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I'm Scott.

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I'm Russell.

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I'm Leo.

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I'm Jackie.

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This is Spitball.

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Welcome to Spitball, where three prototype pioneers and a guest empty their heads of

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startup and tech product ideas that we have stuck up in there so you can all have them

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for free.

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Anything that we say is yours to keep.

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Scott, I believe you brought our guest this week.

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I

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did.

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Our guest this week is none other than my little sister, Jackie.

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Hello.

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Hi.

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Yay.

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Jackie's a world traveler, a master's in food science and has worked on everything

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food related from perfecting alcohol and coffee manufacturing to literally designing

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astronaut diets as they orbit the earth.

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So welcome Jackie.

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Hey, I'm excited.

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This is going to be a good time.

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So not only did I bring the guests this week, but in honor of Jackie as the food

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scientists I'm also gonna kick us off with the warm-up game and this is a

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game I'd like to call feast or fabrication. Okay. Oh

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you guys ever watch

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Fact or Fiction?

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Alright so in this game I'm gonna be giving you each a tech

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related fad diet and I want you to tell me if this is a real diet that actually

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exists or something that I just made up. There's so

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many. There were so many.

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Oh shoot.

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Alright okay.

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Cool. So

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as Leah would say as always we shall start off

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with our guest Jackie.

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Okay.

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All right, Jackie. The

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DNA Diet,

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a eating plan that's customized

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based on genetic testing to optimize your metabolism. True?

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That's definitely true.

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That is true. Launched in 2016, DNA uses genetic testing to create everything cater around

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your food sensitivities and nutrition needs.

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Incredible. Does it say what the starting

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price on that is?

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Nope. I was

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too afraid to look.

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Rich Silicon Valley.

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Yeah. Is there

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a lot of difference between nutrient uptake between two random people off the

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street?

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Jackie,

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I guess you would notice.

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You said it's for food sensitivities, Scott?

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That would make more

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sense.

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Food sensitivities, nutrition needs, and optimizing your metabolism.

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But there's definitely easier...

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DNA, so they're implying that they're, what, like, figuring out your genome to give you

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the diet?

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Because there's definitely easier ways to find out

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food sensitivity.

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My service has a checkbox that says gluten-free, yes or no,

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and then same thing.

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All right, Leo, the Smart Fork Diet

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uses a fork that vibrates when you eat too quickly,

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forcing you to slow down.

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Well, I think I know the product.

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It was called the Happy Fork.

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We talked about it

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in a previous episode.

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But I don't know if that was--

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are you asking if that's like a diet thing too?

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service around it?

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A diet

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based on it.

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It was more of

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does this exist?

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A diet based on it.

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I'm going to say the

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diet doesn't exist.

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I think you made that up.

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- You are correct.

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Happy

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fork hit CES in 2013.

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I think you were there that year.

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Promoted as a

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mindfulness tool for weight loss

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and better

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digestion.

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- Wow.

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- Shout out to Joanna Stern of the Wall Street Journal

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for relentlessly making fun of that

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for like a year straight.

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I remember it very well.

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It was very funny.

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- Russell, the algorithm diet.

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AI analyzes your social media activity

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and determine which food will make you happiest each day.

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- What?

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- What?

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- Happiest.

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It's fried chicken every day.

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chicken nuggets every day.

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Wait, how does it get that from your social media feed?

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I'm going to say this is false.

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It's definitely false.

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It could work though.

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Give it like

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another year and we'll be there.

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You seem like you're in a chicken soup

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day or whatever.

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Here's some cookies

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for you delivered and sponsored by Mrs.

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Fields.

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All right, Jackie, round two, the ASMR diet.

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Listen to specific food crunching sounds through headphones before meals to

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trigger a pre-satisfy signals.

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You're supposed to whisper that one.

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Oh, sorry.

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These are really interesting.

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I'm going to slip my drink

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into the microphone one sec.

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I think it's just because there's

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so much money that goes into sensory science,

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I think it's real.

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That one is false, but we should probably start that one.

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That's a good pitch.

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That's incredible.

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That's fun.

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Interesting.

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All right.

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Leo, the HCG diet app.

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Track your 500 calorie daily limit

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while taking hormone injections, all

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managed through your smartphone.

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500 calories seems a little low. It's so specific though. I'm gonna say that's real.

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It dates back to early 2010s. Wow!

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And I pushed it on the FDA homepage, which they flag it

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as a quote "very unsafe."

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It's the Elon Musk diet.

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That's what Elon did, right?

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500. Oh, man. You're supposed to give yourself injections? Is that what you said? It's

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all part of it. Wow.

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All right, Russell, the Soylent Diet.

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Replace all traditional food with engineered nutritional shake designed by Silicon Valley

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software engineers.

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That's 100% true.

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That is absolutely true.

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Because I wanted to do this.

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You did something like this, right, Scott?

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Yeah, I thought about it.

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variations of them.

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Designed as a replacement shake to maximize efficiency and very embraced by Silicon Valley

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who hated meal prep.

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- I know.

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- One of the few joys in life

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that you're just gonna turn into like sludge.

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you wanna have slop from the trough, are you sure?

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- All right, last round.

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Jackie, the virtual reality diet.

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Wear VR headsets while eating small portions

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to trick your brain into experiencing more satisfying meals.

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- No, that's not real.

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- That one is true.

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Wow, 2017, early experiments

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of Tokyo showed that VR could actually alter portion perception.

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This is all before Ozempic came out.

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this was pre-Ozempic.

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funding's been pulled.

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Leo, the pixel diet.

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All food must be cut into perfect squares and arranged in grid patterns to optimize visual processing, helping to reduce consumption.

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adorable.

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I thought you'd like that one.

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I'm going to say you made that up.

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I definitely made that up.

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I don't know how that would help, but I kind of want to do that just for my kids now.

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like smiley face pancakes or whatever.

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It's a grid of pixels.

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No, dad, I don't.

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Maybe a cool meal plan thing that you

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could buy for somebody for a gift for a few months.

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I'm not calorie

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I'm pixel peeping.

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Minecraft movie came out.

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All right, last one.

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Russell, the sunlight only diet.

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Created by Indian gurus through intense training and meditation,

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the human body can survive without food or water

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- There's no way.

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- I was actually inconclusive on this one

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'cause it was found in a documentary

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trying to replicate it.

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- Yeesh.

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- Why Swiss women?

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- Low battery.

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- This game reminded me of, have you ever seen Vogue's,

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- And the most infamous one was the egg and wine diet.

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- Oh, mixed together?

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Okay, this was the diet.

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one bottle is allowed per day.

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finish it up.

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- It's awesome.

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bottle a day.

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- It's great.

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- I have no idea how many days

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you're supposed to try it for.

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- This is what you do

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- Who won?

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You were keeping track, right?

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I realize how

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hard that is to do,

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Leo.

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- It's hard, I never

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remember.

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- I'm gonna start keeping track for you from now on.

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- Okay.

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- Leo, I do believe that you won this one though.

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if you want to kick us off this week.

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OK, I can do

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that, sure.

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All right, so this one's a little bit out there,

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and it's a little bit for the millennials and older.

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So many of us have fond nostalgia

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for the early days of the internet.

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I remember high school, college, when

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like Advice Animals and Scumbag Steve and all

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these meme templates and things were the hottest

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thing on the internet.

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I think it would be fun to--

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you can put a quarter in the jar,

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or you can just have this be handwritten.

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Create a news site that's entirely made of memes,

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where you're getting actual New York Times

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or Wall Street Journal or whatever headlines,

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but delivered entirely,

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we need a middle ground between satire, the onion,

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the click holes of the world,

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and like, I'm reading the Harvard Review again, right?

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- Okay, Leo, this already exists.

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- Tell me more.

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- So there's this Instagram account that I follow.

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I don't remember

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the username, but I'll find it,

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But that's

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essentially

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it.

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They give the

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headliners.

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And that-- did I just ruin the whole show?

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No,

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not at all.

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[LAUGHTER]

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You're trying to get next week, guys.

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[INTERPOSING VOICES]

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This is like two episodes

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ago to me.

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I need to do more frickin' research.

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No, no, we can Spitball off this.

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Keep going.

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You think so?

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OK, so

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I

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can't check off news

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site made of only memes?

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OK.

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It's Instagram.

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Go ahead, Jackie.

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I don't know.

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I don't know the username off the top of my

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head.

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I'll have

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to find it.

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But there's probably two accounts that I follow.

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- Okay, okay.

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- And yeah, they take the biggest headlines

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and then they just apply them

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to like pop culture references or memes

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and then connect the two somehow

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to make the delivery more entertaining.

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- That's great.

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- And then it is happening that the accounts are,

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you can find the more conservative accounts

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or you can find the more left-leaning meme accounts.

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- That's amazing.

359
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Well, yeah, I know that there's like memeing the news

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and that's a trend that happens on social medias in general.

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I

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want to

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not pollute whatever social timelines

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that I have already with news.

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I really like that I have snarky tech bloggers

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and comedians and musicians and stuff

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and I have a pretty good algorithm

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going.

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And I also want to be able to engage

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and then pull the rip cord and be done.

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So I think I wanna put this in some kind of website.

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Maybe it's my homepage, maybe it's like a--

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- No, exactly, and like you can even just pull

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all these Instagram accounts that post

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and

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feed your content

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into your content network.

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- Just embed them all or something, yeah.

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You want to be able to like kick him back.

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- If you want. - That's

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interesting.

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Maybe you want to build like an aggregator.

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- I'm just picturing the New York Times like homepage.

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I'm looking at it right now.

385
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And it's, you know, it's all very serious and professional,

386
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but just everything is a meme going down

387
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in the same formatting. - Yes, yes.

388
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- I would love that. - Me too.

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And there's something about the structure

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of an actual news site that I find appealing.

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Like it's built into sections.

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It's got like layouts and structure in a way where like,

393
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just a random person making a meme

394
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about the news in my time.

395
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Sure, we've all experienced that,

396
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but I want this to be a dedicated experience, you know?

397
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And maybe there is a slider for liberal or conservative,

398
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or maybe there is a slider for local

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versus worldwide or something, I don't know.

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- And then if it's a zone site,

401
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you get less whiplash than when you're scrolling

402
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through your Instagram feed and you get some

403
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breaking, devastating news,

404
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and then you just keep scrolling.

405
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- Oh, yeah.

406
00:11:45,060 --> 00:11:47,600
Yeah, I feel like my peers are starting

407
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to disengage with the news a bit,

408
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and I am myself included.

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I don't really, I need to pick and choose my battles

410
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Nowadays for like what I want to get mad about right and if it was conveyed to me like a dog getting his medicine with

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Peanut butter or something

412
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where it's like,

413
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hey, here's a little bit of fun that can go with it. I think that would help me

414
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personally

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I

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Feel like we're gonna hit some stories that are just gonna be impossible no matter how much of me

417
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What happened to the refugees? Oh,

418
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it'll be a valley. I don't know. We

419
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should joke about that or whatever bag Steve

420
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You could really make a too soon set of memes like that's just the whole new site. It's just like yikes

421
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That was a little too soon

422
00:12:28,820 --> 00:12:30,500
Just like soon dot meme. That's

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yeah, like like

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all those 9/11 memes being in like nine during 9/11

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Oh my

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god,

427
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that is I mean, they're wildly inappropriate

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I feel like for our generation

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But it's like you can have a whole site and there might just be enough people out there be like it's like the onion shock

430
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value. You know, people are like, "Eww." But, "Oh my gosh, it's kind of

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funny."

