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I'm Scott. I'm Russell. And I'm Leo. This is Spitball. Welcome to Spitball, where three

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project persons and a guest empty our heads of startup and tech product ideas that we

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have stuck up in there so you can all have them for free. Anything that we say is yours

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to keep. And this week, Russell, you brought our guest, didn't you, brother?

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- Oh yes I did.

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I have the famous Marc Boersma here,

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who is currently the director of product

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for a company called Morey.

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- Morey, yep.

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-Morey, and there's a lot of cool stuff happening there,

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but we know him famously from our Ring Cam days.

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He is famously proposed at the Piston Stadium

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and shamelessly plugged Ring Cam on a big screen there.

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So yeah, it was quite incredible.

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I think hundreds of thousands of people,

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no, just thousands of people saw an amazing proposal

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and a bunch of advertisements to every bride and groom

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walking through that arena.

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- My wife does not know about that, so don't tell her.

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- Oh, no?

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- She doesn't know, so.

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- Well, if Marc's wife's listening,

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she was already engaged, so.

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It makes it worse.

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It makes it way better, right?

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Yeah, good cover up.

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Nailed it.

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Marc, welcome to Spitball.

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Thank you.

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Great to be here.

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Another legendary introduction, Russell.

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So when we have guests on who start off while we're warming up and talking in the pre-show

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and they're like, "I have a hundred ideas.

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What should I do with all these?

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How do I pick just one?"

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We sometimes will play a round of intramurals where we pitch some of our reject half ideas

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just to clear the decks a little bit and something that we don't want to be a full pitch but

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that we think has a little bit of legs.

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So we're going to do a round of intramurals

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to get us warmed up today.

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How are we feeling?

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Who wants to go first?

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Who's itching?

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Do we all have an app idea?

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I think we might all have an app idea tonight.

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Is that right?

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I could do an app idea.

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I can turn mine into an app idea.

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Let's do it all.

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Oops, all apps intramurals.

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Oops, all apps.

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All right, I got you.

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Let's go.

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Hit us.

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What do you got?

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This is an app.

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I recently moved.

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I have recently been putting lots of large things

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into a old house with many corners and small staircases

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realizing this will not fit from here to here.

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I want an app where I could just take my phone,

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like do a quick look around the room,

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get a CAD model of whatever the thing is

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that I'm trying to move,

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that freaking mattress or dishwasher or something,

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and just have it like,

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"Hey, you can fit that around this corner

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"only if you do it this way.

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"If you hold the couch at this angle,

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"you can get it through."

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And it does all of that for you.

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- You end up with like IKEA instructions

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with like put on and slide down two feet,

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Rotate 90 degrees.

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That's awesome.

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- That's the entire app.

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And I would kill for that this past weekend.

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- So iPhones have LiDAR scanners and stuff

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for many years now,

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and there's apps to do the 3D rendering.

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There's a whole API suite for this.

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This is very doable.

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I love this.

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- It doesn't exist.

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I was literally looking for this

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when trying to get a stupid washing machine through, but.

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- Amazon even has the like,

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put this object in your room to see how it would fit.

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- Yeah, the augmented reality part.

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- You're almost there.

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You just need to show me how to get it to this spot, Amazon.

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You're going to leave it on my back porch.

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The CAD models.

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Hey, this is a mattress.

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It's a little bit flexy.

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We could move it around this way.

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Well, what if you-- and then you could--

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what if you entered in your physique numbers in terms

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of how much you can lift?

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And then it tells you, no, you need a partner for this.

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You're going to throw out your back.

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Here's-- in order to get it to this position, you got to--

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This box if you grew up on a farm. Yeah, you have to here's the three-week weightlifting program you have to go through first

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It's a fitness map

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It measures the awkwardness of the item right like just like how awkward it is to hold

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You know, there's no handholds on this perfectly smooth cabinet. You want to get down there? Yeah

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Well, if we want to if we want to scale it commercial, we'll just sell it to the moving companies

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You can upload pictures of everything you have to move it gives the two guys in a truck

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instructions for

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Everything to move how to get it in there most efficiently

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Because it's all about efficiency with their revenue and their profit like more efficient more profitable

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So you give them step-by-step tells them they can bill you more. I

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Like it. Whoa, two houses one day with your app Scott. Yeah, there you go

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There's two men two houses one truck one day

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Two men and app in a truck.

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That is actually, Marc, I did not think you could make money with this app until you said

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something like that.

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Of course, Marc is away for that.

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So when we moved out of our condo, my wife and I, the closest elevator was like, I don't

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know, 50 years old.

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And it was crazy tiny.

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And so these movers that we hired to do it, they did not account for how many trips down

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that little tiny elevator they would need to take because they assumed it was a big

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elevator for a large condo building.

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And so it was a fixed rate quote and I guarantee they lost money because they had no idea.

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But if they had your app, they'd be like, "Hey, it's this many elevator loads.

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This is the path to get all the way downstairs to the moving truck."

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to save them a lot of money on the job.

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- Man, you run a 360 camera through your house ahead of time,

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like that's all it takes, right?

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If you really want to commercialize this,

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you send them a 360 camera ahead of time

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and it just like, or I guess you could just do this

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with your iPhones, right?

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They have like full rooms, oh man.

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- That's actually dope.

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- All right, someone give me a moment to intermural,

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I forgot.

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- Yeah, you're taking too long.

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Keep it moving.

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I have a, I'll piggyback off that because believe it or not, my app is kind of a moving

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So as we all know, the baby boomers of the generation are retiring and they are old enough

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now to be moved into nursing homes.

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So there is a lot of very old people moving into nursing homes and they have to sell all

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their stuff, right?

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I was talking to my neighbor a few months ago going through this whole thing.

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parents lived in the house, had to go into a nursing home, do an estate sale.

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So they have to pay hundreds of dollars for this company to come and evaluate everything

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in their house.

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And then they have to pay for them to move, warehouse all this stuff.

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And then this company takes it upon themselves to sell as much as they can from the house.

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And then they charge like a 35% commission fee on everything they sell.

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And it's just because the kids who are dealing with all this, because grandparents are not

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able to anymore, don't want to spend all the time to do it.

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So with the beautiful rise of AI, imagine being able to walk through your parents' house,

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who are now in a nursing home, be able to photograph everything, and through image recognition,

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assign a price tag to everything, automatically list it on an estate sale website, and you

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take care of all of that yourself just via camera and app automatically posting it assigning

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a price value which honestly if they make any money off of it it's great because they

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just don't want to deal with the hassle. AI virtual estate sale.

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Beautiful. It could even list it on local Facebook marketplaces and eBay and all that

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stuff too. Absolutely. It doesn't even have to be physical anymore.

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List it at a high price and just keep knocking it down every week if no one buys it until

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someone eventually grabs it.

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There really isn't much that the estate sale companies are bringing to the table

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that can't be commodified at this point.

