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I'm Scott, I'm Russell, and I'm Leo.

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This is Spitball.

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Welcome to Spitball, where three international inventors and a guest empty our heads of startup

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and tech product ideas that we have stuck up in there so you can all have them for free.

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Anything that we say is yours to keep.

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And Russell, I believe you brought our guest this week.

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- Yes, this is Tonje from Norway.

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I botch these all the time, so just give me

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a little slack here, our favorite listeners.

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- We'll edit it down to something usable.

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- Yeah, she's the CEO, co-founder of Somebody Make It,

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which is a company that's flipping the script

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on how products get made.

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So instead of guessing what people want,

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they ask you to drop your wildest physical product ideas

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and validate the demand,

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and see if your idea gets popular among buyers,

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connects you with makers who can build it,

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and you get royalties along the way.

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So I hope that's a good recap.

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I thought it was a great overlap

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to what we do here on Spitball.

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And we kind of just bumped into each other online.

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So welcome, Tonja.

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I hope I said your name correctly too.

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I'm just a Midwest American, you know,

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trying my best, so.

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- Yes, it was perfect.

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- Thank you.

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And thank you so much for inviting me here.

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- Yeah.

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- We're so excited to have you.

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So how long have you been doing Somebody Make It?

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- So I think I woke up one morning in January this year.

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- Wow.

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- And yeah, it just hit me.

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Then I went online.

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Is it someone who has made Somebody Make It before?

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And then I found this Reddit thread

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called Somebody Make This.

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(laughing)

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And I saw, whoa, so many people are actually posting their ideas.

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It's amazing.

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But what's happening to them?

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They just get votes and then they disappear.

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Totally.

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So yeah, that's when it all started.

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But, um, before that, of course I had a heart and love for creatives and, uh,

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creators, makers, creating awesome physical products.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So who is, who is somebody make it for?

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What are our listeners?

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Would it be something that they would be interested in?

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I really hope so.

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So it's for anyone who has a brilliant idea or not so good idea, but want to test it out.

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That's what we do here, the not so good ones.

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Well, fantastic.

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Where, where do you find?

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So you go to somebody make it calm and just post an idea.

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Yes, you can do that.

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You can also sign up as a maker if you do have the skills to create something awesome.

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So we only invite them there aside makers who can actually prove that they can make something.

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But we we want to make it easier for the creators so that you don't have to do the marketing job yourself.

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don't have to do the paperwork or all the things around actually creating. Yeah, so that's the two

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target groups. Well, in 51 episodes, I think pretty much every one of my half-baked ideas has

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been, "I wish somebody would just go and make this thing." So I have a lot of posting to do.

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Yeah. Amazing.

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Fantastic. Well, we talked a little bit before the show, and, Tonja, you said that you have so

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ideas that you're like, Oh, we could do this.

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We could do that.

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Which one should I talk about?

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And sometimes when we have guests on who have a lot of ideas instead

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of a warmup game or a guest pitch, we'll do a round of inter murals

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where we just throw a half-baked idea out there that doesn't

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really deserve a whole pitch.

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But something that we want to have linger out there as an idea to have

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someone else take and run with someday.

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So I think we're going to do a round of that.

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Gentlemen, lady, guest, who would like to go first on an inter mural pitch?

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Russell, do you have something good?

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- I do, I do, I have a great intramural pitch.

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Well, I think it's great.

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So I was recently learning that you can take

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and eat local honey and it'll help you with allergies.

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ahead of time, you could have a better time

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on your trip, right?

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that the local farmer's market was selling honey

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because then I wouldn't be, you know, like, yeah,

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blowing my nose the whole time I'm here, right?

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So my idea is straight up meeting with local,

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purely local honey vendors and creating a marketplace for you

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to buy ahead of time the honey so you get your allergy

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tolerance to the local flora or whatever.

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That's such a cool idea.

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You could even have it be like a swap,

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Like trade you a honey for a honey and stock your local.

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Oh, oh, you could partner with like...

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It's to come with Airbnb.

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Yeah, Airbnb, there you go.

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I was going to say your local like travel agency or airport or something.

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Like you could have the shelf of at the airport stand.

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Here's the honey from France and from, you know what I mean?

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Like one giant collage of all the locals.

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That's fun.

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This can be huge.

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Oh, I should have used this for my main idea.

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[LAUGHTER]

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This is too good, Russell.

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Easy there.

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Don't get ahead of yourself.

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I love the Airbnb idea, because I could just put an ad

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on every Airbnb purchase.

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Like, don't forget to buy the honey before you go.

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Save yourself the allergy attack.

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Yes, and partner up with the insurance company

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that Airbnb uses as well.

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There you go.

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Why not, right?

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How do you, so are you the middleman, the broker,

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who's coordinating all this?

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- Yeah, and if I wanted to really get good with it,

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I could like, you know, send them packaging

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and all that stuff, make the, you know,

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streamline the logistics.

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That's what I am.

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- Yeah, it's a logistics company.

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- I'm like Amazon, yeah, for honey.

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I'm the Amazon of honey.

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- That's great, there's definitely something there.

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- Did you guys buy it?

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- Yes. - I did get some local money.

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- Definitely, right? - Heck yeah.

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All right, I've got a silly one.

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So single use plastics for shampoos and lotions

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and all that really bother me when they have a pump

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at the top because there's a straw that goes from the top

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down to the bottom of the bottle

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and it never gets all of it.

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at the bottom that you just can't get out.

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trying to do the centrifugal force thing.

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So I was thinking about this problem

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as all good shower thoughts originate.

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What if you had like a salad spinner

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that you set a bottle in and spin it

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so that you're pushing all of the product out, right?

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So you slot any sort of bottle.

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Scott, you look completely perplexed.

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Okay, so the best way to get ketchup out of a bottle

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or anything like that is to do like an arm

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waving through the air motion, right?

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to like get it out, right?

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So you need to automate that by spinning it.

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And I don't quite know how this product looks yet,

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but I'm picturing something that's like a Bundt cake tin,

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or maybe a little bigger, and it spins

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so that the product comes out into a smaller container

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or into like a dish or something

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so you completely empty bottles.

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- What a great intramural idea.

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- Amazing. - Definitely, Leo.

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I love that. - Perfect.

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- What a great, not good idea, thank you.

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- What's this underneath your sink?

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It's a 40 pound device.

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Oh, it's the last quarter of my shampoo.

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It's gas powered.

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[MAKES RASPBERRY NOISE]

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I think maybe you could do this, Leo,

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but you have like, instead of it being electric or gas powered,

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you could have it be like a rope that you swing around

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with a little cup at the end or something, right?

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That's the prototype.

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You're like swinging it like a lasso.

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Oh, interesting.

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It's a little bit more convenient,

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a little more portable, but you might just launch shampoo

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all over your shower.

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I have not put much time yet into the how does it

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get captured at the end and where does it go.

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But getting out of the bottle is the part

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that I was daydreaming about.

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I know what you mean, because I end up leaning it

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against the back, like upside down

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in the corner of the shower.

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this is a waste of time.

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I should just throw this out.

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What is $0.02 worth of my time, right?

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but two cents of ketchup.

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- As we're talking about this, you know what it could be?

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It could be a small product

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that attaches two bottles together

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so that they sit upside down on each other

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and one empties out into the new one that's almost full.

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- Oh, I like this one.

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- You know those tornado things

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that two two-liter bottles would get attached for?

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That's what we need.

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- That's way better.

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- Thanks.

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You don't like my salad spinner?

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Leo is a great intramural idea.

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Always.

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Very much.

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Thank you.

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I'm just picturing ketchup flying everywhere in the bathroom.

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I got a very simple one that I've always wanted to make, but it's just not good

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enough for the full big product here.

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But I have a lot of, I like led lights and led strips and I have them all

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over the house doing everything.

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And I had a, um, a person I worked with who was very convinced that like

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breathing is the most important thing that you can do in terms of calming

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and for relaxation and meditation on there.

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And with all these strips all over the house on it,

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I almost want them to just kind of like breathe with me

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and go with me so just I am always

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in a more meditative state.

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or excited on things, it can just like,

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go with me and I'll just like,

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I know the back of my brain will automatically

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start doing it with this guy.

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And then over time, over a couple of minutes,

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I'll just be in a more calm, reflective state on there.

