1 00:00:04,500 --> 00:00:06,780 I'm Scott, I'm Russell, and I'm Leo. 2 00:00:07,020 --> 00:00:08,040 This is Spitball. 3 00:00:16,540 --> 00:00:19,800 Welcome to Spitball, where three bandwidth buccaneers and a guest 4 00:00:19,940 --> 00:00:22,380 empty our heads of startup and tech product ideas that we have 5 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:24,540 stuck up in there so you can all have them for free. 6 00:00:25,060 --> 00:00:26,280 Anything that we say is yours to keep. 7 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,440 And this week, Scott, I believe you brought our guest. 8 00:00:29,700 --> 00:00:36,940 I did. I am so excited to finally have on Constantine Fenerakis. We'll call him Costa. 9 00:00:37,300 --> 00:00:37,480 Yeah. 10 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:43,580 Costa is a senior software engineer, expert coder, and is deep in the embedded world. 11 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:48,820 Born and raised in Greece, he's worked on everything from medical, aerospace, agricultural. 12 00:00:49,190 --> 00:00:52,080 Pretty much if there's code in it, Costa's probably touched it at some point. 13 00:00:52,260 --> 00:00:52,520 Dang. 14 00:00:52,580 --> 00:00:54,520 So yeah, very excited to have you. Welcome, Costa. 15 00:00:54,940 --> 00:00:55,240 Welcome. 16 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:57,440 Thank you, guys. Good to be here. 17 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:03,620 Oh, this is gonna be so fun. And this week in order to get us going, it's been a minute since we've had a celebrity guest pitch, so 18 00:01:04,379 --> 00:01:06,260 May I turn your attention to the screens? 19 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:12,980 We are gonna be having on Brian Baumgartner, who played famously Kevin from The Office, as well as many other parts over the years. 20 00:01:14,060 --> 00:01:18,540 He's got a short pitch for us. Brace yourselves. This is quite the something. You ready? Here we go. 21 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:24,759 What's up, Spitball? Oh, do I have an idea for you. A footbath 22 00:01:25,300 --> 00:01:28,820 That's also a gaming remote controller 23 00:01:35,539 --> 00:01:37,819 So gentlemen I 24 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:44,260 Bring before you today. How could you integrate a footbath as a video game controller? 25 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,400 I'm still reeling. I just got blindsided by Kevin from the office 26 00:01:50,020 --> 00:01:50,520 Kevin 27 00:01:54,479 --> 00:01:55,280 so 28 00:01:55,280 --> 00:02:01,780 Where you're like running in place. Those don't cover swimming games, do they? It does seem like something is there, right? 29 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,060 There we go. I thought I need more of swimming games. 30 00:02:06,060 --> 00:02:11,940 I don't know you're in the like Mario 64 level the dire dire dock and boom you jump in the water 31 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:13,220 And you gotta get out your foot bath 32 00:02:15,640 --> 00:02:25,260 One level in the whole game that requires a $200 foot bath to get through 33 00:02:25,260 --> 00:02:25,560 - Oh, okay. 34 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:25,660 - Yep. 35 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:26,880 - Non-stop, all the time. 36 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:27,380 - There it is. 37 00:02:28,519 --> 00:02:28,840 (laughing) 38 00:02:29,020 --> 00:02:30,400 - But my toe joints hurt. 39 00:02:30,660 --> 00:02:32,200 Oh, well I got a product for you. 40 00:02:32,260 --> 00:02:32,800 - Oh. 41 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,800 - You know, low impact, high gaming efficiency. 42 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:38,620 - You can put some Epsom salts. 43 00:02:39,260 --> 00:02:39,340 Perfect. 44 00:02:39,719 --> 00:02:40,040 (laughing) 45 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:41,220 - Smells so good. 46 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:43,000 Scott, you're the hardware guy. 47 00:02:43,020 --> 00:02:45,260 How do you do like capacitive, 48 00:02:46,220 --> 00:02:47,540 electro, how do you like figure out 49 00:02:47,920 --> 00:02:48,820 what an input is? - While underwater. 50 00:02:48,820 --> 00:02:49,640 - Yeah, while underwater. 51 00:02:49,780 --> 00:02:50,980 That seems like an engineering challenge. 52 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:52,980 - It's just gotta be pressure, right? 53 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,220 Is that the only thing we can read on the foot? 54 00:02:55,380 --> 00:02:56,460 -So like each toe? 55 00:02:56,940 --> 00:02:58,160 -I would put just cameras. 56 00:02:58,800 --> 00:02:59,260 -Oh, camera. 57 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,080 -Underwater cameras on your toesies. 58 00:03:02,700 --> 00:03:04,940 Oh, and then you can sell that on OnlyFans. 59 00:03:07,540 --> 00:03:08,340 -I'd subscribe. 60 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:09,300 I'd subscribe. 61 00:03:11,180 --> 00:03:11,580 FootbathGamer. 62 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,660 Yes, that's Twitch for free, dude. 63 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:16,200 -That username I've been taking already. 64 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:20,840 -It's just going to be Kevin, you'll see. 65 00:03:21,460 --> 00:03:21,940 [laughter] 66 00:03:23,380 --> 00:03:26,160 Camera, visual, you got button pressing. 67 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:28,660 Magnets. Magnets on each toe. 68 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:30,880 Okay? Through the water. 69 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,340 You can play the piano game, you know. 70 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:39,800 I know that some Twitch streamers have like foot pedals where they use that to switch scenes or start and stop going live or whatever 71 00:03:40,020 --> 00:03:43,240 so that they can have both hands on whatever game they're doing or whatever. 72 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,800 It does seem like there's something there, but way more exotic. 73 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:47,620 [laughter] 74 00:03:48,060 --> 00:03:50,440 Just put those on the bottom of a footbath, of course. 75 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,380 That is ultimate work from home luxury home office. 76 00:03:53,660 --> 00:03:58,640 - Dude, rowing machine, rowing the game with real water. 77 00:03:58,900 --> 00:04:00,720 - Peloton, but rowing. 78 00:04:01,620 --> 00:04:02,180 (laughing) 79 00:04:03,340 --> 00:04:04,460 - Hydro dynamic. 80 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:05,720 (laughing) 81 00:04:06,500 --> 00:04:07,700 - I'm going down the Nile. 82 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:08,980 I'm in the Amazon. 83 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:09,940 Yeah, man. 84 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,560 - Ooh, this water is all of a sudden warmer, right? 85 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,860 Oh, now we're in the Arctic, cold water. 86 00:04:16,380 --> 00:04:17,320 Oh, temperature. 87 00:04:17,540 --> 00:04:18,880 - That's perfect. 88 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:22,320 I 89 00:04:22,420 --> 00:04:28,060 Can't believe but I'm honestly really liking the idea of a swimming game now where I'm just like splashing my feet under the table 90 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:32,720 And just picking up the splashes as they're going. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. You have to wear flippers 91 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,520 It's measuring how much like output you have in order to give you speed 92 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:41,340 So the harder you cake while sitting on the couch the faster you go 93 00:04:42,660 --> 00:04:46,840 It's like those infinity pool things that you like swim against the home spa thing with the big jet 94 00:04:46,840 --> 00:04:51,820 You know where you've got a small hot tub, but you're just staying in place fighting the current you got that 95 00:04:51,940 --> 00:04:55,660 Oh, yeah, just for your feet. I love it dude actually like pro swimmers 96 00:04:55,880 --> 00:05:01,140 That's probably like a very important. You know your kicks are you got to keep your toes pointed 97 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:07,320 Yeah, and it'll like coach you on technique. They're using too much ankle flip and not enough leg 98 00:05:08,220 --> 00:05:09,760 Straightening I don't know what I'm talking about 99 00:05:16,380 --> 00:05:16,820 Hey 100 00:05:19,620 --> 00:05:25,120 Has somebody sponsored them yet, that's all that matters. Have they got busted for weed yet? 101 00:05:25,340 --> 00:05:32,560 Yeah, that's all I know about Michael Phelps. Amazing swimmer, likes weed. 102 00:05:34,540 --> 00:05:37,900 People made a big deal about it for some reason. I think we've lost the plot a little bit. 103 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:39,900 Thanks Kevin! 