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Is there appraisal and organization of an event and price tagging and

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bargain, all that stuff is like so easy to automate.

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I don't know much about how estate sales work.

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I guess I didn't, there's a whole company that will just come in and

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just sell everything you own.

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Pretty much.

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Imagine a garage sale, but the whole house you walk through.

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A lot of people do it themselves.

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But like most people don't have time, you know, like think

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of the kids are the ones that are doing it.

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And the kids are now, you know, 40, 50 years old.

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They have kids, they have jobs, they have all that stuff.

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And this is a huge thing on their plate.

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So they hire a company to just take care of it all.

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Why can't an app with AI image recognition do it for them?

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I would like to walk around my house with a thing and

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just have it identify what stuff do you have that's worth a lot?

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Ooh, like, do I really need this?

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I don't know.

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That's good.

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That's good.

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Your app sounds great just to do, right?

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Yeah, it's Russell's looking around over his shoulder.

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Hold on, do I really need this model?

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You actually got like a thousand dollars of PLA behind you.

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Am I emotionally attached to this?

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Yeah.

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Do I need that?

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Am I ever gonna learn guitar?

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Yeah, exactly, right?

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That's worth 300, $400.

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I'm imagining Google Lens,

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but it's just labeling price tags on stuff

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pulled in from like recent auctions or whatever.

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Even that would be sweet.

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Dude, man, you sell that to Facebook,

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they would just love that shit.

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Just, oh, people are literally gonna video their whole home

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and tell you every piece of information that's in there.

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Like, could sell and put ads for that all day, you know?

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This guy's got a guitar.

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- There's gonna be a black market for thieves

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for this app, unfortunately.

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- See, that's where I was actually gonna go, Marc,

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with this, like, what if you had an open door lockbox

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with cameras throughout the house

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and it turns into a vending machine style

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where you buy the item online and they unlock the door

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with a bunch of cameras you can take and grab and go.

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- Well, have you guys done that at airports?

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- That's right. - Yeah?

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- Airports are just like trust honor system kiosks

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with cameras, right?

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what happens.

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- There's an airport, actually a really tiny one

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outside of Columbia, Missouri.

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And you go in, you just scan your credit card,

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and you walk in.

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There's absolutely no employees.

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You grab whatever you want, and you walk out.

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And then you get an email with what you grabbed

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and the price, and it just automatically charges you.

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I've seen those guys.

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Yes, Denver has a couple of those, too.

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Those are powered by Amazon technology.

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I went into the original Amazon prototype stores for those,

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the Amazon Go thing.

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They're cool.

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Yeah, it's awesome.

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So there's a bunch of cameras all in the ceiling,

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watching like, oh, he picked this up, put this down,

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And they build it as like they are incredible AI whatever it's amazing that we've developed technology

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We're robust know and it came to light that it's just a bunch of underpaid people in India watching cameras a guy in the back

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Picked up the salad he put down the salad he picked up the salad

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Yeah, I don't know if that's still the case, but if Amazon can do it

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We can we can do it with the state to hire

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So the company comes in with a briefcase filled with cameras

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They stick it up to the ceiling and then strangers walk around the house

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Scan their credit card and just pick up that clock and that priceless China and they walk out

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You can haggle on the app

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I'll give you 50 for everything. All right, what you got? I don't know if I have if this idea has any legs

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We'll see if there's something here. So IMDB has an awesome and pretty famous database of trivia per movie

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There's dozens of like, "Did you know that while filming this scene this interesting thing happened?"

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Or, "They actually had to break up this into four different blah blah blah."

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Right? It's fascinating and I feel like it isn't being used for anything interesting or fun.

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So I would like to make some sort of either Duolingo style, like,

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learn some interesting facts about the things that you already have in your recently watched list or something,

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Or maybe even it's like a head-to-head trivia game that you're playing with people.

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Somehow gamifying this corpus of data into something that brings it to light in a better way than having to go and find it myself.

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I don't know what kind of... what the structure is here, which is why it's an intramural.

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I love those movie facts too. Like, they always bring me joy.

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So that's but you have to remember to go in like I don't know not only be intentional about that movie that you're interested in

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But I don't just remembering to do it at all

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Yeah, honestly, like my gut reaction is if I'm watching a movie and you know

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I think it's like Amazon Prime does it when I pause it shows me?

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Hey, he's all the characters on the screen like I could just pause at a random point

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It'll tell me either a tidbit about the movie or about that scene or something. Did you know that Amazon owns IMDb?

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Yeah

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We're so freaking close the feature you're called you're talking about is called Amazon x-ray. They should just put the facts in there. Yes

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That's what I would be most interested in those facts when I'm actively watching it

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You pause like 10 minutes into the movie, you know when Russell Crowe died at the end of this then he blah blah blah

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spoiler

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That's a real concern yeah

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This could be just like an add-on to subtitles or like an app and like, you know, if you get some title thing, yes

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- Put it during the movie. - What's the trivia going?

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- Yeah. - It listens to the audio on the movie

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and then like a thing pops up.

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Maybe you could do this on your phone, right?

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It just listens to the audio or time syncs up

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and now you just have that going at the same time.

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- Zoomers are reading and watching TikTok and stuff

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while having their movie on anyway.

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So put it on the screen that they're actually looking at.

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I love it.

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- I love that, yeah.

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'Cause if I'm watching, let's say I'm watching a movie

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for like the third time 'cause I'm with a group

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and they've never seen it.

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I would love to pull out my phone and learn all these facts,

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but they probably don't want to be distracted by all these facts

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while they're watching a movie for the first time.

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And so I can pull it out and still enjoy by learning a bunch more stuff

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that I didn't know.

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Are you going to be able to hold your tongue though?

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Hey guys, did you know Vigo actually broke his toe?

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Yeah.

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We'll call the app Pompous Critic.

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You guys wouldn't believe this.

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Hey, hey, hey, guess what?

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Guess what?

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Shut up.

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All right, Russell, what do you got?

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- That's awesome.

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Okay, mine is extremely like illegal and borderline

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not helpful to society, but we'll see how this goes, okay?

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This is why it's an intramural, all right?

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So I knew a guy, I know some folks that are trying to get,

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stay in the United States with their H-1B

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and try to get an H-1B visa.

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Now it turns out all you need to qualify for that

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is a good enough job title to get through the bureaucracy

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of the government.

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So why not just create an app slash company, kind of like--

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you guys remember that one movie about the college that

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wasn't real and you got degrees?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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That's what I'm trying to do with a company.

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What kind of business would exist

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that would just hand out pompous titles to interns?

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Ringcam.com.

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So I think this would be funded by parents of people whose kids go to school and want

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them to stay in the United States to get opportunities.

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So you create fake kind of jobs that are paid for by the rich parents of those kids and

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you take a commission and all you're doing is making fake job titles until they find

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their real job.

