1 00:00:07,260 --> 00:00:07,880 I'm Scott. 2 00:00:08,100 --> 00:00:08,560 I'm Russell. 3 00:00:08,780 --> 00:00:09,200 And I'm Leo. 4 00:00:09,340 --> 00:00:10,340 This is Spitball. 5 00:00:16,620 --> 00:00:20,840 Welcome to Spitball, where three educated extroverts and a guest empty our heads of 6 00:00:20,900 --> 00:00:24,240 startup and tech product ideas that we have stuck up in there so you can all have them 7 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:24,860 for free. 8 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:26,200 Anything that we say is yours to keep. 9 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:30,160 And this week, I am delighted to have brought along my sister to the show. 10 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:35,540 Uh, Marie is a senior at Western where she's going to be going into elementary education, 11 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:41,620 so she can hopefully babysit us well enough to stay on topic this episode. 12 00:00:42,020 --> 00:00:43,840 So Marie, welcome to Spitball. 13 00:00:44,480 --> 00:00:45,500 Happy to be here! 14 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:47,000 Oh, this is going to be a good time. 15 00:00:47,540 --> 00:00:52,080 And this week, in honor of you spending so much time in classrooms, I've written a little 16 00:00:52,180 --> 00:00:54,580 warm-up game that I'm going to call K-12 LOL. 17 00:00:55,600 --> 00:01:00,780 And in this game, I have a list of a bunch of failed tech for the classroom projects 18 00:01:00,900 --> 00:01:02,440 that I've dug up over the years. 19 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:09,280 Lots of smart board wannabes that never really took off, and all we have to do, I'm just 20 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,640 going to go through this list and you got to tell me if it's something that I made up 21 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:12,720 or if it's a real thing. 22 00:01:13,740 --> 00:01:20,140 So if I were to tell you about the high school in China in Zhang Hao in 2018 that installed 23 00:01:20,220 --> 00:01:25,580 AI cameras above every blackboard that scanned students' faces every 30 seconds to detect 24 00:01:25,580 --> 00:01:30,340 Emotions and categorize their attention levels. Why that would be a real story 25 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:36,240 Apparently students reported feeling like mystery eyes were watching them and didn't love it 26 00:01:37,220 --> 00:01:44,260 So it's things like that that kind of fell through we start as we always do with our guests Marie Marie the Newton 27 00:01:46,820 --> 00:01:52,700 KNEWTON an adaptive learning startup that raised a hundred eighty million dollars promising a quote robot 28 00:01:52,820 --> 00:01:57,340 Tutor in the Sky that could quote semi reads students minds 29 00:01:59,540 --> 00:02:01,680 Was this a real thing or a made-up thing 30 00:02:04,700 --> 00:02:08,420 I'm gonna go is real based on the name. That is absolutely 31 00:02:09,820 --> 00:02:12,560 Yep, they were acquired in 2019 for a hot 32 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:17,940 17-million so about 90% less than they were originally made for after 33 00:02:18,740 --> 00:02:26,120 Failing to deliver. Scott the Learn Pod by Focus First individual sound dampening focus pods that were 34 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:33,780 $4,200 each with built-in tablets white noise generators and air quality monitors marketing for reducing distractions 35 00:02:34,740 --> 00:02:35,480 Real or made up? 36 00:02:36,260 --> 00:02:40,300 This is a 420 joke. I'm gonna say fake on that one. I made that one up very good 37 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:47,860 Number was too specific. I had a whole like backstory about them facing a lawsuit after a child 38 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:49,080 - Oh, it's here. - I'll get an asthma attack, 39 00:02:49,220 --> 00:02:50,340 but we don't have to go into it. 40 00:02:50,640 --> 00:02:51,140 It's fine. 41 00:02:51,310 --> 00:02:53,100 - A panic attack trapped in their pod. 42 00:02:53,260 --> 00:02:53,620 - Exactly. 43 00:02:54,959 --> 00:02:56,540 Russell, ChalkSync 2.0. 44 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,920 There was never a 1.0, but ChalkSync 2.0, 45 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,880 a smart chalk tray that detected 46 00:03:03,050 --> 00:03:05,620 which color chalk you grabbed underneath a chalkboard 47 00:03:06,100 --> 00:03:08,020 and auto-labeled the board notes 48 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:09,900 that you take in Google Drive. 49 00:03:10,620 --> 00:03:11,360 Real or made up? - Whoa. 50 00:03:11,640 --> 00:03:14,520 Wait, that sounds so cool, but I don't think it's real. 51 00:03:14,920 --> 00:03:16,120 - Yeah, I made that one up too, very good. 52 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,020 2.0 though, Leo, you got me. 53 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,080 Like I was, I thought I was going to lose that one, 54 00:03:22,300 --> 00:03:23,860 but the whole, there's no 1.0. 55 00:03:24,420 --> 00:03:26,400 The concept of a school with a chalkboard 56 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:28,380 using Google Drive is very funny to me. 57 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:31,160 Yeah, that's it right there. 58 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:33,520 Well, I mean, they had smart boards. 59 00:03:34,180 --> 00:03:35,720 I don't know, maybe it's a predecessor. 60 00:03:37,130 --> 00:03:37,620 I tried. 61 00:03:38,260 --> 00:03:42,060 Marie, the Engkey, E-N-G-K-E-Y. 62 00:03:42,290 --> 00:03:45,880 In South Korea, egg-shaped robots with TV screen faces 63 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,100 displaying avatars that remotely controlled 64 00:03:48,700 --> 00:03:52,380 Filipino teachers paid way less than Korean teachers. 65 00:03:54,540 --> 00:03:56,000 - I'm gonna go with real. 66 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:57,000 - Yeah, that was real. 67 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:58,020 - 100%. - Yeah. 68 00:03:58,180 --> 00:03:58,960 - 100%. - Wow. 69 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,460 - 2010, so like really early in like, 70 00:04:01,710 --> 00:04:03,220 what was the iPad, like 2012? 71 00:04:03,470 --> 00:04:05,400 So this was an early shape, yeah. 72 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:07,860 Apparently it's cheaper to outsource 73 00:04:08,540 --> 00:04:10,380 literal teaching to another country. 74 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,700 - It's a crazy use of globalization, that's nuts, okay. 75 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:19,380 Scott, the Amplify tablet, Rupert Murdoch of News Corp 76 00:04:19,459 --> 00:04:23,020 spent a billion dollars building proprietary Android tablets 77 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,460 for competing with Apple in schools, 78 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:28,800 but the chargers overheated and melted. 79 00:04:29,350 --> 00:04:29,980 Real or made up? 80 00:04:30,180 --> 00:04:30,760 (laughing) 81 00:04:31,910 --> 00:04:33,280 - I really want this to be real. 82 00:04:33,900 --> 00:04:34,540 I'm gonna say real. 83 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:35,940 - That's real, very good. 84 00:04:38,100 --> 00:04:38,660 Yeah, apparently-- 85 00:04:38,660 --> 00:04:40,280 - Chargers actually overheated and melted? 86 00:04:40,620 --> 00:04:42,940 - Yes, and screens shattered all the time 87 00:04:42,940 --> 00:04:47,940 Plastic melted and it was a total nightmare and never took off of course then they was sold to Zune 88 00:04:50,280 --> 00:04:54,340 Can you imagine Rupert Murdoch controlling all of our schools now - that's nightmare fuel right there 89 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:57,740 Russell the no K&O 90 00:04:58,280 --> 00:05:04,860 Dual screen 14-inch tablet designed to replace heavy textbooks, but weighed five and a half pounds and cost $900 91 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:12,160 Still cheaper than a text I know I think this is real it is real very good 92 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,200 They were five and a half pounds. 93 00:05:14,500 --> 00:05:16,580 The original iPad weighed one and a half. 94 00:05:16,780 --> 00:05:19,280 So this is like a cinder block in your backpack. 95 00:05:20,039 --> 00:05:21,720 - That is very heavy. 96 00:05:22,380 --> 00:05:24,520 And $900 on top of that. 97 00:05:24,860 --> 00:05:27,560 - It only lasted two years, 2010 to 2012. 98 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:30,260 - Still had to probably pay the same price 99 00:05:30,260 --> 00:05:31,540 for textbooks too, you know? 100 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,820 - Marie, Hall Pass with the little, 101 00:05:34,860 --> 00:05:36,760 what is it called when there's a line over the A? 102 00:05:37,340 --> 00:05:39,540 Not an umlaut, but the-- - Schwa? 103 00:05:39,540 --> 00:05:44,740 Ah, Halpas 2019 to 2021, digitize student IDs 104 00:05:45,500 --> 00:05:47,840 with Bluetooth mesh networking tracking chips 105 00:05:47,840 --> 00:05:50,140 to automatically unlock doors, take attendances, 106 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:51,580 and approve bathroom passes. 107 00:05:52,100 --> 00:05:52,940 - This feels real. 108 00:05:53,460 --> 00:05:54,200 - Yeah, I made that one up. 109 00:05:54,660 --> 00:05:55,100 - Oh, okay. 110 00:05:55,300 --> 00:05:56,120 - Nah. - Wow. 111 00:05:57,219 --> 00:05:59,620 - They allegedly collapsed due to COVID 112 00:05:59,860 --> 00:06:01,940 and a battery that needed recharging every 10 days 113 00:06:02,140 --> 00:06:03,400 was the story that I made up 114 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:04,340 (laughing) 115 00:06:04,540 --> 00:06:06,100 in case I needed more talking points. 116 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:08,580 - That sounds so cool though. 117 00:06:08,700 --> 00:06:10,280 That's a Spitball right there, Leo. 118 00:06:10,410 --> 00:06:11,040 - Yeah, there you go. 119 00:06:11,140 --> 00:06:13,420 I just came up with that on the fly. 120 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:14,700 So if you wanna go ahead and make-- 121 00:06:14,700 --> 00:06:16,580 - I think all the fake ones are ones that Leo's like, 122 00:06:16,580 --> 00:06:17,760 "I need this in my educational world." 123 00:06:17,780 --> 00:06:20,360 - You can be the one in charge of trying to get thousands 124 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,640 of high schoolers to remember to charge their IDs. 125 00:06:23,460 --> 00:06:23,820 (laughing) 126 00:06:26,220 --> 00:06:26,580 - True. 127 00:06:27,460 --> 00:06:30,540 - Scott, the talking typewriter in the 1960s. 128 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:32,540 A computerized electronic typewriter 129 00:06:32,740 --> 00:06:35,940 developed by McGraw Edison that placed children in booths 130 00:06:36,060 --> 00:06:37,500 where they could explore letters. 131 00:06:37,900 --> 00:06:43,700 The machine wouldn't let them type unless they had the correct letter on the screen 132 00:06:44,060 --> 00:06:45,620 pressed in front of them on the keyboard. 133 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:46,560 Really made up. 134 00:06:46,780 --> 00:06:47,600 The 60s? 135 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:48,860 No, there's no way. 136 00:06:49,100 --> 00:06:49,960 That was a real thing. 137 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:50,740 Like a clockwork? 