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- I'm Russell.

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- And I'm Leo.

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This is Spitball.

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Welcome to Spitball,

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where three Boolean Buddies and a guest

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empty our heads of startup and tech product ideas

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that we have stuck up in there

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so you can all have them for free.

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Anything that we say is yours to keep.

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And this week, Scott, I believe you brought our guest again,

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I did. I have brought Noah. Noah and I have been working at the same company for the last

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couple of months now. And on paper, he's software engineer and our company's lead QA engineer.

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But in reality, though, Noah has probably traveled further down the entrepreneurial

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AI vibe code rabbit hole than anyone I've ever met. And that's saying something because

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I know both of you guys.

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So when Noah and I last talked, I think you had, what, 40 active app releases and probably

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like several dozen more being built at the moment of this recording right now, and probably

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the highest level subscription to every AI service that there is.

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And it's still, all that is still not enough to contain all the creative energy that this

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So I'm very excited to welcome Noah this week.

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Welcome.

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Well, thank you for the introduction.

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Definitely appreciate that.

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And yeah, I'm here to burn some tokens with you folks together, communally.

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Stop generating.

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It sounds like we're gonna have to leave about 10 minutes at the end for you to do all of

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your plugs.

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Plugs.

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Yeah, we got to give you time to plug your 90 different domains, I guess.

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I want to hear all 90, though.

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Yeah, me too.

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They all have like the classic tech, you know, Latin word, spin-off idea, stupid startup

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name.

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No vowels, ends in L-Y, we love it.

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Well, Noah, much like many of our guests in the past,

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we're talking in the pre-show and you're like,

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"Man, I have like seven ideas,

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"I don't even know what to pick."

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And so with cases like this,

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sometimes we will kick off the show

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with a little warmup game that we call intramurals,

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where we go through our lists

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and try to clear the decks of some half ideas

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that don't really deserve a full pitch,

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but there's something there

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that should be duggled into a little bit.

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So who wants to kick us off with our first reject half idea?

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- Do it, Russell, what's up, what do you got?

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- So here, I'll start with the background.

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My daughter, a year and a half,

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has probably had three sips of different

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alcoholic beverages because of whatever happened

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with me leaving a drink out or just leaving her alone.

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I was thinking, what if you could put a ring

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on your finger, and it is ID,

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and it would unlock the drink.

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so that my bad parenting could be safer.

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I blame the manufacturers of cans

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for not coming up with this.

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- Dude, I tell you what,

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I have an RFID chip in my wedding band

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and I have a copy of my ID

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that I use to get into buildings at work

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and instead of having to remember to bring my wallet,

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or whatever, the cafeteria, it just works.

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It's great.

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I would have a hard time going back,

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because I never remember to bring my wallet and keys

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anywhere anymore.

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It's that.

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All the hardware for this exists.

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You need a little case that goes around a can or a bottle.

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A koozie.

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A koozie with a one-way valve that's activated by--

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I see interlock koozie.

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Sick.

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I can't believe this is going to happen, obviously.

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Printed outside.

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Remember when Ben and Jerry's sold the little Ben and Jerry's

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that goes over their pint.

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it's like a joke gift that you would get somebody

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that's a little padlock that goes--

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Yeah, it seals the ice cream pint shut.

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That's that, you want that, but electronic, that's great.

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- That's a good one, Russell.

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- Yeah, so red Solo cups, that'd be great.

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so everybody that's at a wedding,

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you know, you could prevent the underage drinking

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'cause if the cup gets picked up, it's out the ring.

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- Could you pitch this to college students

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for like college parties where you hand out the rings

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to people who you know have the ID

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and like you can have everyone commingle

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and the cops know that there's no underage drinking

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happening there because like only the people who--

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- Your can scans your ID every time you take a sip.

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- Well, you have the ring on, it just works, right?

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- Cake stands are gonna be way different.

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- Yeah, exactly.

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- Until one guy comes in with the flipper zero,

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he's drinking everybody's beers.

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- Cloning your ID.

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- I have five different IDs on me right now.

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- It's like a fake ID of the 22nd century.

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I love it.

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- All real.

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- Yep, that's it.

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- Man, I was halfway done with my drink,

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but I forgot to charge it, so now I can't finish my drink.

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My drink's out of batteries, damn it.

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- Come on, come on, damn it.

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- Is it waterproof?

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Can it support shower beers?

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for beer spills, that's better.

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- Shower beers.

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- Yeah, when I'm showering with my children,

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I don't want them to be like, "I need a beer."

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- For the gym shower.

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- No, that's my drink.

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- That's right.

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- We all shower with our whole families, right?

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- You guys don't have kids, you wouldn't understand.

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- You have 40 domains.

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I mean, you can't have kids and have 40 domains.

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- Child support payment, more like namecheap.com payment.

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What were we talking about?

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- I have so many questions.

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- All right, I gotta steer back, I got one.

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- Okay, what do you got, bud?

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- So, took an Uber recently.

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Uber had little screens on the back of the chair

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I just had not seen this before.

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It had, "Hello, Scott," and then,

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"Hey, I could add a tip and stuff on here,"

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and it was playing ads.

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"Oh yeah, there's just a company that sends these to us

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"and they give us like 10 to 25 cents a ride

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"just to have it there.

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"We don't pay anything for it."

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That's a cool model.

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What else can we apply this to?

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I wanna do this with urinals and bars.

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I've got 10 cents a flush,

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you just, there's an ad right in front of you

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the whole time.

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- Or in the stall, oh no.

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- In the stall, wherever.

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It is just a screen, super cheap hardware,

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playing whatever you want.

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-No, it's got to be interactive.

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-All smeared with fingerprints and stuff.

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-No, hands-free.

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Hands-free, use the stream.

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-Use the stream. -Streaming powered.

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-The hottest new streaming platform.

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-There's just guys chugging water out there.

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I got to get the high score in Pong.

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-Oh, no.

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-You play with the guy next to you?

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-Paddle ship? I'd do that.

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-Competitiveness.

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It's like those games, you know, at the carnivals.

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You just gotta aim and hit the target

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and just like keep it going, right?

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- Hand-eye coordination.

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- You're also incentivizing public shitting.

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Right, aren't you like,

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"I'm just gonna go to my local pub

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"just to get the 10 cents, wait, maybe I missed something."

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- Scott's been in the bathroom for like 25 minutes.

