1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,580 (upbeat music) 2 00:00:02,580 --> 00:00:05,680 - I'm Scott. 3 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:06,760 - I'm Russell. 4 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:07,600 - And I'm Leo. 5 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:08,440 This is Spitball. 6 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:11,020 (upbeat music) 7 00:00:11,020 --> 00:00:19,200 Welcome to Spitball, the Pitchin' Kitchen, 8 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:21,680 where three Musky Tears, that's us, 9 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:23,320 empty our heads of all of our startup 10 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:25,400 and tech product ideas that we have stuck up in there 11 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:26,960 so you can all have them for free. 12 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:29,520 Anything that we say is yours to keep. 13 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:30,920 All right, guys, I wanna introduce you 14 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,140 to our special guest this week, Anthony. 15 00:00:33,140 --> 00:00:35,720 Anthony is a certified psychiatrist 16 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,420 and hopefully he can help us critique our ideas 17 00:00:38,420 --> 00:00:41,940 and the mental disorders it took to come up with them. 18 00:00:41,940 --> 00:00:42,780 - Welcome to Spitball. 19 00:00:42,780 --> 00:00:45,480 - A couple of the things that you said were true. 20 00:00:45,480 --> 00:00:46,320 - This is gonna be a lot of fun. 21 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:47,140 We're glad you're here. 22 00:00:47,140 --> 00:00:48,080 - Welcome. 23 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:48,920 - All right, guys. 24 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,500 So Russell is on a little bit of an advantage here 25 00:00:51,500 --> 00:00:53,980 because he, like me, is a father, 26 00:00:53,980 --> 00:00:56,680 but today we're gonna be playing Tech or Tots. 27 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,380 So in this one, we're gonna go rapid fire style 28 00:00:59,380 --> 00:01:01,880 and the three of you are going to be guessing 29 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,200 whether or not each name that I'm throwing at you 30 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,260 is a baby product or a baby company 31 00:01:07,260 --> 00:01:09,460 or a tech product or a startup out in Silicon Valley. 32 00:01:09,460 --> 00:01:12,320 All right, starting with our special guest, Anthony. 33 00:01:12,320 --> 00:01:15,720 Hadoop, H-A-D-O-O-P. 34 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:17,520 Is that a baby product or a tech startup? 35 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:19,000 - Tech startup, for sure. 36 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:20,760 - It is, it's an Apache product 37 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,240 for distributing data across large data sets. 38 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,140 Scott, Duna, D-O-O-N-A. 39 00:01:26,140 --> 00:01:27,880 - I'm also gonna go tech startup 40 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:28,720 and I hope it is something with donuts. 41 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:31,280 - They make car seats and strollers, sorry to say. 42 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,240 You're down zero one. 43 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,500 Russell, Kibana, K-I-B-A-N-A. 44 00:01:36,500 --> 00:01:39,580 - Oh, that's a baby, that's a baby one. 45 00:01:39,580 --> 00:01:41,400 - They make data visualization software 46 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:43,960 for tech companies, sorry. 47 00:01:43,960 --> 00:01:45,360 - What, like Kibana? 48 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,000 - Anthony, you're in the lead with a strong first round. 49 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:48,840 Anthony, you're up. 50 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,800 Zutano, Z-U-T-A-N-O. 51 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:55,600 - I gotta go with startup again. 52 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,000 - They make baby booties, sorry. 53 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,120 Scott, M-O-Z-Y. 54 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,080 This better be a baby product. 55 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:04,360 They are an online data backup service. 56 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:05,640 - Oh my God, sorry. 57 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:10,360 - Russell, Cybex, C-Y-B-E-X. 58 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:12,560 - Yo, is that allowed on this show? 59 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,920 That sounds like an adult. 60 00:02:15,920 --> 00:02:18,720 - We're rated T for T now, just for saying it. 61 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,120 - Yeah, that's an adult service site. 62 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,240 - Sorry to say they make car seats and strollers, 63 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:24,520 so they are very G-rated. 64 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,340 - Are like three of these guys doing car seats? 65 00:02:28,180 --> 00:02:29,620 - Cybex. - I found quite a few of them. 66 00:02:29,620 --> 00:02:30,900 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 67 00:02:30,900 --> 00:02:33,020 Anthony is still one, the other guys are nothing. 68 00:02:33,020 --> 00:02:34,420 We've got two more rounds here. 69 00:02:34,420 --> 00:02:38,820 Anthony, Tinkerpop, T-I-N-K-E-R, capital P-O-P. 70 00:02:38,820 --> 00:02:42,140 - I gotta say that that one is for kids. 71 00:02:42,140 --> 00:02:44,100 - That's an Apache language and product 72 00:02:44,100 --> 00:02:47,260 for graph traversal in databases and large data sets. 73 00:02:47,260 --> 00:02:48,960 - They also make car seats though. 74 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:54,280 - Scott, Splunk, S-P-L-U-N-K. 75 00:02:56,100 --> 00:02:57,540 - Tech startup, please. 76 00:02:57,540 --> 00:03:00,440 - Yes, infrastructure security and observability. 77 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,340 They make like insights into your product. 78 00:03:02,340 --> 00:03:03,420 - What is that name of anything? 79 00:03:03,420 --> 00:03:04,260 Okay. 80 00:03:04,260 --> 00:03:06,900 - Splunk, well, you're splunking through your logs, I guess, 81 00:03:06,900 --> 00:03:09,060 and your infrastructure. 82 00:03:09,060 --> 00:03:10,020 - Yeah. 83 00:03:10,020 --> 00:03:13,700 - Russell, we got Grafana, G-R-A-F-A-N-A. 84 00:03:13,700 --> 00:03:15,300 - 100% tech startup. 85 00:03:15,300 --> 00:03:16,220 - You are absolutely right. 86 00:03:16,220 --> 00:03:18,980 That's an open source dashboard product. 87 00:03:18,980 --> 00:03:21,180 That means it's one all and it's our final round. 88 00:03:21,180 --> 00:03:22,500 Very exciting. 89 00:03:22,500 --> 00:03:26,420 Anthony, Juvy, J-O-O-V-Y. 90 00:03:26,420 --> 00:03:27,260 - Huh. 91 00:03:27,260 --> 00:03:30,960 You know, I hope that's a tech startup. 92 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,540 - And they make baby strollers. 93 00:03:33,540 --> 00:03:35,340 (both laughing) 94 00:03:35,340 --> 00:03:38,380 - The only thing your kid needs to be able to do is move. 95 00:03:38,380 --> 00:03:41,100 - That's right. 96 00:03:41,100 --> 00:03:43,660 - As long as they're strapped into something. 97 00:03:43,660 --> 00:03:44,620 - Where's my drink? 98 00:03:44,620 --> 00:03:49,260 Scott, Jupiter, J-U-P-Y-T-E-R. 99 00:03:49,260 --> 00:03:51,540 - Absolutely a kid product. 100 00:03:51,540 --> 00:03:53,940 That is a Python notebook hosted service. 101 00:03:53,940 --> 00:03:56,260 You can write your math online and it'll host it. 102 00:03:56,260 --> 00:04:00,400 And then Russell, the last one, Caddy, C-A-D-D-Y. 103 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,420 - That's a baby stroller. 104 00:04:02,420 --> 00:04:04,260 - That's a web server made in Go. 105 00:04:04,260 --> 00:04:05,820 (both laughing) 106 00:04:05,820 --> 00:04:06,660 - Did we get any of them? 107 00:04:06,660 --> 00:04:07,580 - I've used Caddy before. 108 00:04:07,580 --> 00:04:08,980 You all got one each. 109 00:04:08,980 --> 00:04:09,860 Congratulations. 110 00:04:09,860 --> 00:04:10,780 That seems poetic. 111 00:04:10,780 --> 00:04:12,060 What a great three-way tie. 112 00:04:12,060 --> 00:04:15,020 - Do people call juvenile detention centers Juvy 113 00:04:15,020 --> 00:04:16,460 in your neck of the woods? 114 00:04:16,460 --> 00:04:17,960 Because. 115 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:18,800 - Not J-O-O-V-Y. 116 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,380 - It would be insane to name any kid's product. 117 00:04:21,380 --> 00:04:24,740 - That's an early 2000s Flickr alternative or something. 118 00:04:24,740 --> 00:04:26,500 (both laughing) 119 00:04:26,500 --> 00:04:27,340 And baby strollers. 120 00:04:27,340 --> 00:04:28,300 - Well, you know what? 121 00:04:28,300 --> 00:04:29,980 Maybe since they do make a product 122 00:04:29,980 --> 00:04:31,240 that you strap your child into. 123 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:32,980 So maybe it makes a little more sense than I thought. 124 00:04:32,980 --> 00:04:34,580 (both laughing) 125 00:04:34,580 --> 00:04:36,340 - It's early, early Juvy. 126 00:04:36,340 --> 00:04:38,780 - Restraints for your early delinquents. 127 00:04:38,780 --> 00:04:40,020 - Pre-Juvy. 128 00:04:40,020 --> 00:04:40,860 - Kinder Juvy. 129 00:04:40,860 --> 00:04:41,700 - That's right. 130 00:04:41,700 --> 00:04:42,980 - Kinder Juvy. 131 00:04:42,980 --> 00:04:44,740 - It's pre-Juvy Juvy. 132 00:04:44,740 --> 00:04:47,060 - Oh, that's a data backup language. 133 00:04:47,060 --> 00:04:48,100 - If I'm keeping track, 134 00:04:48,100 --> 00:04:49,940 I think Russell, you're up first this week. 135 00:04:49,940 --> 00:04:51,260 What do you got for us? 136 00:04:51,260 --> 00:04:54,180 - So this idea needs a little bit of setup 137 00:04:54,180 --> 00:04:58,060 because does not sound great on paper. 138 00:04:58,060 --> 00:04:59,740 - How about a podcast? 139 00:04:59,740 --> 00:05:02,300 - As opposed to our usual pitches, huh? 140 00:05:02,300 --> 00:05:05,020 - Yeah, but this one definitely saves lives. 141 00:05:05,020 --> 00:05:07,800 So good luck trying to beat that, boys. 142 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:11,700 Okay, this is a simple startup. 143 00:05:11,700 --> 00:05:14,860 We take the power of the sun 144 00:05:14,860 --> 00:05:19,140 and throw salt via stop signs 145 00:05:19,140 --> 00:05:22,180 in front of the most critical part 146 00:05:22,180 --> 00:05:25,300 of where ice gets in the way, 147 00:05:25,300 --> 00:05:28,580 or where ice causes damage. 148 00:05:28,580 --> 00:05:32,760 So, okay, so let me set that up a little bit better. 149 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:36,060 Basically, it's a machine that throws salt 150 00:05:36,060 --> 00:05:40,760 in front of the stop signs and streetlight places 151 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:45,760 where you need to stop all the time, 24/7, 152 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,460 or maybe less, whenever it rains. 153 00:05:49,420 --> 00:05:50,420 Whenever it snows. 154 00:05:50,420 --> 00:05:51,260 - Don't walk over that. 155 00:05:51,260 --> 00:05:52,620 - Just spitting salt forever. 156 00:05:52,620 --> 00:05:54,980 - Stopping anywhere else is overrated. 157 00:05:54,980 --> 00:05:57,460 - Yeah, you have a prize, you wanna get some salt, 158 00:05:57,460 --> 00:05:59,580 you just go to your stop sign. 159 00:05:59,580 --> 00:06:03,100 So why that is, is 'cause I see a lot of, 160 00:06:03,100 --> 00:06:04,940 and I know this episode's gonna be released 161 00:06:04,940 --> 00:06:06,880 during the winter time, I'm sure, 162 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:12,420 but what is it, whenever those things, 163 00:06:12,420 --> 00:06:14,900 those trucks that move, the trucks. 164 00:06:14,900 --> 00:06:15,740 - Salt trucks. 165 00:06:15,740 --> 00:06:17,860 - The salt trucks. - Salt trucks. 166 00:06:17,860 --> 00:06:18,700 - Yeah. 167 00:06:18,700 --> 00:06:20,300 - I feel like they add a little extra salt 168 00:06:20,300 --> 00:06:22,860 at the stop signs, or they're just stopping 169 00:06:22,860 --> 00:06:26,740 at the stop signs, because, but it's also like-- 170 00:06:26,740 --> 00:06:27,780 - I've never thought of that. 171 00:06:27,780 --> 00:06:29,140 I thought for sure that was on purpose. 172 00:06:29,140 --> 00:06:30,780 You're probably right, they're just going, 173 00:06:30,780 --> 00:06:32,260 and they sit at a stop sign, shoot. 174 00:06:32,260 --> 00:06:35,700 - But I mean, right, they should stop a little extra there, 175 00:06:35,700 --> 00:06:40,340 'cause when you're sliding, at least you catch your edge 176 00:06:40,340 --> 00:06:42,020 right at the stop sign. 177 00:06:42,020 --> 00:06:46,120 Why not install to, right away, 178 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:49,500 every stop sign has a, you put a bag of salt, 179 00:06:49,500 --> 00:06:52,720 a little throwing machine, and a solar panel, 180 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,380 and now every stop sign and/or street light 181 00:06:55,380 --> 00:07:00,380 becomes instant snow network, save lives. 182 00:07:00,380 --> 00:07:04,140 That's it, that's the company. 183 00:07:04,140 --> 00:07:05,860 Salt saves lives. 184 00:07:05,860 --> 00:07:08,900 - All right, so you're powering these with solar. 185 00:07:08,900 --> 00:07:13,900 I don't wanna no-but you, but the days where it's snowing-- 186 00:07:15,700 --> 00:07:17,600 - That's a good question. 187 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,200 - Are those the days where you wouldn't have-- 188 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,040 - It's almost like you live in the Midwest. 189 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:22,880 - You could use salt and water too. 190 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,320 - It's always cloudy in the winter, and terrible. 191 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,960 - Can't you make a battery out of salt and water? 192 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:29,920 - Isn't that a thing? 193 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:31,560 - Throw a potato in there and you got it. 194 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:32,400 - Checkmate. 