138 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:52,120 The talking typewriter, yeah! 139 00:06:52,700 --> 00:06:52,800 What? 140 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:54,120 Is it like the size of a building? 141 00:06:56,180 --> 00:06:57,520 It must have been all mechanical. 142 00:06:57,700 --> 00:06:58,980 I don't understand how it did that. 143 00:06:59,300 --> 00:07:00,000 That's crazy. 144 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:00,500 I know. 145 00:07:00,860 --> 00:07:02,240 It gave audio feedback and everything. 146 00:07:03,260 --> 00:07:08,800 And then lastly, Russell, Classcraft, a web app that turns classrooms into lightweight 147 00:07:08,940 --> 00:07:14,720 RPGs where students become heroes, earning XP and powers by completing assignments as 148 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:20,700 quests and losing health points for disruptions, tardiness, poor quiz scores, that sort of 149 00:07:20,780 --> 00:07:21,000 thing. 150 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:22,080 Real or made up? 151 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,980 [Russell] [laughs] Lightning Bolt, be quiet! 152 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:32,920 [laughter] 153 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:39,340 teaching. Oh like real escape. For like atomic habits basically like just getting it. But I 154 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:45,600 think it's real. It was a real thing for ten years. You could, you too could use 155 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:51,140 instead of Google Classroom, Classcraft! Are you brave enough warriors to go on a 156 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:57,020 quest to do your division this week? Yeah! That's just class dojo but cooler. 157 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:01,860 What's class dojo? That sounds awesome. Class dojo is like that? What's class dojo? Oh it's like 158 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,760 - Like teachers can give points or subtract points 159 00:08:05,020 --> 00:08:06,320 for like specific things. 160 00:08:06,620 --> 00:08:07,780 - Hogwarts style. 161 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:08,580 - Exactly. 162 00:08:09,700 --> 00:08:12,020 But also they use it to like text parents and stuff. 163 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:13,600 Like it's mostly texting at this point. 164 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:15,880 But it started when I was in third and fourth grade, 165 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:17,940 which my mentor was horrified to learn. 166 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:19,280 (laughing) 167 00:08:23,779 --> 00:08:26,400 - I think Russell, you got all three right 168 00:08:26,420 --> 00:08:27,480 if I'm tracking that right. 169 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:28,580 Pretty sure. 170 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:29,780 Well done. 171 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:30,660 You win again. 172 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:32,680 - Dominating as always. 173 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:34,599 - Winner, I'm a winner. 174 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:35,880 - You're a winner. 175 00:08:37,099 --> 00:08:41,840 That means of course that you get to pick who goes first, 176 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,200 as we do every week. 177 00:08:44,570 --> 00:08:44,680 (laughing) 178 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:46,860 - Very consistent. 179 00:08:47,500 --> 00:08:49,100 - Yeah, that's always been the rule 180 00:08:49,190 --> 00:08:50,360 and no one questions it. 181 00:08:50,500 --> 00:08:52,200 So what would you like to do? 182 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:53,720 You wanna kick it to someone else 183 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:54,500 or do you wanna take it? 184 00:08:54,580 --> 00:08:56,360 You gonna kick the ball or you gonna receive? 185 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:57,180 - Who's gonna volunteer? 186 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,660 If there's any, are there any volunteers before I? 187 00:09:00,220 --> 00:09:01,420 - You got this, Russell. - All right, I'll start. 188 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:02,100 - Do it. 189 00:09:03,199 --> 00:09:04,960 - So I do a lot of, like, 190 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,000 I do a decent amount of traveling for work 191 00:09:07,560 --> 00:09:08,860 and I have children. 192 00:09:09,540 --> 00:09:12,260 And I've realized that when I go on these trips, 193 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,440 they usually have these books about the place I'm going to 194 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:17,760 and I buy them on the way home 195 00:09:18,180 --> 00:09:19,960 and I realize when I read the book, 196 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:21,580 I'm like, this is great content. 197 00:09:21,580 --> 00:09:25,340 I wish I had read this book before I had gone. 198 00:09:25,340 --> 00:09:26,400 - This is a regular thing? 199 00:09:26,540 --> 00:09:27,960 You buy it on the way home always? 200 00:09:28,300 --> 00:09:30,560 airports usually have like, you know, 201 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,380 or like, there'll be like a gift shop, right, 202 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,400 in Boulder or somewhere and they'll have 203 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:37,520 like a special book there. 204 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:39,060 Like, oh cool, this is Boulder. 205 00:09:39,140 --> 00:09:40,600 And then like, whoa, I should have gone 206 00:09:40,610 --> 00:09:42,840 to the Celestial Seasonings frickin' thing, right? 207 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:44,900 Or like, all this other stuff. 208 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:47,280 I've been here for a week and I didn't even know. 209 00:09:47,780 --> 00:09:49,660 So I guess my thought would be like, 210 00:09:50,130 --> 00:09:52,940 you would buy these books before you travel 211 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:56,040 to help my kids also know where I'm going. 212 00:09:56,660 --> 00:09:58,680 And then if I go to those spots, 213 00:09:58,940 --> 00:10:03,500 they could connect with me and like with those books, right? 214 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:05,580 So we read the children's books every night. 215 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:07,780 Oh, I'm gonna be in Louisville, right? 216 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:09,120 This was a really cool book. 217 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,180 They have a giant baseball bat there. 218 00:10:11,780 --> 00:10:13,880 They have like cool caves and a river. 219 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,520 And I learned all this stuff at the end of my trip. 220 00:10:17,020 --> 00:10:18,480 And there's one for Vermont too, 221 00:10:18,740 --> 00:10:19,780 which we go there all the time. 222 00:10:19,820 --> 00:10:23,239 But like, it'd be cool to have like an add-on 223 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:26,500 or something for like traveling dads or in general 224 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,580 to give the kids, 'cause I end up buying a gift anyway 225 00:10:30,790 --> 00:10:32,440 or something to keep them entertained. 226 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:35,560 But they want to be a part of my travel experience, 227 00:10:35,590 --> 00:10:36,560 I just don't know how. 228 00:10:37,090 --> 00:10:39,120 And so these books would be a great way to do that. 229 00:10:40,140 --> 00:10:41,080 Or more, right? 230 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:45,320 If I could buy like a gift basket too or pre-buy it maybe, 231 00:10:45,500 --> 00:10:46,240 'cause I'm just gonna come home 232 00:10:46,260 --> 00:10:48,060 with a bunch of bullshit anyway. 233 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:51,380 I mean, might as well pre-buy that, right? 234 00:10:51,380 --> 00:10:51,880 Or something. 235 00:10:52,300 --> 00:10:55,580 And yeah, so I think it'd be a cool package, right? 236 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:56,120 That's it. 237 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:57,500 Cities would love it. 238 00:10:58,800 --> 00:10:59,280 And yeah. 239 00:10:59,300 --> 00:11:01,520 - Do you often fly or do you drive? 240 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:03,040 - Fly, fly. 241 00:11:03,180 --> 00:11:04,360 I'm always flying for work. 242 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,180 - This should be the airport gift shop 243 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:09,760 in the departures area, right? 244 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,900 It's got like all the major hubs 245 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:14,460 that are likely to be flown to. 246 00:11:14,940 --> 00:11:16,620 If you're in the Detroit airport, 247 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:20,380 why is there so many Detroit swag stores? 248 00:11:20,580 --> 00:11:24,360 There should be like, you're going to Houston and Atlanta 249 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:25,720 and Sacramento and stuff. 250 00:11:25,820 --> 00:11:27,300 Make like the little, like, 251 00:11:27,900 --> 00:11:31,280 here's where you can expect to go shop, right? 252 00:11:31,980 --> 00:11:34,480 - Ooh, I'm a Spitball of that, Leo. 253 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:36,400 Why don't you make like a vending machine 254 00:11:36,780 --> 00:11:39,700 that like can customize it to anywhere 255 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:40,880 that you're coming from, right? 256 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:42,760 So if I wanted to buy a book for Houston. 257 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:44,000 - I like the Princeton on demand. 258 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:45,580 - Princeton on demand. 259 00:11:46,140 --> 00:11:47,180 What else am I gonna be doing 260 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:48,200 sitting around at this airport? 261 00:11:49,180 --> 00:11:56,940 vending machine with infinite infinite selection you can you can buy a blank and just print it 262 00:11:56,940 --> 00:12:03,480 right there they just load it with like 10 20 and 40 page blanks and boom the entire like soul out 263 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:09,380 of this oh yeah i just came from houston but i bought this blanket in grand rapids it's just 264 00:12:10,460 --> 00:12:16,059 that's awesome it's amazing russell i really want to add to this idea but it's literally my pitch 265 00:12:16,060 --> 00:12:21,120 next but it's gonna fit perfect with you on here. Oh that's fun. I think we just gotta bring this in 266 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:25,800 on it. All right yeah let's pivot. Do it. Just do it. We're doing a hybrid. No no we will continue 267 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:31,440 on yours I promise you but uh yeah if we if you and I did that um if you pitch yours can we go 268 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:35,420 back and forth between these ideas and build them? Absolutely. Well then just do it. Absolutely. Hit 269 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:43,560 us with your pitch now. Okay. Phone go baby. Russell and I did a weekend startup way back 270 00:12:43,500 --> 00:12:50,800 when we did like a local community business sponsored coloring book where like these books 271 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:55,000 would be given out for free and then a local business could sponsor a page like some mom and 272 00:12:55,070 --> 00:13:01,080 pop coffee shop would be like this is my picture for this coloring book here. I recently occurred 273 00:13:01,140 --> 00:13:06,980 to me that like sorry putting a dollar in the AI jar but you could one of the hardest things we 274 00:13:07,100 --> 00:13:10,740 struggled with was generating the pictures for this guy like who's going to be the artist for 275 00:13:10,540 --> 00:13:12,240 for these because this is back in like 2019. 