1 00:00:04,679 --> 00:00:08,040 I'm Scott, I'm Russell, I'm Leo, this is Spitball. 2 00:00:16,759 --> 00:00:20,920 Welcome to Spitball where three board game bros and a guest empty our heads of startup 3 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:25,020 and tech product ideas that we have stuck up in there so you can all have them for free. 4 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:26,480 Anything that we say is yours to keep. 5 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:29,480 And this week I have the delight of bringing our guest. 6 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:31,220 This week we have our good friend, Ryan. 7 00:00:31,420 --> 00:00:34,380 Ryan has been a longtime friend of all three of ours. 8 00:00:34,780 --> 00:00:38,240 Ryan is a gaming aficionado more than anyone else 9 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:39,020 in my life. 10 00:00:39,100 --> 00:00:40,760 Board games, card games, video. 11 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,300 This man is a ranked Melee player. 12 00:00:44,480 --> 00:00:45,420 I don't know if that's still true, 13 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:46,960 but you've definitely won tournaments before. 14 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,920 You're a world traveler and a summer boarder 15 00:00:51,060 --> 00:00:53,180 and a teacher in a past life. 16 00:00:53,460 --> 00:00:54,880 We are so excited to have you here. 17 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:56,340 Ryan, welcome to Spitball. 18 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:57,680 Hey, thanks for having me. 19 00:00:57,820 --> 00:00:58,600 I'm excited to be here. 20 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:00,400 This is going to be a great time. 21 00:01:01,300 --> 00:01:02,820 All right, this week to get us started, 22 00:01:02,980 --> 00:01:04,879 I have a game that I'm going to call High Stakes. 23 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:09,560 So in this one, I was looking through like Board Game Geek 24 00:01:09,660 --> 00:01:13,420 and other research about board games and card games. 25 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:14,860 I don't know a ton about that world. 26 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:16,540 I'm not very good at learning new games, 27 00:01:16,780 --> 00:01:17,620 as Ryan will attest. 28 00:01:17,740 --> 00:01:20,420 But some of these games, especially the indie stuff, 29 00:01:20,500 --> 00:01:21,700 have wacky names. 30 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,340 So in this game, I'm going to give you a name. 31 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,020 And you have to tell me if it's either a board or card game 32 00:01:27,180 --> 00:01:28,740 or a strain of cannabis. 33 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,700 So if I said, for example, herbaceous. 34 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:34,720 Is herbaceous a card or board game? 35 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:36,660 You would all say, of course, that's a card game. 36 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,840 It's a casual card game where players collect herbs 37 00:01:40,140 --> 00:01:41,560 and stuff from their communal garden. 38 00:01:41,960 --> 00:01:42,460 I'm sure Ryan-- 39 00:01:42,460 --> 00:01:43,080 - I own that one. 40 00:01:43,540 --> 00:01:44,280 - Yeah, I figured you would. 41 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:46,120 This is gonna be a good time. 42 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:47,700 - Ryan, how many board games do you own? 43 00:01:47,700 --> 00:01:48,400 - How many board games? 44 00:01:48,860 --> 00:01:49,900 Right around 900. 45 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:51,440 - 900. 46 00:01:51,930 --> 00:01:52,020 - 900. 47 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:52,680 - Yeah. 48 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:57,920 850 and a lot of them are print and play right that's so cool Wow 49 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:03,900 Almost four digits. That's why I wrote this game for you. I think you're gonna know every one of these so let's kick it off 50 00:02:03,940 --> 00:02:05,100 with you Ryan 51 00:02:06,380 --> 00:02:08,520 splendor card game board game or 52 00:02:09,399 --> 00:02:14,760 Definitely board game. Yeah, it's a gem trading engine building game. You knew that it's actually a game 53 00:02:15,640 --> 00:02:18,140 You know that I know that one. Yeah. Oh nice 54 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:24,200 Scott nine pound hammer. Oh, it's definitely a strong indica. It's exactly 55 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:34,080 No, we're not gonna incriminate it's still federally right and I'm gonna be good at this for different reasons 56 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:44,580 Russell train wreck all one word. It sounds that's weed. Yeah legendary sativa dominant hybrid 57 00:02:44,790 --> 00:02:46,700 Very good sounds like weed 58 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:54,540 Ryan spirit Island definitely a board game. Yes. It is cooperative strategy. Have you heard of that one popular co-op? Yeah? 59 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:00,480 Maybe this is gonna be super easy Scott forbidden fruit 60 00:03:00,820 --> 00:03:06,980 I'm gonna guess board game on that one indica dominant strain famous for deep purple buds 61 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:12,459 The forbidden series is like a great set of I don't like I heard that forbidden Island 62 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,120 Well, they don't have forbidden fruit yet. I 63 00:03:16,640 --> 00:03:21,760 Did some searching to make sure none of these were in both categories and I actually had to rule a couple of them out. Yeah 64 00:03:23,100 --> 00:03:23,520 Russell 65 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:30,760 Wingspan all one word. It's got that's gotta be a board game plane plane board game like a plane 66 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:36,760 It is but it's for bird enthusiasts themed. Yeah attracting birds to wildlife preserves 67 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:40,480 It is crazy how many people have gotten into orthology for that one? 68 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:45,760 We I've definitely played that one either at a manuary maybe or at Scott's. 69 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:45,940 Yeah. 70 00:03:46,420 --> 00:03:46,860 Oh, excellent. 71 00:03:47,100 --> 00:03:48,460 One more time through Ryan. 72 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:49,620 Golden goat. 73 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:52,100 That's gotta be weed. 74 00:03:52,460 --> 00:03:53,600 It is very good. 75 00:03:53,740 --> 00:03:55,480 Happy uplifted hybrid strain. 76 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:57,860 Scott Everdell. 77 00:03:58,300 --> 00:03:59,340 That's gotta be a board game. 78 00:04:00,300 --> 00:04:01,140 Why do you know that? 79 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:02,720 It is a board game. 80 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:10,460 Stunning worker placement game set of Valley of Woodland Creatures and Russell 81 00:04:10,460 --> 00:04:16,540 Scythe. S-C-Y-T-H-E. I can't imagine like you oh yeah you want to smoke some scythe? 82 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:22,720 I'm gonna guess some board game. Excellent very good. Engine building area 83 00:04:22,840 --> 00:04:27,320 control game set in 1920s Europe. Well dang that was apparently way too easy 84 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:31,120 and I wouldn't have known any of those. I think everyone except for one of them 85 00:04:31,180 --> 00:04:35,600 they were all right. Well done everybody. Who wants to kick us off this week? I 86 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:39,300 can go this week. Do it. What do you got for us this week? All right half-baked idea 87 00:04:39,300 --> 00:04:42,060 that I think I'm gonna win one of the awards at the end of the series for this 88 00:04:42,140 --> 00:04:47,200 one. Heck yeah. Mostly out of... You mean a Spitball award, right? Yes, a Spitball 89 00:04:47,420 --> 00:04:52,260 award for most likely to get you hurt. The best guide. Okay. I've been striving for that 90 00:04:52,340 --> 00:04:59,120 one ever since Russell took it last year. I recently learned my mom has bad 91 00:04:59,300 --> 00:05:03,480 insomnia. She will sleep for a couple of hours but then always at like 2-3 92 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:07,700 a.m. just wakes up and cannot go back to sleep and that has been 93 00:05:07,660 --> 00:05:10,340 plaguing her for a long time now. 94 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:17,120 And, but I also learned that driving really puts her to sleep in any form 95 00:05:17,260 --> 00:05:21,180 where if I am behind the wheel of a car, I immediately just want to conk out. 96 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,880 How can we use one to solve the other is my question tonight. 97 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:30,120 Can we create some kind of VR driving simulator or something to just put out 98 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:34,340 a person who can't sleep and your goal is just to make it X miles 99 00:05:34,370 --> 00:05:36,100 on here before passing out. 100 00:05:36,140 --> 00:05:40,220 You want to Pavlov people into getting used to trying to fall asleep at the wheel. 101 00:05:41,340 --> 00:05:41,840 Yes. 102 00:05:42,140 --> 00:05:46,620 Hence why this probably is going to get me sued at some point. 103 00:05:46,900 --> 00:05:47,500 Oh, excellent. 104 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:48,080 Okay. 105 00:05:48,300 --> 00:05:48,580 Okay. 106 00:05:49,060 --> 00:05:51,000 Well, whatever puts you to sleep. 107 00:05:51,050 --> 00:05:51,400 All right. 108 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:52,040 You know what I mean? 109 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:53,500 Whatever works. 110 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:57,180 Taylor Tomlinson had this, this happens to me sometimes. 111 00:05:57,210 --> 00:05:58,420 I just cannot fall asleep. 