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A core goal of the project would be to come out of it informing people, right? Even if they only

433
00:12:55,940 --> 00:13:01,480
got a headline and a gist. You want that to be not just conspiracy theories and jokes upon jokes

434
00:13:01,580 --> 00:13:05,440
upon jokes where it's eight layers deep and doesn't actually correlate to real world happenings. I

435
00:13:05,460 --> 00:13:07,760
want this to be a social good, you know?

436
00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,760
Oh, a social good. Okay. So it's got to...

437
00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:12,640
- Russell's like, "I'm out."

438
00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:13,320
- Can't just make it worse.

439
00:13:14,220 --> 00:13:16,900
- Oh, we can't just flush the entire world down the toilet?

440
00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:17,620
(laughing)

441
00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:18,880
- Everyone's already doing that

442
00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:19,200
right now.

443
00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:20,100
- Yeah. - It's true.

444
00:13:20,820 --> 00:13:23,440
- This is a tool for informing people.

445
00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:24,680
- Through memes. - Through memes.

446
00:13:25,100 --> 00:13:26,920
- Yeah, I'll find the Instagram account and then,

447
00:13:27,540 --> 00:13:29,220
it's called Saint Hoax.

448
00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:29,820
- Okay.

449
00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,920
- And it has 3.4 million followers on Instagram.

450
00:13:33,300 --> 00:13:35,040
- All right, we need to take stuff like Saint Hoax.

451
00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:35,140
- And

452
00:13:35,140 --> 00:13:38,100
it's just this one person that makes the account.

453
00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:41,080
- Oh, I've seen a lot of these.

454
00:13:41,180 --> 00:13:42,660
I didn't realize this is all from here.

455
00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,860
- Yeah, it's always like the same neon green header.

456
00:13:46,860 --> 00:13:48,680
- I also realized going into this

457
00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,020
that every generation's gonna have a different definition

458
00:13:51,140 --> 00:13:51,960
of the word meme.

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00:13:52,580 --> 00:13:52,720
I'm

460
00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:53,620
thinking--

461
00:13:53,680 --> 00:13:55,480
- Like 2000s memes. - Culture of like, yeah,

462
00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:55,960
yeah.

463
00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:57,300
Weird proto

464
00:13:57,300 --> 00:14:00,240
memes where it's impact font in all caps

465
00:14:00,300 --> 00:14:01,700
on top of a penguin or whatever.

466
00:14:02,300 --> 00:14:04,180
I feel like, well, maybe there's different sections

467
00:14:04,220 --> 00:14:06,740
of the paper and the settings of it and stuff

468
00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,600
where like this website's able to, you know,

469
00:14:10,140 --> 00:14:10,640
generation

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00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:12,900
boomer

471
00:14:12,900 --> 00:14:13,460
means get

472
00:14:13,460 --> 00:14:16,540
it we hate our wives and also here's what happened

473
00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,540
with the tariffs today okay I don't get it

474
00:14:19,540 --> 00:14:23,840
you got Dilbert for

475
00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:24,700
the gen Xers

476
00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:26,320
there you go

477
00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,800
right blondie

478
00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:28,960
or

479
00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,020
whatever like oh that's

480
00:14:31,020 --> 00:14:32,160
that's like inappropriate

481
00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,260
is Dilbert but the first meme

482
00:14:34,260 --> 00:14:38,780
the comic section you

483
00:14:38,780 --> 00:14:40,120
were big into comics right

484
00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,160
- Do you get comics every, Scott, like delivered to you?

485
00:14:43,460 --> 00:14:43,620
Right?

486
00:14:44,140 --> 00:14:45,300
- Yeah, our mom would

487
00:14:45,300 --> 00:14:46,920
send me comics in college

488
00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:48,920
'cause I always loved them growing up.

489
00:14:49,140 --> 00:14:49,760
She was the best.

490
00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:51,500
- I'm surprised you remember that, Russell.

491
00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:53,120
- I just remembered it right now.

492
00:14:53,180 --> 00:14:55,140
I was like, "Who's the college guy with the comics?"

493
00:14:55,140 --> 00:14:56,260
That was like...

494
00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:57,220
- Thanks, mom.

495
00:14:57,260 --> 00:14:57,500
- Yeah.

496
00:14:57,760 --> 00:14:59,840
- Do newspapers still have comic sections?

497
00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:01,560
- I don't know.

498
00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:03,160
- Do newspapers still exist?

499
00:15:03,460 --> 00:15:04,920
- Man, I might be more interested in,

500
00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,000
like the meme is great for like the headline,

501
00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:09,780
But if I saw the news in a comic strip format,

502
00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,760
that'd actually be kind of cool and interesting.

503
00:15:12,980 --> 00:15:15,000
Like the whole articles in comic strip,

504
00:15:15,460 --> 00:15:17,240
there's probably enough cartoonists out there

505
00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:18,220
that would do it too.

506
00:15:18,660 --> 00:15:19,100
- Demand

507
00:15:19,100 --> 00:15:22,120
in the world for a good illustrator is going down.

508
00:15:22,380 --> 00:15:25,460
So yeah, this could be a good rehoming, reworking effort.

509
00:15:26,340 --> 00:15:26,740
Yeah.

510
00:15:27,300 --> 00:15:27,900
- They all become

511
00:15:27,900 --> 00:15:28,240
journalists.

512
00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:28,880
- Artisanal,

513
00:15:29,020 --> 00:15:31,020
home drawn comics

514
00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,980
about the latest attack in Syria or whatever.

515
00:15:34,900 --> 00:15:37,300
Yeah, my next pitfall is taking AI out of documents

516
00:15:37,300 --> 00:15:38,360
and turning them into cartoons.

517
00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:40,240
You have to come up with

518
00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:41,840
punch lines at the end of every one.

519
00:15:42,740 --> 00:15:44,160
Honestly, if it's a little off color,

520
00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:45,400
that might make it more popular.

521
00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:51,520
All right, Scott, what do you got?

522
00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,940
All right, Russell, way back when, in an early episode,

523
00:15:55,180 --> 00:15:57,000
you had pitched vitamins for

524
00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:57,360
gamers.

525
00:15:58,080 --> 00:15:59,980
And I've been thinking about that idea a lot,

526
00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:01,460
especially because I'm really trying

527
00:16:01,460 --> 00:16:03,939
to take better care of myself, which is just

528
00:16:03,940 --> 00:16:07,120
resulting in me taking a large pile of supplements every day

529
00:16:07,300 --> 00:16:07,840
and turning

530
00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:09,320
my pee really weird shades of color.

531
00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:10,020
- And you are a known

532
00:16:10,020 --> 00:16:10,400
gamer.

533
00:16:10,420 --> 00:16:10,980
- That's some B

534
00:16:10,980 --> 00:16:11,840
multiplex.

535
00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:12,500
I know

536
00:16:12,500 --> 00:16:12,920
that one.

537
00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:13,200
- There it is,

538
00:16:13,300 --> 00:16:14,120
it's the B one.

539
00:16:14,580 --> 00:16:14,920
- Same.

540
00:16:16,780 --> 00:16:16,880
(laughing)

541
00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:20,440
- I've realized I'm starting to like dread my morning,

542
00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:22,140
I don't know, vitamin time, I'll call it,

543
00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,080
where I just have these piles of horse pills

544
00:16:24,220 --> 00:16:24,620
and I just like,

545
00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,220
I just gotta get through all these guys, man.

546
00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:29,140
Okay, so here's what I wanna do.

547
00:16:29,300 --> 00:16:31,860
I wanna revamp old school vitamin water,

548
00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,240
but I actually wanna make it vitamin water.

549
00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:35,920
I wanna take all off the shelf,

550
00:16:36,700 --> 00:16:38,560
calcium, vitamin B, D, all that stuff.

551
00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:41,240
I wanna grind it up and I wanna customize it.

552
00:16:41,340 --> 00:16:42,740
You go on this website and you'd be like,

553
00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:44,760
here's what I wanna take, or we can do a recommendation.

554
00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,160
I will put it into a bottle as a powder

555
00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:50,600
and mix enough sugar water/Gatorade into it

556
00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:51,640
and send it back to you and be like,

557
00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:54,180
you gotta chug one of these a day and that's it.

558
00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:55,860
And you just, and that's the entire idea.

559
00:16:55,860 --> 00:16:57,220
- That's so good. - It's all off the shelf.

560
00:16:57,540 --> 00:16:58,060
- That's amazing.

561
00:16:58,300 --> 00:16:59,580
- Yeah, I would buy that. - Vitamin water.

562
00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:00,060
That is

563
00:17:00,060 --> 00:17:00,820
a terrible company.

564
00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,940
They make Kool-Aid, and they should never have named it that.

565
00:17:04,060 --> 00:17:06,140
And Coca-Cola is a terrible company for inventing it.

566
00:17:06,260 --> 00:17:08,540
Did they acquire vitamin water?

567
00:17:09,199 --> 00:17:09,260
A

568
00:17:09,260 --> 00:17:09,520
long

569
00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:10,199
time ago, right?

570
00:17:10,199 --> 00:17:10,480
A long time ago.

571
00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:11,540
Yeah, I think it's part of Coke.

572
00:17:11,660 --> 00:17:13,740
Scott, would it come in like Jones-style bottles?

573
00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:15,439
Oh, I like that even more.

574
00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:17,760
Or Sobe.

575
00:17:17,939 --> 00:17:19,060
Jones soda feels fancy.

576
00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:20,720
Sobe, classic.

577
00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,060
Honestly, we could make it look exactly like vitamin water.

578
00:17:23,199 --> 00:17:25,620
I learned that Sobe is short for South Beach.

579
00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:26,579
I didn't know that.

580
00:17:27,380 --> 00:17:28,300
Are they still around?

581
00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:29,920
I feel like I haven't seen a lot of Sobe around

582
00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:30,140
lately.

583
00:17:30,900 --> 00:17:32,220
- I don't know, I just remember that one

584
00:17:32,300 --> 00:17:34,480
that was really unnatural green color.

585
00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:35,940
- I think they all were, yeah.

586
00:17:36,980 --> 00:17:39,920
Bright iridescent blue, nothing in nature comes that color.

587
00:17:41,700 --> 00:17:42,120
- I'll drink

588
00:17:42,120 --> 00:17:42,440
it though.

589
00:17:42,900 --> 00:17:43,980
- That's what your vitamin water's

590
00:17:43,990 --> 00:17:44,960
gonna look like though, dude.

591
00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:46,440
- It's gonna be that.

