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I'm Scott, I'm Russell, and I'm Leo.

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This is Spitball.

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Welcome to Spitball, the Pitching Kitchen, where three lovable scamps, that's us, empty

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their heads of any startup and tech product ideas that we have stuck up in here so you

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Anything we say is yours to keep.

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And this week is a special week because it is our first episode with a guest.

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Please welcome to the podcast, Miss Stephanie.

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Hey, it's Steph.

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Welcome.

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We're so happy to have you.

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This is gonna be a lot of fun.

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Steph and I work together in an IT department and we are constantly throwing ideas back

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and forth about things that we wish existed, websites and startups and all that.

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We think we're gonna have fun today.

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All right, Scott, you're up first this week.

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What's up?

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What do you got?

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So this is one that I just, or my wife and I thought of a couple of days ago and I haven't

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been able to stop thinking about it.

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We were out at a bar and we had biked there and as we were biking home, we played a game.

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We kind of like rode onto a basketball court at a school and we were just kind of winding

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around the hoops there.

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And we had also just previously watched the movie Top Gun the other day, like the new

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one.

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And as we're doing it, we're a little inebriated and we're pretending that we are both fighter

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planes trying to shoot down the other person on bikes like every kid has ever done.

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And how we were doing it though is like if I got behind you and you're in my sights and

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I would start counting as fast as I could to 20, like one, two, three, four, five, six,

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seven, eight, whatever.

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The first one to hit 20 and you count up for wherever you left off would have shot down

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the other person.

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Sure.

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And it was a fucking blast.

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It was so much fun, probably because we were drunk.

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But I can't stop thinking about how I would do hardware for this.

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Sure.

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How do you actually make this into a quick, simple piece of hardware that you could place

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on a bike, Bluetooth connected to your phone, and then have whatever features on there,

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like picture an IR sensor pointed just directly forward and then a receiver that gives you

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360 around you.

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So you can be shot from any side, but you can only shoot your IR signal out front.

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And every blast of IR would just be specific to whatever piece of hardware so it knows

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who it's going to.

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And then picture like something that actually holds your physical phone so you can clip

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it on your front handlebars.

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And it has all your screen, like your health or your ammo count or whatever, and with a

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simple button to shoot.

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And that is the entire hardware section of it.

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I would have a lot of fun with that, and I'm tempted to try it, but I don't have time.

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That rules.

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You've invented laser tag, but with a mount.

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Laser tag on bikes.

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Right.

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That's what I was thinking, laser tag.

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This sounds so fun.

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Yeah, that's what it's used.

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So the kit like clamps onto your handlebars and stuff, and you've got like a trigger on

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the handles.

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Okay, okay.

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Yep.

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Single button for your thumb and nothing else.

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I don't know how you avoid the lawsuits here.

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What kind of lawsuits?

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Someone's going to go flying, right?

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Oh, I know.

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Okay, well, then you just put it in big letters on top, like do not use ever or something.

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Yeah, because that totally works.

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Wait, is it like dangerous?

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Is that what you're saying?

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I just feel like, you know, you're encouraging a bunch of people to do distracted driving,

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but on bikes where they have no roll cage around them.

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But this sounds awesome.

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It's fair.

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Every good thing in life is dangerous.

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Starts with something dangerous until the lawyers get at it.

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Then you can't do it anymore.

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It's like lawn darts.

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I feel like this is just an app though, right?

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I feel like this.

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Yeah, the vast majority becomes an app real quick where you, I mean, okay, if you got

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multiple cell phones, you can have as many people as you want.

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Tell me more about the software side that you're picturing, because I've only ever used

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a laser tag kits from like the nineties that had no smartphone component to them and they

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just kind of made an explosion sound and you had three lives or whatever.

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So what, what is, what is making a smartphone aware laser tag thing get you that probably

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exists now, right?

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Like, are there laser tag kits that pair your phone?

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You think I feel like it has to, I haven't actually looked for that.

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I mean, a great benchmark though.

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All the zoomers are going to be mad at us.

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That should exist like a laser tag for your phone.

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I played laser tag on my iPad 10 years ago, grandpa.

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Yes.

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So you've got lives, you've got, I think it's just health and an ammo count and a reset.

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I mean, that's the absolute minimum MVP you could do for this thing.

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You could add whatever features later.

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But then with the app, then you would get more analytics.

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Like with the regular laser tag, you don't get to see like, oh, you got shot by this

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person this many times and this person this many times.

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Longest stretch that you were in their sights or whatever.

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At an actual laser tag facility, sometimes they'll have like grenades or special like

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multi shot and that kind of thing.

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So there's, there's ways to expand it.

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You could add missiles or something on there.

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Boom.

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Pay to play, pay to win.

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Pay to win.

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I got it.

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You got to upgrade to this 28 speed bike and that's the only way you're going to outmaneuver

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them.

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I'm a bike laser whale.

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I'm going to spend a hundred dollars a day on this.

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Cosmetics for days.

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Is there a way we can turn this into an ARG where it's like world, like Pokemon Go, where

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this is always happening everywhere and you just see people running around with their,

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you know what I mean?

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Like they have to go out to certain checkpoints and get things at certain times.

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And so you see the bikes just sort of flying around.

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Is this a bad idea?

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I don't know.

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Well, I just pictured like, I mean, I love the bike aspect of it.

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That's what made this so much fun.

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You're saying if we had a piece of hardware that you could just put on any phone and all

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of a sudden it becomes like Pokemon Go or whatnot, where random people on the street

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are playing, but you can only see who's playing through the app or whatever.

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But then all of a sudden we're going to have people pointing their phones at other people

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like guns and then someone's going to get shot for real.

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So that might not be a good idea.

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We'll stick with the bikes.

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It can't look like a gun, but it doesn't have to.