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What is he doing in there?

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- I'm paying for the date.

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somehow with that as well.

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It just feels right

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I was thinking the magic mirrors where you've got the embedded screen behind the thing over the sinks to when I get every station

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Involved an ad as far as you can see was you can watch the action

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What I've been thinking the world needs more of is screens with advertisements on them

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Why not in apartments like you know how you can buy the Amazon fire tablet for like 20 bucks cheaper?

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be getting a dog wash right now.

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It's like that screen with the second screen below it.

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What's it called?

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The free V or whatever you're talking about.

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You can get a 55 inch TV for free from a company that watches all your watching

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habits and advertises at you or whatever.

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And there's a second smaller display that is not for the television use that's

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I forget what it's called, but the Verge reviewed it and said it sucked.

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That makes me feel so sick.

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They said, "We are just being upfront with the same deal that all the other TV manufacturers have,

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which is we collect all the information on you and show you ads and stuff.

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They are just not being honest about it.

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We are forthright and you can have the TV for free."

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Which is like compelling, right?

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Yeah, it's that, but in a urinal.

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At least the TV's don't piss all over them.

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Yours doesn't.

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You don't know me.

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All right, Leo, what you got?

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On this week's My Brother, My Brother and Me, they made an offhanded quick joke

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about CPAP machine scent pods.

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Let's dive into this idea.

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You have a machine hooked up to you all night.

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That's delivering air to your body, right?

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Why not put a little something in the middle?

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You got a little like a fresh baked cookies.

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It's the morning.

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You got that fresh roasted coffee scent.

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There's so many opportunities here for you to sell a pod, an accessory, a

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subscription service, make that a little bit more luxury and carcinogenic.

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Honestly though, like you have the fancy, you know, the light alarms and

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No, just put like a cinnamon roll Keurig, whatever thing in there.

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And that's how you wake up.

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Pavlov yourself.

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Is there that office scene where Michael Scott burns his feet on the

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bacon, the George Foreman grill.

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Because he loves to wake up to the smell of bacon.

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So he wakes up and turns on the grill, goes back to sleep,

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and wakes up to bacon a few minutes later.

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But he burns his foot on it.

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Yeah, it's that.

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You could wake up to the smell of bacon,

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only it's coming from a pod in your CPAP.

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We just really mess with someone's dreams at like 3 AM.

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Put a random cartridge in there.

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Smells like fear.

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Maybe you could hook this up with the lemon peel.

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You get like-- you're trying to alert yourself

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you're dreaming get a lucid dreaming thing if you smell a certain scent

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instead of sealed flashing light oh you could mess with that person so much in real life

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though light a lemon candle in the house to see the reaction the CPAP machine

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gathers air from the room right like why aren't we selling air that is naturally

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harvested so you want like fresh pasture air you could be breathing fresh pasture

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air from a tank the entire night like space balls where they crack the can of

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air to breathe yeah. Fresh mountain valley oh it's so good it's from the Alps

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I live in LA there's smog everywhere we're just gonna have big giant things

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of air that are shipped in from the Rockies. Do they sell like alarm clocks

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that way though like why don't they have smell alarms? I don't know. Fire! That'll get you out of bed.

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Ha ha ha every day. I don't know if I want to train myself to ignore that.

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Sensor Wake. Yep. Apparently Holiday Inn Express. They have fragrance cartridge ones.

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Okay, this is a thing, but not in line in your seat, Pat.

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Fragrant, so it is Holiday Inn upcharge. $25 a night to wake up to the smell.

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Holiday Inn Express Breakfast Alarm Clock. I mean, yeah, you could even have this be like an oil diffusery type thing.

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It's probably not great to like, huff that stuff straight into the lungs, but there's something here.

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The new collab with Yankee Candle.

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Exactly. Oh, yeah. Oh my mother-in-law's here

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There's all kinds of branding opportunities you get your like Auntie Anne's and your your

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Fudge shop, whatever it is. That's gonna make it free Cinnabon. People are gonna have to buy it

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They're gonna go to Cinnabon right after that's right door - right on the side of the CPAP machine. Just press a button

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C-PAP machines

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There you go.

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All right, now what's your intramural?

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All right, so I don't know if you guys know this, but you can pasteurize meat at low temperatures.

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Like if you sous vide meat, it doesn't necessarily change color or consistency.

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And so for folks that want to get like an authentic cannibal experience, you could have

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a restaurant that serves pasteurized pork or chicken that you can essentially get the

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feeling of eating it raw. Alright one suggestion on your pitch there's a

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single word I would drop. No that's the viral effect right there. It's not for me.

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No I don't do raw fish. Of course not. There's just a market. For the animal in you. For the animal in you. I can see that in an italics

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script a little drip of blood no utensils table they slap it down in

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front of you it's a drumstick but it's just raw meat hanging off the idea of

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biting into like chicken that looks pink still completely safe to eat for your

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body for your brain yeah that's so sure mental hurdle it's the fear factor

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thousands of years of evolution beat Chang telling you no I'll have the

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chicken sandwich rare pasteurized seeding moving so my buddy Sean did this

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once he pasteurized it but then he seared it you know you sear it because

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you got a you can't eat you know but maybe I kind of wanted a piece that

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wasn't seared I'm not gonna lie I was like oh if this is safe just once just

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one exactly I'll please have the the buffalo chicken nigiri please chicken

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sushi why is sushi only fish I guess you could do like a sushi restaurant like

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that almost right I'm willing to try pork I definitely have had steaks I

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don't think I could do like poultry chicken turkey that is hard to imagine

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Yeah, we've all had like steak tartare, right?

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Just get the sampler, right?

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You just come to the restaurant, get the sampler, right?

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One of everything.

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Platter of raw assorted meats.

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Mmm.

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These have four legs.

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This one, you decide.

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They don't tell you which one is the person.

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It's people.

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Noah's Restaurant is people.

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You guess the meat, you get it free.

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[laughter]

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How different do you think these "raw" meats taste compared to their fully cooked counterparts?

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Probably are pretty different, right?

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I feel like turkey and chicken cold cuts taste a lot different than...

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Only one way to find out, Leo.

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Guess so.

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Yeah, that's a good question.

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Does it denature when it cooks and so it changes the way that the protein tastes?

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Probably.

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And the fat too probably renders a little different.

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I guess I should have tried this one out before pitching it.

