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I'm Scott. I'm Russell. I'm Leo. This is Spitball.

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Welcome to Spitball, the Pitchin' Kitchen, where three lovable scamps, and usually a

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plus one as well, empty their heads of startup and tech product ideas that we have stuck

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up in here so you can all have them for free. Anything that we say is yours to keep. And

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today we have a guest. Yep. This week's guest, this is my partner in creative chaos. And

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please welcome my creatively insightful and endlessly supportive wife, CJ.

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Yay. Welcome. Happy to be here.

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Welcome. All right, Russell, what do you got? So recently I've been getting into Zoom transcriptions.

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So I've been downloading Zooms, transcribing them, and I get to read how terrible I sound

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on Zoom. Sorry, it's not that I sound terrible. It's that when I read the transcript, I cannot

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believe anybody would listen to me. I don't know how anybody...

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So let's start a podcast. I guess a podcast, my flow is just right for

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it. But in a professional setting, I cannot believe how many ellipses Zoom had to just

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transcribe for me. All I have to say is there needs to be a solution. And I've come up with

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one to solve my problem. It's called Don't Sound Stupid.

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Is this a tattoo that you get or something? Don't. Don't do it.

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So basically, as you're talking in real time, it will notify you when you use um, like,

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sound stupid. However, you set the app to make you sound as smart or dumb as you want,

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I guess. Stupid. Sorry. I don't know if that's even politically correct, but just making

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sure that you're... Sorry, not dumb. Stupid. To be clear, stupid.

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I have a cousin who's dumb, so I can say it. Notification, I got a stupid alert. But that's

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it. It's just telling you and that way you can self-correct in real time. You're like,

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oh, I'm saying my light is flickering like crazy. And this kind of goes back to a previous

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episode and we have a little notification light that appears, Scotty B, that appears

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every time I sound stupid, right? This is awesome. I have so many thoughts on

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this. Me too.

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Well, OK, starting with just the app there, like if you have a meter that you're asking

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or a slide bar for how smart or stupid you're going to be, what happens if you put it all

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the way in stupid? Does it like shock you every time that you say a word over two syllables

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or something? See, that's the monetization model, Scott.

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You really can't solve your problems. It's the DLC.

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You just start shocking yourself in the middle of the call.

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Oh, I'm going to have a nervous breakdown. So you can set it to sound dumb or stupid.

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Are you saying that you're being notified every time you could sound smart, so it's

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a reward system and or you're notified every time you sound stupid as like, hey, don't.

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I didn't think about positive reinforcement in this. I only thought of just the stick,

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not the carrot.

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Yeah. Yeah. Losing money every time I sound stupid. I don't know. I hope that's never

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a thing because every time you say it donates five dollars to Goodwill or something.

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Oh, boy. So what are you imagining this software only on an existing phone or is this a hardware

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product? I'm picturing a bracelet that zaps you like a shock collar, you know.

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Dude, that would work. Like, you know, have my Apple Watch just vibrate every time I'm

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sound like an idiot.

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Amazon Alexa had a thing where you'd wear their fitness tracker. I think it's gone now.

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Was it the halo? And you would wear it all day and then it would tell you like you were

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really upset today. You were very angry sounding. Your tone wasn't very good in that meeting

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or whatever. It would have like all day recording locally and it would tell you sentiment analysis.

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So this is not unprecedented. And they didn't sell at all. So maybe you could buy all the

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hardware and reflash it from.

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Man, Amazon seems to have warehouses of failed hardware that they just can't get rid of.

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Right. I think it was called the halo. And yeah, it was a somewhat similar idea, but

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I don't think it was real time. You could have like a mood ring that knows. Yeah. The

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hardware could be really easy for this to microphone, a simple bracelet that vibrates

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Bluetooth to your phone.

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I think you should you should just create an app that has like Google Alexa Apple integration.

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So like it simply pings that. Oh, to your smart watch.

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Every time they say like, yeah. So whatever device you already have, it's just an integration.

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The microphone's got to be on all the time.

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Even if it like. Unless you want to make hardware. I'm pro software because then it's like. Pro

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hardware. Super simple. It's like a zoom add on. Like I just click a button that says,

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all right, I download this app and it's called Don't Sound Stupid. And just lights up the

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box around you, right? Or something every time you say or whatever.

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I have been in zoom and Google Meet meetings where there's another participant that's just

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a robot, like a third party transcription service that the person has paid a subscription

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for. So it's not unprecedented to have some sort of, you know, feedback bot that's also

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listening to what you're doing.

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I wonder, I don't know how much the lag time is on a call that it would you'd be able to

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notice this or not, but could you slow your own self, your feed into the universe down

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by half a second and then have it automatically take out the ums live?

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Scott. That's. Yes. Oh my God.

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That's what I was. Yes.

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It's like the broadcast television bleep button with 20 seconds off or whatever.

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We'd have to do it so quick.

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You have 12 allotted ums in three seconds that will divvy out. Point two five. We'll

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fast forward you.

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Live streamers would love this. They would never be canceled, right? If they say a bad

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word or they say something stupid, like not more than stupid, just bad.

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Like don't fail at life. We sell that. And any time that's like, OK, you said something

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that's controversial. We just erase it. I don't know. But it never goes out into the

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So this this idea is replacing like censorship.

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It's self-censorship. You see your own brain.

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Hey, it's just a foresight. It's like spell check, but for life in real time.

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Whoa. I mean, if we're all it could be on zoom calls the rest of our lives.

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Yeah. We are right. We don't have to see each other in person ever again.

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Just spell check our life. What is reality, Scott?

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I need a pun for this.

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All right. I think we need this installed right away.

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I need this now, please. Somebody like this is why we make this podcast.