276 00:13:12,940 --> 00:13:17,280 We could AI generate coloring books on this now, but Russell, you could have Russell's 277 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:17,660 adventure. 278 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:18,700 You went out to Italy. 279 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:23,340 This is a coloring book for your kids where this is Russell at the Leaning Tower of Pisa. 280 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:25,940 This is Russell at the Coliseum or whatever. 281 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:31,080 And just all of these auto-generated based upon where Russell's going so they could color 282 00:13:31,180 --> 00:13:34,120 it and then Russell gets home and they can show him, "I saw you here." 283 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:35,400 And I could take photos. 284 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,240 Yeah, that's awesome, Scott. 285 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,620 - We have a nice little caricature of Russell 286 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:43,600 doing all these cool things on his trip. 287 00:13:44,180 --> 00:13:46,480 - Did you guys ever make a Flat Stanley in school? 288 00:13:47,180 --> 00:13:47,920 Or read the book Flat Stanley? 289 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:49,140 - I know of Flat Stanley. 290 00:13:49,180 --> 00:13:50,880 - That's where you travel with the hamster, right? 291 00:13:51,070 --> 00:13:51,760 - Is it the hamster? 292 00:13:52,140 --> 00:13:53,780 - There's this, it's a book about a kid 293 00:13:53,780 --> 00:13:56,140 who gets flattened by a bulletin board above his bed, 294 00:13:56,560 --> 00:13:58,420 and then it turns into this school project 295 00:13:58,580 --> 00:14:00,200 where kids will either make themselves, 296 00:14:00,620 --> 00:14:02,440 like I was Flat Marie, and then I mailed it 297 00:14:02,500 --> 00:14:04,400 to one of my aunts, and like Flat Marie 298 00:14:04,420 --> 00:14:05,560 went on all these adventures. 299 00:14:06,100 --> 00:14:08,100 So I'm thinking, what if this was like a series 300 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:10,540 where you have like, I don't know, 301 00:14:10,680 --> 00:14:11,880 Joseph the Worm or something, 302 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:15,040 and it's all about Joseph the Worm goes to Paris, 303 00:14:15,460 --> 00:14:18,020 Joseph the Worm goes to Rome. 304 00:14:18,620 --> 00:14:19,940 He's not Joseph the Worm. 305 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:22,180 But whatever character, 306 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:24,300 and then you don't even have to be like 307 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,040 regenerating all these things for specific, 308 00:14:27,620 --> 00:14:31,900 once it's made for your trip to France, 309 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,399 then you can get slightly more detailed 310 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:37,260 into like recommendations from locals or something 311 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:40,180 if they wanted to use it as like a travel hook. 312 00:14:40,540 --> 00:14:42,220 - It's crazy that we're bringing this up. 313 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:44,520 I was literally today thinking about an upcoming, 314 00:14:44,740 --> 00:14:48,340 I'm going on my first road trip with my family in April-ish 315 00:14:48,420 --> 00:14:50,680 and we're gonna drive across a couple of states. 316 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:52,140 And I was thinking like, 317 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:55,100 should I make like a map for them for every day, 318 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:58,220 some sort of log or like, how do I do this? 319 00:14:58,300 --> 00:15:00,420 But if I could give them each a little coloring book 320 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,720 that was like information about where we're going 321 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:10,660 Pictures and stuff about the destinations for those they can be in the coloring book - sure with Joseph the worm 322 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:13,740 Which is the worm? He's the tour guide 323 00:15:15,020 --> 00:15:15,860 the tour guide 324 00:15:17,150 --> 00:15:22,720 It would be good to have like a binding thread some sort of character. That's like, you know taking our family along or something 325 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:24,700 Yes, yes. Yes guiding you through the whole thing 326 00:15:26,300 --> 00:15:33,000 Yeah, so what's cool Scott about like by connecting what I'm actually doing to the coloring book 327 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:34,440 that'd be so legit, right? 328 00:15:34,500 --> 00:15:36,000 Like, here is where I'm gonna be today. 329 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:38,800 Why don't you color this page while I'm there, right? 330 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:42,700 - Yeah, and you try to recreate the picture with it all. 331 00:15:42,980 --> 00:15:44,460 - That'd be awesome, exactly. 332 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:46,540 Now your kid, it's more about like, 333 00:15:47,340 --> 00:15:50,520 like asynchronous connection, right, with your kids. 334 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:52,620 And it's like, that's where I was. 335 00:15:52,900 --> 00:15:55,360 You colored the page that I was on, like where I was at, 336 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:56,620 and here's the photo, right? 337 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:58,760 I'm usually sending videos after, 338 00:15:59,060 --> 00:16:01,180 like when they're, by the time they're going to bed, 339 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,000 you know, sometimes because it's so late. 340 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:05,940 So like, that would be so cool though. 341 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,620 And you AI generate it, or maybe I take the photo. 342 00:16:09,300 --> 00:16:10,940 I guess part of me is like, if I take the photo 343 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,180 and then they print it or something, 344 00:16:13,530 --> 00:16:16,100 and then they color it, but who has printers? 345 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:19,020 But something to that effect, right? 346 00:16:20,140 --> 00:16:21,880 - Just becomes a printer selling business, 347 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:23,620 strictly for this reason. 348 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:25,560 - It doesn't seem-- - You gotta buy 349 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:26,800 this printer hardware first. - Coloring book printer. 350 00:16:26,940 --> 00:16:28,700 - Coloring book printer, boy, we just don't use 351 00:16:28,700 --> 00:16:29,140 our coloring book printer. - It only prints 352 00:16:29,140 --> 00:16:29,840 in black and white. 353 00:16:30,420 --> 00:16:30,760 - Yeah, exactly. 354 00:16:31,420 --> 00:16:31,600 - Hey. 355 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:36,140 - Yeah, I think our ideas come together because we buy, 356 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,640 like if we get businesses to sponsor this stuff, 357 00:16:39,820 --> 00:16:41,080 to like sponsor the pages, 358 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:43,420 we're just making money everywhere. 359 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:47,880 Sponsored book, like the book is sponsored, right? 360 00:16:48,380 --> 00:16:51,520 We don't pay a cent, and then it's AI generated, 361 00:16:51,860 --> 00:16:53,580 and then we sell on top of it. 362 00:16:53,700 --> 00:16:55,660 It's just, I don't know how we lose. 363 00:16:56,010 --> 00:16:57,840 - You charge your kids a subscription fee, 364 00:16:57,930 --> 00:16:58,500 like it's perfect. 365 00:16:59,500 --> 00:17:00,480 I mean, maybe, right? 366 00:17:01,140 --> 00:17:02,800 - Turn past the Panda Express page 367 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:04,459 straight to the Exxon page, honey. 368 00:17:04,540 --> 00:17:05,560 You're gonna love this one. 369 00:17:06,780 --> 00:17:07,180 (laughing) 370 00:17:08,060 --> 00:17:08,959 I don't know about that. 371 00:17:10,020 --> 00:17:11,120 - Really, I really like the idea 372 00:17:11,199 --> 00:17:13,420 of the tour guide on there too part. 373 00:17:13,540 --> 00:17:17,339 Like Russell's, Russell family has their dog Maya 374 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:18,880 and like Maya could be the guide 375 00:17:18,959 --> 00:17:20,100 throughout this whole thing or something. 376 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:21,959 There's something directly related to them. 377 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,800 Cookie and Pixel are bringing Russell through Italy. 378 00:17:25,900 --> 00:17:26,680 There's a lot happening there. 379 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:28,480 - Yeah, dude, that's so cool. 380 00:17:28,900 --> 00:17:33,640 The Flant Stanley idea, I think I know what you mean by that. 381 00:17:33,820 --> 00:17:36,340 You're bringing it around and you're writing that story. 382 00:17:36,940 --> 00:17:38,120 That's really cool too. 383 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:44,700 I guess if they had something at home that would connect to who I'm-- 384 00:17:44,700 --> 00:17:51,120 If I'm bringing Flant Stanley with me or something, if they had the partner Stanley or whatever. 385 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:54,540 The stuffed animal that is included in it or something. 386 00:17:54,900 --> 00:17:58,400 -Yes, stuffed animal that they know, but Russell brought with him on this trip 387 00:17:58,500 --> 00:18:00,140 and he was guiding him around. 388 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,600 -Our brother did the same Flat Stanley thing, but with Felix. 389 00:18:04,120 --> 00:18:05,620 Wasn't there a rabbit named Felix? 390 00:18:05,820 --> 00:18:07,940 Maybe that was me when I was a kid, but we did the same idea. 391 00:18:08,100 --> 00:18:11,860 We mailed a little stuffed rabbit to the various relatives 392 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:15,820 of all the kids in my class and he went on a road trip adventure and all that. 393 00:18:16,940 --> 00:18:20,500 -I feel like if there's some unifying mascot, 394 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:24,080 that's also a branding thing, like elf on the shelf. 395 00:18:24,580 --> 00:18:26,800 if all the kids at school are talking about like, 396 00:18:27,180 --> 00:18:29,060 "Yeah, my dad went on a business trip 397 00:18:29,060 --> 00:18:32,000 "and he brought my stuffed purple dog. 398 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,300 "Oh my gosh, I have one too." 399 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:34,740 Whatever. 