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That's the cool part about this is you maybe have some sort of like flag or denote some

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way to say, oh, I'm playing this game on my bike or whatever, or maybe you'd even know

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what the hardware strap to it, but it doesn't have to look like a gun because the bike is

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the weapon in this fantasy world.

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Laser tag has the whole like gun connotation, whereas if you just have this, you know, starfighter

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pilot or deemed or whatever, you know?

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We found that the game didn't work too well when we were going home.

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You know, you're pretty much going in from point A to point B in a straight line.

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It was hard to get crazy fun maneuvers on there.

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But when we were both on a very open court with random obstacles like basketball poles

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and stuff, when we're maneuvering around, that's when it got extremely fun.

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So I don't know if it would be good at the randos on there.

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That sounds fun.

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I'm on the street.

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Do there are a lot of parks.

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I feel like this could this could exist in like some random parking lot.

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You go to the one of the dead malls, you know, and you just we're going to meet up and do

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bike tag.

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I don't know.

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Well, it'd be the because like in the neighborhood near us, they've been doing like Nerf wars

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and they have they invite all the neighborhood kids and they come do a Nerf war.

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Well, this would be the adult version.

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Love that.

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Totally adult version.

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Well, yeah, as I said, it I was like, well, I can't adults have Nerf wars too.

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Heck yeah.

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We just got to make it a drinking game.

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That's all you get shot down and take a shot.

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Move back.

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I mean, what if you brought like paintball, like dying paintball facilities and you're

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just like, all right, add bikes.

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What if we just put a gun on the front of the bike?

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It's just paintball.

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There's no app or anything.

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You have like an actual paintball gun on your bike.

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You know, we don't even need bikes.

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You guys just want to go play paintball.

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Well, like you're all wearing helmets anyway, right?

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Of course it's safe.

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You can still mount it to the front, right?

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So you can't like, you know, side shooting or something, but like you can still have

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like the same wing, like fighter pilot aspect, right?

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So it's just mounted to the actual bike.

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Dude, that'd be, I mean, not paintball.

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OK, replace paintball with Nerf darts, you know, replace paintball with Nerf balls and

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you got a kid friendly version, right?

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That would be pretty cool.

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Just a full launcher on the front of some kind.

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Orbeez.

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Having it be fixed to the bike straight ahead is genius because if it's just like a gun,

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you're just flailing it around shooting and stuff.

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But if you have to have strategy.

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Yeah, you got to actually face them, which is why I really want to try it in pairs.

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Like you actually have a wingman that you're working with because it was just two people.

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I mean, we still had a blast.

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It was just two people.

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But if I had a partner where they couldn't get behind me or someone could cut them off,

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that would be sweet.

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Dude, that is so cool.

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I don't know anything about dogfighting strategy.

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I have one data point.

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Dude, you can bring like blankets to the fight to like blind them.

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You know, you throw a blanket on somebody while they're...

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Can you imagine riding on a bike and throwing a blanket on someone?

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Tangled up in their spokes.

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Dude, it's war, man.

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I don't know what to tell you.

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War is hell.

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All right, Leo, what you got?

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All right.

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This is something that I've actually built an MVP for and have in my personal life that

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I need to, I don't know, bet against you guys and get feedback on and maybe expand into

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mass production or have someone else take and run with it.

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So Amazon has gone through a phase a couple of years ago where they made Lexa accessories

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for everybody.

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So like for every possible thing that you could glue a computer in, they had like the

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Lexa microwave and the smart whatever, right?

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One of the things that they had that was an accessory was a clock, an analog wall clock.

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And I was inspired by it the minute I saw it.

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It is a regular clock face and all along the rim of it is a bunch of white LEDs.

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And the only thing that it did was it paired directly to your echo.

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And when you set a timer, it lit up the LEDs to have a visual, always there representation

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of how much time was left on your timer.

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So like if you said set a timer for 10 minutes, it...

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Oh, God, it's a full circle around a circular analog clock.

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Okay, I got you.

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Yes, exactly.

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It's the diameter of it.

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And if you said set a timer for 10 minutes, the 12 all the way to the two would light

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up to show 10 minutes left and it would tick down, right?

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That's all it did.

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And I looked at that thing and thought, what a waste of software on beautiful hardware.

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What if we could show other stuff on this?

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So a couple of years ago, I made my own basically.

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Made your own clock?

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I took a bunch of RGB LEDs and put them around a clock.

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And I have a working prototype of color along the rim representing my Google Calendar, or

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the weather or other information.

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So when I look at this clock, if I have an event from two to three, and my Google Calendar

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is orange on the screen, then between the two and the three is lit up in orange.

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Oh, that's cool.

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Yeah, for the next 12 hours, you kind of have a quick glanceable view of what your calendar

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You don't know what it is, but you know something is during this time.

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Yeah, I'm going to be busy from noon to four this afternoon.

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Oh man, it's going to be a big long afternoon or look at that, my whole morning's free kind

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of thing.

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And it switches between that and a temperature gradient like you'd see on your local news

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where it's going to be really hot in the afternoon.

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So it's all red over down there.

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And it's really, really pretty.

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And it's functional.

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Wait, how does the temperature one work again?

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I don't get that.

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So it shows the next 12 hours, wherever the hour hand is now.

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Oh, every LED lights up with every single one of them is the correct color according

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to temperature.

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And it's a spectrum from like a dark purple all the way through blue to green to yellow,

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orange and red for how cold or hot it will be at that moment.

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So you just kind of end up with like a yellow to orange to red to orange again.

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Oh, it's going to get me pretty hot in the next few hours.

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Does temperature fluctuate that?

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I guess it does.

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Yeah.

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Enough.

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I mean, oftentimes I'll look at it as just solid yellow for the next 12 hours.

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I'm like, okay, the temperature will be steady, but that's useful too.

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And so I kind of want to make more stuff where, you know, if it's going to be raining, then

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it'll twinkle at that point or.

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Oh, on just those numbers between two to three or whatever.

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Or if it's going to be a storm, it'll like flash like lightning or something.