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Very simple, very simple to create,

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but I know that would do a lot of good for me.

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- It's like light therapy as you go.

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- Light therapy, but breathing therapy.

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- Yeah, a way that I'm not focused on it,

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but it still is helping me out.

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- There's gotta be a calming color spectrum, right?

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- You're talking more about the intensity of it changing.

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- Yeah, the intensity just comes up.

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- Bright to dim to bright to dim.

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- Comes down.

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- Like guiding you.

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- I love that.

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- Guiding, yeah, breathing guiding tool.

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- Wow, that sounds right.

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But I want that in every room in my house.

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It's a part that's interesting is making it aware of you.

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I feel like every little LED trinket that I buy

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that's some cheap Chinese whatever has--

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Has a little feature on there.

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--this one's the flashing animation,

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and this one's the back and forth animation.

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And one of them is always called breathing.

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And it just sort of fades in, fades out, fades in, fades out.

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But it's not smart or aware or useful.

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Pair it with my smartwatch or something

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that I can tell what I'm feeling.

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Oh, that would be--

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Yeah, your heart rate spikes.

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So it can tell when your pulse is getting higher.

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And then--

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Yeah, yeah.

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Yep.

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Now I need to give some extra effort here.

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That's cool.

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Get more in your face.

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Otherwise, they sort of fade into the background.

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I know if I'm in an agitated state, though,

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and all of a sudden my house starts like, relax, relax.

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I'm just going to get more mad.

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Shut the hell up, lights.

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Yeah.

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I'm fine.

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I'm going to turn you off.

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I will unplug you, knock it off.

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That'd be, it's funny how I think about my lights are always on full blast.

298
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Never thought about them like, that's why you're always at full intensity, Russell.

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That's right.

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I'm always all gas, no brakes.

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You have a full blast lights kind of persona.

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Staring at a ring light right now.

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Keeps me awake though.

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That's for sure.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Let me know when you made it.

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I have experienced this a lot and also heard it from other people.

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And maybe you have experienced the same, at least if you have kids.

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So have you experienced when you try to get one baby wipe out of the package that you

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drag out the whole package?

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Yes.

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Oh, my gosh. It's the biggest frustration.

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[laughing]

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Scott, I'm sorry you don't have this problem in your life,

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but my gosh, it's the worst.

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You don't know his life.

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He might have a pack of baby wipes next to him.

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[laughing]

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-Okay, keep going. -Yeah, you have to do it like

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in the time where you do not have two hands,

322
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you've got to like be holding the package down

323
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and trying to, yes, annoying.

324
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Yeah, and your baby is doing the acrobats at the same time.

325
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So you have to hold the baby, focus on taking one napkin out.

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And yeah, it's, it's very annoying.

327
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So have you seen those, like the teats around like a small hole?

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Like a case.

329
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Why isn't this baby napkins inside of one of those instead?

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So you can, you can choose the length and you can also, yeah, just

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take out exactly what you need.

332
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That's fun.

333
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So it's like an accessory for the wipes

334
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that you're pitching here.

335
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Yeah.

336
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You can put your wipes package into this thing.

337
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It's like a roll.

338
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Yes.

339
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It's a roll that you cut like tape.

340
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So I'm thinking like.

341
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Oh.

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Like a tape dispenser.

343
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Yes, thank you.

344
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Yeah.

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Reinventing the form factor of the baby wipe.

346
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That's cool.

347
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So one thing that I always tell new parents

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is store the box of baby wipes upside down

349
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because they always end up dry at the top

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when you first make them.

351
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and then at the very bottom they're too wet.

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So that could solve it.

353
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If it was in a roll form factor, that

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would also help like moisten it evenly as it's

355
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coming out of the package too.

356
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Yeah.

357
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Yes.

358
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Oh, that's genius.

359
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Very fun.

360
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OK, we're just-- create a whole new product.

361
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Look out, tuggy or whatever.

362
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Yeah.

363
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This is like a--

364
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oh, I had an--

365
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I'm going back to your roll on there too, Russell.

366
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Like this is a--

367
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oh, this is like a four roll blowout or something.

368
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like I need this quadruple length before it does the cut on there I don't actually

369
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know you're right sometimes you need like a double wipe if possible like one

370
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single wipe will come out. So this is a whole body contraption? Yeah. I've pitched baby

371
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bidet right before? Have I talked about baby bidet? I don't think so. Okay, we'll do that

372
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another episode. Babe day. Baby bidet. Yeah, it's just so difficult for me, I don't know.

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Baby bidet is interesting, I want to hear more about this someday. But man, I honestly,

374
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I think about that, I can't believe I don't remember this. Every time I wipe, like use

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I end up throwing it everywhere, right?

376
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Or like, I'm like whipping it around.

377
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Not like the diaper, the wipes.

378
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You know the pack of wipes.

379
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- The clean wipe as it comes out.

380
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- The clean wipe as it comes out.

381
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- That makes more sense.

382
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- You said every time I use the wipe,

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I then whip it around.

384
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(laughing)

385
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- Uh oh.

386
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- Perfect for your infection, Leo.

387
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- Yes, yes, yes.

388
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Fresh out of the package, it's hard to,

389
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yes, I know what you mean.

390
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- Yeah, yeah.

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And I'm just like, there should be at least,

392
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give me a paperweight or like,

393
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let me hot glue a three pound, you know,

394
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I don't know.

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They should just have,

396
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they should have 3M tape at the bottom

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of every pack of wipes that I can just,

398
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you know, stick to something.

399
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It's just so insanely annoying.

400
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- That's a great idea right there.

401
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- Okay.

402
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- Just to solve my immediate problem,

403
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but then I would love like,

404
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okay, I have a baby station, right?

405
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It'd be nice to not have to re-use,

406
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like they're all the same type of,

407
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like portable packaging for wipes.

408
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I would use this for like next to my baby station

409
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and I would just like refill rolls.

410
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And like, what's cool is I think this is another idea that I like the paper towel

411
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thing where you can turn any paper towel into a Clorox disinfectant wipe.

412
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Ah, yes.

413
00:16:45,660 --> 00:16:48,680
This could be, you know, you sell different rolls.

414
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You sell the same roll, but it could be baby wipe version.

415
00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:52,600
Sorry.

416
00:16:52,660 --> 00:16:56,400
I'm like full Spitball baby wipe version, uh, Clorox wipe version.

417
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Window cleaner versions.

418
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And fruit and food cleaner version.

419
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Yes.

420
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All the, yes.

421
00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:10,439
So you're putting a generic paper towel like product into this thing and choosing which pod to insert to make this one

422
00:17:11,020 --> 00:17:13,480
window wiping or this one is

423
00:17:14,300 --> 00:17:16,140
Disinfecting or whatever. Okay. Yep

424
00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:22,260
So cool, and then you are the one selling the the subscription services and stuff

425
00:17:22,380 --> 00:17:24,959
Aren't you locked into your proprietary pod format?

426
00:17:26,819 --> 00:17:29,540
Of course we're evil companies, right? That's right

427
00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:36,500
You're gonna DRM each roll like Keurig so that you can't use any third-party pods

428
00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,040
Unless everybody's got a Keurig, right?

429
00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:47,240
Does yeah, that's a good transition does somebody want to do their full-on pitch? I've got a pretty weird one

430
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You want me to go first? Oh, hell. Yeah. Okay

431
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This one's a little abstract and I picked it because I don't know how prevalent. All right, let me just get into it

432
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So Tonje have you heard of a corn maze? Do you know what a corn maze is?

433
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It's fine if the answer is no.

434
00:18:01,780 --> 00:18:01,980
No?

435
00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:05,100
It's so middle America.

436
00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:07,160
I think that's true.

437
00:18:08,700 --> 00:18:09,620
Thank you for asking.

438
00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:15,140
Yeah, I don't know if it's the language or this is something.

439
00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:15,640
Yeah.

440
00:18:15,820 --> 00:18:16,260
Perfect.

441
00:18:16,700 --> 00:18:19,760
Corn, like the crop, eat corn.

442
00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:24,440
And in the Midwest here, there's a lot of fields of corn.

443
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And so a fun autumn activity or fall activity is they cut paths through it to make a maze

444
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that you walk through.

445
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And that's something that I think is very Middle America only.

446
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I don't even know if the East and West Coast of the United States are very aware of this

447
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thing.