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I don't know, Russell. I still think if we did some form of hardware that would shock

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someone every time they said the word around them, I would. And I knew that a person was

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wearing that bracelet. I would just go right up next. I'm go all day long.

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That's what I was picturing. It's like real time transcribing you. And every time you

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actually say the word is when it gets recognition.

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Yeah. Even just a little vibrate or something. Yeah, totally.

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It doesn't have to be pain. It can just be a little like hum. Yeah.

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A hum.

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They have a device specifically for people with trichotillomania, which is where they

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pull their hair out that like you program the action or whatever you're doing to recognize

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when you're about to do something because it can be so mindless and it just vibrates.

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All it does is interrupt your thought patterns. So I mean, if that can aid or cure that, like

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I think that that would work well for making people less stupid.

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Stupid sounding.

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Hey, are you stupid? Do you want to stop? Don't be stupid.

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What a great ad, though.

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It writes itself.

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The end. Give us money. I don't know, Russell. I think this is brilliant, though. This is

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a great idea.

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Oh, I have a quick story. I just had to chime in about the cringiness of hearing your own

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voice. So a previous job, I did a ton of user interviews and often transcribed. So looking

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through what I was saying, I had to re-listen to it. Somehow, by the grace of God, I downloaded

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it to my iTunes library. And there was one point I was driving my car and had my phone

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on shuffle. And I just had audio of myself stumbling through this user interview. I'm

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like, what the fuck is going on? And it was just the most unhinged moment of my driving

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career. It was horrible. It was not awesome. It's like, you know, customer service voice,

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too. So I'm like, oh, my God, you sound dumb. You have your professional woman voice on.

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It was just not good.

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How does don't sound stupid dominate the world? How does it become the number one app on the

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App Store?

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Well, you got to make it cool. As you were talking, I was thinking, is there going to

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be a stigma around people who are wearing the bracelet? Like, oh, really, you're enhancing

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yourself? You have to buzz every time you say, um, sort of thing. So how do you make

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it the limitless pill but hardware where people are jealous of it and want it?

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Oh, well, don't don't make new hardware for it. Just embed it into whatever you're wearing.

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If they're worried about that, just have it like as a part of Apple Watch or Fitbit or

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Towing.

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Yeah, I mean, Apple Watch. Yes. Dude, it works great on a watch app, right? Just put on your

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watch just instant.

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Sure. The Apple Watch has enough hardware to make that happen. Now, I don't know about

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battery, but yeah, it could probably exist today.

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Only good for forums. The less stupid you sound, the longer battery life. That's what

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There's a carrot.

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That's the negative feedback. What's the positive? You get an award. You get a scholarship. If

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you don't sound stupid.

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I've got it.

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Diploma.

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I've got it. You've got your challenges with other people. You make it social. You've got

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like your leaderboards and you have your friends who are all competing to have.

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I said the word like three times today. Beat that.

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Exactly.

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Oh, that's brilliant.

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I had a run on sentence that went on for 58 words. So I lost 10 points.

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I don't think people are into the whole like digital online competition scene anymore, though.

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It's that moment past.

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It seems so specific.

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I thought all you Apple Watch people are like, this person just worked out.

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It's a celebration together. It's not like a competition.

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Close my rings.

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That's like something you just like opt into. It's not. I don't know. Maybe some people

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do use it to compete, but it's like, do you want to have notifications from this person?

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It's like, yes, of course.

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Well, then you can just gamify it for yourself. Like have your own leaderboard. You try to

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one up your like count less than last week or whatever.

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Maybe those that are competitive.

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Yeah, definitely would want some analytics.

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Gamify it is a great idea.

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How do I make money on this?

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How do I make money on this idea?

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Isn't that part of your pitch?

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Hey, somebody make this. Somebody make this app and then figure out how to make money

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with it. All right. This is why we do this podcast.

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You just have to sell it. What do you... I don't understand. You charge $2.99 a month

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or whatever. What do you...

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Oh, for a dollar? That's too much money. I can't pay $2 a month to sound smart.

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To sound smart in your meeting and get that promotion? It pays for itself.

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Wow, you know...

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Asterisk, asterisk, not guaranteed.

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I guess it doesn't solve the fact that you may be stupid. It just will make you sound

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less stupid. Maybe that's what's next.

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Well, at the end of the day, it can give you a summary like, hey, I noticed you use the

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word great 12 times today. Maybe try a longer word like excellent or fantastic. You know,

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it can like hint at the end of the day through your transcript, feed it through GPT form.

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What are five tips you might have for me improving my vocabulary and rewording stuff and organizing

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Based on all of this data.

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I say awesome and cool so much.

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Or we just straight up do what everyone's accusing all the other cell phone and social

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media companies. Just actually listen to what they're saying and then shoot them ads depending

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Whoa.

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I noticed your cousin was talking about the Denver Broncos. Here's some shoes. Yeah.

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That's the world domination model, Scotty.

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World domination model.

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Everything you say will be sent to third parties and we will make so much money.

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That's awful.

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It's free. It's so bad.

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It's so dystopian.

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Are you guys familiar with Grammarly?

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The like spell check plugin.

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It's a similar like embedded interface across your Zoom calls, your Google chat, your teams,

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whatever that was like.

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That was the way you went about it versus mobile.

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Because I think the setting most people would be in would probably be a Zoom call where

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they want to sound not stupid.

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Yes.

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If you wanted to pivot out of the native space.

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Solves the whole battery thing and mobile processing thing and stuff.

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You just have it be an add on in your call.

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That makes sense.

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Or a browser extension or something.

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Got a lot of options here, Russell.