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Is this why you're just, I'm not sure you'd be with us tonight.

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I think it's a different kind of sickness that you get.

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Not a cold.

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Sorry, I got a cold from eating raw chicken.

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It was cold.

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Don't think you did.

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It was cold.

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Yeah.

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Not sure that's how that works.

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All right.

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Who's up first this week?

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Leo.

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Leo never gets to go first.

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Let's do it Leo.

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What do you got this week?

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You say that every time I go first.

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I go first all the time.

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All right.

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So paper, you're not going to believe this.

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This is an E Ink idea.

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So paper books, the superior way.

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There's all kinds of studies that say that kids need to learn, uh, or that kids

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learn better if they're reading paper.

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If they're manipulating a piece of book, paper, paper, adults too.

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You increase reading comprehension, something about moving through the book.

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Right.

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Reading on a Kindle is convenient.

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You get all of the click to tap a word and you get its definition and you have a

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million books in your pocket, all that stuff.

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So I'm imagining a Rolodex of six, eight flexible E Ink screens that are in a

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spiral shape and you flip from page to page and all it has to do is track what

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page you're on and it's an infinite number of pages, right?

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So you can just go around and get that motion and have the proceeding through a

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book feeling, but you're just looping through over and over again, you're using

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the same 6, 8, 10, 12, 20 pages over and over again and they're just changing in

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the background when they're not exposed to you. I don't know what to call this

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again. I have E Ink Rolodex book written down. Pitch. That's a green friendly idea

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right? Maybe. I don't know how toxic making books are. Books are terrible for the environment, just cutting

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down trees to make them. Tree is famously finite. Let's get more lithium. Let's get some

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Liquid crystals and lithium on this bitch, yeah.

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Yeah.

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I love how you have an idea for--

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you have a lot of e-ink ideas, but this one's like,

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I want even more e-ink in one idea.

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How many can we have in one?

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The Pimp My Ride, I heard you like e-ink screens, so--

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Put an e-ink screen next to an e-ink screen.

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Well, flexible displays are starting to become a thing.

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And it does seem like a really fun use for it,

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whether it be a color LCD, like a traditional thing,

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or something a little bit more paper-like, right?

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You get your infinite book.

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Imagine writing on one of these if it was a touch screen.

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Wouldn't that be fun?

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You got your like spiral-bound notebook

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that you're taking in classes.

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Flip, flip, flip, flip, flip, flip.

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Oh, there it is.

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And maybe there is a button on the touch screen

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that'll let you jump 50 pages ahead or whatever,

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but you still get the satisfaction if you want it.

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- Dude, you're onto something, Leo,

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'cause I feel like I remember

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like the location of certain things in textbooks.

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- Yeah.

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- And sometimes you're like doing the page flip thing

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quickly scrolling and looking for that image or like,

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oh, I remember it's kind of like around here

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and then you slow down and then speed up.

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Like you'd have to get that experience.

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Like you just bend the page a little bit, right?

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It makes, if it makes a sound,

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but then also flips through those pages really quickly

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or slowly, that would be, that would change.

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People would buy it then for sure, you know?

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- I like the writing into it too.

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I'm picturing like Tom Riddle's diary from the second Harry Potter where you just, you know, you have some...

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Yeah, chat GPT, you're writing into it and it's talking back to you like a book. That's cool. I could see

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actual books being sold with you just open it and it's just an E-Ink display if they get cheap enough instead of printing a whole

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book. Then the second half of the book is DLC, you gotta pay for it to unlock it.

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You gotta pay for the ending.

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Subscription.

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Or watch an ad.

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It's a dynamic targeted ad in my book.

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You're a fan of the Detroit Lions.

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Like, fucking book, how did you know that?

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I think the textbook version of this would be really nice.

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Right?

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Like, I remember in high school when you had to, like, carry all your textbooks around.

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It'd be nice to replace that.

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I like the idea.

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I'm trying to picture the UI of flipping through lots of pages.

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And you can imagine if you've only got, you know, ten slightly thicker than paper pages,

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that wouldn't work super great but what if you could grab the top and turn and

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it's one page or grab the middle and it's ten pages and grab the bottom and

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turn and it's like 50 you could like hop through it that way wouldn't that be

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fun yeah or like there's gotta be some other way to skip around quickly maybe

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haptic feedback so you start to bend it or pull it

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Yes, that's a patent that somebody probably already is I

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Don't I don't think this is no gadget exist

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I think there's one human on earth that would buy this gadget if it existed it was me, so I don't know

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Engineering yeah

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You're making me think about books with smells now -

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So I go to that page my CPAP machine just starts pumping

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People talk about like they like the smell of books. You need to have a scent pod for your your Kindle for sure.

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Smells like old books. Yeah

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That's a good idea. Each chapter has its own smell. Old librarians like it's just not the same. Old books

446
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just have a smell. You're like shut up grandpa. I have it right here. Spritz spritz spritz. Even has your smell in it.

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(laughing)

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- Russell, what do you got for us this week?

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- All right, so I was thinking about,

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my dad got a drone, and I'm like,

451
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oh, I haven't thought about drones in a while.

452
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- That's not true.

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What are you talking about?

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(laughing)

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- I haven't thought about like startup drones.

456
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Well, I guess you're right.

457
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There's probably been a couple.

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(laughing)

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- Okay.

460
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- The most recent thought though I had was,

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you can fly a drone.

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I think up-- and you know this, maybe, Leo, better than I do--

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the 400 feet limit, right?

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I thought it was meters, but yeah, it could be feet.

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I don't remember.

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It doesn't matter.

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Yeah.

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Whatever it is--

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Pretty low.

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We're in the US.

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We don't know what a meter is.

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It's probably feet.

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And then I got into gliders for a minute.

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So anyways, I'm trying to create planes that

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can carry 55-pound packages, like small air drones.

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And all they do is carry a package.

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And you just send it across the waves,

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and you have the last mile problem solved a little bit.

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So if you think about Amazon, they

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have probably one warehouse facility in a major city.

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And they send all their trucks to it,

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and then send the last miles, like the last 20 miles

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to get that package.

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What if you shorten that even further

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by having these hub and spokes of,

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on top of multiple different commercial buildings,

487
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you have these drone planes that are gliders

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that can throw, like, that basically you send them,

489
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maybe a little solar power action, all right?