104 00:05:41,340 --> 00:05:43,380 It's a bong bath, foot bath. 105 00:05:43,620 --> 00:05:45,080 We just get all the way there. 106 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:49,480 Leo, what do you got this week? 107 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:57,620 Alright, so there's all kinds of scripts and discord servers and stuff all dedicated to ticket scalping, right? 108 00:05:58,460 --> 00:06:00,320 Ticketmaster is a cesspool. 109 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:07,100 I went to go buy some tickets for lawn general entry, general admission tickets a year or two ago. 110 00:06:07,100 --> 00:06:09,140 I was there the second they went up. 111 00:06:09,700 --> 00:06:11,080 Lawn tickets still available, $50. 112 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:12,080 Clicked buy. 113 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:13,720 Went through the checkout process. 114 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:15,140 Clicked complete purchase. 115 00:06:15,750 --> 00:06:17,000 Sorry, these are no longer available. 116 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:17,980 Refresh the page. 117 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:19,740 Entire show is sold out. 118 00:06:19,820 --> 00:06:21,360 It was about three minutes after doors opened. 119 00:06:21,900 --> 00:06:22,800 Refresh the page again. 120 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,380 Immediately, three, four, $500 resale 121 00:06:25,390 --> 00:06:26,500 for the exact same ticket 122 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:27,880 that I was looking at five minutes prior. 123 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:28,800 It's crazy. 124 00:06:29,210 --> 00:06:30,620 At the same time, these scalpers, 125 00:06:31,700 --> 00:06:33,120 there's like a whole subculture 126 00:06:33,280 --> 00:06:34,820 that I've learned a little bit about 127 00:06:34,820 --> 00:06:37,200 that is all about like how do you make money 128 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:38,120 from this grift, right? 129 00:06:38,979 --> 00:06:40,640 Ticketmasters incentivize because they take a cut 130 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:42,480 of all the resales to keep letting this happen. 131 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,600 So I want to leverage all of the knowledge 132 00:06:45,740 --> 00:06:47,880 that these people have foolishly put out for free 133 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:51,440 and start a nonprofit that is a Ticketmaster Robinhood bot. 134 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,100 So we're going to take all of their processes 135 00:06:55,450 --> 00:06:58,620 and their tricks and their bots and their scamming stuff 136 00:06:58,840 --> 00:07:03,920 and sell things at sale at cost and run a 401, 137 00:07:04,620 --> 00:07:05,100 What is it called? 138 00:07:06,340 --> 00:07:07,140 403C Nonprofit. 139 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:09,240 Yeah, we're gonna go around. 140 00:07:09,780 --> 00:07:12,700 Do you, that rich donor, wanna donate to the art gallery 141 00:07:12,860 --> 00:07:15,780 or do you wanna donate to making experiences for people? 142 00:07:15,780 --> 00:07:18,680 We're gonna be like part Make-A-Wish and part, 143 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:23,080 we're gonna be the altruistic version 144 00:07:23,220 --> 00:07:25,760 that is trying to bring power back to the people. 145 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:27,320 I don't know what to call it yet. 146 00:07:27,460 --> 00:07:28,580 Take a master Robin Hood. 147 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:30,300 - So repeating this back, 148 00:07:31,980 --> 00:07:34,600 Nonprofit is gonna scalp all the tickets 149 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:42,860 And then resell them themselves just like they already do and resell them for at cost and we can actually do what ticketmaster or whoever 150 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:50,420 Should be doing and verifying that they're real people who intend on going and yes a lot of verification on limiting to a certain amount 151 00:07:50,580 --> 00:07:53,960 Yeah, absolutely. This stuff is so so solved 152 00:07:54,300 --> 00:07:58,500 It's very easy to make sure that people are legitimate people who are interested in going right? 153 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:03,980 So you offer that and you're the middleman the broker. This is a really good idea 154 00:08:05,100 --> 00:08:08,760 It seems like the kind of thing that would be like a like a meme it could go viral 155 00:08:08,900 --> 00:08:14,540 It's kind of a oh man. You got your tickets from the the whatever. Oh, that's so cool. You you won 156 00:08:14,620 --> 00:08:18,440 You'll say a lottery system. Do you remember what a huge deal people made about the Hamilton lottery? 157 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:27,140 Swift concerts in Hamilton. Yeah, it seems like we could like have that moment. We're like, oh wow 158 00:08:27,500 --> 00:08:29,980 Do you remember when blink-182 like? 159 00:08:30,220 --> 00:08:36,700 Announced their tour a year or two ago and the tickets were just like through the roof insane prices for the cheapest seats 160 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,960 That's absurd. And so this I mean it has to fund itself somehow 161 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:46,760 Oh, you get a flat 1% of everything or something. Yeah. Yeah, even then it's not gonna operate at a profit 162 00:08:46,820 --> 00:08:50,220 There is no business model here, which is why you need to then raise money 163 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:54,640 This could be something that could be tax write-offs for people who are looking for something to put money into 164 00:08:55,300 --> 00:08:59,199 It could be I'm not quite sure how to give the donors recognition 165 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:04,540 You know what I mean? Like yeah, there's got to be some way to reward someone for donating to this 166 00:09:04,980 --> 00:09:06,920 Honestly the marketing for it would be pretty easy 167 00:09:07,150 --> 00:09:12,700 Anyone that's ever posted on Facebook or Instagram like fuck ticketmaster like there there's your target audience right there 168 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:18,440 Are you giving away the tickets? No people are buying them through you at cost. At cost 169 00:09:18,690 --> 00:09:21,440 Well, you're still gonna lose money because oh, I see what you're saying 170 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,220 Just do a 1% markup on everything 171 00:09:23,460 --> 00:09:28,319 I would happily pay a 1% markup if I knew it was going towards this program to fuck ticketmaster 172 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,980 I think people would donate money to just have petty cash for this 173 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:37,520 For this org, right? Yeah. Yeah, you have a couple employees run the show. It's like 174 00:09:38,380 --> 00:09:43,500 Open source style VLC media player. You're like, yeah VLC. Oh, yeah 175 00:09:44,220 --> 00:09:46,000 I don't even know if it has to be a nonprofit 176 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,260 Like I would happily go to these guys all the time on it 177 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:52,100 And then as long as you get a little bit of seed funding on there 178 00:09:52,420 --> 00:09:54,059 You could you could have a profitable 179 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:58,900 Business model as long as your mission statement was like we will never ever charge more than 1% 180 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:05,260 Yeah above what the actual what we buy it for in theory if you only have a 30-day turnaround time, right? 181 00:10:05,260 --> 00:10:09,640 You could just put it on a big credit card like 20k tickets 182 00:10:11,420 --> 00:10:16,060 Literally cuz yeah, they're gonna sell they're gonna sell right cuz they're gonna be cheap 183 00:10:16,140 --> 00:10:19,999 You're gonna have the cheapest ones out there. You know how public media like NPR or 184 00:10:20,700 --> 00:10:27,220 PBS has corporate sponsors. I wonder if you could do that with the ticket like your two tickets to that Jonas Brothers concert 185 00:10:27,250 --> 00:10:33,240 You wanted to go to are sponsored by your local grocery store or whatever, you know, and it's like somehow 186 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:39,580 Hey, why don't you say thanks on social media to Burger King for making this possible for you today? 