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So now they're like an engineer, a mechanical engineer

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for Box Tech Guru.

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LLC.

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OK, that's the company.

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See, completely white label, and that's it.

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I feel like you're just describing

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a new level of Ivy League college admissions.

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Yeah.

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[LAUGHTER]

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This business, this app could have just

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like a portfolio of shell companies

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that it's assigning people to and stuff.

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Constantly shifting.

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Although, Ring Cam-- or Ring Cam, oh my god.

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LinkedIn recruiters are going to hate you.

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Yeah.

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Oh, yeah.

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Oh, we're looking for a VP of engineering over here.

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This guy looks great.

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He was-- his parents paid for the VP of engineering position

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in my company, so--

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Vice president and a freshman in college.

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Amazing.

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Dude, yes.

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Internships, you know, it's basically

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fraud paid for by my app.

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So simply put, you know, it makes me think,

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you know, when Twitter shut down, right?

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How many people could totally say they worked at Twitter

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and got laid off by-- - You couldn't verify it.

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- That's right, who's gonna verify that?

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- No one's gonna call Twitter, yeah.

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- For three years, actually, guys.

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- Did you really, wow. - I was their

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head of product, yeah, I know.

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- Head of product. (laughs)

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- I saw that with a lot of Toys R Us managers, too.

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- Yeah. - There we go, right?

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That's it. - That's fantastic, Russell.

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I love that.

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Yep.

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A close cousin to tax fraud as a service,

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pitched many, many episodes ago.

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I love that.

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That one was legal.

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Visas as a service is pretty bad.

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Visify.

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Do it.

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You got first this week, Scott.

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All right.

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I do not have children.

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All three of you have children.

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This is an idea for people with children.

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I want to know if this is a good idea or a bad idea.

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I spent last Thanksgiving with nieces and nephews.

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They are at ages where indoor voices are a thing that has to be reminded to them quite a bit

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It got to a point where I'm wondering could we just put like a decibel meter on the wall or just like a bar

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You just say hey if this bar crosses this threshold three you get three strikes and if it hits it too many times then

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Something happens. You lost your gold star for the day. Yeah, I don't I don't know something along those lines

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That is as far as I got with that idea

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Would this work? Because it's not a shot collar.

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It's not a shot collar.

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Yeah, well, the hard, you could make this in an afternoon and then make a website and just start selling these out if you get a little TikTok movement going.

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Would this sell? Would it work?

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You know, Scott, that is, I think that's a phenomenal idea because we do something very similar with our oldest, Lena, getting out of bed.

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She's got a nightlight that we can control from our phones, and she knows that if the light is not green,

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she is not allowed out of her room. It turns green when it's her wake-up time, you know, and

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it works. Not all the time, but it works. So...

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All hail the light.

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That's a great idea.

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You know where this would be useful for? You should sell this to schools. Put it in their cafeteria,

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keep the volume below this certain level, put it in the classroom. Hey, don't forget, we're in yellow mode right now, kids,

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So quiet voices put it on the hallway as you're walking by all that stuff

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Yeah, yellow mode it like moves the max threshold down or something like hey, it's yeah

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Remember, we're in a zone two and there's four zones. You can't go above that or whatever

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They literally have that at my son's elementary school. They'll be like, hey, we're walking through the hall

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So we're at level two for our quiet voices right now or whatever and no hard way to know right?

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Yeah, yeah, it's just it means nothing right to quantify it for them

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Yeah, I mean you got you got you got schools you got daycares you got I mean everything

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every classroom

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Your case will be thrown out old man

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Honestly, this could be it this could be a solution for the for the detriment of open office concepts that have plagued our working

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Society even oh

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Yeah, just stop talking

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Yeah, right cuz libraries secretary of state

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Gamified decibel meters. This is fun. Yeah, I think kids forget or they just don't even know that their voices are so loud

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Exactly what was happening all the time all this past adults - I

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Have several people in my life that escalate each other to the point where they're screaming at each other

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Yes

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So, how do you make it not into a game that the kids are trying to you know

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If you see like us one of those signs that tells you how fast you're going

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How does the kid just not want to hit that?

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Scott this is what you do you put a bowl of Skittles and as they scream

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Skittles just pour into a blender and dissolve in front of them

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And the law it just like hundreds of Skittles and then let's start screaming no

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But then they stop immediately because they don't want more Skittles to honestly, you know

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Blender makes so much noise that it keeps the blender going

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Skittle drops in to the bull right or something

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So if you stay below the meter only one you get a skittle you get a ski or like some version of that, right?

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But then as soon as they scream hundreds of skittles just burn into a fire dog treat

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That's the loud light platinum version, you know, you get that you get the blender and the skittles

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-The loud light. -The loud light.

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-Or you do fake coins for a pizza party.

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You want to get boring with this, right?

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You get the fake money dollars. -I'm going to pour some Skittle blenders.

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-Pour the money out when the coin-- People are too loud.

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That would be-- -Yes, hang up their favorite stuffed animal

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above the blender.

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-It just lowers a little bit each time.

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-No.

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He's--

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-Woofie, no.

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- We're trying not to scar another generation.

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- Well then don't yell.

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- Don't yell.

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(laughing)

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- You remember what happened to your doll's little toesies.

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- It's your trauma.

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Guys, I literally was joking with Gary,

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my daughter's 14 months,

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and she only knows how to scream

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at the top of her lungs for anything.

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And I'm like, do they have bark collars for their daughters?

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They just, like a little vibration to know,

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oh, that's a little loud, right?

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Not like a shock collar, but like--

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That's what shock collars can do.

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This is much better, Scott.

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I think it's--

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I want it on record.

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I did not recommend shock collars for children

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in this idea at any point.

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No, no, no, we're changing the episode title.

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Shock Collars for Kids by Scott.

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[LAUGHTER]

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The louder they get, the shockier it gets.

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All right, Leo, what do you got for us this week?

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It's so funny.

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My main idea that I was going to bring before you even said

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anything about this is also a LED-based information

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visual for kids.

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Oops, all LEDs.

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Oops, all LEDs for kids.

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So I want to solve the age-old generational problem of the,

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are we there yet in the car?

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I think we could make an LED bar, a strip of some kind that

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goes behind the passenger and driver's seats on the ceiling

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that represents the map data progress toward our destination.

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So you program in on your phone or whatever,

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we are headed from here to here,

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it's gonna be a 23 minute drive,

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and you just got like the dots traveling from left to right

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that they can see, oh, we're about halfway,

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or oh, we got a long way to go still,

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or look at that, we're almost here.

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It could do five minute warning,

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like gentle breathing blinkings.

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It could do your turn signal, we're about to turn,

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so it lights up on one side for a minute.

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You could just to communicate, where are we on our journey

495
00:23:59,420 --> 00:24:00,920
to the backseat passively so that you

496
00:24:01,060 --> 00:24:04,820
stop having that we're almost there conversation or the dad,

497
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:05,720
how long left?