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Yeah.

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So there's more you can do with it.

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But I, I kind of am at the point where I don't know what the next step is other than, hey,

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I kind of made this hacky thing just for me with hard coded my calendar in it, you know,

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and it's working, it's working.

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It's right there.

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It's fantastic.

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It's that it's an Ikea clock and some Ada fruit LEDs and a little Arduino and it works

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pretty well.

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But is this something that anyone in the world but me would be interested in?

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I guess is my first question.

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I mean, it's like, I know it depends how much it costs.

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Right.

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I suppose.

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But it's like one of those cool little devices you give to a friend, right?

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They're like, like, oh, like, here you go, dude, you like weather and clocks and tech,

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you know, thrown on your wall, right?

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Wait, I know a guy.

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Every single YouTuber on the planet.

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Like the fish.

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The fish.

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The big mouth billy bass.

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Everyone knows a guy that would like the bass.

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I may have one of those on the wall right next to my clock, actually.

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I think you made him an Alexa, too, didn't you?

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Yes.

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An Alexa fish.

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When you ask the trigger word, it lifts its head and talks in sync to the voice.

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It's pretty goofy.

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Amazing.

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Yeah.

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So that's my pitch.

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Is it one ring of LEDs or multi ring?

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Right now it's just one ring and there's five LEDs per hour.

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So you couldn't have it be more of a strip if it was nicer or maybe even multiple.

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Like if you had right now, if I have an event from two to four and my wife has an event

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from three to five, the overlap is like a mix between the colors.

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So if I was red and she was blue, that it's purple in the middle, you can usually tell

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at a glance what it's doing there.

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But that took some some math.

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Yeah, I feel like if you could pick like three rings that you would have one be the calendar,

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one be the weather temperature, and then the next would be like if it's raining.

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That's where my head goes.

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Or you create like, you know, they have that in the bar graph thing where the temperature

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increases over time.

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On the Apple on the Apple weather app, like night sky does this you show dark sky, yeah,

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dark sky increases, it goes closer to the ring, the larger ring and down as temperature

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increases and decreases.

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So would you have it like is the x axis for that in the middle?

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So it's like a wave that's going out farther from the middle and then back in when it's

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getting hotter or colder?

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Yes, yes, yeah.

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You almost need like a full LCD or OLED screen, something like that.

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Put an iPad up there, all the pixels we need.

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Let's just make an Apple watch with magnifying glass, you know, or a Fitbit, you know, then

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you can make your own watch faces.

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Why don't I just tape the Google Calendar app on a tablet to my wall, and then I'm I

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can see it all the time.

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Yeah.

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No, it looks that'll look ugly as hell.

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Like the bird.

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You guys ever have those bird clocks?

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The bird every hour?

334
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Oh, yeah, they do the different chirp on each.

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Oh, yeah.

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I'll be walking through the woods one day and I'll be I'll hear a random bird be like,

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Oh my god, it's 630 or something.

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Just my childhood nostalgia flashed back.

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I'm at grandpa's house.

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Exactly.

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No, there's somebody and they had a bird clock and I didn't know it.

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I'm like, where's this bird?

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He's very on the hour.

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Just leave it in a drawer.

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There's something trapped in the wall.

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Yeah.

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Dude, that's that's what you got to add, Leo.

348
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You can bring back the the analog bird clock.

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The bird clock.

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For you know, your grandpa, your dad.

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Gen Z bird clock.

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That's right.

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That's cool.

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We have a niche product.

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How can we make it more niche?

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I downloaded the app.

357
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It's the bird app.

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It'll chirp every hour, right?

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So you got to put an app star behind it, Leo.

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Boom.

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And a speaker can have different.

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Yeah, I can't stop thinking about what the Gen Z or millennial bird clock is it like

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means on every hour?

364
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What's the equivalent on that?

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I like tortles.

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Oh, it must be noon.

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That is not a bad idea either.

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No, you have that clock and then there's like a bug in it or it got reset and somehow it's

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not linked to your account anymore.

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And so there's just like lights up there and you're like, I have something at two o'clock.

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What is it?

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You can't find it because it's not on your account.

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Something is looming.

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The Russians hacked it.

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Now it's just flashing at me.

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Right.

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I really do like the idea of just one or two rings around it.

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The simplicity of this is what makes it so good.

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Like I'm watching your clock twirl in the background.

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That's so cool.

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Every 15 seconds it switches and it does a little animation between the two.

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And it's been, you know, something that I kind of worked on for a while and haven't

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touched again.

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And I look at it every day, but I love it.

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I keep thinking, what are other pieces of data that live on a timeline that I could

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visualize like for the next 12 hours, the temperature, my calendar, the fact that you

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got your work schedule on there plus weather like that's awesome.

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I don't know.

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I think that is plenty right now as an MVP to go to market with.

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I think it's an app store.

391
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Like I like why?

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Why think of it yourself?

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You know, just let other people make the cuckoo clock sound or the, you know, the grandfather

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clock and just have people.

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Totally.

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Yeah.

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Come up with their own ideas.

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And maybe I don't go to Ikea and hot glue LEDs to the back of clocks that they sell

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anymore, but I actually get it manufactured somewhere.

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Well, now that it's on this podcast, if someone else wants to take it and productize it, I

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won't be mad.

402
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It's got to show us though.

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But maybe I'll open source what I have so far or something.

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Everything said in this podcast is copyrighted by Spitball.

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We made it three episodes in before we're super protective over ideas now.

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Just saying, we're going to sue you if you're famous.

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Episode one, we're like, anyone can have this, but episode three, we will send our lawyers.

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We're starting to like our ideas.

409
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No, we just need a royalty.

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I just want a royalty.

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Just 10%.

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A free clock, right?

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A dollar a unit.

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Venmo us what you think is fair.

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I don't know how well that Amazon clock sold, but maybe I could just buy their extra inventory

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and flash their firmware, scratch off the logo on the back and call it mine.