187 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,040 Maybe we kind of have a little bit of a donor 188 00:10:42,940 --> 00:10:50,680 Connection thing to the people who benefited from it. Nice 189 00:10:50,680 --> 00:10:53,080 Everything is at cost, right? 190 00:10:53,420 --> 00:10:56,160 But you make money on like the membership or-- 191 00:10:56,220 --> 00:10:57,600 - Could be a membership program, yeah. 192 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,360 - Yeah, or what is it? 193 00:11:00,460 --> 00:11:01,480 Just like the ads. 194 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:03,500 Like you just make money on a bunch of ads. 195 00:11:03,500 --> 00:11:06,860 You have to watch, sorry, but in order to make this cheap, 196 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,140 you have to watch 30 minutes of ads, 197 00:11:09,220 --> 00:11:11,240 no, like a minute of ads, right? 198 00:11:11,380 --> 00:11:13,060 - Wait, how does VLC make money? 199 00:11:13,220 --> 00:11:14,220 Do they make money? - I don't think they make money. 200 00:11:14,420 --> 00:11:15,020 - No. - Is it just, 201 00:11:15,140 --> 00:11:16,400 he's just like, I am ultra-listic, 202 00:11:16,560 --> 00:11:17,920 I am just putting this in the world. 203 00:11:18,100 --> 00:11:19,580 Oh my God, what an incredible human. 204 00:11:19,820 --> 00:11:23,820 Is a French dude who has turned down millions of dollars of offers to sell out. 205 00:11:24,340 --> 00:11:24,460 Yeah. 206 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:25,800 Amazing person. 207 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:27,000 They have a team and everything. 208 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:28,000 Yeah. 209 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:29,040 It's just cool. 210 00:11:29,560 --> 00:11:30,960 What is, why hasn't this existed? 211 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:32,100 Is there not enough? 212 00:11:32,560 --> 00:11:33,020 Why are you going? 213 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:34,580 Ticketmaster probably just squashes them. 214 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,820 If Leo's would start this, he'd get assassinated or something immediately. 215 00:11:39,779 --> 00:11:40,180 Assassinated. 216 00:11:40,340 --> 00:11:40,480 Yeah. 217 00:11:41,020 --> 00:11:45,320 Hey, would you pay, you know how there's Scott's cheap flights, which is now called 218 00:11:45,959 --> 00:11:49,220 going.com where it's like a newsletter where it's like, Hey, here's some cheap 219 00:11:49,220 --> 00:11:52,640 Would you pay five bucks a month, 60 bucks a year 220 00:11:52,940 --> 00:11:55,160 in order to have access to this club where, 221 00:11:55,680 --> 00:11:58,080 hey, just so you know, we got access to a handful 222 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,600 of tickets at cost to that local concert 223 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:02,940 that's sold out now, we'll sell them to you at cost. 224 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:05,780 But you make money entirely on the membership Costco style, 225 00:12:05,900 --> 00:12:07,060 like Russell said. 226 00:12:07,500 --> 00:12:08,220 - Yeah, yeah. 227 00:12:08,740 --> 00:12:11,600 That'd be tough, I think, if you didn't get enough tickets. 228 00:12:12,180 --> 00:12:13,740 You'd have to have enough inventory for people. 229 00:12:14,560 --> 00:12:15,800 Like if you had 10,000 members 230 00:12:15,980 --> 00:12:16,940 and you're only buying tickets, 231 00:12:17,060 --> 00:12:18,960 and you only can get like 50. 232 00:12:19,460 --> 00:12:20,880 - That's true, there's a critical mass there. 233 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:22,660 Or the opposite, you get a bunch of tickets 234 00:12:22,740 --> 00:12:25,060 and they don't end up selling out and nobody wants them. 235 00:12:25,740 --> 00:12:26,800 - Well, you just sell them to Ticketmaster. 236 00:12:27,300 --> 00:12:27,920 - Yeah. - Right? 237 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:28,600 (laughing) 238 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:30,480 Could you just sell them back to Ticketmaster? 239 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:32,420 - Yeah, I mean, do the resale thing. 240 00:12:32,820 --> 00:12:33,680 That's what they're all doing. 241 00:12:34,020 --> 00:12:36,040 - We can't be the first person to like, 242 00:12:36,170 --> 00:12:37,040 all right, I'm gonna take a 20, 243 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:40,260 I'm gonna just max out my American Express. 244 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:44,360 Leo, I'll just give you my code the next concert. 245 00:12:44,700 --> 00:12:47,040 It's gotta be bumping though, it's gotta be like-- 246 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,700 like Snoop Dogg or something nobody 247 00:12:55,300 --> 00:13:06,260 who do the kids like nowadays I know Jay Bieber okay Justin Biebs so you'd 248 00:13:06,460 --> 00:13:11,540 you'd get in and buy a chunk before all the other guys get in that's the idea 249 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:17,840 Mm-hmm. He's our own tool against them. Yeah all his sleazy secret methods. They post on reddit 250 00:13:17,940 --> 00:13:22,600 But if you have members you at least you know, they could do some survey in the beginning 251 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:28,940 You know what you're looking for you buy that because that's what they want. Totally match it up Netflix style 252 00:13:29,020 --> 00:13:32,560 Give me a thumbs up for how that was. We've got a recommendation for these kinds of people 253 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:39,380 Yeah, it could be very niche II right to that end, right? Like I only want you know, it's a certain genre, right? 254 00:13:39,380 --> 00:13:45,580 That's that's probably where you subscribe that would make more sense if like yeah, my punk emo rock 255 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:47,000 subscription 256 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:53,300 Honestly, I love that. Maybe there's just one dude right who wants one ticket. You only get one ticket, right? 257 00:13:53,380 --> 00:13:53,740 Yeah 258 00:13:54,090 --> 00:14:00,240 I know ahead of time that glass animals is gonna be playing in Toronto at X time and X people have signed up for this 259 00:14:00,340 --> 00:14:03,900 Service it's gonna steal X tickets. Oh, that's a really good idea steal 260 00:14:04,500 --> 00:14:09,620 Quickly purchase you have the demand there then yeah, there's not really much risk for you as long as you can get them 261 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,840 Yeah, you know that they're gonna be bought and paid for you 262 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:12,960 You know 263 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:14,640 You're gonna get your 1% markup on it 264 00:14:15,140 --> 00:14:19,580 and you always have the emergency escape hatch of like Russell said just sell it and for the markup that 265 00:14:20,100 --> 00:14:20,920 Other people do anyway 266 00:14:21,100 --> 00:14:25,780 Even like half the markup that everyone else is doing and you still are a good guy in the situation 267 00:14:25,930 --> 00:14:30,100 Even if you're making a profit, it's not a guarantee that someone signs up for that ahead of time 268 00:14:30,140 --> 00:14:32,880 We're gonna do our best to get you that ticket. But here we go 269 00:14:32,980 --> 00:14:39,720 Hmm, can we just partner with the venues or something ahead of time - that's the trouble ticket masters contracts 270 00:14:40,980 --> 00:14:47,980 Take a master has bought up like all of the exclusivity on every major performance venue that there is it's crazy 271 00:14:48,260 --> 00:14:52,740 So gross. Hmm Wow, and you can't even boycott him, right? 272 00:14:52,860 --> 00:14:54,640 Really? No, it's a true monopoly 273 00:14:55,400 --> 00:15:00,780 Everything bigger than your local community center or like outdoor park is exclusive. It's a bummer 274 00:15:01,620 --> 00:15:07,960 In conclusion, fuck Ticketmaster. Thank you for coming to my TED Talk. What a hot original take 275 00:15:17,900 --> 00:15:19,340 Scott what do you got for us this week? 276 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:25,939 okay, I fell down a rabbit hole a reddit rabbit hole last night of all these videos of cops pulling people over and 277 00:15:26,660 --> 00:15:28,200 Someone is doing something stupid. 278 00:15:28,380 --> 00:15:32,820 It's either the cop being like way too much escalated in the situation, or it's 279 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,840 some guy in the car who thinks he's a lawyer saying, I blah, blah, blah. 280 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:39,560 I know my rights and everyone's getting angry and it just always ends horribly. 