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I'm Scott.

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I'm Russell.

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And I'm Leo.

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This is Spitball.

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Welcome to Spitball, where three groundbreaking geeks and a guest empty our heads of startup

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and tech product ideas that we have stuck up in there so you can all have them for free.

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Anything that we say is yours to keep.

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Scott, I believe you brought our guest this week.

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Who'd

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you bring?

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- I did, guys.

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I'm very excited to finally bring on the show,

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the David Webster.

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David, not only a long time friend,

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but also professional percussionist.

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He's the drummer behind the weirdo death doom metal madness

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that is Slugchild.

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You know, if the name Slugchild's familiar,

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it's because the new hit single "Love Leech" I believe,

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just hit the

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Billboard Top 100 on

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Spotify this week.

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We have been

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trying

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to book him

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ever since this show started.

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We're very excited to have David Webster.

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- Now you have a

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hard

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stop in 50 minutes

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for

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going to Rolling Stone, right?

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- 15

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actually, yeah, sorry.

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(laughing)

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I'm so busy, you know, with all of my--

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- Thank you for being here, David.

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- Yeah, no worries.

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- This is gonna be a good time.

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- My Spotify millions has turned me

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into a really selfish, rancid person, yeah.

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(laughing)

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- We've all gotta have a hobby, and mine's being rancid.

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my hobby is getting paid for playing music.

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That's my main hobby.

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Making royalties.

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Well, in addition to being an excellent musician, sir,

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I always tell my friends that I can always tell

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when David's been at a party that I've hosted

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because when I go to do my returns,

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there's these weird ass

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beer cans

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that can't be accepted anywhere

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because you are an enthusiast of

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adult

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beverages.

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So to get us warmed up today,

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I wrote a little game for us

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that I'm gonna call Algorithms.

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Great.

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In this one, I'm just gonna list a word.

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You're gonna tell me, is it a Midwestern beer

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made by someone in one of our neighboring states here,

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or is it a programming language?

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(laughing)

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I love this.

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This is great.

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And we gotta start always as we do with David, our guest.

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David. Okay.

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Crystal, programming language or beer?

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Or drug.

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Or Pepsi.

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Oh, I mean, it's certainly Pepsi.

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It's a Pepsi.

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I'm gonna say,

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I'm going to say obscure programming language.

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It's an obscure programming language.

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A Ruby-inspired

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language with a focus on speed and type

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safety.

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Very good.

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That tracks.

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That tracks.

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Scott, Cascadian.

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I'm going to go beer on that one.

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just can't--

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It's a beer.

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It's a style of beer.

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David is already nodding.

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David's going to--

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No, I don't know it.

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I'm just agreeing with you.

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Very good.

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Found in various Midwestern breweries.

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Russell, Cobra.

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Oh, man.

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That's both.

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Is that a trick question?

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That is both.

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- Triple checked,

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maybe there is somewhere,

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but in the Midwest is where I tried to limit it down to.

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- I'm gonna say then, oh man.

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- Cobra.

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- I'm gonna say coding language.

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is, very good.

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Object oriented for.NET.

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That's three for three, right?

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Well done, okay, this should get

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harder.

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- Let's go beat the game.

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(laughing)

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Ooh, let's go.

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- Dastard.

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(laughing)

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- Getting cocky

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in round one.

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David, Bodhi, B-O-D-H-I.

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I'm gonna say that's programming language.

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- Columbus Brewing Company in Ohio.

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Condolences.

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- Dermot!

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(laughing)

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- I'm out! - Storm off.

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- Yeah, I'm outta here.

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He's gotta write a song.

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- Scott,

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mosaic.

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- Ooh, everything in me is screaming beer,

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but I have to do the opposite of what I say,

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so I'm gonna say programming language.

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- It is very good.

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- Nice. - Strategy, guys.

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- Damn, Scott, you figured this out.

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- 'Cause it would be mosaic, hopped, IPA.

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- 37 episodes.

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(laughing)

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- Russell, Matilda.

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- Oh man, that's a beer.

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That's gotta be a beer.

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- Goose Island, Illinois, very

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good.

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- Okay,

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that's right.

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- Way to go guys.

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- David,

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Dart.

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- I'm gonna say beer.

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- It's a programming language from Google.

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- Fuck.

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- It's a UI development one, yeah.

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- Scott, Pike, P-I-K-E.

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- Going beer.

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- It's another programming language.

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- Ah, okay, see?

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- Is it a four letter word?

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- Programming language.

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Well, these are all Russell Vala, V-A-L-A.

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V-A-L-A.

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This is the four letter round.

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That's a programming language.

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It is, developed by Gnome.

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Yes, very good.

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Last time through, David Enigma.

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Beer.

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Yeah, New Glarus in Wisconsin.

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You've probably had all of these.

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I don't know.

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Scott

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Groovy.

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That's got to be a beer.

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programming language.

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Runs on JVM, yeah.

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Very good.

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What?

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Yeah, condolences.

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And then Russell, furious.

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Oh,

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that's a beer.

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Yeah, surly brewing in Minnesota.

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David-- oh, oh, come on.

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Oh, I called David--

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It's good.

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It's good.

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So if you got it, does that mean that Russell, you got all four?

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Did you?

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so.

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I think he did.

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Did I get all four?

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Damn.

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have.

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Although I never keep track during these.

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Don't worry about it.

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Well done.

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Russell, does that mean you go first

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or you pick who goes first?

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We've never really figured out what

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the prize is.

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Yeah, he gets to decide.

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And Leo, I'm always impressed.

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Not only do you come each week with an idea to pitch,

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but you gotta come up with a game as well.

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Well done, Randy.

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The door's

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always open if one of you guys

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wants to.

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(laughing)

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of you guys wants to

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do something.

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come on, to collaborate, co-collaborate.

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(laughing)

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I'll go first.

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Do it. That's fine.

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Hit us, go ahead Russell.

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All right guys, so as you know,

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I do my yearly patronage out to Florida

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for a couple weeks.

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Ah yes, welcome back.

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Patronage.

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Is that what it is?

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In your retirement,

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yeah.

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What's the word?

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Your--

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Your snowbird.

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Pilgrimage.

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That's the word, pilgrimage.

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That's what

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I yearly pilgrimage out to

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Florida.

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To the holy land of Tampa, Florida, or wherever.

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That's right, yes.

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more of a Gulf of America guy.

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Insane,

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right?

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to see that for the first time.

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- I'm used to seeing the Mexico version.

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I brought this up in the past,

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but they have these awesome sailboats

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called Hobie Cats, they're catamarans.

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And these boats are basically two car boys

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and a trampoline between them

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with a sail,

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all right?

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- There you go.

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or like, you know, two inflatable tubes.

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And I'm like, basically I want to disrupt

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the pontoon industry through these Hobie Cat pontoon boats.

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They fold

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up, they collapse on each other, right?

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the whole thing is basically, yeah,

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two tubes, two metal pipes, and a piece of fabric

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that keeps everybody together.

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throw a motor on that thing, and you're off, right?

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The pontoon boats of today are like 30 grand, like new.

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And it just blows my mind.

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- Right, they have all that disgusting electricity

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and like, you know.

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- Cushions.

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- Seats, yeah, a steering mechanism.

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- Yeah, right.

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- Hate that shit, it sucks.

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- Sorry, you weren't

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- Ruins the boating vibe.

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you

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put that in a plastic

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bag, all right?

293
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Everybody's got those, all right?

294
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(laughing)

295
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These sailboats are like, what,

296
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I think they're five grand maybe?

297
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- Sure.

298
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- 10, 15, it depends on how you're looking at it.

299
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But I just don't see why you can't create

300
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a collapsible, cheaper pontoon boat

301
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using, you know, like the smart car of

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pontoon boats,

303
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but not

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as lame.

305
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So,

306
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and then you have, right, a rudder, you know,

307
00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:05,440
- Just the millennial version of a pontoon boat,

308
00:08:05,700 --> 00:08:06,220
because listen,

309
00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,560
only the boomers can afford the real ones.

310
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- That's factual.

311
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- I'm

312
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out here like dreaming and drooling

313
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over a collapsible boat and not a dinghy.

314
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Those things are just

315
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nobody deserves.

316
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- A collapsible party boat.

317
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- Yes.

318
00:08:22,460 --> 00:08:22,860
- Hell yeah.

319
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- And then it can collapse when you're having a party on it.

320
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That's like.

321
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- No, you have some industrial

322
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metal

323
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pontoons.

324
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You know what I mean?

325
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Can you

326
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elaborate

327
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what

328
00:08:33,620 --> 00:08:34,560
you mean by collapse?

329
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I'm having trouble picturing this.

330
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I want to fit this in the back of my car.

331
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Like the two just come together.

332
00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:39,260
OK.

333
00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:39,700
Yes.

334
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So you want

335
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it to somehow lock into place,

336
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and then unlock, and then fold up or something?

337
00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:46,980
I'm saving on shipping costs, right?

338
00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,240
And so-- hey, get it?

339
00:08:49,460 --> 00:08:49,660
Boat,

340
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shipping.

341
00:08:50,020 --> 00:08:50,460
Yeah, Ikea boat,

342
00:08:50,660 --> 00:08:50,960
shipping.

343
00:08:51,140 --> 00:08:51,520
Yeah, a

344
00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,380
little bit of an Ikea boat assembly kind of thing.

345
00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:56,440
But it also adds to the portability.

346
00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:58,760
You can throw it on the roof of your car.

347
00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:00,400
Car.

348
00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:01,780
or you know what I mean?

349
00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:01,960
Like

350
00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:02,420
something like

351
00:09:02,420 --> 00:09:05,040
two, you can put two kayaks on a car.

352
00:09:05,540 --> 00:09:07,600
Why can't you make a pontoon boat

353
00:09:07,780 --> 00:09:09,340
that works kind of like that?

354
00:09:09,680 --> 00:09:10,060
- Boom. - Interesting.

355
00:09:10,560 --> 00:09:10,660
- Okay.

356
00:09:11,020 --> 00:09:13,100
- Russell, I think you could seriously do this

357
00:09:13,180 --> 00:09:14,120
with some tent poles.

358
00:09:14,460 --> 00:09:16,040
Okay, like something stronger than tent poles,

359
00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:17,820
but that idea that you build them on itself

360
00:09:17,900 --> 00:09:19,460
and like two inflatable kayaks.

361
00:09:19,899 --> 00:09:21,800
Fully, like that

362
00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:22,740
whole thing could fit

363
00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:24,780
into a duffel bag at that point.

364
00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:26,220
And then you just need an air compressor,

365
00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:27,900
a car battery and a trolling motor.

366
00:09:28,759 --> 00:09:30,060
- Yes, thank you Scott.

367
00:09:30,060 --> 00:09:30,260
- I'd buy water

368
00:09:30,260 --> 00:09:31,580
for $300, man.

369
00:09:32,680 --> 00:09:34,060
- Yes, and it's like a bed.

370
00:09:34,140 --> 00:09:36,580
And dude, what if you turn that into a camping tent?

371
00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:38,060
Somebody said this.

372
00:09:38,540 --> 00:09:40,320
The tent pole is like, why

373
00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:40,520
not

374
00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:42,300
sleep on the water?

375
00:09:43,380 --> 00:09:43,780
- That's fun.

376
00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,800
- Because you can't sleep in a kayak, really, I don't

377
00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:47,220
think.

378
00:09:47,680 --> 00:09:48,540
- But it's like a hammock

379
00:09:48,540 --> 00:09:49,940
in between the two kayaks.

380
00:09:50,220 --> 00:09:50,660
That's nice.

381
00:09:50,780 --> 00:09:51,920
- Throw a little anchor on the end.

382
00:09:52,100 --> 00:09:52,460
That sounds

383
00:09:52,460 --> 00:09:52,980
amazing.

384
00:09:53,340 --> 00:09:53,600
- It does

385
00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:54,060
sound amazing.

386
00:09:54,380 --> 00:09:55,020
- Poles are rigid.

387
00:09:55,090 --> 00:09:56,440
They keep the two sides apart.

388
00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:57,120
Oh, yeah, this could

389
00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:57,420
work.

390
00:09:57,920 --> 00:09:58,740
- You know what's funny, too?

391
00:09:58,860 --> 00:10:00,700
I think you can just park your

392
00:10:00,700 --> 00:10:02,120
boat in the middle of the lake

393
00:10:02,180 --> 00:10:03,920
and no fees, right?

394
00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:05,360
You can moor it out there.

395
00:10:06,140 --> 00:10:07,880
You'd have to add an anchor to your whole contraption,

396
00:10:08,020 --> 00:10:08,600
but we could do it.

397
00:10:08,780 --> 00:10:09,140
Yeah.

398
00:10:09,620 --> 00:10:10,740
I mean, that's free living.

399
00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:14,040
Like, no property taxes.

400
00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,140
Buy a PO box, and you're gone.

401
00:10:16,500 --> 00:10:17,040
You just buy

402
00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,140
an actual tent and put it on top in the water.

403
00:10:19,180 --> 00:10:19,360
Right.