498
00:24:06,360 --> 00:24:07,160
Dots on the road.

499
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,040
I immediately think this is like Pac-Man.

500
00:24:09,140 --> 00:24:10,900
Like Pac-Man is eating all these treats going.

501
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:12,940
So let's bring Russell's Skittle idea.

502
00:24:13,300 --> 00:24:14,980
Every time you hit one of those dots on the map,

503
00:24:15,020 --> 00:24:15,920
a Skittle comes out.

504
00:24:16,050 --> 00:24:16,580
As long as you've been quiet.

505
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,220
Shoots at their face, one mile intervals or something.

506
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,320
I need a decibel meter from your company, Scott, in my car.

507
00:24:24,340 --> 00:24:25,520
Hey, that's a good spot for it.

508
00:24:26,140 --> 00:24:32,420
So so this might get way too complicated to expand on the idea.

509
00:24:33,340 --> 00:24:33,760
Yeah, please.

510
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:43,100
But like, so my kids, we have a DVD player right in our in our minivan that we, you know, have a bunch of DVDs for for the kids on long road trips.

511
00:24:43,660 --> 00:24:49,220
And what if what if the speed of the movie synced up to the time it takes to get to the destination?

512
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,420
So the movie ended right when you got there.

513
00:24:53,740 --> 00:24:57,800
You stick in all the bonus scenes and you loop a couple times here and there.

514
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:04,160
Or it's just like picking from your media library from the hundreds of movies.

515
00:25:04,530 --> 00:25:06,080
Recommend any of these movies will fit.

516
00:25:06,180 --> 00:25:09,900
If we grab this, this, and this episode, it'll be exactly 38 minutes or whatever.

517
00:25:10,140 --> 00:25:10,820
That's cool.

518
00:25:11,340 --> 00:25:13,240
Dude, I want that for like airplanes and stuff.

519
00:25:13,300 --> 00:25:13,840
That's a great idea.

520
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:18,540
Well, little kids, if it's a little faster, if the movie, you know, vocals go a little

521
00:25:18,940 --> 00:25:21,220
faster or a little slower, they're not going to notice.

522
00:25:21,220 --> 00:25:24,640
I mean, they're watching like Shrek and stuff, and it's like, you know, they don't care.

523
00:25:25,340 --> 00:25:30,820
And so I would also absolutely try to break that system to be like, I'm going like down the street, play Shrek.

524
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:31,500
Let's go.

525
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:32,360
Hey, donkey!

526
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:33,240
[mimics donkey]

527
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:35,160
[laughter]

528
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,140
Somebody once told me the world's gonna roll me.

529
00:25:38,559 --> 00:25:38,960
[laughter]

530
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:40,760
End credits.

531
00:25:41,360 --> 00:25:41,760
[laughter]

532
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:44,760
I love that.

533
00:25:44,860 --> 00:25:47,680
No, the LED progress bar, Leo, is so smart.

534
00:25:47,980 --> 00:25:48,140
Yeah.

535
00:25:48,580 --> 00:25:53,180
I think I've pitched before like LED countdown timers for kids to visualize that just around the house

536
00:25:53,180 --> 00:25:54,660
So this is kind of a natural extension

537
00:25:55,040 --> 00:26:00,440
Maybe it's even something you could take in the house and turn into the 10-minute timer for just everyday life - I don't know

538
00:26:00,740 --> 00:26:02,200
Yeah, I mean use it for timeouts

539
00:26:02,980 --> 00:26:08,080
Right now your timeouts gonna be five minutes this time ten minutes a modernized

540
00:26:09,220 --> 00:26:12,559
controllable sand timer that's synced up to

541
00:26:13,060 --> 00:26:18,120
Your you know Google Maps that you've pulled up for your driver destination thing

542
00:26:18,180 --> 00:26:21,780
That's yeah, that's genius because then it doesn't have to be a car. It can be anywhere

543
00:26:22,140 --> 00:26:29,280
You can sync it up no matter the setting. That's great. Yeah, you make a smart sand timer adjusting the aperture

544
00:26:29,420 --> 00:26:34,220
I guess between the two I don't know how to do that now like somehow measuring the weight or something

545
00:26:34,220 --> 00:26:38,100
I don't even know how that would work. I have seen people do like the falling sand visualizations on

546
00:26:38,660 --> 00:26:46,020
LED matrix matrices, so you could probably have like a digital display that's, you know, simulating sand or something, but that's not as cool.

547
00:26:46,900 --> 00:26:49,940
We love physical representations of digital data on this show.

548
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:57,740
It'd be a great app to add, like, as a, I feel like there's little menus you can add to your iPad while they're watching a

549
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,420
show at the same time as, like, your LED time.

550
00:27:00,460 --> 00:27:06,740
So instead of doing physical, you could just be watching your show and there's an overlay of your, of your drive on top of it

551
00:27:06,620 --> 00:27:10,960
That's like oh two minutes left so that show is gonna be done

552
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:15,180
My kid loves to wait until the show's over before he gets out of the car

553
00:27:16,060 --> 00:27:22,000
There was a fit. You know what I mean? It's like it's just it's not it's not sass. It's TAS time as a service

554
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,580
But if you have a 45 minute drive

555
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:33,660
Then you're right Marc turning that 48 minute show into a 45 minute show is easy stretch it by 1.01

556
00:27:34,340 --> 00:27:38,580
speed or whatever and you're good to go right? Yep. That's fun. That was some

557
00:27:38,660 --> 00:27:42,240
quick math I just did. I don't know. That works out perfectly.

558
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:52,780
Russell what do you got for us this week? So I'm driving around a lot and I see a

559
00:27:52,780 --> 00:27:57,140
lot of empty lots and every time I see these commercial empty lots I'm like man

560
00:27:57,260 --> 00:28:02,820
I'd love to put a coffee shop there or a taco truck or something like that

561
00:28:02,620 --> 00:28:07,500
that right but the thing is it's such a high risk to put something in that

562
00:28:07,740 --> 00:28:15,720
location so I would love to do pop-up trial trucks as a service right so if

563
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:20,440
you want to launch a coffee company in this spot you pop up a food truck

564
00:28:20,660 --> 00:28:26,460
that's there 24/7 or whatever or like a you know you bring in the Amazon house

565
00:28:26,940 --> 00:28:32,200
place your bagel shop there and run it for three months now whoever is

566
00:28:32,100 --> 00:28:37,040
co-interested in that experience, shares in that risk and that investment.

567
00:28:37,660 --> 00:28:43,940
So you're just the service that provides the business, literally business in a box for

568
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,820
those given locations and you share in the profits and earnings.

569
00:28:48,500 --> 00:28:51,760
And that's, that's, it's, yeah, it's kind of like...

570
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:52,700
Russell, that's amazing.