112 00:05:58,580 --> 00:06:03,200 And she has this whole sketch about how, when you can't fall asleep, 113 00:06:04,060 --> 00:06:07,340 She would always ask audience members, do you have any ideas to help? 114 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:08,100 Cause I've heard it all. 115 00:06:08,140 --> 00:06:08,700 I've read it all. 116 00:06:09,220 --> 00:06:12,440 And the only one that's ever stuck with her, and I swear to God, this works is. 117 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,580 Uh, you can't sleep, go lay in your bathroom floor for like 10 minutes, 118 00:06:16,840 --> 00:06:18,600 just lie down and that's it. 119 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:20,520 And then go back into your bed and you will pass out. 120 00:06:20,940 --> 00:06:24,700 And from what I understand, it's like, you're just on an uncomfortable spot, 121 00:06:25,060 --> 00:06:26,620 an uncomfortable, cold, hard floor. 122 00:06:26,890 --> 00:06:27,960 And you make it back to your bed. 123 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:29,280 You're like, oh my God, this is amazing. 124 00:06:29,740 --> 00:06:31,100 It works every time. 125 00:06:31,660 --> 00:06:33,420 That one still doesn't work for my mom though. 126 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,320 so let's go back to some driving. 127 00:06:35,740 --> 00:06:39,100 -She falls asleep while driving, not in the passenger seat or something. 128 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:40,280 -Correct. -Any of that. 129 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,720 -Physically driving, you just instinctively want to go to sleep. 130 00:06:43,840 --> 00:06:44,600 -Okay. -I get that. 131 00:06:44,820 --> 00:06:46,620 I definitely get the highway drowsiness for sure. 132 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:47,100 -Same. 133 00:06:47,580 --> 00:06:48,940 -I've never thought of weaponizing it. 134 00:06:49,900 --> 00:06:50,300 [laughter] 135 00:06:50,820 --> 00:06:52,480 -Utilizing it, not weaponizing it. 136 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:54,220 -Yes. -It all depends if you're on the road or not. 137 00:06:54,300 --> 00:06:59,620 -You're thinking what, like a VR headset and it gradually gets darker, 138 00:06:59,840 --> 00:07:00,519 so you're like-- 139 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:02,420 [laughter] 140 00:07:02,940 --> 00:07:03,300 (laughing) 141 00:07:04,090 --> 00:07:05,260 It's forcing you to sleep. 142 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:07,040 - Yeah, and then put it in a recliner. 143 00:07:07,220 --> 00:07:09,280 That'll just automatically tip you back when you're done. 144 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:11,460 - You fall asleep with it on. 145 00:07:12,740 --> 00:07:15,640 Eight hours later, you got the red raccoon face. 146 00:07:15,780 --> 00:07:16,200 Yeah, right. 147 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:18,080 - All right, I'm gonna go the expensive route. 148 00:07:18,140 --> 00:07:20,120 You know those giant sleep pods that they have 149 00:07:20,140 --> 00:07:22,420 with those cool startup places? 150 00:07:22,700 --> 00:07:24,080 They're like giant eggs. 151 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:28,240 You just put the right sound machine, right? 152 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:30,040 And maybe a little projector. 153 00:07:30,490 --> 00:07:32,400 You buy one of those and you get a projector 154 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,240 sound machine and it just, it's like that brown hum, 155 00:07:35,460 --> 00:07:37,100 that's brown noise hum or whatever, 156 00:07:37,860 --> 00:07:40,840 on top of this like, you know, flashing lights 157 00:07:40,940 --> 00:07:43,500 and like the little bit of the wobble, you know, 158 00:07:43,500 --> 00:07:45,180 you gotta somehow create that experience. 159 00:07:45,340 --> 00:07:46,080 - Rocking it asleep. 160 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,760 - Yeah, it's something about like holding yourself up 161 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,440 that you're just like, all right, I like this, right? 162 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,340 Something's keeping you, I think you need a little bit 163 00:07:54,340 --> 00:07:57,700 of that, right, somehow, like a wobble board 164 00:07:57,800 --> 00:07:59,260 on top of an egg. 165 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:01,220 And I'm just like, oh man. 166 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:05,220 - Yes, and I almost wonder if it's the fact 167 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:06,780 that I can't go to sleep right now 168 00:08:06,820 --> 00:08:08,000 is the reason why you're so tired 169 00:08:08,010 --> 00:08:09,060 and you wanna go to sleep. 170 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:09,480 - Yeah. 171 00:08:09,530 --> 00:08:10,860 - Is that, how do we-- 172 00:08:10,860 --> 00:08:11,840 - Reverse psychology there. 173 00:08:13,540 --> 00:08:15,780 - Could you, (laughs) 174 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:16,520 it's gonna sound crazy. 175 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:18,860 Could you just go in your car? 176 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:20,240 (laughs) 177 00:08:21,260 --> 00:08:21,940 - And sleep. 178 00:08:22,860 --> 00:08:23,300 (laughs) 179 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:24,940 - Drive to McDonald's. 180 00:08:27,140 --> 00:08:31,660 - You have a screen in front of your car in the garage 181 00:08:31,660 --> 00:08:33,880 that shows a highway on a loop. 182 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:35,440 - A projector, right? 183 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:36,640 - Just get a Tesla, man. 184 00:08:36,680 --> 00:08:39,979 Actually drive, and it'll just transfer over 185 00:08:40,260 --> 00:08:42,120 into self-driving mode and bring you back home. 186 00:08:42,620 --> 00:08:44,620 - The only way I can fall asleep is pretending 187 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,240 I'm eight years old in the backseat of my self-driving car. 188 00:08:49,660 --> 00:08:52,460 - Yeah, you don't wanna turn your car on by accident either 189 00:08:52,540 --> 00:08:54,000 while you're in the garage. 190 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:54,840 That's a bad, right? 191 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,880 - Yeah, I think being in the car is just one step too close 192 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:01,340 to being too familiar with that space, you know? 193 00:09:01,460 --> 00:09:03,180 This whole idea is one step too close. 194 00:09:03,340 --> 00:09:05,540 The next time you're just driving to work the next day, 195 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:06,740 you're going to conk out. 196 00:09:07,180 --> 00:09:09,320 Well, maybe it's quite the opposite. 197 00:09:09,580 --> 00:09:13,020 Maybe, because you're so rested during the-- 198 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:13,440 you know? 199 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,660 If you're up at 2 AM, and you're now driving to work, 200 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:18,920 and you're tired, maybe it's that. 201 00:09:19,020 --> 00:09:20,280 It's the trip home that is dangerous. 202 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:20,480 That's the reason why. 203 00:09:21,740 --> 00:09:22,000 Yep. 204 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:23,400 The end of the day one. 205 00:09:23,940 --> 00:09:25,780 I would love this for my kids. 206 00:09:26,010 --> 00:09:27,940 If you could somehow figure out how to-- 207 00:09:27,940 --> 00:09:31,500 Every child I think that I know can fall asleep in a car 208 00:09:32,140 --> 00:09:32,460 or fall asleep better in a car. 209 00:09:32,460 --> 00:09:35,760 - I was just thinking, how does the car sleeping thing get, 210 00:09:36,060 --> 00:09:37,320 yeah, sold to parents? 211 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:37,940 Yeah. 212 00:09:38,500 --> 00:09:40,380 - Dude, like all kids' car seats 213 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:42,280 have a little bit of a rocker in them. 214 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:43,480 I don't know if you could create 215 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:45,860 like an adult-sized version of that. 216 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:47,160 (laughing) 217 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:47,640 Okay? 218 00:09:48,500 --> 00:09:49,380 And like a little bit of a, 219 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,020 buckled in, and all of a sudden it just, 220 00:09:53,500 --> 00:09:53,820 (imitates car engine revving) 221 00:09:53,940 --> 00:09:55,400 just the sound of a car, 222 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:57,080 dark, 223 00:09:57,700 --> 00:10:00,460 Go in your basement, just like rocking. 224 00:10:01,140 --> 00:10:01,940 - Ah, that sounds fun. 225 00:10:02,100 --> 00:10:04,980 - It sounds like something everybody would have fun. 226 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:06,620 - I want to try this now. 227 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:08,700 - Oh, what about like those swings? 228 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,380 You can create a fully enclosed space 229 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,300 with like a hammock, like one of those hammocks 230 00:10:15,300 --> 00:10:16,000 or those swings. 231 00:10:16,460 --> 00:10:18,920 - Yeah, they're those like zero gravity chairs 232 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:19,660 or whatever, right? 233 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:20,940 They're kind of a swing. 234 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:22,100 - And a blinker to it. 235 00:10:22,300 --> 00:10:23,180 - Uh-huh, uh-huh. 236 00:10:23,500 --> 00:10:24,500 So how does this work? 237 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:26,700 You've got, you're proposing attaching 238 00:10:26,700 --> 00:10:29,580 some sort of steering column to the swing. 239 00:10:29,820 --> 00:10:31,640 -I don't know if the steering-- Well, I don't know. 240 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,880 Is the arms being upright on the steering wheel important? 241 00:10:35,020 --> 00:10:39,580 I think it's the sound, the movement, and the-- 242 00:10:39,580 --> 00:10:40,760 -The trying not to go to sleep. 243 00:10:40,780 --> 00:10:41,460 -Yes, I don't know. 244 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:45,200 I think there's an element of some focus there too, right? 245 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:46,320 -Yes. 246 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:51,860 -Something you need enough awareness of, but-- 247 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,320 -That makes so much sense actually, because when you're tired driving, 248 00:10:55,420 --> 00:10:57,180 It's like you can't not think about, 249 00:10:57,860 --> 00:10:59,260 like when you get starting to get tired, 250 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:00,860 you're focused on one thing. 