404
00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:20,060
Right.

405
00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,460
Do people-- like, houseboats, I guess they don't moor it,

406
00:10:23,930 --> 00:10:24,020
right?

407
00:10:24,100 --> 00:10:25,060
They don't do what I--

408
00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:26,200
do crazy shit like

409
00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:26,300
that.

410
00:10:26,300 --> 00:10:27,080
You could.

411
00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:27,580
Yeah.

412
00:10:27,980 --> 00:10:28,180
You just

413
00:10:28,180 --> 00:10:29,840
got to have supplies, right?

414
00:10:30,100 --> 00:10:32,020
Houseboats have that electricity, though.

415
00:10:32,100 --> 00:10:32,340
They got to

416
00:10:32,340 --> 00:10:32,820
plug in.

417
00:10:32,940 --> 00:10:33,520
Yeah, they have that

418
00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:36,300
filthy refrigeration

419
00:10:36,300 --> 00:10:36,860
technology.

420
00:10:36,930 --> 00:10:37,520
It sucks.

421
00:10:37,680 --> 00:10:39,540
Have they solved for that yet, electricity?

422
00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:41,780
They're working on it.

423
00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:43,840
Batteries, I guess.

424
00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:44,860
Solar cells.

425
00:10:45,140 --> 00:10:45,380
Yeah.

426
00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:52,200
I mean, if you had an OK solar array that wasn't like 10,000

427
00:10:52,460 --> 00:10:53,120
pounds, you know?

428
00:10:53,580 --> 00:10:54,340
There's some cheap thin

429
00:10:54,340 --> 00:10:54,940
ones out there

430
00:10:54,940 --> 00:10:55,320
you can get on

431
00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:56,260
AliExpress now.

432
00:10:56,740 --> 00:10:57,900
It's gotten a lot better.

433
00:10:58,340 --> 00:11:00,080
This might be my privilege talking,

434
00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,700
but I can think of at least two people in my life

435
00:11:02,740 --> 00:11:04,860
who've bought a kayak or a canoe

436
00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:06,440
and don't really use it anymore.

437
00:11:06,700 --> 00:11:08,020
It sits in a garage or something.

438
00:11:08,460 --> 00:11:08,520
So

439
00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:09,620
yeah, okay, you're one of them, David.

440
00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:11,460
Okay. Inflatable, but yes.

441
00:11:11,680 --> 00:11:11,920
Sure.

442
00:11:12,100 --> 00:11:13,900
What about if your business, Russell,

443
00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:15,900
sold the conversion kit,

444
00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:17,860
where you have the, like,

445
00:11:18,180 --> 00:11:20,040
you attach the rods and stuff

446
00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,140
onto what you already have gathering dust

447
00:11:22,260 --> 00:11:23,820
up in that attic in a garage

448
00:11:23,820 --> 00:11:25,680
that you haven't gotten out in two or three seasons.

449
00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:27,600
do something new with that thing

450
00:11:27,660 --> 00:11:28,920
that you don't know what to do with.

451
00:11:28,940 --> 00:11:29,520
- I like that.

452
00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:30,040
- I want

453
00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:31,460
on Craig's list for 50 bucks

454
00:11:31,660 --> 00:11:34,340
and lash it to your other one that you've got.

455
00:11:34,820 --> 00:11:36,080
Reduce, reuse, recycle.

456
00:11:36,700 --> 00:11:37,160
- I like that.

457
00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:38,680
- This is why we spit ballio,

458
00:11:38,940 --> 00:11:39,340
yes.

459
00:11:41,140 --> 00:11:42,900
- Then you're on the hook for like,

460
00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,780
I don't know, when it goes catastrophically wrong

461
00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:47,260
when they have two different kayaks

462
00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:48,840
or they're puncturing holes in their

463
00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:49,400
inflatable

464
00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:49,780
thing

465
00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:51,100
then trying to go out on the water.

466
00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,799
- No, no, you have the obviously legally binding

467
00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,480
user agreement that they don't read when they sign it.

468
00:11:57,700 --> 00:11:57,940
There's a

469
00:11:57,940 --> 00:11:58,520
sticker on

470
00:11:58,520 --> 00:11:59,400
it that says, do not

471
00:11:59,400 --> 00:11:59,840
use.

472
00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:00,900
Do not use ever.

473
00:12:01,340 --> 00:12:02,300
Don't sue us.

474
00:12:02,700 --> 00:12:04,740
Also, you can't,

475
00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:05,240
OK?

476
00:12:06,780 --> 00:12:09,580
But like, yeah, hypothetically, you get--

477
00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:11,420
man, actually, if it's light enough--

478
00:12:11,420 --> 00:12:12,080
I mean, a conversion

479
00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:13,140
kit would be--

480
00:12:13,140 --> 00:12:15,220
yeah, if you're just selling a conversion kit,

481
00:12:15,260 --> 00:12:16,920
I don't think you're really responsible,

482
00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,980
because it's someone--

483
00:12:20,220 --> 00:12:22,060
they're DIYing it, you know what I mean?

484
00:12:22,100 --> 00:12:22,940
You just sell the kit.

485
00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,200
they're responsible for their own shoddy workmanship, right?

486
00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:28,220
A master never blames his

487
00:12:28,220 --> 00:12:28,420
tools.

488
00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:29,480
Basically a bag

489
00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:30,820
of Menards supplies,

490
00:12:31,180 --> 00:12:31,340
right?

491
00:12:31,500 --> 00:12:32,300
Some Lowe's

492
00:12:32,300 --> 00:12:32,960
screws

493
00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:34,500
and a rod.

494
00:12:35,180 --> 00:12:37,080
Have you bought furniture any time

495
00:12:37,300 --> 00:12:38,780
in like the last six years?

496
00:12:39,260 --> 00:12:39,760
Yeah, that's true.

497
00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:41,080
That's all furniture is.

498
00:12:41,540 --> 00:12:45,080
Yeah, you are the Ikea of hammock on the water.

499
00:12:45,540 --> 00:12:45,800
Yes.

500
00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,700
Is there a way to do collapsible boats?

501
00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:49,400
Well,

502
00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:50,720
that's a great, okay, David,

503
00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:52,080
you have an inflatable kayak.

504
00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:52,460
How

505
00:12:52,460 --> 00:12:53,080
small could

506
00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:53,740
you get that guy?

507
00:12:54,799 --> 00:12:59,520
It becomes like, let's see, probably about a foot around

508
00:13:00,399 --> 00:13:03,180
and like 2 and 1/2 feet long.

509
00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:03,880
OK.

510
00:13:04,180 --> 00:13:05,300
2 and 1/2 feet long?

511
00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:06,220
Queen size air mattress.

512
00:13:06,340 --> 00:13:07,000
That's pretty short.

513
00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:08,020
Like smashed

514
00:13:08,020 --> 00:13:08,980
into the bag.

515
00:13:09,100 --> 00:13:11,360
Yeah, because I mean, there's still a fair amount of material.

516
00:13:11,560 --> 00:13:15,880
Guys, have you seen those gigantic unicorn or inflatables

517
00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:17,360
that fit six or eight people?

518
00:13:17,680 --> 00:13:18,220
Yeah, my mom

519
00:13:18,220 --> 00:13:19,180
has a paddle board

520
00:13:19,180 --> 00:13:19,520
that you

521
00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:20,100
You can have like

522
00:13:20,100 --> 00:13:22,140
four people comfortably seated on

523
00:13:22,220 --> 00:13:22,860
or standing

524
00:13:22,860 --> 00:13:23,820
on, walking around.

525
00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:25,120
It's like a tank.

526
00:13:25,300 --> 00:13:25,640
It's awesome.

527
00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:26,480
It's cool.

528
00:13:27,020 --> 00:13:30,300
So maybe we just need like an attachment that--

529
00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:31,940
Is this for turning it into

530
00:13:31,940 --> 00:13:32,760
a sailboat

531
00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:33,280
mechanism?

532
00:13:33,460 --> 00:13:35,060
What is the attachment doing for us here?

533
00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:36,800
OK.

534
00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:39,440
I'm spinning this hard now.

535
00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:40,360
All right.

536
00:13:41,020 --> 00:13:41,560
What is it?

537
00:13:41,620 --> 00:13:42,040
A jet ski.

538
00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:46,000
So imagine a jet ski, but remote controlled, without--

539
00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:47,640
like it just sits in front of you and pulls

540
00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:48,300
your boat.

541
00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:50,100
I've seen that for water skiing.

542
00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,200
There's like a little individual jet ski like thing

543
00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,680
that's autonomous that you can go water skiing behind.

544
00:13:55,140 --> 00:13:56,660
And the handle that you're holding onto

545
00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:57,880
has controls on it.

546
00:13:58,360 --> 00:13:59,040
See, it's been solved.

547
00:13:59,380 --> 00:14:00,100
We don't need to worry about

548
00:14:00,100 --> 00:14:00,860
electricity anymore.

549
00:14:01,340 --> 00:14:02,460
We just create two

550
00:14:02,460 --> 00:14:03,320
kayaks and an adapter.

551
00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:03,340
No.

552
00:14:04,699 --> 00:14:05,100
[LAUGHTER]

553
00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:06,160
I don't

554
00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:06,520
know what they're running.

555
00:14:06,540 --> 00:14:06,780
We need

556
00:14:06,780 --> 00:14:07,620
gas now, right?

557
00:14:08,140 --> 00:14:09,680
Can you make it roll coal?

558
00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:13,140
Slap a diesel engine

559
00:14:13,140 --> 00:14:13,660
on it.

560
00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:17,480
You ready to go out for a calm afternoon summering on the lake?

561
00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:18,580
(imitates boat engine revving)

562
00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,660
- Mount a giant steel tailpipe

563
00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:26,080
on the back

564
00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:26,680
of your rubber

565
00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:27,240
inflatable.

566
00:14:29,060 --> 00:14:29,460
(laughing)

567
00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:31,620
- Do you think those could

568
00:14:31,620 --> 00:14:32,160
pull though?

569
00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:33,080
- Drive aggressively

570
00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:34,100
around sailboats

571
00:14:34,180 --> 00:14:34,920
cause you're mad at a

572
00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:35,260
sailboat.

573
00:14:35,460 --> 00:14:35,760
- You gotta

574
00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:37,040
get eight of them Russel,

575
00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:37,620
and on

576
00:14:37,620 --> 00:14:39,680
Dasher and Dancer and just be all holding up

577
00:14:39,740 --> 00:14:40,480
in front for you.

578
00:14:41,380 --> 00:14:42,200
- And then you die.

579
00:14:42,580 --> 00:14:44,320
Then you disintegrate when you hit the water.

580
00:14:44,740 --> 00:14:46,700
Yeah, why do all boats push?

581
00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:47,760
There's got to be

582
00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:48,340
some reason,

583
00:14:48,820 --> 00:14:49,560
some scientific reason.

584
00:14:50,020 --> 00:14:51,580
Like, why are they always in the back of the boat pushing?

585
00:14:51,660 --> 00:14:53,000
Why can't we just have one that's pulling?

586
00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:55,180
Frickin' sinks in the front, doesn't it?

587
00:14:55,380 --> 00:14:58,320
I mean, I think that exists, but it's like an oar.

588
00:14:58,800 --> 00:14:59,880
Front wheel drive.

589
00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:01,540
Front wheel drive, right.

590
00:15:01,700 --> 00:15:02,680
Why can't we do front wheel drive?

591
00:15:02,780 --> 00:15:03,260
Why is everything

592
00:15:03,260 --> 00:15:03,540
back wheel drive?

593
00:15:03,540 --> 00:15:04,700
Because it's easier

594
00:15:04,700 --> 00:15:05,420
to have--

595
00:15:05,570 --> 00:15:06,700
You ever tried to push a shopping

596
00:15:06,700 --> 00:15:07,240
cart backwards?

597
00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:07,900
Yeah.

598
00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:08,600
It's very difficult.

599
00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:10,440
Yeah, you want to-- oh, yeah, because it's getting

600
00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:11,560
steered from the back, huh?

601
00:15:12,340 --> 00:15:16,940
What is the problem that you're trying to solve by moving the location of the engine?

602
00:15:17,180 --> 00:15:18,780
A motor that pulls,

603
00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:19,720
okay?

604
00:15:20,940 --> 00:15:25,780
At the end of the day, I just want everybody to have a boat that's cost

605
00:15:25,780 --> 00:15:26,300
-effective,

606
00:15:26,780 --> 00:15:26,880
get

607
00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:29,120
more millennials on the water, right?

608
00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:33,040
More cheap skates like myself and not use dinghies.

609
00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:34,020
Those things are

610
00:15:34,020 --> 00:15:34,540
ugly

611
00:15:34,540 --> 00:15:36,400
and I can't believe they can

612
00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:37,100
be in the

613
00:15:37,100 --> 00:15:40,040
water, let alone make.

614
00:15:40,700 --> 00:15:42,160
And I think, yeah, I love this

615
00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:43,560
recycle version.