281 00:15:40,119 --> 00:15:40,920 Sovereign citizen. 282 00:15:41,660 --> 00:15:42,060 Exactly. 283 00:15:42,700 --> 00:15:47,660 Uh, I want an app that when I get pulled over, I could just pull up the app and 284 00:15:47,700 --> 00:15:49,020 it does a bunch of different things. 285 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:52,940 It records the whole situation and interaction, and then it just gives me. 286 00:15:53,380 --> 00:15:59,760 Helpful hints or voice prompts anything that'll statistically reduce the likelihood that I'll get a ticket like whatever it takes 287 00:16:00,140 --> 00:16:03,200 I'm not gonna be an asshole to the cop. I'm not gonna like throw 288 00:16:04,100 --> 00:16:05,620 Anger all my rights in his face 289 00:16:05,630 --> 00:16:11,260 But I'm just gonna whatever is the most likely thing that I'm gonna get out of this situation without a ticket and that's the entire 290 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:15,180 Idea I've had like two bad tickets in my life and I've really wished I had this 291 00:16:15,500 --> 00:16:21,039 What is a bad ticket bad ticket is when the cop was having a really bad day when I was driving through Flint and he just 292 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:25,800 like unloaded the world on me and I'm at 10 and 2 I'm as polite as I could 293 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:30,120 possibly be but oh my god this man was angry at the time and if I had something 294 00:16:30,180 --> 00:16:34,280 that was telling me how to handle that situation or like afterwards I could use 295 00:16:34,340 --> 00:16:37,960 the app and scan the ticket and be like what's the chance that I could fight 296 00:16:38,060 --> 00:16:40,960 this in court can you give me like an action plan or something what are my 297 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:46,240 next steps here's my GPS location here's the district what do I do that's the 298 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:51,020 whole idea I just I got scared watching all these videos last night that's great 299 00:16:51,020 --> 00:16:55,600 Mm-hmm. What other features could you add to that integration with your local law firms? 300 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:03,720 Billboards are out. Yeah, Scott's app is in 301 00:17:04,579 --> 00:17:09,420 Yeah, have you been pulled over lately? I know you have you just sent me all the information already 302 00:17:09,939 --> 00:17:12,939 Contact me at this number. Okay, we're not gonna sell the data 303 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:18,540 But could you review cops like just create a review platform for instant review? 304 00:17:19,260 --> 00:17:22,579 Files a complaint through the app on like rate my professor 305 00:17:23,380 --> 00:17:26,660 Exactly. Yes. Oh 306 00:17:26,740 --> 00:17:31,740 Man, okay, and then that way it follows them to from precinct to precinct if they get fired 307 00:17:31,990 --> 00:17:37,000 You know, you can kind of like when you see one of the really bad cops like you're pulled over 308 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:41,580 Instantly like red alert like you need to be very careful here 309 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:44,600 95% of this cops 310 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:50,640 Pull or interactions have resulted in a ticket for the person it is advised that you do not say a word and just 311 00:17:51,300 --> 00:17:54,060 Get to this I know that cop cars are numbered 312 00:17:54,240 --> 00:18:01,920 But do they usually have the same person in them badge number are they a size a cop assigned a car number badge numbers 313 00:18:02,020 --> 00:18:04,760 You can politely ask them their name or something at the start 314 00:18:04,770 --> 00:18:07,120 You can ask for your badge number for sure, but by then it's too late 315 00:18:07,120 --> 00:18:12,020 I was gonna say what if you had the car laser detector thing on the windshield, but it's saying oh 316 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:16,840 That's cop car 2185 you do not want to mess with Doug today or whatever 317 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:25,900 87 tickets in the last four hours dude. It's like that ice block thing right? Yeah, I think that's very doable ice block Oh 318 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:28,520 ice ice Oh 319 00:18:29,620 --> 00:18:31,400 God I've heard of this a little that ice 320 00:18:32,180 --> 00:18:38,660 Is this worth explaining? What is the deal with ice? It's an app - it's like ways but for ice, right? 321 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:46,560 So outsourced location reports. Mm-hmm. That's a good idea. I'm I use like Claude all the time for legal questions 322 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:50,240 That's good. He's good. That's why you spent three months in jail 323 00:18:51,860 --> 00:18:53,960 Because of the terrible advice it gave you 324 00:18:56,240 --> 00:19:01,800 There's this would be dope like you could you have the right to remain silent and then you have this like little lawyer 325 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:06,140 Speaking on your behalf that is sorry. Here's my lawyer on the phone 326 00:19:06,740 --> 00:19:11,320 I don't know if I want the cop interacting with it. I've been trying to figure that part out 327 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:17,360 Like what is the thing that's gonna piss the cop off the least cuz like rights and other things they only go so far 328 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:21,920 I'm just trying to not get a ticket. That is my entire goal. I don't care if that takes flattery 329 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:25,420 I don't care if that means I'm throwing my rights in their face like whatever 330 00:19:26,110 --> 00:19:32,660 We could be like have a special mode where it's your mom calling you to come home quickly cuz grandpa's in the hospital 331 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:34,900 She's going into labor what? 332 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:37,580 Hold on, I gotta take this. 333 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:39,460 It's those fake phone call things. 334 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:40,720 Let me drive you to the hospital. 335 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,200 I'll happily walk you all the way to the room. 336 00:19:44,140 --> 00:19:44,540 That's great. 337 00:19:45,660 --> 00:19:46,060 Shoot. 338 00:19:47,100 --> 00:19:50,380 Then it has another mode where it hires someone to be in the room ahead of time or something 339 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:51,820 while you're on your way out there. 340 00:19:52,100 --> 00:19:52,380 Nice. 341 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,460 You're in a network of hospital moms, right? 342 00:19:57,120 --> 00:19:57,920 Paid staff. 343 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:02,820 Dude, how much money could a mom make for four days just sitting in a hospital? 344 00:20:04,120 --> 00:20:07,560 Pretending to be an excuse. Husband! Yeah, what's your name? 345 00:20:07,660 --> 00:20:11,260 Cops are gonna pick up on that. Every person I pulled over has been having a baby. 346 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:15,820 I met the same mother three times today. 347 00:20:17,620 --> 00:20:19,740 Four different times. Yeah. 348 00:20:25,120 --> 00:20:26,800 All right, Russell, what do you got for us this week? 349 00:20:27,180 --> 00:20:34,100 All right, so I was recently at the farmers market and everybody knows that 350 00:20:34,100 --> 00:20:36,560 in cash when you go to a farmer's market. 351 00:20:37,410 --> 00:20:38,700 The problem is-- 352 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:39,760 - Cash sucks. 353 00:20:39,780 --> 00:20:41,000 - I hate the ATMs. 354 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:43,380 Yeah, I also hate carrying cash, right? 355 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:49,360 So, my idea is to help support the people 356 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:54,160 that want to be cash businesses by renting, leasing, 357 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:58,160 selling, I don't know, mini ATMs, okay? 358 00:20:58,420 --> 00:21:01,300 There's a little bit of issues around data security, 359 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:02,380 I don't know, like money security, 360 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:07,160 but like basically, simply put, you buy a mini ATM, 361 00:21:07,650 --> 00:21:10,480 you strap it to the ground, it's your responsibility. 