251 00:11:00,860 --> 00:11:04,640 You can't think about all the other life stuff, right? 252 00:11:04,780 --> 00:11:06,120 So you're like, I gotta just stay in the lane. 253 00:11:06,340 --> 00:11:08,020 And then it's like the only thing that's keeping you awake. 254 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,160 I need anxiety in order to keep me awake, right? 255 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:12,480 (laughing) 256 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:14,020 - The fear of crashing. 257 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,540 - Yeah, or maybe like the other way around, 258 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:19,440 to keep you awake while driving, 259 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:21,800 is it just has a loop of all your anxiety 260 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:22,860 that plays on the radio? 261 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:24,440 Like if you're on your day, so you never. 262 00:11:24,860 --> 00:11:25,880 So now-- 263 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:27,020 Your mother never loved you. 264 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:31,260 Yeah, psychological warfare, OK. 265 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,080 Because we've got to solve the problem of when you're actually 266 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:34,560 driving. 267 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,580 So you save all the anxiety or the thoughts 268 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:38,920 for when you're driving. 269 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:39,880 You put in a tape. 270 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:41,880 And then-- 271 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:43,200 Put in a tape. 272 00:11:44,220 --> 00:11:44,740 Got to cardio again. 273 00:11:44,740 --> 00:11:45,960 Start going away with this. 274 00:11:46,300 --> 00:11:48,540 So you have a positive one for sleeping 275 00:11:48,680 --> 00:11:50,340 that'll help you sleep and a negative one 276 00:11:50,340 --> 00:11:51,280 that keeps you awake. 277 00:11:52,340 --> 00:11:52,820 Exactly. 278 00:11:53,380 --> 00:11:55,500 You just record yourself saying all the things 279 00:11:55,540 --> 00:11:57,280 that's on your mind and then you play it 280 00:11:57,340 --> 00:11:59,140 while you're driving so you can sleep 281 00:11:59,460 --> 00:12:00,420 because you just recorded it. 282 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:01,940 You're saving that for later. 283 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:02,760 You know what I mean? 284 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,080 You're just, "All right, I'm gonna save this for later." 285 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:06,080 (laughing) 286 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,840 While you strap into your VR headset and-- 287 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:11,600 - Right, yeah, right. 288 00:12:11,740 --> 00:12:12,160 - Your chair. 289 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:13,160 - I don't know about this one, bro. 290 00:12:14,399 --> 00:12:14,720 (laughing) 291 00:12:16,180 --> 00:12:18,460 - All right, I'm spitballing way off of my field. 292 00:12:18,740 --> 00:12:19,460 You know, this is-- 293 00:12:19,460 --> 00:12:20,280 - That's why we're here, man. 294 00:12:20,940 --> 00:12:27,080 I wonder if there's some kind of other task that's a lot simpler than operating a motor vehicle 295 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:31,920 that still requires concentration, that still is boring enough that like, 296 00:12:32,260 --> 00:12:34,040 "Hey, I just naturally want to go to sleep." 297 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:35,320 Working on an assembly line. 298 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:37,640 Yeah, or even simpler than that. 299 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:42,540 Like, I need to just look at something that will balance something on top of something else. 300 00:12:42,680 --> 00:12:45,560 Just by staring at it and focusing, it'll keep it balanced. 301 00:12:45,580 --> 00:12:47,160 It's the modernized counting sheep. 302 00:12:47,300 --> 00:12:47,720 Yeah, exactly. 303 00:12:49,060 --> 00:12:52,620 Sort something between red and blue piles or whatever, right? 304 00:12:52,780 --> 00:12:52,880 Yeah 305 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:53,400 Yeah 306 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:58,840 You just put like you just put like a bunch of cartoon animals you can count and it doesn't have to be fast-paced or anything 307 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:05,940 Right, you can just like have it slow or focus on this one thing the whole time and there's a lot of other stuff going 308 00:13:06,020 --> 00:13:11,120 On you can build a projector and just put this on the ceiling above your bed and you're just focused on that 309 00:13:11,220 --> 00:13:15,579 It's that way you're not staring at a screen. Yeah, that's a good point. You got the screen involved 310 00:13:15,580 --> 00:13:18,060 How do you get the screen out of this and make it analog? 311 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:18,700 Hmm. 312 00:13:19,199 --> 00:13:21,080 Like a mechanical device, right? 313 00:13:21,100 --> 00:13:24,140 Like what, whatever you're projecting, like, sure. 314 00:13:24,540 --> 00:13:28,400 Cause like red lights or the, you know, the orange lights or they say it's better, 315 00:13:28,560 --> 00:13:32,400 but you could go blue light at first and then it slowly, what is it? 316 00:13:32,500 --> 00:13:34,920 The app that like turns things yellow over time. 317 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:36,840 Flux flux. 318 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,760 And then it just slowly turns to black. 319 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:42,220 That might stress me out more. 320 00:13:42,540 --> 00:13:43,200 I'm noticing it. 321 00:13:43,380 --> 00:13:44,000 It's turning black. 322 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:44,720 Yeah, that's true. 323 00:13:45,020 --> 00:13:45,560 That's true. 324 00:13:45,970 --> 00:13:46,200 All right. 325 00:13:46,300 --> 00:13:46,960 Not that part. 326 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:47,560 Yeah. 327 00:13:47,820 --> 00:13:48,100 Yeah. 328 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:53,340 There's back when we did vital sleep headband, I learned that there's a way 329 00:13:53,460 --> 00:13:57,040 that you can tell if you're in a REM cycle by just like behind your ear. 330 00:13:57,620 --> 00:14:01,040 There's like a certain pressure or something on there that a sensor can 331 00:14:01,260 --> 00:14:03,740 tell that you are in a REM cycle or not. 332 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:05,920 And we were trying to use this for. 333 00:14:06,820 --> 00:14:09,980 Uh, this headband design we were working on, but like, I wonder if you could 334 00:14:10,050 --> 00:14:13,160 also have another piece of hardware on there and it incorporates, Hey, are you 335 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:13,720 asleep yet? 336 00:14:14,180 --> 00:14:16,020 I guess your smartwatch can tell you that now too, though. 337 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:21,100 I was thinking about a VR headset that slowly fed you Benadryl over time. 338 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:22,120 [laughter] 339 00:14:25,100 --> 00:14:27,080 Puts me into a medical-induced coma. 340 00:14:27,180 --> 00:14:30,460 Don't even need the Benadryl, man. Just take an IV. Just knock him out. 341 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:32,800 Just take an IV. Yeah. 342 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:34,460 Guys, we solved it. We did it. 343 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:35,840 [laughter] 344 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:37,500 It's the opposite of an EpiPen. 345 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,620 You don't need an anesthesiologist. You just need Benadryl. 346 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:47,500 All right, Russell, what do you got this week? 347 00:14:47,820 --> 00:14:51,540 All right, so in honor of Valentine's Day coming out 348 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:56,460 in the next couple of days, or whenever this comes out, 349 00:14:56,700 --> 00:14:59,200 I have a special love corner that I've been saving. 350 00:14:59,200 --> 00:14:59,700 Yeah! 351 00:15:00,420 --> 00:15:01,100 Cue the music! 352 00:15:14,060 --> 00:15:14,860 - All right, what do we got? - That's right. 353 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:15,260 - Let's hear it. 354 00:15:15,940 --> 00:15:16,600 - So-- - It's been a minute. 355 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,140 - Yeah, it's been a minute because I came up 356 00:15:19,300 --> 00:15:25,000 with this Love Corner idea November 7th of 2024, okay? 357 00:15:25,100 --> 00:15:25,440 - All right. 358 00:15:25,740 --> 00:15:26,700 - This is when it was logged. 359 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,980 And I think it ruined all my other Love Corner ideas 360 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,080 because this dating app. 361 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:36,700 So you have one, it's the last dating app 362 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:37,700 you'll ever need to download. 363 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:39,320 Because in this dating app, 364 00:15:39,740 --> 00:15:42,040 you have all the different variations 365 00:15:42,300 --> 00:15:44,360 of dating app available to you. 366 00:15:44,900 --> 00:15:47,000 And you can pick and choose and run through 367 00:15:47,180 --> 00:15:50,780 all these dating apps that the community creates and adds. 368 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:51,620 Right? 369 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,340 So for example, you have Farmers Only, 370 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:59,720 you have Christian Mingle, you have Coffee Meets Bagel, 371 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:03,119 all those different apps as templates 372 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,000 or themes that you can just pick and choose from 373 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:07,780 and you're just going through the dating pool 374 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:09,400 through those different versions, right? 