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That's interesting.

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I wonder if you could do that.

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If you could just straight up reflash it on there.

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It might just be an ESP32.

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All the hardware's there.

422
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Yeah, or Arduino or something.

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I don't know.

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I don't think they're colored, but you can make something.

425
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Yeah, let's go look it up.

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We'll find some Amazon warehouse bins, the dump bins and start buying clocks.

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All right, Steph, you're up.

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What do you got?

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So coming from the Midwest, we have lots of snow all the time.

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Well, you're always pushing it and shoveling it.

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And there was a really big snowstorm a couple of years ago, and there was no place for the

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snow to go.

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We were out of space.

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You couldn't even see my neighbors because the pile of snow was like eight feet high.

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And it's like a 10 foot strip of grass between our two yards.

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And we both just snowblowed together on top of the one pile between our houses.

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And there was just too much and it had nowhere to go.

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And so I thought, well, snow in frozen form has huge volume, but melted, it would take

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up a tiny bit of space.

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So what if you could shovel your snow onto this snow melter platform down at the end

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of the road that would drain into the storm drain?

442
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Then you would have no more snow.

443
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That's brilliant.

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So like a giant tarp or something, some material and spot that you shovel onto.

445
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Okay.

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What happens to in storm drains in the winter?

447
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Do those just freeze up or do they still work?

448
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Do they freeze since they're underground?

449
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I feel like I should know this.

450
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I know.

451
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They're underground.

452
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They say if you don't want your pipes to freeze to have like a pencil of water flowing, then

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it won't freeze.

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So I think storm drains don't freeze because they're always just flowing.

455
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That makes sense.

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Like some creeks.

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And so I'm picturing like a two by four heated plate or something that you would push the

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snow onto and then it would melt and then go down the drain.

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I had an aquarium with a beta fish for a couple of years and it came with a little

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like, I don't know, a little bit bigger than a credit card size, just rubber flap and a

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long cord that went right into the wall.

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And all it did was heat.

463
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Like you just stuck it in the aquarium in the rocks or whatever and it just heated stuff.

464
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You want that, but a little bigger.

465
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That's brilliant.

466
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Yeah.

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Like a heating pad for your driveway.

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For a sore back.

469
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I just want to figure out the math here.

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How much energy does it take to move a two by four block of snow equivalent?

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To melt it down, you mean?

472
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Yeah.

473
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Because like, I just keep coming back to flamethrowers on here.

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Like I just want to do a propane flamethrower, like facing right on top of that and you're

475
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just pushing snow into this open flame and then you're good to go.

476
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One can an hour or something.

477
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Or one can five minutes.

478
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Yeah.

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You could have like a snowbox and then you have the flames come down from the front and

480
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you would push it into the box.

481
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The flames would come down and melt it.

482
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I figured this was just a slow thing.

483
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So like you, at the end of the driveway here in the Midwest, we have these awful like icebergs

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that form.

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But if you just had like a strip all the way along it, it doesn't have to melt it in a

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couple of minutes.

487
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It could be like I push it onto there and then over the night or over the day, it just

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sort of slowly melts it.

489
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Okay.

490
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That might be the thing.

491
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Because if it's like an energy thing, right?

492
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:34,800
Like I can see like it costing a ton of electricity or whatever, right?

493
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:40,360
Maybe there's like, you know, when it's really hot out or like 32 degrees, snow could melt,

494
00:22:40,360 --> 00:22:41,360
right?

495
00:22:41,360 --> 00:22:46,400
If you maybe put a tarp over it or like some sort of like passive heating thing.

496
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:47,400
Totally.

497
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,280
And then you're shrinking it down, right?

498
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,280
It's like if the volume is too big, like how do you shrink it?

499
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:53,880
Maybe just a black tarp.

500
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:54,880
Is that all it takes?

501
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:56,920
Like, but it's covered.

502
00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,120
What you want is a solar like pool heat.

503
00:22:59,120 --> 00:23:05,040
You know how they have those like, yeah, you can go to a hardware store and get a big old

504
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:09,560
plastic container with black hose that just snakes through it and you set it in the sun

505
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:15,200
and add it to your pool loop and it slowly heats it with just making it warm in the sunlight.

506
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:16,200
Just from sunlight.

507
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:17,720
It's just a greenhouse and a black.

508
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:18,720
Yeah, yeah.

509
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,760
You could even make like a closed loop.

510
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:27,000
So like antifreeze, you throw antifreeze into a couple tubes, you stick them in the thing

511
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,480
and like a little just a little bit of heat, right?

512
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,320
Will slowly melt the snow over time.

513
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,560
It's got just got to be a little bit warmer than 32, right?

514
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:39,840
There was some kind of material and trying to remember what like piezo something.

515
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:43,040
It's just a it looks like a flat piece of ceramic tile.

516
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,080
If you run a current through it, one half gets really hot.

517
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:47,800
The other half gets really cold.

518
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:53,120
And just depending on how much electricity in the or the direction of the electricity,

519
00:23:53,120 --> 00:23:54,160
one of those two things will happen.

520
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,720
So like if I were to reverse the flow, the cold side would get hot and the hot side would

521
00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:58,760
get cold.

522
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:03,240
And so you could use they're not very efficient, but you could use them to make like if you

523
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:07,160
put it in a box with the walls made of this, you could either have a heater or cooler or

524
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:08,720
flip a switch and it would be the opposite.

525
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:13,840
And I'm just trying to think we made a tile platform of this ran a crap ton of electricity

526
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:14,840
through it.

527
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,160
Could the cold side just be the side facing the ground?

528
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:18,160
Yeah, exactly.

529
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:19,160
Mm hmm.

530
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:20,160
Yeah.

531
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:21,160
The cold just has to go somewhere.

532
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:25,760
You could I mean, you could channel it out to wherever you want or up in the air or something.