400 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:36,080 - I see. 401 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:38,660 - I saw that Jeremy the dog went there 402 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:40,840 and you have Jeremy the dog going here 403 00:18:40,860 --> 00:18:43,280 and we can compare our books and yeah, yeah, for sure. 404 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:45,220 - Now we're talking. 405 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:47,840 - There used to be a character, a unifying guide. 406 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,820 - Dude, that stuff spreads like wildfire at schools too. 407 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:51,200 - Right? 408 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:52,480 - Like, yes. 409 00:18:52,660 --> 00:18:54,040 - Freaking elf on a shelf, man. 410 00:18:54,120 --> 00:18:56,840 Once one kid's got it, every parent has to have it, right? 411 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:58,260 Because every kid talks about it. 412 00:18:58,300 --> 00:19:00,340 And now it's like, well, I need to buy something 413 00:19:00,500 --> 00:19:01,700 for the grandkid, right? 414 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:02,980 I got to buy something for the nephew. 415 00:19:03,700 --> 00:19:08,520 All right, well, they just talked about purple pixel pups. 416 00:19:09,580 --> 00:19:11,320 I don't know what I'm going to call this thing. 417 00:19:11,990 --> 00:19:12,600 What do we call it? 418 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:15,580 The traveling book man. 419 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:18,240 Sisterhood of the traveling book man. 420 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:21,140 Traveling book man. 421 00:19:21,410 --> 00:19:23,479 Do you think it's that expensive to have 422 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:28,120 two or three illustrators just like knocking out black and white traceable 423 00:19:28,540 --> 00:19:33,700 like that's a very funny cuz we did all the math on this in 2019 line drawings 424 00:19:33,940 --> 00:19:37,640 like they're the whole point of coloring books is that they're not finished like 425 00:19:37,660 --> 00:19:42,540 you don't have to make it super elaborate especially for little kids get 426 00:19:42,540 --> 00:19:48,519 it it's the Eiffel Tower like yeah a triangle a big part of this coloring 427 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,380 -The second book concept was that you have to hang 428 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,820 your kids' coloring page on the fridge whether you like it or not. 429 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,520 -Oh, yes. I forgot about that. 430 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,480 -The sponsor-- -You always have that ad. 431 00:20:01,740 --> 00:20:02,220 [laughter] 432 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:05,160 -That was so brilliant, Russell. 433 00:20:05,180 --> 00:20:07,820 -The whole selling point was like that whole-- 434 00:20:07,820 --> 00:20:10,140 -We're going to get you in the center of every home. 435 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:11,800 All you got to do is sponsor. 436 00:20:12,180 --> 00:20:13,500 -Sponsored by Chase Bank. 437 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:15,700 -Be the biggest thing on their fridge. 438 00:20:16,980 --> 00:20:18,900 - Yeah, the sponsored pages are twice as big. 439 00:20:19,260 --> 00:20:19,720 - Yeah, right? 440 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:20,740 The centerfold. 441 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:22,140 - That's right. 442 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,540 - Chase Bank, huge center thing. 443 00:20:26,860 --> 00:20:27,380 That's great. 444 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,420 This is really wild, but my pitch was gonna be 445 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:33,100 about coloring pages on the fridge, so. 446 00:20:33,300 --> 00:20:34,300 - You're kidding, Leo. 447 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:34,580 - What? 448 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:35,520 (laughing) 449 00:20:36,780 --> 00:20:37,620 - Bring it in, bring it in. 450 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,120 - Marie, is your idea even remotely 451 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,040 about children's creativity output? 452 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:43,580 No? 453 00:20:43,980 --> 00:20:45,200 - You'd think, but no. 454 00:20:45,340 --> 00:20:46,120 - No, excellent. 455 00:20:46,620 --> 00:20:49,060 Well, you want to transition once more? 456 00:20:49,360 --> 00:20:50,480 - No, we're doing one super pitch. 457 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:50,880 We got this. 458 00:20:50,900 --> 00:20:52,640 - One super pitch. 459 00:20:53,940 --> 00:20:54,380 (saxophone music) 460 00:20:59,220 --> 00:21:04,160 So, we have this routine of taking kids' drawings 461 00:21:04,250 --> 00:21:06,580 in our household and putting them on the door, 462 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:07,620 on the wall, whatever. 463 00:21:08,260 --> 00:21:09,540 And then once it accumulates, 464 00:21:09,740 --> 00:21:12,400 there's the great purge that they are not privy to. 465 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:14,100 Things go in the trash. 466 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:15,960 We take a couple that we like. 467 00:21:16,420 --> 00:21:18,420 We save them forever in a box or whatever, 468 00:21:18,420 --> 00:21:20,360 and then the rest just gets garbled. 469 00:21:20,460 --> 00:21:22,400 And I think that that's what everyone does. 470 00:21:22,980 --> 00:21:26,860 Also, digitizing these things is pretty easy, 471 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:30,840 and there are established family photo frame 472 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:32,400 type services and stuff. 473 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:36,220 So I think that there should be a gamified 474 00:21:38,179 --> 00:21:42,060 kids repository of art that the kids have generated, 475 00:21:42,860 --> 00:21:46,440 that the parents digitize, add to the digital collection 476 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,280 and trash the original so that you can have the, 477 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:51,640 oh, remember when you made that collection built up 478 00:21:52,060 --> 00:21:53,420 without having the stuff accumulate. 479 00:21:54,100 --> 00:21:56,960 Maybe this is like an E-ink screen 480 00:21:57,140 --> 00:21:59,560 or maybe some sort of screen of something 481 00:21:59,960 --> 00:22:04,080 that is like the dedicated space 482 00:22:04,220 --> 00:22:05,460 for where the kids art goes. 483 00:22:05,460 --> 00:22:06,720 It does a slideshow. 484 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:08,620 I don't wanna stick another TV on my wall, 485 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,499 but something that's like a digital photo frame 486 00:22:11,500 --> 00:22:13,240 that's on the wall, that the kids, 487 00:22:13,660 --> 00:22:15,200 it's all it does is kids art, right? 488 00:22:15,340 --> 00:22:20,220 And we market it for that, and we make it the centerpiece 489 00:22:20,500 --> 00:22:23,020 of this is where art goes that you make kids. 490 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:24,700 And we make it a fun game somehow. 491 00:22:24,940 --> 00:22:26,780 I haven't figured out the gamified side of it yet. 492 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:27,820 So that's where I need your help 493 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:29,480 to help me Spitball this guy. 494 00:22:29,620 --> 00:22:33,540 But how do we solve both accumulation 495 00:22:34,419 --> 00:22:36,680 and keeping these things forever, right? 496 00:22:37,180 --> 00:22:38,000 Maybe there's like a, 497 00:22:38,900 --> 00:22:40,979 I was gonna say like a scoring or ranking 498 00:22:40,980 --> 00:22:52,520 something but that's a bad idea. Another trash one. Boy this month is just awful. 499 00:22:53,980 --> 00:23:03,840 Uninspired. Exactly, derivative. You gotta make it, no I don't you mean, the the idea of you 500 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,520 can't throw out something in front of your kids right? Exactly. So how do you 501 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,980 make it cool enough where they want to throw it out. 502 00:23:11,420 --> 00:23:12,400 I have so many. 503 00:23:12,580 --> 00:23:12,680 Yeah. 504 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,560 That's gotta be part of the process, right? 505 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,460 Like the kid is like, uh, Oh, you did it. 506 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:18,320 You finished your thing. 507 00:23:18,380 --> 00:23:19,560 You've been working on that for two days. 508 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:20,360 That's so awesome. 509 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:22,620 Let's put it in the thing. 510 00:23:22,820 --> 00:23:23,020 Right. 511 00:23:23,020 --> 00:23:25,220 And now it's added to the collection, the museum. 512 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,780 It's just a scanner and a paper shredder at the same time. 513 00:23:30,919 --> 00:23:31,720 Yeah, totally. 514 00:23:32,220 --> 00:23:35,519 It's like that one piece of art, that big, the Banksy that shredded 515 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:36,480 itself or whatever. 516 00:23:36,740 --> 00:23:37,220 (laughter) 517 00:23:38,300 --> 00:23:39,320 - Broke halfway through. 518 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,640 - My kids wrote, "I miss you, Leo," my name, 519 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,680 on a piece of paper and slid it through my door. 520 00:23:45,940 --> 00:23:47,100 And it was so cute, right? 521 00:23:47,460 --> 00:23:49,760 But then they did it like eight more times. 522 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,220 Am I supposed to keep all eight of them that are identical? 523 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:54,480 Ah! 524 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,580 So I took a picture of a couple of them 525 00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:58,960 and I have that fun memory, right? 526 00:23:59,380 --> 00:24:02,400 But if I instead said like, "Oh, that's so fun, 527 00:24:02,500 --> 00:24:05,380 Let's put it into the repository somehow. 528 00:24:05,450 --> 00:24:06,720 I feel like there's something there. 529 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,340 I really like the idea of your repository is, sorry, 530 00:24:10,490 --> 00:24:12,960 it is another screen, but the screen is on your fridge. 531 00:24:13,180 --> 00:24:13,420 Yes. 532 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,620 And it's just like permanently all of them end up there. 533 00:24:17,250 --> 00:24:20,160 I feel like for a kid to want to be part of this ritual, 534 00:24:20,340 --> 00:24:21,780 there has to be a physical component. 535 00:24:22,140 --> 00:24:26,240 They have to be able to put it into the scanner and then it disappears. 536 00:24:26,820 --> 00:24:30,419 Maybe it's connected to a box that you check the scan later 537 00:24:30,420 --> 00:24:33,480 to make sure it worked and then you throw the contents of the box away. 538 00:24:34,210 --> 00:24:34,320 Yeah. 539 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:35,420 Or something like that. 540 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,800 And then it appears across the room like magic. 