490
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- No, man, I want a freaking rail gun up there.

491
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I don't want it launching these guys off.

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- Well, you can travel, I guess the limit

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is 100 miles per hour, too.

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So, like, you can send planes back and forth

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underneath 400 meters, just package after package,

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like screw every Amazon truck on the road,

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just like have package deliveries.

498
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I feel like there are a lot of people

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that would pick up their packages

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if it was on their commute home

501
00:23:47,860 --> 00:23:50,020
or at their local post office, you know,

502
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,840
or you just send everything to your post office, right?

503
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:56,340
These drones just deliver packages nonstop, right?

504
00:23:56,360 --> 00:23:57,560
- The Timu aircraft carrier.

505
00:23:58,840 --> 00:23:59,320
(laughing)

506
00:23:59,580 --> 00:24:00,680
This is a genius idea.

507
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:03,400
(laughing)

508
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,360
And if you do, I don't know how,

509
00:24:06,260 --> 00:24:07,460
I don't know the physics of all this,

510
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:12,260
but if you have the right spring loaded drone sender,

511
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:13,840
on the top of the roof.

512
00:24:13,940 --> 00:24:14,300
- Railgun.

513
00:24:14,540 --> 00:24:16,060
- Yeah, whatever you just said,

514
00:24:16,120 --> 00:24:17,780
probably that'll be better than what I'm thinking.

515
00:24:18,660 --> 00:24:21,780
So it's just like, on the roof,

516
00:24:21,860 --> 00:24:24,440
some guy's just all day pulling back the drone,

517
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:25,500
sending the next one.

518
00:24:26,780 --> 00:24:28,180
- So Amazon's already doing this with

519
00:24:29,260 --> 00:24:30,720
direct to the consumer, right?

520
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,120
They're testing out your drones that'll

521
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,160
deliver to your backyard and stuff,

522
00:24:35,360 --> 00:24:36,300
like this kind of thing, right?

523
00:24:37,340 --> 00:24:40,500
You're saying that this is going to the tops of buildings?

524
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,940
I don't understand what's going from what to what.

525
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:44,980
I feel like that's not working well.

526
00:24:46,700 --> 00:24:51,660
So that would work from, let's say, it's the second mile,

527
00:24:51,980 --> 00:24:55,220
we'll say, from the Amazon warehouse in the major city

528
00:24:55,860 --> 00:24:58,140
to the local post office, and then

529
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,680
from the local post office to your house.

530
00:25:01,340 --> 00:25:04,720
That last literal mile is those small air drones,

531
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,160
but then before that, from the major hub,

532
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,460
you would send it maybe via these small packages.

533
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,740
You could get same day delivery

534
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,000
for all your packages a lot sooner,

535
00:25:18,580 --> 00:25:19,560
or a lot more effectively,

536
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:20,980
'cause we don't get a lot of same day

537
00:25:20,980 --> 00:25:22,340
out in our neck of the woods.

538
00:25:23,340 --> 00:25:24,880
And it probably would be better,

539
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,940
I mean, it'd be nice to have that option, right?

540
00:25:28,420 --> 00:25:29,660
And there's literally just an Uber driver

541
00:25:29,980 --> 00:25:30,960
sitting at the post office

542
00:25:31,120 --> 00:25:33,200
waiting for the next Amazon drone

543
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,980
to fly in from the Grand Rapids at 100 miles per hour.

544
00:25:37,020 --> 00:25:38,220
And yeah, and you know what?

545
00:25:38,220 --> 00:25:39,820
I saw these planes, like,

546
00:25:40,220 --> 00:25:42,360
they're, a long, long time ago,

547
00:25:42,420 --> 00:25:44,740
they delivered medicine across,

548
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:45,700
you know what I'm talking about?

549
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:46,760
There's like some video. - Yep, in Africa.

550
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:47,720
Yeah.

551
00:25:48,020 --> 00:25:50,320
- Why don't we have that doing that for these packages?

552
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:51,360
You know what I mean?

553
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:52,960
That's just, that's just it.

554
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,040
We're America, land of innovation,

555
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,900
And here we are driving our packages around.

556
00:25:59,400 --> 00:25:59,740
Yeah.

557
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:01,480
They get life-saving medicine.

558
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,240
I want my Crock-Pot the same way.

559
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:04,460
That's not fair.

560
00:26:05,620 --> 00:26:07,240
They're in sub-Saharan Africa.

561
00:26:08,120 --> 00:26:09,020
They got it too good.

562
00:26:11,580 --> 00:26:14,560
Leo, thank you for being--

563
00:26:14,740 --> 00:26:15,180
[LAUGHTER]

564
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:17,660
They've got a lot of parodies.

565
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,540
But I mean, that technology is already available.

566
00:26:20,740 --> 00:26:22,840
Then why can't I just ship my Crock-Pot that way?

567
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:26,340
All right, another way to do this too

568
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,200
is if I wanted to send a package next day,

569
00:26:28,420 --> 00:26:30,140
if you guys want to have a throwback,

570
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,020
what was it where you had the highway?

571
00:26:32,420 --> 00:26:34,000
I was just about to say this.

572
00:26:34,140 --> 00:26:36,640
Yes, this seems like the next natural extension

573
00:26:36,710 --> 00:26:37,620
to the highway thing.

574
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,460
Yes, that's the one you're about to say that.

575
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:40,880
All right, refresh us.

576
00:26:41,120 --> 00:26:44,220
It was like hitchhiking your packages

577
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,140
from one rest area to the next area.

578
00:26:47,500 --> 00:26:49,200
And you got paid as you drive.

579
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:50,620
'Cause like, if you have room in your trunk,

580
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:52,420
why not ship something,

581
00:26:52,940 --> 00:26:55,660
add, fill the millions of cars on the road

582
00:26:55,900 --> 00:26:57,460
with logistical boxes.

583
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,840
And then the next rest area you go to, you drop it off.

584
00:27:02,100 --> 00:27:03,100
And you just figure out how to--

585
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,160
But yeah, you would fill those boxes

586
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,920
with those small planes that are just dropping packages.

587
00:27:11,110 --> 00:27:13,300
- I like the idea of being able to sit in my backyard

588
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,440
with like a baseball, tossing it up in the air,

589
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,440
trying to hit a 100 mile an hour flying crock pot

590
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,140
out of the air, all into the backyard.