592
00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:46,800
- Something more like

593
00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:47,560
milky looking.

594
00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:48,020
- Just keep

595
00:17:48,020 --> 00:17:49,220
adding sugar and dye

596
00:17:49,460 --> 00:17:50,960
until it's something palatable.

597
00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:51,820
- Otherwise it'll

598
00:17:51,820 --> 00:17:54,340
all be that weird chalky white orange, yeah.

599
00:17:54,860 --> 00:17:56,240
- Yeah, probably taste awful.

600
00:17:56,380 --> 00:17:57,100
I was really

601
00:17:57,100 --> 00:17:58,300
excited about this until I'm like,

602
00:17:58,360 --> 00:17:59,060
oh wait, I take fish

603
00:17:59,060 --> 00:17:59,720
oil every day.

604
00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,220
And if you've ever accidentally broke a fish oil capsule,

605
00:18:02,820 --> 00:18:02,980
it's

606
00:18:02,980 --> 00:18:03,400
awful.

607
00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:07,360
It's just everywhere and it just reeks of fish, go figure.

608
00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:08,480
So maybe not fish oil.

609
00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:09,480
- That's why you gotta eat breakfast

610
00:18:09,620 --> 00:18:10,800
when you do fish oil, right?

611
00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,000
'Cause like you'll be having fish oil burps all day.

612
00:18:13,060 --> 00:18:13,320
I hate

613
00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:13,560
that.

614
00:18:13,740 --> 00:18:14,180
Yeah, it's

615
00:18:14,180 --> 00:18:14,780
disgusting.

616
00:18:15,140 --> 00:18:15,440
- Unless

617
00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,040
you're having fish oil drink

618
00:18:17,300 --> 00:18:17,400
from

619
00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:18,340
Scott's new company.

620
00:18:18,980 --> 00:18:20,460
- So JK, I was gonna ask, what is the,

621
00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,120
I almost don't wanna know, but what's the legality of this?

622
00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:26,640
Like off the shelf vitamins, can I resell them?

623
00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:28,360
Would like the packaging on this thing

624
00:18:28,360 --> 00:18:32,100
be like a mile-long list of disclaimers and facts?

625
00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:34,340
So if something is a supplement

626
00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,480
there's almost no regulation on it.

627
00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:37,960
Hell yeah.

628
00:18:38,020 --> 00:18:38,700
Which is

629
00:18:38,700 --> 00:18:39,760
kind of

630
00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:41,460
terrifying but...

631
00:18:41,940 --> 00:18:42,800
So we're in business.

632
00:18:43,220 --> 00:18:44,160
You can do whatever you want.

633
00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,140
Costco A vitamins and get your mortar and pestle out.

634
00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:47,860
Alright.

635
00:18:49,020 --> 00:18:51,640
If you want to gain people's trust you have to get like third-party

636
00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:53,980
certifications and like laboratory

637
00:18:53,980 --> 00:18:56,000
purity and like Instagram influencers

638
00:18:58,080 --> 00:18:58,520
no

639
00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:00,260
sponsored by meme news no

640
00:19:00,260 --> 00:19:02,580
like third-party testing for purity and things

641
00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,180
like that but that would be hard if you're like saying that you're gonna

642
00:19:05,360 --> 00:19:09,780
customize your product to different people's needs I

643
00:19:09,780 --> 00:19:10,680
mean I could have them

644
00:19:10,740 --> 00:19:14,480
selected I'll just hold up like here's the bottles we're gonna put exactly one

645
00:19:14,500 --> 00:19:18,020
of these into yours and exactly one of these into yours and here's all the info

646
00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:21,620
on each one seems like a lot of work but we could do it we could automate that

647
00:19:21,620 --> 00:19:23,780
What about if you made this like a bespoke thing

648
00:19:24,020 --> 00:19:26,380
for the customer, where they say what supplements they want,

649
00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:28,280
and then you mix it with/for

650
00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:28,440
them?

651
00:19:28,460 --> 00:19:29,760
That's what I thought he meant.

652
00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:29,980
And

653
00:19:29,980 --> 00:19:31,740
ship them the weekly

654
00:19:31,740 --> 00:19:33,580
seven bottles

655
00:19:33,580 --> 00:19:34,000
or whatever.

656
00:19:34,500 --> 00:19:35,860
Is that what you were originally pitching?

657
00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:36,140
Yeah.

658
00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:36,400
Oh,

659
00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:36,600
OK.

660
00:19:36,700 --> 00:19:39,540
So you're saying like, in order to prove it to the customer,

661
00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:41,140
you have video

662
00:19:41,140 --> 00:19:41,900
evidence of

663
00:19:41,900 --> 00:19:41,980
you

664
00:19:41,980 --> 00:19:42,860
creating it for

665
00:19:42,860 --> 00:19:43,100
them

666
00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:43,520
or something?

667
00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:46,000
Sure.

668
00:19:46,900 --> 00:19:48,660
Do one video, and they'll get the gist.

669
00:19:49,140 --> 00:19:50,680
Do you think you would be able-- this

670
00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:55,580
really low effort. Do you think you'd be able to sell a three-quarters full

671
00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:59,820
bottle that is specially made to enhance your vitamins or

672
00:19:59,820 --> 00:20:01,100
whatever you just add

673
00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,420
your own vitamins to it? Oh like I take a

674
00:20:03,420 --> 00:20:05,560
big bottle and dissolve my

675
00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:06,800
B-complex

676
00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:07,580
in the night before?

677
00:20:07,900 --> 00:20:08,060
Yeah.

678
00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,800
You like open up the pill into the Yeah, exactly.

679
00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,080
Wait, they would just dissolve,

680
00:20:13,540 --> 00:20:17,160
wouldn't they? Like put it in a blender? You get you create a really cool

681
00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:20,820
machine, Scott, that like, you know, you can buy, you put all your pills in there.

682
00:20:21,290 --> 00:20:25,800
It crushes, blends it, compacts it, or, and mixes it in with all the other good stuff.

683
00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:26,100
Right?

684
00:20:26,300 --> 00:20:26,720
Good stuff.

685
00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:27,760
First vitamin water's

686
00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:29,960
name's taken and now Vitamix's name is

687
00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:30,360
taken.

688
00:20:30,700 --> 00:20:30,840
Man.

689
00:20:31,120 --> 00:20:31,720
Ah, damn.

690
00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,820
Something that stressed me out about taking supplements is that I made the

691
00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:40,060
mistake of one time searching, what time of day should I take calcium supplements?

692
00:20:40,380 --> 00:20:40,940
Oh, I've done that.

693
00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:44,280
And then it's this whole thing of like, oh, well you should take it at this time,

694
00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:47,660
but not at this time because then it will inhibit the bioavailability.

695
00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,960
And don't take it with this supplement because then you won't absorb it at all.

696
00:20:51,060 --> 00:20:54,580
Can't do it with magnesium because they'll cancel each other out and all these other things.

697
00:20:54,580 --> 00:20:54,820
Yeah, exactly.

698
00:20:54,890 --> 00:20:55,360
And now I'm like,

699
00:20:55,620 --> 00:20:58,340
well, so are multivitamins just a farce?

700
00:20:58,420 --> 00:20:59,920
Like, what am I supposed to be doing?

701
00:20:59,960 --> 00:21:00,680
I'm so confused.

702
00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:04,760
So now I am like trying to time my supplements because I put way too much effort into it.

703
00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,640
Like, these are my nighttime ones and these are my breakfast ones.

704
00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:11,020
And probably not actually making a difference, but it makes me feel better.

705
00:21:11,450 --> 00:21:12,480
You pee it all out anyway.

706
00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:14,160
I'm gonna cross this line here and say,

707
00:21:14,260 --> 00:21:15,980
could you do this with prescription pills?

708
00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,620
Like for old people that really have a hard time

709
00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:21,060
taking their pills, you're just like,

710
00:21:21,180 --> 00:21:22,480
Grandma, here's your--

711
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:22,980
- Chug this

712
00:21:22,980 --> 00:21:23,500
Gatorade.

713
00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:24,160
- Here's your

714
00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:24,340
Gatorade.

715
00:21:24,340 --> 00:21:26,300
- You gotta finish this by the end of the day, Nana.

716
00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:27,540
- Your meal,

717
00:21:27,700 --> 00:21:29,180
what is it, like the Ensure?

718
00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,140
Like a lot of old people drink a lot of Ensure.

719
00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:32,740
You just mix that in with their prescriptions

720
00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:34,240
and then all of a sudden they're taking their drugs.

721
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:36,720
I mean, you're just blending it.

722
00:21:37,100 --> 00:21:37,940
- What are you in for?

723
00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:40,660
I got busted selling Nana's Vicodin shakes.

724
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:41,860
(laughing)

725
00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:44,520
- I mean, it might solve,

726
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:46,740
that would solve a major problem.

727
00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:48,840
In a way, if people are just,

728
00:21:49,020 --> 00:21:50,640
don't wanna do the pill thing, right?

729
00:21:51,030 --> 00:21:52,100
They just wanna--

730
00:21:52,100 --> 00:21:54,280
- This whole thing is Leo's peanut butter trick

731
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:54,780
with the dog.

732
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:55,360
- It is.

733
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:56,180
(laughing)

734
00:21:56,220 --> 00:21:57,700
- That's gonna be the theme of the episode.

735
00:21:58,260 --> 00:21:58,880
- All right. - Yep.

736
00:21:59,260 --> 00:22:00,140
- Could you mix this with

737
00:22:00,140 --> 00:22:01,900
food instead of drink?

738
00:22:02,180 --> 00:22:03,900
Like, I mean, I don't know if,

739
00:22:04,380 --> 00:22:08,700
even no matter how much dye, sugar, natural flavors,

740
00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:10,940
Maybe there's just like a, you know,

741
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,000
you slip a pill in like a sandwich,

742
00:22:13,180 --> 00:22:13,340
you know?

743
00:22:13,340 --> 00:22:14,080
- Or mashed potatoes.

744
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:15,900
- You're mashed potatoes, right?

745
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,500
Like a slice of cheese.

746
00:22:17,500 --> 00:22:18,420
- Your egg and wine.

747
00:22:18,780 --> 00:22:19,000
- You know?

748
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:19,840
- Egg and wine.

749
00:22:20,180 --> 00:22:20,660
(laughing)

750
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:26,160
- Just replace the egg yolk with Vita Blend.

751
00:22:27,620 --> 00:22:29,220
Deviled eggs with Vita Blend.

752
00:22:34,660 --> 00:22:36,980
All right, Russell, what have you brought us this week?

753
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:41,140
- All right, so actually mine kind of piggybacks

754
00:22:41,220 --> 00:22:42,560
off of Leo's a little bit.

755
00:22:43,700 --> 00:22:43,960
Well,

756
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:44,980
tell me if I've done this before.

757
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:45,880
I'm pretty sure I didn't,

758
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:50,140
but I get a ton of newsletters that I subscribe to

759
00:22:50,360 --> 00:22:52,820
that I really enjoy and want to read.