195 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,760 - Next, potatoes. 196 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:37,360 - Potato powered, that's it. 197 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,560 - Maybe you could put some of your gamer vitamins in it 198 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:41,480 for electrolytes. 199 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:43,840 - It's what the plants need. 200 00:07:44,340 --> 00:07:45,820 (laughing) 201 00:07:45,820 --> 00:07:46,980 - Full circle. 202 00:07:46,980 --> 00:07:48,380 - It's what plants crave. 203 00:07:48,380 --> 00:07:52,260 So tell me about how you plan on not throwing salt 204 00:07:52,260 --> 00:07:53,300 in the eyes of children 205 00:07:53,300 --> 00:07:54,860 before walking through the intersection. 206 00:07:54,860 --> 00:07:58,520 - You see, that's where I need your help here, all right? 207 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:00,220 We gotta figure out how to pitch. 208 00:08:00,220 --> 00:08:02,660 Maybe you create like, but then there's also the problem 209 00:08:02,660 --> 00:08:05,660 of if there are cars in the intersection, 210 00:08:05,660 --> 00:08:08,020 when do you throw the salt? 211 00:08:08,020 --> 00:08:10,540 I feel like you could do some detection or some motion, 212 00:08:10,540 --> 00:08:12,100 you get one of those motion things. 213 00:08:12,100 --> 00:08:14,800 - We could figure that one out, a millimeter wave thing 214 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:16,080 out of there or something that detects 215 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:16,920 if there's no one in there. 216 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:20,120 - You can buy a $20 home motion sensor on a thing, 217 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:23,320 you just wait no motion for like five minutes 218 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:25,120 and then you just chuck a bunch of salt. 219 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,760 - And then just explode into salt, got it. 220 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:29,160 - Yep, salt. 221 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:30,960 - So is this like a device that you attach 222 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,720 onto a stop sign, like it clicks on 223 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:35,200 and just point it towards the road 224 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:36,560 and it just starts spewing? 225 00:08:36,560 --> 00:08:39,820 - Yeah, and also there's a bag of salt, 226 00:08:39,820 --> 00:08:43,960 I think attached to it, like a hopper, right? 227 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,320 And you just boom. 228 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:47,960 - So we need a system to refill these. 229 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,600 So, okay, Uber for stop signs, you can hire people 230 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,200 to go over and refill bags of salt 231 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:56,160 on your local stop sign or intersection. 232 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,760 - Yeah, and I wonder how much salt you need in a year 233 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,780 to cover a stop sign, little square footage, right? 234 00:09:01,780 --> 00:09:03,760 Like, is it just 50 pounds? 235 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:05,000 I don't know. 236 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:06,280 - It could be the stop sign itself, 237 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:07,480 like really, really thick. 238 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,200 You only need to see it from one side, right? 239 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,800 So just make it like as deep as it is wide. 240 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:15,280 It's a big old hopper, battery and thrower arm. 241 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:18,320 - You're saying replace the stop sign itself and just-- 242 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:23,320 - With a stop sign shaped salt basket box thing, yeah. 243 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:24,440 - Sure. 244 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:25,720 - It's a hexagon but deep. 245 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:27,560 - This is the multi-billion dollar company. 246 00:09:27,560 --> 00:09:28,720 - Octagon, are they octagons? 247 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:30,160 Oh, that's embarrassing. 248 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:31,120 I think they're octagons. 249 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,640 - Smart stop sign, wait, no they're, oh, shit. 250 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:37,660 Guys, like this is our entry into the marketplace. 251 00:09:37,660 --> 00:09:41,640 We start by selling salt throwing stop signs 252 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,060 and then we become the number one distributor 253 00:09:44,060 --> 00:09:45,840 of all things signs. 254 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,200 - Smart signs. 255 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,400 - I thought you were gonna say all things salt. 256 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:52,880 - They have salty signs. 257 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:53,720 That'll be our, there it is. 258 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,440 - The salt market can't be that saturated, right? 259 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:57,920 - I can't think of a more niche market. 260 00:09:57,920 --> 00:09:58,760 - It's all a bunch of like 261 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:00,660 Department of Transportation government, 262 00:10:00,660 --> 00:10:02,600 like state government people, right? 263 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:04,200 There's probably some room for disruption. 264 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:05,040 - So that's the marketing strategy. 265 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:06,720 - Well, like you said, you need someone 266 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:08,540 to replace the salt in these things, right? 267 00:10:08,540 --> 00:10:10,260 So if we're selling the device, 268 00:10:10,260 --> 00:10:12,100 we might as well be selling the replacement, right? 269 00:10:12,100 --> 00:10:14,460 The less work on the end of our customer. 270 00:10:14,460 --> 00:10:17,220 - I like Scott's distributed Uber idea 271 00:10:17,220 --> 00:10:18,580 where like you just hire, 272 00:10:18,580 --> 00:10:21,920 you encourage people in the local community 273 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,940 to go to their own Ace Hardware, buy a bag, 274 00:10:24,940 --> 00:10:26,940 put it in their local on the end of their street 275 00:10:26,940 --> 00:10:29,540 and charge them like five bucks more 276 00:10:29,540 --> 00:10:30,780 than whatever it cost them. 277 00:10:30,780 --> 00:10:32,340 - Yeah, honestly. 278 00:10:32,340 --> 00:10:33,180 - People can make a little extra cash. 279 00:10:33,180 --> 00:10:34,580 - Yeah, people would do that. 280 00:10:35,620 --> 00:10:37,600 The problem is it's gonna be hard to tell 281 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:38,440 what they're putting in it. 282 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:39,840 They could just be dumping in gravel 283 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,360 or like taking a shit inside the thing. 284 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:43,480 No one would know. 285 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:44,760 - Yeah, that's true. 286 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:45,980 If people are willing to go around 287 00:10:45,980 --> 00:10:50,480 and charge bird and lime scooters for pennies, right? 288 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:51,480 - They put salt in. 289 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,160 - Yeah. 290 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:54,880 - As I'm sure Russell is completely unaware, 291 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:58,560 stop signs are a natural target for juvenile delinquents. 292 00:10:58,560 --> 00:11:00,580 - It's that Juvie startup, isn't it? 293 00:11:00,580 --> 00:11:02,360 (laughing) 294 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:04,320 Damn Juvie startup. 295 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,500 - Well, that is true. 296 00:11:06,500 --> 00:11:09,580 So we gotta make a smart sign that's also like, 297 00:11:09,580 --> 00:11:12,020 shoot salt at kids. 298 00:11:12,020 --> 00:11:14,860 - Yes, it's self-defense. 299 00:11:14,860 --> 00:11:16,380 Turn a bug into a feature. 300 00:11:16,380 --> 00:11:17,600 - Yeah, that's it. 301 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:18,740 - If it gets spray painted. 302 00:11:18,740 --> 00:11:20,380 - Child repellent stop signs. 303 00:11:20,380 --> 00:11:22,980 - Yeah, have you seen those guns 304 00:11:22,980 --> 00:11:25,620 that you can spray like bugs, flies with? 305 00:11:25,620 --> 00:11:27,380 - Oh, the Schultz shotguns. 306 00:11:27,380 --> 00:11:30,380 - Yeah, excuse me, you wanna run that again? 307 00:11:30,380 --> 00:11:33,740 - The Schultz shotguns. 308 00:11:33,740 --> 00:11:36,760 - Yeah, you just have that built in. 309 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:38,040 I think that uses table salt. 310 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:38,880 There's probably some, 311 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:42,080 I don't think you can just chuck the like coarse pebbles 312 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:43,520 at kids. 313 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:45,440 - I mean, yeah, you'd have to grind it up a little bit 314 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:46,880 before you throw it at the children. 315 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:47,840 - A little bit. 316 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:49,480 - But I think you could hire the same. 317 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:50,880 (laughing) 318 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:52,400 - Table salt only. 319 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,800 - You gotta, it's just the ethical thing to do. 320 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:56,800 - So you take the, 321 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,200 so you know the people that like change the garbage cans 322 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,120 throughout the winter time, throughout the city? 323 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:03,840 - I think you just get those same people 324 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:05,000 to fill those salt bags. 325 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:06,680 You already have the workforce. 326 00:12:06,680 --> 00:12:08,200 - Oh, I've got it. 327 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:09,280 - I hear, I'm ready. 328 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:12,760 - You know, the mid air refueling of a jet? 329 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,240 You've got that sort of thing dangling off the back, 330 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:17,040 but it's the salt trucks. - From the salt trucks. 331 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,400 - Yes, they go around when they're sitting in the stop sign, 332 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:20,600 they have a little hopper, 333 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:22,120 they just sort of pour off the side 334 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,240 into the hopper for a minute and boom. 335 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:25,880 Now that's set for another week. 336 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:27,560 - Because the place we need more congestion 337 00:12:27,560 --> 00:12:29,040 is at the stop sign. 338 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,880 (laughing) 339 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:32,720 - That's true. 340 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:36,200 - You know how many Apache helicopters sit around all day, 341 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,480 not filling up bags of salt? 342 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:39,720 - So true. 343 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,700 - It's a waste of taxpayer money, honestly. 344 00:12:42,700 --> 00:12:44,520 - Yeah, you take the same helicopters 345 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:48,000 that drop a bunch of water at like flaming forests. 346 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:49,800 - Yeah, and give them a purpose. 347 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:51,760 - To fill salt bags. 348 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:52,600 - I've always said, 349 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:54,400 what are all those helicopters even doing? 350 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:55,880 - Yeah. 351 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,320 - Okay, so what if instead of like a conveyor belt system 352 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:00,040 that you gotta sit at the stop sign and wait for, 353 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,920 if it had like a claw bucket thing, 354 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:04,400 but you've got that filled with salt 355 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:07,560 and as it drives by, it just releases and then retracts 356 00:13:07,560 --> 00:13:09,560 and it's just a quick moment, right? 357 00:13:09,560 --> 00:13:11,840 They've got a hopper up top. 358 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,320 - Right, and you only need to do this like once a, 359 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,180 what, once every couple hours? 360 00:13:16,180 --> 00:13:19,480 Whatever the salt to snow ratio is, you just, 361 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:20,920 I mean, you can't have somebody 362 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,360 occupying a stop sign all day. 363 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:24,960 (laughing) 364 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,020 Or a bunch of cars, maybe. 