375 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:14,180 So, I don't know, people who love rice. 376 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:16,740 Maybe somebody could make that one. 377 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:21,800 And literally, part of the app is making your own version 378 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:23,840 of like your own dating app. 379 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:24,720 - A dating app. 380 00:16:24,900 --> 00:16:26,460 It's like an algorithm marketplace. 381 00:16:27,500 --> 00:16:27,940 Oh. 382 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:28,760 - That's right. 383 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:30,760 And you can come up with like different questions 384 00:16:30,860 --> 00:16:32,240 need to be answered or. 385 00:16:32,620 --> 00:16:32,980 - Uh-huh. 386 00:16:33,260 --> 00:16:36,620 - Pictures or like your style or whatever makes sense. 387 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:38,100 That's all built in. 388 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:41,420 But now what's cool about this is there's a lot of people 389 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:43,560 that just go through the Tinder pool, 390 00:16:43,810 --> 00:16:46,220 they think they suck and then they move on 391 00:16:46,220 --> 00:16:49,220 and they just think, "Ah, online dating isn't for me." 392 00:16:49,220 --> 00:16:51,200 And then they never date anybody, right, ever again. 393 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:52,160 - Yeah, yeah, yeah. 394 00:16:52,260 --> 00:16:54,180 - This would give them more opportunities 395 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,340 to figure out what makes them work. 396 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,300 And it's, I think, I don't know much about dating apps, 397 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,340 but like you're churning through the same pool of people. 398 00:17:02,860 --> 00:17:03,100 Right? 399 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:05,540 And then at some point you get new people 400 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,000 that have never been on the dating app join in 401 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:11,360 and now everybody's like sharks to the feed, right? 402 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,100 Oh, 30 people just joined. 403 00:17:13,699 --> 00:17:14,439 Swipe, swipe, swipe, swipe, swipe. 404 00:17:14,699 --> 00:17:16,780 And now you're just like fresh meat, right? 405 00:17:16,980 --> 00:17:20,120 I don't know, but like now- 406 00:17:20,120 --> 00:17:21,880 - That's what they love to be called. 407 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:23,240 - Right? 408 00:17:23,260 --> 00:17:24,240 I guess like- 409 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:27,260 - Ladies love being fresh meat. 410 00:17:27,260 --> 00:17:27,400 - I guess that's it. 411 00:17:27,540 --> 00:17:30,680 - You're integrated with these other apps then? 412 00:17:30,780 --> 00:17:32,000 - Yeah, that's the part I don't understand. 413 00:17:32,050 --> 00:17:34,900 Am I pulling from Tinder and Bumble and stuff? 414 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:36,080 - You are the Walmart Bumble. 415 00:17:36,360 --> 00:17:37,460 - I got it, I'm with you, buddy. 416 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:39,560 This is like Roblox or whatever. 417 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:40,960 It's like a game creator. 418 00:17:41,580 --> 00:17:43,300 This is a, I go to the app 419 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,640 and I can either be a participant in a pool 420 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:46,740 or make my own pool. 421 00:17:46,860 --> 00:17:49,100 Like on here, I'm making my own, 422 00:17:49,420 --> 00:17:50,600 knock off of farmers only. 423 00:17:50,740 --> 00:17:52,160 And here's the three questions I ask 424 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,920 everyone who's joining my league, my pool, 425 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:57,200 my whatever, contenders. 426 00:17:57,340 --> 00:17:59,760 but you can be part of dozens of them in this one app. 427 00:18:00,180 --> 00:18:00,800 In one app. 428 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:02,100 Yeah, you can be-- 429 00:18:02,140 --> 00:18:02,260 Yeah. 430 00:18:02,500 --> 00:18:02,740 Got it. 431 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:06,560 And it's like a competition of marketplaces of, wow, 432 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,780 that algorithm is the number one on the leaderboard this week 433 00:18:09,980 --> 00:18:12,600 because it matched so many more people than everyone else. 434 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:13,900 Oh, I like that. 435 00:18:14,360 --> 00:18:17,340 Yeah, you're commoditizing the thing. 436 00:18:18,540 --> 00:18:19,120 This is great. 437 00:18:19,360 --> 00:18:21,700 Just different subreddits of I can date. 438 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:23,420 I can pick on this one. 439 00:18:23,500 --> 00:18:24,700 I can want to date through this one. 440 00:18:25,220 --> 00:18:25,620 Whoa. 441 00:18:26,060 --> 00:18:30,120 But the fact that you can have like your entrance questions, 442 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:33,480 your form questions and stuff that are what you need to, 443 00:18:33,660 --> 00:18:35,960 and then you customize the algorithm, oh, that's great. 444 00:18:36,540 --> 00:18:39,220 - I think too, it gives you like multiple chances 445 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:41,020 with the same person. 446 00:18:41,620 --> 00:18:43,580 I don't know if like, you see the part, 447 00:18:43,660 --> 00:18:45,540 like maybe when you're swiping on Tinder, 448 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,700 they don't look as good as they look on, 449 00:18:49,220 --> 00:18:51,100 I don't know, like on the other apps. 450 00:18:51,100 --> 00:18:52,780 - It's the same profile on everyone, man. 451 00:18:53,460 --> 00:18:55,020 - They use the same images, right? 452 00:18:55,180 --> 00:18:56,220 - Okay, yeah. 453 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:58,780 Well, maybe that's what part of the app has to do. 454 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,280 Like, that's where the marketplace will figure itself out. 455 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:02,360 - It modifies your images. 456 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:04,360 So in this one, I'm holding a bowl of rice. 457 00:19:05,900 --> 00:19:07,020 - Rights, yes. 458 00:19:08,860 --> 00:19:09,800 - This one's bass. 459 00:19:09,940 --> 00:19:12,760 This one is a farmer's hoe. 460 00:19:13,300 --> 00:19:13,780 (laughing) 461 00:19:15,660 --> 00:19:17,100 Like American Gothic. 462 00:19:18,460 --> 00:19:20,580 - I guess I'm thinking like stupid niche ones, 463 00:19:20,660 --> 00:19:23,880 like the office fan, super fans, right? 464 00:19:24,460 --> 00:19:25,440 and you have to pick, 465 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:27,680 sure you pick your one profile picture, 466 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,100 but then you have to explain who you're like, 467 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,240 what's your favorite episode and all that stuff. 468 00:19:33,820 --> 00:19:35,180 All right, yeah, your picture looks ugly, 469 00:19:35,340 --> 00:19:38,960 but you have the exact same quote and same episode as me. 470 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:41,260 Maybe I'll give you a chance. 471 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:43,900 Maybe I'll send you that message this time. 472 00:19:44,540 --> 00:19:47,100 - So would you have some like staples 473 00:19:47,500 --> 00:19:51,880 or some way to bring information from one over to the other? 474 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,880 Right, like tie it to your profile 475 00:19:54,900 --> 00:19:57,340 so it's easier to like load in that stuff 476 00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:59,300 because maybe, you know, 477 00:19:59,380 --> 00:20:00,860 you'll have all these different communities 478 00:20:01,540 --> 00:20:04,020 but you'll probably have some core questions 479 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:05,160 that come up in each one. 480 00:20:05,900 --> 00:20:08,040 - Yeah, you almost want to have like the app 481 00:20:08,500 --> 00:20:09,880 moderates a question bank 482 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,200 and these different subreddit equivalents, 483 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:15,360 these dating pools can like submit extra questions 484 00:20:15,460 --> 00:20:17,560 to the question bank that then can be pulled 485 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:18,880 by the other ones too, right? 486 00:20:19,380 --> 00:20:20,660 - You have suggested ones. 487 00:20:20,740 --> 00:20:21,160 - That's cool. 488 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:23,900 I went on a date recently with, I'm trying to think, 489 00:20:24,100 --> 00:20:25,360 could this be a filter on here? 490 00:20:25,460 --> 00:20:26,420 But it was a girl who was just like, 491 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,060 I will not go on a date with anyone 492 00:20:28,380 --> 00:20:30,960 unless they can tell me where they were during 9/11. 493 00:20:31,460 --> 00:20:31,660 What? - What? 494 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,280 - She's like, it's just a good filter question 495 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:35,340 and it works every time. 496 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:37,240 Like, works for what? - Did you have an answer? 497 00:20:37,660 --> 00:20:39,040 - Yeah, I remember where I was during 9/11. 498 00:20:39,540 --> 00:20:40,460 - Yeah, who doesn't? 499 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:42,760 I guess it is a good question, isn't it? 500 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:43,780 What kind of psychopath? 501 00:20:44,120 --> 00:20:45,300 - People that weren't born yet, 502 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:46,700 but kind of that age now. 503 00:20:46,860 --> 00:20:48,220 - I mean, it's part of the filter. 504 00:20:48,740 --> 00:20:49,060 (laughing) 505 00:20:49,780 --> 00:20:50,720 - Oh yeah. - Part of the filter. 