760
00:22:53,140 --> 00:22:57,180
And I end up reading all these other news sites

761
00:22:57,180 --> 00:23:00,680
or I get my news from like whatever feeds.

762
00:23:00,780 --> 00:23:03,060
Google News is like really addicting for some reason.

763
00:23:03,460 --> 00:23:06,539
And then I just want to take my newsletters

764
00:23:06,540 --> 00:23:09,280
and put them in a format that feels like a news site.

765
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:09,920
So I'm

766
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:10,660
not just, I

767
00:23:10,660 --> 00:23:12,720
just, I don't like them in my email,

768
00:23:12,980 --> 00:23:14,960
but I don't wanna unsubscribe from them either.

769
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,380
I just wish I could forward all these emails to,

770
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,200
and I'll even pay for newsletters.

771
00:23:21,420 --> 00:23:21,860
You know what I mean?

772
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:23,320
I've paid for a few of them,

773
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:27,020
and I just don't read them because the format.

774
00:23:27,230 --> 00:23:30,380
And I'm like, it's like mixing work with pleasure too much.

775
00:23:30,940 --> 00:23:33,420
And I just can't stand, it's like,

776
00:23:33,870 --> 00:23:35,480
if I'm doing my email cleanup,

777
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,800
I'm like, newsletter, I could read this.

778
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:39,080
Nope, I'm just gonna clear it out

779
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:40,460
'cause I never read these now, right?

780
00:23:40,940 --> 00:23:42,300
And that's all I want.

781
00:23:42,300 --> 00:23:43,980
I want my newsletters,

782
00:23:44,620 --> 00:23:46,920
or just like if it could read my newsletters

783
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,160
and link the articles that my newsletters gather anyway,

784
00:23:50,380 --> 00:23:51,860
like that would be awesome too.

785
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,480
So yeah, it'd be a site that would tap into my email

786
00:23:55,780 --> 00:23:58,040
and maybe pull the links from my favorite newsletters

787
00:23:58,180 --> 00:24:02,160
into a customized newsfeed or be the newsletter itself

788
00:24:02,300 --> 00:24:04,700
if it's like custom kind of content, right?

789
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,720
Um, that's I want to desperately want

790
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:08,000
that.

791
00:24:08,330 --> 00:24:09,020
I love it.

792
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:13,200
Custom news web page just for you based upon your wants on there

793
00:24:13,230 --> 00:24:15,340
of things you subscribe to forwarding it in is

794
00:24:15,340 --> 00:24:15,560
so good.

795
00:24:15,660 --> 00:24:16,180
Take this

796
00:24:16,180 --> 00:24:17,360
one more level.

797
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,140
Have an option on there where they will make a print version

798
00:24:21,170 --> 00:24:26,500
and mail you a full newspaper customized for all of your news.

799
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:27,180
I love that.

800
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,680
We'll go your next generation back.

801
00:24:29,860 --> 00:24:34,840
The core problem is that being in your email is such a sucky experience.

802
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:35,620
You have

803
00:24:35,620 --> 00:24:36,400
associated

804
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,180
20 years of I am here and therefore I am miserable.

805
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:41,020
I hate being in my email.

806
00:24:41,740 --> 00:24:43,580
Why would I want to spend another second in my email?

807
00:24:43,660 --> 00:24:45,280
Even if it's actually something fun.

808
00:24:45,620 --> 00:24:46,320
Yeah, totally.

809
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:47,200
Yeah.

810
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:51,580
I would love that to get like the actual print newspaper, especially since starting a remote job.

811
00:24:51,660 --> 00:24:54,520
My eyes always hurt by the end of the day from staring at a screen.

812
00:24:54,980 --> 00:24:59,500
It's like the last thing I want to do is wake up and look at a screen like while I'm drinking coffee.

813
00:24:59,700 --> 00:25:00,280
I

814
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:07,040
have subscribed to two physical mailers. One of them is the onions newspaper that comes every month and the other is

815
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:12,160
Patreon guy who sends jokey things in the mail and both of them bring me a way

816
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:19,400
Overproportionate amount of delight and joy. I did not expect how much I would like having a physical newspaper. I get it

817
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,860
I'm sorry mom for all the years that I made fun of you

818
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:29,680
Wow

819
00:25:30,500 --> 00:25:32,080
Man, maybe we're ready for this.

820
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,280
Like a digital print or a printout.

821
00:25:35,740 --> 00:25:36,320
That's amazing.

822
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:37,120
I've seen people take

823
00:25:37,120 --> 00:25:38,200
receipt printers

824
00:25:38,540 --> 00:25:41,140
and print their Google Calendar and tasks and weather

825
00:25:41,220 --> 00:25:43,780
for the day and stocks and stuff and kind of take it on the go

826
00:25:43,820 --> 00:25:44,780
as a little mini newspaper.

827
00:25:45,220 --> 00:25:47,920
I wonder if you could home printerify this, where you've

828
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,560
got like, here's my newsletters that I got in the last day.

829
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:52,640
There's three of them.

830
00:25:52,700 --> 00:25:55,320
And they're on cheap, disposable paper

831
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,980
that spat out from my little machine in my kitchen

832
00:25:57,980 --> 00:25:59,760
every day on the way out or whatever.

833
00:25:59,840 --> 00:25:59,980
Comes

834
00:25:59,980 --> 00:26:01,060
with a magnifying glass.

835
00:26:01,230 --> 00:26:01,680
Do printers

836
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:02,900
have auto timers?

837
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,860
I mean, you hook it up to a Raspberry Pi or something,

838
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:06,880
have it print in the morning.

839
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:07,200
Yeah.

840
00:26:07,780 --> 00:26:08,520
I love that.

841
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:08,820
That's awesome.

842
00:26:08,820 --> 00:26:10,540
Here's your morning newspaper on demand.

843
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,020
No shipping, no logistics.

844
00:26:12,580 --> 00:26:12,740
Only

845
00:26:12,740 --> 00:26:13,760
things you're interested in.

846
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:15,520
Every article is something I care about.

847
00:26:15,860 --> 00:26:17,580
But yeah, I think even the digital version

848
00:26:18,020 --> 00:26:19,280
is still awesome.

849
00:26:20,020 --> 00:26:22,680
You could even subscribe to other newsletters.

850
00:26:24,580 --> 00:26:26,660
Because your inbox is kind of curated

851
00:26:26,660 --> 00:26:28,740
and those newsletters are stuff you've chosen.

852
00:26:29,120 --> 00:26:31,720
You can just create and link other newsletters

853
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,820
that are relevant that you would have never heard about.

854
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:36,720
So now you have like an ad revenue stream.

855
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,520
Like if you have Spitball news paper,

856
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,020
you know, the four ideas that came out this week,

857
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:43,400
throw it in your channel.

858
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,660
And now like it comes out every two weeks.

859
00:26:45,660 --> 00:26:47,280
You could take podcasts almost

860
00:26:47,540 --> 00:26:50,440
and like convert that into your newsletter feed as well.

861
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:54,000
It just turns into like a whole different news media.

862
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:55,400
And I just, I maybe, I don't know.

863
00:26:55,780 --> 00:26:59,280
Have you guys found, I haven't found a great news outlet

864
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:03,260
that I can skip all the BS politics stuff if I want

865
00:27:03,380 --> 00:27:06,040
and maybe I gotta figure out my Twitter or X account

866
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:06,720
or whatever better.

867
00:27:06,900 --> 00:27:07,020
- No

868
00:27:07,020 --> 00:27:07,080
you

869
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:07,140
don't.

870
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:07,620
- But I just

871
00:27:07,620 --> 00:27:08,780
like, no, it's just not,

872
00:27:08,860 --> 00:27:09,720
it's probably the opposite.

873
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,840
I guess that's what's frustrating to me.

874
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,100
It's like, I just want my own news channel

875
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:16,680
and that kind of thing.

876
00:27:17,420 --> 00:27:19,480
- So would the person would have to go

877
00:27:19,540 --> 00:27:21,740
to their printer every morning and then print it out?

878
00:27:22,260 --> 00:27:23,700
Or are you thinking of like,

879
00:27:24,220 --> 00:27:26,260
Because you're saying the receipt thing made me think,

880
00:27:26,340 --> 00:27:27,120
like, oh, you could get,

881
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,320
I wonder what the cheapest printer you can manufacture is

882
00:27:30,380 --> 00:27:32,120
that just does it, like automatically.

883
00:27:32,260 --> 00:27:34,440
It'll just print it at 6 a.m. every morning.

884
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:36,420
Just like one little sheet.

885
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,800
- You could find some cheap laser printers on there.

886
00:27:39,940 --> 00:27:41,560
- Poor Russell's trying to claw this back

887
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:42,460
into being a website.

888
00:27:42,620 --> 00:27:44,380
We just, we need it to be physical.

889
00:27:45,140 --> 00:27:45,780
- I'm cool with it.

890
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:46,980
You know what, let's go with it.

891
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,220
'Cause like, I literally have this now.

892
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,040
I've made a new Spitball like printer

893
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,280
that is heat paper only, right?

894
00:27:53,660 --> 00:27:56,820
- Could you burn, like could you just buy regular paper

895
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:58,900
and just get the right, instead of ink,

896
00:27:58,900 --> 00:28:00,320
you just have a hot end?

897
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:01,660
What if you just

898
00:28:01,660 --> 00:28:02,120
did that?

899
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:03,760
We're gonna laser the printer.

900
00:28:04,180 --> 00:28:05,200
You know, you probably could.

901
00:28:05,700 --> 00:28:07,900
Like you just change the, I don't know, what is it?

902
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,380
Like a dot printer or whatever?

903
00:28:09,420 --> 00:28:10,760
It just goes back and forth, left and right.

904
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:11,540
- A little soldering

905
00:28:11,540 --> 00:28:12,160
iron in there.

906
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,440
- Boom, with the right temperature, obviously, right?

907
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,680
- I want my news printed on sterling silver every morning.

908
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:19,340
(laughing)

909
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:21,180
- Lead.

910
00:28:21,700 --> 00:28:21,880
I

911
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:23,020
meant

912
00:28:23,020 --> 00:28:24,860
just burning paper, but that's good too.

913
00:28:25,540 --> 00:28:27,660
The world yearns for Google Reader, Russell.

914
00:28:28,220 --> 00:28:34,340
You want an RSS feed but has your subscriptions and newsletters and stuff in it too.

915
00:28:34,620 --> 00:28:37,760
I spent a lot of time in my RSS reader and it's still there, man.

916
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:42,760
You can make your own little newspaper-y, Markham is Red thing, but it takes some work.

917
00:28:43,020 --> 00:28:44,860
This is way too far, but I want to bring it

918
00:28:44,860 --> 00:28:48,380
back to the lasering food idea that we had.

919
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:48,860
Yes!