362 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,660 I don't know, like if you're a big enough business, 363 00:21:12,860 --> 00:21:17,000 like why not just get a thousand dollar mini ATM 364 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:20,340 in front of your booth and if they get stolen, 365 00:21:21,060 --> 00:21:22,820 you know, they're, I don't know, 366 00:21:22,900 --> 00:21:24,020 it's just the cops problem now. 367 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,020 But you put a little, you know, 368 00:21:27,120 --> 00:21:30,200 and it's, let's say you get a nice insurance policy with it, 369 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:33,080 You can pay more money to get the insurance policy, 370 00:21:33,220 --> 00:21:35,740 so if your mini ATM gets stolen, I don't know. 371 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:36,140 - Real slow. 372 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:36,980 - Yeah. 373 00:21:37,540 --> 00:21:39,620 - I'm just picturing a dude with a sign on him, 374 00:21:39,700 --> 00:21:41,360 like a Venmo QR code that's like, 375 00:21:41,620 --> 00:21:42,360 "I'm your ATM. 376 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:44,900 "You Venmo me, I'm gonna hand you the cash, one to one. 377 00:21:45,610 --> 00:21:46,960 "You can tip me if you want." 378 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:49,080 - Shoot, heck yeah. 379 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:53,060 - He gives you like, you know, you get $20 from him 380 00:21:53,060 --> 00:21:54,540 and give you a 10 to five and five ones, 381 00:21:54,540 --> 00:21:56,120 be like, you know, $1 tip maybe. 382 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:01,380 That's a great way to validate this idea so quickly. 383 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:02,600 I'm an ATM. 384 00:22:04,120 --> 00:22:05,380 Cash app, Venmo, whatever. 385 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:11,300 So is MiniATM the company stocking the ATM, 386 00:22:11,460 --> 00:22:13,460 or is the local business farm stand? 387 00:22:14,020 --> 00:22:17,740 Local businesses are responsible for-- 388 00:22:17,740 --> 00:22:18,940 Like, you know, just-- 389 00:22:18,940 --> 00:22:19,260 With money in it? 390 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:20,720 With money in it, yeah. 391 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:21,400 OK. 392 00:22:21,590 --> 00:22:24,360 It's a cash register style size, we'll say. 393 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:26,780 sits right at the corner of your booth, 394 00:22:26,870 --> 00:22:28,440 say, "Ah, sorry, we're cash only." 395 00:22:28,460 --> 00:22:29,880 You can go to the mini ATM there. 396 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,900 We split the commission on ATM fees, 397 00:22:33,430 --> 00:22:34,680 so they even make a little money. 398 00:22:35,020 --> 00:22:35,980 - I was just gonna say, 399 00:22:36,020 --> 00:22:37,980 I think more and more and more banks are like, 400 00:22:38,540 --> 00:22:42,900 "We'll cover up to three ATM fee transactions a month 401 00:22:42,950 --> 00:22:44,820 "or something on your plans." 402 00:22:44,820 --> 00:22:46,660 At least I know my local credit union does that. 403 00:22:47,260 --> 00:22:49,600 And that money is going to the ATM company. 404 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,979 That could instead be going to 50/50 405 00:22:52,980 --> 00:22:55,640 between your mini ATM company and the farm stand. 406 00:22:56,860 --> 00:22:57,660 That's interesting. 407 00:22:58,140 --> 00:22:58,280 - Yeah. 408 00:22:58,640 --> 00:22:59,740 - Skim off the top. 409 00:23:00,120 --> 00:23:01,900 - You don't have to put a ton of money in there either. 410 00:23:02,020 --> 00:23:04,240 You just, if it gets stolen, it's not too bad. 411 00:23:04,260 --> 00:23:07,020 - Yeah, just pictured my sign with the big QR code 412 00:23:07,100 --> 00:23:09,560 for Venmo is really just a, please rob me sign. 413 00:23:10,580 --> 00:23:11,980 I have cash on me. 414 00:23:12,300 --> 00:23:14,740 - I'm carrying a lot of money right now, thank you. 415 00:23:15,100 --> 00:23:15,260 Yeah. 416 00:23:15,820 --> 00:23:17,180 - Or you just have like a background guy, 417 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,280 just like roll up, handshake. 418 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:20,020 (laughing) 419 00:23:20,020 --> 00:23:20,220 You know. 420 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:21,000 - This one. 421 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:28,280 Pretty much all ATMs that I've seen in production, which there aren't very many left out there, 422 00:23:28,420 --> 00:23:31,240 but the ones that I've seen that aren't attached directly to a bank are cellular. 423 00:23:31,770 --> 00:23:36,340 Our local pizza place has one, our campus at Hope College has one, which means that 424 00:23:36,540 --> 00:23:38,380 the infrastructure's gotta be already there, right? 425 00:23:38,980 --> 00:23:41,400 Like, you take what's in there, you miniaturize it. 426 00:23:41,820 --> 00:23:44,280 I don't think you have to reinvent everything to make this product real. 427 00:23:44,740 --> 00:23:45,840 Why are they ginormous? 428 00:23:46,420 --> 00:23:49,700 Like insanely... like CRT, you know what I mean? 429 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:56,420 Let's just let's get a Canon printer. Okay, easy to walk off with you know metal box 430 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,040 Easy like you throw an air tag in that shit 431 00:24:02,340 --> 00:24:02,620 now 432 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:08,380 They're gonna spike lock right you tell the cop. It's grand larceny, right? 433 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:12,980 Cuz that's a felony you you stock it with enough money so that it is grand larceny 434 00:24:13,210 --> 00:24:15,580 And then with an air tag a cop, you know 435 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:16,500 They have to do something. 436 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:21,240 And now, as long as that air tag takes longer than, you know, 437 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:25,480 a day to get out or a couple days or somebody's got a special 438 00:24:25,620 --> 00:24:28,560 tool. And at that point, the air tags like, you know where it was. 439 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:29,100 I don't know. 440 00:24:30,179 --> 00:24:30,960 This is neat. 441 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:31,380 Yeah. 442 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:36,560 Does miniATMs.com like lease them out and rent them? Or is this 443 00:24:36,660 --> 00:24:40,640 a product that's sold and then the farm stand owns it, but they 444 00:24:40,660 --> 00:24:42,200 pay a subscription to keep it working? 445 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,520 Or what's the angle here? 446 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:49,200 Right, that's the part, the machine itself, the mini ATM. 447 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,000 So yeah, we can sell the hardware. 448 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:52,500 You could rent it, you could sell it. 449 00:24:52,780 --> 00:24:55,520 That's probably better for mini ATM because I bet a lot of farm 450 00:24:55,610 --> 00:25:00,680 stands don't want to pay monthly in January when they don't have 451 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:01,580 their farm stand. 452 00:25:02,620 --> 00:25:04,480 So if you've sold it to them already, yeah. 453 00:25:04,820 --> 00:25:07,040 Yeah, and they can place in other places, right? 454 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:11,280 If they own it or you can franchise it and be the person that 455 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:17,680 Distributes those many ATMs to a farmers market sell to farmers markets and they can then but what's cool about is you don't need 456 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:22,480 A ship it like the shipping of a giant ATM. I think is like way crazier 457 00:25:23,140 --> 00:25:28,700 This is just like a smart like a modern ATM as long as your credit card processing fee 458 00:25:28,940 --> 00:25:29,000 Yeah 459 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,280 if you're cheaper than credit cards instead of 460 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:38,600 35 cents plus 3% or whatever it is nowadays for square or clover or any of those if you're less than that then you could 461 00:25:38,500 --> 00:25:42,920 even say, "Hey, farm stand, we'll charge you 21 bucks for every 20 that these people 462 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,980 take out and call it even otherwise." 463 00:25:45,980 --> 00:25:47,080 And you just skim off the top. 464 00:25:47,550 --> 00:25:48,140 Oh, man, yeah. 465 00:25:48,140 --> 00:25:48,240 It's still cheaper than credit. 