506 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:58,420 right that would be the whole concept can you imagine the 9/11 maker oh yeah 507 00:20:58,500 --> 00:21:02,420 does it just let you into the different dating pools or like do I have to name 508 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:06,360 is there a quiz I have to take about the office before I get in like there was 509 00:21:06,660 --> 00:21:09,680 one girl when date was she's like I won't date anyone unless they can name 510 00:21:09,740 --> 00:21:13,760 all the planets in order yes like yeah just means you know they like stars and 511 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:29,480 astrology the why not Scott that's a good the algorithm could be that right 512 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:34,600 you you ask a question like which of these was not a character on friends or 513 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:39,860 whatever and then your algorithm can be if they pick the three wrong ones or 514 00:21:39,620 --> 00:21:41,100 or whatever, then they're matched with nobody. 515 00:21:41,170 --> 00:21:43,820 They get like black holes, shadow band. 516 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,480 - It doesn't tell them though, shadow band. 517 00:21:45,700 --> 00:21:46,540 I really like that. 518 00:21:48,780 --> 00:21:50,980 - But that's the flexibility you're saying, I like it. 519 00:21:51,120 --> 00:21:53,120 - I think the app would try to hopefully encourage 520 00:21:53,220 --> 00:21:56,620 for unique profile pics too, or like every single time. 521 00:21:56,620 --> 00:21:58,900 That makes, that's, I think important, 522 00:21:59,140 --> 00:22:02,520 is creating variety every time you open the app 523 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,020 for the people that aren't killing it. 524 00:22:05,130 --> 00:22:05,760 You know what I mean? 525 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:06,520 - Yeah, yeah, yeah. 526 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:11,760 So like each time you just have to take a selfie every time you log in or whatever? 527 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:18,480 I don't know. Maybe it just can't be one that's already uploaded. Maybe you have to or something like that, right? 528 00:22:18,910 --> 00:22:24,020 You could create that permission maybe in your in your version of your algorithm 529 00:22:24,180 --> 00:22:29,700 Yeah, every every like week or something that you have to change it or it goes neutral 530 00:22:30,010 --> 00:22:34,580 So then you can filter people out that haven't been keeping up. Mm-hmm 531 00:22:35,360 --> 00:22:44,040 Yeah, I just have some friends that are so hesitant to join certain dating apps and you don't like all these other dating apps 532 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:49,300 Are like too small. There's why why I do their dating app, right? 533 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,960 And so you add all the super niches in one super app 534 00:22:53,380 --> 00:22:58,120 So now you can just jump that way you don't have to like download the third or the tenth 535 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:02,560 Dating app that doesn't even have a big pool of people you just use this one 536 00:23:03,140 --> 00:23:10,160 What do you call it? Oh, I don't know shuffle right? That sounds good shuffle. Honestly good 537 00:23:10,500 --> 00:23:11,680 Was that off the cuff? 538 00:23:12,140 --> 00:23:12,560 Good 539 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:17,840 Firing from the hip I like shuffle shuffle it up. We bet on shuffle 540 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,520 It was uh, it was a niche thing about the fetish 541 00:23:25,020 --> 00:23:26,740 He was into rice I was into the office 542 00:23:26,660 --> 00:23:28,620 - Office, I don't know, just match the... 543 00:23:32,260 --> 00:23:32,620 (synthesizer music) 544 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,020 - Hey Ryan, what do you have for us this week? 545 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:39,340 - Maybe. 546 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:40,340 - All right. - Nailed it. 547 00:23:40,980 --> 00:23:42,400 - Well at some point, I'm gonna come back, 548 00:23:42,540 --> 00:23:44,940 I've got a dangerous one that I've been sitting on 549 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:46,800 for since I was like a kid. 550 00:23:48,420 --> 00:23:48,780 (laughs) 551 00:23:48,820 --> 00:23:49,980 - Ooh, dangerous? 552 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:51,300 - It's been waiting. 553 00:23:51,660 --> 00:23:53,960 - But one that was, I don't know, 554 00:23:54,120 --> 00:23:55,460 I've been thinking about a lot lately, 555 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:57,360 was, so on board Game Geek, 556 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,520 they, I recently learned about these things 557 00:24:01,700 --> 00:24:04,180 called math trades, which are, 558 00:24:05,020 --> 00:24:06,360 it's basically you get a bunch of people 559 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,640 and you can set various parameters for it, 560 00:24:09,500 --> 00:24:11,660 but you all fill out and say, 561 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,200 hey, these are all the games that I wanna trade. 562 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,160 And you all dump them into one giant list 563 00:24:17,300 --> 00:24:18,980 with 6,000 games, whatever. 564 00:24:19,540 --> 00:24:23,360 And then you go through and pick all the games 565 00:24:23,460 --> 00:24:24,700 that you're interested in. 566 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:29,720 And then the program finds the maximum amount of trades 567 00:24:29,820 --> 00:24:32,440 that can happen, but like trade chains. 568 00:24:32,930 --> 00:24:34,660 So if I have something Russell wants, 569 00:24:34,660 --> 00:24:35,840 but he has something Leo wants, 570 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:37,840 and Leo has got something Scott wants, 571 00:24:38,180 --> 00:24:39,680 like we can all make a little chain. 572 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,340 So I'm still giving this thing up to Russell, 573 00:24:43,980 --> 00:24:46,200 but I'm getting the thing I want from Scott 574 00:24:46,310 --> 00:24:47,700 and everybody ends up happy. 575 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:49,220 It's genius. 576 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,020 And I love the idea. 577 00:24:52,140 --> 00:24:54,640 I did it for the first time recently. 578 00:24:55,340 --> 00:24:56,880 I got a couple hits. 579 00:24:57,340 --> 00:25:00,240 I mean, a game that I paid basically nothing for 580 00:25:00,360 --> 00:25:03,360 and got a $30 game back. 581 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,280 And the top of my list I got, it was awesome. 582 00:25:06,780 --> 00:25:07,920 - That is such a good idea. 583 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:08,880 - It's so cool. 584 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,220 And I would love this for other contexts. 585 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,200 I'm thinking, I don't know, 586 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,000 your local Facebook group or something. 587 00:25:17,540 --> 00:25:19,779 And I do a lot of thrift shopping 588 00:25:19,780 --> 00:25:22,540 and I see how much stuff gets sent to the dump 589 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,000 from the end of the line from Goodwill. 590 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,020 And I just love the idea of stuff getting reused. 591 00:25:28,360 --> 00:25:30,960 And it's like, oh, I'm done with this, but it's still good. 592 00:25:31,940 --> 00:25:33,240 You can go through selling it, 593 00:25:33,380 --> 00:25:35,920 but then you're gonna use that money to buy something else. 594 00:25:36,020 --> 00:25:38,740 And if, I don't know, if you can work out some trades, 595 00:25:39,679 --> 00:25:41,080 that's kind of as far as I've gotten, 596 00:25:41,220 --> 00:25:44,820 but it's something you run once a month or something. 597 00:25:45,380 --> 00:25:48,240 - Enter items into this app, assign a value to it, 598 00:25:48,380 --> 00:25:50,600 and then it finds, you have your list of these are things 599 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,080 that I want, and then it'll just automatically find, 600 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,240 hey, this thing that worth this value 601 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:56,940 is gonna get you these other things over here. 602 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,420 Print shipping labels for everyone automatically, 603 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:00,860 and you just pop it in the mail. 604 00:26:01,380 --> 00:26:03,180 - And the thing on BoardGameGeek, 605 00:26:03,540 --> 00:26:05,220 it's got a lot of great information 606 00:26:05,420 --> 00:26:08,080 and a lot of cool features, ugly as can be, 607 00:26:08,380 --> 00:26:11,400 but it is so, like it's very functional. 608 00:26:12,140 --> 00:26:16,160 So you can do things like assign weights to your items. 609 00:26:17,020 --> 00:26:20,100 It doesn't not affect trade priority. 610 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,320 So it's like, if you can make these trades with it, 611 00:26:22,580 --> 00:26:24,800 you know, if you'd rather have this item than that, 612 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,460 like tough bits, it's a yes or no, 613 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:29,620 but it's for your own sorting. 614 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,140 And then you can do the same thing in your wants list 615 00:26:32,140 --> 00:26:34,260 and say, oh, I value this game at, you know, 616 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,580 about $50 and that, and then you can click the button 617 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,720 and it'll just auto fill the check, the grid. 618 00:26:39,980 --> 00:26:43,160 It's a whole grid if you say this game for that 619 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:44,440 and click check boxes. 620 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,200 - Is that what prompts you, weekly or monthly, 621 00:26:48,300 --> 00:26:50,180 or just after you do this one time? 622 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:51,280 - No, so there, yeah. 623 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,780 The first one I did that just ended 624 00:26:57,100 --> 00:26:58,900 was an East Coast one. 625 00:26:59,360 --> 00:27:00,800 So it was to minimize shipping costs, 626 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,780 'cause if you get paired with somebody in Seattle 627 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:04,880 and you're down in Florida, 628 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:07,400 the shipping cost is gonna be way different 629 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:08,860 than if it's somebody nearby. 630 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,480 But the way that they run it was, 631 00:27:12,060 --> 00:27:15,100 you've got a week to submit your games. 