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Well, what if you could make other like, you know, you could quantify other people in your

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meetings sounding stupider than you.

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Show the metrics to your boss at the end of the year.

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Leaderboard.

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Hey, so my performance review.

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That's the Russell twist I wanted.

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That is the Russell twist I was waiting for.

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So your business buys this and makes it mandatory in all of your calls and then turns the employees

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against each other.

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So initially it was like it was guilting yourself and now it's shaming your coworkers.

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And I love that.

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As an employee, I would quit immediately.

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All right, Scott, what do you got?

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All right.

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This isn't really an idea.

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This is just a half-baked thought that I am very excited about, but I don't know what

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to do with this information.

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So we had a EMC conference in our hometown.

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People from all over the world are coming in to learn about EMC and electronics.

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And during this conference in a seminar, some people from Boeing said, hey, you know, all

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your like home IoT devices, anything that uses a microphone like your Google Home, your

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Alexas or whatnot, all of them can hear at a much higher frequency than humans can.

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Like they go up to the full spectrum of sound going through, not just what humans can hear.

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And they just for fun threw an Alexa and a couple of Google Homes and some chambers and

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figured out that like the optimal frequency for these is six gigahertz, which is just

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crazy high.

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It's well beyond what humans can say or hear.

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So you could create some sort of device that could emit a sound at a frequency that all

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IoT devices could hear, but no other human could.

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And my first immediate thought is just messing with someone like I could go into their house

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and then just constantly be playing noises on my phone to be like, purchase blah, blah,

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blah, confirm order, and then just do that again and again and again.

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But I feel like there's got to be a better use besides just pranking my friend here.

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TV remotes are called clickers because for a long time, not a long time, some early models,

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you'd press the button, it would make a really loud ultrasonic click.

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And that was how the TV knew that you pressed a button.

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It was a clicker.

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Click, click, click, click, click.

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Oh, just a different frequencies going through?

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Yeah.

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This one's power, this one's volume, whatever.

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It was sending, I think they like struck a rod in the remote itself.

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Oh, wow.

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So could you use this as control of some kind?

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Is there a time where like the ringtone that only teenagers can hear, is there a time where

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you want to make a sound that only machines can hear?

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I forgot about that one.

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Yeah.

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But it can still understand full human words at that frequency.

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Oh.

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Full commands.

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I just got to project it at six gigahertz.

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I see what you're saying.

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You still have the frequency variations of a sentence structure.

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It's just so high.

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Okay.

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So you could construct the sentence, Alexa, please turn on the lights or whatever.

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Exactly.

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And we could do that right now, just play it at that frequency and you have a valid

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command to any Alexa or Google Home in the world right now.

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It seems like a good way to do a burglary.

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You'd say, please unlock the front door and you play it really loud out the window.

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Just blast it outside their door.

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All of a sudden you've walked up, you've pressed a button, you have a giant loud speaker playing

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sound that they can't hear and then the door's all unlocked.

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So this is the world domination version of this idea.

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Usually they make voice recognition be required there.

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Can you do it at all?

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Maybe.

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Oh my gosh.

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Yeah.

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Well, then you just use an AI, get that person's voice, get them to say four sentences and

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play it back at that.

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You play it over the tornado sirens in your area so that you can unlock all of the neighborhood

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doors at once or start the car or whatever.

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Subscribe to this podcast.

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We're currently blasting that in the background right now at six gigahertz.

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You all just subscribed.

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So thank you all.

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That's what we got to do, Scott.

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We just got to drive down the street with our six gigahertz.

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Scott says subscribe to Spitball podcast, which by the way, you guys should do that right now as you're listening.

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So our target market is other podcasts that we're selling this to that they can play in their background.

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Right.

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I was just going to say the real core of your question is if you had the ability to make somebody else's smart speaker do something, what would you want it to do?

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OK, you could, I think, make any device smart now, maybe like you create a piece of hardware and now it can talk to the Alexa through the house because it's firing on six gigahertz.

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But then it's like, what's the difference between that and Wi-Fi?

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Right.

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But maybe it's stuff that doesn't make sense to put on Wi-Fi.

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So you just make it smart through Alexa.

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Does that make sense?

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Like, all right, let's turn off.

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I don't know.

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Turn on the washing machine.

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Right.

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Or something.

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I really like the idea of blasting it in huge speakers outside in the neighborhood, trying to unlock every door in the street to set off something in the street.

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This is so chaotic.

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You have to make a sound, and it's as if you have the ability to speak anything into someone's smart speaker.

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If you could sell this to musicians and make the command be set volume to zero and play my album, and then you get 0.7 cents from Spotify.

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That's brilliant.

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Have a very specific album name or song name.

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Yeah.

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And then just blast it in the neighborhood, set volume to zero, play this on repeat.

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We'll call this the unethical episode, but I love it.

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Well, I mean, that's the best thing that you can do here, right?

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You can do some pretty sketch stuff.

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It's only shady stuff that you can do with this.

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You pay for a local commercial, and you have your six gigahertz tone, and it broadcasts in everybody's house, and you have it set volume to zero.

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Do something.

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Set volume to zero.

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Set volume to zero and play my album.

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That's the only thing I can think of.

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Subscribe to my podcast.

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I'm not maliciously brained enough, I guess.

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I can't think of other good uses for triggering someone else's.

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It was like when I used to pick someone up from your business that you guys used to run, and I would sit outside and Chromecast Rick Astley.

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How can I remotely do something like that?

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I suppose you could just Rick Roll everybody.

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You could just Rick Roll everybody.

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There you go.

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Easy.

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We found it.

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Rick Roll app.

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It Rick Rolls everyone within like a...

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We'll calculate the distance that a phone could spit out on that.