365 00:13:27,020 --> 00:13:28,680 I'm no civic engineer. 366 00:13:28,680 --> 00:13:30,680 - Never driven through Florida, have you? 367 00:13:30,680 --> 00:13:31,680 (laughing) 368 00:13:31,680 --> 00:13:33,040 - That's true. 369 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,920 - Well, thank you for your contribution to public safety. 370 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,500 (upbeat music) 371 00:13:38,500 --> 00:13:43,480 - All right, Leo, let's hear what you got this week. 372 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:47,280 - All right, so back, I don't even know how many years ago, 373 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:50,520 early days of Reddit, like late 2000s, early 2010s, 374 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:54,080 there was a wonderful little niche website 375 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:57,600 and it was a bunch of nefarious, not nefarious, 376 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:58,440 what's the word I'm looking for? 377 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:03,440 Mischievous server admins who had built a phone line 378 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:08,160 in their company's phone tree system 379 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:11,500 where they could transfer callers to this number. 380 00:14:11,500 --> 00:14:13,440 And that phone extension was a robot 381 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,460 and it would pick up and it would play a recording. 382 00:14:16,460 --> 00:14:18,840 And it was a recording of an old man saying, 383 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:20,720 "Hello, this is Lenny." 384 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:25,040 And they had recorded a bunch of sound clips of this guy, 385 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:28,380 this old man, just answering with non-answers, 386 00:14:28,380 --> 00:14:30,800 like, "Say some more about that. 387 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:32,100 I think I've heard about that." 388 00:14:32,100 --> 00:14:34,640 Or, "Someone called last week. 389 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:35,920 Could you tell me more about that? 390 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:37,640 I think that might've been you." 391 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:41,720 And it was just these, keep them talking clips. 392 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:46,060 And all that the robot did was wait for silence on the line 393 00:14:46,060 --> 00:14:47,440 and play a random clip. 394 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:49,640 So after it said, "Hello, this is Lenny," 395 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:51,520 they just waited for the person to stop talking 396 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,040 and then they would prompt them to continue talking. 397 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:57,960 And it was to transfer scam calls or annoying spam 398 00:14:57,960 --> 00:14:59,300 that you didn't wanna deal with. 399 00:14:59,300 --> 00:15:00,640 So someone would call them and say, 400 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:02,840 "Hi, I'd like to sell you my white paper." 401 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:03,980 And the company would say, 402 00:15:03,980 --> 00:15:05,480 "Oh yeah, you wanna talk to Lenny?" 403 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:06,660 And then they would transfer it to Lenny 404 00:15:06,660 --> 00:15:08,000 and they would record the call. 405 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,120 And the subreddit was just filled 406 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,760 with these angry telemarketers and scammers 407 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:14,940 and stuff getting increasingly frustrated 408 00:15:14,940 --> 00:15:16,760 as they talked to Lenny. 409 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,440 I've always admired this idea. 410 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:20,600 It went away a few years ago. 411 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:23,680 I don't think it's around anymore, but the idea has died. 412 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:25,960 - I think Comcast bought that, if you ever called them. 413 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:27,840 - Now that's how they run their customer service, 414 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:28,680 I think, yeah. 415 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:31,840 I just don't wanna see it die. 416 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,840 And I think it deserves to be revived in a consumer product. 417 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,740 So I would pay to have an app on my phone 418 00:15:37,740 --> 00:15:39,640 or to have a hardware appliance 419 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:41,600 that I could plug into a phone line at my office 420 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:43,540 that does essentially this. 421 00:15:43,540 --> 00:15:45,440 I think with the era of social media 422 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:49,920 and algorithmic feeds and stuff becoming, 423 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,280 this is ripe for TikTok content. 424 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:54,440 This is ripe for automatically posting to YouTube 425 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:56,200 in a way that it was sort of like Kludgy. 426 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:57,840 You'd have to go to their old website before 427 00:15:57,840 --> 00:15:59,560 and like stream MP3s. 428 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:01,040 And it was a little bit clunky. 429 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:02,680 I think you could totally turn this 430 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,800 into like a commoditized business. 431 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,680 You could have large language models generating the scripts 432 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:10,600 based off of the keywords that they're saying. 433 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:12,860 You could have really convincing text to speech 434 00:16:12,860 --> 00:16:15,560 done on the fly so it didn't have to be prerecorded. 435 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:17,480 There's all kinds of stuff that has improved 436 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:18,520 in the last 10 years 437 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,000 that could really make this next level. 438 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:24,520 - What an incredible way to combat spam calls too. 439 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:26,380 Like you were saying, you have an app on your phone 440 00:16:26,380 --> 00:16:28,820 that you just, whenever you're in a phone call, 441 00:16:28,820 --> 00:16:31,640 there's just always a button that you can transfer to Lenny 442 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:33,880 or it'll just answer, "Is Lenny to start?" 443 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,160 And then if they can get past Lenny, 444 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:38,600 then you can answer, "Oh, that's probably a bad one actually." 445 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:40,480 (laughs) 446 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:41,600 - This is amazing. 447 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,040 I think this is like the most, 448 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,520 I can't wait for a spam call kind of thing 449 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:48,960 where you're excited to get a spam call 450 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,080 so I can transfer them. 451 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:51,920 - Yes! 452 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:53,960 - I'm like, "Oh my gosh, I can't wait." 453 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:55,800 So you could even gamify it 454 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,880 and have like the app have leaderboards 455 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:00,920 with how long you kept someone on the line 456 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,200 or how many calls you got this week, right? 457 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,160 - Dude, this is a free service too 458 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:06,560 'cause you just generate content. 459 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:09,840 Like if you're providing the call screening or whatever, 460 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:11,480 you just generate all that content, 461 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:15,120 make so much money off of like spam callers 462 00:17:15,120 --> 00:17:17,760 and you change, you get like five or six voice models 463 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:19,960 so people, when it becomes popular, 464 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,520 because it's definitely 100% amazing, 465 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:25,240 you have to change the voices, right? 466 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,960 So it's like totally doable. 467 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:28,880 - I'll do you one better too. 468 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:31,080 Instead of doing an app thing, okay? 469 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:31,960 You get a phone number, 470 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:34,920 you just put the contact in your phone 471 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:36,120 and you just tell the telemarketer, 472 00:17:36,120 --> 00:17:37,720 "Hey, give me one second. 473 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:42,360 "I get my boss or somebody else on the line." 474 00:17:42,360 --> 00:17:46,080 You call the other number, merge the calls, leave, boom. 475 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:46,920 - Sure. 476 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:47,760 (laughs) 477 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:49,440 - That's it, you just do the merge call 478 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:51,880 and then you can listen in while it's happening 479 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,240 or just let it ride. 480 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:55,240 - Just go about your day. 481 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:56,800 - Yeah. 482 00:17:56,800 --> 00:18:00,160 - Well, I like the idea of shortening the process somehow. 483 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:01,880 I like just being able to click a button 484 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:02,880 on this app or something 485 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:06,880 because the thing that you're providing to people with this 486 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:07,920 is joy, right? 487 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,280 Schadenfreude of someone else's suffering. 488 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:12,160 It doesn't mean you're getting less spam calls. 489 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,520 I would not use this if I had to pick up and say, 490 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:16,400 "Let me transfer you to Lenny every single time." 491 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,220 I would absolutely click a button 492 00:18:18,220 --> 00:18:19,620 knowing that the person on the other end 493 00:18:19,620 --> 00:18:21,720 is going to experience some amount of suffering. 494 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,160 (laughs) 495 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:25,720 - Honestly though, that's the best way 496 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:27,160 you're supposed to deal with spam calls. 497 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:28,840 Like outside of just not answering, 498 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:30,200 you can just waste their time. 499 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:31,960 The more time you waste to them, 500 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:33,080 the better it is for everyone. 501 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:33,960 - You're a hero. 502 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,480 Every time you use the app, you're a hero. 503 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:37,320 You are. 504 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:40,060 - That's how we would phrase the leaderboard, right? 505 00:18:40,060 --> 00:18:43,280 This is how much time you saved someone else 506 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,200 of having to talk to a telemarketer. 507 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:46,040 - 100%. 508 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:47,120 - I love the idea of a leaderboard, by the way. 509 00:18:47,120 --> 00:18:48,720 - It's like the Kit Boga effect, 510 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:50,320 but you're making a million Kit Bogas. 511 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:53,560 The streamer who keeps and wastes spam callers 512 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:55,080 and scammers' time. 513 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:58,360 Yeah, you're making hundreds of them, an army of them. 514 00:18:58,360 --> 00:18:59,200 Yeah. 515 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:00,020 - Amazing concept. 516 00:19:00,020 --> 00:19:01,640 - If we launched this during the, 517 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:05,000 what was it, like, "Waste His Time 2020" or whatever. 518 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:06,160 - What's that? 519 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:07,640 - I don't know that one. 520 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:10,840 - Just about girls wasting annoying guys' time. 521 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:11,680 It doesn't matter. 