616
00:15:43,820 --> 00:15:44,940
I think that's the way to go.

617
00:15:44,940 --> 00:15:49,800
A roof over every head, a chicken in every pot, a jet ski pulled inflatable party

618
00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:50,720
pontoon

619
00:15:50,980 --> 00:15:52,040
in every garage.

620
00:15:57,990 --> 00:16:01,200
All right, David, let's hear what you got for us this week.

621
00:16:01,500 --> 00:16:09,640
So my idea is basically a neighborhood-centric, hyper-local potluck app.

622
00:16:10,580 --> 00:16:15,840
So like, the biggest problem is vetting, right?

623
00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,200
It's user vetting, because obviously,

624
00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:20,280
if you're going to welcome potentially a stranger

625
00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,760
into your house, like, problem.

626
00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,640
But I feel like there are a number of ways

627
00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:28,680
you could probably do it in a fairly simple way

628
00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:33,100
to confirm that a person actually lives where

629
00:16:33,180 --> 00:16:35,260
they say they live, like you're actually there.

630
00:16:35,700 --> 00:16:39,580
The search radius would be like something really short, right?

631
00:16:39,820 --> 00:16:42,040
'cause ideally it's like something you can even walk to

632
00:16:42,540 --> 00:16:43,440
rather than have to drive.

633
00:16:43,500 --> 00:16:44,980
'Cause then it's like, you know,

634
00:16:45,060 --> 00:16:46,960
if you can just like walk to a neighbor's house

635
00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:51,340
and like they say, I am making fucking chili,

636
00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:54,680
bring toppings or bring, you know,

637
00:16:54,820 --> 00:16:55,840
something to go with chili,

638
00:16:55,980 --> 00:16:56,320
you know?

639
00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:58,760
But like, I was just kinda,

640
00:16:59,460 --> 00:17:02,920
I'm getting involved with some sort of like

641
00:17:03,340 --> 00:17:05,720
direct community action out here in Grand Rapids

642
00:17:06,900 --> 00:17:09,800
with just sort of like providing hospitality

643
00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,459
trying to feed people who are maybe experiencing instability.

644
00:17:13,580 --> 00:17:17,439
And I don't know, I have a lot of neighbors and like every time I've gotten a chance to

645
00:17:17,459 --> 00:17:20,680
like talk with them for the most part, they're cool.

646
00:17:20,860 --> 00:17:21,819
They're like chill people.

647
00:17:22,079 --> 00:17:26,300
Sometimes you know, you have crazy people, but around me, it's it's mostly cool.

648
00:17:26,699 --> 00:17:33,760
And I don't know, I feel like we are incredibly isolated usually, you know, and like, I feel

649
00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:41,900
like just sort of nothing makes you more like, okay, I feel I feel at peace. I feel like

650
00:17:42,120 --> 00:17:47,100
connected to my city and my community more than like, you know, just cooking food for

651
00:17:47,180 --> 00:17:50,820
people and sharing food, you know, I don't know, at least for me. That's like, I love

652
00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:58,300
doing that stuff. So I was just sort of thinking I pot dot luck was one of the initial names

653
00:17:58,300 --> 00:18:00,020
and I don't know if that carries water,

654
00:18:00,260 --> 00:18:01,200
but like...

655
00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:02,860
It's either a casino, a

656
00:18:02,860 --> 00:18:05,480
leprechaun, or potluck.

657
00:18:07,300 --> 00:18:11,400
I was kind of thinking about like, with user vetting, I think like,

658
00:18:11,900 --> 00:18:16,280
it's probably a higher barrier of entry to host than to attend, right?

659
00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,080
Because like, you want to make sure if someone is saying,

660
00:18:19,220 --> 00:18:25,340
"I'm going to host a potluck," they're not like, doing any weird shit, you know?

661
00:18:25,340 --> 00:18:31,900
I would hope that like if I feel like going the Craigslist route of like it's not ad supported

662
00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,480
It's not try it's really not even trying to make money

663
00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:36,520
It's just kind of trying to like exist

664
00:18:36,710 --> 00:18:44,040
You know as a resource like that helps because then you don't really worry about like growth or any bullshit like

665
00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:44,260
that

666
00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:44,780
It's more just

667
00:18:44,780 --> 00:18:45,740
like a useful tool

668
00:18:47,140 --> 00:18:52,820
Bear bear probably pretty bare-bones interface and then I like something along the lines of like you say, okay

669
00:18:52,660 --> 00:18:58,420
I'm making food and I have room for two extra plates at the table basically.

670
00:18:58,890 --> 00:19:03,960
And so only two people get to sign up and once it's full, it's full and like you can't

671
00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,600
even see it to avoid extra people showing up.

672
00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:15,020
And like I think you'd probably also have to go by like basement show rules where the

673
00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,560
your address is not posted anywhere

674
00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:18,600
and you basically

675
00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:20,300
get notified of the people who are

676
00:19:20,020 --> 00:19:23,020
going to attend and you tell them your address.

677
00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:28,120
Because otherwise, you just don't want cops showing up.

678
00:19:29,140 --> 00:19:29,880
It's got to be

679
00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:30,540
cool.

680
00:19:31,060 --> 00:19:32,200
It's a brownie party, boys.

681
00:19:32,220 --> 00:19:32,540
It's got to

682
00:19:32,540 --> 00:19:33,900
be on the DL.

683
00:19:33,940 --> 00:19:34,200
Post

684
00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:35,200
free food here.

685
00:19:36,660 --> 00:19:37,640
I don't know.

686
00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:39,820
I feel like I don't want to do this shit on Facebook.

687
00:19:39,910 --> 00:19:41,220
I don't want to do this shit on Instagram.

688
00:19:41,580 --> 00:19:46,380
I don't want to do this shit on anything like that, because all that stuff is too public.

689
00:19:48,740 --> 00:19:49,160
I feel like it

690
00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:49,720
would be impossible

691
00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,480
to totally avoid bad actors, probably.

692
00:19:52,980 --> 00:19:55,220
- Chat roulette or Omegle for food.

693
00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:58,620
- Chat roulette with my neighbors, which

694
00:19:58,620 --> 00:19:59,000
is--

695
00:19:59,020 --> 00:19:59,120
- I

696
00:19:59,120 --> 00:20:01,100
don't know, yeah, I feel like it'd be fun.

697
00:20:01,140 --> 00:20:01,400
- That's

698
00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:01,900
kinda cool. - I feel like it

699
00:20:01,900 --> 00:20:02,440
would be fun.

700
00:20:03,700 --> 00:20:05,760
But it's not bulletproof, for

701
00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:05,920
sure.

702
00:20:05,940 --> 00:20:07,580
- With an Uber-like rating system

703
00:20:07,780 --> 00:20:09,520
so you can avoid the one-star weirdo

704
00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:11,120
who made arsenic pie or whatever.

705
00:20:11,660 --> 00:20:15,480
- Yeah, I think it's one of those things

706
00:20:15,540 --> 00:20:17,080
where it's like you'd either have to,

707
00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,240
it's a one strike and you're out type thing,

708
00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:20,860
you know?

709
00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:24,100
Like I feel like there would have to be like actual,

710
00:20:24,340 --> 00:20:26,680
like you just don't get to do this anymore,

711
00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:27,940
you know, type things.

712
00:20:28,580 --> 00:20:29,740
But then you

713
00:20:29,740 --> 00:20:30,800
can't really like run

714
00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:31,340
background

715
00:20:31,340 --> 00:20:31,640
checks

716
00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:33,000
on every person who uses it.

717
00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:33,180
But

718
00:20:33,180 --> 00:20:33,400
like,

719
00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:34,720
I feel like some sort of like

720
00:20:34,940 --> 00:20:36,720
local identity verification.

721
00:20:36,860 --> 00:20:38,840
- I don't want any of the safety features, man.

722
00:20:38,860 --> 00:20:39,880
I just wanna go in

723
00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:41,560
and I just wanna see what the hell happens.

724
00:20:41,580 --> 00:20:42,140
- I mean--

725
00:20:42,180 --> 00:20:43,340
- Let's play with that roulette.

726
00:20:43,540 --> 00:20:44,520
That's why it's called roulette.

727
00:20:45,060 --> 00:20:45,400
- So yeah,

728
00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:46,980
like there's the safety version, right?

729
00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,320
I'm almost thinking that would be fun, Scott.

730
00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:50,560
Seriously,

731
00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:50,880
though.

732
00:20:50,940 --> 00:20:51,560
Pop that career.

733
00:20:51,580 --> 00:20:52,200
College kids.

734
00:20:52,310 --> 00:20:52,400
The

735
00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:53,780
only reason I see my neighbors--

736
00:20:53,860 --> 00:20:54,940
this is the street I live on.

737
00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:56,400
The only reason I see my neighbors

738
00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:58,680
is when all the cops come outside one

739
00:20:58,680 --> 00:20:58,820
house.

740
00:20:58,820 --> 00:20:58,940
Right.

741
00:20:59,220 --> 00:21:00,320
And then all the neighbors come out,

742
00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:01,260
and they all just kind of gawk, and we

743
00:21:01,290 --> 00:21:02,420
call that neighborhood get-togethers.

744
00:21:02,540 --> 00:21:02,960
You see your

745
00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:03,920
neighbors, you give them the nod,

746
00:21:04,290 --> 00:21:05,280
they give you the nod, and they're like, OK,

747
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:05,880
what's going

748
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:06,000
on?

749
00:21:06,020 --> 00:21:06,220
Right.

750
00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,420
It would be very interesting to do a roulette game of dinner

751
00:21:09,500 --> 00:21:10,220
parties with them.

752
00:21:10,420 --> 00:21:10,980
I'd be into

753
00:21:10,980 --> 00:21:11,220
it.

754
00:21:11,260 --> 00:21:13,720
I mean, it might be a disaster, you know?

755
00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,660
Or it might be like you find common ground,

756
00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:18,080
and you share a nice meal,

757
00:21:18,340 --> 00:21:20,880
and at least then you feel more welcome

758
00:21:21,420 --> 00:21:23,080
in the place where you live, you know?

759
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:24,520
- I think that's it.

760
00:21:24,980 --> 00:21:27,560
I would love a round robin kind of idea,

761
00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:28,140
right?

762
00:21:28,340 --> 00:21:31,620
So let's say you get 10 neighbors in the community

763
00:21:31,820 --> 00:21:34,340
to commit to, hey, every week

764
00:21:34,340 --> 00:21:35,520
we're gonna round

765
00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:36,100
robin.

766
00:21:37,039 --> 00:21:39,200
Potluck, we come to your house, you come to my

767
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:39,680
house.

768
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:41,780
We get to know each other, right?

769
00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:45,160
It's kind of like the post-block party

770
00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:46,780
hangover

771
00:21:46,780 --> 00:21:47,040
to meet

772
00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:47,860
your neighbors, right?

773
00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,560
And if you could have like--

774
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:54,240
yeah, it's just that would be really, I think, cool, casual.

775
00:21:54,580 --> 00:21:56,660
You don't have to worry about too many safety features.

776
00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:57,580
It's not open

777
00:21:57,580 --> 00:21:58,420
to the

778
00:21:58,420 --> 00:21:59,120
public as

779
00:21:59,120 --> 00:21:59,560
much.

780
00:21:59,780 --> 00:22:03,980
It's more like, hey, this block, 22nd Street on Next Door

781
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:05,600
wants to do a round robin.

782
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:06,720
You want to jump

783
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:07,000
in?

784
00:22:07,460 --> 00:22:08,160
Yeah, I like that.

785
00:22:08,360 --> 00:22:09,900
Yeah, you can vet it, right?

786
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:10,760
So maybe

787
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:11,240
in a way--

788
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:12,700
And Next Door already has the vetting

789
00:22:12,860 --> 00:22:14,940
of where you have to verify your address and stuff.

790
00:22:15,020 --> 00:22:17,160
this almost seems like a feature of that platform

791
00:22:17,180 --> 00:22:17,980
or something, yeah.

792
00:22:18,060 --> 00:22:19,860
- Yeah, I could totally see it being

793
00:22:19,860 --> 00:22:20,480
as like

794
00:22:20,660 --> 00:22:22,120
sort of a spin off of that.

795
00:22:22,360 --> 00:22:23,600
And like again, you know, it's like,

796
00:22:24,120 --> 00:22:28,420
I think there's a part of me that's like very weird

797
00:22:28,540 --> 00:22:30,520
about like data collection and stuff like that,

798
00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:31,060
you know what I mean?

799
00:22:31,540 --> 00:22:32,900
'Cause I mean,

800
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:33,600
but it's

801
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,060
also a bit of like,

802
00:22:35,360 --> 00:22:38,240
well, it's all, that ship's sailed, you know?

803
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:38,940
It's

804
00:22:38,940 --> 00:22:39,920
already like,

805
00:22:40,700 --> 00:22:40,840
I don't know.

806
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:41,540
- They already know.

807
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:42,220
- Yeah. - Right.