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Any smart speaker in the area just starts playing.

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It's the button.

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And then you sell that app for $1.99.

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Hardware version is just a bracelet that's always emitting that command forever.

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And wherever you go, you just cause chaos of Rick Rolls around you.

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It's like WWE wrestling walk-in music.

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You set what song you want it to be, and it's constantly emitting that tone.

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And every room you walk into, you get your theme song like you're stepping up to bat.

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I'd buy that.

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Dude, maybe that's the play too.

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What if you just gave people, like musicians gave like little Hallmark cards, okay?

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And they have to bring it to your Alexa, and you open it, and then it'll play the music.

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Something like that.

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Or, Scott, I think you did this.

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You throw like a cricket microphone.

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Oh, yeah, the little annoy-atrons that you hide somewhere.

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Okay, this is the holiday cards, all right?

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You know, when you open them, they play music.

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Instead, it plays a six gigahertz sound tone.

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And it just will randomly play some crazy song that you picked through the holiday card.

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Boom.

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Cotton-Eyed Joe forever.

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Cotton-Eyed Joe.

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You know, you get grandma, you know, grandma, open your card.

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Happy birthday.

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She opens the card.

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All the smart speakers in the area light up.

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Here's the thing, this is really easy to do.

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That's too, that's scary.

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One viral post.

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How are you going to market this?

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I think selling holiday cards would be dope.

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They just play, they play Alexa songs.

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And you don't even know how it knows.

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That is magic.

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Okay, little kids, you send them a card and they open it in front of the Alexa and all of a sudden it's playing a song.

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You, the prankster, bought the card to prank someone.

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And the prank is Alexa is playing a song really loud.

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But then you would have to explain, oh, no, this was a prank I did for you and this is how it works.

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And they're just going to be like, what the fuck is this?

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Why are we listening to Cotton-Eyed Joe?

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And you'd be like, get it?

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And they'll be like, no.

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Keep it the prankster.

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You're not in the room.

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You send this card to someone.

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This card is forever on repeat sending out this command.

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Like once, like your Annoy-O-Tron.

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Once every 10 minutes it says, play Cotton-Eyed Joe.

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And no matter what these people do, as long as that card remains in the house, which no one would suspect, you're going to get Cotton-Eyed Joe every 10 minutes.

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That is so cruel.

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Oh, wow.

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That is cruel.

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And they would never think it's the card.

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They would never.

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This is one of those things that will go viral, work for a week, and then they do fixes for it.

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But how is it going to go viral?

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It's going to be so hard to explain.

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You don't have to explain it.

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It's just this magic little coin cell thing.

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This little speaker will make you make your Google Home play Cotton-Eyed Joe.

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I stand by that.

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That's going to be so hard.

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It's just like a magic card.

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You say, this is a magical card.

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You don't have to know how it works.

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It's just you put it next to your Alexa and it starts to play a song.

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The prank is it plays music.

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I don't know, man.

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It doesn't have to play music.

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There's a lot of like, what, sound bites or something.

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You can play anything on the Alexa app, right?

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You're right.

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Turn off your lights.

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Oh, my God.

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It'll just be like a poltergeist card.

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You forever think your house is haunted if this is in there.

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It's just a fire alarm.

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Oh.

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Nest, test my alarm.

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Just constantly.

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All right.

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Well, this got really cruel really quick.

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Anyway, listening, you know, think of a better idea.

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Pivot to Halloween decoration.

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You bring this thing home and it's haunted.

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Ooh.

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Disguise it as a Bible.

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Is this illegal?

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Is the Annoy-a-tron legal?

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I don't know.

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I think it's fine.

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It's a speaker and a button cell battery.

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Are crickets illegal?

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So true, Russell.

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I'm always saying that.

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All right, Leo.

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What you got?

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All right.

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So one of my pastimes is editing a wonderful collaborative resource called

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Open Street Map.

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I don't know if you guys know what Open Street Map is.

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It's like Google Maps, Apple Maps, whatever.

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Go to OpenStreetMap.org.

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It's a web interface or an app of a map.

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But there's a big edit button in the top corner.

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You press edit and it's like Wikipedia.

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Everyone contributes to this thing, right?

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I have fun drawing sidewalks and writing polygons and naming parks and stuff

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when I want something therapeutic to do on there.

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But it's tedious and there's a bunch of missing buildings in our town that we

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live in.

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There's missing sidewalks and stuff.

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And it feels silly to very slowly draw them over time.

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I want a piece of hardware that's kind of like the Google Maps backpacks and

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Street View cars that goes around and detects nearby parks, nearby sidewalks.

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It looks at what's around it and does some object recognition and just gives

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me a database at the end of my hour walk or drive.

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I'll put it on the dash and says, we think that we saw this road over here,

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that sidewalk over there.

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There was a building over here.

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Would you like to add that to the map?

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What's it called?

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Is this corner correct?

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Yes, it is.

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Great.

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I saw a door over here.

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That wasn't marked on the map yet.

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Do you want to add it?

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OK.

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I mean, the hardware is just like a 360 camera on a tripod, right?

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Exactly.

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And you're just walking around recording something, right?

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And a computer.

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Yeah.

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Wear it as a backpack, put it on the front of your bike or something.

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And put it on your car roof?

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Sure.

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Or on the hood or something.

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That's what Google and Apple and Amazon all do.

473
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I don't know if you've seen Amazon Vans.

474
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,400
They all have these wacky cameras on the top.

475
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,400
They're making mapping data better.

476
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:54,400
I wish that we could commoditize that and give it to the people instead of letting these

477
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,400
companies keep it to themselves.

478
00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:00,400
But this is an open source way that lets the public do it for themselves.