920
00:28:49,660 --> 00:28:51,920
pancakes in the morning just have your news on top of

921
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:52,840
your morning toast with

922
00:28:52,860 --> 00:28:54,900
the weather and the stocks yeah exactly I

923
00:28:54,900 --> 00:28:55,980
saw someone do that that's

924
00:28:55,980 --> 00:28:56,220
great

925
00:28:57,020 --> 00:28:59,780
there was a yeah an Arduino project years ago or someone

926
00:28:59,780 --> 00:29:00,720
made that awesome

927
00:29:00,900 --> 00:29:05,380
okay wait how did so you're making newspapers what kind of ink and paper do

928
00:29:05,380 --> 00:29:09,660
they use why don't you just buy a bunch of newspaper and the newspaper printer

929
00:29:09,660 --> 00:29:10,420
I

930
00:29:10,420 --> 00:29:14,260
think it's called newspaper paper yeah it's like a its own thing their

931
00:29:14,260 --> 00:29:14,500
ink

932
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,259
can't be expensive you know what I mean like by the free press are pretty cheap

933
00:29:18,260 --> 00:29:19,620
There are

934
00:29:19,620 --> 00:29:24,960
no newspaper printer machines that are smaller than a room, you know

935
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,740
I think it's meant for scale

936
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:32,040
I don't think anyone has invented the cheap newspaper and cheap ink but only makes one yet.

937
00:29:32,420 --> 00:29:34,640
Yet. I love the burnin idea

938
00:29:35,140 --> 00:29:38,860
I want I think like the heated paper like is repeat receipt paper expensive

939
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,400
Why don't they just make eight and a half by eleven versions or whatever?

940
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:41,640
I've

941
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,699
seen people take like Ender 3 printers 3d printers and

942
00:29:45,540 --> 00:29:48,820
Change out the extruder for like a pen

943
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:55,800
Draws you could have your little soldering iron writing the words like it's drawing a pen like you pick up penmanship

944
00:29:55,900 --> 00:29:56,320
And it's

945
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:57,760
a in your own hand tomorrow

946
00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:58,160
morning

947
00:29:58,720 --> 00:29:58,880
There

948
00:29:58,880 --> 00:29:59,960
will be mostly

949
00:29:59,960 --> 00:30:04,800
cloudy like it's writing onto your paper by burning it with a soldering iron. That's fun

950
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,440
Oh, that's just sketch boom

951
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:13,820
Every day it erases you have to send it back every I guess that's e-reader though, right? I don't know

952
00:30:14,460 --> 00:30:15,720
Yeah, you want a Kindle?

953
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:20,720
It all comes back to e-ink, baby

954
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:21,100
All right

955
00:30:21,250 --> 00:30:26,240
I did see someone take a 42 inch e-ink screen put it on their wall and it's just the New York Times front page

956
00:30:26,340 --> 00:30:27,960
It's gorgeous every

957
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,040
day. Dude, we might have to re-Spitball this. We're

958
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:31,860
gonna have to do some research on some burning paper

959
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:36,560
I like the burning thing a lot. I think maybe it didn't catch on cuz the fire risk

960
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:43,400
Well, bristeak paper or whatever, right? Like I wonder if it's like how hot does it have to be?

961
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,720
I don't know. Do you have to use a special paper?

962
00:30:46,390 --> 00:30:48,560
- I just want to burn it. I don't want it to catch fire.

963
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,160
I think that's really, really similar.

964
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,420
- Like a marshmallow brown, you know,

965
00:30:54,500 --> 00:30:56,000
like the perfect, perfect marshmallow.

966
00:30:56,380 --> 00:30:56,740
- Toasted.

967
00:30:57,260 --> 00:30:57,460
- Just

968
00:30:57,460 --> 00:30:58,460
do it on marshmallow, man.

969
00:30:59,500 --> 00:30:59,860
- Marshmallow,

970
00:30:59,940 --> 00:31:00,980
and then you eat it afterwards.

971
00:31:01,470 --> 00:31:01,560
- Yeah.

972
00:31:02,490 --> 00:31:02,700
- I guess

973
00:31:02,700 --> 00:31:04,240
marshmallows burn pretty often

974
00:31:04,250 --> 00:31:06,460
and catch fire often, so it probably isn't a good analogy.

975
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:13,320
- I saw some really expensive marshmallow brand recently

976
00:31:13,540 --> 00:31:15,240
that their packaging was advertising it

977
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:16,880
as being a great source of collagen.

978
00:31:17,220 --> 00:31:18,480
- Wait, the marshmallow or the packaging?

979
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,860
- The packaging was advertising the marshmallow

980
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:23,660
as being a great source of collagen.

981
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:28,280
And it wasn't like your typical Puffs marshmallow,

982
00:31:28,370 --> 00:31:31,260
it was some sort of homegrown looking thing.

983
00:31:31,260 --> 00:31:31,280
- It's

984
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:32,260
basically health food.

985
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,460
- But I feel like that just kind of goes hand in hand

986
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,560
with the gamer juice.

987
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:37,700
(laughing)

988
00:31:39,679 --> 00:31:40,200
- Gamerjuiced.

989
00:31:40,340 --> 00:31:40,880
- Gamerjuiced.

990
00:31:40,930 --> 00:31:42,720
- I love it, we should call it that.

991
00:31:43,780 --> 00:31:44,380
- With no vowels.

992
00:31:46,020 --> 00:31:46,540
- Gamerjuiced.

993
00:31:46,820 --> 00:31:47,540
- Gamerjuiced.

994
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,480
- G-M-R-J-C.

995
00:31:50,900 --> 00:31:51,420
- Gamerjuiced.

996
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:52,120
- By the domain.

997
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:53,480
(upbeat

998
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:53,780
music)

999
00:31:57,220 --> 00:31:59,180
- All right, Jackie, what do you got for us this week?

1000
00:32:00,860 --> 00:32:03,200
- I have a serious food pitch,

1001
00:32:03,390 --> 00:32:06,200
or I have my, I'll do my less serious one.

1002
00:32:06,940 --> 00:32:07,120
- Excellent.

1003
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,560
- Okay, so you know how, shoot,

1004
00:32:09,580 --> 00:32:10,820
I already forgot the name of the app,

1005
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,080
but there's this alternative to Airbnb

1006
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:14,740
that's been popping up

1007
00:32:14,740 --> 00:32:15,880
and it's house swapping.

1008
00:32:16,940 --> 00:32:17,260
So

1009
00:32:17,260 --> 00:32:19,140
there's this new app where essentially

1010
00:32:19,340 --> 00:32:22,720
if you agree to lending your house to strangers

1011
00:32:23,300 --> 00:32:25,760
while you're gone, then you have access

1012
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,980
to everybody else's home on the app when they're gone.

1013
00:32:28,500 --> 00:32:29,460
And you just put

1014
00:32:29,460 --> 00:32:30,360
in your dates of like

1015
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,740
when you're not there and then you can swap with somebody

1016
00:32:32,820 --> 00:32:33,540
and it costs nothing.

1017
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:35,500
- Is this trusted house sitters

1018
00:32:35,500 --> 00:32:37,300
where you like watch their dogs too or whatever?

1019
00:32:37,350 --> 00:32:38,020
Or is that different?

1020
00:32:38,300 --> 00:32:38,980
- That's different.

1021
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:40,060
This is like

1022
00:32:40,380 --> 00:32:40,640
- Swap.

1023
00:32:41,220 --> 00:32:41,360
- I

1024
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:42,900
mean, I don't know. It's

1025
00:32:42,900 --> 00:32:45,220
kinda, I think I need to like watch some videos on how

1026
00:32:45,220 --> 00:32:47,060
it actually works. But anyway,

1027
00:32:47,140 --> 00:32:49,380
since I've been moved recently, I keep finding

1028
00:32:49,380 --> 00:32:51,320
that there's all these things that I need

1029
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,440
and haven't bought yet. And it's

1030
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:57,400
starting to pile up in expenses. And I was

1031
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,660
like, why isn't there just a site for item swapping

1032
00:33:00,660 --> 00:33:02,380
or item exchanges that you can just

1033
00:33:02,380 --> 00:33:03,940
borrow other people's things?

1034
00:33:04,380 --> 00:33:05,420
Like you would just put it in,

1035
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,100
like, can I please use such and such?

1036
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:07,740
And then you could.

1037
00:33:07,940 --> 00:33:10,020
So basically if you agree to allowing people

1038
00:33:10,020 --> 00:33:12,860
to use your items, whether it's like lawnmower,

1039
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:14,460
camping equipment, leaf blower,

1040
00:33:16,180 --> 00:33:17,940
arts and crafts equipment, something like that,

1041
00:33:18,020 --> 00:33:19,240
people can use it.

1042
00:33:19,580 --> 00:33:22,340
And then you, by allowing them to use your things,

1043
00:33:22,420 --> 00:33:25,000
you automatically can use their belongings.

1044
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,180
But there isn't, it's not like for money.

1045
00:33:27,700 --> 00:33:29,100
It's just more of a community exchange.

1046
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,420
And I understand that Facebook groups exist

1047
00:33:31,420 --> 00:33:32,280
and everything like that,

1048
00:33:32,340 --> 00:33:35,660
but there's a lot of other stuff going on in Facebook groups.

1049
00:33:35,700 --> 00:33:37,120
It's not as straightforward as that.

1050
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,560
But like, for example, I really want to go camping

1051
00:33:41,220 --> 00:33:42,820
in the next few months.

1052
00:33:42,900 --> 00:33:44,260
And I'm like, man, I can't afford all this

1053
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:45,200
camping equipment right now,

1054
00:33:45,340 --> 00:33:46,900
especially if I'm just going to use it once

1055
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:48,200
and then never use it

1056
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:48,460
again.

1057
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:48,900
And

1058
00:33:48,900 --> 00:33:50,060
that's probably how most people

1059
00:33:50,540 --> 00:33:51,500
treat their camping equipment.

1060
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:53,980
- I'll trade you my snowboard for a tent.

1061
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:55,300
- And then you can rate people

1062
00:33:55,300 --> 00:33:56,420
after the experience,

1063
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,660
like how well did they take care of your items?

1064
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:00,140
Did they trash it?

1065
00:34:00,340 --> 00:34:00,460
Yeah.

1066
00:34:00,780 --> 00:34:01,840
- That's really interesting.

1067
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,140
If this podcast has a thesis, it would be,

1068
00:34:04,140 --> 00:34:06,280
we need better community exchange stuff.

1069
00:34:06,540 --> 00:34:08,320
Like, I feel like we've danced around something

1070
00:34:08,460 --> 00:34:10,340
like this idea for a while, but that's great.

1071
00:34:10,620 --> 00:34:13,080
- It'd be cool to have like a wishlist of stuff

1072
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:14,340
that you want in the near

1073
00:34:14,340 --> 00:34:15,220
future too,

1074
00:34:15,940 --> 00:34:20,139
which is like, I don't know, like crock pots or turkey.

1075
00:34:20,540 --> 00:34:22,120
You know, like when you want to cook a turkey or something,

1076
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,740
I hate those giant pans, but I would love to borrow one.

1077
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:25,280
- Yes.