808
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:46,760
- And I think the coordination of like 10 different families

809
00:22:46,940 --> 00:22:50,400
and trying to round robin between 10 different dinners

810
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:51,540
across 10 different weeks,

811
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:53,100
managing vacations

812
00:22:53,100 --> 00:22:53,860
and time off,

813
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,300
this app would solve all of that headache

814
00:22:57,780 --> 00:22:59,300
and now it would just be,

815
00:22:59,750 --> 00:23:01,920
all right, we're meeting the neighbor across the street

816
00:23:01,980 --> 00:23:03,580
that we've, I mean like in a way,

817
00:23:03,660 --> 00:23:06,180
I've lived in this house for four, five, nine

818
00:23:06,180 --> 00:23:06,480
years?

819
00:23:06,780 --> 00:23:07,140
Shoot.

820
00:23:07,900 --> 00:23:11,300
And I barely know a lot of my neighbors.

821
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,380
I know of them, but I, you know.

822
00:23:14,540 --> 00:23:14,740
- Yeah.

823
00:23:15,100 --> 00:23:16,660
- Not gonna knock on their door for a cup of sugar.

824
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:16,980
- Right.

825
00:23:17,120 --> 00:23:17,300
- Right?

826
00:23:17,660 --> 00:23:19,520
- The people-- - That's too sketch.

827
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:21,500
- Like the people behind us,

828
00:23:22,100 --> 00:23:24,220
they threw some dope ass parties.

829
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:25,160
They were very cool.

830
00:23:25,190 --> 00:23:26,680
They were super duper welcoming,

831
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:28,520
like aggressively welcoming, you know?

832
00:23:28,940 --> 00:23:30,740
And the people who moved, they moved out,

833
00:23:30,820 --> 00:23:32,740
and the people who moved in were perfectly nice,

834
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,740
but you know, had four children, no time, you know?

835
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,220
And they're moving, and it's like,

836
00:23:38,300 --> 00:23:40,440
well, maybe the next neighbors will be cool,

837
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,040
Or maybe I just need to be the cool neighbor.

838
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:43,840
That might

839
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:44,420
be what

840
00:23:44,420 --> 00:23:45,160
I need to do.

841
00:23:45,380 --> 00:23:46,220
- It's gotta start somewhere.

842
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:46,680
- Right.

843
00:23:46,870 --> 00:23:48,360
- What a cool way to introduce somebody

844
00:23:48,380 --> 00:23:49,140
to the neighborhood too.

845
00:23:49,340 --> 00:23:50,880
Like, hey, join the Ron Robbin app.

846
00:23:50,980 --> 00:23:51,200
We have

847
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:52,940
10 neighbors that would love to

848
00:23:52,940 --> 00:23:54,120
just get to know you,

849
00:23:54,300 --> 00:23:55,480
have you over for dinner

850
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:56,280
while you

851
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:57,420
do your move-ins

852
00:23:57,500 --> 00:23:58,440
and whatever, right?

853
00:23:58,680 --> 00:23:59,020
- Absolutely.

854
00:23:59,260 --> 00:24:01,740
- Way better than a drop off of cookies or jello, right?

855
00:24:01,820 --> 00:24:01,940
Hey,

856
00:24:02,120 --> 00:24:02,360
nice,

857
00:24:02,500 --> 00:24:03,340
welcome you to the neighborhood,

858
00:24:03,700 --> 00:24:03,800
bye.

859
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:05,580
Like, we'll see you later.

860
00:24:06,260 --> 00:24:06,400
- Right.

861
00:24:07,020 --> 00:24:07,240
I mean,

862
00:24:07,980 --> 00:24:09,680
it's funny 'cause it's like,

863
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,660
In some ways, I think the internet has usurped that

864
00:24:13,820 --> 00:24:16,280
in a really huge way.

865
00:24:16,780 --> 00:24:19,480
And it's nice to be able to pick your friends,

866
00:24:20,460 --> 00:24:24,580
because I'm sure you end up with some awkward conversations

867
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:25,160
with your people.

868
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:26,620
But then it's also like, I don't know,

869
00:24:26,820 --> 00:24:29,160
it would be kind of nice to know the people around you

870
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,820
well enough where it's like, oh shit, I need a tool.

871
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,900
I can just go ask my neighbor if they have a tool and borrow it

872
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:35,420
and--

873
00:24:35,500 --> 00:24:38,440
rather than having to pay in Home Depot or something

874
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:38,780
to get,

875
00:24:39,590 --> 00:24:42,460
like, to rent a tool if your neighbor literally has it,

876
00:24:42,540 --> 00:24:42,840
you know?

877
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:43,980
Episode 21.

878
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:44,940
So true.

879
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:46,700
I think, like, yeah, you're going

880
00:24:46,700 --> 00:24:48,060
to vibe with certain neighbors

881
00:24:48,060 --> 00:24:49,020
around Robin

882
00:24:49,190 --> 00:24:51,940
better than you would, you know, eight of the 10.

883
00:24:52,860 --> 00:24:54,200
I think it could be fun.

884
00:24:55,700 --> 00:24:58,800
But yeah, the Pot Dot Luck, or--

885
00:24:58,800 --> 00:24:59,560
Pot Dot Luck.

886
00:24:59,860 --> 00:25:00,300
I don't know.

887
00:25:00,300 --> 00:25:03,420
I feel like there would be other pun names that

888
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:04,020
would work better.

889
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:05,140
Dot Luck.

890
00:25:06,100 --> 00:25:06,540
I don't know.

891
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,120
I'm hosting a Dot Luck next week.

892
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,000
- Yeah, oh, just dot look I think is good, yeah.

893
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:12,280
- Man, you could do this for,

894
00:25:12,500 --> 00:25:14,900
you know, I organized a block party a long time ago

895
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:15,440
and

896
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:15,740
it was

897
00:25:15,740 --> 00:25:16,100
hard.

898
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,100
It's just like, well, it could be,

899
00:25:19,180 --> 00:25:20,420
it's just that you don't know

900
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,040
and like there's weather delays

901
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:23,840
and you just wish you could communicate with everybody

902
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:26,500
about the events or

903
00:25:26,500 --> 00:25:26,760
whatever.

904
00:25:28,380 --> 00:25:30,700
- I mean, Facebook neighborhood

905
00:25:30,700 --> 00:25:31,160
groups

906
00:25:31,220 --> 00:25:33,660
are pretty good for that.

907
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,060
You know, we have an okay one, but I don't know.

908
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:43,560
It's also hard because it's like, you kind of just have to be welcoming and make a point

909
00:25:43,620 --> 00:25:46,140
of it, even if it's kind of weird or awkward, you know?

910
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:47,500
It just kind of has

911
00:25:47,500 --> 00:25:48,440
to...

912
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:48,580
Yeah.

913
00:25:48,980 --> 00:25:49,540
I think this

914
00:25:49,540 --> 00:25:53,400
summer I would like to just kind of throw some backyard parties.

915
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,560
Just kind of just a post, "Hey, we're chilling.

916
00:25:57,620 --> 00:25:57,780
Come

917
00:25:57,780 --> 00:25:58,340
grill."

918
00:25:58,340 --> 00:25:58,800
Because

919
00:25:58,800 --> 00:25:59,520
I

920
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:00,220
like doing that.

921
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:05,400
Scott.

922
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:05,600
Scott,

923
00:26:06,140 --> 00:26:09,260
what do you have for us?

924
00:26:09,740 --> 00:26:10,380
- Thank you, David.

925
00:26:10,740 --> 00:26:12,860
Okay, I got something a little different this week.

926
00:26:13,300 --> 00:26:15,560
I do not actually have an idea.

927
00:26:16,100 --> 00:26:18,000
However, I have a market.

928
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,080
I have hundreds of thousands of contact names

929
00:26:21,140 --> 00:26:23,920
in that market, which as Russell, you and I know,

930
00:26:24,020 --> 00:26:25,520
is probably one of the most important parts

931
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,060
of trying to get a product out in the world.

932
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,120
It's not even a niche market, it's big.

933
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:34,180
And I have no idea what to sell, either product or service.

934
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,820
and I want to Spitball what we should do with that.

935
00:26:37,360 --> 00:26:40,620
So I was literally, I saw a movie last night.

936
00:26:40,670 --> 00:26:42,660
I saw Mickey 17, it's good.

937
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,440
But the credits came up and they just kept going

938
00:26:45,540 --> 00:26:46,280
and going and going.

939
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,400
And I realized every one of these is a name of someone

940
00:26:49,820 --> 00:26:52,420
in the movie industry, not even just the actors,

941
00:26:52,660 --> 00:26:56,160
but the producers, all the people on the light sets

942
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:56,980
and costume and everything.

943
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,760
All these people are in the niche market

944
00:27:00,140 --> 00:27:01,140
of the movie industry.

945
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,580
You could easily find them on LinkedIn or IMDB or some form.

946
00:27:05,620 --> 00:27:08,980
There's thousands upon thousands of movies out there that you could go and

947
00:27:09,340 --> 00:27:12,960
capture all these names and put them on a list and just mass spam them

948
00:27:13,060 --> 00:27:14,880
with some product or service.

949
00:27:15,260 --> 00:27:18,540
What do you sell a bunch of people that have been in movies in the background?

950
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,020
Oh, cool.

951
00:27:20,060 --> 00:27:20,420
First thing

952
00:27:20,420 --> 00:27:24,140
that came to mind was just like some kind of trophy that

953
00:27:24,860 --> 00:27:26,860
memorializes their role in that film.

954
00:27:26,980 --> 00:27:30,220
So you take all the people from Mickey 17, you'd be like, "I'm going to give

955
00:27:30,220 --> 00:27:36,280
you this special collectible coin or like a lasered out on acrylic frame that

956
00:27:36,380 --> 00:27:40,060
shows their credit page with their name on it highlighted or something and then

957
00:27:40,120 --> 00:27:43,980
you just you know hundreds of letters or emails or whatever way and just make

958
00:27:43,980 --> 00:27:47,420
them to order as they come in that's that is all I've got so far I've been

959
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,080
thinking about this about seven minutes what

960
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:53,240
if you either scraped IMDB or tore

961
00:27:53,860 --> 00:27:56,500
optical character recognition and AI loose on those

962
00:27:56,500 --> 00:27:57,260
credits itself

963
00:27:57,260 --> 00:27:57,500
and

964
00:27:57,460 --> 00:28:01,840
assembled the database and sold that as the contact sharing directory to the

965
00:28:01,980 --> 00:28:05,800
other people who might want to know, network in Hollywood. Oh, you want to

966
00:28:05,820 --> 00:28:10,080
know who some of the best sound designers are

967
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:10,660
on set?

968
00:28:10,660 --> 00:28:12,420
This guy's been in 37 movies.

969
00:28:13,010 --> 00:28:14,520
Oh, that is clever.

970
00:28:14,790 --> 00:28:14,960
I

971
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:20,560
think that IMDB kind of does that, but do they do that with like second grips and

972
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:24,500
stuff like that? Like background whatevers? I bet that there's value in

973
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,740
and having a comprehensive list of everyone

974
00:28:26,860 --> 00:28:27,520
who's been in there.

975
00:28:27,780 --> 00:28:29,700
And there are special rules in those credits, Scott,

976
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:30,600
for what they mean.

977
00:28:30,660 --> 00:28:33,040
Like if you have people who wrote the movie

978
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,360
and it's A-N-D, two people,

979
00:28:35,780 --> 00:28:37,300
that's different than ampersand

980
00:28:37,300 --> 00:28:37,760
people,

981
00:28:38,220 --> 00:28:38,500
whether they

982
00:28:38,500 --> 00:28:39,660
collaborated on it together

983
00:28:39,860 --> 00:28:40,860
or one of them wrote it and the

984
00:28:40,860 --> 00:28:41,720
other one rewrote it.

985
00:28:42,020 --> 00:28:44,440
There's like a structure to credits and what they mean.

986
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,420
It's almost its own little like database

987
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:47,580
that you could scrape.

988
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,700
You could get trends on what songs have been most popular

989
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,400
across the decades.

990
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:54,400
You could get all kinds of stuff.

991
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:54,480
The

992
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,080
thing, this is like very easy to do.

993
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,780
It would not be hard to create a tool that could do that

994
00:28:59,780 --> 00:29:00,620
scraping for it.

995
00:29:00,620 --> 00:29:01,860
You just have to pirate every movie.

996
00:29:02,140 --> 00:29:06,960
Yeah, and like you said, this, like every Sundance Film Festival producer would

997
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:07,380
be like,

998
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:12,020
oh my gosh, we can get expert, like D-list talent, right?

999
00:29:12,100 --> 00:29:13,260
That's seen the real good

1000
00:29:13,260 --> 00:29:13,840
stuff.