541 00:24:39,360 --> 00:24:41,180 Like the television thing in Willy Wonka. 542 00:24:41,500 --> 00:24:44,180 Oh, you have the like sparkle. 543 00:24:44,360 --> 00:24:44,480 Yeah. 544 00:24:44,910 --> 00:24:47,000 Or maybe it's actually part of the device itself. 545 00:24:47,220 --> 00:24:48,040 Maybe they stick. 546 00:24:48,260 --> 00:24:53,280 And so it's a TV that's an inch thick and they can stick the art into it. 547 00:24:53,350 --> 00:24:53,600 Oh, that's good. 548 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,380 And there's an animation of it coming onto the screen, right? 549 00:24:56,580 --> 00:24:59,100 And now it's like, oh, it gets floated away 550 00:24:59,220 --> 00:25:01,860 like a paper airplane into the other ones or something. 551 00:25:03,100 --> 00:25:04,040 Shredded out the back. 552 00:25:04,820 --> 00:25:05,260 Yep. 553 00:25:05,660 --> 00:25:06,440 God burn it. 554 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:07,980 There's an incinerator. 555 00:25:09,679 --> 00:25:10,760 Save on heating bills. 556 00:25:10,940 --> 00:25:12,280 The more art you make-- 557 00:25:12,900 --> 00:25:18,220 We have to figure out how to incentivize art that takes time 558 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:22,120 because it would be very easy for them to take one marker 559 00:25:22,220 --> 00:25:22,420 line. 560 00:25:22,460 --> 00:25:24,220 I know my daughter would jump straight to, 561 00:25:24,710 --> 00:25:25,560 I spent five seconds. 562 00:25:25,740 --> 00:25:28,380 I'm feeding it in, feeding it in, feeding it in, feeding it. 563 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:29,640 This is the fun part now. 564 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,440 So it still needs to be about preserving actual stuff 565 00:25:33,540 --> 00:25:34,200 that took time. 566 00:25:34,300 --> 00:25:35,620 So I don't know how to make it like, 567 00:25:36,120 --> 00:25:37,500 wow, you spent a lot of time on it. 568 00:25:37,540 --> 00:25:39,600 Maybe there's some kind of time tracking component 569 00:25:39,780 --> 00:25:40,680 or logging or something. 570 00:25:41,060 --> 00:25:43,340 - Or you do have, you were joking about, 571 00:25:44,340 --> 00:25:45,780 let's rank these and score them. 572 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,240 But like, maybe there is like a private subtle rank 573 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:49,420 that the parents can do to be like, 574 00:25:49,500 --> 00:25:50,440 ooh, that's a nine there. 575 00:25:50,540 --> 00:25:51,420 Eh, that's a two. 576 00:25:51,820 --> 00:25:53,140 You don't need to show that one as much. 577 00:25:53,180 --> 00:25:54,180 It's still in the system, 578 00:25:54,700 --> 00:25:56,460 but we're not gonna bring it to the front much. 579 00:25:57,060 --> 00:25:57,600 - We're public. 580 00:25:58,700 --> 00:26:00,280 - You tell the people on special paper 581 00:26:01,020 --> 00:26:04,200 that it has to be covered with a certain amount of ink 582 00:26:04,410 --> 00:26:06,900 or something to be fed into the machine. 583 00:26:07,010 --> 00:26:08,400 - It has to have at least eight colors. 584 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:09,760 - Yeah. 585 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,180 - If you stick it in, it just like spits it back out. 586 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,140 Like a dollar bill in a vending machine. 587 00:26:18,360 --> 00:26:19,520 Not enough art. 588 00:26:21,460 --> 00:26:24,040 The bot has denied your sacrifice. 589 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:25,000 (laughing) 590 00:26:25,020 --> 00:26:25,480 - Wow. 591 00:26:27,360 --> 00:26:29,180 - We want to train him to have inadequacy issues. 592 00:26:29,860 --> 00:26:31,540 - That'd be cool, the multi-color thing. 593 00:26:31,620 --> 00:26:34,260 You have to use these five colors, right? 594 00:26:34,940 --> 00:26:35,780 Or something like that. 595 00:26:35,820 --> 00:26:36,840 That's really... 596 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,260 - Or like there's, oh, maybe it prompts you. 597 00:26:39,300 --> 00:26:42,220 Like this must have at least three hearts somewhere on it 598 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:43,140 or something like that. 599 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:47,720 Like they go to the piece for the inspiration. 600 00:26:49,140 --> 00:26:51,880 Today's challenge that everyone in the world is doing 601 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,760 with this one is everyone's drawing a picture of a dog 602 00:26:56,100 --> 00:27:00,400 and it has to be a dog that's wearing shoes 603 00:27:00,540 --> 00:27:03,420 and here's everyone around the world's attempts at it 604 00:27:03,460 --> 00:27:05,440 and you're like linked to other ones maybe or something. 605 00:27:06,020 --> 00:27:08,660 - And then the next day, if you show a kid 606 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,240 who's older than five a picture and you say, 607 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:16,579 "Oh, this kid won best dog with shoes yesterday." 608 00:27:16,580 --> 00:27:19,700 Today, they're gonna work real hard on their cow on Mars. 609 00:27:19,700 --> 00:27:20,780 - Oh, that's so smart. 610 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,580 - Build in that competitive nature from the start. 611 00:27:23,580 --> 00:27:26,000 - Yeah, like the Twitter account of the company 612 00:27:26,220 --> 00:27:28,940 posts the top three every day or something. 613 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,680 - Well, he won a $200 ice cream gift card. 614 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:32,800 (laughing) 615 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,420 Better luck next time with your shitty dog. 616 00:27:36,500 --> 00:27:38,940 - Get him started on social media super early. 617 00:27:39,010 --> 00:27:41,900 - They have to vote too, like for other people's paintings 618 00:27:42,100 --> 00:27:44,920 and it actually turns them into better artists, you know? 619 00:27:46,140 --> 00:27:47,020 - A little competition. 620 00:27:47,820 --> 00:27:51,280 - There's Leo trying to draw an incredible donkey 621 00:27:51,900 --> 00:27:54,560 eating a carrot to win a $200 gift card though. 622 00:27:55,820 --> 00:27:57,280 - The parents are rigging it. 623 00:27:58,440 --> 00:27:59,980 - My three year old drew this, I don't know. 624 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:01,460 - Yeah, exactly. 625 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:03,480 - This could be a really cool, 626 00:28:03,940 --> 00:28:05,320 you could do some sort of piece, 627 00:28:05,500 --> 00:28:06,860 like the paper itself, Leo. 628 00:28:07,340 --> 00:28:09,580 I don't know, like those pressure papers or whatever. 629 00:28:10,380 --> 00:28:14,620 You have a special, I'm gonna use E Ink touch screen, okay? 630 00:28:15,120 --> 00:28:19,320 They draw on it, multicolor, and then you submit it 631 00:28:19,340 --> 00:28:20,760 and it clears it, right? 632 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:22,400 Or you have a special piece of paper 633 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,020 that when you feed it into the machine, 634 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,520 it comes out the other side and the paper's clear, right? 635 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,700 So that it like, that way you don't have to keep 636 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,500 using new paper, you have to use this one sheet of paper. 637 00:28:33,500 --> 00:28:37,720 You can't start five different versions of it, you know? 638 00:28:37,740 --> 00:28:39,740 - Special markers and some kind of heat 639 00:28:39,940 --> 00:28:42,760 makes it disappear, some, hmm, that's fun. 640 00:28:42,940 --> 00:28:44,060 - There you go, right? 641 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:45,360 Or some Etch-A-Sketch. 642 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,380 They walk up to it and have to fiddle knobs. 643 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:49,480 That's right. 644 00:28:50,220 --> 00:28:54,580 That's exactly-- Etch-A-Sketch, but physical paper version 645 00:28:54,700 --> 00:28:54,980 of that. 646 00:28:55,380 --> 00:28:56,720 That's proprietary, too. 647 00:28:58,059 --> 00:29:00,400 It's a lot less intrusive in the home, too. 648 00:29:00,460 --> 00:29:01,740 It's not just a big device. 649 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,140 It's like, oh, this is a piece of paper. 650 00:29:03,700 --> 00:29:06,240 And maybe you can plug it into your phone, 651 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,860 and it will save that image somehow, 652 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:11,839 instead of having its own-- 653 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,100 or like an iPad or whatever that you already have. 654 00:29:14,860 --> 00:29:15,980 And then it's, there you go. 655 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,200 - I know, that's the downside of this 656 00:29:18,300 --> 00:29:20,000 is I don't want another screen in my house 657 00:29:20,100 --> 00:29:21,480 and I know I would, so that's my partner. 658 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:22,020 - Yes you do. 659 00:29:23,260 --> 00:29:25,360 - At one point, one of my friends had a notebook, 660 00:29:25,390 --> 00:29:28,280 like a spiral notebook that she could wash off. 661 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:30,980 And like she would scan the corner of the page 662 00:29:30,980 --> 00:29:33,660 and it would just send her notes to her Google Drive. 663 00:29:33,780 --> 00:29:35,440 - Oh, that's a nice bag. - My coworker has that too. 664 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:36,440 Yeah. - Yeah. 665 00:29:36,830 --> 00:29:39,860 'Cause then it's still physical to draw on at least. 666 00:29:40,740 --> 00:29:42,140 -Oh, you just wash it? -Reusable. 667 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,260 You just wash it with soap and water or just-- Whoa. 668 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:46,740 Like a damp rag, yes. 669 00:29:46,980 --> 00:29:49,020 -What? -It's got a waxy coating 670 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,140 and you could use it a few dozen times and stuff. 671 00:29:51,660 --> 00:29:52,280 Oh, perfect. 672 00:29:53,100 --> 00:29:54,980 -Yes. -I really want this for-- 673 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,920 All over the years, all of the t-shirts that you just had 674 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:00,400 that are just like, I don't know, 675 00:30:00,500 --> 00:30:02,120 we're sentimental in some form or another. 676 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,740 The go-to thing is like Zoe, she'll go out and she'll make a quilt 677 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,760 of all of the cool t-shirts that she's had over the years. 678 00:30:07,860 --> 00:30:11,040 Is there any way to save them before they all disappear 679 00:30:11,140 --> 00:30:14,200 or get too ratty in some way that you-- 680 00:30:14,380 --> 00:30:16,140 -I see. -Like a scrapbook? 681 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:16,940 -Scrapbook? 682 00:30:17,500 --> 00:30:19,060 Can I put them on Leo's fridge though? 683 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:20,280 That's my goal. 684 00:30:20,820 --> 00:30:23,100 -T-shirt with ink screen built in. 685 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,360 You could wear whatever shirt you want every day. 686 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,980 -Yes, I know that though. 