479
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:01,400
Sure.

480
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:07,400
It reminds me a little bit of your crypto hotspot thing, the LoRa radio.

481
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:08,400
Oh, Helium.

482
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:09,400
Helium.

483
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,400
It's like the Helium network where you have a bunch of different little receiver guys

484
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:16,400
and they're all looking at what's around them and contributing to a public good.

485
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,400
I have a great spin off of where this started.

486
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,400
That is what I thought you were saying initially.

487
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,400
What if it was an accessibility twist?

488
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:30,400
So making sure people could access a park or could properly get down the street not

489
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:34,400
knowing if there was messed up sidewalk, steps, whatever.

490
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,400
Spin off, spin off.

491
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:41,400
I went through a rollerblading phase during COVID and I was like, I would love to rollerblade

492
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:42,400
outside.

493
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:47,400
And the only real option was a basketball court because our sidewalks were so bumpy.

494
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:53,400
So I wonder if it could recognize smooth enough paths to identify where you can roller skate

495
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,400
without killing yourself.

496
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:59,400
Open street map has tags for what kind of surface is this?

497
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:00,400
Is there an incline?

498
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:01,400
10 degree, 20 degree, all that stuff.

499
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:05,400
There's a natural home for the data, but a lot of it's missing right now.

500
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:09,400
So people like you could go in there and say, yes, this is a ramp and that is stairs and

501
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,400
this is that.

502
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:15,400
The reason that I've been playing with open street map recently is at the place that I

503
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:19,400
work, we are supporting an incoming person who is fully blind.

504
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:25,400
We edited open street map data, pulled the data and turned it into a 3D printable map

505
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:29,400
of our campus so that this person would know where all the buildings were.

506
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,400
And it was exactly that accessibility thing.

507
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,400
We've marked all the entrances, made sure the sidewalks were all right, and then made

508
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,400
an STL and I have my like printed map.

509
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:41,400
And now the student could say, oh, Lubbers Hall is over near whatever hall.

510
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:42,400
OK, got it.

511
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,400
Yeah, that is so cool.

512
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:50,400
Yeah, it's a really fun project for accessibility, but I had to go through and edit all the sidewalks

513
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,400
and missing entrances and stuff manually.

514
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:52,400
Right.

515
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:53,400
And it's nice.

516
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:54,400
It's therapeutic.

517
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:58,400
It's something that I kind of get sucked into, but it's tedious and seems like it should

518
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,400
be automatable or at least partly automatable, you know.

519
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,400
And then I see the Amazon truck collecting data on top.

520
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:07,400
Why is that?

521
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:08,400
I'll do it.

522
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,400
So I want one of those, please.

523
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:10,400
Yes.

524
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:10,400
Thank you.

525
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:15,400
Let's go back to this roller skating thing, though, because I think people need to know

526
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:19,400
where to roller skate, but also like long people that long I don't logboard, but people

527
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:20,400
that longboard.

528
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:24,400
Yeah, because it's not like whether or not it's a sidewalk like the surface has got

529
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:25,400
to be just right.

530
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:29,400
And it's like maybe we encourage people because like always Google Maps is always out of date.

531
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:29,400
Right.

532
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,400
They only let their trucks go through every once in a while.

533
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:33,400
So now you incentivize people.

534
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,400
You throw this on Pokemon goers.

535
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:37,400
All right.

536
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:43,400
And now they're walking around Pokemon going and making some pokey coin, you know, with

537
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:44,400
the.

538
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,400
It's funny you say that Pokemon go pulls its map from OpenStreetMap.

539
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:49,400
Well, there we go.

540
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,400
And you add a building and OpenStreetMap shows up in the game.

541
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:52,400
Yeah.

542
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,400
See, and now you just need the data to go back.

543
00:29:55,400 --> 00:30:01,400
They're pulling from OpenStreetMap, but Pokemoners need to be able to mark whatever you need

544
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:02,400
to gamify it better.

545
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:06,400
Yeah, you get you sell Pokemon hats with 360 cameras on it.

546
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:12,400
And now you got people just walking around collecting, you know, and then right.

547
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,400
So you have OpenStreetMap or whatever.

548
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:21,400
Pokey go selling the roller blade map, selling the longboard map, selling like the latest

549
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,400
and greatest street views.

550
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:24,400
I mean, why not?

551
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,400
Like, why is it so hard?

552
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:27,400
Let's just do that.

553
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,400
Who's going to pay for roller blade maps, though?

554
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,400
I think that's.

555
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:33,400
I would.

556
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,400
I was deep in it.

557
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:43,400
Does OpenStreetMap, whatever it's called, do they have an idea of where things may be

558
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:48,400
inaccurate or would it be more of I'm sending a request to fix something that is inaccurate?

559
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:54,400
Because I was thinking if it was the former, it could be a ping of like wherever geolocation

560
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:55,400
you're close to this.

561
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:56,400
Hey, is this accurate?

562
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,400
Kind of like when you leave somewhere, Google's like, you're popular.

563
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,400
How was blah, blah, blah, leave a review.

564
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,400
I could see it working well that way versus having to have hardware and such.

565
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:06,400
That's how you make money.

566
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:07,400
Totally.

567
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:14,400
You could maybe people could ask for an updated map ahead of time and pay, hey, somebody go

568
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:20,400
out there for five bucks, walk around the 360 camera, please, for whatever reason, I

569
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:25,400
have a need for it, whether it's Pokemon Go, whether it's accessibility, whether it's somebody

570
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:26,400
else.

571
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,400
Bounties, baby bets.

572
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,400
OK, that's a throwback.

573
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:31,400
That's great.

574
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:32,400
OK.