1001
00:29:14,220 --> 00:29:18,520
And you hire them to do the Sundance film that's going to make it to their, you know,

1002
00:29:18,660 --> 00:29:23,060
instead of the fourth grip, they're the first grip now because they did a Sundance, whatever

1003
00:29:23,060 --> 00:29:29,240
one night interesting I love that idea though selling the plaque I am always

1004
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:29,680
curious

1005
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:30,480
like in

1006
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,880
the back of the film they want recognition to write totally

1007
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:38,400
and then you Facebook target add them were you the assistant dolly on

1008
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,380
super-targeted assistant

1009
00:29:42,380 --> 00:29:49,000
dolly who was born on the 4th of July and I love too

1010
00:29:48,980 --> 00:29:54,220
hard and yes my director bought me this plaque sell him a t-shirt with exactly

1011
00:29:54,380 --> 00:29:55,080
that I love it

1012
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:59,900
that'd be funny you just have the whole credits and then their

1013
00:29:59,980 --> 00:30:00,680
name highlighted

1014
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:07,140
oh I wonder if there's something to that no hold on what if

1015
00:30:07,180 --> 00:30:08,220
there you sold them

1016
00:30:08,220 --> 00:30:09,420
a movie what's

1017
00:30:09,420 --> 00:30:10,860
a physical representation of the whole

1018
00:30:10,940 --> 00:30:16,039
credits a flipbook what if you sold them a flipbook and when you flip through it

1019
00:30:15,940 --> 00:30:18,040
all it is is just the credits frame by frame,

1020
00:30:18,140 --> 00:30:19,200
but then their name is circled.

1021
00:30:19,340 --> 00:30:20,180
You add in the circle.

1022
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,020
And you can be like, hey,

1023
00:30:22,220 --> 00:30:22,560
here's

1024
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:23,660
a memento of the thing

1025
00:30:23,700 --> 00:30:24,020
that you did.

1026
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:24,660
A scroll.

1027
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,220
A scroll that like-- a

1028
00:30:26,220 --> 00:30:26,600
long

1029
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:27,180
scroll.

1030
00:30:27,300 --> 00:30:28,860
Yeah, Star Wars style.

1031
00:30:29,020 --> 00:30:30,120
And you can do it on physical paper.

1032
00:30:30,140 --> 00:30:31,400
A lot of credits are artsy.

1033
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:31,600
Oh,

1034
00:30:31,700 --> 00:30:31,780
yeah.

1035
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:32,140
Yeah.

1036
00:30:32,380 --> 00:30:33,200
That's meant to be fun.

1037
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,500
And then you can see like, oh, yeah, I was the--

1038
00:30:35,700 --> 00:30:36,640
I remember that.

1039
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:38,640
--microphone holder for the whatever.

1040
00:30:38,900 --> 00:30:39,120
Yeah.

1041
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:39,300
That

1042
00:30:39,300 --> 00:30:41,140
would be really scalable too, right?

1043
00:30:41,260 --> 00:30:43,660
Because you just get like-- you print the same credits

1044
00:30:43,860 --> 00:30:44,520
over and over again.

1045
00:30:44,580 --> 00:30:46,240
And you could just, for every order,

1046
00:30:46,340 --> 00:30:48,580
you just manually put a sticker over the name.

1047
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:49,240
Right.

1048
00:30:50,380 --> 00:30:51,860
And now you're just like--

1049
00:30:51,860 --> 00:30:51,960
Got

1050
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:53,480
to hope a lot of orders are coming in, though.

1051
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:54,180
Yeah, and

1052
00:30:54,180 --> 00:30:56,880
then if you could frame the scroll in a way

1053
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,180
where it's preset to their thing, but at any point in time

1054
00:31:00,180 --> 00:31:01,520
they can press a button, right?

1055
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,520
And it can scroll through all the credits,

1056
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:05,400
or

1057
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:06,720
literally the old Roman

1058
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:07,700
scrolls.

1059
00:31:09,020 --> 00:31:09,420
That

1060
00:31:09,420 --> 00:31:10,160
would be interesting.

1061
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,900
For a couple past projects that we did,

1062
00:31:14,500 --> 00:31:20,340
These were like very in-depth, very awful engineering projects that took months or years.

1063
00:31:20,620 --> 00:31:29,940
And at the end of them, we would order like a little hexagonal PCB with like the project etched in the front and like the date or something on the back.

1064
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,840
And we'd have them as like tokens, like, "Hey, oh, you survived that project? That's awesome."

1065
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:35,420
And keep them as collectibles on your desk.

1066
00:31:35,780 --> 00:31:36,280
Just do that.

1067
00:31:36,340 --> 00:31:41,740
Have the movie, make a bunch of these tokens, have the movie on one side, print them one for every person in the credits.

1068
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:42,420
and then

1069
00:31:42,420 --> 00:31:43,960
serialize or whatever,

1070
00:31:44,020 --> 00:31:46,400
put their name on the back if they order these.

1071
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,100
And then be, you gotta collect all the movies

1072
00:31:48,260 --> 00:31:48,880
you've been in, you know?

1073
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:49,260
Or you can

1074
00:31:49,260 --> 00:31:49,860
show 'em off to your friends.

1075
00:31:49,860 --> 00:31:51,480
- That's not a bad idea. - Something up on your wall.

1076
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,960
- What about like one of those,

1077
00:31:54,540 --> 00:31:56,100
one of those like picture frame,

1078
00:31:56,420 --> 00:31:58,040
like digital picture frame things?

1079
00:31:58,820 --> 00:32:01,600
Where, I don't know exactly how you do this,

1080
00:32:01,700 --> 00:32:05,440
but like you take like a little snippet screenshot

1081
00:32:05,820 --> 00:32:08,880
of every credit, like from the credits of every movie

1082
00:32:08,900 --> 00:32:10,180
they've been in where their name

1083
00:32:10,180 --> 00:32:10,480
appears.

1084
00:32:10,500 --> 00:32:10,900
- There it is,

1085
00:32:10,980 --> 00:32:11,060
yep.

1086
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:15,420
just scrolling with all of the different names and all the different fonts.

1087
00:32:16,020 --> 00:32:16,440
I don't know.

1088
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:17,540
That'd be cool.

1089
00:32:17,780 --> 00:32:17,900
Yeah.

1090
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:19,660
Consolidation of all their work.

1091
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:19,940
Right.

1092
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:20,640
Right.

1093
00:32:20,860 --> 00:32:22,040
Into just this long.

1094
00:32:22,140 --> 00:32:22,500
I don't know.

1095
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:23,300
I like

1096
00:32:23,300 --> 00:32:23,700
that.

1097
00:32:23,780 --> 00:32:23,980
I,

1098
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:25,820
all of these could work, honestly.

1099
00:32:26,740 --> 00:32:27,920
I don't think there's a right answer.

1100
00:32:28,300 --> 00:32:29,620
People love merch, right?

1101
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:29,960
People

1102
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:30,620
love merch about

1103
00:32:30,620 --> 00:32:31,160
themselves.

1104
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:31,640
Yeah.

1105
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:32,140
Oh yeah.

1106
00:32:32,580 --> 00:32:34,240
Oh, you target their friends and family.

1107
00:32:34,740 --> 00:32:36,280
Whether it's something that you don't.

1108
00:32:36,660 --> 00:32:37,620
Like this would be a great gift.

1109
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:38,020
I mean,

1110
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,320
so like if there was a tool, like a

1111
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:41,460
website to

1112
00:32:41,460 --> 00:32:45,040
So here's Doyle Lewis, here's all the films he's been in.

1113
00:32:45,140 --> 00:32:48,640
If you want to create memorabilia or buy it for him--

1114
00:32:48,700 --> 00:32:49,240
Absolutely.

1115
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:49,920
Yeah.

1116
00:32:50,300 --> 00:32:53,200
People are proud of their kids or whatever, right?

1117
00:32:53,860 --> 00:32:54,260
Definitely.

1118
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:55,900
That might actually be cool, too.

1119
00:32:55,940 --> 00:32:57,560
You were joking, David.

1120
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:58,980
And my director bought me this shirt.

1121
00:32:59,140 --> 00:33:00,920
But if you have the

1122
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:02,160
production company or whatever

1123
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,100
able to place a bulk order for everyone

1124
00:33:04,220 --> 00:33:05,880
as their thank you for working on this gift,

1125
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,120
it seems like an easy way to get a couple hundred orders.

1126
00:33:08,180 --> 00:33:11,440
I mean, there's-- listen, I feel like the floor

1127
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:17,900
pretty low. There's some real dog shit rap gifts out there, you know, and just just some like, you know,

1128
00:33:18,330 --> 00:33:23,900
the Bourne identity not even in the movie font, you know, just in like Ariel, you know, like on a t-shirt.

1129
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:25,220
On a mug. Right, exactly.

1130
00:33:25,740 --> 00:33:25,860
Yeah.

1131
00:33:26,580 --> 00:33:29,940
It's I feel like that wouldn't even be very expensive, like none of this shit would

1132
00:33:29,940 --> 00:33:30,920
be expensive, you know.

1133
00:33:31,100 --> 00:33:32,620
I like my favorites the scroll idea.

1134
00:33:32,790 --> 00:33:33,300
I like that a

1135
00:33:33,300 --> 00:33:37,900
lot. The credits but in flat form like an old ancient scroll.

1136
00:33:37,980 --> 00:33:43,060
That's cool. Yes, that would be fun. Yeah, like get the the weathered paper so you could just be like

1137
00:33:44,060 --> 00:33:44,380
You know

1138
00:33:46,100 --> 00:33:50,320
Maybe you can have the poster on one side and this and the credits on the other right?

1139
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:51,240
Oh, that'd be cool

1140
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:52,140
How legal we

1141
00:33:52,140 --> 00:33:55,320
could or how far you get without getting sued for trademarking?

1142
00:33:55,660 --> 00:33:58,300
Let's push a lot of like a lot of triple

1143
00:33:58,300 --> 00:34:00,300
-a movies make like a thing

1144
00:34:00,300 --> 00:34:01,340
of their credits, too

1145
00:34:01,380 --> 00:34:05,280
They're like they've got the art your characters like dancing around the credits and stuff, right?

1146
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,440
So this might border on infringement.

1147
00:34:08,720 --> 00:34:09,040
I don't know.

1148
00:34:10,290 --> 00:34:12,120
- It doesn't have to be the produced credits, right?

1149
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:13,480
It could just be our own version

1150
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:13,720
of

1151
00:34:13,720 --> 00:34:15,120
parody credits.

1152
00:34:15,700 --> 00:34:16,460
We put a...

1153
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:16,679
- Right.

1154
00:34:17,460 --> 00:34:18,240
- Parody credits.

1155
00:34:18,639 --> 00:34:19,659
- How does parody law work?

1156
00:34:19,909 --> 00:34:20,820
We gotta talk about that.

1157
00:34:20,860 --> 00:34:21,020
I'm one

1158
00:34:21,020 --> 00:34:21,820
of these spit-falsies.

1159
00:34:21,820 --> 00:34:24,200
- I feel like you could play pretty fast and loose with it.

1160
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:26,560
Listen, I don't know, man.

1161
00:34:26,629 --> 00:34:30,300
Is anybody gonna be checking on this shit in like a year

1162
00:34:31,220 --> 00:34:32,720
once the United States

1163
00:34:32,720 --> 00:34:33,600
like is no

1164
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:34,720
longer a thing, you know?

1165
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,980
When the US Patent and Copyright Office is shut down.

1166
00:34:38,270 --> 00:34:38,460
Right,

1167
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:39,120
exactly.

1168
00:34:39,620 --> 00:34:41,260
Maybe that won't happen because that's

1169
00:34:41,260 --> 00:34:41,840
like--

1170
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:42,700
Corporate interests.

1171
00:34:43,090 --> 00:34:43,240
Exactly,

1172
00:34:43,500 --> 00:34:43,659
yeah.

1173
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,260
The oligarchs, Disney, whatever.

1174
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,220
The very last thing to go.

1175
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:49,800
Who owns the patent office now?

1176
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:51,080
Is it Elon, or is it--

1177
00:34:51,899 --> 00:34:52,280
Disney.

1178
00:34:52,460 --> 00:34:53,659
Bezos is his point.

1179
00:34:53,780 --> 00:34:55,360
Disney, Disney, that's it.

1180
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,340
All right, Leo, what have you brought this week?

1181
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,920
All right, y'all been to Sam's Club in the last two years?

1182
00:35:05,340 --> 00:35:05,680
Costco?

1183
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:06,380
I'm not familiar.

1184
00:35:06,799 --> 00:35:07,160
Costco's

1185
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:08,560
the better Sam's Club, and we all know it.

1186
00:35:08,660 --> 00:35:10,980
But if you end up slumming it in a Sam's Club,

1187
00:35:12,460 --> 00:35:13,060
they have

1188
00:35:13,060 --> 00:35:17,120
taken the high school janitor's floor cleaner

1189
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,620
that you ride on, and they've made it self-driving.

1190
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:21,780
And it's the coolest thing to watch in the world.

1191
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:22,740
All day long,

1192
00:35:22,820 --> 00:35:23,220
this thing's

1193
00:35:23,220 --> 00:35:24,240
just going, beep, beep,

1194
00:35:24,420 --> 00:35:26,540
and driving around and going back up and down the aisles.