687 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:30,880 It's not that the shirt is old. 688 00:30:31,100 --> 00:30:32,760 Maybe you just reprint the shirt. 689 00:30:33,300 --> 00:30:34,940 What if you scanned it and it-- 690 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:35,420 -Whoa. 691 00:30:35,700 --> 00:30:37,400 -This could be for anything now. 692 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,880 It's more the problem that I lose the shirt after a while. 693 00:30:40,980 --> 00:30:42,640 I'll look at an old picture of me and be like, 694 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:44,000 "Ah, I really liked that one. 695 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:44,880 "What happened to that? 696 00:30:44,940 --> 00:30:46,240 "That disappeared." 697 00:30:46,260 --> 00:30:49,920 - Bespoke custom shirt replication service is fun. 698 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,340 - What if you could print your art? 699 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:54,680 Like if you're, you know, whenever you want, 700 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,060 that's a part of your service is you can find the art 701 00:30:57,100 --> 00:30:58,900 that your kid made at any point in time. 702 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,100 If you ever want this back in your room, 703 00:31:03,020 --> 00:31:05,380 we just hit print and they send it in the mail, right? 704 00:31:05,700 --> 00:31:08,280 And you can literally, you create duplicates. 705 00:31:08,620 --> 00:31:11,980 So when you save it, it's not like it's destroyed forever. 706 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:17,280 You can pay, I know another printer service company. 707 00:31:17,540 --> 00:31:18,140 - Okay. 708 00:31:18,500 --> 00:31:22,120 - Yeah, so if you want that piece of paper again, Leo, 709 00:31:22,180 --> 00:31:24,220 after you threw it out, you have the digital version, 710 00:31:24,860 --> 00:31:27,440 you can say, "Send me another." 711 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:28,820 It's sure it's not the same. 712 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:30,540 It's a clone, right? 713 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,880 But it's, I don't know, now you have it. 714 00:31:33,940 --> 00:31:35,760 So now your kid would be way more interested 715 00:31:35,940 --> 00:31:38,120 in throwing it out 'cause they'll print another one 716 00:31:38,140 --> 00:31:38,880 if they ever want to. 717 00:31:39,140 --> 00:31:41,940 Seems is really wasteful if they just are like. 718 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:44,020 - I don't want it. 719 00:31:44,180 --> 00:31:45,140 Oh, actually I do want it. 720 00:31:45,260 --> 00:31:46,240 Actually, I don't want it. 721 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,020 Actually, you know what, I'll take another one. 722 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:49,400 - I'll print it, I'll throw it out. 723 00:31:49,460 --> 00:31:50,120 I'll print it again. 724 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:51,960 But here's another thing. 725 00:31:52,020 --> 00:31:54,720 This drawing on my wall here, as you can see, 726 00:31:55,220 --> 00:31:57,560 has got Q-tips on it, popsicle sticks, 727 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,120 and what is it, stickers? 728 00:32:01,260 --> 00:32:02,020 - So it's a 3D printer. 729 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:03,800 - Pompoms. - Multimedia. 730 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:04,140 - Yeah. 731 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:05,840 - Pipe cleaners or something, sure. 732 00:32:06,620 --> 00:32:08,820 - So I don't know if your device could do that. 733 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:10,680 Like, there's a lot of arts and crafts, 734 00:32:10,740 --> 00:32:12,040 I think, that aren't just flat. 735 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,800 And it'd be cool if you could do the parallax effect. 736 00:32:15,500 --> 00:32:17,420 - Oh, I thought you were gonna say some dude in Indonesia 737 00:32:17,580 --> 00:32:19,420 who's like gluing the Q-tip back on, 738 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,200 so you could get a copy of it. 739 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:22,000 (laughing) 740 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,680 - This looks different than the original, send it back. 741 00:32:26,180 --> 00:32:26,520 - Refund. 742 00:32:27,620 --> 00:32:28,020 (laughing) 743 00:32:30,180 --> 00:32:32,420 -Your Teemu kids art just doesn't look the same. 744 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:34,360 [laughter] 745 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:40,040 -Or just parallax video view of like, 746 00:32:40,510 --> 00:32:42,060 they have these new things where you-- 747 00:32:42,300 --> 00:32:46,540 -Parents are on the hook for 3D scanning the kids' Q-tip art. 748 00:32:47,310 --> 00:32:47,440 [laughter] 749 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,360 -Taking like hundreds of pictures and assembling a 3D model. 750 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:50,900 -It's light art. 751 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:52,360 -It's light art. 752 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,460 -The boys in engineering will figure that out. 753 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:55,340 -That's right. 754 00:32:55,660 --> 00:32:59,140 -Totally different product, convert your microwave into a 3D scanner. 755 00:32:59,540 --> 00:33:03,100 Put the product in, it rotates and takes pictures of it. 756 00:33:04,220 --> 00:33:07,300 Yeah, every household's got a 3D scanning microwave. 757 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,220 Just don't cross the modes, it'll be fine. 758 00:33:10,980 --> 00:33:17,240 It's a device that attaches to the window on the front of a microwave and takes pictures as it rotates. 759 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:19,800 After 5 minutes of bonfire. 760 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,200 I just keep getting sent PDFs of my soup. 761 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,400 Wrong button again, Grandma. 762 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:29,960 (laughing) 763 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,300 - Stop scanning your food, grandma. 764 00:33:35,580 --> 00:33:37,940 - We can call it the pretty delicious food, the PDF. 765 00:33:39,380 --> 00:33:39,900 (laughing) 766 00:33:44,180 --> 00:33:46,180 All right, Marie, what have you brought for us this week? 767 00:33:46,180 --> 00:33:50,080 - Okay, so imagine you are watching season three 768 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,020 of "RuPaul's Drag Race," and for context, 769 00:33:53,180 --> 00:33:54,780 there are currently 18 seasons. 770 00:33:55,340 --> 00:33:58,080 So my girlfriend and I consider ourselves 771 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:04,180 big fans of the show. However, we're on season like 16 and we started on 3 about 772 00:34:04,340 --> 00:34:08,460 two years ago. It's a show with like a cult following. Like people are talking 773 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:14,020 about this show every week and so if we wanted to look up anything about the 774 00:34:14,100 --> 00:34:19,980 show we could not because it will be like, "Oh yeah, you mean the winner of 775 00:34:20,159 --> 00:34:27,320 season 12?" No. I wanted to know where they got their shirt or whatever. So I'm 776 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,379 I'm proposing spoiler-free searching in social media 777 00:34:30,899 --> 00:34:33,120 that allows you to see context related 778 00:34:33,169 --> 00:34:34,340 to what you have seen. 779 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,220 So there are filters where you can be like, 780 00:34:37,780 --> 00:34:40,060 don't show me anything about "Drag Race," 781 00:34:40,060 --> 00:34:45,419 but I have seen up to, say, season 15, episode 12. 782 00:34:45,820 --> 00:34:48,020 I wanna know what people said about episode 12 783 00:34:48,550 --> 00:34:50,620 without knowing anything about episode 13. 784 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,320 So were people happy that that person got eliminated? 785 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:56,040 Were they mad? 786 00:34:56,240 --> 00:34:59,140 Was it a controversy related to this episode? 787 00:34:59,820 --> 00:35:02,080 At one point, there was a big controversy 788 00:35:02,340 --> 00:35:03,560 with one of the contestants, 789 00:35:04,540 --> 00:35:07,780 and when I was searching to figure out what it was, 790 00:35:08,060 --> 00:35:09,640 I found out when she got eliminated. 791 00:35:10,240 --> 00:35:12,180 But I just wanted to know what the scandal was. 792 00:35:12,720 --> 00:35:13,840 That's the problem. 793 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,300 - Spoiler-free context. 794 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:17,640 - So you can, I'm thinking like, 795 00:35:18,220 --> 00:35:19,460 almost like Wayback Machine vibes. 796 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:19,720 - Right. 797 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:21,620 - Like I go back to the day, 798 00:35:21,860 --> 00:35:24,100 two days after an episode was released. 799 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:25,080 - On the subreddit. 800 00:35:25,180 --> 00:35:26,180 - Yes, yeah. 801 00:35:26,660 --> 00:35:27,240 - Yeah, yeah, yeah. 802 00:35:27,340 --> 00:35:27,740 - Yes. 803 00:35:28,500 --> 00:35:30,840 - It's filter, I feel like it's date filtering. 804 00:35:31,060 --> 00:35:31,840 - Kind of, right? 805 00:35:32,100 --> 00:35:32,240 - Yeah. 806 00:35:32,240 --> 00:35:33,780 - Like a huge amount of date filtering, 807 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,560 but with everything, not just like, 808 00:35:36,900 --> 00:35:39,020 I don't know if you can do that though on Reddit, right? 809 00:35:39,060 --> 00:35:40,900 Like you can't like go back in time and like, 810 00:35:40,900 --> 00:35:43,800 I wanna see everything up until this very day 811 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:45,400 between these two days. 812 00:35:45,460 --> 00:35:46,220 - Not built in. 813 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,280 - Without somebody commenting on it and being like, 814 00:35:49,420 --> 00:35:50,780 oh yeah, you mean the person 815 00:35:50,780 --> 00:35:52,320 who got eliminated in the next episode? 816 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:53,460 - Yeah. 817 00:35:53,660 --> 00:35:54,560 - That's the issue. 818 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:55,900 - All comments. 819 00:35:55,900 --> 00:35:57,220 - I knew this for "Survivor". 820 00:35:57,460 --> 00:35:57,760 - Yeah. 821 00:35:58,300 --> 00:35:58,700 - Yep. 822 00:35:59,100 --> 00:36:01,680 There's so many reality shows that are like this. 823 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:01,900 - Yeah. 824 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:03,220 - Video games too. 825 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:04,520 There was something where I was like, 826 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,640 I want a specific hint about this one puzzle 827 00:36:07,740 --> 00:36:08,600 that I'm trying to do. 828 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,940 And I do not wanna read through 95 pages 829 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,660 of how to on how to do every single thing. 