591
00:27:22,300 --> 00:27:25,200
Like package thieving just got a whole lot.

592
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:30,140
It was going to my neighbor, but I, uh, I shot it down with my nerf gun.

593
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:36,080
I don't want to get pulled over with like 50 little airplanes in the back of my car.

594
00:27:37,220 --> 00:27:38,740
What, uh, what are you doing?

595
00:27:39,780 --> 00:27:40,140
No, I swear.

596
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:41,320
I don't know what's in any of those.

597
00:27:42,460 --> 00:27:43,280
I don't even know.

598
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:44,480
Put them in the back of my car.

599
00:27:44,620 --> 00:27:45,940
It's they're not, it's not mine.

600
00:27:45,940 --> 00:27:47,640
I'm just holding it for a company.

601
00:27:49,460 --> 00:27:53,920
How many trucks go from like Grand Rapids to Holland?

602
00:27:54,470 --> 00:27:55,080
Do you know what I mean?

603
00:27:55,410 --> 00:28:02,560
Why not get four semis or a hundred little drone planes to go back and forth to

604
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:07,300
deliver that all night, all day, just same flight path, you know?

605
00:28:07,900 --> 00:28:10,580
I think you should go directly from the ship.

606
00:28:10,910 --> 00:28:14,220
It just pulls up in the Harbor, starts launching the planes out.

607
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:16,340
Direct delivery to your house.

608
00:28:16,340 --> 00:28:18,540
Remember that Amazon render of a blimp?

609
00:28:18,650 --> 00:28:19,300
The carrier.

610
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:25,500
The dystopian blimp carrier that had packages in it and drones descending out of it from a throne.

611
00:28:25,500 --> 00:28:26,640
Playing Rite of the Valkyrie.

612
00:28:27,419 --> 00:28:27,820
[Humming]

613
00:28:29,380 --> 00:28:34,220
Is that crazy? I guess people would just be like, "Oh, that's so- the aesthetic is so bad."

614
00:28:34,220 --> 00:28:37,600
But like, "Dang, that's so convenient."

615
00:28:37,900 --> 00:28:41,500
Like, throw the blimps up in the air, man. Let them fly.

616
00:28:41,580 --> 00:28:45,640
Yeah, I guess it's just- it's just- it's just the vibes, huh?

617
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,500
So you have people that are in countries that haven't been exposed to modern warfare.

618
00:28:48,540 --> 00:28:58,440
they hear "Eee" and they're like "Oh, my crockpot!" Meanwhile, PTSD strikes the refugee.

619
00:28:58,560 --> 00:28:59,260
Too soon.

620
00:29:01,100 --> 00:29:04,060
It's so true though, it's probably like terrifying.

621
00:29:04,060 --> 00:29:08,020
Drones! We love those. We've only ever had positive association with drones.

622
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:09,680
[Drone music]

623
00:29:13,300 --> 00:29:15,020
Alright Scott, what do you got for us?

624
00:29:15,540 --> 00:29:19,780
I also would like to riff off of one of our oldies this week.

625
00:29:20,180 --> 00:29:22,960
I want Corporate Espionage 2.0.

626
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,060
I've got a new take on this ever since an offsite

627
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,080
that Noah and I went last week.

628
00:29:28,540 --> 00:29:31,340
So in the original idea, we had company A

629
00:29:31,500 --> 00:29:33,800
would train an employee and get them hired

630
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,600
inside of company B, where there would be a mole

631
00:29:36,660 --> 00:29:39,620
and quietly steer business back to company A.

632
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,100
So like you have a software vendor

633
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,580
that plants someone at a different company's IT department

634
00:29:44,580 --> 00:29:47,200
And this new IT employee just always seems to recommend

635
00:29:47,540 --> 00:29:49,580
their former employee's software tools.

636
00:29:50,110 --> 00:29:53,540
All right, so 2.0 version is Noah and I

637
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,580
were just at this company-wide offsite all week.

638
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,360
It was an entire company, one hotel, conference room,

639
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,540
seminars, three meals a day, like that whole thing.

640
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,360
But during this, we're talking about the state

641
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,180
of the company, strategies, roadmaps,

642
00:30:06,700 --> 00:30:10,160
all of it that were behind doors that were just doors.

643
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,120
There was no badges, there's no checkpoints,

644
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:12,860
there's nothing.

645
00:30:13,460 --> 00:30:16,500
So anyone, like even direct competition,

646
00:30:16,740 --> 00:30:17,920
could have just walked in.

647
00:30:18,660 --> 00:30:22,920
So could we take someone in like a casual business outfit

648
00:30:23,140 --> 00:30:26,680
or like a server uniform, a decent cover story,

649
00:30:26,750 --> 00:30:28,620
who could just like nurse a cup of coffee

650
00:30:28,740 --> 00:30:30,780
for three hours a day for a week

651
00:30:31,020 --> 00:30:32,500
and just listen in that room?

652
00:30:33,060 --> 00:30:34,640
And like, nobody would have blinked at that.

653
00:30:34,660 --> 00:30:35,780
No one knew anyone there.

654
00:30:36,780 --> 00:30:38,340
So that's the whole idea this week.

655
00:30:38,420 --> 00:30:41,700
An agency where you can hire trained corporate spies

656
00:30:41,700 --> 00:30:44,380
specifically to infiltrate your competition.

657
00:30:44,460 --> 00:30:45,100
- Conference center.

658
00:30:45,690 --> 00:30:46,500
- At public events.

659
00:30:47,100 --> 00:30:48,360
I guess it wasn't even a public event,

660
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:49,260
it was a private event.

661
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,180
- Is that George Clooney in the corner?

662
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:52,200
(laughing)

663
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:54,960
Are we being Ocean's Eleven'd right now?

664
00:30:55,390 --> 00:30:56,800
- It's an impersonator, just ignore him.

665
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,340
- So the startup idea is a crime.

666
00:30:59,940 --> 00:31:00,300
(laughing)

667
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:00,780
- Yes.

668
00:31:00,850 --> 00:31:01,380
- Is he a crime?

669
00:31:01,380 --> 00:31:03,220
- Well, here's the thing, how illegal is this?

670
00:31:04,020 --> 00:31:05,480
- What I was gonna say is, well,

671
00:31:06,060 --> 00:31:07,040
yeah, I don't know the answer to that question.