1195
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,460
And not only is it autonomously cleaning the floors,

1196
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,040
but it has a stick with a camera on it,

1197
00:35:32,240 --> 00:35:34,500
and it's taking inventory of all the shelves.

1198
00:35:34,620 --> 00:35:35,000
- What?

1199
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:35,560
- It's so

1200
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:35,920
cool.

1201
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:37,040
It's how it drives.

1202
00:35:37,100 --> 00:35:38,940
It'll just like stop and wait for people

1203
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:40,300
with their carts to go by and stuff,

1204
00:35:40,300 --> 00:35:41,280
and then it'll just keep going

1205
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:42,400
and it beeps every 10 seconds.

1206
00:35:42,540 --> 00:35:43,040
It's so fun.

1207
00:35:43,410 --> 00:35:45,060
I love it, and I'm very inspired by it.

1208
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:46,960
Parallel to that, I know, that's already,

1209
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:48,780
that's not even a pitch, that's a product that exists.

1210
00:35:49,220 --> 00:35:51,080
- That's amazing. - Parallel to that,

1211
00:35:51,660 --> 00:35:53,160
we have in our town,

1212
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,400
one of thousands of Midwest festivals that happen.

1213
00:35:57,540 --> 00:35:59,000
We love our festivals around here.

1214
00:35:59,540 --> 00:36:01,660
And in order to prepare our town for it,

1215
00:36:02,060 --> 00:36:04,580
Our grounds and city hall and all that

1216
00:36:05,060 --> 00:36:09,400
go crazy with beautification, including street sweepers.

1217
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:10,640
We have so many of them.

1218
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,460
I know autonomous vehicles are very hard,

1219
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:15,780
but what if you had an autonomous vehicle

1220
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,420
whose only job was to stick real close to the curb

1221
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:19,700
and street sweep?

1222
00:36:20,420 --> 00:36:24,260
It seems like the perfect usage, the perfect little niche

1223
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,440
for baby's first self-driving.

1224
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:28,500
My pitch--

1225
00:36:28,500 --> 00:36:29,960
I don't think that would necessarily

1226
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:30,600
be that hard.

1227
00:36:30,720 --> 00:36:31,000
No.

1228
00:36:31,500 --> 00:36:31,680
Take

1229
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,160
my Roomba and put it outside?

1230
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:33,840
(laughing)

1231
00:36:34,500 --> 00:36:36,640
Roomba, street sweeper, outdoor,

1232
00:36:37,500 --> 00:36:39,100
self-driving street sweepers, yes.

1233
00:36:39,580 --> 00:36:40,360
It seems like--

1234
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:40,680
Why not?

1235
00:36:40,780 --> 00:36:43,440
You'd have the camera so you could do the whole like,

1236
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,620
you know, mapping out of all the streets and stuff

1237
00:36:46,700 --> 00:36:48,980
and have an up-to-date map of, I don't know,

1238
00:36:49,300 --> 00:36:51,040
what would you wanna have real-time information on?

1239
00:36:51,060 --> 00:36:53,160
It's like Street View but daily updated, right?

1240
00:36:53,540 --> 00:36:54,320
And it's just going

1241
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:54,700
around.

1242
00:36:54,820 --> 00:36:57,440
It's gotta be the size of like a Zamboni or smaller,

1243
00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:58,160
a little thing.

1244
00:36:58,660 --> 00:37:00,900
Full-size driven street sweepers are not that

1245
00:37:00,900 --> 00:37:01,160
big.

1246
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:02,280
They are like half a car.

1247
00:37:02,630 --> 00:37:03,540
I love the idea.

1248
00:37:03,810 --> 00:37:06,160
And I'm trying to figure out what other data you

1249
00:37:06,230 --> 00:37:07,640
could collect to make it an easier

1250
00:37:07,900 --> 00:37:08,980
sell to the municipality.

1251
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:13,140
Like, our town is notorious for if you have not

1252
00:37:13,210 --> 00:37:14,940
cut your lawn in a reasonable time,

1253
00:37:15,020 --> 00:37:15,380
they will put

1254
00:37:15,380 --> 00:37:16,420
a little ticket on your door

1255
00:37:16,420 --> 00:37:16,900
and be like,

1256
00:37:16,950 --> 00:37:18,080
hey, guys, you got to do that.

1257
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:18,760
We'll find you.

1258
00:37:19,180 --> 00:37:22,140
Well, this robot actually hops up and trims out the lawn, too.

1259
00:37:22,370 --> 00:37:22,760
I forgot

1260
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:23,220
to mention that.

1261
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:24,300
It's got blades on the back.

1262
00:37:24,340 --> 00:37:25,100
Of course, of course.

1263
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:26,500
Yes.

1264
00:37:26,780 --> 00:37:29,820
Yeah, it's got citation management.

1265
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,500
You just put in a fence and you didn't pull a permit.

1266
00:37:32,780 --> 00:37:33,000
This

1267
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:34,240
vehicle's not registered.

1268
00:37:34,300 --> 00:37:34,800
The robot

1269
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,500
saw, yeah, right.

1270
00:37:36,980 --> 00:37:40,180
It's got like the equivalent of like a pigeon launcher,

1271
00:37:40,900 --> 00:37:43,080
but the pigeon is just like a disc

1272
00:37:43,220 --> 00:37:44,840
with a bunch of tickets

1273
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:45,780
like stapled

1274
00:37:45,780 --> 00:37:46,680
to the other side.

1275
00:37:47,140 --> 00:37:49,160
Just shoots it inside your window as it goes

1276
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:49,540
by.

1277
00:37:49,700 --> 00:37:51,480
Through a brick full of citations.

1278
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:52,480
Yeah, exactly.

1279
00:37:53,660 --> 00:37:55,840
Each one's stuck into the hole,

1280
00:37:55,940 --> 00:37:56,900
that it just yeah

1281
00:37:56,900 --> 00:37:59,980
we are teetering on the edge of powered mail delivery

1282
00:37:59,980 --> 00:38:00,500
robots

1283
00:38:00,500 --> 00:38:01,080
I think here

1284
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:02,180
this thing

1285
00:38:02,180 --> 00:38:05,880
is the mailman - it shoots you packages right

1286
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:06,800
it yeah

1287
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:15,460
couldn't be more American we gave the mailman a gun this pitch evolved

1288
00:38:15,460 --> 00:38:15,800
quick

1289
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,000
yeah but seriously getting

1290
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,480
back to the core right this thing hugs the curb the

1291
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:21,940
whole time.

1292
00:38:22,140 --> 00:38:22,300
Yeah.

1293
00:38:22,300 --> 00:38:23,140
It goes slow.

1294
00:38:23,420 --> 00:38:25,500
It's like cautious by nature.

1295
00:38:25,740 --> 00:38:27,800
It's something that people are already trained to go around.

1296
00:38:28,100 --> 00:38:32,020
You could absolutely take an existing street sweeper

1297
00:38:32,060 --> 00:38:33,080
and retrofit this thing.

1298
00:38:33,460 --> 00:38:35,920
I cannot imagine that they have a very complicated driving

1299
00:38:36,020 --> 00:38:36,280
pattern.

1300
00:38:36,570 --> 00:38:36,940
They got to

1301
00:38:36,940 --> 00:38:38,700
go around trash cans

1302
00:38:38,700 --> 00:38:39,620
and parked cars,

1303
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:40,940
and that's about the hardest

1304
00:38:40,940 --> 00:38:41,680
that it gets, right?

1305
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:47,740
I mean, that sort of lower speed decision making is--

1306
00:38:47,740 --> 00:38:49,040
I mean, it's a solved problem for

1307
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:49,120
sure.

1308
00:38:49,240 --> 00:38:52,100
They can do it in a Sam's Club where people are walking around with

1309
00:38:52,100 --> 00:38:52,280
their

1310
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:52,760
toddlers.

1311
00:38:53,500 --> 00:38:53,880
Yeah, for sure.

1312
00:38:53,900 --> 00:38:54,280
That's the

1313
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:55,800
speed that this thing needs to go.

1314
00:38:55,940 --> 00:38:57,080
It works all day,

1315
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:57,820
all night.

1316
00:38:58,220 --> 00:38:58,320
Doesn't

1317
00:38:58,320 --> 00:38:58,740
sleep.

1318
00:38:59,020 --> 00:38:59,340
Yes.

1319
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:00,240
You don't have to pay

1320
00:39:00,240 --> 00:39:00,340
it.

1321
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,820
Hell, and you don't have to get it healthcare, you

1322
00:39:02,820 --> 00:39:03,160
know.

1323
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:03,500
That's

1324
00:39:03,500 --> 00:39:03,720
right.

1325
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:04,900
To our city parks department.

1326
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:05,340
I'm sorry.

1327
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:06,300
I'm gunning for your job.

1328
00:39:06,540 --> 00:39:09,860
It never says that it wants to work from home, you know,

1329
00:39:12,140 --> 00:39:13,060
unlike the existing

1330
00:39:13,060 --> 00:39:14,120
street sweeper drivers.

1331
00:39:14,900 --> 00:39:15,240
Right.

1332
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,480
But you can imagine a fleet of 10 of these things, right?

1333
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,420
They come back to their charging station like a Roomba.

1334
00:39:20,620 --> 00:39:20,860
Yeah.

1335
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,320
Could we just have it so the street sweepers work from home?

1336
00:39:24,740 --> 00:39:26,580
We just give them a remote control in there.

1337
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,060
Like, we take out all the AI part of this

1338
00:39:29,060 --> 00:39:29,380
and just

1339
00:39:29,380 --> 00:39:31,560
have them drive the robot.

1340
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,760
At least there's a stopgap until we can get the AI part

1341
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:35,180
figured

1342
00:39:35,260 --> 00:39:35,340
out.

1343
00:39:35,340 --> 00:39:35,780
And then five Indonesian children

1344
00:39:35,780 --> 00:39:36,720
are remote controlling

1345
00:39:36,740 --> 00:39:36,880
this.

1346
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:37,160
Yes.

1347
00:39:37,460 --> 00:39:37,820
Uh-huh.

1348
00:39:38,240 --> 00:39:38,720
Uh-huh.

1349
00:39:38,940 --> 00:39:39,120
Yep.

1350
00:39:39,620 --> 00:39:40,460
You got it.

1351
00:39:41,300 --> 00:39:43,580
But damn, they'd be better than any American driver

1352
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:44,360
behind

1353
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:44,600
the wheel.

1354
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:45,140
Of course they would.

1355
00:39:45,240 --> 00:39:45,760
Yeah, for real.

1356
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:47,760
even with a couple seconds of latency.

1357
00:39:50,460 --> 00:39:51,940
- They're like professional gamers

1358
00:39:52,140 --> 00:39:54,640
just cleaning the entire city in 30 minutes.

1359
00:39:56,180 --> 00:39:57,940
- They're all Rainbow Six Siege

1360
00:39:57,940 --> 00:39:59,780
high tier people.

1361
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,480
- Downtown Kalamazoo speed run 80%.

1362
00:40:03,540 --> 00:40:03,980
- They can do

1363
00:40:03,980 --> 00:40:06,100
7,000 ping and they'll beat you

1364
00:40:06,100 --> 00:40:06,780
every single day. - So Pivoting,

1365
00:40:07,260 --> 00:40:07,900
this is now

1366
00:40:07,900 --> 00:40:09,820
a thing that Twitch has, right?

1367
00:40:10,180 --> 00:40:11,280
So we are

1368
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,139
going to turn this into a sport

1369
00:40:14,140 --> 00:40:14,320
that

1370
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:15,220
people can compete.

1371
00:40:15,220 --> 00:40:15,720
Twitch clean streets.

1372
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:16,840
Exactly.

1373
00:40:17,420 --> 00:40:20,440
So anyone can plug in their controller and open your app,

1374
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,840
and you're suddenly in control of a street sweeper

1375
00:40:23,020 --> 00:40:24,500
across these United States.

1376
00:40:25,580 --> 00:40:27,920
OK, you could seriously--

1377
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,020
if you created a device that could pick up trash

1378
00:40:31,020 --> 00:40:32,680
in some form and gamified it

1379
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:32,980
in that

1380
00:40:32,980 --> 00:40:33,440
way--

1381
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:33,460
No joke, though.

1382
00:40:33,460 --> 00:40:34,700
--and you can control it--

1383
00:40:34,700 --> 00:40:35,260
Oh, man.

1384
00:40:36,100 --> 00:40:36,700
The little park cleanup bot.

1385
00:40:36,700 --> 00:40:38,000
You just solved global warming

1386
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:38,380
right there.

1387
00:40:38,420 --> 00:40:38,740
Absolutely.

1388
00:40:38,810 --> 00:40:41,700
You turn park cleanup 2025 simulator

1389
00:40:41,830 --> 00:40:43,860
into a remote control robot thing.

1390
00:40:43,940 --> 00:40:44,220
That's

1391
00:40:44,220 --> 00:40:44,560
great.

1392
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:47,140
I'm the beach cleaner guy.

1393
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:47,980
I love that.