571
00:28:53,150 --> 00:28:54,140
Oh, and it's house shopping.

572
00:28:54,300 --> 00:28:59,859
I'm looking at like modular homes, like, they're like, you can get very high end, crazy nice

573
00:28:59,860 --> 00:29:03,860
houses now that they're just like pick in place put together on there just do

574
00:29:03,940 --> 00:29:08,180
that with stores just like I'm gonna turn this empty lot over here into a

575
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:12,120
Starbucks or some equivalent coffee shop three different pieces come together all

576
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:16,140
out of shipping containers set it up for temporary all you need is a concrete

577
00:29:16,260 --> 00:29:20,640
platform Tom Scott's lateral podcast is a like a puzzle lateral thinking thing

578
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:24,299
and they had a question on there what is it that White Castle did to insulate

579
00:29:24,300 --> 00:29:29,520
themselves from rent hikes and failing store locations and stuff.

580
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:33,180
And they've done this where the entirety of a White Castle store,

581
00:29:33,850 --> 00:29:36,480
more or less all their locations can be put on a truck and moved.

582
00:29:37,060 --> 00:29:39,900
So if they're like, if they have a landlord that hikes up the rent of the lot

583
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,620
too much or their location isn't doing well, they can just like move down the

584
00:29:43,740 --> 00:29:46,300
street or across town or whatever with the same building.

585
00:29:46,820 --> 00:29:47,360
That's yeah.

586
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:52,620
You want to like White Castle-ify the, the idea of trying a business for the first time.

587
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:52,840
Yeah.

588
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:53,700
That's so fun.

589
00:29:53,900 --> 00:29:57,880
And there's so many like empty lots now, I feel like, or spots where like,

590
00:29:58,060 --> 00:30:02,860
"Oh, I want to launch a coffee shop, but I want to make sure it's going to be cool,

591
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,480
valid," you know, like foot traffic.

592
00:30:05,700 --> 00:30:06,780
You're making all these assumptions.

593
00:30:06,810 --> 00:30:07,680
You just de-risk.

594
00:30:08,170 --> 00:30:11,400
You only need like three or four different types of stores too.

595
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:15,620
Like your classic restaurant, your classic like commerce store.

596
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:17,300
Coffee one would be its own.

597
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:17,860
Oh man.

598
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:23,440
Like bubble tea locations, like all these like unique little things that are like,

599
00:30:23,500 --> 00:30:24,180
Oh, that'd be cool.

600
00:30:24,300 --> 00:30:25,200
Or like crumble cook.

601
00:30:25,300 --> 00:30:27,520
I mean, I don't know why crumble cookie is just killing it everywhere

602
00:30:27,900 --> 00:30:29,560
because I guess cookies, but like.

603
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:30,440
It's because weed's legal.

604
00:30:33,700 --> 00:30:35,560
There's definitely a correlation there.

605
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:37,280
Boom, a weed truck.

606
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,440
You could just roll up in a weed truck, right?

607
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:41,260
Test the location, you know?

608
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:42,000
Yeah.

609
00:30:42,340 --> 00:30:45,920
But how unique do these different designs need to, I mean, if you want to try out

610
00:30:45,980 --> 00:30:50,760
a Froyo shop versus a bubble tea place, that can be the same building, right?

611
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:56,000
Like you don't, it doesn't need to have a ton of specialized exterior layout or whatever.

612
00:30:56,300 --> 00:30:56,380
Right.

613
00:30:56,940 --> 00:30:57,420
Exactly.

614
00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,900
I'd say you just keep the exact same building.

615
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,340
It's supposed to kind of be janky.

616
00:31:02,710 --> 00:31:08,040
If you are not providing a good enough product to get past the jankiness,

617
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:09,960
that's telling you a lot already.

618
00:31:10,420 --> 00:31:10,620
Right.

619
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:11,300
Sure.

620
00:31:11,300 --> 00:31:16,900
The brand isn't perfect and like the quality isn't great maybe, but if you

621
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:21,260
you still get foot traffic and people coming to the store,

622
00:31:21,340 --> 00:31:23,300
it means there's something there, right?

623
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,000
- You're doing something right with your product.

624
00:31:25,900 --> 00:31:26,900
- You're filling a gap.

625
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,820
- Yeah, 'cause the type of companies that you're describing

626
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,740
are, it's really, really difficult to prove

627
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,360
that you have a good solution and a valuable offering

628
00:31:37,940 --> 00:31:42,100
before investing a bunch of money in an actual location.

629
00:31:42,660 --> 00:31:44,300
So that's great.

630
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,140
- Like Subway, like even Subway franchise locations, right?

631
00:31:48,340 --> 00:31:53,040
Like I think franchises should be our huge customer of ours

632
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,320
to help de-risk their costs as well.

633
00:31:56,460 --> 00:31:59,540
'Cause they're, I think, sharing in some of the investment

634
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:01,920
or the brand equity, right?

635
00:32:02,060 --> 00:32:04,620
So if you're just launching Subways everywhere

636
00:32:04,690 --> 00:32:06,080
and half of them shut down,

637
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:07,660
well, it looks bad for the brand.

638
00:32:07,740 --> 00:32:10,560
So make a, you know, we create like a Subway truck

639
00:32:10,860 --> 00:32:13,799
that goes to random locations and sees if people

640
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,820
or modular home sees that people are gonna roll up to that.

641
00:32:16,900 --> 00:32:20,200
You post up for three months and move on, right?

642
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,020
- I think it needs to be longer than that

643
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:26,800
because our small town here had a Popeyes move in

644
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,260
about two years ago and I've never seen it in my life

645
00:32:29,340 --> 00:32:33,320
where a drive-thru line goes out to the road,

646
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,960
in, wraps around the building once,

647
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,020
wraps around again to the window,

648
00:32:38,260 --> 00:32:40,080
a double-layered drive-thru wrap,

649
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,500
And now, two years later, empty, totally gone.

650
00:32:43,940 --> 00:32:45,520
Raising Cane's up in Grand Rapids,

651
00:32:45,700 --> 00:32:47,260
open last week or a couple weeks ago,

652
00:32:47,620 --> 00:32:49,400
same story, just line out the door.

653
00:32:49,500 --> 00:32:51,900
I think it's not gonna be lined down the street

654
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:53,760
in three months, right?

655
00:32:53,900 --> 00:32:55,960
So you need to get over that initial hump

656
00:32:56,220 --> 00:32:59,160
of it's got novelty to it, everyone wants to try it

657
00:32:59,180 --> 00:33:00,140
'cause it just moved in,

658
00:33:00,390 --> 00:33:02,400
and see what the actual traffic will be like

659
00:33:02,500 --> 00:33:04,700
like six months or a year down the line, you know?

660
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:06,880
- That's true, that's so true.

661
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:08,280
You can just pick up and move.