448
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Maybe they--I don't know how international this is.

449
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And that's what the pitch is centered on.

450
00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:49,840
A corn maze is a very fun and very regional thing that I think has broader appeal.

451
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Put that aside...

452
00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:52,460
Where is this going?

453
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The lazy river is a lot of fun.

454
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A water park where you have channels of water that flow from one end to another.

455
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Lazy river corn mazes. So you've got a section of a water park

456
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where water is originating on one end and

457
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Water is terminating, being brought back into skimmers and filters and stuff at multiple dead ends and the finish.

458
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I think that that would be a very fun addition to a water park.

459
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I was floating around with my son in our local water park, like, aquatic center,

460
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and we had the lazy river, and they all just go in a small circle, and it's kind of...

461
00:19:36,460 --> 00:19:40,500
I don't know. It's fine to float around, but I think that it could be zhuzhed up a bit.

462
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And then I put those two things together in my mind. Does this have legs?

463
00:19:44,140 --> 00:19:49,780
Is the lazy river corn maze something that has international appeal? Could you see that in Dubai?

464
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Probably only in Dubai. I need to clarify. Is there still corn involved in this? No. Okay

465
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*laughter*

466
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That's the part I was missing here. It's a lazy river maze

467
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but

468
00:20:01,580 --> 00:20:05,740
I think if you had walls that yeah, you can't see it's still a maze

469
00:20:05,740 --> 00:20:08,320
You can't see where you're trying to get to. Yeah, they could go up high

470
00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,760
What I was gonna say is is it could be sort of like a temporary

471
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my permanent thing that could even make it rearrangeable

472
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so that you have different maze configurations every month.

473
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Haunted house style, I don't know.

474
00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,820
- Like big Roman aqueduct slats come down or something

475
00:20:22,830 --> 00:20:24,460
and you can rearrange and go through.

476
00:20:24,780 --> 00:20:25,560
Okay, okay.

477
00:20:25,980 --> 00:20:26,820
- It's almost like a ride.

478
00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:27,540
- Yes.

479
00:20:27,900 --> 00:20:29,380
- Like a amusement park ride.

480
00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:30,360
That's kind of cool.

481
00:20:30,470 --> 00:20:32,440
And you can go through it multiple times

482
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and have different experiences every time.

483
00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,480
- Yes, it sounds super fun.

484
00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:41,340
I'm so obsessed with actual corn here.

485
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(laughing)

486
00:20:45,380 --> 00:20:49,780
- It's fun to be in a first person, a life-size maze

487
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where you are surrounded by the maze on all sides

488
00:20:52,900 --> 00:20:54,000
and you don't know where you are.

489
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And I don't know if that is a sensation that's given

490
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in any other context other than what we Midwesterners

491
00:21:00,540 --> 00:21:01,360
call the corn maze.

492
00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,580
It's neat to not like surrounded on all sides by walls.

493
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I guess I took the wrong turn.

494
00:21:05,940 --> 00:21:06,920
I don't know where I am.

495
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:07,740
This is kind of fun.

496
00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,440
But also a gentle flow of water pushing you toward

497
00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:16,600
from certain spots I think that could be neat. It sounds super fun and exciting

498
00:21:17,180 --> 00:21:24,240
and a bit claustrophobic maybe. I think people freak out a lot in those mazes.

499
00:21:25,340 --> 00:21:31,120
Yeah. That's true it's kind of hard to lifeguard. You would need somebody

500
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patrolling along the tops of the walls, barriers. It'd be a good workout.

501
00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,640
Speedrun. Oh, yeah, you have those super fast

502
00:21:43,260 --> 00:21:47,420
Lazy rivers the not lazy lazy rivers that the water is just rapid flowing

503
00:21:47,610 --> 00:21:51,980
Yeah, the rapid rivers put one in there and just going through your hedge maze. Oh hedge maze

504
00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,040
Maybe that's the international version on the edge maze

505
00:21:55,820 --> 00:21:58,860
Yeah, that's of a state where you have not well

506
00:21:58,960 --> 00:21:59,140
Yes

507
00:21:59,140 --> 00:22:06,040
And I guess like I'm thinking too with that like you could use rivers systems that exist today and turn them into

508
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:11,140
mazes right so you start at the top of a river and it's kind of like you know

509
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those like a haunted like you know walk through the street kind of thing but

510
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doesn't have to be haunted it's just like a themed river where you can change

511
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:26,020
it up and you put like I don't know pool noodles to direct people into different

512
00:22:26,120 --> 00:22:32,840
areas and you create a game out of it sure so you can collect let's say little

513
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:34,780
tokens along the river or something.

514
00:22:35,860 --> 00:22:40,860
There's a water park in Texas that's built along a river and there's several natural

515
00:22:41,100 --> 00:22:45,240
springs around it, freshwater springs, and all of the water slides are fed from those

516
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:49,180
freshwater springs and many of them end in the river at the bottom, which is cool.

517
00:22:49,780 --> 00:22:55,700
And it seems like you could like build, yeah, if you find the right landscape and spot,

518
00:22:55,700 --> 00:22:58,800
you could build this into the natural formation.

519
00:22:59,020 --> 00:22:59,200
Yeah.

520
00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:01,620
Dude, Whitewater Rapids but a maze.

521
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:02,300
Oh man.

522
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,540
I still just want to flood a cornfield now and see what happens.

523
00:23:07,420 --> 00:23:09,500
Tonje's like living in mountain land, right?

524
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,920
So she's like, "Uh, what about the cliffs?"

525
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:12,040
Right?

526
00:23:12,780 --> 00:23:14,080
So it's just like a lake.

527
00:23:15,700 --> 00:23:16,360
What way then?

528
00:23:17,340 --> 00:23:21,760
Just take a mountain trip and you'll have this whole experience.

529
00:23:23,500 --> 00:23:24,940
No, but I really like it.

530
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,300
And yeah, it sounds exciting.

531
00:23:27,300 --> 00:23:28,080
It's a big project.

532
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:29,240
Yeah.

533
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:38,760
do you pay to go in? How much time would you spend being in there? Often it's another team.

534
00:23:39,780 --> 00:23:42,980
Yeah, I have many questions around this.

535
00:23:44,500 --> 00:23:49,540
The waterpark model is often admission fee and then you just go around wherever you want to go.

536
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,340
So that is the traditional way. But yeah.

537
00:23:52,620 --> 00:23:55,380
Yeah. Do you bring your bathsuit or? Yeah.

538
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:56,120
I hope so.

539
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:56,300
Yeah.

540
00:23:56,740 --> 00:23:57,240
I hope so.

541
00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:58,880
You can swim to it.

542
00:23:59,540 --> 00:24:00,540
Yeah, exactly.

543
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,380
Yeah, that's very cool.

544
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:04,500
We're not included.

545
00:24:05,360 --> 00:24:06,040
Be like a water.

546
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:07,700
So it's like a water river maze

547
00:24:08,580 --> 00:24:10,560
where you can choose your own adventure

548
00:24:10,780 --> 00:24:11,960
on what you're doing.

549
00:24:12,180 --> 00:24:13,740
I don't like the tone you're adapting.

550
00:24:14,360 --> 00:24:15,760
This is pretty expensive.

551
00:24:15,980 --> 00:24:17,580
This is a pretty expensive endeavor,

552
00:24:18,060 --> 00:24:19,540
unless you use natural resources,

553
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:20,760
which I think that's why

554
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:22,860
you got to use like a river.

555
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:24,120
And like it'd be cool

556
00:24:24,120 --> 00:24:25,760
if you ended up in some random lake

557
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:27,700
and at that like little pond.