672
00:31:07,060 --> 00:31:08,560
- The startup idea is a crime.

673
00:31:09,220 --> 00:31:16,180
I wonder, I've been to several different events that are like several day long

674
00:31:17,260 --> 00:31:21,480
software vendors hosting, here's our roadmap, here's what you need to know.

675
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:26,220
Customers of our company come to our big event in a big conference center somewhere.

676
00:31:26,710 --> 00:31:32,980
I wonder how many of those are equally poorly guarded that you could have like

677
00:31:33,300 --> 00:31:38,160
your company as a broker to get the secrets of your competitors

678
00:31:38,500 --> 00:31:39,840
by going to those events.

679
00:31:40,980 --> 00:31:42,920
Can you sit in the back and just overhear

680
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,100
what that company's roadmap is and feed that back?

681
00:31:45,340 --> 00:31:46,920
See, and you can--

682
00:31:46,940 --> 00:31:48,920
this is a third party company that

683
00:31:49,220 --> 00:31:52,940
says we will get you information that you can't find online.

684
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:54,760
That's all you know.

685
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,820
And what their special talent is, that social engineering--

686
00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:02,980
Just being really boring in public, unnoticeable.

687
00:32:03,060 --> 00:32:03,280
Yeah.

688
00:32:03,900 --> 00:32:06,520
They're recording all those events.

689
00:32:06,690 --> 00:32:09,240
They got little phone taking--

690
00:32:09,300 --> 00:32:11,100
they just look like one of the audience members.

691
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,100
They take out their phone and take a picture of the slides,

692
00:32:14,620 --> 00:32:16,380
but also happen to be recording the whole thing.

693
00:32:16,860 --> 00:32:19,700
That's 80% of data collection.

694
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:24,540
And then your agency then would process it and provide you

695
00:32:24,700 --> 00:32:25,060
the--

696
00:32:25,100 --> 00:32:25,780
The price point?

697
00:32:26,420 --> 00:32:26,960
The information.

698
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:28,020
Well, the information.

699
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,380
And you as the company are like, I

700
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:31,920
don't know how you got this information,

701
00:32:32,060 --> 00:32:34,620
but thank you, and you have the plausible deniability

702
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,200
as corporate A, right?

703
00:32:37,540 --> 00:32:38,780
I didn't send a guy there.

704
00:32:38,860 --> 00:32:40,860
I just paid this agency to get me information,

705
00:32:40,940 --> 00:32:42,280
and they had some really good information.

706
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,740
Oh, well, they've been sending people on stage to--

707
00:32:47,020 --> 00:32:48,400
I didn't kill that guy.

708
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,380
I just hired a hitman, your honor.

709
00:32:52,100 --> 00:32:54,160
It's illegal somewhere in this train,

710
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:55,500
but I'm not sure at what part.

711
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:56,100
Same.

712
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:57,440
He won a truck.

713
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:58,740
I have a perfectly good alibi.

714
00:33:00,620 --> 00:33:02,640
So could you do insider trading using this?

715
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,940
Is it even insider trading if they don't have security?

716
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:06,700
Like if they don't protect themselves,

717
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:08,560
it's technically a public event,

718
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:09,720
anybody could have walked in there.

719
00:33:10,100 --> 00:33:12,120
- Short that stock, they just had a real bad event.

720
00:33:12,420 --> 00:33:13,340
Yeah, huh.

721
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:15,640
- The food was terrible,

722
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,240
the employees looked really unsatisfied.

723
00:33:18,059 --> 00:33:18,460
(laughing)

724
00:33:19,419 --> 00:33:20,640
They're not gonna make it.

725
00:33:22,940 --> 00:33:24,600
- Just put one of those like tablets,

726
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:26,300
how happy are you working at this company

727
00:33:26,460 --> 00:33:27,360
with the smiley faces?

728
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:29,940
And just leave it there and see what they say.

729
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:31,680
It's just like, they don't know why it's there.

730
00:33:32,140 --> 00:33:33,260
Nobody would say otherwise.

731
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,320
- And then blackmail those employees that raided before they.

732
00:33:36,700 --> 00:33:37,140
- Why not?

733
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:38,120
We've made it this far.

734
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:38,960
- Yep.

735
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:41,880
- Takes a picture of them each and every time.

736
00:33:42,060 --> 00:33:42,920
That is...

737
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:45,300
- What's it called?

738
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,540
- Corporate Espionage 2.0_final.

739
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:53,120
Dot doc X.

740
00:33:53,270 --> 00:33:53,840
You know what I mean?

741
00:33:54,980 --> 00:33:56,980
- It's implausible deniability, sir,

742
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:58,700
if you're gonna be selling these wares.

743
00:34:01,260 --> 00:34:08,139
Super great secrets for cheap. This is spy. This is like it's 007 you know

744
00:34:08,419 --> 00:34:11,720
it's gotta be like yeah they would have a handler and they would have the full

745
00:34:11,780 --> 00:34:19,020
agency behind them and a badge printer. Scott it'll be Scottie's angels.

746
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:22,300
Three spies.

747
00:34:23,790 --> 00:34:24,600
It's a honeypot.

748
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,340
Hey Scott, we're at the...

749
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:29,220
[laughter]

750
00:34:29,419 --> 00:34:29,820
[laughter]

751
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:33,620
In the corner very obviously.

752
00:34:34,660 --> 00:34:35,000
[laughter]

753
00:34:35,169 --> 00:34:38,600
Are those three beautiful models in spandex in the back?

754
00:34:38,679 --> 00:34:39,600
Of our engineering company.

755
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,100
They don't look like IT consultants.

756
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:42,060
[laughter]

757
00:34:43,139 --> 00:34:44,100
Well we don't care.

758
00:34:45,919 --> 00:34:49,560
Turns out techies are super easy to manipulate through traditional means.

759
00:34:50,100 --> 00:34:50,820
[laughter]

760
00:34:50,820 --> 00:34:51,200
(laughing)

761
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,340
- All right Noah, what do you got for us this week?

762
00:34:57,720 --> 00:34:59,540
- All right, so I have this problem

763
00:34:59,920 --> 00:35:04,100
where I will wait until the absolute last second

764
00:35:04,240 --> 00:35:04,780
to buy gifts.