662
00:33:08,540 --> 00:33:10,120
Oh, and you still make the money.

663
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,380
You're like, you're still ran a successful business

664
00:33:13,860 --> 00:33:16,700
for a year, but you quit while you were ahead.

665
00:33:17,180 --> 00:33:18,820
- Or you even test, you wanna be Subway,

666
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,940
why don't you put in like Bob's Generic Sandwiches

667
00:33:21,980 --> 00:33:24,040
in that spot for a year, see if people like it,

668
00:33:24,140 --> 00:33:26,720
and if they don't, then you know that's not a good spot

669
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:27,960
for your Subway or vice versa.

670
00:33:28,220 --> 00:33:29,580
Wow, there was a lot of sandwich demand

671
00:33:29,700 --> 00:33:31,000
on this side of whatever.

672
00:33:32,820 --> 00:33:36,319
- I was even thinking like, what if you partnered

673
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:41,820
with companies who are closed during the times

674
00:33:42,340 --> 00:33:43,640
where you want to be open.

675
00:33:44,540 --> 00:33:50,020
And so if I have a dinner type restaurant idea

676
00:33:51,100 --> 00:33:55,360
and a local coffee shop is never open after 4 PM,

677
00:33:56,180 --> 00:33:58,600
can I strike a deal with them to set up my pop-up shop

678
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:03,520
or even just use their location, quick rebrand in the evenings?

679
00:34:03,610 --> 00:34:05,320
They get to split in my revenue.

680
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,320
I'm not interfering with their business because they're closed during that time

681
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:14,200
anyway. How many restaurants in Holland are closed on Sundays or Mondays? Like

682
00:34:14,240 --> 00:34:19,260
that's like a staple thing. Like all the restaurants in Holland closed on

683
00:34:19,419 --> 00:34:25,760
Mondays, right? So just replace those with a temporary pop-up. That's great. I just

684
00:34:25,879 --> 00:34:30,360
pull a lever and all the signs like flip from like Mr. Hughes to something else.

685
00:34:30,980 --> 00:34:36,820
Yeah. That makes me wonder like how many other synergies are there between you. Yeah, it's a good, yeah exactly.

686
00:34:36,980 --> 00:34:41,520
It is. There are, you've got your coffee versus, you know, that they always close at 2 p.m. or whatever.

687
00:34:41,570 --> 00:34:46,860
I wonder what other yin and yang businesses could go together like that. That's interesting.

688
00:34:47,899 --> 00:34:50,620
Breakfast places and dinner places, right? Naturally.

689
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:56,700
Yeah, we've got a couple greasy spoon diner type places that I think close after lunch. You could have your fine dining

690
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:01,120
in the same run down whatever for dinner.

691
00:35:01,460 --> 00:35:01,600
Yeah.

692
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:03,580
I wonder if you do that seasonally too.

693
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:05,220
Yeah, that's what I was thinking.

694
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,140
So, I mean, there's like Grand Haven, Holland.

695
00:35:08,740 --> 00:35:10,720
Those are tourist towns in the summer.

696
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,420
And, you know, engagement customers plummet in the winter.

697
00:35:15,020 --> 00:35:18,880
So if you had, you know, seasonal yin and yang business ideas.

698
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,160
Cross country ski shop over the winter and...

699
00:35:21,820 --> 00:35:22,180
Yeah.

700
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,480
Find and see food place in the summer.

701
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,660
This is kind of like the spirit Halloween model

702
00:35:29,700 --> 00:35:30,160
Yes

703
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:37,540
So warehouse for 11 months of the year one month they take over an abandoned warehouse and sell it all

704
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:49,920
Marc close us out. What do you got? What's your billion-dollar idea? Oh boy. No pressure

705
00:35:53,780 --> 00:35:55,140
Okay, so

706
00:35:55,140 --> 00:36:00,780
This is an homage to Ringcam because I was trying to narrow down what I wanted to talk

707
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,040
about and I had an idea that's wedding related.

708
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:10,960
So there was a season of my life a few years after I graduated where every single person

709
00:36:11,060 --> 00:36:12,300
I knew was getting married.

710
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:19,680
So I had a couple summers straight where nearly every weekend I was at a wedding or actually

711
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,240
standing part of the you know party whatever.

712
00:36:23,220 --> 00:36:32,700
And I noticed a huge trend where no wedding ever goes according to plan.

713
00:36:33,020 --> 00:36:37,620
There's always delays, there's always miscommunications, no one knows what's going on.

714
00:36:38,580 --> 00:36:46,020
And so I'm sitting in a parking lot with the whole bridal party of a wedding and we're

715
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:50,420
standing outside and we're supposed to go into the reception area and we're being told

716
00:36:50,340 --> 00:36:53,200
to wait and we've taken no pictures yet.

717
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:55,700
We have no idea what's going on.

718
00:36:56,020 --> 00:37:01,140
And we sat there for 45 minutes and everyone was like, I wish we had a way to know what

719
00:37:01,180 --> 00:37:01,860
was going on.

720
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:09,760
So enter in the, I don't have a creative name for it yet, but a wedding, a wedding day planning

721
00:37:09,940 --> 00:37:10,240
app.

722
00:37:10,720 --> 00:37:10,820
Okay.

723
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:11,620
So here's how it goes.

724
00:37:11,720 --> 00:37:12,320
Start to finish.

725
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:18,600
You're invited to a wedding and you get invited and you get access to, to this app, this website,

726
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:25,280
And you are classified by your role in the wedding just an attendee on the bride or the groom side

727
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:29,240
A part of the wedding party, you know groomsmen bridesmaid

728
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:30,940
best man, whatever

729
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:32,420
and

730
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:37,080
You're put into those groups and not just the wedding planner that they hired

731
00:37:37,420 --> 00:37:42,760
But the bride and groom and everyone can all communicate with the specific parties that need to know information

732
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,980
Whenever something happens so through that app you get the full itinerary

733
00:37:47,140 --> 00:37:50,600
You get messages from the planner like, "Hey, we're delayed 20 minutes.

734
00:37:50,940 --> 00:37:51,420
Something happened.

735
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:53,600
Hey, now everyone, notification.

736
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:54,580
You got to go over here.

737
00:37:54,700 --> 00:37:55,500
It's going to take 10 minutes.

738
00:37:55,720 --> 00:37:57,480
Just a reminder, we're meeting over there."

739
00:37:57,740 --> 00:38:04,540
And so it is a way for the wedding planner to communicate with each group if schedules

740
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,100
change, which they always do.

741
00:38:06,820 --> 00:38:13,580
Everyone can get notified, especially in messages that apply to particularly your role in the

742
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:13,900
wedding.

743
00:38:15,300 --> 00:38:20,540
And then on the opposite side as an attendee or as the actual person getting married, it

744
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:26,520
becomes a way for everyone to share all of the pictures, all of the footage, all the

745
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:31,960
videos that everyone who attended the wedding took and captured.