558
00:24:28,020 --> 00:24:29,760
OK, but like there's like

559
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:37,100
Creative events that like, you know, it's like activities and stuff and then you can go off the pond back in I'm thinking this is like a

560
00:24:37,380 --> 00:24:38,240
river community

561
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:45,460
Walking tour where like everybody participates and you get into this little small inland pond

562
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:50,720
You know throw darts. All right now go Bob some apples and then go back on the river

563
00:24:55,600 --> 00:25:02,420
This is almost a kit that you're selling that you attach into your existing. Yeah real life

564
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,460
video game. Yeah

565
00:25:06,360 --> 00:25:07,140
That'd be legit

566
00:25:11,940 --> 00:25:15,120
All right, Scott, what do you have for us this week? Okay, I fell down a

567
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,679
Internet rabbit hole last night of those really really fancy

568
00:25:20,380 --> 00:25:22,780
espresso machines making the most like beautiful

569
00:25:23,300 --> 00:25:29,740
Espresso shot you've ever seen where it'll just be like a video if they take like the highest end beans and grind them in a

570
00:25:30,210 --> 00:25:36,720
$5,000 burr grinder and put it into a ten thousand dollar espresso machine and they're tapping it like you look up the tap that they

571
00:25:36,860 --> 00:25:40,560
Use on that just a piece of metal and that alone is like 800 bucks or something

572
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:47,139
It's just over the top and ridiculous. I don't even like coffee that much but when it comes out of that machine

573
00:25:47,140 --> 00:25:50,520
It's like liquid gold. It's like the most beautiful

574
00:25:51,260 --> 00:25:54,980
Perfect-looking espresso shot you've ever seen and it would be a crime to mix this with anything

575
00:25:54,980 --> 00:25:58,680
It just looks amazing and I'm sitting there like I don't want to pay, you know

576
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:04,580
$20,000 for a shot of espresso, but I would pay a decent bit of money just to try that just once

577
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:09,060
I just want to know what that tastes like and I realize there's a lot of things

578
00:26:09,700 --> 00:26:15,700
High-end premium products that I just want to try like I don't need the full packaging experience of whatnot

579
00:26:15,980 --> 00:26:19,740
Like I could go in just like a spritz of really nice

580
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,860
cologne or perfume or like a super high-end whiskey or

581
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:30,380
Leo the audiophile like I want to put on the best pair of audio headphones ever and just listen to any song I want

582
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,920
For just give me one minute with that just to see what it's like

583
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:33,140
Yeah

584
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:38,940
And so I'm thinking like can we make I don't know if it's a vending machine or a brick-and-mortar store

585
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,279
or something where I can just go up and

586
00:26:41,740 --> 00:26:47,100
try that just once where it, the machine will go and it has all the super fancy coffee equipment

587
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:51,820
and spits it out and I just get a little sip or like the most expensive bottle of whiskey and I

588
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:56,420
just get like this much just to say that I've tried it on there. Taste of luxury. This is a

589
00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:05,179
very cool idea and I just have to say that we have recently got a restaurant in Oslo where you can

590
00:27:05,740 --> 00:27:09,240
try a little sip of the most expensive wines.

591
00:27:09,820 --> 00:27:10,880
So I love that.

592
00:27:11,260 --> 00:27:11,560
Exactly.

593
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:12,020
Oh, hey.

594
00:27:12,120 --> 00:27:13,020
That's your concept.

595
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:14,280
Interesting.

596
00:27:14,820 --> 00:27:16,800
It's got to be profitable, too, if I

597
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,500
have this super expensive wine and I'm dividing it by sips.

598
00:27:19,620 --> 00:27:20,760
Like, that's probably even worth more

599
00:27:20,860 --> 00:27:23,320
than what I would pay for the wine on there by a decent bit.

600
00:27:23,540 --> 00:27:23,820
Yeah.

601
00:27:24,300 --> 00:27:24,380
Yeah.

602
00:27:24,460 --> 00:27:25,280
Oh, I really like that.

603
00:27:25,410 --> 00:27:27,380
I always go back to the vending machine method, though,

604
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,940
which I don't know would work as well in this case.

605
00:27:30,980 --> 00:27:32,920
Tiny vials, hundreds of vials.

606
00:27:33,020 --> 00:27:34,540
Yeah, a little vial, honestly.

607
00:27:35,540 --> 00:27:41,420
The Sam's Clubs and Costco's of the world make money by selling in bulk and you want

608
00:27:41,420 --> 00:27:43,840
to make money by making the smallest possible.

609
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,080
Smallest amount possible.

610
00:27:45,780 --> 00:27:46,840
This is not cheaper.

611
00:27:47,020 --> 00:27:47,180
Yeah.

612
00:27:47,700 --> 00:27:53,680
Maybe it wouldn't work so well with the coffee because it needs to be fresh but with other

613
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:58,420
things, liquid, you can have this subscription model.

614
00:27:58,800 --> 00:27:59,460
Yeah.

615
00:27:59,580 --> 00:27:59,800
Yeah.

616
00:28:00,260 --> 00:28:01,720
Just give the smallest amount.

617
00:28:02,460 --> 00:28:08,240
those monthly boxes of candy from Japan or the outdoorsy box or whatever this

618
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,680
could be your like luxury box of the month where you get just a sliver of the

619
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,440
fanciest chocolate and just a little bit of that yeah like ten or so selections

620
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,220
that you're breaking up and mailing out that's cool

621
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:29,500
yeah I'm the gold burger and yes gold flake the single gold flake this is a

622
00:28:29,260 --> 00:28:35,480
a great method too, I think for people that would never maybe try or buy that

623
00:28:35,580 --> 00:28:37,940
bottle of wine to maybe even consider it.

624
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,640
Like now when they try it, they're like, oh, you know what?

625
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:46,760
Maybe for that one special occasion, I'll drop the $2.50 on a bottle of

626
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,480
wine or fancy whiskey, right?

627
00:28:49,980 --> 00:28:53,140
And I tried it once, now I'm hooked.

628
00:28:53,620 --> 00:28:55,700
And I think this is like a good model for like...

629
00:28:55,700 --> 00:28:57,940
It's where the Costco samplers at Leo's head gets you.

630
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:02,460
It could be that this is something that the purveyors of these expensive wines

631
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:04,380
actually want to partner with you on.

632
00:29:04,660 --> 00:29:05,700
Find new customers.

633
00:29:05,900 --> 00:29:06,460
Mm-hmm.

634
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,400
Grow their customer base.

635
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,280
Opposite will happen to another.

636
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:14,180
I think about it like, wow, this thousand dollar bottle of whiskey takes it

637
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,720
exactly like this $70 one over here.

638
00:29:17,460 --> 00:29:17,700
Okay.

639
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:18,720
That's true.

640
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:24,060
A lot of the luxury industry is based around the experience and the brand and the like.

641
00:29:24,100 --> 00:29:24,260
Nope.

642
00:29:24,260 --> 00:29:26,040
We're killing the whole experience on there.

643
00:29:26,060 --> 00:29:27,300
I want that little vial.

644
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:28,440
- You're at a vetting machine now.

645
00:29:29,340 --> 00:29:31,740
- I would honestly be even more curious at that point.

646
00:29:31,780 --> 00:29:33,480
He's like, okay, if this is what the best

647
00:29:33,500 --> 00:29:35,220
of the best tastes like and all I need to do

648
00:29:35,260 --> 00:29:38,080
is find what it most closely tastes like to me,

649
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:39,200
then I'll be happy.

650
00:29:39,740 --> 00:29:39,880
- Yeah.

651
00:29:40,540 --> 00:29:42,380
- What a great way to vet product.

652
00:29:42,540 --> 00:29:44,620
Oh, if this company doesn't think they're as good

653
00:29:44,660 --> 00:29:47,040
as the bottom shelf stuff, right?

654
00:29:47,620 --> 00:29:48,760
They won't partner with you.

655
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:50,220
Good, don't let 'em.

656
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,920
You know, and then that's kind of like a cool vetting system.

657
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:57,340
You become like the purveyor and the true connoisseur

658
00:29:57,340 --> 00:29:58,940
things like in that way.

659
00:29:59,100 --> 00:29:59,740
So I don't know.

660
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,500
You always hear those stories about how the blind wine

661
00:30:03,820 --> 00:30:07,260
tasting, the $40 bottle of wine always wins or whatever, right?

662
00:30:07,500 --> 00:30:08,440
It's kind of like that.

663
00:30:09,540 --> 00:30:13,140
I will say there's something to your like cool machines thing,

664
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:13,540
Scott.

665
00:30:14,900 --> 00:30:18,380
The internet has kind of taken away the ability to like--

666
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,540
like the retail brick and mortar experience,

667
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:24,380
where you can actually see the machine work, see, all right,

668
00:30:24,500 --> 00:30:28,160
this $800 coffee grinder, is it actually like,

669
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:29,780
can I look at the beans when it's like,

670
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:30,920
and feel it, there's something,

671
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,760
like why clothes, like buying clothes online

672
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:36,940
is still really difficult and maybe not as popular

673
00:30:37,020 --> 00:30:39,880
as still today, I feel like there's something lost there.