533
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:27,040
Interesting, man.

534
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:35,080
OK, I'm thinking simple firewood, water or something like how do you how do you bring

535
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:39,440
it like I just think that there's got to be another solution besides an outlet that you

536
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,440
an extension cord that you run out there.

537
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:43,440
Propane.

538
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:49,720
Well, I was wondering how much solar energy like we're talking about, like how much heat

539
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:54,720
do you need and how much energy does that take to melt the lower layer?

540
00:24:54,720 --> 00:25:01,720
And then would solar be enough like sorry, shot in the dark here.

541
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,720
OK, compost piles.

542
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,720
All right.

543
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:11,080
OK, in December, in December, stay hot.

544
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:12,720
No, they stay hot.

545
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:13,920
The comp really.

546
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:14,920
Yeah.

547
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,480
If you go around, there were houses on Mackinac that used to heat themselves through the winter

548
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:22,920
using just what from the like the gas, maybe.

549
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:28,400
No, it's just the the reaction, the chemical reactions going on of a bunch of little microbes

550
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,920
in there eating and pooping is enough to generate heat.

551
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:32,920
What?

552
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:33,920
Yes.

553
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:41,080
OK, could you have your compost be in a hole in the ground and its lid is flush with the

554
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:46,120
ground then and it's like putting off the heat and that's what you shovel the snow onto

555
00:25:46,120 --> 00:25:49,520
water piping heat pile.

556
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:53,560
OK, somehow get the OK, maybe figure this out.

557
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,480
We'll figure this out with like the engineers.

558
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:59,720
We'll hire the engineers to figure this out.

559
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:00,720
Wave your hands a little bit.

560
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,680
We got a compost pile over here.

561
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,680
We have a snow pile over here.

562
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:10,120
How do we bring the heat from here to there?

563
00:26:10,120 --> 00:26:16,320
OK, Steph's about to blow our minds.

564
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:20,040
So I think I've had this conversation with Leo before.

565
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:27,080
We've argued about when you use the oven and you're done cooking, whatever you're cooking,

566
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:31,640
do you leave the door open and have it heat your house or do you leave it closed?

567
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:37,160
But he said, where does the heat go if the door is closed?

568
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:45,120
Well, what if you could have a fan blow that extra heat from the oven out there because

569
00:26:45,120 --> 00:26:46,680
you're cooking more in the winter?

570
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:47,680
That's brilliant.

571
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:51,400
Yes, Steph, I don't know if you're joking or if that's just the most genius idea I've

572
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:52,400
heard today.

573
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:58,080
You could probably pull heat from addicts in the winter, right?

574
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:03,640
Well, because our company, they have heated sidewalks in some places because it's using

575
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,600
the excess heat from somewhere.

576
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,400
So I was like, well, what is a heat source in your house?

577
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,200
OK, another idea.

578
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:11,960
Sorry to take this.

579
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:19,400
OK, you know how you run your AC in the summer and you heat your house in the winter?

580
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,120
Yeah, I'm with you.

581
00:27:22,120 --> 00:27:23,120
No.

582
00:27:23,120 --> 00:27:25,680
OK, store it old school.

583
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:32,680
OK, why get rid of why get rid of something that's totally useful in the summer?

584
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:39,400
Yes, instead of having the melted snow because snow in itself has big volume.

585
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:43,680
Well, melted to a liquid instead of putting it down the storm drain, you make it into

586
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,680
cubes and leave it outside to refreeze it.

587
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,920
And then those are the cubes that you set in your house to cool it in the summer.

588
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,080
Just hold on to them for a few months.

589
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:54,120
There's a real thing.

590
00:27:54,120 --> 00:27:55,520
They're called ice houses.

591
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,920
We're just back to the 1800s.

592
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:00,280
What's wrong with that?

593
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,200
That's free energy, baby.

594
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,440
Like in Texas, we could.

595
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:08,560
The old freezers are called ice boxes because you just put a cube of ice in there.

596
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:09,560
Boom.

597
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:14,280
I'm just I'm just wondering why we in Michigan, but any Midwest city, you would ever have

598
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:20,480
an AC unit if we could just figure out how to store these mountains of snow.

599
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:25,600
OK, as insane amounts of snow, they do this enough.

600
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:26,600
What is it like?

601
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:32,080
Some manufacturing plant will run the run an ice machine all night because it's energy

602
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,600
efficient so that they keep the.

603
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,360
Have you heard about this?

604
00:28:36,360 --> 00:28:40,440
It's more energy efficient to make the ice at night because the electricity is cheaper

605
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,360
at night so that they can use it throughout the day.

606
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:44,360
Yes.

607
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:45,360
So it's not more energy efficient.

608
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:46,360
It's just cheap.

609
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:47,360
People do this.

610
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:48,360
It's cheaper.

611
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:49,360
Yeah.

612
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,360
Well, there's free ice every year.

613
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,360
I don't know.

614
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,960
I just I'm like it's a wasted resource, man.

615
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,400
It's free resource falling from the sky.

616
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:05,160
We just free cooling, free heat, free cooling, dude.

617
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:06,160
I don't know.

618
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,840
Can we turn it into energy?

619
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:15,560
So our roofs sometimes around here have those little like melty snake things that keep the

620
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,440
ice dams from forming.

621
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:18,620
How do those work?

622
00:29:18,620 --> 00:29:19,880
This is just that.

623
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:20,880
Right.

624
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,400
But in a place I always thought that was electricity.

625
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:24,400
That's what I mean.

626
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,520
I'm coming back to the beginning here.

627
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:30,280
Are those really that expensive to operate that we're trying to figure out ways to store

628
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:31,760
ice for six months?

629
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,120
Like why don't we just plug it in?

630
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:34,120
I don't know.

631
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,040
How are those not super expensive?

632
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:42,040
I guess I just feel like the amount of calories it takes to melt snow is like crazy.

633
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:43,040
Like it just it's way.