746
00:38:32,470 --> 00:38:39,060
And so when Anne and I, my wife, got done with our wedding, we had all the photographer's

747
00:38:39,060 --> 00:38:43,460
pictures that we hired and we got a few sent to us from friends and stuff.

748
00:38:44,020 --> 00:38:49,260
But there are hundreds of pictures, special moments that got captured that we will never

749
00:38:49,420 --> 00:38:50,660
see, never know about.

750
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:55,780
And if everyone used this app as a, not just a planning coordinating app, but as a data

751
00:38:55,900 --> 00:39:00,740
dump for wedding footage pictures, we would be able to look through all of that stuff.

752
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,040
We'd be able to see it, save the ones we liked.

753
00:39:03,510 --> 00:39:10,840
And so it's not just for the wedding planner, but also for all the attendees to share, comment,

754
00:39:11,300 --> 00:39:11,460
whatever.

755
00:39:12,180 --> 00:39:15,960
It's a full-blown wedding day planning app.

756
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:20,120
And we're gonna scale it, we're gonna get the user base,

757
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,760
we're gonna ride it for about two to three years,

758
00:39:23,060 --> 00:39:24,580
and then we're gonna sell it to the not.

759
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,680
- Yeah, yeah, or Zola or whatever.

760
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:28,320
- They would love this.

761
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,700
- This could translate one for one

762
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,340
with complicated family vacations

763
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,580
that you're bringing in additional people to,

764
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,560
or family reunions, or any situation

765
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,460
where you're trying to coordinate more than six people

766
00:39:41,460 --> 00:39:44,600
who are not immediate family onto a schedule of some kind,

767
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:44,900
right?

768
00:39:45,260 --> 00:39:47,720
Just have a giant sign at the entrance of whatever

769
00:39:47,820 --> 00:39:49,760
the event is with a big QR code and be like,

770
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:51,640
scan this immediately, log in here,

771
00:39:51,730 --> 00:39:53,320
and then all your info in one spot.

772
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:54,080
Could be web-based.

773
00:39:54,780 --> 00:39:55,820
Yeah, web-based, honestly.

774
00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:00,080
Man, I love this idea because I think during the wedding,

775
00:40:00,340 --> 00:40:03,520
my wedding, everybody was texting me or my wife about,

776
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,820
hey, just we're friends, right?

777
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,560
So obviously, you can tell me where to park.

778
00:40:09,820 --> 00:40:11,280
"What table am I at?" or whatever.

779
00:40:12,140 --> 00:40:13,520
- Yeah, just those little things

780
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,000
that doesn't seem like a big deal

781
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:16,080
when you're texting your buddy,

782
00:40:16,540 --> 00:40:18,460
but you realize, oh, they're getting texts

783
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:20,940
from hundreds of people that day probably, right?

784
00:40:22,260 --> 00:40:24,160
And they're all more important than your stupid little

785
00:40:24,240 --> 00:40:25,480
where do I go text, right?

786
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:27,480
This would be, I think the group,

787
00:40:27,820 --> 00:40:31,340
the tagging of what party you're in is so helpful,

788
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,640
because if my parents were in that group chat

789
00:40:34,720 --> 00:40:36,480
or saw those posts coming in,

790
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:38,260
they would be able to respond,

791
00:40:38,340 --> 00:40:40,680
Or somebody, like kind of that group thinking,

792
00:40:40,900 --> 00:40:42,660
would be like, right, where is everybody?

793
00:40:42,660 --> 00:40:44,760
Some actual escalation inside there.

794
00:40:45,340 --> 00:40:46,180
Keep a ticket system.

795
00:40:46,220 --> 00:40:48,380
You've been escalated to tier two tech support.

796
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:49,000
It's grandma.

797
00:40:49,220 --> 00:40:49,780
She's on it.

798
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:51,060
Uh-oh, tier three.

799
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:52,900
You're over to the sister-in-law.

800
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:55,080
Patching in wife.

801
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,440
Honestly, though, if it had the itinerary,

802
00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,920
you could be blocking off, like, at this time,

803
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,680
the big headline on the front page of my wedding app

804
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,680
is this is where parking is.

805
00:41:04,820 --> 00:41:06,940
And when this block happens, that's

806
00:41:06,940 --> 00:41:09,480
You're like guiding the person through the day, right?

807
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,100
All the attendees, that's awesome.

808
00:41:11,720 --> 00:41:11,840
- Yep.

809
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,400
- I think making that agenda is so hard though.

810
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:16,200
I think looking back though,

811
00:41:16,420 --> 00:41:19,080
I would have loved to like think through,

812
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,720
like you have to kind of pretend to be the person

813
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:22,480
that's at your wedding.

814
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:23,440
Did they get the hotel?

815
00:41:24,220 --> 00:41:25,960
Did they get their gift bag?

816
00:41:25,980 --> 00:41:28,520
Are they, like you have to literally go through three days

817
00:41:28,580 --> 00:41:31,260
of this person's life in order to figure out every step.

818
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,320
And it's always the minor inconvenience

819
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,220
that can throw everybody off, right?

820
00:41:35,340 --> 00:41:37,460
Like, how do I get back to the hotel room

821
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:39,000
after the wedding, right?

822
00:41:39,340 --> 00:41:41,540
You had this whole thing planned out with the caterer,

823
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,840
but you just didn't communicate it through the agenda

824
00:41:44,060 --> 00:41:45,800
because you just forgot that line.

825
00:41:46,380 --> 00:41:49,180
And then now the hive mind has to communicate out,

826
00:41:49,240 --> 00:41:50,860
like, everybody just tell everybody

827
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:52,660
there's a shuttle coming every 20 minutes

828
00:41:52,660 --> 00:41:53,440
or something, right?

829
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:55,240
Like, that's hard.

830
00:41:55,260 --> 00:41:57,340
And I think, I guess what I'm saying is like,

831
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,760
the agenda making, the parking stuff,

832
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:02,800
these are for all the, it's like Reddit

833
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:04,860
for this wedding, right?

834
00:42:05,460 --> 00:42:07,640
People randomly post stuff and randomly comment,

835
00:42:08,140 --> 00:42:08,960
and it can be anonymous.

836
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:10,140
I don't know if it has to be anonymous or not.

837
00:42:10,140 --> 00:42:11,600
The chattering board or whatever, yeah.

838
00:42:11,900 --> 00:42:14,060
I don't know if I want my family commenting

839
00:42:14,240 --> 00:42:15,740
or ability for them to comment.

840
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:17,040
(laughing)

841
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:19,980
Russell, you bring up a great dynamic.

842
00:42:20,100 --> 00:42:24,180
So we've talked about communication with different parties,

843
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,660
but what about the day of Corb Daters communication

844
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:28,440
with vendors?