674
00:30:39,980 --> 00:30:41,860
So you could create, I don't know,

675
00:30:42,540 --> 00:30:45,060
a brick and mortar kind of experience

676
00:30:45,420 --> 00:30:48,040
or some version of that that shares,

677
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,880
like does a rotation, like an exhibit of,

678
00:30:51,060 --> 00:30:52,480
here's your coffee, espresso,

679
00:30:53,300 --> 00:30:54,980
We're going to do a coffee and espresso section.

680
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:55,820
Come on by.

681
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:57,400
What every month it changes.

682
00:30:57,590 --> 00:30:59,980
So now you can try out all these fancy coffee machines.

683
00:31:00,390 --> 00:31:03,680
So before you buy it online, come to our spot, right.

684
00:31:03,780 --> 00:31:04,520
And try those out.

685
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:09,920
You can do that for bread makers for, uh, I don't know all the William and

686
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,340
Sonoma, like fancy cooking stuff.

687
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:13,700
Like look at this pan.

688
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:14,320
It's $400.

689
00:31:14,690 --> 00:31:16,340
You want to know why me too?

690
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,440
So come on, come on.

691
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,680
Bye to our brick and mortar shop.

692
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:21,620
We don't know either.

693
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,440
Try to fry an egg on this thing, right?

694
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,400
And see if it's actually better than the one that,

695
00:31:25,580 --> 00:31:27,200
you know, you could get at the dollar store

696
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:28,180
across the street, right?

697
00:31:28,380 --> 00:31:31,900
So it'd be like a rotational trying thing.

698
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,420
And none of that product, hopefully, you have to pay for.

699
00:31:34,940 --> 00:31:37,940
It would just be sponsored by those organizations

700
00:31:38,220 --> 00:31:40,780
so that more people get their hands on the product

701
00:31:40,780 --> 00:31:42,420
before they maybe buy it online direct.

702
00:31:43,100 --> 00:31:44,780
You get a cut as a commission.

703
00:31:45,420 --> 00:31:46,880
I think that's how, I mean, that would be,

704
00:31:47,380 --> 00:31:48,480
I'd be all about that.

705
00:31:48,740 --> 00:31:50,000
It's kind of like an experience.

706
00:31:50,220 --> 00:31:53,020
Like every month I'm always going to that store

707
00:31:53,140 --> 00:31:57,760
to try out the monthly cool expensive products thing

708
00:31:57,820 --> 00:31:58,640
that they're always--

709
00:31:58,980 --> 00:32:02,240
If Consumer Reports had a retail location, it would be this.

710
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:03,180
Yes.

711
00:32:04,300 --> 00:32:06,020
Car seats, you know, vacuums.

712
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:06,680
Car seats.

713
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,000
It's car seat month down at the store.

714
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:10,000
You gotta see them.

715
00:32:11,660 --> 00:32:12,920
But like vacuums, you know what?

716
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:13,820
That'd be fun.

717
00:32:14,820 --> 00:32:16,420
It's like there's 500 of them online.

718
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,320
Like, all right, why do I like--

719
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:19,040
it's hard to tell.

720
00:32:19,100 --> 00:32:21,240
I don't know, I just bought a $200 vacuum and it's like,

721
00:32:21,420 --> 00:32:23,520
why would I buy the $400 one ever again?

722
00:32:23,740 --> 00:32:26,500
'Cause it was just, I wish I had tried all of them.

723
00:32:26,580 --> 00:32:28,100
But anyways, I love it, Scott.

724
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,160
- It's coming from a deeply personal place, yes.

725
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:31,140
- I'm getting it.

726
00:32:31,140 --> 00:32:31,480
- I get it.

727
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:33,200
I was like, all right, I hear you, Earl.

728
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:37,180
This all stems, I just wanna try that golden coffee.

729
00:32:37,420 --> 00:32:38,680
I just wanna try that shot.

730
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,420
I wanna put that whole setup in a glass box,

731
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:43,800
have a machine or a person make it for me,

732
00:32:43,900 --> 00:32:45,400
take one sip and it'll be good forever.

733
00:32:45,660 --> 00:32:48,160
So I wanna try my $400 vacuum once.

734
00:32:48,180 --> 00:32:50,580
You want to have the fancy espresso machine right next

735
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,940
to the dollar store espresso, right?

736
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,120
And have that experience.

737
00:32:56,500 --> 00:32:56,680
Yeah.

738
00:32:57,060 --> 00:32:57,780
Side by side.

739
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,780
Can you actually go and buy that espresso somewhere?

740
00:33:02,980 --> 00:33:05,740
Nope, not unless I want to pay an obscene amount of money

741
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:07,320
for all that fancy equipment.

742
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,580
Does that $800 tap actually make a difference of the taste?

743
00:33:11,100 --> 00:33:12,740
I really doubt it, but I want to find out.

744
00:33:12,820 --> 00:33:13,480
[LAUGHTER]

745
00:33:16,820 --> 00:33:17,140
Oh yeah.

746
00:33:18,780 --> 00:33:20,180
I want this one.

747
00:33:20,220 --> 00:33:22,100
I got a follow up, I think, to that, Scott.

748
00:33:22,260 --> 00:33:22,520
Oh yeah?

749
00:33:22,580 --> 00:33:22,880
Oh yeah.

750
00:33:23,260 --> 00:33:24,240
All right, Russell, what do you got?

751
00:33:24,540 --> 00:33:26,700
All right, so this is a little bit of a play

752
00:33:26,740 --> 00:33:28,420
on what you're going at, Scott.

753
00:33:28,570 --> 00:33:30,240
You know those Life Pro Tip videos?

754
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:31,880
Videos?

755
00:33:31,980 --> 00:33:32,120
No?

756
00:33:32,590 --> 00:33:33,360
I know the subreddit.

757
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:35,080
Short form videos.

758
00:33:35,300 --> 00:33:40,180
So I've recently come across a really cool video

759
00:33:40,540 --> 00:33:43,120
where it taught me how to fold laundry better.

760
00:33:43,650 --> 00:33:45,980
And then I watch another video, and it'll teach me

761
00:33:45,980 --> 00:33:48,180
how to clean my windows faster,

762
00:33:48,860 --> 00:33:51,640
how to do X, Y, Z faster and better, right?

763
00:33:51,860 --> 00:33:52,040
- Okay.

764
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,020
- The thing is, the only way for me to learn about

765
00:33:55,090 --> 00:33:57,320
how to do, let's say, my chores or anything

766
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:58,900
that I wanna do around the house better

767
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,220
is to hopefully have the algorithms

768
00:34:01,340 --> 00:34:03,240
hit me with this information, right?

769
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,760
What my idea is, kind of going back to,

770
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,500
is I'm also trying to get better at my coffee pour-overs,

771
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,200
and then what I end up doing is watching ad videos

772
00:34:13,300 --> 00:34:15,280
about here's my cool coffee for 10 minutes,

773
00:34:15,419 --> 00:34:19,659
and then I finally get to the part where they tell me how to make my pour over, and it's

774
00:34:19,720 --> 00:34:20,520
not even a great video.

775
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:22,639
So this would just be...

776
00:34:23,380 --> 00:34:26,600
It's like the recipe blogs, but yeah.

777
00:34:27,060 --> 00:34:29,800
Yes, but for things that I actually want to get better at.

778
00:34:29,899 --> 00:34:37,100
And so my idea is simply getting better at stuff videos or tying in chores or my daily

779
00:34:37,179 --> 00:34:42,379
activities to videos and get fed life pro tips to make me better at what I'm already

780
00:34:42,580 --> 00:34:42,639
doing.

781
00:34:43,820 --> 00:34:50,560
Whether that's getting better at espresso making, coffee making, vacuuming my house without like...

782
00:34:50,580 --> 00:34:54,179
I have been painting. I got a new... I recently moved and I've been painting

783
00:34:54,679 --> 00:34:57,560
every single room in this house and after like the third room I'm like,

784
00:34:57,730 --> 00:35:01,080
"I don't think I'm painting right." And I fell down a rabbit hole.

785
00:35:01,540 --> 00:35:05,600
Hours of just watching these professionals and how they're painting trim and things properly.