575
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:37,400
Did you ever get like, did you ever get like pinged whenever you arrived at your destination

576
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:41,400
from Google back in the day to take a picture of this restaurant?

577
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:42,400
No.

578
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:47,400
Like I would get, yeah, all the time whenever I arrived at my destination, they'd be like,

579
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:51,400
can you take answer some questions and take a picture of the outside of this place?

580
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,400
And I'm like, OK, sure.

581
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,400
I mean, that's I don't know whatever happened to that.

582
00:31:56,400 --> 00:32:00,400
But that I maybe you guys hadn't had that happen to you.

583
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,400
Maybe Google's just in love with me.

584
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,400
Yeah, that's exactly I was saying.

585
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:08,400
Like if they need clarification, they could just request it.

586
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,400
Whoever was actually in that area.

587
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:15,400
Leo, I wonder if you could go the nonprofit route and make it like, hey, we're going to

588
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:21,400
sell hardware or this idea to municipalities to be like, we are going to get every sidewalk,

589
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:26,400
every street, everything in your town on the map and searchable so you can have better

590
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:30,400
businesses or better business to your local businesses.

591
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:35,400
And then you go reach out to the community and be like, look, we need prizes to incentivize

592
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:36,400
people to do this.

593
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:40,400
Would you donate a free meal, a golf lesson?

594
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:41,400
I don't know, whatever.

595
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:46,400
Free massage downtown or something in order to incentivize people as a contest to who

596
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,400
can get the most points in this map collecting.

597
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,400
Yeah, absolutely.

598
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:52,400
Crowdsourcing.

599
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:53,400
That's how it is now.

600
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,400
It's just there's no incentive is incentivization or anything.

601
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:57,400
Yeah.

602
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,400
Five oh one, two, three.

603
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,400
Dude, that's like a big deal.

604
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:02,400
People take this very seriously.

605
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,400
There's a conference every year.

606
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:10,400
There's like a whole wiki on the rules for how to tag something as grass versus a park

607
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:14,400
versus a grassland versus a whatever, you know, like it's very intense.

608
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:15,400
That's awesome.

609
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,400
That is really cool.

610
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:18,400
So is it free for everybody?

611
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,400
Like, yeah, it's just, yeah.

612
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,400
Openstreetmap.org.

613
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,400
I encourage everyone on the podcast to make one edit.

614
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:26,400
It's so cool.

615
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:27,400
Everybody listening.

616
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:28,400
Sponsor us.

617
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:29,400
That's right.

618
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:33,400
Not just for accessibility stuff, but it's just a nice resource that a bunch of like

619
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,400
Tesla's for a while pulled from it.

620
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:39,400
Like I said, Pokemon go a bunch of projects just use this as a base layer of data because

621
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,400
it's got most things that you'd need.

622
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:42,400
Right.

623
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,400
The bummer is when people take the data and they add their own secret sauce to it and

624
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:50,400
they don't like contribute back up to the main project, you know, but it's out there.

625
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:55,400
I don't know if real time object recognition has gotten to the point where you can just

626
00:33:55,400 --> 00:34:00,400
like point a camera at a street and it'll tell you where it is and how long it is and

627
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:01,400
what it's made of and stuff.

628
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,400
But that's my dream.

629
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:04,400
Maybe another five years.

630
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,400
We'll get the data now and they can figure it out later.

631
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:07,400
All right.

632
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:08,400
It's like freezing yourself.

633
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,400
We'll figure it out.

634
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,400
Probably in the future someday.

635
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:19,400
This is a physical product.

636
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:24,400
And if anyone is familiar with happy lamps, happy lights.

637
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:25,400
Yes.

638
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:26,400
Totally.

639
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:27,400
Has anyone had one?

640
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:28,400
Yes.

641
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:29,400
Okay, cool.

642
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:30,400
Russell.

643
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:31,400
I didn't know this.

644
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:37,400
I got one because I was sad in the wintertime and I was like trying to embed this as a part

645
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:43,400
of my routine and get less sad and used it briefly on and on, but was super turned off

646
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:49,400
by it because for there to be benefits, it's recommended to sit six inches away from this

647
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:56,400
bright, bright light as well as using it for like 15 to 20 minutes a day, which is hard,

648
00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:01,400
especially if you're already sad or depressed or just going just, you know, or just generally

649
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:05,400
speaking, it's hard to do anything for 20 minutes.

650
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:11,400
So my thought is this actually does work when you use it well, which I have done before,

651
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,400
like gotten to a good habit of using it.

652
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:19,400
But I think there could be a much easier way to like use it more passively and to not feel

653
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,400
like you're just sitting in front of a really bright light for no reason.

654
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:28,400
So I think that could be as simple as like a vanity mirror or light to do your makeup

655
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:32,400
because that's something you're already taking a lot of time to do hair, makeup, brush your

656
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,400
teeth, whatever in the morning.

657
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:39,400
Not even if you're using it for 20 minutes straight, but if that's your literal vanity

658
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:43,400
bathroom light around your mirror, what have you, boom, you're doing it multiple times

659
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:44,400
a day.

660
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:45,400
It's natural.

661
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:53,400
Or workplace addition, ring lights or any sort of supportive lights around Zoom calls,

662
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:54,400
stuff like that.

663
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:55,400
Turn on the happy lights.

664
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:56,400
Yeah.

665
00:35:56,400 --> 00:36:01,400
You got to be sitting there with lights or camera, just embedding that as a part of your

666
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:02,400
daily workflow.

667
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:03,400
Love it.

668
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:04,400
Genius.

669
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:10,400
So I'd love to think of other physical ways that could be embedded into things I've already

670
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:11,400
sitting out for.