845
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:34,820
like the catering, the DJ, the minister,

846
00:42:35,020 --> 00:42:36,940
everyone's added in that, the photographer,

847
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,740
and they can communicate with each of those people

848
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:42,780
for coordinating things.

849
00:42:42,780 --> 00:42:45,040
'Cause I mean, day of wedding coordinators are huge.

850
00:42:45,340 --> 00:42:48,020
Like that is, everyone's getting them now.

851
00:42:49,020 --> 00:42:52,840
And so that's having that person be able to communicate

852
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:56,520
with all the vendors and set the entire invite list up

853
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:57,840
to communicate with one another.

854
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:02,740
this is the centralized place to like have all their phone numbers and know

855
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:06,060
when things are arriving. It's getting calendared. It's getting, yeah,

856
00:43:06,300 --> 00:43:08,780
you're getting task lists like, okay, flowers have arrived,

857
00:43:08,900 --> 00:43:11,820
but where is this thing? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

858
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,520
And I like out of the building or something.

859
00:43:15,860 --> 00:43:20,740
One in one thing that I don't like about the way things like this are currently

860
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:25,500
handled is I don't want to group chat that is time bound. Yeah.

861
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:31,120
They are so annoying and you know, they're just blasting in messages while they're active.

862
00:43:31,660 --> 00:43:34,220
And this is a, this is a short duration type thing.

863
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:41,020
And to have that all within an app that also contains all the information about the wedding

864
00:43:41,290 --> 00:43:46,260
so that I'm not dealing with like Facebook messenger or like a group chat on my phone.

865
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,820
Everyone's communicating via this interface.

866
00:43:49,500 --> 00:43:49,840
That's great.

867
00:43:50,340 --> 00:43:51,800
I think that's your model.

868
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:56,280
through the vendors, like you're talking as a couple

869
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,100
to all these vendors, the vendors would pay maybe

870
00:43:59,260 --> 00:44:01,900
into this service for whatever reason, right?

871
00:44:01,940 --> 00:44:03,420
Whether it's to talk to other vendors,

872
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,080
but then you as the bride and groom get this benefit

873
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:11,280
of agenda, day of wedding coordinator, group chats,

874
00:44:11,720 --> 00:44:14,920
all that jazz, right, for free and included

875
00:44:15,100 --> 00:44:16,300
because you're working with that vendor.

876
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:20,340
The vendors upselling that as a free service to what,

877
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,700
Like, if you cater with me, you get this awesome app as well.

878
00:44:24,220 --> 00:44:24,580
Yes.

879
00:44:24,580 --> 00:44:24,900
That's good.

880
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,020
And then now the caterer also has control

881
00:44:27,180 --> 00:44:29,460
over the photographer, like a little bit

882
00:44:29,460 --> 00:44:30,240
of that communication.

883
00:44:30,740 --> 00:44:31,180
So it all comes together.

884
00:44:31,180 --> 00:44:32,500
I only pick people on Prime.

885
00:44:32,550 --> 00:44:34,540
I only pick people with this service, my vendors.

886
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:35,480
Yeah.

887
00:44:36,020 --> 00:44:38,620
I was going to pitch a much worse version, which is you

888
00:44:38,860 --> 00:44:40,640
are the couple, you're looking at it,

889
00:44:40,700 --> 00:44:43,460
and oh, this florist has paid to be like--

890
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,380
have you thought about this kind of whatever?

891
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,060
This is like the catalog of services for you to pick from,

892
00:44:48,140 --> 00:44:50,240
and they're advertising for places in there, you know?

893
00:44:50,720 --> 00:44:55,460
But I feel like you having like recommended partners and stuff that are curated is way

894
00:44:55,660 --> 00:44:58,440
better than just another place to show ads.

895
00:44:59,180 --> 00:44:59,380
Yeah.

896
00:44:59,540 --> 00:45:06,040
I think, yeah, I think the person this gets sold to is the wedding planner slash day of

897
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:06,560
coordinator.

898
00:45:06,740 --> 00:45:06,860
Yeah.

899
00:45:07,240 --> 00:45:07,340
Yeah.

900
00:45:07,420 --> 00:45:13,500
And then they offer it to their clientele as an add on service, uh, or they just use

901
00:45:13,500 --> 00:45:16,900
it behind the scenes just for vendor communication stuff.

902
00:45:17,420 --> 00:45:20,540
And yeah, that's, uh, it's like a,

903
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:25,960
Like an Asana or monday.com or whatever, but hyper specific to like agendaing.

904
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:31,020
It's a project management tool, but specifically for event coordination and

905
00:45:31,140 --> 00:45:32,820
planning, I wonder if something like that exists already.

906
00:45:33,260 --> 00:45:33,640
That's cool.

907
00:45:33,860 --> 00:45:33,960
Yeah.

908
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,960
And if you, as like a, like, let's say I'm the one getting married.

909
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:42,800
If all the wedding planner told me was, Hey, if you use this app, you'll be able

910
00:45:42,860 --> 00:45:47,480
to collect everyone's photos and videos and everything like that from everywhere.

911
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,440
I would, I would instantly be like, Oh yeah, of course.

912
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:54,000
Like I'm gonna do that and you can white label to like you go to

913
00:45:54,820 --> 00:45:58,120
Bob and Diane calm and it's actually powered by this

914
00:45:58,380 --> 00:46:04,560
It's a you know website generator and there's a view for vendor of you for coordinator view for a party of you for guests

915
00:46:05,060 --> 00:46:10,940
Regular guests totally. Yep. That's great. I think your exit strategy should be buying the not not getting bought by them

916
00:46:20,020 --> 00:46:20,500
CEO

917
00:46:20,500 --> 00:46:21,460
Just walk away.

918
00:46:22,580 --> 00:46:22,700
Done.

919
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:27,740
Well, to your listener, if you are listening to this while looking through your scrapbook

920
00:46:27,780 --> 00:46:31,920
of wedding planning ideas, thank you very much for joining us, and we hope you enjoyed

921
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:32,220
yourself.

922
00:46:32,420 --> 00:46:34,140
And thank you so much, Marc, for joining us.

923
00:46:34,180 --> 00:46:34,860
This was really fun.

924
00:46:35,660 --> 00:46:36,560
Thank you for having me.

925
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:38,000
That's a banger idea.

926
00:46:38,100 --> 00:46:40,780
We'll have to have you back for one of those other 50 ideas from your book.

927
00:46:42,900 --> 00:46:45,180
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928
00:46:45,260 --> 00:46:48,400
There you can find our YouTube channels, other social media.

929
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:56,920
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930
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:03,420
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931
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:05,720
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932
00:47:05,720 --> 00:47:08,440
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933
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:13,700
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934
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:19,900
really needs some levity in the stress that comes with getting that organized, send them

935
00:47:19,900 --> 00:47:20,560
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936
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,320
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937
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:27,020
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938
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939
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940
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