466 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:49,180 I didn't even think about that. 467 00:25:49,540 --> 00:25:52,700 Yeah, the 3% alone, they could just start phasing out. 468 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,020 Like, "Hey, we'll give you a discount if you use cash. 469 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:57,180 Use the ATM." 470 00:25:57,180 --> 00:25:57,320 Right? 471 00:25:57,770 --> 00:25:58,440 "I don't make money." 472 00:25:58,440 --> 00:25:58,640 Yeah. 473 00:25:59,000 --> 00:25:59,300 Yeah. 474 00:25:59,580 --> 00:26:00,560 And you're going to make money, right? 475 00:26:00,610 --> 00:26:04,700 In a way, so, yeah, just bring back cash, right? 476 00:26:06,300 --> 00:26:10,560 to make life worse for credit card companies. They're an evil industry and 477 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:14,280 that would be wonderful. --So we're fucking over Ticketmaster, fucking over Visa 478 00:26:14,900 --> 00:26:18,780 --Yeah, down with the system! That's the name of this episode. --Fight the cops. 479 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:26,860 --See this, if we get really cool we can actually print the money so it's really small. 480 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:28,460 We get a little-- 481 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:29,880 Use your inkjet in the back. 482 00:26:31,660 --> 00:26:32,540 Shrute bucks. 483 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,680 And then, hey, I mean, there might 484 00:26:37,740 --> 00:26:41,100 be a way to do your own kind of currency from the ATM, 485 00:26:41,100 --> 00:26:42,040 if it's a mini ATM. 486 00:26:42,490 --> 00:26:43,360 I was going there. 487 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:43,840 Yeah. 488 00:26:44,300 --> 00:26:44,480 OK. 489 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:45,020 OK. 490 00:26:45,180 --> 00:26:47,360 And then you go back to miniatm.com 491 00:26:47,620 --> 00:26:49,000 and you type in your serial numbers 492 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,340 and they deposit it into your bank account. 493 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:52,220 Yeah. 494 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:56,760 Little old school cash but not at the same time. 495 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:57,640 I don't know about that. 496 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:00,340 You know what's great about cash? 497 00:27:00,540 --> 00:27:04,280 Well, now imagine that, but only accepted at one place. 498 00:27:05,820 --> 00:27:07,920 Take the worst parts of cash and gift cards 499 00:27:08,620 --> 00:27:09,420 and smush them together. 500 00:27:10,120 --> 00:27:11,420 That's exactly what I'm thinking. 501 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,000 I got a house recently. 502 00:27:14,620 --> 00:27:18,860 Realtor gift was literally $100 of John bucks. 503 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,100 This guy created his own currency 504 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,420 that I can use at a couple different places around town. 505 00:27:24,620 --> 00:27:26,120 And it's this whole process. 506 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,020 It's just a card that's like, well, you gotta can't. 507 00:27:29,430 --> 00:27:31,220 I tried to use it and the manager's like, 508 00:27:31,340 --> 00:27:33,040 I have no idea what this is. 509 00:27:33,420 --> 00:27:35,600 And it took like 30 minutes of talking 510 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:36,620 to all these different employees. 511 00:27:36,660 --> 00:27:39,080 Eventually the owner's like, oh yeah, that. 512 00:27:39,460 --> 00:27:40,720 Yeah, just honor that. 513 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:41,480 I don't remember. 514 00:27:42,140 --> 00:27:42,760 It was awful. 515 00:27:43,340 --> 00:27:43,780 (laughing) 516 00:27:43,780 --> 00:27:44,860 That is so weird. 517 00:27:44,860 --> 00:27:45,880 - That is a social nightmare. 518 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:47,840 That is a my mother, my mother would be questioned. 519 00:27:48,340 --> 00:27:49,420 I love that very much. 520 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:50,580 - John Bucks. 521 00:27:51,300 --> 00:27:51,460 Ugh. 522 00:27:52,380 --> 00:27:52,820 (laughing) 523 00:27:53,460 --> 00:27:54,940 Okay, that's my next pit ball. 524 00:27:55,040 --> 00:28:02,460 Okay, we're gonna meme coin every but cash for everybody. Yeah, how does your ATM get on the blockchain? Yeah 525 00:28:04,340 --> 00:28:08,240 Everybody gets their own gift card and their own currency. There we go. All right 526 00:28:08,260 --> 00:28:12,060 I I haven't thought this through yet. But what is it possible to? 527 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:19,240 Like have the digital part of the ATM but use your own cash from your cash register to give them money 528 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:23,940 Whoa virtual ATM a ghost kitchen ATM, so I run a business 529 00:28:23,860 --> 00:28:27,640 I go to the bank and I'm like, all right if people use this ATM 530 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:32,820 I'm just gonna hold like I like your Venmo sign Scott. I guess yeah, that's true for any business 531 00:28:32,820 --> 00:28:38,300 I could go into probably not Jimmy John's but I'll say Jimmy John's it'd be like could I Venmo you 50 bucks and you give 532 00:28:38,300 --> 00:28:42,960 Me 50 bucks, you know, remember when they used to do cash back with a debit card 533 00:28:44,860 --> 00:28:46,320 Yeah, I guess it is just cash back 534 00:28:53,039 --> 00:28:53,840 but Venmo 535 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,320 ATM is like a financial thing. 536 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:01,300 I don't understand exactly how that gets processed as a transaction on the back end. 537 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:06,360 You need to somehow become, I'm sure, valid as a real ATM. 538 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,000 There's like a backbone network. 539 00:29:09,340 --> 00:29:09,920 That fee. 540 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,360 There's probably some... yeah, that's the mafia. 541 00:29:12,820 --> 00:29:15,280 The ATM debit card mafia, right? 542 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:16,420 They're like, "No." 543 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:17,080 That's right. 544 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:22,960 Financial companies famously love young upstarts coming in and shaking everything up. 545 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,680 I like a good fight the power episode 546 00:29:32,020 --> 00:29:33,640 How are you gonna take down the system 547 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,360 I'm gonna take us a whole different place here with a 548 00:29:38,220 --> 00:29:45,540 Wonderful. Hell yeah, let's go Costa. What do you got for us? All right, so my idea is not very techie or 549 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,260 Software II or anything like that 550 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,600 Great so the thought is 551 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,620 Um, you're walking your kid in the stroller and the park and you know, 552 00:29:55,780 --> 00:29:57,580 like there's a couple of different configurations. 553 00:29:58,460 --> 00:30:02,600 Um, you got your kid facing forward, you got your kid facing 554 00:30:03,060 --> 00:30:04,260 towards you backwards, right? 555 00:30:04,780 --> 00:30:07,040 And you're pushing on the handlebar. 556 00:30:07,650 --> 00:30:10,920 And if you want to interact with your kid, you're probably, if they're 557 00:30:10,990 --> 00:30:12,340 looking at you, you can talk to them. 558 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:16,920 But if they're facing forward, you kind of have to stop lean over. 559 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:17,880 Hey, how you doing? 560 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:19,560 Uh, are you asleep? 561 00:30:19,700 --> 00:30:20,460 What's going on? 562 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,580 But, uh, you know, like when you're walking in the park with a friend, you're 563 00:30:24,620 --> 00:30:26,520 not walking single file, right? 564 00:30:26,820 --> 00:30:28,400 You're, you're walking side by side. 565 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:36,160 So the thought is, um, to create a handle attachment, a handlebar attachment that 566 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:41,360 will swing you to the side of the stroller right next to the kid. 567 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:46,820 So you can have a conversation, you can talk to them, you could do whatever, you 568 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,660 know, you would do with your buddy walking side by side. 569 00:30:50,660 --> 00:30:53,960 Um, and then, so there's a little, you know, you gotta have a 570 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,100 certain mechanism to, uh, to steer. 