765
00:35:05,700 --> 00:35:08,620
And it's not that I'm not necessarily thoughtful

766
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,860
about the gifts that I'm purchasing for these people,

767
00:35:12,140 --> 00:35:16,580
but my problem is mostly procrastination

768
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:17,740
until it's too late.

769
00:35:18,140 --> 00:35:21,680
And so what I need is to make these decisions well ahead of time.

770
00:35:22,240 --> 00:35:23,020
And I need something.

771
00:35:23,780 --> 00:35:24,800
I could even return things.

772
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:29,600
So what I need is a calendar that tracks all the birthdays, Christmases,

773
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,180
upcoming weddings, whatever it is, and just automatically is going to

774
00:35:33,240 --> 00:35:35,620
ship at least something, maybe one or two choices.

775
00:35:37,580 --> 00:35:41,420
So are you like adding cumulatively to this list over the, as you see

776
00:35:41,700 --> 00:35:43,880
something and then it takes care of the ordering later?

777
00:35:44,460 --> 00:35:44,560
Yeah.

778
00:35:44,660 --> 00:35:48,120
So I'm kind of seeing like a concierge setup where you do an initial

779
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:52,320
And we say so do you have you know parents and like?

780
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,760
When's when's the birthday as you find out all the information set a price limit for each person?

781
00:35:57,140 --> 00:35:58,280
You can be like this is a co-worker

782
00:35:59,380 --> 00:36:03,160
Don't want to spend very much on them. Just want to keep them happy and then we could get

783
00:36:03,820 --> 00:36:09,260
Automatically shipped in advance pre-packaged with my signature printed inside the card with a nice little message

784
00:36:09,780 --> 00:36:14,300
Trained on writing that I've done before so like of course. Yeah, it needs to be customized

785
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:19,400
Specifically to that person and from me. We all know all of our co-workers handwriting's of course

786
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,500
Only if you're a using Scott's Scotty's angels

787
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,880
Never forget your kid's birthday again, so this be perfect we can market to deadbeat dads

788
00:36:33,100 --> 00:36:39,460
Yes, pre-purchase. I like the auto return part - oh, yeah, you just it sends you a plethora like oh

789
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:44,040
I don't I want this one and all of them just go back on their own and get returned to Warby Parker

790
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:49,680
but gifts, right? You get four gifts sent to you and you just put it back in the box and...

791
00:36:50,260 --> 00:36:52,580
One of them is gonna hit, right? Out of the four.

792
00:36:53,220 --> 00:36:57,920
There's clothing companies that do this. This is, this is total, totally...

793
00:36:57,940 --> 00:36:58,500
Stitch fix.

794
00:36:58,840 --> 00:36:59,000
Yeah.

795
00:36:59,340 --> 00:37:00,800
We call it gift fix.

796
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:01,660
Gift fix.

797
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:02,900
That's good.

798
00:37:03,180 --> 00:37:03,920
Fix yourself.

799
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:06,480
Appear thoughtful.

800
00:37:08,820 --> 00:37:10,980
You end up just keeping half the stuff, you know.

801
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:16,500
Yeah, if you keep more than one item you get like a volume discount, so you encourage them to keep all of them.

802
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:20,800
Could this service like track, because you're putting in you want this at this point,

803
00:37:20,980 --> 00:37:22,640
and then you know sometime later you're gonna want it.

804
00:37:22,780 --> 00:37:28,200
Could this service buy when on sale and stock up in the inventory on Black Friday and

805
00:37:28,580 --> 00:37:31,980
track lowest price trends and all that kind of stuff too for you? You know what I mean?

806
00:37:32,540 --> 00:37:34,400
Now we're doing galaxy brain shopping.

807
00:37:34,780 --> 00:37:34,960
Yeah.

808
00:37:35,140 --> 00:37:39,180
I know that sometime between now and July I'm going to need this thing

809
00:37:39,820 --> 00:37:46,320
Included in my next box or whatever. I'm gonna need a tie or socks for my uncle go

810
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:57,160
Does it stock them online golf related item look up just just use LinkedIn and nothing else

811
00:37:57,220 --> 00:38:02,500
It's the only info you're gonna get on these people and I'm gonna choose a gift based on that the instas

812
00:38:02,660 --> 00:38:02,800
Yeah

813
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:08,380
If you had an insta it's only gonna be based on like the highlights the people the things that people want you to see how easy

814
00:38:08,380 --> 00:38:13,680
is it to buy data for a specific person? Like is it all grouped into one thing or

815
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:17,700
can I be like I want to buy all of Russell's data to figure out what I

816
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:18,640
should get him for Christmas?

817
00:38:19,060 --> 00:38:20,020
That's a great question.

818
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:20,680
I don't know.

819
00:38:20,750 --> 00:38:21,340
Like brokers.

820
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:22,600
Who do I buy this from?

821
00:38:22,620 --> 00:38:23,120
Ad brokers.

822
00:38:23,860 --> 00:38:24,000
Yeah.

823
00:38:24,470 --> 00:38:30,640
I want to see all of the things that are powering the targeted advertisements for that person

824
00:38:30,670 --> 00:38:31,200
in my life.

825
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:31,840
Oh.

826
00:38:32,610 --> 00:38:32,700
Yeah.

827
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:36,400
That's interesting. I feel like I've seen like investigative journalism things where

828
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:42,240
they FOIA their own, you know, stuff but it never is. Yeah, private brokers and

829
00:38:42,380 --> 00:38:48,100
stuff. I think it's illegal now to get the real-time cell tower data but only

830
00:38:48,240 --> 00:38:52,260
as of the last like three years. Reply all on that. Which is pretty terrifying.

831
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:59,460
Not helpful for gift fix but still scary. I mean it could be. What would you do?

832
00:38:59,720 --> 00:39:04,020
Figure out where they are, figure out when they need it, you launch a T-Move, dive bomb.

833
00:39:04,020 --> 00:39:10,860
Mom always goes to that one masseuse or nail parlor, so here's a gift card or whatever.

834
00:39:11,420 --> 00:39:11,500
Yeah.

835
00:39:11,990 --> 00:39:13,480
Here, dad, here's your nail...

836
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:14,840
Your friend.

837
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:15,360
Her friend.

838
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,820
Dad, I know you're having an affair, so here's some gas money.

839
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:22,700
I bought your cell phone records.

840
00:39:25,420 --> 00:39:26,460
Yeah, that's what I meant.

841
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:28,900
I got you tickets to a Coldplay concert.