786
00:35:05,670 --> 00:35:10,380
I'm like, "What have I been doing with my life? I've been doing it wrong for years and just never

787
00:35:10,859 --> 00:35:13,200
I love this Russell. I would absolutely use that.

788
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,580
Now you're right, that applies to probably so many things

789
00:35:15,580 --> 00:35:19,080
in my life that a professional can just do this way better

790
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:20,480
'cause they've learned all these techniques.

791
00:35:21,150 --> 00:35:23,040
I wanna learn them for all the little mundane things

792
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:24,000
I just never realized.

793
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,000
- But it's so hard to sift through all those videos.

794
00:35:27,190 --> 00:35:28,700
You end up spending two and a half hours.

795
00:35:28,700 --> 00:35:29,200
- Oh, there was a lot.

796
00:35:29,300 --> 00:35:32,040
It took me hours to finally find that one guy

797
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:33,400
that's like, oh yeah, this makes sense.

798
00:35:33,460 --> 00:35:35,720
And he's not, you know, you're right.

799
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:37,940
It's like six hours worth of videos

800
00:35:37,940 --> 00:35:41,200
and I just needed this one 15 to 30 second part of it.

801
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:42,860
- And what's gonna happen, Scott,

802
00:35:42,870 --> 00:35:44,780
is I'm gonna ask you five months from now,

803
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:46,160
hey, can you send me those videos?

804
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,240
And you're gonna spend 30 to 45 minutes

805
00:35:48,260 --> 00:35:49,640
trying to find those two minute clips.

806
00:35:49,660 --> 00:35:51,200
- Exactly, I had no idea which one it was

807
00:35:51,220 --> 00:35:51,880
that it ended up being.

808
00:35:52,300 --> 00:35:54,320
- But you remember it in your mind, right?

809
00:35:54,500 --> 00:35:57,080
It's like, yeah, it'd be curating all that.

810
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,300
- Yeah, but that is genius if you can actually

811
00:36:00,380 --> 00:36:04,320
find that way to target exactly what you need

812
00:36:04,340 --> 00:36:05,160
when you need it.

813
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,300
- Life bro tips videos, but good.

814
00:36:07,500 --> 00:36:15,520
Yeah. So the recipes pages that start with paragraphs and paragraphs of filler and my

815
00:36:15,630 --> 00:36:20,220
grandma loved this recipes and all that stuff and then get to the recipe were born out of

816
00:36:20,420 --> 00:36:24,600
SEO, right? The people were trying to get to the top of search results and gaming the

817
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:29,980
algorithms. What is the incentive for these people who are currently making the videos

818
00:36:30,710 --> 00:36:35,980
to make them so bad? Why is it so bad today? I don't understand what market force is driving

819
00:36:35,980 --> 00:36:39,780
these people to make 90-minute bad videos about painting to give you the

820
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:46,260
two-minute tip? That's a great question. Is it that YouTube optimizes for length

821
00:36:46,540 --> 00:36:50,680
of video or something or what is it? Why are they... this is a world that I don't

822
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,640
know very well the whole Life Tips video and I don't understand why they're bad

823
00:36:53,700 --> 00:37:00,740
now. I love sailing and there is no good sailing tutorials out there on it. It's

824
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:05,460
always just ran... you have two options. You either have old guys who are

825
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:10,200
very good sailors but have no idea how to use technology or you have people

826
00:37:10,300 --> 00:37:13,480
that don't know what they're talking about and they'll make like a four-hour

827
00:37:13,580 --> 00:37:16,040
video like what you're saying where they're explaining all these random

828
00:37:16,140 --> 00:37:18,920
things that you just don't care about or aren't applicable to you and there's no

829
00:37:19,100 --> 00:37:23,260
in-between on there so I don't know if that is an algorithm thing or if it's

830
00:37:23,300 --> 00:37:28,320
just just the information is just hidden out there somewhere. Experts in their

831
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:32,700
field and good communicators don't overlap. They never talk to each other.

832
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,780
Somebody never asked that you got to pick one.

833
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:37,320
I don't--

834
00:37:38,460 --> 00:37:41,440
I think we'd have to go through all these,

835
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,400
like create, literally create all the content, maybe.

836
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:46,320
Simplify the content.

837
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,860
Because I guess that hour long video, the start of the video

838
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,240
might be helpful for you at the beginning of your project.

839
00:37:52,540 --> 00:37:54,560
And in the middle, it may not be--

840
00:37:54,700 --> 00:37:56,620
half the stuff isn't relevant until it's relevant.

841
00:37:56,820 --> 00:38:01,020
If you knew half of it already, 30 minutes of the hour

842
00:38:01,140 --> 00:38:01,660
is a waste.

843
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,860
This is like, like masterclass, masterclass shorts.

844
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:06,700
It's an offshoot.

845
00:38:06,980 --> 00:38:08,820
- Masterclass shorts, exactly.

846
00:38:09,700 --> 00:38:12,040
Where it's clean cut and beautiful and makes sense,

847
00:38:12,140 --> 00:38:12,940
but not a villain.

848
00:38:12,940 --> 00:38:14,740
- It's not me, a Michelin star chef.

849
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:16,520
It's me, a guy who paints houses.

850
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:18,760
And I'm gonna show you what you're doing wrong.

851
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:22,480
- Yeah, micro learning.

852
00:38:23,100 --> 00:38:23,700
- Micro learning.

853
00:38:23,700 --> 00:38:24,520
- Micro, yes.

854
00:38:25,380 --> 00:38:27,340
For the public.

855
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,720
Yeah, just short, just one team.

856
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:31,980
Two minutes.

857
00:38:33,220 --> 00:38:33,400
Yeah.

858
00:38:33,740 --> 00:38:33,940
Yeah.

859
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:34,600
Yeah.

860
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:35,640
Is that a thing?

861
00:38:35,750 --> 00:38:36,700
That sounds like a thing.

862
00:38:36,980 --> 00:38:40,880
TED Talk, Lightning Talk, but only about actual practical

863
00:38:41,020 --> 00:38:41,280
things.

864
00:38:42,240 --> 00:38:44,280
Lightning Talks are a presentation format

865
00:38:44,500 --> 00:38:45,420
where you have five minutes.

866
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,520
And it's kind of a rapid fire style, right?

867
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:51,980
So that, but TED Talks about practical life things.

868
00:38:52,010 --> 00:38:52,560
I like that.

869
00:38:53,020 --> 00:38:55,220
Have you guys ever seen a retail worker

870
00:38:55,500 --> 00:38:57,780
who works at Target or Kohl's or--

871
00:38:57,820 --> 00:38:58,360
Folding shirts.

872
00:38:58,760 --> 00:38:59,520
Folding clothes?

873
00:38:59,580 --> 00:38:59,920
Yes.

874
00:39:00,060 --> 00:39:02,880
- They have perfected the craft, right?

875
00:39:03,720 --> 00:39:05,920
And they do it nonstop and it's perfect.

876
00:39:06,220 --> 00:39:07,760
And then here I am folding my laundry

877
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,040
and the sleeves are popping off.

878
00:39:10,060 --> 00:39:11,960
And I'm like, I've been doing this for how long

879
00:39:12,020 --> 00:39:13,480
and I'm a grown ass man.

880
00:39:13,740 --> 00:39:15,000
Like I should know how to do this.

881
00:39:15,500 --> 00:39:18,960
And yet I still am like in awe of how these people

882
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:20,900
are just like talking to their friends

883
00:39:20,940 --> 00:39:22,380
and looking at their phone while folding a shirt,

884
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,260
like hundreds of shirts, you know?

885
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:27,360
But they're masters of their craft.

886
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:28,000
And it's like, why?

887
00:39:28,540 --> 00:39:31,880
But that thing is applied in so many situations.

888
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:38,440
If I could watch a professional IKEA person for maybe 30 minutes do 30 different pieces

889
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:42,660
of furniture, and you realize, "Oh, they bought that drill," or like, I don't know.

890
00:39:42,790 --> 00:39:43,780
I just want to know the tips.

891
00:39:43,910 --> 00:39:45,060
I want to get faster.

892
00:39:44,860 --> 00:39:57,360
>> What if it was, I guess, maybe it exists, but an AI that actually could figure out which

893
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:03,840
voice is the best for this exact problem.