571 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,980 I've been thinking about kind of propulsion assist, maybe like a 572 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,400 push behind mower situation. 573 00:31:03,580 --> 00:31:05,400 So like you could, um, go up a hill. 574 00:31:05,540 --> 00:31:07,880 My wife hates going up the hills with the double stroller. 575 00:31:08,940 --> 00:31:10,140 So that's where I'm at. 576 00:31:10,180 --> 00:31:11,620 That's, that's my thought there. 577 00:31:11,900 --> 00:31:15,220 It's been, so every now and then I'll, I'll hold on to the side of the 578 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,620 stroller and walk next to my kid, like just holding on really tight. 579 00:31:19,060 --> 00:31:20,180 And it's a blast, you know? 580 00:31:20,300 --> 00:31:24,380 So what if I had a nice handle there that I could do this with? 581 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:25,540 That's great. 582 00:31:26,230 --> 00:31:31,220 Are you thinking this is a different kind of stroller that you sell or is this an add-on accessory for any... 583 00:31:31,820 --> 00:31:33,140 Nothing new there. 584 00:31:33,540 --> 00:31:40,100 Just a... it climps onto your handlebar and then it kind of swings out to the side when you want it to. 585 00:31:40,590 --> 00:31:41,920 Otherwise it swings back in. 586 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:43,360 That's so fun. 587 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:45,300 Literally was doing this the other day. 588 00:31:45,300 --> 00:31:48,520 I was walking downtown, holding the stroller. 589 00:31:49,940 --> 00:31:51,740 And it's impossible, right? 590 00:31:51,740 --> 00:31:52,940 Because you're bumping into people, 591 00:31:53,180 --> 00:31:55,120 and then you're constantly going back and forth. 592 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,800 But it's also extremely awkward, too, to hold it. 593 00:31:58,900 --> 00:32:01,680 Yeah, I know exactly that feel. 594 00:32:02,220 --> 00:32:02,920 And you know what else? 595 00:32:03,180 --> 00:32:05,580 The ergonomics for when you're pushing a shopping cart. 596 00:32:06,100 --> 00:32:08,480 I have-- so I'm behind where the things are being held. 597 00:32:08,740 --> 00:32:10,060 I've grabbed a jar of peanut butter. 598 00:32:10,180 --> 00:32:12,820 I now have to reach across everything 599 00:32:12,820 --> 00:32:15,000 into the farthest possible spot away 600 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:16,880 in order to dip way down into the basket. 601 00:32:17,420 --> 00:32:19,040 Sure, it'd be nice to walk right next to it instead, 602 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:19,540 wouldn't it? 603 00:32:19,820 --> 00:32:21,880 - I always walk next to a shopping cart. 604 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,060 I hold it by the side and I walk next to me on it. 605 00:32:24,100 --> 00:32:25,700 It's probably an asshole to other people's 606 00:32:25,700 --> 00:32:27,140 and I'm just realizing this now, 607 00:32:27,500 --> 00:32:29,920 but it is so much easier to shop this way. 608 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:31,780 Yes, I get it. 609 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,740 - You need this mod that you attach to the handles. 610 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,700 - So I'm sorry, 'cause this is like, I love the idea. 611 00:32:38,780 --> 00:32:41,460 This is like a bar that comes out on the side of it 612 00:32:41,460 --> 00:32:44,720 that I can put, okay, I push the stroller next to me. 613 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,160 - Yeah, so the bar would attach to the handlebars 614 00:32:46,780 --> 00:32:48,140 and then it would have a pivot 615 00:32:48,580 --> 00:32:50,540 that would allow you to swing it forward 616 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,340 and it would extend, yeah. 617 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,300 - Ah, an optional pivot that can come out, okay, yes. 618 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:57,600 - So you can tug it back in, 'cause yeah, 619 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,800 there's times you don't wanna be that wide 620 00:33:00,820 --> 00:33:01,600 with your kid, right? 621 00:33:01,780 --> 00:33:04,260 So you'll bring it back, you're good to go. 622 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:04,640 - Of course. 623 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:05,720 - That's great. 624 00:33:06,220 --> 00:33:10,040 I got all the way to pricing out, 625 00:33:10,420 --> 00:33:13,940 like bank teller intercom systems 626 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,660 because my kids stroller when they were younger 627 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,800 had this rain cover that would go over it 628 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,220 and he couldn't talk to them or acknowledge them 629 00:33:22,220 --> 00:33:23,300 or check to see if they're okay. 630 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,440 And I think I even texted Scott about this years ago, 631 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,460 like what's the best way to hear what they're saying 632 00:33:28,580 --> 00:33:30,480 and have two-way communication back in 633 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,860 that's mobile and battery powered and whatever? 634 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:34,620 Because you're absolutely right, 635 00:33:34,620 --> 00:33:36,980 like where you're at is ergonomically a terrible place 636 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:38,700 to like have interaction with the kid. 637 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,460 And so I was looking at like, how do I just like keep a conversation going, 638 00:33:42,490 --> 00:33:43,760 even though I'm not in front of them. 639 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:44,760 I like that too, though. 640 00:33:44,930 --> 00:33:45,740 Like a little. 641 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:47,840 In, in stroller video. 642 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:48,160 Yeah. 643 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:54,320 Like a baby monitor inside there, but like, they don't want to 644 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:55,360 just be looking at a camera. 645 00:33:55,450 --> 00:33:58,960 You almost want a two way baby monitor or maybe it's just voice. 646 00:33:59,040 --> 00:33:59,540 I don't know. 647 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,460 I do think it's a problem, right? 648 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,020 Like zoom call style, right? 649 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:04,520 People just talk over each other. 650 00:34:04,620 --> 00:34:04,780 Right. 651 00:34:05,260 --> 00:34:08,740 Am I going to be on a zoom call with the other device that I can 652 00:34:08,740 --> 00:34:11,820 in front of me maybe you just use an old phone and do that yeah that's awful it 653 00:34:11,820 --> 00:34:27,399 could be two old iPhones, the worst experience of my life. The lag, the stroller, your child is not stop touching the screen you know I just you go into a dead spot 654 00:34:27,399 --> 00:34:31,120 and you just but I think a hardware like a hardware like that would be awesome I 655 00:34:31,159 --> 00:34:35,520 actually got a walkie-talkie for when I'm riding my bike in there in the 656 00:34:35,419 --> 00:34:40,300 whatever the the burly bee yep but it kind of sucks cuz he doesn't really know 657 00:34:40,300 --> 00:34:45,379 how to like press the button yeah yep I can't hear you I can't hear you it's 658 00:34:45,419 --> 00:34:48,440 cuz you're hold I can't even tell him that he's holding on the button so it's 659 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:56,040 like what do you do the concept of yeah yeah the walkie-talkie intercom category 660 00:34:56,200 --> 00:35:01,660 needs a kid-friendly innovation agreed like a pennant that you clip to him that 661 00:35:01,660 --> 00:35:08,160 is just Vox and two-way talk. Open channel. I would buy that. Yeah. I think they 662 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:19,400 invented this though it's like two cups and string right? While biking. I thought you're 663 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:25,860 gonna go into a they sell these monitors like video monitors for my car so I can 664 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:30,180 watch my kids in the car I like there's a two-way one and a split screen and all 665 00:35:29,980 --> 00:35:33,760 all that stuff, it's like 50 bucks, but it's not two way. 666 00:35:34,220 --> 00:35:34,420 Right. 