830 00:36:15,060 --> 00:36:17,100 I don't wanna watch a video of somebody doing it. 831 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,740 I just want like a little nudge in the right direction. 832 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,300 And so I listed out like, here's where I am to an LLM 833 00:36:23,300 --> 00:36:24,800 and it's still fricking ruined it for me. 834 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,300 So like, I need some way to be like, 835 00:36:27,860 --> 00:36:30,640 yeah, I need a specific piece of information. 836 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:35,020 You almost want like a dialer expert on this thing, 837 00:36:35,020 --> 00:36:37,460 like a forum post and request system 838 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,520 for somebody who's really into "RuPaul's Drag Race," 839 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,360 who can just like spell out that one thing for you 840 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,340 in real time without ruining it for you. 841 00:36:46,340 --> 00:36:50,060 You need like the people who edit the wiki about it. 842 00:36:51,260 --> 00:36:51,480 - Yeah. 843 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,880 - Ooh, oh, that's really cool. 844 00:36:54,980 --> 00:36:57,180 Like you could go get links, 845 00:36:57,980 --> 00:37:00,200 like just collect a bunch of links, you think, 846 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:04,000 and like put it into a Wikipedia and like harvest, 847 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,300 like, you know, just like put it all in one spot. 848 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:08,720 - I struggle so hard with, 849 00:37:09,300 --> 00:37:11,420 so Leo, "Dungeon Crawler Carl," 850 00:37:11,420 --> 00:37:13,260 a series that Leo has gotten me into, 851 00:37:13,860 --> 00:37:16,140 a lot of characters, a massive wiki on it. 852 00:37:16,620 --> 00:37:19,700 Every time I need to look something up, I go there, 853 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:20,740 but you're absolutely right. 854 00:37:20,780 --> 00:37:23,200 it always spoils it way down the road on there 855 00:37:23,300 --> 00:37:25,260 'cause I'm on book four and they're like, 856 00:37:25,340 --> 00:37:27,780 well, in book 19, here's what happened with this guy. 857 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,080 - Character, name this, status deceased. 858 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,840 You're like, no, dang it, why would they have that 859 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:34,400 at the top? 860 00:37:34,580 --> 00:37:35,380 Yes, exactly. 861 00:37:36,340 --> 00:37:39,300 - I was also thinking, not only do I want answers 862 00:37:39,300 --> 00:37:41,940 to questions, but I want to hear what people said about it. 863 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,920 My favorite part of reality TV is talking about it 864 00:37:45,300 --> 00:37:47,800 and I don't like to watch old reality TV 865 00:37:48,420 --> 00:37:50,220 because who am I gonna talk to about it? 866 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,320 I can't be like, have you guys heard of Survivor? 867 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:54,660 I just started on season two. 868 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,560 Nobody else is watching season two of Survivor. 869 00:37:58,260 --> 00:38:01,240 So I want to see, almost like, 870 00:38:01,370 --> 00:38:02,600 do you guys know Letterboxd? 871 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:04,360 How people will log movies? 872 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,740 If people were logging, after this episode, 873 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:13,560 I was shocked about this, or whatever. 874 00:38:13,820 --> 00:38:17,800 And then I go to that episode, and I see what people said. 875 00:38:18,230 --> 00:38:20,300 - You know how there's a whole thing around 876 00:38:20,300 --> 00:38:22,980 watch podcasts and rewatch communities and stuff. 877 00:38:23,580 --> 00:38:27,320 Why don't we like version that so that it happens asynchronously? 878 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:32,740 I'm going to sign up and subscribe for the free newsletter, the free forum or whatever, 879 00:38:32,860 --> 00:38:36,000 and you're adding in your thoughts and you're reading other people's thoughts, but they 880 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,000 don't have to happen at the same time as you. 881 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:42,680 The first few people that are watching it are building up this discussion forum thing 882 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:48,060 where it's plotting it along the timeline, and then any number of months or years later, 883 00:38:48,260 --> 00:38:53,160 else can come along and like start at episode one and follow along with the 884 00:38:53,220 --> 00:38:57,360 things that the people before them have laid out. Exactly. Like it's so weird to 885 00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:01,360 think that like content lives forever and people are starting stuff that you 886 00:39:01,980 --> 00:39:06,680 like have already experienced right? But also like when people want like if 887 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:10,540 people are gonna watch Breaking Bad or something I kind of want to hear them go 888 00:39:10,580 --> 00:39:14,320 through each season. I kind of want to. Right? That's the best part. It'd be so 889 00:39:14,420 --> 00:39:18,240 fun just as like I want to see their reaction to the Red Wedding in person or 890 00:39:18,240 --> 00:39:20,940 I was a mega fan of Lost, Community, whatever. 891 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:22,940 And I would pull up today, 892 00:39:23,220 --> 00:39:26,360 what are people who are just now watching this episode 893 00:39:26,540 --> 00:39:27,380 thinking about it? 894 00:39:27,780 --> 00:39:29,200 Because I bet that's different 895 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,380 depending on the cultural moment we're in too. 896 00:39:32,900 --> 00:39:35,860 If somebody started that one episode of Community 897 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:37,600 with the Dungeons and Dragons thing, 898 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,460 where there was blackface for a moment, 899 00:39:39,660 --> 00:39:41,540 it probably is a little bit different now, 900 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:43,180 but it's still, I don't know, 901 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,880 is that perceived different by a different generation 902 00:39:46,180 --> 00:39:47,980 or by the cultural moment we're in or something? 903 00:39:48,100 --> 00:39:50,400 Maybe it was really self-aware at the time, 904 00:39:50,460 --> 00:39:51,380 but did that age well? 905 00:39:51,980 --> 00:39:52,740 - I think you're right. 906 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:54,000 I think this is its own site. 907 00:39:54,500 --> 00:39:58,900 It's a whole new way to create and talk about media. 908 00:39:59,290 --> 00:39:59,940 - I love that. 909 00:40:00,820 --> 00:40:02,760 - It can't be the typical stuff. 910 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:04,920 And then what's cool about it is it's self-feeding, right? 911 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:06,060 I think to your point, Leo, 912 00:40:06,240 --> 00:40:09,280 like I still enjoy the thought of, 913 00:40:09,860 --> 00:40:11,920 like somebody started watching Breaking Bad 914 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,940 and they left a cool ass comment about, you know, 915 00:40:15,700 --> 00:40:17,800 season four versus season five and six. 916 00:40:17,860 --> 00:40:18,580 Is that what I'm thinking? 917 00:40:18,740 --> 00:40:20,880 Or like, I don't know, even like the office, right? 918 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,740 Like when Michael Scott leaves, 919 00:40:23,790 --> 00:40:25,660 I just wanna see everybody's reaction 920 00:40:26,100 --> 00:40:28,440 every time they leave that, you know? 921 00:40:29,630 --> 00:40:33,240 - I feel like Diversity Day and season one of Office 922 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,940 may not hit now the way that it did in, 923 00:40:37,030 --> 00:40:39,760 what was it, 2010, 2009, right? 924 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,580 Where there's like a bunch of really insensitive 925 00:40:43,100 --> 00:40:44,280 race jokes and stuff. 926 00:40:44,380 --> 00:40:46,840 You're like, what would somebody who's just watching this 927 00:40:46,820 --> 00:40:48,280 for the first time think about that, right? 928 00:40:48,740 --> 00:40:49,440 - Yeah, yeah. 929 00:40:50,380 --> 00:40:51,180 That's so true. 930 00:40:51,300 --> 00:40:55,320 And then it is cool, like when my younger cousins 931 00:40:55,540 --> 00:40:57,600 are starting to play video games or whatever 932 00:40:57,780 --> 00:40:59,620 that I used to play when I was a kid. 933 00:40:59,620 --> 00:41:01,860 And you're like, "Oh, you're playing that retro game? 934 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:03,900 Like you gotta tell me when you hit this level 935 00:41:03,900 --> 00:41:04,660 or whatever, right?" 936 00:41:04,660 --> 00:41:06,480 Or like, they're playing Minecraft for the first time. 937 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,820 And they're like, "You're like, whoa, you're playing Minecraft? 938 00:41:08,940 --> 00:41:10,520 It's just cool to, I don't know." 939 00:41:10,700 --> 00:41:12,440 - How did you ever deal with this camera 940 00:41:12,510 --> 00:41:14,380 in Super Mario 64 when you were a kid? 941 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:15,040 This is awful. 942 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:16,720 Things have gotten so much better now. 943 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:19,500 Shut up, old youngin'. 944 00:41:19,580 --> 00:41:20,460 - That's right. - Back in my day, 945 00:41:20,500 --> 00:41:21,100 we liked it. 946 00:41:22,500 --> 00:41:25,280 - It's a much more bite-sized way to approach 947 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:27,440 a fandom of any kind. 948 00:41:27,860 --> 00:41:30,520 'Cause if you think about somebody picking up 949 00:41:31,140 --> 00:41:34,800 the Lord of the Rings, Star Wars, Harry Potter, Twilight, 950 00:41:35,380 --> 00:41:37,300 any major series, 951 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,240 and they're trying to join the culture of it, 952 00:41:40,420 --> 00:41:42,900 not just read it, but, 953 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:44,460 oh, what do people think of this? 954 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,660 you're getting to invented characters and like, 955 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:50,700 no, this character would never do that 956 00:41:50,900 --> 00:41:52,900 because everybody decided. 957 00:41:53,220 --> 00:41:54,820 - Right, right, right, right. 958 00:41:54,860 --> 00:41:55,520 - Everyone decided. 959 00:41:56,300 --> 00:41:56,860 (laughing) 960 00:41:57,700 --> 00:42:00,120 - So if you're doing it episode by episode, 961 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,100 chapter by chapter, broken up in some sense, 962 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,680 you're not like, oh God, I didn't know 963 00:42:06,820 --> 00:42:09,840 that you actually thought the Malfoys were the good guys. 964 00:42:10,140 --> 00:42:12,520 'Cause I don't know. 965 00:42:13,060 --> 00:42:14,660 'Cause Slytherin is actually just misunderstood. 966 00:42:14,980 --> 00:42:16,160 I didn't get that in the books. 