671
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:17,400
I have hue lights in my office that change color temperature from like bluish in the

672
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:18,400
morning to orangish in the evening.

673
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:22,400
It seems like the kind of thing that you could just build into a regular light bulb and let

674
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,400
it kind of be optional.

675
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:30,400
You know, like you press a switch on your smart home, whatever, or you turn the light

676
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:34,400
on and off twice and it switches from happy light mode to normal mode.

677
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:38,400
You could have every bulb in your house be a happy light for an hour, right?

678
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:39,400
Why not?

679
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,400
Is there a reason that shouldn't be the case?

680
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:42,400
Yeah.

681
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:43,400
Is there prolonged exposure problems?

682
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:44,400
Yeah.

683
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:51,400
I don't know if happy lights actually are just blue versus red and like are centric to like

684
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,400
being able to sleep well and having the rhythms.

685
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,400
I think that it's a separate thing, so I'd have to research that.

686
00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:01,400
But in general, yeah, that would be dope to just offer it in the form of a light bulb

687
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,400
into like your workspace.

688
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,400
I used, not like a happy, I had an alarm clock, right?

689
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:07,400
Because I couldn't.

690
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:13,400
It was the physical, like I can wake up in the summer really well at 6am, 7am because

691
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,400
there's sun coming through the window, right?

692
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,400
And I think in the wintertime it's like killer.

693
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:27,400
So I bought this dumb little box thing and it would slowly creep up to a color and then

694
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,400
wake you up in a more natural way.

695
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:31,400
I have that too.

696
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:32,400
Right?

697
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:33,400
Right.

698
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,400
So I'm guessing that's, that was, but it didn't really hit the spot.

699
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:37,400
I think that's what you're saying, right?

700
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,400
And so then I bought a happy light.

701
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,400
You did the wake up light to a happy light.

702
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:42,400
That's right.

703
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:43,400
I bought a happy light.

704
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:44,400
So it's like a little box.

705
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:50,400
It's an LED and I would literally put it on top of my face and lay down on my couch for

706
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:51,400
10 minutes.

707
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:57,400
Still, it's like not the same as when eight or nine o'clock in the wintertime rolls around

708
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:01,400
and I can look at the dim gray clouds for five minutes.

709
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,400
I'm like, I feel something, right?

710
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:09,400
I think it's a circadian rhythm thing or like there is something literally in your brain

711
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:10,400
that changes based.

712
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:16,400
I remember reading this like based on UV light, like melatonin, something changes.

713
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,400
I think that's why.

714
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:23,400
And so, man, I totally think this needs to happen.

715
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:28,400
So I feel like hyping up the idea a bit because it's like, I need this.

716
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,400
I take vitamin D. I take whatever.

717
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:32,400
I need it too.

718
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,400
I take whatever I can to like, I leave.

719
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:42,400
I now I leave and I left in February this year to escape the gloom.

720
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,400
So, the Midwest winter.

721
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:46,400
Yeah.

722
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,400
Happy lights don't literally have UV though, do they?

723
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,400
That's not like a tanning bed.

724
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:52,400
No.

725
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:53,400
I just looked it up.

726
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:54,400
They do not have UV.

727
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,400
So then what makes it different than like a blue light?

728
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,400
I know what you're talking about.

729
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,400
I just don't know how they work.

730
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:01,400
Why is there no UV?

731
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:05,400
Isn't that the key ingredient in like sunlight?

732
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,400
The mixture?

733
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,400
I think it would be bad to sit six inches away from that though.

734
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:17,400
So whatever they're replicating it with, it seems like that could just be like an LED

735
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:21,400
strip or something that you could just put around your monitor or whatever.

736
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:22,400
Yeah.

737
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,400
Like what is the actual light bulb?

738
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,400
I've never taken the time to research what that is.

739
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:27,400
Okay.

740
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:28,400
I just looked it up.

741
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,400
UV rays typically emits 10,000 lux.

742
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:32,400
That's a lot.

743
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:36,400
Which is, yeah, 10 times brighter than a normal LED light.

744
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:43,400
Different spectrum of color temperature, specifically designed to filter out UV rays.

745
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:44,400
Good.

746
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:45,400
Okay.

747
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:49,400
So it's just really, really bright and a little bit different blue.

748
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,400
It's just a bright special color light.

749
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:57,400
So if that's the case, do you need this in your face?

750
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,400
That's what the instruction said.

751
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:00,400
Where are you putting this light?

752
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:06,400
Yeah, but would it still work if I just made a sweater or an undershirt or something with

753
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:13,400
all LEDs pointed right at my skin that turned on for like 20 minutes a day?

754
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,400
That was quite a departure, but I'm here for it.

755
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:17,400
I love it.

756
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:23,400
And it's a reversible jacket so that everyone around you can be happy too.

757
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:24,400
It's like inverse.

758
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:25,400
A happy blanket.

759
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:26,400
Yeah.

760
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,400
Then it wakes you up in the morning too.

761
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:29,400
A happy blanket.

762
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:30,400
Hell yeah.

763
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,400
Heaven forbid you're under the blankets when it flips on.

764
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,400
The Snuggie for joy.

765
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,400
A joy Snuggie.

766
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:42,400
You wake up and there's Christmas lights all around you.

767
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:46,400
You're just kind of glowing underneath.

768
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:47,400
Well, okay.

769
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:52,400
Here's another light technology I don't know a lot about, but I've heard of.

770
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:58,400
It's like this red light therapy that supposedly is like anti-aging and good for your skin

771
00:40:58,400 --> 00:40:59,400
and shit.

772
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,400
And like a Kardashian type audience is very invested in this new technology, but it's

773
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:07,400
like a wearable Iron Man looking mask.

774
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:08,400
Oh.