667 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,500 It's just it's a monitor, right? 668 00:35:36,500 --> 00:35:37,500 You watch them. 669 00:35:37,940 --> 00:35:40,520 You need it to be interactive. 670 00:35:41,140 --> 00:35:43,640 There's probably something to be said about not training 671 00:35:43,700 --> 00:35:48,520 your kid on watching your face on a screen as, like, primary 672 00:35:48,660 --> 00:35:50,200 interaction with you, the parent. 673 00:35:50,310 --> 00:35:51,260 You know, yeah. 674 00:35:51,900 --> 00:35:54,600 As I'm thinking more about this, gluing the iPad into the 675 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,060 stroller, be like, watch, watch, Daddy. 676 00:35:57,240 --> 00:35:58,740 We're going to have a conversation now. 677 00:35:58,740 --> 00:36:04,340 That's a little weird for a toddler. I don't want to lean over. I don't know what to tell you. I 678 00:36:08,619 --> 00:36:13,540 Well in my case it was this waterproof cover thing so we could see them but we'd have to like undo it 679 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:18,400 Well, it's right. I mean like you do it. All right in here then like rebundle them in you know, like their little pod 680 00:36:20,060 --> 00:36:25,140 So you wanted to do like extra components though like the electric boost, you know the self-propelled 681 00:36:25,780 --> 00:36:33,160 Stroller mods they could be something different. Yeah, like I'd love a boost for the stroller that I don't think I'd haven't seen that 682 00:36:33,610 --> 00:36:36,720 An e-bike where it's like pedal assist, but it's a push assist 683 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:42,360 Yeah, you just attach it to the bottom or something and make it a system. Yeah 684 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:49,040 Yeah, it's a little you can clip it in the front or the back so it can be push or pull right? 685 00:36:49,590 --> 00:36:53,500 That seems that seems nice. Yeah, why is that not? 686 00:36:54,460 --> 00:36:56,120 It's probably somewhere. It costs a lot of money. 687 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:57,840 You can hit 30 miles an hour on this baby. 688 00:36:58,420 --> 00:36:58,820 [laughter] 689 00:36:59,720 --> 00:37:00,200 Hop on! 690 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:01,800 That's what you do, right, Leo? 691 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,180 You literally one-wheel with a wagon, right? 692 00:37:05,540 --> 00:37:06,720 That's true, I do do that. 693 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,720 What about that? What about the mod being 694 00:37:10,180 --> 00:37:14,120 "Attach your scooter one-wheel, sidecar style," right? 695 00:37:14,720 --> 00:37:15,660 Little sketch, but a little... 696 00:37:15,700 --> 00:37:17,900 Yeah, we've once again run up against the 697 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,460 "As long as you put a warning label on it" territory 698 00:37:20,620 --> 00:37:22,520 we should be okay legally, right? 699 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:26,560 Someone breaks their neck on your electric stroller mod. 700 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:31,840 I'm not the guy on the one wheel, Leo, pulling the wagon at 15 miles per hour on the road. 701 00:37:32,340 --> 00:37:35,200 Yeah, we've hit the wagon at top speed, yes. 702 00:37:35,820 --> 00:37:38,340 Of course you're going to, right? Of course. 703 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:39,740 It's very fun. 704 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:42,280 Fresh paved road. 705 00:37:42,620 --> 00:37:45,580 Kids love it, dad loves it. Mom doesn't know, it's great. 706 00:37:45,820 --> 00:37:46,500 Everyone's happy. 707 00:37:47,620 --> 00:37:50,520 Well, we'll see if that gets cut in this... 708 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:52,040 (laughing) 709 00:37:53,020 --> 00:37:54,000 - Does Megan listen to the dub? 710 00:37:54,220 --> 00:37:54,940 - We're good, we're good. 711 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:56,600 - Okay, okay. 712 00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:58,920 This will be the first episode she does. 713 00:37:58,930 --> 00:37:59,040 - Right. 714 00:37:59,690 --> 00:38:00,560 - You did what? 715 00:38:00,940 --> 00:38:02,880 - Yeah, initially I talked it through with my wife 716 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:04,560 and I'm like, what if it just followed you? 717 00:38:04,860 --> 00:38:07,180 Like, what if it just followed you? 718 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,040 But she didn't like that. 719 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,220 She's like, there's no way, I don't trust it. 720 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:13,600 - Like Grogu. 721 00:38:16,140 --> 00:38:17,420 You know what I'm talking about with the luggage? 722 00:38:17,430 --> 00:38:17,800 - Is that a thing? 723 00:38:17,820 --> 00:38:19,280 - That's the baby Yoda and the Mandalorian. 724 00:38:19,420 --> 00:38:19,980 But, um... 725 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,720 Oh, got it, got it. I'm like, "Is this a brand? I don't know this one." 726 00:38:22,740 --> 00:38:24,840 You know, the little pod that the baby Yoda sits in. 727 00:38:24,940 --> 00:38:25,180 Mm-hmm. 728 00:38:25,540 --> 00:38:27,320 Do you know the luggage that would do this? 729 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,360 There was like a couple years before they banned this in airports, 730 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:34,020 but there was a little Bluetooth beacon that you'd have in your pocket or RF or something, 731 00:38:34,580 --> 00:38:38,220 and the luggage was motorized and would like follow behind you like a little dog. 732 00:38:39,079 --> 00:38:40,800 That's what you want for the whole stroller. 733 00:38:41,220 --> 00:38:42,400 Hope it doesn't go haywire. 734 00:38:42,940 --> 00:38:43,340 That's fun. 735 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,020 Oh, I feel bad for that startup. 736 00:38:45,460 --> 00:38:47,440 They pour millions into this and the engineering, 737 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:54,120 And then they wake up one day and it's just banned everywhere. You could put like a rope. That's a rope to the 738 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:57,420 clothesline every little kid along the way 739 00:38:58,820 --> 00:39:02,000 No, I we put a leash believe it or not on this side of our 740 00:39:02,780 --> 00:39:08,440 Stroller cuz sometimes my son wants to jump out and walk next to it, but we don't want him to run too far 741 00:39:08,540 --> 00:39:13,860 So he's like hey hold the leash to the stroller if you let go the leash you're going back in that stroller 742 00:39:13,900 --> 00:39:16,220 So don't let go but I've used it before 743 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,780 to like pull the stroller closer or, you know, 744 00:39:21,020 --> 00:39:22,760 little yo-yo action, you know, 745 00:39:23,020 --> 00:39:26,320 sometimes it's nice to rock the 11 month old. 746 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,780 - This is box fan mods, but stroller mods. 747 00:39:30,060 --> 00:39:31,200 That's what we've arrived at. 748 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:33,920 Russell's pitch like many episodes ago 749 00:39:34,020 --> 00:39:36,920 was just a suite of different accessories for box fans. 750 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,740 We've at least three or four products deep now 751 00:39:40,380 --> 00:39:41,900 for strollermods.com. 752 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:44,900 That's great. 753 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,440 Five-point harness that baby. We're going remote control stroller 754 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,420 RC stroller racing sprint mods 755 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:54,460 flight mods 756 00:39:55,819 --> 00:39:59,040 Oh God Oh quadcopter stroller 757 00:40:02,940 --> 00:40:04,940 Loudest thing you can imagine 758 00:40:08,900 --> 00:40:10,839 Got over that puddle 759 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:19,480 Got up the hill. You got up the hill. That's right. What's the way we can get up this hill using the most energy possible? 760 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:27,100 Well, dear listener if you are enjoying listening to our show on your evening walk with your young one 761 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:32,040 Pushing a stroller wishing that you were next to them instead of behind them. Thank you very much for listening 762 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:36,860 We hope you enjoyed yourself and thank you so much Costa for joining us. This was awesome. Thank you guys 763 00:40:37,100 --> 00:40:38,820 It was my pleasure. 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