894
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:13,580
So maybe they could even like cut out that exact part from existing shows and videos.

895
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:13,980
- Mm-hmm.

896
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:15,360
- Yeah.

897
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:17,180
- That'd actually be awesome.

898
00:40:17,580 --> 00:40:17,740
- Yeah.

899
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:19,200
- You ever search for like,

900
00:40:19,220 --> 00:40:21,900
how to replace spark plug on specific model of car

901
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,220
and then their search results from Google has,

902
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,980
you need to go to minute seven of this YouTube video.

903
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,800
It'll sometimes highlight the exact moment

904
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:31,620
in the video that you are asking about.

905
00:40:32,220 --> 00:40:33,420
That's what we want to build,

906
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,240
but for anything more generic stuff.

907
00:40:36,660 --> 00:40:38,880
- I wanna watch five of those three minute clips.

908
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:40,160
That's really what it is.

909
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,200
I think it's what, I can't trust one person,

910
00:40:43,300 --> 00:40:44,520
so I gotta watch five of them.

911
00:40:44,620 --> 00:40:45,040
- Exactly.

912
00:40:45,260 --> 00:40:47,360
- And then I finally get, okay, these three people,

913
00:40:47,580 --> 00:40:49,000
there's some sense of that, right?

914
00:40:49,380 --> 00:40:51,140
- Watch 10 YouTube videos and take the average.

915
00:40:52,079 --> 00:40:52,640
- That's it.

916
00:40:52,900 --> 00:40:53,880
That's what happens.

917
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:54,620
- It's true, yeah.

918
00:40:55,290 --> 00:40:56,600
I think we've all had that experience, yeah.

919
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:58,100
- It's like talking to your five friends

920
00:40:58,200 --> 00:40:59,580
about something that you wanna do,

921
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:02,320
and then certain ones you trust more than others,

922
00:41:02,570 --> 00:41:03,160
and then you're like,

923
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,520
but I really like that crazy person's idea,

924
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,840
so I'm gonna mix that with my smart friend's idea, right?

925
00:41:08,260 --> 00:41:08,400
- Right.

926
00:41:12,940 --> 00:41:14,960
All right, Tonje, what do you got for us?

927
00:41:15,540 --> 00:41:16,640
Oh, yes.

928
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:18,080
What I got.

929
00:41:19,720 --> 00:41:19,980
Okay.

930
00:41:21,100 --> 00:41:24,660
So this is not my idea.

931
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:32,280
It's from a community that I recently got to know very well.

932
00:41:33,660 --> 00:41:39,720
You probably know them better because this is a bigger thing in the United States than

933
00:41:39,720 --> 00:41:52,860
in Norway, definitely by far. So the idea is electronic cosplay wings that can fold and unfold

934
00:41:53,480 --> 00:42:04,620
and they can flap at the same time. And it's not like you buy these exact fairy wings or anything.

935
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:09,240
Det er bare systemet som kan gjøre disse tingene.

936
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,140
Du kan kjappe dem som du vil.

937
00:42:13,780 --> 00:42:17,200
Du kan ha ulike fabriker.

938
00:42:17,900 --> 00:42:24,920
Du kan være en djævel, en engel eller en børrefløy.

939
00:42:27,500 --> 00:42:31,320
Det er noe som er på markedet,

940
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:39,580
but they are quite huge. They're made out of steel and when cosplayers go to their cons,

941
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:50,240
then they need something easy and light to bring with them. So yeah, that's the one I wanted to bring here.

942
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,320
Cosplay is becoming a recurring theme on our show. This is fun.

943
00:42:53,460 --> 00:42:53,580
Yeah.

944
00:42:54,240 --> 00:42:55,780
Okay. Wings.

945
00:42:55,800 --> 00:43:00,700
I really like the idea of like, it's just like a skeleton of a wing on there and you can put in,

946
00:43:00,700 --> 00:43:02,800
Like if you were to get this product to be like, okay

947
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:08,440
Your wing needs to be made of like four parts per wing on here. Here's the template for each part

948
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,180
It has whatever you make has to fit into this size

949
00:43:11,700 --> 00:43:15,620
And you cut whatever fabric or things on there to start it smaller smaller smaller

950
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:19,500
And then they'll all be able to fold up into each other because they all fit inside that template

951
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:22,720
Exactly

952
00:43:24,500 --> 00:43:28,400
Yeah, and this is huge. So I worked in this

953
00:43:29,980 --> 00:43:36,800
cosplay community or company for a little while.

954
00:43:37,140 --> 00:43:41,320
And yeah, this is something that everyone wants.

955
00:43:42,240 --> 00:43:43,260
Is that right? OK.

956
00:43:43,720 --> 00:43:44,960
Yes. Fascinating.

957
00:43:45,020 --> 00:43:48,540
So why hasn't it been made already?

958
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:50,760
Yeah. Yeah. Interesting.

959
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,480
So honestly, this would be really cool for like even mascots.

960
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:56,180
You know what I mean?

961
00:43:56,180 --> 00:44:01,040
I mean, there's a ton of like college, high school mascots that probably would love a

962
00:44:01,130 --> 00:44:06,200
set of wings to throw on there like these hornets, the, you know, sure, whatever the

963
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,860
bats are, what do we have here?

964
00:44:09,540 --> 00:44:13,520
There's all these different animals that we use as mascots that could totally, there's

965
00:44:13,540 --> 00:44:15,800
a huge market out even outside of cosplay too, right?

966
00:44:16,380 --> 00:44:20,240
So yes, in theater shows and TV shows.

967
00:44:21,780 --> 00:44:26,340
And for Halloween, imagine you just enter the Halloween party

968
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,620
and you just flap your wings.

969
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:30,960
[LAUGHTER]

970
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:32,960
That'd be so cool.

971
00:44:33,340 --> 00:44:34,100
They're flappable.

972
00:44:34,230 --> 00:44:35,800
So how do you control it?

973
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,840
Are you just like moving your shoulders to flap it?

974
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:39,600
How does that work?

975
00:44:39,720 --> 00:44:41,780
No, because that already exists.

976
00:44:41,940 --> 00:44:44,760
So this needs to be connected to Arduino.

977
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:45,860
Of course.

978
00:44:45,940 --> 00:44:46,320
Of course.

979
00:44:46,620 --> 00:44:47,100
It's got to be smart.

980
00:44:47,500 --> 00:44:47,820
Bluetooth.

981
00:44:48,180 --> 00:44:48,520
Yes.

982
00:44:48,930 --> 00:44:50,020
I was thinking right in the brain.

983
00:44:51,420 --> 00:45:00,720
You can steer the speed and maybe they move after your walking move.

984
00:45:01,460 --> 00:45:04,000
But yeah, it needs to be electronical.

985
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:12,280
And they have, yeah, so a butterfly probably also move very different than what a devil

986
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:15,300
or an angel moves.

987
00:45:15,720 --> 00:45:15,960
Yeah.

988
00:45:16,240 --> 00:45:16,400
Yeah.

989
00:45:16,590 --> 00:45:20,180
Some preset, you know, movements, right?

990
00:45:20,260 --> 00:45:20,460
Yes.

991
00:45:20,700 --> 00:45:22,880
- Three settings, four or six settings,

992
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:24,380
and you move between the two.

993
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:26,340
And you're saying most of them are just made of,

994
00:45:26,380 --> 00:45:28,780
they're super heavy, made of steel, it sounds like.

995
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:32,220
There could be a backpack pod version,

996
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,540
and you have different, like tent poles.

997
00:45:34,660 --> 00:45:36,580
I think of, you know the tent camping poles?

998
00:45:37,240 --> 00:45:39,520
They're really sturdy, but also really flexible

999
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:41,020
at the same time, and really light.

1000
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:45,220
I wonder if you could, like, your base is like steel,

1001
00:45:45,420 --> 00:45:48,540
and then you attach different tent pole types of things

1002
00:45:48,700 --> 00:45:49,980
to make your different wings.

1003
00:45:50,740 --> 00:45:51,940
- Is that what they're made out of?

1004
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:52,300
- Yeah.

1005
00:45:52,900 --> 00:45:53,220
- Okay.

1006
00:45:53,780 --> 00:45:54,500
- Yeah, that would be...

1007
00:45:54,500 --> 00:45:55,240
- That would work really well.