634
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:44,040
All right.

635
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:45,040
I'm going to go to chat.

636
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,840
You be the fifth podcast guest.

637
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,560
I need to Google this.

638
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,240
We don't Google things anymore, Stephanie.

639
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:55,840
How much energy?

640
00:29:55,840 --> 00:30:00,720
Googling is so 2021.

641
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:01,720
And first half of 2022.

642
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,560
Large language models are where it's at.

643
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:04,560
They will be our engineer.

644
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:05,560
All right.

645
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,720
What about snow compression?

646
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,240
Compress the snow.

647
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:10,240
Into ice.

648
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:11,560
Is that water?

649
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:17,880
I wonder if you like simultaneously heat and compress snow into giant ice blocks.

650
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:18,880
Yeah.

651
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,000
Compressing stuff heats it up, right?

652
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:25,480
So you guys ever remember those graphs in physics where it's like, here's the three

653
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,880
states of water and you have the center point and whatnot.

654
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,360
I think if we compress it, it's just going to turn back into water at that point.

655
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:36,080
And then it goes down the drain.

656
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,180
We're trying to make it go from solid to liquid here, Scott.

657
00:30:39,180 --> 00:30:44,560
Can you use the weight of the snow to compress snow to melt snow?

658
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,000
This idea has got legs.

659
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:50,360
When I was growing up, we had I had grandparents who their main trash in their kitchen was

660
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:51,640
a big trash compactor.

661
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,520
You closed it and every few minutes, not a few minutes, every few days or whatever, you

662
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,400
press the button and it's smashed into a little cube.

663
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,440
I thought it was the coolest thing.

664
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:00,520
We just need that.

665
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:04,440
But for snow and then it turns it into ice and drains or into water and drains out the

666
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:05,920
bottom into the storm drain.

667
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:06,920
Right.

668
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:07,920
Yeah.

669
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:09,920
How much pressure do you need?

670
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:10,920
Yeah.

671
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,080
I just asked chat that chat GPT that it's called pressure melting.

672
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,200
Apparently, it is very much a thing.

673
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,840
Is it hard to do?

674
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,960
When I park my car on top of the snow, what compress?

675
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,280
Oh, I'm thinking of ways to use your way.

676
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:27,280
Use the cars.

677
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:28,280
Yeah.

678
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,400
Or like, yeah, something like that.

679
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:32,400
Why not?

680
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:33,400
Hmm.

681
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,040
So, your whole driveway is a big pad.

682
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,240
You shovel the snow.

683
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:39,240
What?

684
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:40,240
Yeah.

685
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,840
Like, what if you I don't know, instead of.

686
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:43,840
All right, here we go.

687
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:44,840
I got it.

688
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:45,840
Car sized box.

689
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:47,280
Car sized box.

690
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:52,960
When you're not in your driveway, it is up at ground level.

691
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,020
One of the sides of the box is ramp.

692
00:31:55,020 --> 00:32:01,880
You shovel all of the snow into that drive up onto box, which pushes it down and compresses

693
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:03,160
it and liquidizes it.

694
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,280
And then it goes through your house's plumbing out to the sewer lines.

695
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:07,280
Boom.

696
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:15,360
Like, I know it sounds like is this sounds like it's possible between pressure like pressure

697
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:16,920
should melt snow.

698
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,840
We're going to get like a single email with like three lines of math being like, you guys

699
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:21,840
are stupid.

700
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:26,120
Well, ask that guy to solve this problem then.

701
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:27,120
All right.

702
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:28,560
At least we're trying over here.

703
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,520
This would take enough electricity to power Las Vegas for eight years.

704
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:33,520
Okay.

705
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:34,880
But my driveway is clean.

706
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:35,880
That's right.

707
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:42,480
All right, Russell, let's see what you've got now.

708
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:43,880
All right.

709
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,520
So I'm going to do a dating app, I think again.

710
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:47,520
Hell yeah.

711
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:48,520
Russell's Love Corner.

712
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,040
I'm a married man.

713
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:51,040
Every other episode.

714
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:52,040
Russell's Love Corner episode two.

715
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:53,040
I'm in.

716
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:54,440
We need a sound for that.

717
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,440
Welcome back to Russell.

718
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,760
Can you say welcome back to Russell's Love Corner?

719
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,520
Welcome back to Russell's Love Corner.

720
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,520
Brown chicken, brown cow.

721
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,600
Hit us up.

722
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,880
I'm so excited.

723
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:14,080
So you know, I've got a many dating app ideas, but as a married man, I will never do them.

724
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,720
As we previously established, married men cannot invent dating apps.

725
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:18,720
That's right.

726
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,320
Like watch me.

727
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,200
This is my favorite dating app.

728
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,160
It's called Sonder.

729
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:27,160
Okay.

730
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:32,360
If anybody's seen, there's like this viral YouTube video about how you pass people all

731
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:40,120
the time and their lives are just so intrinsically complex, like your own, I don't know, this

732
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:47,120
deep BS that tells people like, hey, when you pass somebody on the road, like especially

733
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:52,600
in a major city, it's just kind of crazy how that person that you'll never see again is

734
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,760
going to live their entire life and you will never see them again.

735
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:56,760
All right.

736
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:57,760
Okay.

737
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:02,960
So the dating app, all right, takes that concept and says, all right, whenever you pass people

738
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:07,560
that are single and on the app, you kind of match, right?

739
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:08,560
It's a light match.

740
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,440
You don't actually get to know each other.

741
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:11,440
It's just a light match.

742
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:17,320
And the more instances where you're passing people, you get more hits, right?

743
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:21,080
And eventually the more hits you get with people, the more likely you are to match with

744
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:22,080
them.

745
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,760
This is a concept that actually Nintendo DS did.

746
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:26,760
Street pass.

747
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:27,760
That's what I was thinking of too.

748
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:31,120
I don't know what this is.

749
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:32,120
It's insane.