522 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:13,000 (laughs) 523 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:13,840 - Oh, it's like a hashtag trend. 524 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:15,480 - Are you in the middle of this, Anthony? 525 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,560 Are you like in the middle of being hashtags right now? 526 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:19,400 - Right. 527 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,320 - No comment. 528 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,440 (laughs) 529 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,400 - That was a big swig there, Anthony. 530 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:26,320 - So you're worried about, 531 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,600 "Oh, we could combine this with the rejection hotline." 532 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:30,040 You remember that back in the day? 533 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:31,640 There was a phone number you could memorize 534 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:33,040 and you'd give it out at a bar 535 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:34,800 if you didn't want someone to have your actual number 536 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:36,600 and say, "Hi, you've reached the rejection hotline. 537 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:38,160 "The person you gave you this number, 538 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:39,000 "they don't want to add their number." 539 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:39,840 - Totally rejects you. 540 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:40,660 - Yeah, exactly. 541 00:19:40,660 --> 00:19:42,600 So we have that, but interactive, real-time, 542 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,120 large-language model powered with AI. 543 00:19:45,120 --> 00:19:46,400 (laughs) 544 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,680 - This is the definition of chaotic good. 545 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:50,520 - I love it. 546 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:52,760 - You know, you could just put this number 547 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:54,520 on a bunch of different, 548 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:56,360 like you just Google free iPad. 549 00:19:56,360 --> 00:19:59,240 And you just, you know, if you ever Googled free iPad. 550 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,760 So back in my day, when I didn't like somebody, 551 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,200 I would go and search free iPad 552 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,440 and type in, fill out the form for this person 553 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,160 so their email would just be bombarded with spam 554 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:09,980 for the rest of their life. 555 00:20:09,980 --> 00:20:11,920 Like it's unavoidable at that point. 556 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:12,840 (laughs) 557 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:13,680 You just do that with this phone number 558 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:14,500 and it's chaotic evil. - What could someone 559 00:20:14,500 --> 00:20:16,160 have done to you that deserves 560 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,240 that unbalanced response? 561 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:22,520 - Well, honestly, a little bit of mild... 562 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:23,840 (laughs) 563 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:25,320 It takes-- - Mild annoyance. 564 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:26,160 - A mild annoyance, yeah. 565 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,480 It honestly takes you like 30 seconds to Google it 566 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:29,760 and then typing the email 567 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:31,640 and ruin somebody's email forever. 568 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:33,000 - For the rest of their-- - Any truck that has a, 569 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:34,080 "How's my driving?" 570 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,360 Russell has entered that number into it. 571 00:20:36,360 --> 00:20:37,480 - For a good time call. 572 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,620 - That's another idea. 573 00:20:40,620 --> 00:20:41,680 We can just do that. 574 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,020 Free iPads. 575 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,280 - We're already almost to this Lenny idea 576 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:51,180 with Google Assistant's latest thing, Built into Pixels, 577 00:20:51,180 --> 00:20:52,640 where you can have it answer for you. 578 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,800 And it seems like they're right on the... 579 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:55,900 If we could somehow hijack 580 00:20:55,900 --> 00:20:59,560 that existing phone interception transcription system 581 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,960 to expand it from the few pre-programmed phrases 582 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,320 to something this big, man, 583 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,720 we're like 95% of the way there, right? 584 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:09,960 - Google knows too. 585 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:13,760 Every time it'll say, "90% chance of spam call incoming. 586 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:15,080 "We do not recognize this number. 587 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:16,840 "We've known this has been spam before." 588 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,400 Just any time, any chance of that comes in, 589 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:20,240 send it to Lenny. 590 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:21,200 - I have someone in my life 591 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,600 who is a vulnerable population to be scammed 592 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,640 and they lost a ton of money to scammers 593 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:28,600 about six months ago. 594 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:29,520 And it was heartbreaking. 595 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:33,980 And I just, I think this is the perfect chaotic good, 596 00:21:33,980 --> 00:21:37,000 like you said, a way to fight back against the industry 597 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,680 and make it not worth their time as much anymore. 598 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:43,520 - Especially if you get that grassroots movement 599 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,240 where just I would contribute my phone 600 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,040 to receive calls to that in order to spam other people. 601 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,620 And if enough people started doing that, 602 00:21:51,620 --> 00:21:53,120 it would just waste enough time 603 00:21:53,120 --> 00:21:54,960 that maybe the spam calls aren't worth it anymore. 604 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:56,080 - That's the dream. 605 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:56,920 - That's the dream. 606 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:57,740 - The fun part about Lenny 607 00:21:57,740 --> 00:21:59,920 was that it was a really old sounding guy 608 00:21:59,920 --> 00:22:01,080 who was clueless, right? 609 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,840 So the people on the other end would take their time 610 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,080 and repeat stuff and all that. 611 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:09,080 You could totally leverage that to be like, 612 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,280 all of the voices that you have are old 613 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:15,080 and sound like vulnerable in their program to say, 614 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:16,440 "Yeah, I could buy gift cards." 615 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:17,280 And things like that, 616 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,480 that really keep them on the line and waste their time. 617 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,160 And we can make it a game. 618 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,640 - What if you created like this 619 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:30,480 to give to those people with grandparents 620 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,640 and say, "Hey, if you ever get a spam call," 621 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,480 not a spam call, they don't know, right? 622 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:38,160 It's just like, "If ever Microsoft calls you or whatever, 623 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,440 send them to my friend Lenny." 624 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,680 My friend Lenny, here's his number. 625 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:46,360 You just say, "Call this guy." 626 00:22:46,360 --> 00:22:50,420 And now they're redirecting all those calls too, right? 627 00:22:50,420 --> 00:22:51,320 Literally. 628 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,640 - Said, "Press the big red button, grandma." 629 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:57,560 - I mean, you could even do it without a button press 630 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:58,880 like Scott was saying. 631 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:02,060 Google is fairly okay at detecting these sorts of things. 632 00:23:02,060 --> 00:23:04,080 Now, if you said to your grandparent or whatever, 633 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:05,480 "Hey, let me have your phone for a second. 634 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:06,680 I can just download something 635 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:08,760 and you'll never get a spam call again in your life," right? 636 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,280 And they didn't have to even interact with it in any way. 637 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:12,120 And that could be their experience. 638 00:23:12,120 --> 00:23:14,080 - Like a good grandson. - That sounds awesome. 639 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,320 We get a game on entertainment out of it. 640 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:17,360 They get protected. 641 00:23:17,360 --> 00:23:20,140 Yeah, sort of like how Google has those advanced protections 642 00:23:20,140 --> 00:23:21,480 that you can turn on if you're a celebrity 643 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:22,800 or a journalist or whatever. 644 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:24,560 It'll force you to have MFA 645 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,380 and really strict requirements for how to log in and stuff. 646 00:23:27,380 --> 00:23:30,840 You can optionally enable, like, "I feel more at risk. 647 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,680 Like people are going to try to do phishing attacks 648 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:33,740 at me more." 649 00:23:33,740 --> 00:23:36,240 You do that, but for the vulnerable people in your life 650 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,280 where you say, "Hey, I'm pretty sure this person's 651 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,440 not going to need to talk to random salesmen and stuff. 652 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,020 They only really call these five numbers. 653 00:23:44,020 --> 00:23:45,620 Anyone else who's not in their contacts 654 00:23:45,620 --> 00:23:47,700 or anyone else who's a new number to them or whatever, 655 00:23:47,700 --> 00:23:50,380 just automatically send it this way." 656 00:23:50,380 --> 00:23:52,660 And then they don't understand why they never heard back 657 00:23:52,660 --> 00:23:57,000 from the landscaper that they called. (laughs) 658 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,840 - Yeah, it just seems like this needs to, like, wow. 659 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:03,640 We need to have something that stops this spam call thing. 660 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,240 At least for the vulnerable population, 661 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,160 I think there's enough people out here that, like, get it. 662 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,280 They know when a spam call is coming. 663 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,120 I'd never answer a call, basically, 664 00:24:12,120 --> 00:24:14,340 if it's not on my contact list, right? 665 00:24:14,340 --> 00:24:15,640 So it's- 666 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:16,640 - Even if it is. (laughs) 667 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,520 - Well, yeah, I'd let it go to voicemail. 668 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,000 And if they leave a voicemail, you know, 669 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,500 everybody's got their own process to, like, vet a spammer. 670 00:24:23,500 --> 00:24:25,760 - If it's really urgent, I'll text them back tomorrow. 671 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:27,440 (both laugh) 672 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,880 - Yeah, or, like, you just send them a text message 673 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:31,880 and it's, "Oh, this is a landline number." 674 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:33,320 Well, you're full of shit, right? 675 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,000 Just goodbye. (laughs) 676 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:35,840 - Right. 677 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,920 - So, no one has landlines. 