1008
00:45:55,700 --> 00:45:56,500
- Yeah, I think so.

1009
00:45:56,940 --> 00:45:59,160
Yeah, 'cause this is, I think it's proper heavy.

1010
00:45:59,260 --> 00:46:02,200
I've never like actually touched one, but...

1011
00:46:03,180 --> 00:46:03,280
(laughs)

1012
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:07,540
Yeah, so in this company called Koskir,

1013
00:46:07,780 --> 00:46:09,980
which I was working in for a tiny bit,

1014
00:46:12,500 --> 00:46:16,220
they made this to entail some moving ears.

1015
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:17,240
(laughs)

1016
00:46:17,740 --> 00:46:18,280
- Oh, wow.

1017
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:27,340
Yes, so that kind of technology already exists. So just need someone who can actually figure out

1018
00:46:28,620 --> 00:46:34,340
how to make the wing. Yeah, how to make the wing technology.

1019
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:39,240
Missing piece. It sounds like they got ears tail like we just got to get the wings, right?

1020
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:41,680
Yes. Only thing missing.

1021
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:47,160
My next question was going to be you sort of glossed over I've been working a little bit

1022
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:50,680
here and there with the cosplay community. I would love to know more about that. Yeah,

1023
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:57,220
yeah. How did you so is this you worked with the company? Or you also have been like hearing from

1024
00:46:57,420 --> 00:47:06,580
customers to? Yes. So yeah, I was working there for just a few months. And then in somebody make

1025
00:47:06,660 --> 00:47:14,640
it we we have produced a couple of products already. So yeah, we just started up and it's

1026
00:47:15,720 --> 00:47:24,300
brand new and the platform is not perfect. So if you visit it, just be aware it's still in beta.

1027
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:34,020
But the first products we have produced is a Star Trek prop and a Star Wars prop. So a

1028
00:47:34,660 --> 00:47:45,080
Pickard phaser and a blaster rifle. Yeah. So I think this kind of buying props and gears

1029
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:50,480
is happening a lot within this community and of course, yeah, fans in general.

1030
00:47:52,180 --> 00:47:59,520
So yeah, and those products are in many ways simple to make as well.

1031
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:08,100
So you can create a print a lot of them, or you can sue of course your costumes.

1032
00:48:08,980 --> 00:48:10,760
Yeah, sorry, I think I'm talking.

1033
00:48:11,060 --> 00:48:11,860
Oh, that's interesting.

1034
00:48:12,660 --> 00:48:14,060
Wings, ears, tails.

1035
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,380
I assume that there's other things, too,

1036
00:48:16,500 --> 00:48:18,360
that this business could get into, right?

1037
00:48:18,620 --> 00:48:20,080
Extra arms or something.

1038
00:48:21,100 --> 00:48:24,960
Yeah, so we have actually got a pilot customer now

1039
00:48:25,060 --> 00:48:27,480
that is a sci-fi TV series.

1040
00:48:28,460 --> 00:48:30,820
So it's set in 2015.

1041
00:48:32,100 --> 00:48:36,100
For this show, you have to reimagine the whole world,

1042
00:48:36,240 --> 00:48:38,400
because, of course, 15 years, that's

1043
00:48:38,340 --> 00:48:46,320
not a very long time in the future, but at the same time, we know how fast the development

1044
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:52,800
of the, of the world is going and the technology and how does the world look 15 years from

1045
00:48:52,900 --> 00:48:53,080
now.

1046
00:48:53,540 --> 00:48:54,160
Oh, I like that.

1047
00:48:54,180 --> 00:49:04,460
So, so here is like a good example and we're very excited to see if we can create like

1048
00:49:04,460 --> 00:49:12,980
props and costumes and gear from somebody make it for this TV show and then see if other

1049
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:18,100
fans after the show has been released will copy it.

1050
00:49:19,250 --> 00:49:24,740
And then we already have the design and we can license it out to those who want to create

1051
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,820
the same props and gears and costumes.

1052
00:49:28,230 --> 00:49:32,820
It's like crowd building, like crowdfunding, but building instead of money.

1053
00:49:33,380 --> 00:49:33,600
Yes.

1054
00:49:34,340 --> 00:49:36,620
With the proper licensing. Yeah

1055
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:39,880
You could probably build a whole

1056
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:45,880
Wiki peer-to-peer like instruction database to around this right? So like I

1057
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,080
Took this kit and turned it into monarch butterfly wings

1058
00:49:50,260 --> 00:49:56,580
But here's what you should do and here's some stuff to avoid and here's the best way that I found to attach the various fabrics

1059
00:49:56,580 --> 00:50:02,480
To the mount points and stuff kind of make that community feel because that's so important in the cosplay world, right?

1060
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:11,780
to have the sharing of ideas. Exactly. And yeah, collaborate about how it's gonna look and how

1061
00:50:11,900 --> 00:50:18,700
it's gonna work. Yeah, you need a lot of input in this more complicated processes. But that's

1062
00:50:19,460 --> 00:50:27,600
very cool. Yeah. So cool. Have you cosplayed anything? Never. Have you? Like, is that like,

1063
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:31,660
I feel like this is more and more people I know have cosplayed before.

1064
00:50:32,390 --> 00:50:32,760
Have you?

1065
00:50:33,300 --> 00:50:33,580
Oh me?

1066
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:34,200
I have not.

1067
00:50:37,579 --> 00:50:43,220
So have you ever went to a Halloween party and got dressed up?

1068
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:43,740
Yeah.

1069
00:50:44,190 --> 00:50:52,540
And have you ever got dressed up like someone like an icon like a real character or a fake

1070
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:54,560
character imaginary character?

1071
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:55,080
That's true.

1072
00:50:55,460 --> 00:50:56,940
I guess I have cosplayed before.

1073
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:57,840
Yeah

1074
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:01,060
Yeah, but my out my

1075
00:51:01,900 --> 00:51:10,020
My wardrobe and costume is usually based around something from Goodwill or Salvation Army or secondhand clothes stores and not

1076
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:13,360
Very inventive so this would definitely be an easier way to level up

1077
00:51:15,660 --> 00:51:16,480
Yeah with the wings

1078
00:51:18,420 --> 00:51:22,599
Cosplay is universal. Holy cow. I just realized if people celebrate Halloween

1079
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:27,680
I mean like why not? Yeah listener if you're sitting there judging how nerdy cosplay is

1080
00:51:28,100 --> 00:51:30,620
What are you gonna be for Halloween this year for the party?

1081
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:43,120
Yeah, it's fun and everyone loves or maybe not everyone but a lot of people love to get dressed up

1082
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:49,660
So it's everyone. I think it's relevant for everyone and then I think cosplay community. Of course, they take it

1083
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:52,580
some levels up

1084
00:51:52,580 --> 00:52:00,600
Well, dear listener, if you are listening to us while walking through the halls of that convention hall with us in your ear, thank you very much for listening.

1085
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:05,620
And we hope you enjoyed yourself. And oh my gosh, thank you so much, Tonje, for joining us. This was so fun.

1086
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,600
Thank you so much. It was really fun to make you.

1087
00:52:09,199 --> 00:52:16,540
So what if listeners were more interested in your website, where do they go? What do they need to know? If they have their own idea, what do they need?

1088
00:52:16,660 --> 00:52:27,540
Yes. So go to somebodymakeit.com and try putting out your idea or sign up as a maker and then

1089
00:52:27,540 --> 00:52:34,020
you need to go through this verified process to show that you can actually make things.

1090
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:39,720
But yeah, it's early days, but try it out and sign up.

1091
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:44,540
Listeners, you're probably either somebody who has a lot of ideas but doesn't know how to make

1092
00:52:44,340 --> 00:52:48,500
stuff or you're somebody who's a maker who wants that killer idea to get out into the marketplace

1093
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:52,080
or maybe you're both but either way this sounds like an awesome matchmaking service.

1094
00:52:52,980 --> 00:52:59,300
So take your idea go to somebodymakeit.com or email it to us also at podcast@spitball.show.

1095
00:52:59,340 --> 00:53:04,200
We would love to hear from you. Our website is spitball.show. There you can find links to our

1096
00:53:04,380 --> 00:53:09,280
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1097
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:13,579
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1098
00:53:13,380 --> 00:53:19,140
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1099
00:53:19,260 --> 00:53:24,140
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1100
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1104
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