750
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:36,440
You, if you had your Nintendo DS in your pocket and you walk by another person that had a

751
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:42,680
Nintendo DS in their pocket, you would exchange information and like get points and like special

752
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,360
prizes and stuff in your game.

753
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:46,360
Right.

754
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:47,880
And it was sick.

755
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:53,440
You could, what was also crazy is if you went to like certain wifi hotspots, right, you

756
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:57,960
would pass with multiple people at that wifi hotspot.

757
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:05,460
And so basically now this dating app is not a swipe and be it's matching with people that

758
00:35:05,460 --> 00:35:10,840
do similar stuff as you that you would normally pass by in life.

759
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,520
Oh, so I'm putting all my interests on here ahead of time.

760
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:18,400
Like I like sailing or I like, no, whatever.

761
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:24,680
No, you are living your best life and connecting to wifi hotspots and you're passing by other

762
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:25,680
people's phones.

763
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:26,680
Right.

764
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,360
And every time.

765
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:33,160
So if you and some other girl go to the same Kroger every week, it'll match you and you

766
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:37,680
just miss each other like by one minute.

767
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:42,200
Like let's say you go on the same commute every day to nearly the same spot, to the

768
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,280
same gym, but you're always off by one hour.

769
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:46,280
Right.

770
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,960
Talk about that one small town girl living in a lonely world.

771
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:56,480
Like imagine you just missed that your life partner, because you take the train 10 minutes

772
00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:00,840
after them, you go to the gym one hour after them.

773
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:01,840
Right.

774
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:05,240
So you have like the perfect life together.

775
00:36:05,240 --> 00:36:11,760
This app would solve that through wifi hotspots and passing by people.

776
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,920
So now we're matching people on.

777
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:19,440
So like it kind of incentivizes the more you do, the more you're likely you're to match.

778
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:20,440
Right.

779
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:24,960
So if you go to concerts, you go to events and how cool would it be if 10 years down

780
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,880
the road you're like, Whoa, I match with you.

781
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:34,720
We passed each other a hundred times, never saw each other until this moment.

782
00:36:34,720 --> 00:36:35,720
Right.

783
00:36:35,720 --> 00:36:38,920
Until we started having the, like, this goes beyond dating app almost.

784
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,480
This is like cool for life also.

785
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,840
Like I would love to like have a friend that I meet down the road.

786
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,840
I'm like, Whoa, let's see if we pass each other like a million times.

787
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:52,960
Like I don't know, but all I have to say is I feel like the dating app version would be

788
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:57,840
way cool because it just matches people more authentically.

789
00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,120
Right.

790
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:00,120
That's it.

791
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:01,120
I love this.

792
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:06,920
So I need to credit a guy named Shannon, C H A N N O N Perry, who wrote a blog post last

793
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,680
fall, actually about a year ago today in August of 2022.

794
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:18,440
This person took their Google history, their location history, which they had about 10

795
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:22,440
years worth of and their partners, and they overlapped it and did a bunch of math and

796
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:28,480
Python and learned that before they met, they had 33 times that they were within a hundred

797
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:35,320
meters of each other and talked about like, there were 2,700 something coordinates that

798
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,440
were both recorded at the same point in time, but it only lasted for a moment.

799
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:39,600
I was at university.

800
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:44,120
They were working near at the time and stuff, but here were the 33 near misses.

801
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,360
And over here at this spot over here, it happened many times and stuff.

802
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:53,360
I'll put the link in the show notes, but this exact idea, you could, you could even leverage

803
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,080
Google's existing location history.

804
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,840
So you don't have to like start from ground zero and begin, but even say like straight

805
00:37:58,840 --> 00:37:59,840
up imported.

806
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:00,840
Yeah.

807
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:04,600
You begin your journey in your cool new app by importing where you've been for the last

808
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:05,600
10 years.

809
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:06,600
Yeah.

810
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:07,600
All that.

811
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,760
See how many near misses you've already had with people.

812
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:13,920
It's like time hop, but time travel.

813
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:15,560
Time hop, but with friends.

814
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:16,560
Time hop with friends.

815
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:17,560
Yeah.

816
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,360
And, and distances, right?

817
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:20,800
Like in geography.

818
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:21,800
Strangers.

819
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:22,800
Time hop with strangers.

820
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:23,800
Yeah.

821
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:24,800
Dude.

822
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,200
That'd be so cool.

823
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,360
That would be really cool.

824
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:29,800
Even outside of dating apps.

825
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:31,720
Like I'd love to see that for random people.

826
00:38:31,720 --> 00:38:32,920
Like have we ever met before?

827
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:33,920
Do I know you?

828
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,360
You always hear those stories of like, wow, I'm in the background of my now wife's Disney

829
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,120
photos when they were on vacation or whatever.

830
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:41,120
Yeah.

831
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:42,120
There's probably way more of that.

832
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,280
When they're both like eight years old or something.

833
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:45,280
Right.

834
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:50,600
When it's harder to fake, cause you know, you can put on your Tinder profile like, oh,

835
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:54,480
I like reading and you know, biking.

836
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:59,160
But this is actually like, okay, are they actually going out biking or?

837
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:00,840
Do you like hiking?

838
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:01,840
Have you been hiking?

839
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:07,720
Or like, oh, my GPS says you haven't left your house in four weeks.

840
00:39:07,720 --> 00:39:09,560
You'd be perfect for this person though.

841
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:10,920
They live next door.

842
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:12,760
They never leave their house.

843
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:17,000
What helped inspire this app is because I know, as I said before, my wife's friends

844
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,120
are very single.

845
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:25,160
Any guys living on the, you know, listening to this podcast, I got some hookups.

846
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,400
They don't, sometimes they don't leave the house.

847
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:29,400
Sometimes they don't do anything.

848
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:33,440
And I'm like, oh, so your chances of meeting anybody are zero.

849
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,640
And they're like, oh, they don't want to be on any dating apps.