632 00:27:15,580 --> 00:27:23,720 There's a bunch of rules, you know, make sure that you're listing component condition, box condition, like everything, so people know exactly what they're getting. 633 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:34,220 And then during that week, you can sit and go through the list as it gets refreshed and updated and, you know, mark your wants or whatever. 634 00:27:34,860 --> 00:27:38,480 But then after a week, it closes and you cannot submit anymore. 635 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:43,140 And now there's another week where you can finalize your selections and whatever else. 636 00:27:43,620 --> 00:27:46,680 and then they just run it at the end and tell you if you got a trade 637 00:27:46,940 --> 00:27:49,760 or multiple trades and you just go through with it. 638 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:54,620 -God, before streaming services, this would have just been perfect for DVDs. 639 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:55,740 -Oh, wow, yes. 640 00:27:55,780 --> 00:27:57,900 -I have this and I want to ship it to you. 641 00:27:58,460 --> 00:28:02,940 It's just like a virtual cloud blockbuster of just physical DVDs 642 00:28:02,940 --> 00:28:03,920 running back and forth. 643 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:04,580 -Yes. 644 00:28:05,180 --> 00:28:07,420 Is there anything that still exists that isn't just online? 645 00:28:07,420 --> 00:28:08,680 -I mean, like Magic, Pokemon. 646 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,540 I don't know if those communities have that kind of thing. 647 00:28:13,020 --> 00:28:16,440 There's an element of trust in it, but yeah. 648 00:28:16,950 --> 00:28:17,040 - Yeah. 649 00:28:17,630 --> 00:28:19,820 Do you think you'd be able to abuse a system like this 650 00:28:19,940 --> 00:28:24,600 to gamify the trade a pen all the way up to a car thing 651 00:28:25,260 --> 00:28:27,440 where you're like, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, 652 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,460 my pen is immediately worth a house or worth a car. 653 00:28:30,500 --> 00:28:30,940 You know what I mean? 654 00:28:30,940 --> 00:28:34,200 - You could, but the thing is that you only mark trades 655 00:28:34,340 --> 00:28:35,420 that you're okay with. 656 00:28:35,740 --> 00:28:38,920 So, I mean, yeah, maybe you get lucky, 657 00:28:39,380 --> 00:28:41,160 but you would have to then, you know, 658 00:28:41,220 --> 00:28:44,100 Other people would have to be taking steps down 659 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:44,920 along the chain. 660 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:46,760 - But they wouldn't, the whole point of the pen thing 661 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,100 was that it wasn't to step down 662 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:49,540 for every person in the chain. 663 00:28:49,700 --> 00:28:53,480 They were getting the paperclip for the apple for the-- 664 00:28:53,500 --> 00:28:55,000 - So it totally could happen. 665 00:28:55,060 --> 00:28:56,440 - All the way up through stuff. 666 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,920 - Yeah, the value of the game depends on like the person, 667 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:01,420 personal aspect, right? 668 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:02,180 Yeah, so. 669 00:29:02,580 --> 00:29:03,960 - Interesting, that's really cool. 670 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,400 - So anyway, this is the only place that I've seen it 671 00:29:07,340 --> 00:29:10,860 And I just feel like lining up a one-on-one trade, 672 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,920 as much as I love that idea, it's way harder to do 673 00:29:15,020 --> 00:29:16,580 than if you can find a bunch of chains. 674 00:29:17,420 --> 00:29:17,780 - Totally. 675 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,100 - I feel like this is like a library too. 676 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:21,900 You could do this with books, no problem. 677 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:22,700 - Oh, for sure. 678 00:29:23,260 --> 00:29:25,720 - Book clubs and good reads in general, 679 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:30,460 like that site could take that, acquire this company. 680 00:29:31,460 --> 00:29:31,860 (laughs) 681 00:29:32,100 --> 00:29:34,580 Yeah, books is perfect, right? 682 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,220 Because then if it's something you're not gonna read again, 683 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,180 If you're reading a bunch, it's a good way 684 00:29:39,300 --> 00:29:42,080 to just cycle stuff around and get the stuff you want. 685 00:29:42,820 --> 00:29:44,620 Dude, I'm thinking big things too. 686 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,120 It's not like you lose anything if you don't take any trades, 687 00:29:48,220 --> 00:29:48,400 right? 688 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:49,580 Exactly, yeah. 689 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:54,540 So I have a ton of stuff that's worth maybe $200, $300 690 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,280 that I'd put on a list and just run it. 691 00:29:57,340 --> 00:29:57,780 And you know what? 692 00:29:57,860 --> 00:29:59,400 I'm just going to post it there every month. 693 00:29:59,900 --> 00:30:01,820 And eventually, somebody is going to trade with me. 694 00:30:02,380 --> 00:30:02,740 Dope. 695 00:30:03,140 --> 00:30:03,840 I'm always going to win. 696 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:05,040 Once a week, you get all your list of possible, 697 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:06,780 hey, someone's offering you this, essentially. 698 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,440 The system is offering you this, because it's going to find some capital. 699 00:30:09,460 --> 00:30:11,680 You could make a wish list, maybe, of, hey, 700 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,140 these are the types of things that I'm looking for. 701 00:30:14,220 --> 00:30:15,660 That's exactly what I was going to say. 702 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:16,740 Because that's something they have, too. 703 00:30:16,820 --> 00:30:18,220 There's a whole separate list that you can say, 704 00:30:18,340 --> 00:30:21,980 hey, I would love it if somebody posted this game. 705 00:30:22,260 --> 00:30:24,460 You ever try to sell something on Craigslist or now Facebook 706 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:25,000 Marketplace? 707 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,700 Hey, I'll trade you this broken single ice skate. 708 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:29,420 What? 709 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:30,060 No, stop. 710 00:30:30,060 --> 00:30:30,780 For your 3D printer. 711 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,080 The worst part is the trade offers you don't care about. 712 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:37,060 So this system would thrive if you had the somehow indicating 713 00:30:37,060 --> 00:30:39,220 seeding the system with things that you're on the hunt for. 714 00:30:40,260 --> 00:30:42,060 And it's like gets rid of the junk 715 00:30:42,180 --> 00:30:44,480 that you just don't want to get rid of. 716 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,140 But someone else wants it. 717 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,040 And even if it's six trades in order to get what you want, 718 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,780 all of them are just marked pending, everyone agrees, 719 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:53,740 and then it ships it. 720 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,400 I wonder if you could optimize the buy nothing phenomenon. 721 00:30:58,780 --> 00:31:00,440 Yeah, I was thinking about that too. 722 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,060 Turn that in, like it's the data set. 723 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:03,520 Because those communities exist. 724 00:31:04,020 --> 00:31:05,440 And there's some really cool stuff 725 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:09,840 will will give away there by nothing yeah they're they're these Facebook 726 00:31:10,060 --> 00:31:15,520 groups where you just post like hey I've got this thing and when you're trying to 727 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,080 get rid of something and people will just say oh I would love that and you're 728 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:21,980 like great come pick it up and come get this or the other way hey I like can get 729 00:31:22,060 --> 00:31:25,540 for free online yeah it's it's like Craigslist free but you can also ask for 730 00:31:25,700 --> 00:31:28,800 stuff there too people you know they'll have like a day or a couple days that 731 00:31:28,820 --> 00:31:32,720 you can say hey I'm looking for this if anybody's got one that you're getting 732 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:37,760 You can so this is kind of like a step up. We have these extra-sized diapers 733 00:31:38,220 --> 00:31:43,680 We just grew out of them and I don't need them anymore or whatever, you know, it's often supplies things like that 734 00:31:43,980 --> 00:31:49,640 This would be really good for if you could ship alcohol easily or weed like either one 735 00:31:50,580 --> 00:31:56,280 Yeah, people would be all over that. How would you how would you trade alcohol not tell us? Yes. Yeah 736 00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,800 Like would you be half opened? I love my mailman 737 00:32:00,820 --> 00:32:02,700 Don't even know it 738 00:32:02,700 --> 00:32:05,340 The half-open bottle of Whistlepig just like, shivers in the middle. 739 00:32:05,340 --> 00:32:09,920 I was gonna say, it would be neat to go to one of these groups and offer up your local 740 00:32:10,420 --> 00:32:11,460 special goods, right? 741 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:16,480 Like, I live in Traverse City and we have all these fresh-picked cherries, but I know 742 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:20,780 that down south you guys are famous for that variety of oranges in Florida that you can 743 00:32:20,900 --> 00:32:22,460 only get there, so let's do a trade or whatever. 744 00:32:22,460 --> 00:32:23,200 That's a good one, yeah. 745 00:32:23,260 --> 00:32:27,760 You could like, that local candy shop that always makes that one thing on the East Coast 746 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:28,360 or whatever, right? 