1078
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,520
- And then you could have this running list

1079
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:32,060
And then, man, I would give up my, let's say,

1080
00:34:32,940 --> 00:34:35,740
dehydrator for a few months knowing that I would collect,

1081
00:34:36,179 --> 00:34:37,120
let's say, currency.

1082
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:38,879
Or if I don't want to--

1083
00:34:38,899 --> 00:34:39,240
Kind of

1084
00:34:39,240 --> 00:34:40,580
website currency.

1085
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:41,480
Yeah, like--

1086
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:41,740
Karma.

1087
00:34:41,980 --> 00:34:44,340
Oh, I gave it to this person for two months.

1088
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:46,639
I get points every time.

1089
00:34:46,720 --> 00:34:49,879
And then you can either buy points or exchange, right?

1090
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:50,780
If you could do a trade.

1091
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,780
Ideally, if I have a dehydrator and Jackie, you need a tent,

1092
00:34:56,159 --> 00:34:57,840
or like the other way around, I need a dehydrator.

1093
00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:58,880
I have a

1094
00:34:58,880 --> 00:34:59,640
tent, we would swap.

1095
00:35:00,240 --> 00:35:02,580
But if I don't, we could just create a currency

1096
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:04,600
or something that would buy in.

1097
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:08,740
And now you have like a three trade, right, or something,

1098
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:09,620
or a four trade

1099
00:35:09,620 --> 00:35:10,280
going on.

1100
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,120
And maybe the app could do that, right?

1101
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:15,800
So Jackie needs a tent.

1102
00:35:16,020 --> 00:35:17,240
It's hard to make sure that those line up

1103
00:35:17,260 --> 00:35:18,560
at the exact same time.

1104
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,940
You almost need to have like a, I lent out some stuff,

1105
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,340
and therefore I have a few Jackie bucks, or whatever.

1106
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,240
Or a-- yeah, I guess that's true.

1107
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:28,900
- What you're saying, I'm agreeing with you, Russell,

1108
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:29,080
that

1109
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:29,900
if

1110
00:35:29,900 --> 00:35:31,560
you have it be asynchronous,

1111
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:33,200
that it gives you a little bit more flexibility

1112
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:34,720
and choices out there,

1113
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:36,840
where you can pick from the menu of stuff

1114
00:35:37,170 --> 00:35:38,960
without having to make sure that you need the intent

1115
00:35:38,980 --> 00:35:42,900
the exact day that you get your dehydrator out or whatever.

1116
00:35:43,940 --> 00:35:45,360
- And that's the thing that I wasn't sure

1117
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:47,300
how it worked with the home swapping,

1118
00:35:47,740 --> 00:35:50,160
'cause of course you're not gonna switch homes

1119
00:35:50,220 --> 00:35:51,420
with somebody at the same time.

1120
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:52,300
- Maybe.

1121
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:53,400
- Unless it's a one for

1122
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:53,540
one.

1123
00:35:53,540 --> 00:35:54,480
- Possibly, but.

1124
00:35:54,620 --> 00:35:55,859
- What are the odds that your vacation

1125
00:35:55,860 --> 00:35:56,140
just the

1126
00:35:56,140 --> 00:35:57,780
exact other place at the exact

1127
00:35:57,780 --> 00:35:58,300
same time.

1128
00:35:58,420 --> 00:35:58,660
- Yeah. - Right.

1129
00:35:59,660 --> 00:35:59,900
- Yeah,

1130
00:36:00,060 --> 00:36:01,200
what if it was more like,

1131
00:36:01,380 --> 00:36:03,280
yeah, instead of the points part, it was,

1132
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:04,680
all right, Jackie has,

1133
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,860
like you have a list of stuff that you're listing

1134
00:36:07,340 --> 00:36:08,640
and the stuff that you need.

1135
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:10,900
And as long as you have one thing out,

1136
00:36:11,180 --> 00:36:13,300
you can check one thing in, right?

1137
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:14,280
And so it's just like

1138
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:15,420
that

1139
00:36:15,420 --> 00:36:17,080
kind of trading, right?

1140
00:36:17,380 --> 00:36:20,100
And then that can open up the market to,

1141
00:36:20,260 --> 00:36:24,060
oh, I have three things out for trade right now,

1142
00:36:24,580 --> 00:36:26,120
but now I can get these three things

1143
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:27,800
from these people on their lists

1144
00:36:28,020 --> 00:36:30,820
and now we can kind of do that swapping, right?

1145
00:36:31,180 --> 00:36:33,360
Like a library where if,

1146
00:36:33,500 --> 00:36:34,680
and then maybe you have to like help mark,

1147
00:36:34,740 --> 00:36:36,900
that'll help incentivize marketing your stuff

1148
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,300
to be good and good looking, right?

1149
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,180
'Cause people could just like take a picture

1150
00:36:41,240 --> 00:36:42,980
of their tent with their, you know,

1151
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:43,520
their old

1152
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:44,460
smartphones. - Smartphones in it.

1153
00:36:44,780 --> 00:36:45,020
- Yeah.

1154
00:36:46,060 --> 00:36:47,020
It's like, oh, I don't care.

1155
00:36:47,030 --> 00:36:49,960
As long as I have things listed, I'll get trades, right?

1156
00:36:50,060 --> 00:36:50,220
But.

1157
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:50,740
- Yeah.

1158
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,040
And then people could like rate the,

1159
00:36:53,420 --> 00:36:54,480
They could rate the borrower,

1160
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,240
the item that they borrowed, the quality of it.

1161
00:36:58,660 --> 00:37:01,580
- Yeah, like parties, like hosting parties,

1162
00:37:01,860 --> 00:37:04,880
like folding chairs, like just everybody's got

1163
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:06,540
like a hundred folding chairs in their house

1164
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,000
and everybody needs folding chairs,

1165
00:37:08,300 --> 00:37:09,740
that hundred folding chairs for that party,

1166
00:37:10,420 --> 00:37:11,760
speakers, you know,

1167
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:13,360
lights, stuff like that.

1168
00:37:13,780 --> 00:37:14,760
- Parties are a good one.

1169
00:37:15,340 --> 00:37:18,040
Weddings in general, all the leftover decorations

1170
00:37:18,190 --> 00:37:19,080
and stuff you have.

1171
00:37:19,540 --> 00:37:20,300
That could go a long way.

1172
00:37:20,380 --> 00:37:21,460
You'd be rich in this app.

1173
00:37:21,780 --> 00:37:22,200
- Right.

1174
00:37:22,580 --> 00:37:23,980
And dude, tents is a great example.

1175
00:37:24,060 --> 00:37:27,260
Like anything in anybody's garage, right?

1176
00:37:27,740 --> 00:37:30,040
Maybe that's what it's like, a garage swap or something,

1177
00:37:30,180 --> 00:37:31,120
like attic swap.

1178
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:33,220
- Attic swap.

1179
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,660
- Toys, dude, like kids' toys.

1180
00:37:37,300 --> 00:37:39,160
I could trade swap that all

1181
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:40,440
day.

1182
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,020
Like my kid outgrows the one-year-old toys.

1183
00:37:44,580 --> 00:37:46,240
Can I swap for two-year-olds?

1184
00:37:46,340 --> 00:37:47,380
And then I'll swap for three.

1185
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,600
And now I've just contributed a bunch of one-year-old toys

1186
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,820
into this system that are just forever swapped,

1187
00:37:52,820 --> 00:37:54,940
and I just keep swapping up to--

1188
00:37:54,940 --> 00:37:55,000
that

1189
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:55,580
would be cool.

1190
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,700
And everybody's saving so much money at the same time.

1191
00:37:59,360 --> 00:37:59,660
Right.

1192
00:37:59,780 --> 00:38:01,520
We need to go back to trading and bartering.

1193
00:38:01,660 --> 00:38:06,800
I feel like money became too easy to do everything.

1194
00:38:07,380 --> 00:38:09,400
And it's like too convenient

1195
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:10,740
now to

1196
00:38:10,740 --> 00:38:12,800
just excel and buy things

1197
00:38:13,420 --> 00:38:15,540
and just, oh, let me just turn it into currency,

1198
00:38:15,900 --> 00:38:17,540
instead of just trading up.

1199
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,860
Like those stupid penny, pen, like the,

1200
00:38:20,900 --> 00:38:23,340
you start with a pen and you trade up to a car

1201
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:24,840
or some house or some,

1202
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:25,380
like,

1203
00:38:25,460 --> 00:38:26,500
it's just, I don't know.

1204
00:38:26,720 --> 00:38:29,440
It just seems to equalize things for some reason.

1205
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:29,980
- I

1206
00:38:29,980 --> 00:38:31,440
wasn't sure if I was needed to have

1207
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,420
a food-related one or not.

1208
00:38:34,060 --> 00:38:34,160
(laughs)

1209
00:38:35,300 --> 00:38:38,140
- You did say that you had a not-so-serious one.

1210
00:38:38,180 --> 00:38:39,320
Do you want to do a doubleheader?

1211
00:38:39,580 --> 00:38:39,920
No pressure.

1212
00:38:40,340 --> 00:38:42,520
- Oh, this is the more serious one.

1213
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:42,860
(laughs)

1214
00:38:42,860 --> 00:38:44,120
It's just, it's like,

1215
00:38:44,240 --> 00:38:45,140
just 'cause

1216
00:38:45,140 --> 00:38:45,880
it's so technical.

1217
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:46,800
Oh.

1218
00:38:48,359 --> 00:38:48,720
(saxophone music)

1219
00:38:52,220 --> 00:38:53,100
- I've just been seeing,

1220
00:38:53,140 --> 00:38:55,520
you know how everybody's obsessed with protein recently?

1221
00:38:55,940 --> 00:38:56,640
- Oh yeah. - No.

1222
00:38:56,860 --> 00:38:57,460
- That's like the-- - I'm still.

1223
00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:58,060
- Okay.

1224
00:38:58,530 --> 00:38:58,620
- Sure.

1225
00:38:58,620 --> 00:38:58,720
- See,

1226
00:38:58,850 --> 00:38:59,420
I don't,

1227
00:38:59,740 --> 00:39:01,040
my problem is that I don't know

1228
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,160
how much of the media I'm consuming

1229
00:39:03,310 --> 00:39:05,460
is because I'm like in the food science scene

1230
00:39:05,460 --> 00:39:06,800
and how much of it is like mainstream.

1231
00:39:07,660 --> 00:39:08,360
- Yeah, totally.

1232
00:39:08,820 --> 00:39:11,900
- So in my eyes, everybody's obsessed with protein recently

1233
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,880
and especially when you are looking at food products,

1234
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:16,300
it's always, that's one of the things

1235
00:39:16,340 --> 00:39:17,240
that they always will try to list.

1236
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,240
Even like cereals, there's so many protein cereals now.

1237
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:21,600
If you go to the--

1238
00:39:21,720 --> 00:39:22,720
- That I have seen. - Protein cereals?