678 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,800 Dude, I just think the leaderboards are, like, 679 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,960 there's gotta be, like, the best content. 680 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:48,700 Maybe there's a way to get the community to vet 681 00:24:48,700 --> 00:24:49,960 and listen to all these calls, 682 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,000 'cause you're gonna have so many calls. 683 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:56,200 Like, how do you vet the content? 684 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,120 - Really, I think you're supposed to inform someone 685 00:24:59,120 --> 00:25:00,960 if they're being recorded on a phone line, 686 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:01,800 but we can work around that. 687 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:03,400 - It depends on the state, actually. 688 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,160 Some states are two-party consent, 689 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,080 where both have to say they agree to be recorded, 690 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,040 and some, I believe, like Michigan, 691 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,720 are one party has to consent. 692 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:15,240 - So, can we transfer to, like, a Michigan phone number 693 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,600 or, like, a Nevada one or something? 694 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,000 Is there an equivalent of VPNing yourself 695 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,720 into another state so it's legal to record it? 696 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:23,560 - That's interesting. 697 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,200 - 'Cause you're the one who merged the calls, quote-unquote. 698 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:27,040 Lenny lives in Nevada. - The data center's 699 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:28,620 over in Detroit, yeah, right. 700 00:25:28,620 --> 00:25:30,640 - Well, who's doing the recording, right? 701 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:31,840 If it's our company doing the recording, 702 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,960 maybe if we're just headquartered somewhere, right? 703 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,640 It's not the person with the phone 704 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:37,720 who's doing the recording, right? 705 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,680 This is an automated app. - Right, right. 706 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,280 The data center's in Guam. (laughs) 707 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:43,120 It's fine. 708 00:25:43,120 --> 00:25:45,800 - With all this AI power, like, 709 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,560 Lenny could be your, like, buffer. 710 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,200 If Lenny detects, like, wait, 711 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,000 this might actually be an important call, 712 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,100 I'm gonna transfer you to the person. 713 00:25:54,100 --> 00:25:57,120 - Totally. - Oh, yeah. 714 00:25:57,120 --> 00:25:58,760 - I mean, that's kinda how the Google one works, right? 715 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,580 - It's exactly how it is, except it's just a harder boss 716 00:26:01,580 --> 00:26:03,120 you gotta get through now. 717 00:26:03,120 --> 00:26:04,200 His name is Lenny. 718 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:05,320 - Can you imagine meeting somebody and be like, 719 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,120 hey, if Lenny picks up my phone, 720 00:26:07,120 --> 00:26:09,680 just say operator, like, five times. 721 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:10,520 (laughs) 722 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:11,340 It'll come to me. 723 00:26:11,340 --> 00:26:12,720 Say this passkey. 724 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,000 - Yeah, right. 725 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,640 Tango, alpha, bravo, yeah. 726 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:21,680 Well, big ups to the guys who invented Lenny. 727 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,320 We'll put their information in the show notes 728 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,400 if you'd like to hear more Lenny calls 729 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:26,240 from back in the day. 730 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:27,080 It was a good time. 731 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,580 (upbeat electronic music) 732 00:26:31,580 --> 00:26:33,920 All right, Scott, what do you got for us this week? 733 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:35,400 - So I was walking my dog the other day 734 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,860 and I ran into a guy with a metal detector. 735 00:26:38,860 --> 00:26:40,440 And I've always been fascinated by them, 736 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,640 but I really don't know anything about metal detecting 737 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,980 as a hobby or hardware. 738 00:26:44,980 --> 00:26:46,560 And the more I was talking to him, 739 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,080 the more I was thinking, like, this is a lot of work, 740 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,960 him just walking around looking for random things 741 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,160 and covering all the ground he covers 742 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,220 he has to physically walk, right? 743 00:26:56,220 --> 00:26:59,520 Can we combine a metal detector and a drone? 744 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,400 I'm gonna take the base part of metal detector, 745 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,640 there's a bunch of simple hardware for that, 746 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,800 put enough power into that guy, 747 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,240 put it on a drone with a pre-conditioned GPS grid on it, 748 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,200 bring it to a beach or a field or something 749 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:12,680 and just let it go. 750 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,280 It goes in a grid pattern throughout the field 751 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:16,880 and then comes back to you with like, 752 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,840 I found something potential here, here, here, and here, 753 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:21,680 go take a look. 754 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,440 Or maybe it'll circle back on those spots 755 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,720 and get a clearer picture on it. 756 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,140 The technology's all there for all of these parts. 757 00:27:29,140 --> 00:27:31,560 It's all, there's so many open source things 758 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,800 for autonomous flying drones and pathing, 759 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,200 metal detectors, you can get them tiny nowadays 760 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:38,880 after talking to this guy, 761 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,560 it would not be hard to get something 762 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,320 that a drone could lift and go through. 763 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,600 That is a pitch, it is just literally 764 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,680 gluing two pieces of hardware together and then some code. 765 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:49,720 - Totally. 766 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,000 Does it have to be a flying drone? 767 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,080 I mean, why can't it be like an RC car? 768 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:54,480 - I think it's cooler flying. 769 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,140 (laughing) 770 00:27:56,140 --> 00:27:57,800 - I like 10 minutes of battery life. 771 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,020 - I was gonna say, you're gonna Roomba the beach. 772 00:28:01,020 --> 00:28:01,940 - Roomba the beach! 773 00:28:01,940 --> 00:28:02,780 - Yes. 774 00:28:02,780 --> 00:28:05,280 - It's like, sell this idea to iRobot, yeah. 775 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:09,380 - Honestly though, a ground one is a pretty good idea. 776 00:28:09,380 --> 00:28:11,940 - It's already having to drag on the ground, right? 777 00:28:11,940 --> 00:28:14,340 - Yeah, it's gotta be, that's the problem he was saying, 778 00:28:14,340 --> 00:28:16,380 it's gotta be as close to the ground as possible 779 00:28:16,380 --> 00:28:18,380 so you'd have to have some kind of object detection 780 00:28:18,380 --> 00:28:19,300 if you're flying. 781 00:28:19,300 --> 00:28:21,500 - You heard him tell you, 782 00:28:21,500 --> 00:28:23,260 it has to be as close to the ground as possible 783 00:28:23,260 --> 00:28:25,620 and thought, yes, let's make it fly. 784 00:28:25,620 --> 00:28:27,340 - Let's make it fly. 785 00:28:27,340 --> 00:28:30,220 - Well, okay, I'm just picturing on beaches mostly, 786 00:28:30,220 --> 00:28:33,860 like you have essentially level terrain. 787 00:28:33,860 --> 00:28:38,860 - Dude, yeah, you attach like 10 and you drag it behind, 788 00:28:38,860 --> 00:28:41,640 I don't know, like a pull mower and just drags across 789 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,940 and every time it beeps, you drop a smoke bomb or something 790 00:28:44,940 --> 00:28:49,940 and it just, it goes off and you have your fleet of people. 791 00:28:49,940 --> 00:28:50,860 - I kinda like that. 792 00:28:50,860 --> 00:28:51,680 - All right. 793 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,820 - This smoke bomb, it drops a little marker or something. 794 00:28:54,820 --> 00:28:56,500 - Yeah, the orange posts. 795 00:28:56,500 --> 00:28:59,420 - Honestly, the easy thing would probably just be a tablet 796 00:28:59,420 --> 00:29:01,460 and it just pings like, hey, in this location, 797 00:29:01,460 --> 00:29:04,940 here's the Google map of it, super zoomed in 798 00:29:04,940 --> 00:29:06,920 and then you come back with a real metal detector, 799 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,080 but it's just saving you time from covering all this ground. 800 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,660 You could, hell, you could do Minesweeper with this. 801 00:29:12,660 --> 00:29:13,500 Oh, crap. - They recently found a-- 802 00:29:13,500 --> 00:29:15,380 - That means the military probably has done this, 803 00:29:15,380 --> 00:29:16,220 haven't they? 804 00:29:16,220 --> 00:29:17,580 (laughing) 805 00:29:17,580 --> 00:29:21,100 - They recently found a ship in the Great Lakes 806 00:29:21,100 --> 00:29:22,140 that was pretty well preserved 807 00:29:22,140 --> 00:29:23,580 using a similar technique, right? 808 00:29:23,580 --> 00:29:25,220 Where they were kind of scanning broadly 809 00:29:25,220 --> 00:29:27,620 and then once they found a few promising echoes 810 00:29:27,620 --> 00:29:28,460 from whatever sonar they were using-- 811 00:29:28,460 --> 00:29:30,180 - Oh, just boats going back and forth? 812 00:29:30,180 --> 00:29:31,380 - I think so, yeah. 813 00:29:31,380 --> 00:29:33,620 They knew that it was somewhere in these, 814 00:29:33,620 --> 00:29:35,020 whatever, square kilometers. 815 00:29:35,020 --> 00:29:35,860 They went back and forth 816 00:29:35,860 --> 00:29:37,500 until they found a couple of promising leads 817 00:29:37,500 --> 00:29:40,380 and they did more detail on those spots. 818 00:29:40,380 --> 00:29:41,900 Makes sense. 819 00:29:41,900 --> 00:29:43,380 - Well, since the time I talked to this guy, 820 00:29:43,380 --> 00:29:45,180 I haven't found any benchmarks of this yet, 821 00:29:45,180 --> 00:29:47,540 so this would be a lot of fun to try to make. 822 00:29:47,540 --> 00:29:48,380 - Would be. 823 00:29:48,380 --> 00:29:51,540 - Sell it to hobbyists or the US military, apparently. 824 00:29:51,540 --> 00:29:52,940 - You know, there's a ton of people 825 00:29:52,940 --> 00:29:56,140 that lose their rings on beaches, right? 826 00:29:56,140 --> 00:29:59,820 And you just, like, people would pay insane amounts of money 827 00:29:59,820 --> 00:30:01,780 to find their wedding ring or something. 828 00:30:01,780 --> 00:30:04,060 So you just sell this service, 829 00:30:04,060 --> 00:30:09,060 you buy 30 and you sweep the beach, man, with this thing. 830 00:30:09,060 --> 00:30:11,100 - That's the thing, you only need one, though. 831 00:30:11,100 --> 00:30:12,660 It's like Anthony said, it's a Roomba. 832 00:30:12,660 --> 00:30:14,940 Like, when it's done, it'll go back and recharge 833 00:30:14,940 --> 00:30:15,900 and then continue on forever. 834 00:30:15,900 --> 00:30:18,020 - Solar-powered on a beach? 835 00:30:18,020 --> 00:30:20,940 (laughing) 836 00:30:20,940 --> 00:30:21,900 - I wonder if you could pitch this 837 00:30:21,900 --> 00:30:23,660 as like an environmentalist thing, right? 838 00:30:23,660 --> 00:30:25,820 Like maybe the park service would pick these up, right, 839 00:30:25,820 --> 00:30:26,820 as a way to clean up beaches. 840 00:30:26,820 --> 00:30:27,660 - Totally. 841 00:30:27,660 --> 00:30:29,140 - Oh my God, I left it on the beach. 842 00:30:29,140 --> 00:30:30,820 I can't find my gun. 843 00:30:30,820 --> 00:30:33,420 (laughing) 844 00:30:33,420 --> 00:30:35,540 - That's an environmental hazard. 845 00:30:35,540 --> 00:30:38,260 - Dude, this is so funny 'cause it's like, 846 00:30:38,260 --> 00:30:41,940 metal detecting that hobby is just like spelunking, man. 847 00:30:41,940 --> 00:30:44,740 It's like, oh, I'm searching. 848 00:30:44,740 --> 00:30:45,940 It's like a treasure hunt 849 00:30:45,940 --> 00:30:48,220 and you just take all the joy out of it, 850 00:30:48,220 --> 00:30:50,020 just rip it out of it, 851 00:30:50,020 --> 00:30:51,700 and just turn it into a commodity. 852 00:30:51,700 --> 00:30:53,580 - Systematic automation. 853 00:30:53,580 --> 00:30:55,100 (laughing) 854 00:30:55,100 --> 00:30:57,140 - It's like, oh, you do metal detecting? 