842
00:39:29,210 --> 00:39:30,940
I got you a consultation with a lawyer.

843
00:39:34,660 --> 00:39:39,980
Well, have you heard of the, I guess, Target knew that a guy's daughter was pregnant before

844
00:39:39,980 --> 00:39:40,340
he did.

845
00:39:40,460 --> 00:39:41,540
Have you guys heard about this before?

846
00:39:41,900 --> 00:39:46,320
Like, the Target's data team started serving ads to a household because they were able

847
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,940
to figure out through the browsing activity of the daughter that she was pregnant.

848
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,860
So you probably could do this.

849
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:57,880
In fact, let's ship the gift regardless if you haven't paid for it or not.

850
00:39:58,440 --> 00:39:59,540
And we'll come collect it later.

851
00:39:59,780 --> 00:40:00,820
Congrats on your new baby.

852
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:02,720
What is this? Yeah, there you go.

853
00:40:03,780 --> 00:40:06,260
Signed. Send us 25 bucks. You just have to

854
00:40:07,500 --> 00:40:12,660
You just have to agree ahead of time that it will handle all of it and then gifts start just popping out

855
00:40:13,420 --> 00:40:16,440
With yours signed by you. That's awful. Never empty-handed

856
00:40:17,340 --> 00:40:22,740
Ever. Never empty-handed dot-com. What about what about like a turnstile like a locker?

857
00:40:23,580 --> 00:40:30,200
That's in your building filled with various gifts so we can have just like air pods like common stuff

858
00:40:30,720 --> 00:40:37,300
PS5 controller, I don't know backup but like anchor power bank or whatever describing this airport vending machines

859
00:40:38,340 --> 00:40:40,100
Yeah, but they're they're wrapped

860
00:40:43,300 --> 00:40:45,400
With a heartfelt note about how much

861
00:40:47,180 --> 00:40:48,260
Appreciate the friendship

862
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:02,560
No, no you idiot your signature is in your account and it prints it on fly and delivers it

863
00:41:02,940 --> 00:41:06,880
No, I gotta go old school. Yeah, the auto pen the auto pen

864
00:41:09,599 --> 00:41:12,160
Honestly, I love the idea of a red box

865
00:41:12,420 --> 00:41:13,300
It's always a red box

866
00:41:13,460 --> 00:41:18,080
But we'll just have one that you put an item in and it just wraps it for you and spits it out right away

867
00:41:18,380 --> 00:41:21,760
Can you do my clothes? I'll just bring a box of laundry. Why not?

868
00:41:24,240 --> 00:41:30,600
Why are you wrapping your clothing are you gonna give it to the folding it individually wrapped up tear into a nice t-shirt today?

869
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,280
Sometimes I just wrap my own stuff to feel something

870
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,900
There's like so many like bags of nuts, you know

871
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:49,060
Like consumable foods that are just like I should just buy these regularly just to maybe make them into gifts and worst-case scenario

872
00:41:49,180 --> 00:41:51,880
I I keep them right? There's probably some

873
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:58,540
Description service but like yeah, the pre-wrapped stuff is just like you have 20 bags

874
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:04,620
They start you with here your first package comes with 20 bags with tissue paper wrap it yourself

875
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:06,240
All right, like you know

876
00:42:06,260 --> 00:42:11,720
But then but you get you get stuff all the time and they're all made to be gifts or you just keep them

877
00:42:12,340 --> 00:42:14,320
super simple MVP of that

878
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:19,360
I think would be like sure like I'm looking at a bag of pistachios right now and I'm like

879
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,619
I could have totally saved that as a gift, but instead I'm eating it

880
00:42:23,720 --> 00:42:25,180
- Pistachios are individually wrapped,

881
00:42:25,420 --> 00:42:26,820
so it goes along with the theme perfectly.

882
00:42:27,700 --> 00:42:28,100
(laughing)

883
00:42:32,380 --> 00:42:34,540
- Write my name on each one of those.

884
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:36,520
Wow, you wrote your name on all those?

885
00:42:36,620 --> 00:42:38,200
Yup, I care that much about you.

886
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:40,960
That's how much I care about you.

887
00:42:41,500 --> 00:42:43,660
- Two on one half of the shell, from on the other.

888
00:42:46,340 --> 00:42:50,080
Pistachio fortune cookies, lasered onto the pistachio,

889
00:42:50,180 --> 00:42:52,320
And then we reassemble it back into the shell.

890
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:53,520
(laughing)

891
00:42:54,460 --> 00:42:55,340
It's natural.

892
00:42:55,980 --> 00:42:57,720
You can get like the Declaration of Independence.

893
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,280
- How do you laser a pistachio?

894
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:02,420
- It's very exciting.

895
00:43:02,430 --> 00:43:03,620
- I want 15 fortunes today, all right?

896
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,780
- Well, dear listener, thank you very much for listening.

897
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:09,160
We hope you enjoyed yourself.

898
00:43:09,540 --> 00:43:13,300
If you have us on while scrambling to find something

899
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,620
for the upcoming Mother's and/or Father's Day,

900
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:16,820
we appreciate you.

901
00:43:17,140 --> 00:43:17,640
Thanks for listening.

902
00:43:18,060 --> 00:43:20,000
And thank you very much, Noah, for being on.

903
00:43:20,060 --> 00:43:20,660
This was great.

904
00:43:20,940 --> 00:43:22,280
- Likewise, thank you guys for having me.

905
00:43:22,340 --> 00:43:23,100
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906
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,400
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907
00:43:25,580 --> 00:43:27,160
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908
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:28,060
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909
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,240
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910
00:43:30,420 --> 00:43:31,780
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911
00:43:31,980 --> 00:43:33,220
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912
00:43:33,420 --> 00:43:34,580
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913
00:43:35,060 --> 00:43:36,480
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914
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915
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916
00:43:39,240 --> 00:43:41,480
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917
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:43,660
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918
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:45,860
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919
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:47,300
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920
00:43:47,420 --> 00:43:52,700
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921
00:43:52,720 --> 00:43:54,520
trinkets and stuff and you're like, "Why?

922
00:43:54,790 --> 00:43:55,640
I didn't even do anything.

923
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:57,980
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924
00:43:57,980 --> 00:43:59,440
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925
00:43:59,610 --> 00:44:00,480
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926
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927
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928
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929
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