850
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:39,200
Oh, well then your chances are like negative zero.

851
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:40,440
Well then here's Sondra.

852
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:41,440
Right.

853
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:42,440
Yeah, exactly.

854
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:46,480
So if you're looking for anything, just run the app on your phone and you will find your

855
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,800
perfect match just by living your life.

856
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:49,800
Right.

857
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:50,800
I don't know.

858
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,080
Like, well, hopefully, right.

859
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,400
Do something, walk your dog, go to the dog park.

860
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,120
I don't know anything.

861
00:39:56,120 --> 00:40:00,000
And you will get matches with people that do similar things that you do.

862
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:05,120
And now your first date is something you already do.

863
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,120
You don't have to figure it out.

864
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:08,120
Right.

865
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:09,120
Or you at least have stuff to talk about.

866
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:10,120
Oh, man.

867
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,240
You also once a month go over to the whatever.

868
00:40:12,240 --> 00:40:13,240
Yeah.

869
00:40:13,240 --> 00:40:14,240
I remember going over there recently, too.

870
00:40:14,240 --> 00:40:15,240
Yeah.

871
00:40:15,240 --> 00:40:16,240
Oh, wow.

872
00:40:16,240 --> 00:40:17,240
I didn't even think about that.

873
00:40:17,240 --> 00:40:19,400
This is great, man.

874
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,400
We have the same chiropractor.

875
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:27,480
It was love at first sight.

876
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:28,480
Yeah.

877
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,720
I hate when he cracks my back that way.

878
00:40:31,720 --> 00:40:32,720
Yeah, I know.

879
00:40:32,720 --> 00:40:33,720
Me too.

880
00:40:33,720 --> 00:40:34,720
We're in love.

881
00:40:34,720 --> 00:40:37,640
Hating on the chiropractor for the whole first date.

882
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:38,640
So how'd you meet?

883
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:43,560
Well, we met like 80 times and we didn't even know it.

884
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:44,560
This is I like this.

885
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,720
This is really fun.

886
00:40:46,720 --> 00:40:54,160
It's my favorite idea that I will never launch like this is like, but hopefully somebody

887
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:58,720
does so I can just install it on my phone and then be done with my life.

888
00:40:58,720 --> 00:41:01,240
Can you make this so I can have the friend version?

889
00:41:01,240 --> 00:41:02,240
Right.

890
00:41:02,240 --> 00:41:03,240
Not the dating app version.

891
00:41:03,240 --> 00:41:04,240
Right.

892
00:41:04,240 --> 00:41:05,240
Yeah.

893
00:41:05,240 --> 00:41:06,240
Just I want to meet new people.

894
00:41:06,240 --> 00:41:07,240
That's great.

895
00:41:07,240 --> 00:41:08,240
Yeah.

896
00:41:08,240 --> 00:41:09,240
I'm going to make it a fair.

897
00:41:09,240 --> 00:41:10,240
Okay.

898
00:41:10,240 --> 00:41:11,240
Got it.

899
00:41:11,240 --> 00:41:12,240
Please.

900
00:41:12,240 --> 00:41:13,240
A fair free.

901
00:41:13,240 --> 00:41:14,240
Can I have the affair free version?

902
00:41:14,240 --> 00:41:18,880
Now it's $10 a month.

903
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:19,880
No affairs.

904
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:24,080
Sorry, married men and women.

905
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,680
The terms and conditions are going to be very confusing.

906
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:33,240
So kind of like that where you're talking about location based alerts and communication

907
00:41:33,240 --> 00:41:38,400
is I was wondering when you started to talk if it would have been you are somewhere and

908
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,600
it alerts you that someone single is nearby.

909
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,840
I'm like, would it tell you who it is?

910
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,400
Or would it just be like, oh, someone single is nearby.

911
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:47,400
Just chat up everyone.

912
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:52,760
You know, I could see an entire YouTube channel dedicated to guys getting that notification

913
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:57,840
on their phone and just be looking up like groundhogs all around them.

914
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:01,800
I would watch that all day a compilation of that.

915
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,040
So is it bumbled where the women choose first?

916
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:05,040
Yeah.

917
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:06,040
The women speak first or whatever.

918
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:10,160
You have that where the men you have to specify, but when you get the app set up, the men can

919
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,720
only receive notifications and the women can only send them and they can press one button

920
00:42:13,720 --> 00:42:16,280
and everyone in the area is just notified.

921
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,640
They just get pinged.

922
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,000
Send out a pulse.

923
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:21,640
12 dudes.

924
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:25,880
The woman pulls out the app and it's like, there are 41 dudes around you who will be

925
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:26,880
notified.

926
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:27,880
You press the button.

927
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:28,960
That's brilliant.

928
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:30,320
I think that has something.

929
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,880
I think you could tap into that a little bit.

930
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:37,720
Like if I'm going out with friends and I want to like have somebody approach me, but that's

931
00:42:37,720 --> 00:42:38,720
something like that.

932
00:42:38,720 --> 00:42:39,720
I think that's a different dating app.

933
00:42:39,720 --> 00:42:40,720
I think that's a different one.

934
00:42:40,720 --> 00:42:41,720
Yeah, probably.

935
00:42:41,720 --> 00:42:42,720
Save that for next week's dating app.

936
00:42:42,720 --> 00:42:43,720
That's another one.

937
00:42:43,720 --> 00:42:44,720
Yeah.

938
00:42:44,720 --> 00:42:45,720
Russell's Love Corner.

939
00:42:45,720 --> 00:42:50,600
Tune in next week to Russell's Love Corner.

940
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,640
Oh yeah.

941
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:54,360
Well thank you very much for listening this week.

942
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:55,720
We hope you enjoyed yourself.

943
00:42:55,720 --> 00:42:57,160
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944
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:58,160
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945
00:42:58,160 --> 00:42:59,600
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946
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,880
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947
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:03,600
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