855 00:30:57,140 --> 00:31:00,060 You mean those robots that go up and down the beach? 856 00:31:00,060 --> 00:31:01,940 You do that by hand? 857 00:31:01,940 --> 00:31:03,140 What the hell? 858 00:31:03,140 --> 00:31:05,860 - That covers the whole beach in about eight minutes? 859 00:31:05,860 --> 00:31:07,780 No, I used to spend all day doing it. 860 00:31:07,780 --> 00:31:10,300 - Drops 30 markers per second, you know? 861 00:31:10,300 --> 00:31:12,540 (laughing) 862 00:31:12,540 --> 00:31:14,980 - Well, the beach-going population 863 00:31:14,980 --> 00:31:16,380 is really gonna love you. 864 00:31:16,380 --> 00:31:17,660 There aren't gonna be any rednecks 865 00:31:17,660 --> 00:31:19,780 taking pop shots at your thing. 866 00:31:19,780 --> 00:31:21,540 - Your low-flying drone. 867 00:31:21,540 --> 00:31:22,820 - Blasting their family with microwaves. 868 00:31:22,820 --> 00:31:24,300 - Skimming your ankles. 869 00:31:24,300 --> 00:31:25,500 - And whatever they think. 870 00:31:25,500 --> 00:31:26,740 - Lacerating feet. 871 00:31:26,740 --> 00:31:28,500 - I don't wanna be on the implementation team 872 00:31:28,500 --> 00:31:30,740 as the guy in charge of writing the Arduino code 873 00:31:30,740 --> 00:31:32,980 to light smoke bombs on fire. 874 00:31:32,980 --> 00:31:34,980 (laughing) 875 00:31:34,980 --> 00:31:36,140 You can write that code. 876 00:31:36,140 --> 00:31:37,260 - Strike match. 877 00:31:37,260 --> 00:31:41,020 Chat, GBT, write me code to launch smoke bombs on my drone. 878 00:31:41,020 --> 00:31:44,300 - Autonomous smoke, we promise they're just smoke bombs. 879 00:31:44,300 --> 00:31:45,940 Federal government. 880 00:31:45,940 --> 00:31:47,580 - Yeah, the military definitely hasn't 881 00:31:47,580 --> 00:31:49,460 had any of that technology, right? 882 00:31:49,460 --> 00:31:50,300 Dropping bombs on a drone. 883 00:31:50,300 --> 00:31:51,980 - We're like 9/10 of the way there 884 00:31:51,980 --> 00:31:53,940 to a military robot for sure. 885 00:31:53,940 --> 00:31:55,660 - Hey, that's how we go to market. 886 00:31:55,660 --> 00:31:58,060 You know, that's how every great business starts. 887 00:31:58,060 --> 00:31:59,460 You detect-- 888 00:31:59,460 --> 00:32:00,620 - As a military robot? 889 00:32:00,620 --> 00:32:03,380 - Yeah, you just start, you do something snitchy, 890 00:32:03,380 --> 00:32:05,460 and then all of a sudden the military's like, 891 00:32:05,460 --> 00:32:07,380 we want that for ourselves. 892 00:32:07,380 --> 00:32:09,060 Do not sell this. 893 00:32:09,060 --> 00:32:11,220 - We have a drone that detects people 894 00:32:11,220 --> 00:32:14,060 that drops little capsules of Agent Orange on the beach. 895 00:32:14,060 --> 00:32:16,060 (laughing) 896 00:32:16,060 --> 00:32:16,900 - Right. 897 00:32:16,900 --> 00:32:18,540 - Gotta be careful with how you phrase it, though, 898 00:32:18,540 --> 00:32:20,580 'cause you'll put it in a different tax bracket 899 00:32:20,580 --> 00:32:21,740 if you say smoke bomb. 900 00:32:21,740 --> 00:32:24,380 It's gotta be smoke extruder or something. 901 00:32:24,380 --> 00:32:25,220 - Smoke marker. 902 00:32:25,220 --> 00:32:26,060 - Yeah. 903 00:32:26,060 --> 00:32:27,340 - Smoke marker, there it is. 904 00:32:27,340 --> 00:32:29,340 - I am curious how much people would pay 905 00:32:29,340 --> 00:32:32,820 for how much people do pay for when they lose their ring 906 00:32:32,820 --> 00:32:35,860 on a beach or whatever, and they go up and down. 907 00:32:35,860 --> 00:32:37,780 - Man, I love that, though. 908 00:32:37,780 --> 00:32:41,460 Just like an Uber system or whatnot, you lose it. 909 00:32:41,460 --> 00:32:43,100 Oh, I don't know how you would get enough people 910 00:32:43,100 --> 00:32:44,940 to know that, hey, there's a service 911 00:32:44,940 --> 00:32:48,740 that you can find your ex that you lost on a beach, 912 00:32:48,740 --> 00:32:50,460 and someone will come out to the beach and find it for you. 913 00:32:50,460 --> 00:32:53,980 - Oftentimes local metal scouting clubs 914 00:32:53,980 --> 00:32:56,860 will just do it for fun, for altruism. 915 00:32:56,860 --> 00:32:57,740 - Yeah. - Just sweet. 916 00:32:57,740 --> 00:32:58,860 - Well, they're all gonna be out of business 917 00:32:58,860 --> 00:33:00,220 with our drone now. 918 00:33:00,220 --> 00:33:01,540 - What's the target market? 919 00:33:01,540 --> 00:33:02,900 Is this like a service that we provide 920 00:33:02,900 --> 00:33:03,740 to people who lost things? 921 00:33:03,740 --> 00:33:07,420 Because the guys who are treasure hunting on the beach 922 00:33:07,420 --> 00:33:09,660 are all retired dudes who are 60 who have nothing better 923 00:33:09,660 --> 00:33:11,540 to do, they like the monotony of it. 924 00:33:12,740 --> 00:33:15,580 I can see if there's some inherent joy 925 00:33:15,580 --> 00:33:17,220 in piloting a drone. 926 00:33:17,220 --> 00:33:19,660 - There's one guy, Scott, who believes 927 00:33:19,660 --> 00:33:22,140 that this is a great hobby as long 928 00:33:22,140 --> 00:33:23,900 as he doesn't have to do anything. 929 00:33:23,900 --> 00:33:24,940 I hear what you're saying. 930 00:33:24,940 --> 00:33:28,300 Most people who wanna get into this wanna do the thing, yeah. 931 00:33:28,300 --> 00:33:32,220 - But now they can do it just in cover more ground at once 932 00:33:32,220 --> 00:33:34,620 by an order of magnitude. 933 00:33:34,620 --> 00:33:37,020 - You just have to have them drinking a margarita 934 00:33:37,020 --> 00:33:39,300 in the commercial, and people will instantly understand 935 00:33:39,300 --> 00:33:41,820 the appeal of not having to do the work themselves. 936 00:33:41,820 --> 00:33:43,580 - Well, okay, you ever see like those, 937 00:33:43,580 --> 00:33:46,100 like in movies where they make out the rich people 938 00:33:46,100 --> 00:33:48,780 to be like, "Hey, we're gonna go take you hunting," 939 00:33:48,780 --> 00:33:50,420 and they just put them up in a tower 940 00:33:50,420 --> 00:33:53,380 and they're shooting pigs that run by or something? 941 00:33:53,380 --> 00:33:54,940 We're doing that exact same thing. 942 00:33:54,940 --> 00:33:58,580 We are having a drone go out and marking the spots 943 00:33:58,580 --> 00:34:01,300 on the beach where there's 99% chance metal, 944 00:34:01,300 --> 00:34:03,220 and then they still go out with their metal detector 945 00:34:03,220 --> 00:34:05,060 and they still get to dig the thing up 946 00:34:05,060 --> 00:34:06,340 and have all the pleasure of that, 947 00:34:06,340 --> 00:34:08,460 but just without the majority of the work. 948 00:34:08,460 --> 00:34:09,300 All the fun, none of the work. 949 00:34:09,300 --> 00:34:10,300 - Just fish in a barrel, right? 950 00:34:10,300 --> 00:34:12,300 It's just fish in a barrel. 951 00:34:12,300 --> 00:34:14,060 - Every sport has their purists that say, 952 00:34:14,060 --> 00:34:16,100 "Oh, the new technology's making it 953 00:34:16,100 --> 00:34:17,820 "not what it used to be," right? 954 00:34:17,820 --> 00:34:18,900 Well, it just drops markers. 955 00:34:18,900 --> 00:34:21,020 You have to go do the last step and detect it, 956 00:34:21,020 --> 00:34:22,540 just like you have to go find the deer 957 00:34:22,540 --> 00:34:25,860 that you've immobilized with your drone and then shoot it. 958 00:34:25,860 --> 00:34:27,980 (laughing) 959 00:34:27,980 --> 00:34:29,620 - Our target market is the guys 960 00:34:29,620 --> 00:34:31,740 who shoot sedated lions. 961 00:34:31,740 --> 00:34:34,820 - Yes, exactly, same person. 962 00:34:34,820 --> 00:34:38,060 - Hey, it's okay, though, 'cause they have the most money. 963 00:34:38,060 --> 00:34:39,140 - You're getting ahead of yourself. 964 00:34:39,140 --> 00:34:40,220 - That's my pitch. 965 00:34:40,220 --> 00:34:41,060 (laughing) 966 00:34:41,060 --> 00:34:43,060 - You just said that as an off-chip cuff, 967 00:34:43,060 --> 00:34:45,140 but hunting with drones? 968 00:34:45,140 --> 00:34:47,100 Is that gonna be a thing in the future? 969 00:34:47,100 --> 00:34:49,340 Are we just gonna release drones into the woods 970 00:34:49,340 --> 00:34:52,100 and they just take down deer and you gotta go retrieve them? 971 00:34:52,100 --> 00:34:53,620 - That's awful. - I would be... 972 00:34:53,620 --> 00:34:54,580 - That's horrifying. 973 00:34:54,580 --> 00:34:55,420 - Oh, I was about to say. 974 00:34:55,420 --> 00:34:56,940 - Did you just say, "I would do it"? 975 00:34:56,940 --> 00:34:57,780 (laughing) 976 00:34:57,780 --> 00:34:58,620 Or else it's like I would-- 977 00:34:58,620 --> 00:35:00,460 - I would actually enjoy hunting if it was like, 978 00:35:00,460 --> 00:35:03,700 "Whoa, I'm gonna go robot flying." 979 00:35:03,700 --> 00:35:06,060 - First-person piloting and chasing down, 980 00:35:06,060 --> 00:35:06,900 okay, yeah, that does count as hunting. 981 00:35:06,900 --> 00:35:09,300 - I think the tech community is missing out on hunting 982 00:35:09,300 --> 00:35:11,140 until today. 983 00:35:11,140 --> 00:35:11,980 - The first-person viewer-- 984 00:35:11,980 --> 00:35:13,140 - Bird to prey simulator. 985 00:35:13,140 --> 00:35:13,980 - Not a big overlap, maybe. 986 00:35:13,980 --> 00:35:15,100 - Yeah, just gotta be careful 987 00:35:15,100 --> 00:35:16,620 with the whole human hunting thing, 988 00:35:16,620 --> 00:35:18,220 but outside of that, it's fine. 989 00:35:18,220 --> 00:35:20,620 (laughing) 990 00:35:20,620 --> 00:35:23,820 - We made a great tool for predators in the woods. 991 00:35:23,820 --> 00:35:26,700 - I was gonna say, before we were at 95% military robot, 992 00:35:26,700 --> 00:35:29,700 now you're at 99.8%, you know? 993 00:35:29,700 --> 00:35:31,020 (laughing) 994 00:35:31,020 --> 00:35:32,460 - With just a little bit of serial killer 995 00:35:32,460 --> 00:35:33,980 making up that last 1%. 996 00:35:33,980 --> 00:35:36,560 (upbeat music) 997 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:38,640 (gun firing) 998 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,640 - All right, Anthony, what is an idea 999 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,600 that you would love to try, but just don't have time for? 1000 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,680 - Well, that's the thing. 1001 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,680 So I don't have any ideas, 1002 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,720 which is why I went to Twitter. 1003 00:35:50,720 --> 00:35:53,560 And so I'm gonna give you guys 1004 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,040 a little bit of a challenge this week, right, 1005 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,400 of taking this god-awful idea 1006 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,600 and making it not horrible somehow. 1007 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:01,760 All right, do you mind if I read, 1008 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:02,960 I'm not gonna mention the guy's name, 1009 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:03,800 but do you want me to, 1010 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,280 is it okay if I read the tweet verbatim? 1011 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:06,520 - Oh, yeah, please do. 1012 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:07,360 - Okay. 1013 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:12,000 There is a massive unmet demand in the USA for servants. 1014 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,880 Mega opportunity for anyone who can figure out new 1015 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,760 and non-icky forms of domestic service 1016 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,760 for the American mass affluent. 1017 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:21,880 You have people earning 500,000, 1018 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,360 resentfully doing their own laundry 1019 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,240 and loading the dishwasher. 1020 00:36:25,240 --> 00:36:26,560 He goes on to say, 1021 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,600 this shows the core frustration of mass affluence. 1022 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,440 You can eat berries flown from Peru, 1023 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:32,960 buy new clothes every week, 1024 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,240 drive a 6,000 pound luxury vehicle, 1025 00:36:35,240 --> 00:36:38,360 but there is no one to do anything for you. 1026 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:42,160 No one else is poor enough to really serve you. 1027 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:43,840 Okay, so. 1028 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,480 - Interesting. 1029 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,120 Uber for servants? 1030 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:49,720 - So obviously the service industry 1031 00:36:49,720 --> 00:36:51,040 is bigger than it's ever been, right? 1032 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,120 You can have someone buy your groceries for you, 1033 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,440 you drive you places, you have chauffeurs, 1034 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:56,920 you have people, you know. 1035 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:57,840 - Personal assistants. 1036 00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,880 - I mean, maid servants have been a thing for forever, 1037 00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:02,600 but these guys really want to recapture the experience 1038 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:04,480 of like Victorian era royalty 1039 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,560 or like a Southern plantation owner, right? 1040 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:11,480 So like, how do we recapture some of that experience 1041 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,920 and resell it to the ultra rich in America? 1042 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:16,960 I have one idea, but I want to hear what you guys have. 1043 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,120 - You know, somebody said like Uber Eats, 1044 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:23,560 like you pay, it's like a distributed servitude model, 1045 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:24,400 right? 1046 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,080 I pay for DoorDash, we do daycare, 1047 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,000 we do like cleaning services. 1048 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:34,720 It all costs money and it's all just disjointed, right? 