967 00:42:17,779 --> 00:42:20,200 Yeah, it's really easy to moderate, I feel like, too. 968 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,120 Because if you do one spoiler, everybody will just report you 969 00:42:23,140 --> 00:42:23,980 and you're banned forever. 970 00:42:24,500 --> 00:42:24,580 Right? 971 00:42:27,380 --> 00:42:28,440 Zero tolerance policy. 972 00:42:28,500 --> 00:42:29,100 Oh, absolutely. 973 00:42:29,260 --> 00:42:29,620 Just kill. 974 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:30,440 Just get rid of them. 975 00:42:31,220 --> 00:42:33,280 There could be like a, you show a comment 976 00:42:33,420 --> 00:42:36,880 to x percent of people first, like A/B test things 977 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:38,140 to different people. 978 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,040 There's got to be algorithms for that until they're vetted. 979 00:42:41,420 --> 00:42:41,600 Right? 980 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:42,500 Yeah, yeah. 981 00:42:42,780 --> 00:42:47,220 I would also love to see not only media that I cared about 982 00:42:47,350 --> 00:42:49,860 as it aired being rewatched by somebody 983 00:42:49,860 --> 00:42:52,920 and what their thoughts were because of the modern context, 984 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:54,440 but also their demographic. 985 00:42:54,890 --> 00:42:57,840 It would be very fun to see what Zoomers or Gen Alpha 986 00:42:57,940 --> 00:43:00,460 think about that thing that Millennials 987 00:43:01,310 --> 00:43:05,040 or Gen Xers or Boomers really liked, or vice versa. 988 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,960 I would do a rewatch of, I don't know, what, 989 00:43:09,220 --> 00:43:11,780 Hogan's heroes and like tell some boomers 990 00:43:12,460 --> 00:43:14,520 what I thought about it and they might find that funny 991 00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:15,920 or vice versa, you know? 992 00:43:16,659 --> 00:43:17,800 - Blazing saddles, right? 993 00:43:18,260 --> 00:43:18,520 - Right. 994 00:43:19,140 --> 00:43:20,900 - Yeah, I think about that whenever I checked 995 00:43:21,279 --> 00:43:23,980 Letterboxd reviews, like I'll log every movie I watch. 996 00:43:24,020 --> 00:43:25,100 I'm always like, this is great. 997 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:26,540 I had such a good time watching it. 998 00:43:26,660 --> 00:43:28,740 And then the type of people who are logging movies 999 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:30,580 on Letterboxd are like film bros. 1000 00:43:30,740 --> 00:43:31,220 - Yeah, sure. 1001 00:43:31,220 --> 00:43:34,140 - So I was like, two stars, the production was awful. 1002 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:36,420 I'm like, Sharknado 3, oh hell no, 1003 00:43:36,470 --> 00:43:38,120 is one of the best movies I've seen in a while. 1004 00:43:38,740 --> 00:43:39,300 I don't know. 1005 00:43:39,660 --> 00:43:40,060 - It's real. 1006 00:43:41,220 --> 00:43:41,620 (laughing) 1007 00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:42,280 - It's coming. 1008 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,620 - So like that whole structure would have to be around like, 1009 00:43:46,020 --> 00:43:48,320 is there a way to verify that you watched it? 1010 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:50,000 So you wouldn't just have people. 1011 00:43:50,460 --> 00:43:51,380 - Take a quiz. 1012 00:43:51,620 --> 00:43:52,100 (laughing) 1013 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:53,320 - You could take a-- 1014 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:54,540 - Like accelerated reader. 1015 00:43:55,240 --> 00:43:56,580 Like in elementary school 1016 00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:57,780 when you had to prove you read the book. 1017 00:43:58,480 --> 00:43:58,880 (laughing) 1018 00:44:00,060 --> 00:44:02,900 - Spark noting Breaking Bad season five. 1019 00:44:03,420 --> 00:44:03,820 (laughing) 1020 00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:05,740 - Hey, Draco. 1021 00:44:07,500 --> 00:44:10,380 I was picturing it also like I put in, 1022 00:44:10,580 --> 00:44:13,200 "I am watching How I Met Your Mother right now. 1023 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,640 Episode one, thoughts, star ratings, 1024 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,560 other people's comments after I submit mine, 1025 00:44:19,720 --> 00:44:21,080 and then I have to click next, 1026 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,180 and then it puts me onto episode two." 1027 00:44:23,180 --> 00:44:26,700 Like you can't just jump in for every show. 1028 00:44:26,700 --> 00:44:27,960 - You have to say something at that point, 1029 00:44:28,300 --> 00:44:28,980 or give your rating or whatnot. 1030 00:44:28,980 --> 00:44:30,320 - Or you have to hit the skip button. 1031 00:44:30,540 --> 00:44:35,439 Like who really wants to spoil season 17 episode two 1032 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:37,560 by clicking through every episode ever. 1033 00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:38,740 - That's a way to do it. 1034 00:44:38,940 --> 00:44:40,120 - You can see when people commented, 1035 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,160 it would be cool to get a comment back 1036 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:43,680 after like a year and a half, 1037 00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:47,220 like, "Totally agree, they should have," you know? 1038 00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,060 - "That idiot, this was a travesty. 1039 00:44:49,100 --> 00:44:50,460 How could you even blah, blah, blah?" 1040 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,180 Yeah, I'm sure people would only say 1041 00:44:52,340 --> 00:44:53,900 "totally agree" on the internet. 1042 00:44:54,820 --> 00:44:56,240 - I love your thoughts. 1043 00:44:57,340 --> 00:44:58,840 - Who's still watching in 2026? 1044 00:44:59,960 --> 00:45:00,600 - Who's here? 1045 00:45:00,700 --> 00:45:02,360 - Did you do a time capsule? 1046 00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,039 Okay, so like when a new episode of Game of Thrones 1047 00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:09,840 whatever comes out and like Reddit is going crazy and it's just like the live comments 1048 00:45:09,900 --> 00:45:15,360 of all the reaction to it on there. You have your timeline, your filters like bring the 1049 00:45:15,980 --> 00:45:20,220 just have the feedback of what was happening way back when when that first aired and you 1050 00:45:20,220 --> 00:45:22,900 could see all those original comments in real time. Real time? 1051 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,420 Yeah, you gotta like freeze it somehow. Yeah. 1052 00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:27,360 Mm hmm. 1053 00:45:27,820 --> 00:45:33,380 Yeah, the Dance Moms rewatch podcast that I confess that I listen to. Um, they end every 1054 00:45:33,380 --> 00:45:38,200 episode with like yeah fans thought that Maddie was robbed and they thought that 1055 00:45:38,380 --> 00:45:45,280 Nia's solo was very good but judged poorly whatever yeah sure and so I don't 1056 00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:51,300 know if they're getting that from AI or what but I'm assuming just based on the 1057 00:45:51,340 --> 00:45:56,200 way they read it it sounds kind of like something produced by like chat GPT of 1058 00:45:56,220 --> 00:46:01,220 like what did people say about yeah this episode of Dance Moms but something like 1059 00:46:01,100 --> 00:46:05,780 that's but all that stuff has totally been influenced since then right like 1060 00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:10,100 there's no way to know like is that just the collective thoughts of people 1061 00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:14,440 between ten years ago and now or is that really what people thought ten years ago 1062 00:46:14,580 --> 00:46:18,500 yeah that's why you somehow got to lock it up I totally get you like I like the 1063 00:46:18,540 --> 00:46:22,880 idea of seeing number of comments per episode because like what if I saw an 1064 00:46:22,900 --> 00:46:25,440 episode that I didn't think was controversial and then like there's so 1065 00:46:25,500 --> 00:46:29,280 many people talking about it but then what if you well I know my opinion of it 1066 00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,680 Yeah, what if you have people re-watch a show? 1067 00:46:32,140 --> 00:46:35,180 Like re-watch the series and leave a comment after 1068 00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,420 and it's like, oh, well that's, then they would get banned. 1069 00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:38,800 Right? 1070 00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:39,600 And you know what else? 1071 00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,520 Even in real time, if you're watching the show 1072 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:47,400 as it's airing, I feel like people bandwagon so hard 1073 00:46:47,720 --> 00:46:50,440 that if you prevent them from posting. 1074 00:46:51,260 --> 00:46:51,700 Yes. 1075 00:46:51,940 --> 00:46:53,800 Prevent them from reading other people's posts 1076 00:46:53,980 --> 00:46:57,280 until they have posted, that will probably solve 1077 00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:02,540 lot of your reviews problems, right? So you can't post because you haven't watched it yet, and you 1078 00:47:02,620 --> 00:47:07,660 can't read other people's posts because you haven't done it yet, even if it's five years after 1079 00:47:07,860 --> 00:47:12,840 Air Date or whatever, you don't get to see anything about the cultural zeitgeist until you add your 1080 00:47:12,860 --> 00:47:17,860 own thoughts first. That would be really interesting reviews. Everyone's in the Reddit comments like, 1081 00:47:17,940 --> 00:47:23,060 "Yeah, for sure. I definitely thought that was poorly dialogued." You're like, "Come on, you 1082 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:24,780 you don't know how to be a Hollywood writer. 1083 00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:25,640 You don't really know. 1084 00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:26,440 (laughing) 1085 00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:26,740 Right? 1086 00:47:27,540 --> 00:47:28,500 That's interesting. 1087 00:47:29,500 --> 00:47:31,560 - Yeah, people will talk about Drag Race 1088 00:47:31,660 --> 00:47:35,220 and be like, "Oh, the lip sync between Latrice Royale 1089 00:47:35,340 --> 00:47:36,560 "and Ben de la Creme." 1090 00:47:36,660 --> 00:47:38,840 We all remember that one. 1091 00:47:39,300 --> 00:47:42,140 And I'm like, "I've figured out actually. 1092 00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:43,480 "I forgot about that one. 1093 00:47:43,500 --> 00:47:47,100 "I'm sure it was great, but I don't remember it." 1094 00:47:47,100 --> 00:47:50,340 And so I kinda wanna know what the zeitgeist is also 1095 00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:51,820 at the same time. 1096 00:47:52,420 --> 00:47:56,560 original thought to that'd be nice, you know, I get yeah 1097 00:47:57,180 --> 00:48:00,680 Yeah, it would lead to a lot more diversity of thought wouldn't it? That's interesting 1098 00:48:01,020 --> 00:48:05,480 I get so mad at Anthony where I'll go out and see a movie and he'll go out and watch a 1099 00:48:05,740 --> 00:48:11,760 Youtuber view of the movie and have really strong opinions on and I'll be like you didn't even see it like I like that part 1100 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:15,000 What are you talking about? 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