1394
00:40:47,980 --> 00:40:48,060
I

1395
00:40:48,060 --> 00:40:50,040
mean, I genuinely think a lot about like,

1396
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,600
if the government decided that they were gonna do

1397
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,660
universal basic income, but they were still mad about people

1398
00:40:57,060 --> 00:41:00,520
like maybe not working, you could do a make work program

1399
00:41:00,720 --> 00:41:02,440
of a whole bunch of things like that.

1400
00:41:02,540 --> 00:41:05,300
You could even do like, I've been watching a lot of like,

1401
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,420
biology type videos where people just go out for surveys

1402
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,120
of like bugs and snakes and stuff.

1403
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,319
And it's really funny to be how much of that work

1404
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,640
Just walking around, finding bugs, you know,

1405
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:17,740
finding creatures.

1406
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,920
Like, I feel like you could do like a distributed

1407
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,460
citizen science and just have like a bunch of yokels

1408
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:24,680
walking around being like,

1409
00:41:24,740 --> 00:41:28,500
"I seen a bird with my camera, look!"

1410
00:41:28,500 --> 00:41:29,200
You know, and you just

1411
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:30,040
like, "Oh, look

1412
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:30,720
a bird!"

1413
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:32,640
I don't know, I mean, that feels like that would be,

1414
00:41:32,660 --> 00:41:36,280
if that was my job, man, that would be awesome.

1415
00:41:36,740 --> 00:41:37,960
I would love that.

1416
00:41:38,340 --> 00:41:40,079
Get paid to walk around in the woods

1417
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,380
and look at creatures for a survey.

1418
00:41:43,940 --> 00:41:47,960
Get paid to sit at home and do street sweeping simulator

1419
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,860
2025, but it's real and I'm actually helping.

1420
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:52,180
Yeah.

1421
00:41:52,660 --> 00:41:53,500
The market's there.

1422
00:41:53,820 --> 00:41:55,080
The market is absolutely there.

1423
00:41:55,100 --> 00:41:55,240
If

1424
00:41:55,240 --> 00:41:57,100
people will drive Euro Truck Simulator.

1425
00:41:57,620 --> 00:41:59,760
I mean, if people will do forklift

1426
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:01,120
simulator and

1427
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:01,820
power

1428
00:42:02,100 --> 00:42:04,160
washing simulator, people

1429
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:04,440
like doing stuff.

1430
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:05,140
There's a pitch.

1431
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,719
Power washing simulator plug-in, but it's actually

1432
00:42:08,720 --> 00:42:09,060
cleaning

1433
00:42:09,060 --> 00:42:10,220
your local community

1434
00:42:10,220 --> 00:42:10,780
centers.

1435
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:11,860
- Whoa, that'd be great.

1436
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:13,020
- We need a Spitball on that.

1437
00:42:13,140 --> 00:42:14,500
I wanna go hard on that.

1438
00:42:15,180 --> 00:42:15,500
- Absolutely.

1439
00:42:16,420 --> 00:42:17,620
- It's Ender's game,

1440
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:18,480
but it's

1441
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:19,060
just helpful.

1442
00:42:19,060 --> 00:42:19,120
- They

1443
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,380
flip it to real life without you even knowing.

1444
00:42:21,740 --> 00:42:21,880
- Right,

1445
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:23,220
it's just a nice thing.

1446
00:42:23,460 --> 00:42:25,860
- That's literally what I wrote down, Ender's game.

1447
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:26,620
(laughing)

1448
00:42:27,900 --> 00:42:29,060
For street sweeping.

1449
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:30,040
- Ender, don't be mad.

1450
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:31,720
This whole time you've actually been

1451
00:42:31,820 --> 00:42:32,100
cleaning

1452
00:42:32,100 --> 00:42:32,900
the homeless shelter.

1453
00:42:33,130 --> 00:42:33,280
- All

1454
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:34,980
you need is a Snapchat filter

1455
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:36,560
that makes it look like a game.

1456
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:38,740
like takes in real life images and you know,

1457
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:40,620
takes out all the resolution.

1458
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,480
You must never lose in order to win.

1459
00:42:44,620 --> 00:42:46,980
And then you just get paid money all of a sudden, right?

1460
00:42:47,060 --> 00:42:47,260
You're like,

1461
00:42:47,380 --> 00:42:47,900
holy cow,

1462
00:42:48,060 --> 00:42:49,220
I'm making money or something.

1463
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:49,980
- I mean, it would be great.

1464
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:51,080
- And no, seriously, it would not

1465
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:51,500
be hard

1466
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,380
to make a power washing robot

1467
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:54,120
that you can remote

1468
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:54,340
control from anywhere.

1469
00:42:54,340 --> 00:42:54,760
- It would be

1470
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:55,400
really not hard.

1471
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:55,640
- Just a couple

1472
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:56,760
of, a power washer,

1473
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,540
like some kind of shaft that goes up and down

1474
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:00,420
with an angle on

1475
00:43:00,420 --> 00:43:00,540
it.

1476
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:01,260
- Right. - Oh my God.

1477
00:43:01,540 --> 00:43:03,140
- Well, you need also, you know,

1478
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:04,800
if you're gonna do a robot,

1479
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:06,840
You also have to have image recognition

1480
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,600
so you're not giving people fluid injection injuries.

1481
00:43:09,860 --> 00:43:12,280
No, that's all on the person driving the thing.

1482
00:43:12,620 --> 00:43:13,500
This is America.

1483
00:43:13,620 --> 00:43:14,180
We don't have safety.

1484
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,100
How does it get set up and plugged in?

1485
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,140
You hire one guy, and he

1486
00:43:19,140 --> 00:43:20,500
runs around and drops it off.

1487
00:43:20,790 --> 00:43:22,000
One really, really stressed out guy with a laptop.

1488
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:22,640
That's

1489
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:23,240
usually how

1490
00:43:23,240 --> 00:43:23,520
it works.

1491
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:23,820
He's got

1492
00:43:23,820 --> 00:43:25,460
20 of these things in his garage,

1493
00:43:25,490 --> 00:43:27,840
and he just drops it off and runs to the next place.

1494
00:43:28,380 --> 00:43:29,060
There needs to

1495
00:43:29,060 --> 00:43:31,400
be five guys with laptops,

1496
00:43:31,590 --> 00:43:33,240
and they're all still kind of stressed.

1497
00:43:33,340 --> 00:43:34,800
But there's only one.

1498
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:36,280
- But at least they work from home.

1499
00:43:36,700 --> 00:43:38,340
- Well, they work from, it's one of those things

1500
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,720
where it's remote, but it's like 50% travel.

1501
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:43,820
But the travel would be local, so it'd be fine, you know.

1502
00:43:44,460 --> 00:43:44,820
(laughing)

1503
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,140
- It's just down to my coffee shop.

1504
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:47,980
- I'm sorry I

1505
00:43:47,980 --> 00:43:48,760
drove the street

1506
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:49,240
sweeper

1507
00:43:49,380 --> 00:43:50,440
through that brick wall.

1508
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:50,740
I

1509
00:43:50,740 --> 00:43:51,840
was on the airplane wifi

1510
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:52,800
and I

1511
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:53,280
got some

1512
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:53,480
lag.

1513
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:54,520
(laughing)

1514
00:43:55,900 --> 00:43:56,540
- Okay, hear me out.

1515
00:43:56,860 --> 00:43:59,960
Could you just like triple your human cost on there

1516
00:44:00,020 --> 00:44:02,560
and have like three people all controlling the same one?

1517
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,760
and then as a fail safe, do it Age of

1518
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:06,560
Empires style.

1519
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:07,640
-Oh, so like

1520
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:08,460
three people controlling

1521
00:44:08,460 --> 00:44:09,220
the same player.

1522
00:44:09,240 --> 00:44:10,140
-You're all trying to do

1523
00:44:10,140 --> 00:44:12,160
the same thing and there's a right and wrong answer,

1524
00:44:12,260 --> 00:44:14,580
but if two of the three say that this person's wrong,

1525
00:44:14,700 --> 00:44:16,540
then they get negative points or something.

1526
00:44:16,540 --> 00:44:17,660
-Consensus model.

1527
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:21,260
It's like the opposite of a firing squad,

1528
00:44:22,300 --> 00:44:23,280
where only one person

1529
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:24,100
has the bullet.

1530
00:44:25,460 --> 00:44:25,560
[laughter]

1531
00:44:25,980 --> 00:44:26,380
-As

1532
00:44:26,380 --> 00:44:29,140
long as it was score-based and really horrible.

1533
00:44:29,780 --> 00:44:31,000
-It weights them based off

1534
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:32,380
of how good their driving's been in the

1535
00:44:32,380 --> 00:44:32,760
past.

1536
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:34,480
- Yeah, based on the other two.

1537
00:44:34,490 --> 00:44:36,360
And as long as all three of you are the same, then.

1538
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:37,800
- Well, I mean, you're accruing a score.

1539
00:44:37,860 --> 00:44:40,800
I've got a 4.9 rating in my staying between the lines

1540
00:44:40,980 --> 00:44:42,120
and you're only a 2.6.

1541
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:42,900
- It's out of 10, man.

1542
00:44:43,460 --> 00:44:43,940
- Oh, fun.

1543
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,740
- What if, okay, local residents

1544
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,180
just bought street sweepers, okay?

1545
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:50,320
Hypothetically,

1546
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:50,760
okay?

1547
00:44:52,339 --> 00:44:53,360
Government incentivizes them.

1548
00:44:53,710 --> 00:44:56,160
All right, you buy this special street sweeper,

1549
00:44:56,490 --> 00:44:58,460
you get all the compost that comes out of it,

1550
00:44:58,980 --> 00:44:59,340
hypothetically.

1551
00:44:59,580 --> 00:45:01,940
It's a lot of free, like, what is,

1552
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,160
Do you know, Leo, if people take all those leaves

1553
00:45:05,240 --> 00:45:06,540
and they just throw it in the dump?

1554
00:45:06,610 --> 00:45:08,180
Are they composting

1555
00:45:08,180 --> 00:45:08,420
it?

1556
00:45:08,460 --> 00:45:10,240
There is such thing as a vacuum truck

1557
00:45:10,380 --> 00:45:12,460
that's different than the street sweeper that just brushes,

1558
00:45:12,700 --> 00:45:13,700
but doesn't actually--

1559
00:45:14,180 --> 00:45:15,080
Oh, I guess that's what they

1560
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:15,320
do.

1561
00:45:15,420 --> 00:45:15,960
They don't pick up

1562
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:16,720
any of the materials.

1563
00:45:17,270 --> 00:45:19,460
But there is-- what you're describing does exist also.

1564
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:21,700
So yeah, we could have a fleet of vacuum trucks.

1565
00:45:22,180 --> 00:45:22,540
[LAUGHS]

1566
00:45:23,940 --> 00:45:26,840
And you get the compost from it.

1567
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:26,920
I think

1568
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:30,700
that compost is one of these hidden revenue sources.

1569
00:45:31,020 --> 00:45:32,860
and I thought maybe this would be a--

1570
00:45:33,519 --> 00:45:34,700
- Isn't compost expensive?

1571
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:35,880
Compost is like--

1572
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:36,320
- No idea.

1573
00:45:36,420 --> 00:45:37,840
- Guys, it's like eight bucks a pound.

1574
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:39,480
- You can make your own free compost,

1575
00:45:39,660 --> 00:45:40,740
but people don't wanna do it.

1576
00:45:40,780 --> 00:45:40,920
- It's

1577
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:41,820
a lot of work.

1578
00:45:42,070 --> 00:45:42,720
And I thought maybe

1579
00:45:42,720 --> 00:45:44,220
you can take all

1580
00:45:44,220 --> 00:45:45,480
the community leaves

1581
00:45:45,540 --> 00:45:47,540
and just boom, compost it.

1582
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,200
- I think you definitely can.

1583
00:45:49,300 --> 00:45:54,500
I mean, Grand Rapids does like civic yard waste collection.

1584
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:56,200
You know, they do a good job with that.

1585
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,420
I'm assuming, well, I hope it doesn't get incinerated,

1586
00:45:59,660 --> 00:45:59,840
but it

1587
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:00,300
probably does.

1588
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:04,140
products that they collect get filtered and then sold to

1589
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:05,640
Soil making

1590
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:09,740
place like six bucks a bag or something really good stuff, you know, yeah

1591
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:10,080
Yeah,

1592
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,160
cuz they turned they did all of that, you know

1593
00:46:13,220 --> 00:46:14,880
Work that it takes right?

1594
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:16,100
Yeah. Yeah,

1595
00:46:16,580 --> 00:46:17,520
I mean I like

1596
00:46:18,060 --> 00:46:23,380
I like collecting the like just the piles of like rotten leaves

1597
00:46:24,180 --> 00:46:29,640
That like collect around my house and it's like well sweep that up and dump it on you know stuff

1598
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:33,340
I want to grow it's it's already dirt by the time it comes spring,

1599
00:46:33,370 --> 00:46:33,620
you know

1600
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:34,420
Mm-hmm.