1049 00:37:34,720 --> 00:37:37,200 So you're kind of saying a servant 1050 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:38,800 would do all those things. 1051 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,360 This is so bad. 1052 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,840 A servant or whatever you call it, right? 1053 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:46,240 Like instead of hiring all these distributed services, 1054 00:37:46,240 --> 00:37:51,240 you get a bundle with one person and you save money, right? 1055 00:37:51,240 --> 00:37:54,960 Like is that, who goes and picks up your taco bell 1056 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:55,800 at 2 a.m.? 1057 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,200 - Seems like the closest modern incarnation of this 1058 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,120 is just the personal assistant, right? 1059 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:01,760 You have your business or your personal life, 1060 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,040 have the person who manages and coordinates 1061 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,740 all those different disparate services for you. 1062 00:38:06,740 --> 00:38:09,280 How is that different? 1063 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,800 - I feel like you could make this 1064 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:13,320 into a full-time thing though. 1065 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:18,320 Like one quote unquote servant is shared between 1066 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:19,640 four or five different people 1067 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:23,240 and their full-time gig is just running around doing the, 1068 00:38:23,240 --> 00:38:25,480 it's like submitting something to IT, 1069 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,040 like you make a ticket or your app, 1070 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:28,640 all it would have to make is a ticket. 1071 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,480 Do my laundry, clean my kitchen. 1072 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:31,880 - Remember Cha-Cha? 1073 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:33,240 When you were gonna text questions in 1074 00:38:33,240 --> 00:38:35,680 and it was like distributed human answers? 1075 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,640 You almost want that but for like, yeah. 1076 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:38,480 - Pre-internet. 1077 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:39,960 - Well, it was like early internet, yeah. 1078 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:40,800 - Or pre-cell phone. 1079 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,840 - People were texting, that was the main interface 1080 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:44,160 with Cha-Cha and you could be like, 1081 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,280 hey, I wanna find this product, can you help find me? 1082 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,040 Or I want to get an answer to this question 1083 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,200 and it's kind of hard to Google for it, what do you got? 1084 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,400 And research this for me and they would charge hourly. 1085 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:55,960 Yeah, I love the ticket idea. 1086 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,560 It's almost like personal assistance as a service. 1087 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,920 You give them your logins for your Uber Eats 1088 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,920 and you give them permission to schedule a maid for you 1089 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:09,000 and a chimney cleaning and whatever the hell else you need. 1090 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:10,880 And then yeah, you reach out to them 1091 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:11,920 who does all of it for you. 1092 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:12,760 - Is this just-- 1093 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:13,600 - That's awesome. 1094 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,360 - But is it miserable enough? 1095 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,560 Does it really capture that feeling 1096 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,240 of having power over someone? 1097 00:39:20,240 --> 00:39:21,880 - Can you sell that as a service? 1098 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,040 - We're thinking too practically, aren't we? 1099 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:25,440 - Is that the selling point? 1100 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,400 Is that what they were going for in the tweet? 1101 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:28,320 - Misery as a service. 1102 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:29,480 - It's clearly what this guy wants 1103 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,680 that he feels is missing from, all right, 1104 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,600 here's my pitch, right? 1105 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:37,000 Airbnb, Airbnb but with live-in servants, 1106 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:41,280 selling the servant experience in small quantities of time. 1107 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:42,400 - Oh, so I don't pay anything 1108 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,240 and I get to live in some rich person's house, 1109 00:39:44,240 --> 00:39:45,760 I just have to do their-- 1110 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,280 - Well, you still book it like a regular, 1111 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,080 well, yes, if you're the employee, right? 1112 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,280 So here's how we make it not icky, right? 1113 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,200 We, instead of these Airbnb investors 1114 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:56,480 taking housing off the market, 1115 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,720 we are providing housing to other people 1116 00:39:59,720 --> 00:40:01,640 who act as live-in servants, right? 1117 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,680 Who then play act this class position 1118 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,600 for the amusement of the ultra wealthy. 1119 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,000 - Yeah. - Whoa. 1120 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:09,920 You know what's funny? 1121 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:14,920 I think people would sign up for this, right? 1122 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:19,520 - I can just picture and check it out on your Airbnb 1123 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:23,360 like amenities, fast internet, hot tub, live-in servant. 1124 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,640 - Yes, I'm gonna filter by that. 1125 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,880 But at the same time, I know people that are, 1126 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,480 they will be terrified of booking an Airbnb 1127 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,320 if they have to interact with the host 1128 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,000 'cause they're so socially scared 1129 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,760 of talking to another human being. 1130 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:38,880 - But how much money do those people have? 1131 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:40,920 The ultra wealthy, our target market, 1132 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,800 has no social qualms at all. 1133 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:44,640 - That is an excellent-- 1134 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:46,640 - Do you think the ultra wealthy want to leave their homes 1135 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,280 and go to another place? 1136 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,000 I feel like you could do exactly what you just pitched 1137 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,360 but it comes to you. 1138 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,560 Like live-in servant for the weekend, rental, 1139 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:57,520 servant rental. 1140 00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:02,320 They'd come, they'd stay in a sleeping bag in your basement. 1141 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:03,160 They-- 1142 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,080 - That sounds pretty geeky. 1143 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,320 - But I don't know, how many people had to go to Applebee's 1144 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,200 during 2020 in order, you know? 1145 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,880 Like if you get to feel that kick, 1146 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:16,200 you will go anywhere. 1147 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,280 - Okay, in the ultra, super ultra wealthy, 1148 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,120 like this is like LA, 1149 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,800 everybody's got multi-million dollar houses. 1150 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,480 - Yeah, tell us what it's like, Russell. 1151 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,880 - Well, my brother lives out there but that's all I know. 1152 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,240 I mean, listen, if you think about it, 1153 00:41:30,240 --> 00:41:31,640 the housing, it's like, all right, 1154 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,640 if I work six hours a day 1155 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,040 and you have four live-in servants in one house 1156 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:39,880 and I get to live in some sick-ass mansion 1157 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:41,960 and we just rotate. 1158 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,520 It's just like me and three other dudes doing, 1159 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,120 like I don't know what the servant work's gonna entail 1160 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,440 but I hope it's just like cleaning dishes, 1161 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,800 like washing, cleaning the pool, 1162 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,400 washing the windows, whatever, right? 1163 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,200 I mean, and it's, I don't know what the cost is. 1164 00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:58,400 Am I gonna have to pay rent 1165 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,680 or am I just like working for six hours a day 1166 00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,000 to pay off rent, which shoot, 1167 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:08,920 I mean, rent in certain areas is pretty pricey, right? 1168 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:09,960 You just think about like, 1169 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,680 I can live in a sick-ass mansion 1170 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,440 in incredible property for just six hours a day 1171 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,080 and then you can go work another job 1172 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:17,920 or something to get paid. 1173 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:19,600 I don't know, it's just, 1174 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,600 there's like, maybe not full-on servitude 1175 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:27,280 but like work for rent in like killer spots. 1176 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,640 Like, imagine you work for like freaking a celebrity 1177 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,000 that you like love. 1178 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:33,720 Like, I think there are celebrities 1179 00:42:33,720 --> 00:42:35,240 that would just like have servants 1180 00:42:35,240 --> 00:42:37,200 'cause they're like, I would do anything for you. 1181 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,120 Like, not that we want that, 1182 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,280 not that we wanna encourage that crazy, 1183 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,280 that's where Anthony is here to-- 1184 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:45,840 - We did say icky in the title. 1185 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,080 - That's right, it's pretty icky, right? 1186 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:48,440 - Not icky. - Not icky. 1187 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,480 - We want it to be not icky. 1188 00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:51,320 - Oh, is that what you're going for? 1189 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,640 - So I mean like, you know, just like six hours a day, 1190 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,400 I just need you to be available. 1191 00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:59,120 I need you to pick up groceries or whatever, right? 1192 00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,120 - Is this where the housing market is leading us nowadays? 