1239
00:39:22,860 --> 00:39:23,020
- If

1240
00:39:23,020 --> 00:39:23,380
you go

1241
00:39:23,380 --> 00:39:25,080
to Meyer and you just walk down

1242
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,260
the cereal section, it's so funny,

1243
00:39:27,340 --> 00:39:29,700
like the cereal section's turning into the wine section

1244
00:39:29,820 --> 00:39:32,080
and that the really expensive cereals are on the top

1245
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,240
and then like the cheap generic ones are at the bottom.

1246
00:39:35,500 --> 00:39:36,820
- It's so true. - And on top,

1247
00:39:37,260 --> 00:39:40,920
and on top are these $10 a box protein cereals

1248
00:39:41,460 --> 00:39:43,920
that are made with like, I don't know, pea protein,

1249
00:39:44,660 --> 00:39:47,560
egg white, just anything so that they can say,

1250
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,560
"16 grams of protein per bowl of

1251
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:50,600
cereal."

1252
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:54,420
But anyways, I'm seeing protein-dense products

1253
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,560
are trending, but what they don't tell you

1254
00:39:57,620 --> 00:39:59,240
is that a lot of plant proteins,

1255
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,240
the protein isn't as bioavailable

1256
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,520
because there's these things called anti-nutrients

1257
00:40:04,620 --> 00:40:06,420
that are found in legumes and plants

1258
00:40:06,540 --> 00:40:09,540
that inhibit your body's ability to absorb protein.

1259
00:40:10,140 --> 00:40:10,520
And

1260
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:11,540
so you

1261
00:40:11,540 --> 00:40:14,640
see all of these plant protein products

1262
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,200
that are trending and I feel like eventually

1263
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:18,760
that's gonna become common knowledge

1264
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:20,920
that just like, oh, plant protein, it's not the same as,

1265
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,900
and it already is in the fitness and influencer space.

1266
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,260
Like the carnivore diet, that was in response

1267
00:40:28,570 --> 00:40:30,700
to the amount of plant protein that's everywhere.

1268
00:40:30,820 --> 00:40:33,820
People are like, I'm just gonna eat meat and butter for--

1269
00:40:33,820 --> 00:40:34,580
- Ever. - Scott

1270
00:40:34,580 --> 00:40:35,080
looks confused.

1271
00:40:35,240 --> 00:40:36,980
Have you not seen the carnivore diet at all, Scott?

1272
00:40:38,340 --> 00:40:39,960
- From way back when, I'm still trying to figure out

1273
00:40:40,020 --> 00:40:42,800
the difference of the plant protein and not plant protein.

1274
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:44,140
- Okay, so it's

1275
00:40:44,140 --> 00:40:45,820
like, part of it's like amino acids.

1276
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:47,240
There's like that laundry list

1277
00:40:47,240 --> 00:40:48,820
of the different kinds of amino acids.

1278
00:40:49,260 --> 00:40:51,360
And meats have a ton of them,

1279
00:40:51,940 --> 00:40:53,520
whereas legumes only have like a few.

1280
00:40:53,940 --> 00:40:56,580
And it's not as easy for your body

1281
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,300
to do useful things with fewer amino acids.

1282
00:41:00,820 --> 00:41:01,120
- Got it.

1283
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:05,640
- So anyways, the research that I did for grad school

1284
00:41:05,820 --> 00:41:09,820
was taking plant proteins and fermenting them.

1285
00:41:10,300 --> 00:41:13,640
And the yeast that you use to ferment the proteins,

1286
00:41:13,980 --> 00:41:16,480
the yeast themselves produce a bunch of amino acids

1287
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:18,000
that are really beneficial.

1288
00:41:18,700 --> 00:41:22,300
So my invention, and I think it's starting to catch on,

1289
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,460
but I haven't seen it on any shelves yet,

1290
00:41:24,590 --> 00:41:26,220
is they need to start making

1291
00:41:26,900 --> 00:41:28,820
amino acid enhanced plant proteins.

1292
00:41:29,740 --> 00:41:30,260
- Wow.

1293
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:31,920
- Protein beer?

1294
00:41:32,050 --> 00:41:32,760
Is that what you're saying?

1295
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,420
- No, it's just like, it's taking plant protein,

1296
00:41:36,780 --> 00:41:38,320
fermenting it, and then selling it.

1297
00:41:38,900 --> 00:41:40,420
'cause it's like a much better product

1298
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,540
than just like the unfermented plant protein.

1299
00:41:42,900 --> 00:41:43,820
- We gotta cut this pitch out.

1300
00:41:44,060 --> 00:41:46,060
We can't put this out there, it's too good.

1301
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:47,480
This is incredible.

1302
00:41:47,980 --> 00:41:48,220
(laughing)

1303
00:41:48,740 --> 00:41:48,940
- Fully

1304
00:41:48,940 --> 00:41:49,560
grounded in

1305
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:49,800
reality.

1306
00:41:50,420 --> 00:41:51,360
- Yeah, it's too good.

1307
00:41:52,580 --> 00:41:55,660
- The thing is, I like want to make this so bad,

1308
00:41:55,740 --> 00:41:56,780
but in order to do this,

1309
00:41:56,780 --> 00:41:59,700
you have to have like all of this fermentation technology.

1310
00:41:59,940 --> 00:42:01,100
Like you have to have the - A

1311
00:42:01,100 --> 00:42:02,920
manufacturing supply chain. - Rent

1312
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:04,520
it, just rent it. - Rent

1313
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,060
it, use the bartering system.

1314
00:42:06,420 --> 00:42:11,960
I know they make, they make like those drawers that you use for like baker's yeast, like

1315
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:12,560
to make bread.

1316
00:42:12,700 --> 00:42:13,080
Bread drawers.

1317
00:42:13,380 --> 00:42:13,560
Proving.

1318
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:13,760
That would

1319
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:14,100
work.

1320
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:14,980
Yeah, proving drawer.

1321
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,460
That would, I could start with that maybe.

1322
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,860
The thing is, I don't know if people care enough about like any of the science of it

1323
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:21,220
to like They

1324
00:42:21,220 --> 00:42:22,940
just market it until they care. It

1325
00:42:22,940 --> 00:42:25,060
says 16 grams of protein. It's

1326
00:42:25,060 --> 00:42:26,400
good enough, right? Yeah.

1327
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:26,940
And then

1328
00:42:26,940 --> 00:42:31,620
like the yeast have all these other, not all yeast, like there's those like the candida

1329
00:42:31,620 --> 00:42:35,320
yeast that's like a pathogenic strain of yeast that's bad.

1330
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:36,340
- Who?

1331
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:38,280
- The like Saccharomyces yeast,

1332
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:39,420
they have all these health benefits,

1333
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,660
like they're anti-carcinogenic and antioxidants

1334
00:42:42,900 --> 00:42:43,860
and they improve your cholesterol.

1335
00:42:44,060 --> 00:42:46,420
And it's like, they do all of this crap that,

1336
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:48,860
but nobody's out there just like taking yeast supplements.

1337
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:49,340
So.

1338
00:42:49,620 --> 00:42:49,980
- Right.

1339
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:50,400
- Yeah.

1340
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:51,080
- This is like

1341
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:51,640
Russ said,

1342
00:42:51,720 --> 00:42:53,600
this is a branding exercise entirely.

1343
00:42:53,770 --> 00:42:55,560
You have to like figure out how to explain this

1344
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,780
to someone who's glancing at a box of cereal

1345
00:42:57,820 --> 00:42:58,580
next to the other

1346
00:42:58,580 --> 00:42:59,100
box of

1347
00:42:59,100 --> 00:42:59,380
cereal.

1348
00:42:59,740 --> 00:42:59,940
- Have you

1349
00:42:59,940 --> 00:43:01,000
made this before, Jackie?

1350
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:02,240
- Yeah, yeah, I have.

1351
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,480
- Does it taste like tea or like a protein shake or like?

1352
00:43:05,580 --> 00:43:08,440
- It tastes like, the yeast we used was like a relative

1353
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,180
of baker's yeast, so when you walk into the laboratory

1354
00:43:11,260 --> 00:43:12,740
it smells like a bakery, and the

1355
00:43:12,740 --> 00:43:13,720
products taste

1356
00:43:13,720 --> 00:43:14,120
like it,

1357
00:43:14,260 --> 00:43:14,900
taste like bread.

1358
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:19,420
- Can we use like cottage laws somehow,

1359
00:43:19,660 --> 00:43:21,300
just to get this on the market really quick?

1360
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,000
I'm just making this at home and selling it real quick.

1361
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,480
It's bakery bread, but protein.

1362
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:27,660
- So it

1363
00:43:27,660 --> 00:43:28,260
tastes like

1364
00:43:28,260 --> 00:43:28,540
bread?

1365
00:43:28,620 --> 00:43:29,080
- Yeah, so you can

1366
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:30,940
take like a really neutral plant,

1367
00:43:31,240 --> 00:43:32,920
tasting plant, like a chickpea,

1368
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:33,480
you

1369
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:33,600
can

1370
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:34,620
add the yeast to it,

1371
00:43:34,700 --> 00:43:36,000
And after a three day fermentation,

1372
00:43:36,540 --> 00:43:38,760
the chickpeas would smell like bread and taste like bread.

1373
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:40,660
The texture is the hard part.

1374
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:44,540
- So you would take pea protein, sugar, water,

1375
00:43:44,900 --> 00:43:46,840
and yeast and make a bread drink.

1376
00:43:47,170 --> 00:43:48,200
- You don't have to add sugar

1377
00:43:48,300 --> 00:43:49,420
'cause there's already like carbohydrates.

1378
00:43:49,980 --> 00:43:51,320
- You had me until drink.

1379
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:52,220
Why drink?

1380
00:43:52,220 --> 00:43:52,720
- Yeah, drink.

1381
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:53,700
- You want bread drink?

1382
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:54,920
- Well, I don't know yet.

1383
00:43:55,340 --> 00:43:55,960
I don't know.

1384
00:43:56,500 --> 00:43:59,100
It might be, like, if you drink protein shakes

1385
00:43:59,100 --> 00:44:00,100
every day,

1386
00:44:00,720 --> 00:44:03,660
like anything, give me anything, right?

1387
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:04,280
- Yeah.

1388
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,320
- Like this would be the alternative.

1389
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:07,980
This would be like the slow drip.

1390
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,080
Like, you know how people drink coffee in the morning

1391
00:44:10,240 --> 00:44:12,520
and then like a little tea in the afternoon.

1392
00:44:12,780 --> 00:44:16,060
This would be the, like the second drink, you know,

1393
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:19,080
you're, I'm guessing here, but like you're maintaining,

1394
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,180
you don't want to take all your protein at once.

1395
00:44:21,180 --> 00:44:23,620
You kind of want to do certain protein in the morning

1396
00:44:24,060 --> 00:44:25,300
and then certain protein in the evening.

1397
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,780
And maybe this would be like the lunch pick me up,

1398
00:44:29,140 --> 00:44:30,020
throw a little caffeine,

1399
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,160
a little Celsius branding on there maybe.

1400
00:44:32,300 --> 00:44:35,720
and you have like, Mr. Beast is there.