747 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:32,680 And it times it for the season, like, hey, you're not gonna receive these 'til like October 748 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,100 but you're gonna get those fresh oranges in February 749 00:32:35,210 --> 00:32:35,680 or something. 750 00:32:36,190 --> 00:32:36,300 - Oh. 751 00:32:36,300 --> 00:32:37,040 - You got an IOU. 752 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:38,020 - Yeah. 753 00:32:38,460 --> 00:32:39,760 - The time, the delay. 754 00:32:40,010 --> 00:32:41,140 I didn't even think about that. 755 00:32:41,540 --> 00:32:45,980 That's like a missing 2D chess, 3D chess version, right? 756 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:47,920 - Yeah, it's a lot of trust in there. 757 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:49,020 - Yeah, a lot of trust. 758 00:32:49,260 --> 00:32:50,340 - Yeah, with the board game thing, right, 759 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,440 it's like you can't, it can't be a pending thing. 760 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,220 It's gotta be in your possession now 761 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,480 because if something goes wrong, you're on the hook for it. 762 00:32:58,780 --> 00:32:59,940 And so, 'cause-- 763 00:32:59,940 --> 00:33:02,000 - Right, 'cause everything falls apart 764 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,660 when one person doesn't ship to the ship 765 00:33:03,660 --> 00:33:03,920 to the ship to the ship. - Right, 'cause you're 766 00:33:04,140 --> 00:33:05,340 holding that chain together. - Exactly. 767 00:33:05,340 --> 00:33:06,900 - You've got an escrow warehouse. 768 00:33:07,300 --> 00:33:07,620 (laughing) 769 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:09,940 - How does that, like, I'm guessing 770 00:33:10,060 --> 00:33:11,100 that they figure that out, right? 771 00:33:11,100 --> 00:33:13,180 They just ban you or like newbies have a-- 772 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,060 - Yeah, yeah, so I mean, you can, things happen, right? 773 00:33:16,140 --> 00:33:17,940 So maybe it's like, oh, you know what, like, crap, 774 00:33:18,020 --> 00:33:20,520 I forgot that I had this in the math trade 775 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:21,780 and somebody just bought it. 776 00:33:22,020 --> 00:33:24,180 Well, then it's like, well, I can go on Amazon 777 00:33:24,420 --> 00:33:26,280 and just order you the game. 778 00:33:26,740 --> 00:33:28,660 Or, hey, I've got these other games, 779 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,160 is there anything that you would still be happy with? 780 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:31,900 - Oh, I like that. 781 00:33:31,900 --> 00:33:33,880 - You know, like, there are ways to work that out. 782 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,000 You try to avoid it, but-- 783 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:35,660 - There's a credit card on file, 784 00:33:35,820 --> 00:33:37,460 it'll just buy a new version if you can't. 785 00:33:37,460 --> 00:33:40,180 - I don't have your game, but is there something else 786 00:33:40,180 --> 00:33:44,280 I can do to pay for the trade? 787 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:45,480 - Mow my lawn. 788 00:33:46,090 --> 00:33:46,180 (laughing) 789 00:33:46,180 --> 00:33:47,800 - Take my fence, yeah, right. 790 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:49,120 (laughing) 791 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:49,840 - That'll help. 792 00:33:50,220 --> 00:33:52,560 Well, I mean, that's another thing I thought of, right? 793 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:56,600 Is like, hey, I have this skill that I would be willing 794 00:33:56,820 --> 00:33:59,480 to like, you know, fix these things around your house 795 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:00,940 or do this kind of work, 796 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,380 this is another thing I'm looking for. 797 00:34:03,660 --> 00:34:04,540 - You'll appreciate this. 798 00:34:04,900 --> 00:34:08,419 My little sister's boyfriend right now is between jobs 799 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,780 and he just started his own like vibe coding. 800 00:34:11,379 --> 00:34:13,679 Hey, he lives in LA. 801 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:15,600 He originally was from Mexico City 802 00:34:15,629 --> 00:34:17,419 and he's like, there's all these people around here, 803 00:34:18,139 --> 00:34:20,639 Latino people that just can't have these small businesses 804 00:34:20,940 --> 00:34:23,860 and they don't know how to get their name out there 805 00:34:24,020 --> 00:34:24,620 in any form. 806 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,940 So I have this service or make this cool product. 807 00:34:27,300 --> 00:34:28,560 So I'm just gonna go out there 808 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,200 and he's just actively building websites for them, 809 00:34:31,679 --> 00:34:33,340 starting their businesses for them and helping them. 810 00:34:33,740 --> 00:34:36,460 He has so many offers and so much bartering 811 00:34:36,720 --> 00:34:38,020 with him right now where they're just like, 812 00:34:39,240 --> 00:34:40,860 oh my God, let me offer you this 813 00:34:40,899 --> 00:34:42,120 in exchange for payment going through right here. 814 00:34:42,139 --> 00:34:43,480 - You'll never need a plumber again. 815 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:45,260 Or whatever. - Exactly. 816 00:34:45,460 --> 00:34:47,919 Like he's doing it for plumbers and electricians 817 00:34:48,060 --> 00:34:49,659 and that's awesome. 818 00:34:50,139 --> 00:34:51,520 He's making a killing out of it, 819 00:34:51,639 --> 00:34:53,260 but also he has all these friends for life 820 00:34:53,260 --> 00:34:54,659 if he ever needs a mechanic again 821 00:34:54,710 --> 00:34:56,379 or anything along those lines. - Pocket favors. 822 00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:58,700 - That's so legit. 823 00:34:59,300 --> 00:35:01,460 Like when I was building WordPress websites back in the day 824 00:35:01,500 --> 00:35:03,260 and people were like, I don't wanna do that. 825 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:04,880 And it's relatively easy. 826 00:35:04,940 --> 00:35:07,060 It just felt like a good move to do that. 827 00:35:07,220 --> 00:35:08,400 But yeah, man, that's so, 828 00:35:08,780 --> 00:35:10,600 the trading I think would be cool. 829 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,980 I would love to get like, you know, 830 00:35:13,500 --> 00:35:16,260 like lessons or something for other things, right? 831 00:35:16,380 --> 00:35:17,520 Like that'd be so cool. 832 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:18,180 - Totally. 833 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,340 I could offer dance lessons or tutoring, 834 00:35:20,660 --> 00:35:23,100 things like that and you're trading for other skills. 835 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:24,460 - One hour for one hour. 836 00:35:24,980 --> 00:35:26,180 - For the next version of Katan. 837 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:27,220 So legit. 838 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:29,880 But then maybe that's the way things should be. 839 00:35:30,380 --> 00:35:32,000 Shoot, I'll give you food. 840 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,660 I'll give you just a shitload of food if you-- 841 00:35:36,380 --> 00:35:38,240 We've come full circle as a society. 842 00:35:38,940 --> 00:35:40,440 I mean-- 843 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,600 When the US dollar collapses, this is going to be our lives. 844 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,140 There will be Bitcoin, and there'll be bartering. 845 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,820 Quad code it now, because the tokens are going up, right? 846 00:35:54,460 --> 00:35:55,220 What you got, Leo? 847 00:35:55,480 --> 00:36:01,140 Alright, every iPhone for the last few years, and iPads too, have a LiDAR scanner and color scanner. 848 00:36:01,340 --> 00:36:02,720 You can make full 3D maps. 849 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:07,580 Why hasn't anyone turned this into a custom first-person shooter game? 850 00:36:08,140 --> 00:36:11,180 I would love to play paintball or whatever. 851 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:16,100 Yeah, I know. You gotta like get around the, uh, someone doing this maliciously, and that's the real hang-up. 852 00:36:16,180 --> 00:36:19,000 But maybe you make it a snowball fight, or paintball, or laser tag. 853 00:36:19,580 --> 00:36:23,160 Wouldn't it be fun to hop into that game that you're gonna play with your buds, 854 00:36:23,380 --> 00:36:29,320 and play laser tag or paintball in someone's home, at that place that you all hang out 855 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:33,880 often, down that mall that you all have in your town or whatever. 856 00:36:34,460 --> 00:36:38,280 The game could have like a communal library of actual places that people have scanned 857 00:36:38,500 --> 00:36:44,060 that you can play hide and seek in or whatever virtually. 858 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:50,859 I feel like the scanning thing is underutilized and that there's some serious game potential 859 00:36:50,860 --> 00:36:55,300 but there's the whole school shooter problem I haven't gotten around that yet 860 00:36:55,420 --> 00:37:01,280 but if we make that maybe right it's always them that ruin everything fun 861 00:37:01,940 --> 00:37:06,940 right I get the like maybe we just lean into the edginess of I'm gonna play 862 00:37:07,460 --> 00:37:13,100 Call of Duty but it's at my local church or whatever I don't know but nerf guns 863 00:37:13,100 --> 00:37:17,420 are still success yeah we all like people aren't trying to you know so 864 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:22,480 Exactly. I don't think anyone's done this yet that I've found. I don't know why. 865 00:37:23,020 --> 00:37:28,080 Wait, so sorry. I have my iPhone and I have an app pulled up where I can 866 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:32,760 like tap a button on the app and it shoots dead ahead. I feel like a crosshair is on my screen. 867 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:37,780 You have an app. You walk around. You gather the information about the environment. Then, 868 00:37:38,300 --> 00:37:42,140 many months later, days later, weeks later, you sit down at your computer and you play 869 00:37:42,300 --> 00:37:45,020 a multiplayer game in the arena that you scanned. 870 00:37:45,519 --> 00:37:46,700 Oh, that makes way more sense. 