1193 00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:03,000 You can't own a house, 1194 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,160 you just gotta be a servant in someone else's. 1195 00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:07,800 - That is the return to feudalism 1196 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:09,440 that I think this Twitter user 1197 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:10,280 really wants us to aspire to. 1198 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,560 - I mean, if there's no demand or market for it, 1199 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,040 then fine, but I think there are people out there 1200 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:17,920 that'd be like, yeah, I'll trade six hours 1201 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:19,520 of my life to live in. 1202 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,440 - There must be enough people in this world 1203 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:22,800 that have an extra spare bedroom 1204 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:24,960 that would be like, I would have someone live here 1205 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:26,460 if I didn't have to see them much, 1206 00:43:26,460 --> 00:43:28,440 but they cleaned up after me all the time. 1207 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,360 I think you're onto something. 1208 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:31,560 - Well, let me throw this out there too, 1209 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,380 'cause you know, we'll rent like a really nice place 1210 00:43:33,380 --> 00:43:35,800 for us to go out to as a group, right, 1211 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:37,120 for a weekend or whatever. 1212 00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,560 What if we replaced, you know, the service fee, 1213 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,160 the cleaning fee with this servant fee, right? 1214 00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,320 And these guys just like lived in an adjacent property. 1215 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:45,880 We wouldn't even have to interact with them that much, 1216 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:49,800 but we would just dodge that ridiculous extra fee 1217 00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,080 that Airbnb is so infamous for, right? 1218 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:53,440 We just pay the servant fee up front 1219 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,280 and we don't have to deal with any of the cleanup ourselves. 1220 00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:56,280 - Servant fee. 1221 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:57,440 (laughing) 1222 00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:58,280 - I love this. 1223 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,040 - We might need to change some of the wording 1224 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,240 and branding on this, but I really do love it. 1225 00:44:03,240 --> 00:44:04,120 - While you're there for the weekend, 1226 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:05,360 they can do your taxes. 1227 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,320 (laughing) 1228 00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:09,280 - Submit a ticket. 1229 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,200 - It's like, how far are we from like Alexa 1230 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,260 and Google Home being able to do this? 1231 00:44:15,260 --> 00:44:17,760 Like Alexa, clean my dishes, 1232 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:21,040 and then 30 minutes later, TaskRabbit sends out a dude 1233 00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,600 or gal to wash, literally clean my dishes and then go home. 1234 00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:26,000 Like, are we there? 1235 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,040 I think we might be there already. 1236 00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,720 Forget the whole live in servant aspect, right? 1237 00:44:30,720 --> 00:44:33,360 And just like, could I just get my like... 1238 00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,040 - I think you're right though. 1239 00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:37,600 Like, it'll be like on Rover, 1240 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,760 if you have a dog where you kind of, 1241 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:41,280 you do an initial meet and greet, 1242 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,200 like, okay, you're a sane person, 1243 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,320 I trust you to be in my house and walk my dog 1244 00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:46,160 and take care of things. 1245 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,840 Like, you do that, the meet and greet with your servant, 1246 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,680 and then you can just forever rely on them for anything. 1247 00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,240 Here's a key to my, or access to my house, 1248 00:44:54,240 --> 00:44:55,520 here's the tickets going through. 1249 00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:56,360 - Dude, but you don't even need 1250 00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,640 like a vetting servant process. 1251 00:44:58,640 --> 00:44:59,880 It could just be, I don't know, 1252 00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:03,680 when you have a five-star Uber rating for like 1,000. 1253 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:05,960 I mean, like if you have 1,000 people 1254 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:07,880 that you've Uber drove for people 1255 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:09,500 and you have a five-star rating, 1256 00:45:09,500 --> 00:45:11,280 like, you kind of just, 1257 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,180 I mean, you trust anybody to drive you. 1258 00:45:14,180 --> 00:45:16,520 Like, driving is the most dangerous thing 1259 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:17,720 you could possibly do, 1260 00:45:17,720 --> 00:45:20,560 and you're just trusting literally randos 1261 00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:25,480 in their crappy cars to drive you across town in a city. 1262 00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,960 Like, why can't they wash my dishes or do my laundry? 1263 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,640 I mean, that seems way less risky. 1264 00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,800 Sure, they're coming into my home, right? 1265 00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:35,080 Oh no. 1266 00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:36,800 But like, what, I don't know. 1267 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,040 There's just like a little bit of, 1268 00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,660 how are we that, what's the trust issue? 1269 00:45:41,660 --> 00:45:43,540 Let's solve for that, you know? 1270 00:45:43,540 --> 00:45:45,720 Try it for, this idea is insane, 1271 00:45:45,720 --> 00:45:47,820 but I'm starting to get more and more convinced 1272 00:45:47,820 --> 00:45:48,660 by its potential. 1273 00:45:48,660 --> 00:45:52,280 - There is someone out there who would do this. 1274 00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:53,740 There are people out there who would not, 1275 00:45:53,740 --> 00:45:54,580 but there are a lot of people who would. 1276 00:45:54,580 --> 00:45:55,780 - There are people doing this already. 1277 00:45:55,780 --> 00:45:58,040 They just don't want to have the relationship 1278 00:45:58,040 --> 00:45:59,520 with the one-on-one person. 1279 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,560 The whole servant aspect is the actual, 1280 00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:03,920 I mean, sure, if you want to be-- 1281 00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:05,100 - That's the X factor. 1282 00:46:05,100 --> 00:46:07,300 - That's the X factor. 1283 00:46:07,300 --> 00:46:10,620 I mean, if you're a jack of all servant trades, 1284 00:46:10,620 --> 00:46:12,420 I guess you could just go into, 1285 00:46:12,420 --> 00:46:15,260 if I do jack of all servants, 1286 00:46:15,260 --> 00:46:16,940 but lean into it, I guess. 1287 00:46:16,940 --> 00:46:19,300 If I do DoorDash and then I do Uber 1288 00:46:19,300 --> 00:46:21,260 and then I do TaskRabbit, 1289 00:46:21,260 --> 00:46:23,720 it's like, at some point, 1290 00:46:23,720 --> 00:46:26,260 why not just streamline the whole process, 1291 00:46:26,260 --> 00:46:27,380 cut out the middleman, 1292 00:46:27,380 --> 00:46:30,620 and just be the one-on-one family person? 1293 00:46:30,620 --> 00:46:33,100 - Yeah, it's a cable bundle, 1294 00:46:33,100 --> 00:46:35,780 but for all of the different services that you do. 1295 00:46:35,780 --> 00:46:38,420 - The servant word is the problem here, right? 1296 00:46:38,420 --> 00:46:41,020 If somebody who's listening to this show 1297 00:46:41,020 --> 00:46:42,580 and is thinking about canceling us, 1298 00:46:42,580 --> 00:46:44,540 can you make sure that when you cancel us, 1299 00:46:44,540 --> 00:46:46,700 you just come up with a better word than servant 1300 00:46:46,700 --> 00:46:49,740 in your tweet or your, I don't know, 1301 00:46:49,740 --> 00:46:51,100 YouTube rant or whatever? 1302 00:46:51,100 --> 00:46:52,940 Just add the one element, 1303 00:46:52,940 --> 00:46:55,460 like, what would be a better word than servant? 1304 00:46:55,460 --> 00:46:57,300 So, plug. 1305 00:46:57,300 --> 00:47:00,260 - I really like the jack of all trades servant thing. 1306 00:47:00,260 --> 00:47:03,660 Maybe we can reclaim that, right? 1307 00:47:03,660 --> 00:47:05,460 I can see someone putting in their Twitter bio, 1308 00:47:05,460 --> 00:47:10,460 top 1% servant on whatever our service is called. 1309 00:47:10,460 --> 00:47:13,220 - I mean, is it TaskRabbit? 1310 00:47:13,220 --> 00:47:16,060 It sounds terrible, but maybe we need to, 1311 00:47:16,060 --> 00:47:18,060 maybe this is a whole societal issue, 1312 00:47:18,060 --> 00:47:20,540 but TaskRabbit's basically like, 1313 00:47:20,540 --> 00:47:24,860 I'll pay 30 bucks for somebody to do this random thing. 1314 00:47:24,860 --> 00:47:28,180 Are we not the ultra wealthy to some extent 1315 00:47:28,180 --> 00:47:32,020 if we're paying somebody 30 bucks to mow our lawn? 1316 00:47:32,020 --> 00:47:32,860 - Hang a picture. 1317 00:47:32,860 --> 00:47:34,340 - Oh, right. 1318 00:47:34,340 --> 00:47:38,020 - It's just, who is the ultra wealthy at that point? 1319 00:47:38,020 --> 00:47:40,980 We're just mildly inconvenienced people. 1320 00:47:40,980 --> 00:47:47,460 I think inconvenience is becoming a commodity, 1321 00:47:47,460 --> 00:47:51,620 because if you think about it, driving, anything, 1322 00:47:51,620 --> 00:47:54,020 it's a commodity, inconvenience, right? 1323 00:47:54,020 --> 00:47:57,260 So, I mean, if I'm gonna pay an extra $30 1324 00:47:57,260 --> 00:48:00,940 to have buffalo wild wings delivered to my home, 1325 00:48:00,940 --> 00:48:05,940 it's just like, am I really that strapped for time? 1326 00:48:05,940 --> 00:48:09,300 And like, come on. 1327 00:48:09,300 --> 00:48:11,860 - You know, I would love to be a part, 1328 00:48:11,860 --> 00:48:13,660 and even a small part of the hit piece 1329 00:48:13,660 --> 00:48:14,900 that eventually comes out, right? 1330 00:48:14,900 --> 00:48:17,220 The reason why our generation can't buy homes 1331 00:48:17,220 --> 00:48:20,020 is because you're hiring too many goddamn servants. 1332 00:48:20,020 --> 00:48:22,700 (laughing) 1333 00:48:22,700 --> 00:48:24,620 - Millennials are ruining everything. 1334 00:48:24,620 --> 00:48:28,100 - We might be starting a movement on this podcast. 1335 00:48:28,100 --> 00:48:29,900 Like, are we all servants? 1336 00:48:29,900 --> 00:48:32,540 Are we all servants to somebody, right? 1337 00:48:32,540 --> 00:48:33,780 - Wow, so true. 1338 00:48:33,780 --> 00:48:36,620 - That's the evils of capitalism, 1339 00:48:36,620 --> 00:48:38,420 and that's really the point that I wanted to get across 1340 00:48:38,420 --> 00:48:41,620 on your, what is this, investment show? 1341 00:48:41,620 --> 00:48:44,020 (laughing) 1342 00:48:44,020 --> 00:48:48,660 - Whoa, you know, you're not wrong, psychology man, Anthony. 1343 00:48:48,660 --> 00:48:50,940 Like, psychology. 1344 00:48:50,940 --> 00:48:52,740 - Capitalism is evil. 1345 00:48:52,740 --> 00:48:54,620 Thank you very much for listening to our pitches 1346 00:48:54,620 --> 00:48:56,860 on Business Startup Show. 1347 00:48:56,860 --> 00:48:59,700 We hope you enjoyed yourself this evening. 1348 00:48:59,700 --> 00:49:02,100 And thank you, Anthony, for being with us tonight. 1349 00:49:02,100 --> 00:49:03,580 This was a lot of fun. 1350 00:49:03,580 --> 00:49:04,660 - Pleasure to be here. 1351 00:49:04,660 --> 00:49:07,340 If the guests request me again, I will show up anytime. 1352 00:49:07,340 --> 00:49:08,340 - Oh, delightful. 1353 00:49:08,340 --> 00:49:10,100 We will definitely have you back. 1354 00:49:10,100 --> 00:49:11,620 Our website is Spitball.show. 1355 00:49:11,620 --> 00:49:12,460 Please stop on by. 1356 00:49:12,460 --> 00:49:14,180 That's where you can find out the latest episodes 1357 00:49:14,180 --> 00:49:15,820 and follow us on all the different platforms. 1358 00:49:15,820 --> 00:49:19,140 Email us, please, feedback, comments, ideas, 1359 00:49:19,140 --> 00:49:20,940 rants on YouTube that you've made 1360 00:49:20,940 --> 00:49:23,940 about how the word servant is not okay 1361 00:49:23,940 --> 00:49:25,420 for this generation to use anymore. 1362 00:49:25,420 --> 00:49:28,380 All of that can be sent to podcast@Spitball.show. 1363 00:49:28,380 --> 00:49:30,140 And that's also how you can follow us on the Fediverse, 1364 00:49:30,140 --> 00:49:32,860 such as Mastodon Podcast at Spitball.show. 1365 00:49:32,860 --> 00:49:34,940 Our subreddit is r/spitballshow. 1366 00:49:34,940 --> 00:49:37,700 Our intro/outro music is "Swingers" by Bonkers Beat Club. 1367 00:49:37,700 --> 00:49:40,060 Please, you are listening to this on a podcast app. 1368 00:49:40,060 --> 00:49:41,380 Pull over in your car. 1369 00:49:41,380 --> 00:49:42,980 Take a minute, pull it out of your pocket. 1370 00:49:42,980 --> 00:49:44,620 Look at that podcast app right now, 1371 00:49:44,620 --> 00:49:47,700 turn on the screen, and just press subscribe. 1372 00:49:47,700 --> 00:49:50,180 Press rate, press add. 1373 00:49:50,180 --> 00:49:52,220 Whatever it is that it says next to our name, 1374 00:49:52,220 --> 00:49:53,180 press that button, please. 1375 00:49:53,180 --> 00:49:54,260 That helps us. 1376 00:49:54,260 --> 00:49:56,220 And please rate us five stars on Apple Podcasts. 1377 00:49:56,220 --> 00:49:58,660 That's how people can find out about the show. 1378 00:49:58,660 --> 00:50:00,660 New episode is coming out soon. 1379 00:50:00,660 --> 00:50:01,940 We will see you then. 1380 00:50:01,940 --> 00:50:04,540 (upbeat music) 1381 00:50:04,540 --> 00:50:06,860 (dramatic music)