775
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:09,400
It's always about the face.

776
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:10,400
Perhaps.

777
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,400
I was going to say, we could just change the frequency of the Snuggie.

778
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,400
I haven't shown two different types of LEDs.

779
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,400
You get both for the price of one.

780
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,400
So if I choose blue light, it makes me happy, but red light makes me beautiful and I have

781
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:21,400
to pick.

782
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:22,400
That's what you're telling me.

783
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:23,400
Put both lights in.

784
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:24,400
Can't be both.

785
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:25,400
What about both?

786
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:26,400
Can't be both.

787
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,400
Both at the same time.

788
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,400
So, is there a difference?

789
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:31,400
Okay.

790
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:35,400
Is there a difference between this happy light and did you guys ever see this video of like

791
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:42,400
children standing around a light in like Norway or in Greenland where every day at school

792
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:49,400
they put on swimsuits with like UV goggles and stand around a purple light because there's

793
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,400
no sun for like.

794
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:52,400
Because they don't get sun.

795
00:41:52,400 --> 00:42:00,400
It's like literally like a gym activity where they stand around a light, a UV light.

796
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,400
That's so sad.

797
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:03,400
That's apocalyptic.

798
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:04,400
I mean.

799
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,400
All right, kids, it's time to stare at the orb.

800
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:07,400
They love it.

801
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:08,400
I could use that though.

802
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,400
Like, let's take that and bring it to America.

803
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:12,400
Okay.

804
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:13,400
You stand.

805
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,400
Bring it to the Midwest.

806
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:16,400
The Midwest.

807
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:17,400
Yeah.

808
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:18,400
Please.

809
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,400
What do they have that we, I mean, let's bring it home.

810
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,400
I don't know anything about this light, but I think that's what we got to do.

811
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:25,400
Okay.

812
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:29,400
So, you know how you want to put it in your everyday life, right?

813
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,400
Incorporate this special UV light, the commute.

814
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:33,400
Boom.

815
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:38,400
Replace every car light with natural sun.

816
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:39,400
I was on board.

817
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,400
Only replace the high vehicle.

818
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,400
Every car on the road had the sun.

819
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:48,400
Just you're driving, you're getting the UV lights.

820
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,400
You know how people love getting headlights in their face.

821
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,400
Are you saying an interior car light?

822
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,400
Because that could almost make sense to me.

823
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,400
If you're talking about headlights, I'm a little lost.

824
00:42:58,400 --> 00:42:59,400
Okay.

825
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:00,400
Interior dome lights.

826
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:01,400
Sorry.

827
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:02,400
What did I say?

828
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:03,400
Headliners?

829
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:04,400
What are those things that.

830
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:05,400
You just said lights.

831
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:06,400
Okay.

832
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:07,400
Yes.

833
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:08,400
Interior lights.

834
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:09,400
Okay.

835
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:10,400
It's the red.

836
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:11,400
Break lights.

837
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,400
No, that's for beauty.

838
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:18,400
Let's tell Musk, throw it on your taillights.

839
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:19,400
Changes the world.

840
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:20,400
He makes everybody happier.

841
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:24,400
I like the idea that it's your reverse lights, the white ones.

842
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:28,400
You throw it in reverse and the power of the sun just blasting out the back of your car.

843
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:32,400
No, I think the commute is where I need the most joy.

844
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:33,400
So, I need.

845
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,400
I mean, not that I have one.

846
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:36,400
But.

847
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:41,400
Your idea was having it around the mirror, your beauty station.

848
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:45,400
I mean, how is that that different than around your windshield, right?

849
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,400
You could have it all around there pointed at you.

850
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,400
It doesn't have to be 10,000 bucks.

851
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,400
Especially if we could make these like the LED strips that are so popular.

852
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:53,400
Yeah.

853
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,400
I was initially thinking like just a vanity light.

854
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,400
But yeah, the more applications, the better.

855
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:58,400
And if it's just a piece of tape.

856
00:43:58,400 --> 00:43:59,400
It's a good idea.

857
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:00,400
Just an LED strip.

858
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,400
I'll put it around my monitor right here.

859
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,400
And you look good in your Zoom calls.

860
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:05,400
Let them decide.

861
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:12,400
If you just, okay, if you just brand it in the right like wellness space, white people will buy that.

862
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:13,400
Boom.

863
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,400
Like right now it's cold plunging.

864
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,400
It's going to be a UV pole soon.

865
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:18,400
Sauna.

866
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:19,400
A UV pole.

867
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,400
You just got to get Huberman on this.

868
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,400
Then we're good.

869
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,400
Little Joe Rogue, you know.

870
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:26,400
Done.

871
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,400
Maybe.

872
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:29,400
Wim Hof.

873
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:30,400
Oh yeah.

874
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,400
We're coming for you, Joe.

875
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,400
Podcast empire.

876
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:37,400
Any day now.

877
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,400
I'm going on record to say I'm not.

878
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,400
Joe's coming on this podcast.

879
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,400
He's got some ideas, I'm sure.

880
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:45,400
Oh, I'm sure he does.

881
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,400
That's you, Joe.

882
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:48,400
Feel free to write us, Joe.

883
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,400
We know you're a listener.

884
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:51,400
We know you're a listener.

885
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:52,400
Thank you, Joe, for listening.

886
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,400
And thank you everyone else for listening as well.

887
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,400
We hope you enjoyed yourself.

888
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,400
Well, thank you, Caroline, for joining us tonight.

889
00:44:58,400 --> 00:44:59,400
Anytime.

890
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,400
I've got lots more.

891
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,400
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892
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,400
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893
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,400
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894
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:11,400
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895
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,400
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899
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,400
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