1601
00:46:34,450 --> 00:46:40,140
I don't really I don't really mow my lawn ever or like I raked leaves for a few years

1602
00:46:40,140 --> 00:46:42,260
And then I discover the joy of mowing your

1603
00:46:42,260 --> 00:46:42,800
leaves and

1604
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,480
mulching it all that is been my last two years

1605
00:46:45,700 --> 00:46:46,200
Lifehack

1606
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,240
absolute game changer. Yeah, they get too high just

1607
00:46:49,240 --> 00:46:53,160
mow it. We have a street collection system in

1608
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:59,620
Our local town here. They'll come twice a year and pick up your your sticks and stuff from the curbside

1609
00:46:59,620 --> 00:47:00,060
and

1610
00:47:00,060 --> 00:47:00,900
that

1611
00:47:00,900 --> 00:47:02,280
all gets shuffled away.

1612
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,560
Another great candidate for dump truck

1613
00:47:05,940 --> 00:47:06,620
front end loader

1614
00:47:06,620 --> 00:47:07,620
simulator people.

1615
00:47:08,090 --> 00:47:08,220
(laughing)

1616
00:47:08,900 --> 00:47:09,940
- Ab-so

1617
00:47:09,940 --> 00:47:10,960
-lutely.

1618
00:47:10,980 --> 00:47:11,780
- That'd be fun. - Oh yeah.

1619
00:47:11,990 --> 00:47:12,560
- I love this.

1620
00:47:12,620 --> 00:47:12,800
This

1621
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:13,220
is morphing

1622
00:47:13,220 --> 00:47:15,260
into autonomous vehicle video

1623
00:47:15,260 --> 00:47:16,040
gamification.

1624
00:47:16,380 --> 00:47:16,920
This is fun.

1625
00:47:17,380 --> 00:47:18,240
- That would be awesome.

1626
00:47:18,820 --> 00:47:22,920
I mean, you know that's going to be a genre of job,

1627
00:47:23,380 --> 00:47:25,600
like certainly within our lifetimes, right?

1628
00:47:25,820 --> 00:47:26,820
Like 100%?

1629
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:27,700
- It's never dawned

1630
00:47:27,700 --> 00:47:28,360
on me, but yeah,

1631
00:47:28,580 --> 00:47:30,020
This is probably not untreaded ground.

1632
00:47:30,500 --> 00:47:32,800
- Right, like you just add something to your lawnmower

1633
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:34,160
and now somebody mows your lawn.

1634
00:47:34,540 --> 00:47:35,100
It's like Uber,

1635
00:47:35,460 --> 00:47:36,360
you just hit a button

1636
00:47:36,500 --> 00:47:38,300
and it just mows your lawn.

1637
00:47:38,500 --> 00:47:39,680
Turns left and right.

1638
00:47:40,240 --> 00:47:43,780
This is, Scott, you made this whole autonomous snowplow.

1639
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:46,960
It's too hard to make the robot version, right?

1640
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,660
So like you just get the human version.

1641
00:47:49,820 --> 00:47:51,020
- Tell me about your snowplow.

1642
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:51,900
What's the deal with the

1643
00:47:51,900 --> 00:47:52,160
snowplow?

1644
00:47:52,180 --> 00:47:52,860
- Durabot.

1645
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:53,400
That

1646
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:53,560
was

1647
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:54,500
our senior design

1648
00:47:54,500 --> 00:47:54,920
project.

1649
00:47:55,380 --> 00:47:56,500
We thought we were so clever.

1650
00:47:57,060 --> 00:47:59,140
And then Michigan, we made a prototype.

1651
00:47:59,380 --> 00:48:01,600
And then Michigan Tech that winter

1652
00:48:01,980 --> 00:48:03,660
had a contest for all the students

1653
00:48:03,740 --> 00:48:04,920
to make autonomous snowplows.

1654
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,400
And they beat the absolute crap out of what we made.

1655
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,060
So yeah, we let that patent die and moved on.

1656
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:11,020
Michigan

1657
00:48:11,020 --> 00:48:11,760
Tech did that?

1658
00:48:11,940 --> 00:48:12,620
You didn't sue them?

1659
00:48:12,620 --> 00:48:12,980
Of course

1660
00:48:12,980 --> 00:48:13,260
they

1661
00:48:13,260 --> 00:48:13,420
did.

1662
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:15,620
Those engineers are nuts.

1663
00:48:15,860 --> 00:48:16,620
They have nothing to do

1664
00:48:16,620 --> 00:48:17,760
up there except be good engineers.

1665
00:48:17,900 --> 00:48:19,760
What was the biggest difference?

1666
00:48:19,980 --> 00:48:24,040
Like, what was it that made it so much more of a killer app?

1667
00:48:24,220 --> 00:48:24,320
Well,

1668
00:48:24,500 --> 00:48:25,180
Michigan Tech--

1669
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:26,200
Why was theirs better?

1670
00:48:26,380 --> 00:48:29,640
Yeah, yeah, why was their snow pile just so much superior?

1671
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:30,360
Was

1672
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:30,960
it a bunch of things?

1673
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:31,720
All the things ours was

1674
00:48:31,720 --> 00:48:33,840
bouncing around using an invisible dog

1675
00:48:33,940 --> 00:48:36,640
fence as its perimeter and trying to go straight lines.

1676
00:48:36,650 --> 00:48:36,840
Do you

1677
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:37,620
have any idea

1678
00:48:37,620 --> 00:48:38,760
how hard it is to make

1679
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:40,280
a robot go in a straight line?

1680
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:42,460
It's obscenely difficult.

1681
00:48:43,030 --> 00:48:43,280
I don't

1682
00:48:43,350 --> 00:48:44,360
care how many compasses

1683
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:45,820
and accelerometers and crap on it,

1684
00:48:45,860 --> 00:48:47,380
it'll always start to weave, which

1685
00:48:47,460 --> 00:48:49,860
is why I like your sidewalk sweeper, Leo,

1686
00:48:49,980 --> 00:48:50,400
because it has

1687
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:51,280
a curb to follow.

1688
00:48:51,460 --> 00:48:53,620
It just-- I know where I'm at, and I just

1689
00:48:53,650 --> 00:48:54,420
keep going from there.

1690
00:48:54,740 --> 00:48:57,180
98% of the time it's literally on a track.

1691
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:58,280
- That's so much easier.

1692
00:48:58,680 --> 00:48:59,480
It can cross the street.

1693
00:48:59,500 --> 00:49:00,200
I can go to straight

1694
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:01,140
line for, you know,

1695
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:02,940
20 feet before I get the curb again.

1696
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,580
- Also, I have to imagine things have gotten

1697
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,620
a little bit better since you attempted that, Scott.

1698
00:49:08,940 --> 00:49:10,520
- Yeah, there's probably a couple more LIDAR

1699
00:49:10,720 --> 00:49:11,940
off the shelf kits and

1700
00:49:11,940 --> 00:49:12,240
stuff.

1701
00:49:12,260 --> 00:49:12,720
- Yeah, that's right.

1702
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:13,680
That was 10 years ago.

1703
00:49:14,020 --> 00:49:15,940
- A lot of this stuff has been kind of like

1704
00:49:16,220 --> 00:49:18,660
made a lot easier even in those 10 years.

1705
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,240
- Would you mow your lawn from your computer?

1706
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:22,400
- Never. - Or snowplow?

1707
00:49:22,540 --> 00:49:22,840
- Never.

1708
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:24,040
- Hill plow, yes,

1709
00:49:24,340 --> 00:49:25,080
100%.

1710
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:26,640
Yeah, that would be fun.

1711
00:49:26,940 --> 00:49:27,600
I would love that.

1712
00:49:27,660 --> 00:49:28,780
- I fantasized about

1713
00:49:28,780 --> 00:49:31,300
the little lawn mowing robots a lot.

1714
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:32,940
You can get them for under a grand now.

1715
00:49:33,020 --> 00:49:37,020
The little Hertz Covina Roomba, but for lawn mowing.

1716
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:37,660
They're

1717
00:49:37,660 --> 00:49:38,040
sweet.

1718
00:49:38,060 --> 00:49:38,700
- I would love that.

1719
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:39,240
- That's awesome.

1720
00:49:39,619 --> 00:49:41,300
- No, I probably wouldn't do it for my computer,

1721
00:49:41,540 --> 00:49:43,700
but if I could pay a robot to do it, I would.

1722
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:45,040
- See, okay, that's what I'm wondering.

1723
00:49:45,240 --> 00:49:47,780
Like, would you Roomba your house

1724
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:49,720
if you could remote control it from your computer?

1725
00:49:49,980 --> 00:49:51,040
Like, all right, I got a vacuum.

1726
00:49:51,420 --> 00:49:51,740
- That?

1727
00:49:51,740 --> 00:49:51,960
- Can I get

1728
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:52,560
to my desk?

1729
00:49:53,100 --> 00:49:58,100
I but snow plowing I have so little snow to plow that I think it would be fun

1730
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,220
Pull out the Xbox controller and

1731
00:50:00,220 --> 00:50:00,980
yeah couch

1732
00:50:00,980 --> 00:50:03,740
for an hour and a half vacuuming right under your feet,

1733
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:04,420
right?

1734
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:05,240
like

1735
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:12,680
Sorry, that's amazing. Well, I mean that's what we're doing for lawn mowing and snow plowing right in

1736
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:12,920
a way

1737
00:50:13,180 --> 00:50:18,220
I I think the biggest issue with that is like as soon as you control a video game vehicle

1738
00:50:19,060 --> 00:50:22,040
You immediately start driving like a dumbass

1739
00:50:22,700 --> 00:50:28,320
Like instantly, you know, and so I think you'd have to really fight the impulse to like

1740
00:50:29,180 --> 00:50:30,300
Crash the shit

1741
00:50:30,300 --> 00:50:32,220
out of your thing for fun. You know,

1742
00:50:32,660 --> 00:50:35,720
I forgot this wasn't Grand Theft Auto right ran over a hooker

1743
00:50:35,900 --> 00:50:36,360
Yeah, this is

1744
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:41,840
it for tonight. I can't like ramp my shit off of like a hundred like meter cliff and be fine

1745
00:50:42,020 --> 00:50:42,480
You know,

1746
00:50:42,720 --> 00:50:44,340
okay totally different tangent

1747
00:50:44,340 --> 00:50:44,860
on there

1748
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:45,320
You

1749
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:46,020
said Xbox

1750
00:50:46,020 --> 00:50:48,580
controller mowing your lawn is snow plowing driveway or whatever

1751
00:50:49,180 --> 00:50:52,900
Could you do it once where you drive it yourself and follow it around?

1752
00:50:53,380 --> 00:50:58,800
Like record it and then just dead reckoning do it the next time just hit play and have it go again

1753
00:50:59,080 --> 00:50:59,700
I think

1754
00:50:59,700 --> 00:51:04,080
so you'd have to do a lot of like built-in course

1755
00:51:04,820 --> 00:51:07,900
Automatic course correction. Yes, we got LIDAR we could

1756
00:51:07,900 --> 00:51:14,820
yeah. Yeah

1757
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:15,960
- Yeah, a mouse is fine.

1758
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:18,540
You can do that one time and it'll just repeat.

1759
00:51:18,620 --> 00:51:21,060
I think there are so many weird little,

1760
00:51:22,060 --> 00:51:23,920
snow plowing especially, you're gonna get into

1761
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:27,640
a bunch of really dumb, annoying physics

1762
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:29,420
that make it so

1763
00:51:29,420 --> 00:51:30,920
that the forces it's feeling

1764
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:31,540
are very

1765
00:51:31,540 --> 00:51:31,980
different.

1766
00:51:32,340 --> 00:51:32,900
Yeah, absolutely.

1767
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:33,880
- It is.

1768
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:35,500
- I think it would be doable for sure.

1769
00:51:35,900 --> 00:51:37,380
- I remember making some programs

1770
00:51:37,580 --> 00:51:39,400
with Windows screen recorder

1771
00:51:39,700 --> 00:51:41,040
where it records your mouse clicks

1772
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:42,860
and it's like, but if you move the mouse,

1773
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:43,560
well, I don't know.

1774
00:51:44,220 --> 00:51:46,460
You could have some points on your lawn, right?

1775
00:51:46,580 --> 00:51:48,320
That it just always course corrects to.

1776
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:48,640
- Oh yeah.

1777
00:51:49,020 --> 00:51:49,620
It's doable.

1778
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:51,960
I think it's totally doable, but you know.

1779
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:56,080
- Well, dear listener, as you are sitting on the couch,

1780
00:51:56,420 --> 00:51:57,560
having us on in the background,

1781
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:01,620
mowing your lawn and driving around your Roomba,

1782
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:03,120
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1783
00:52:03,420 --> 00:52:04,920
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1784
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:05,580
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1785
00:52:05,660 --> 00:52:06,260
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1786
00:52:06,740 --> 00:52:07,540
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1787
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1788
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1795
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1796
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1801
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,300
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1802
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1803
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