1401
00:44:36,740 --> 00:44:38,980
Well, I mean, like you have the caffeinated versions

1402
00:44:39,340 --> 00:44:41,160
that have protein, but then like how much protein

1403
00:44:41,240 --> 00:44:43,600
would be in there, like 20, 16 grams or something?

1404
00:44:43,660 --> 00:44:47,020
That's still better than like not having a protein drink.

1405
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:47,440
Right?

1406
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:48,300
I don't know.

1407
00:44:48,380 --> 00:44:49,480
I think this is like legit.

1408
00:44:49,860 --> 00:44:52,820
These cereal companies are taking some protein powder

1409
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,000
or whatever and just like adding it in.

1410
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:58,900
It's not like an integral to the recipe, I imagine.

1411
00:44:59,040 --> 00:44:59,180
Right?

1412
00:44:59,380 --> 00:45:00,460
For a lot of these cereals and

1413
00:45:00,460 --> 00:45:00,720
stuff.

1414
00:45:00,740 --> 00:45:02,720
Some of them are like legume based,

1415
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,180
but they're not fermenting it.

1416
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,180
We'll just be like, I don't even know.

1417
00:45:07,700 --> 00:45:09,820
- I was wondering if you could market this

1418
00:45:09,980 --> 00:45:13,880
directly to the Kelloggs and General Millses of the world.

1419
00:45:14,190 --> 00:45:15,820
If you had your really cool

1420
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,400
enhanced plant protein alternative that you could say,

1421
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:20,740
hey, if you use my product,

1422
00:45:20,860 --> 00:45:24,000
then your cereals or whatever it is that they make,

1423
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:25,960
your oatmeal is like,

1424
00:45:26,270 --> 00:45:26,900
you can market

1425
00:45:26,900 --> 00:45:28,240
that it has extra benefits.

1426
00:45:28,940 --> 00:45:31,340
It has antioxidants now because of my cool thing.

1427
00:45:31,720 --> 00:45:33,580
- That's one of the sad parts of being a food scientist,

1428
00:45:33,740 --> 00:45:36,580
if you come up with any technology while you're at the

1429
00:45:36,720 --> 00:45:39,200
company, it usually just belongs to the company too.

1430
00:45:39,420 --> 00:45:41,020
So you gotta do it independently.

1431
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:42,580
- You share it on Spitball,

1432
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:44,840
and then one of the people on Spitball takes it.

1433
00:45:45,690 --> 00:45:45,800
(laughing)

1434
00:45:45,810 --> 00:45:47,420
- And then they cut you a commission.

1435
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,620
- I thought you were gonna say the sad part is that

1436
00:45:49,860 --> 00:45:51,760
people don't give a crap about nutrition.

1437
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:53,040
(laughing)

1438
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:56,820
Still got a Whopper for lunch.

1439
00:45:58,260 --> 00:45:59,920
- This magic spoon

1440
00:45:59,920 --> 00:46:02,160
cereal is made of milk protein,

1441
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,280
which just sounds so unappealing,

1442
00:46:04,460 --> 00:46:06,920
like a nice big bowl of milk protein.

1443
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:08,460
- Okay, have you guys had that before?

1444
00:46:08,580 --> 00:46:11,080
I've never had it, I hear ads for it all the time.

1445
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,440
- I have had it before, it's hard.

1446
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:16,300
Every one of the ones that I had

1447
00:46:16,380 --> 00:46:18,400
was like a work out of the jaw.

1448
00:46:18,510 --> 00:46:21,860
It was fine, it wasn't milk tasting or whatever,

1449
00:46:22,140 --> 00:46:25,760
it was like a lightly sweetened Reese's Puffs alternative

1450
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:27,020
or whatever.

1451
00:46:27,380 --> 00:46:32,060
They had it at Costco and then there was something about it though, like the aftertaste had this

1452
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:36,240
like, I don't know, this like chemically, it had like a

1453
00:46:36,240 --> 00:46:38,200
chemically aftertaste

1454
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:38,680
to it

1455
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:43,500
that you like, maybe because I just love Froot Loops and like, and that one I got was Froot

1456
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:47,740
Loops base and you're just like, this is not Froot Loops and it's too, something about

1457
00:46:47,740 --> 00:46:50,560
it was like the artificial about it was really prominent.

1458
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,660
They really had to try to make it taste good or something because it was like keto friendly

1459
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:56,560
or whatever and it was at Costco and I've always.

1460
00:46:56,900 --> 00:46:57,120
- Wait, is

1461
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:58,780
that the Catalina Crunch one?

1462
00:46:59,060 --> 00:46:59,200
- Oh,

1463
00:46:59,300 --> 00:47:00,720
the Catalina Crunch one?

1464
00:47:00,830 --> 00:47:00,960
I

1465
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:01,820
know that one too.

1466
00:47:02,260 --> 00:47:03,040
I've gotten that.

1467
00:47:03,500 --> 00:47:04,620
- That one's horrible.

1468
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:05,800
- So bad.

1469
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:07,500
- I've tried that one.

1470
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:09,960
I don't know what that one's made of.

1471
00:47:10,140 --> 00:47:11,360
- Anything keto friendly that,

1472
00:47:11,820 --> 00:47:13,860
like I got keto brownies back in the day.

1473
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:14,560
Those were awful.

1474
00:47:14,730 --> 00:47:16,440
They need more Stevia in all of it or something.

1475
00:47:16,860 --> 00:47:17,400
Is Stevia

1476
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:18,160
okay for

1477
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:19,180
you, by the way, Jackie?

1478
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaking of.

1479
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:20,820
- For Stevia?

1480
00:47:20,900 --> 00:47:21,140
- Asking

1481
00:47:21,140 --> 00:47:22,080
real questions now.

1482
00:47:22,140 --> 00:47:22,240
- Yeah.

1483
00:47:22,530 --> 00:47:23,220
Is it like awesome?

1484
00:47:23,370 --> 00:47:24,340
Is it like a miracle sugar?

1485
00:47:24,839 --> 00:47:25,700
- It's fine, yeah.

1486
00:47:25,900 --> 00:47:33,940
There's like, well, that's the thing that's really complicated in the food world is that like every single ingredient, there will be some research like demonizing it.

1487
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,680
And then there will be other research being like, it's amazing.

1488
00:47:36,780 --> 00:47:37,640
It's so good for you.

1489
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,740
But there isn't there isn't enough bad

1490
00:47:40,740 --> 00:47:41,540
press

1491
00:47:41,540 --> 00:47:42,280
on

1492
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,020
Stevia yet to be, yeah, to be of concern.

1493
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:45,460
Cool.

1494
00:47:45,540 --> 00:47:46,560
Because I feed my kids.

1495
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:47,780
We got a couple more years at least, Russell.

1496
00:47:47,860 --> 00:47:52,960
I feed my kids Zevia drinks because it's like, I guess it's better than anything else.

1497
00:47:53,060 --> 00:47:53,180
Right?

1498
00:47:53,240 --> 00:47:53,560
Yeah.

1499
00:47:54,020 --> 00:47:57,700
I would, Jackie, I think you should make a couple and let us try it or something.

1500
00:47:57,940 --> 00:47:58,200
I think

1501
00:47:58,200 --> 00:47:58,460
it's actually pretty good.

1502
00:47:58,460 --> 00:47:58,820
We'll send

1503
00:47:58,820 --> 00:47:59,120
free

1504
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:00,040
samples to our listeners.

1505
00:48:00,220 --> 00:48:00,340
There

1506
00:48:00,340 --> 00:48:00,620
it is.

1507
00:48:00,620 --> 00:48:00,940
Yeah.

1508
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:01,540
You

1509
00:48:01,540 --> 00:48:02,220
heard it here first.

1510
00:48:02,340 --> 00:48:06,540
Are there a bunch of different protein drinks out there besides protein shakes?

1511
00:48:06,780 --> 00:48:08,920
Like I only think of like the protein shakes.

1512
00:48:09,380 --> 00:48:10,080
Oh my God.

1513
00:48:10,180 --> 00:48:13,560
New high protein, low calorie beer targets gym goers.

1514
00:48:14,180 --> 00:48:15,360
It's called Barbell Brew.

1515
00:48:15,980 --> 00:48:16,300
Yeah.

1516
00:48:17,420 --> 00:48:17,680
Okay.

1517
00:48:17,720 --> 00:48:18,220
That's pretty good.

1518
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:19,020
That's good.

1519
00:48:19,580 --> 00:48:19,980
Amazing.

1520
00:48:20,540 --> 00:48:26,280
Well, dear listener, if you're enjoying our podcast over a bowl of Buff Bites

1521
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:30,700
protein cereal, we hope you enjoyed yourself. Thank you very much for listening. And thank

1522
00:48:30,700 --> 00:48:33,000
you so much, Jackie, for joining us. This was so fun.

1523
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:35,720
This was so much fun. I'll do another one.

1524
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:36,580
Yes, please. We'd

1525
00:48:36,580 --> 00:48:42,160
love to have you. Our website is Spitball.show. There you can find links to

1526
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:46,400
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1527
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:51,400
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1528
00:48:51,490 --> 00:48:57,120
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1529
00:48:57,220 --> 00:49:02,280
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1530
00:49:02,620 --> 00:49:10,640
that one friend of yours who is too much of a gym rat and they are always screaming as they throw

1531
00:49:10,780 --> 00:49:15,660
down the weights and you're like, "Ugh, I wish that they weren't so into being at the gym." You

1532
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:16,640
You need to distract them.

1533
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:17,580
They need a distraction.

1534
00:49:17,780 --> 00:49:20,380
And if you could send them our show so that they have something to listen to

1535
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:22,080
while they're working out, that would be really helpful.

1536
00:49:23,300 --> 00:49:26,520
If you wouldn't mind also leave us a review, Apple podcast, Spotify, wherever

1537
00:49:26,580 --> 00:49:27,680
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1538
00:49:28,180 --> 00:49:31,040
If you could add subscribe, whatever buttons next to the name of the show,

1539
00:49:31,180 --> 00:49:31,680
that would be helpful.

1540
00:49:32,380 --> 00:49:34,660
A new episode is coming out in two weeks.

1541
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:35,780
We will see you then.

1542
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:47,180
I accidentally dropped something at Planet Fitness once and then somebody did the lung pull-up.

1543
00:49:47,620 --> 00:49:47,940
Really?

1544
00:49:50,020 --> 00:49:55,460
I like, accidentally, it was a total accident. It was like, you're not supposed to, oh, it was like the lap pull-down

1545
00:49:55,720 --> 00:49:59,900
and then I like thought that it was all the way up and then I dropped it and it like slammed and then somebody

1546
00:49:59,900 --> 00:50:00,100
did

1547
00:50:00,100 --> 00:50:00,820
the lung pull-up.

1548
00:50:01,620 --> 00:50:02,100
It was you.

1549
00:50:02,100 --> 00:50:03,000
That's body shaming.

1550
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:04,960
I was like, I'm never coming back here.

1551
00:50:05,140 --> 00:50:06,040
(laughing)