871 00:37:46,820 --> 00:37:52,860 That is so cool. Got it. I can play Call of Duty in my home. This is a regular old video game 872 00:37:53,020 --> 00:37:56,660 But the map is the place that you captured. Oh 873 00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:03,500 Frick, that's really fun. Yeah a place I know really well. Yeah so much potential there, right? 874 00:38:03,980 --> 00:38:10,860 That is so cool. Very cool. And I also understand. Okay, instead of shooting it's spray-painting the entire wall 875 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,380 It's a split to me. Sure. It doesn't have to be a shoot based game 876 00:38:14,420 --> 00:38:19,760 It could be a capture the flag game where there's like jetpacks and zaniness it could be 877 00:38:21,240 --> 00:38:27,900 Sure, you remember all the things we used to play that were like Minecraft mod games that weren't shooting but like other stuff you got your 878 00:38:28,500 --> 00:38:34,300 Platforming you've got your this that there's got to be that sort of zany fun 879 00:38:34,860 --> 00:38:40,660 Multiplayer arena game you shrunk down to like the size of a mouse. Yeah, that's exactly where I was gonna go 880 00:38:40,580 --> 00:38:43,840 I want to play Halo in my office on here. 881 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:47,360 I want to have all the different levels and things going through and just little tiny 882 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:54,200 Master Chiefs running around with teleports to different levels. That's what I want. Yeah, shrunk version is a really good one. 883 00:38:54,720 --> 00:38:55,800 Oh, this is really cool 884 00:38:55,900 --> 00:38:59,920 because like I bet it's easier to do that and like do something in the physical world and 885 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,160 then make it into a map that you can play on. 886 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,900 I don't know how hard it is to do digitally, but I can imagine it's just easier. 887 00:39:05,900 --> 00:39:12,460 I'm gonna put a Ford up in my house with blankets and pillows and light our scan it and now I have an arena 888 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:13,300 Yeah 889 00:39:13,980 --> 00:39:18,660 Absolutely. Yeah. Yes. I want to play Age of Empires 2 in my backyard like 890 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:25,880 10 hours gluing shoeboxes together to finally get this arena. You guys gotta play 891 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:32,580 Damn, that's really good. Leo a parkour map. That's at your local playground. Oh, yeah 892 00:39:33,340 --> 00:39:36,260 A resource gathering game in your local park. 893 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:41,320 Oh, like, yeah, you could just Minecraft around your park or something, like build a whole... 894 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,260 Yeah, I want to be shrunk down tiny and fly through my house. 895 00:39:45,500 --> 00:39:50,660 When Google Earth first launched, people were like, "We can make a racing game out of this," and the data is just not quite good 896 00:39:50,780 --> 00:39:54,600 enough. If you had enough people in time with their LiDAR scanning iPhones, 897 00:39:54,700 --> 00:39:57,760 I bet you can make a pretty accurate scale map of, like, 898 00:39:58,180 --> 00:40:04,740 Racing through that one lap that goes around your neighborhood or in your downtown in your local town or whatever 899 00:40:05,580 --> 00:40:06,000 do some 900 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:07,720 Gran Turismo, but 901 00:40:09,220 --> 00:40:09,520 You know 902 00:40:10,260 --> 00:40:11,760 local suburban home 903 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:17,580 So cool. Yeah, and and it would be local people that are invested in this right? 904 00:40:17,740 --> 00:40:20,720 So like you already know the area and you've got people around 905 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:26,160 Yeah, maybe you can take the map that someone else has started and extend it, you know 906 00:40:25,940 --> 00:40:31,800 or scan it in a different time of year or whatever. But yeah, I think the key of this is that you have the game 907 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:36,380 structures and it's like a marketplace of scans that people have captured, right? 908 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:44,440 What would it be like to play that one paintball game but in Paris or in the Louvre or I don't know 909 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:45,760 somewhere famous 910 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:47,580 Madison Square Garden 911 00:40:48,700 --> 00:40:53,300 Somewhere that someone has scanned already. You can like go to real places and do a Halo match 912 00:40:53,260 --> 00:40:59,920 Bill Gates house. Who scanned this? There could be a marketing opportunity maybe 913 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:05,440 you've got that one flagship McDonald's store that like puts their 3d scan of 914 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:10,060 their layout in in the app yeah like if I'm going to a museum or whatever like I 915 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:13,920 could do this map and play a game and then I know the layout already right 916 00:41:14,390 --> 00:41:19,740 could kind of help yeah acquaint me with the space before I even go there we're 917 00:41:19,740 --> 00:41:21,040 We're going to be robbing banks soon. 918 00:41:23,540 --> 00:41:24,120 Go to the safe. 919 00:41:24,220 --> 00:41:24,620 The vault. 920 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:26,320 We finally got the blueprint for the vault. 921 00:41:26,500 --> 00:41:28,280 This guy left his password on his desk. 922 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:29,400 Good thing I scanned it. 923 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:30,240 I'm just scanning it. 924 00:41:32,700 --> 00:41:34,580 Don't write your password on a sticky note, people. 925 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:36,820 Don't tell me what to do. 926 00:41:39,780 --> 00:41:42,740 Yeah, and as this expands, I mean, like you said, 927 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,740 you can start stitching stuff together, you know? 928 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:46,720 Yeah, right. 929 00:41:47,020 --> 00:41:49,900 That's a good way to capture actual map data too, yeah. 930 00:41:50,340 --> 00:41:54,100 Why hasn't a Pokemon Go-esque game done this already? 931 00:41:55,180 --> 00:41:57,480 Pokemon Go is trying to do that. 932 00:41:57,740 --> 00:41:58,080 Oh, really? 933 00:41:58,100 --> 00:42:03,860 They're more incentivizing scanning real-world areas and stuff. 934 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,700 Okay, because the sidewalk data was like, everybody, if you're in the know, you know 935 00:42:07,740 --> 00:42:10,540 they're just trying to figure out where people walk, right, in those sidewalks. 936 00:42:10,580 --> 00:42:12,400 And then now, you have all these... 937 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:13,660 Well, that wasn't a secret, yeah. 938 00:42:13,820 --> 00:42:16,180 Niantic was all about like, we're not gonna charge 939 00:42:16,180 --> 00:42:17,580 and instead we're gonna sell the data. 940 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,200 We'll get traffic flow data that we can sell 941 00:42:20,340 --> 00:42:23,260 to municipalities and businesses and stuff, yeah. 942 00:42:23,620 --> 00:42:25,860 - Now they've got like route systems 943 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:27,940 where they're specifically trying to see 944 00:42:28,060 --> 00:42:30,640 where are popular paths people go. 945 00:42:31,980 --> 00:42:34,400 And again, in addition to the scanning stuff, 946 00:42:34,820 --> 00:42:37,020 scanning and they'll like incentivize, 947 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,160 hey, this particular spot we want, 948 00:42:39,580 --> 00:42:42,900 go scan this area and get a special thing or whatever. 949 00:42:43,100 --> 00:42:45,740 Oh, so I can buy, yeah, dang. 950 00:42:45,940 --> 00:42:47,600 I think this would be helpful for maintenance, 951 00:42:48,700 --> 00:42:49,900 construction, you know? 952 00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,940 Like, hey, I wanna see somebody scan this wall 953 00:42:54,540 --> 00:42:58,500 and I can sell to the landlord or something 954 00:42:58,520 --> 00:42:59,520 or the municipality. 955 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:00,860 That needs an upgrade. 956 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,960 Roofs all over, just sell all day, right? 957 00:43:05,780 --> 00:43:09,200 - There'd be some fun opportunities for rare captures, 958 00:43:09,380 --> 00:43:10,680 like construction sites. 959 00:43:10,860 --> 00:43:12,800 if you can capture all of the LiDAR data 960 00:43:12,870 --> 00:43:14,820 for that moment in time. 961 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,840 Or everything's set up for Christmas in this one location, 962 00:43:18,060 --> 00:43:18,800 Rockefeller Center. 963 00:43:19,010 --> 00:43:20,940 So capture everything now and make it 964 00:43:20,940 --> 00:43:24,660 into a rare map that is once in a lifetime sort of moment. 965 00:43:24,860 --> 00:43:26,940 And then you can play it over and over again or whatever. 966 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,900 Overlaying that onto the other something, right? 967 00:43:30,900 --> 00:43:35,180 So you destroy the map of when it's complete, 968 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,560 and now you've got the bones. 969 00:43:38,380 --> 00:43:38,840 Whoa. 970 00:43:40,140 --> 00:43:40,820 - Yes, Ryan. 971 00:43:40,860 --> 00:43:41,640 - That's really cool. 972 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,260 I just want to be shrunk and play Halo. 973 00:43:44,700 --> 00:43:45,380 That's all I want. 974 00:43:45,380 --> 00:43:45,740 (laughing) 975 00:43:46,260 --> 00:43:47,740 I can't stop thinking about that. 976 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:48,920 That's such a cool idea. 977 00:43:49,430 --> 00:43:50,900 - Well, thank you very, very much for listening. 978 00:43:50,990 --> 00:43:52,020 We hope you enjoyed yourself 979 00:43:52,070 --> 00:43:53,720 and thank you, Ryan, for being here. 980 00:43:53,780 --> 00:43:54,420 This was so fun. 981 00:43:54,500 --> 00:43:54,880 - Yeah, thanks. 982 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:55,480 This was great. 983 00:43:56,119 --> 00:43:58,080 - Our website is spitball.show. 984 00:43:58,420 --> 00:44:00,140 There you can find links to our YouTube channel, 985 00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:01,080 other social media. 986 00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,720 Hey, got an idea for us to review? 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