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I'm Scott. I'm Russell. And I'm Leo. This is Spitball.

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Welcome to Spitball, where three kooky computerphiles and a guest empty our heads of startup and

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tech product ideas that we have stuck up in there so you can all have them for free.

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Anything that we say is yours to keep. And I believe Russell, you brought our guest this time.

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Is that right? That's right. I brought Jordan here. I know him from the college competitive

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entrepreneurial business circuit. He started a company called Arindi. He's like a super engineer

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consultant guy also on the side. And now he does solar installations. So he's, you know,

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living his best life out in these parts, which is hard to do in our neck of the woods.

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The entrepreneur grind.

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Yeah. So welcome, Jordan. Thanks for joining. Yeah.

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Yeah, I guess. Thank you, guys.

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So excited to have you.

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As we all know, not always is the first idea the best idea, except, you know, when it's pitched

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on our show. This week for getting a little bit of a warm up game going, I want to talk

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a little bit about the pivot. The idea that a business starts off doing one thing and then

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decides this isn't working and they decide to pivot to something else. We're going to play

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a little game that I'm going to call pivot or fibbit. I want to give you a scenario of a business that did

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this. Is it true or is it something that I made up? Starting with you, of course, as we always do. Jordan,

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did you know, yes or no, truth or false, YouTube began as a video dating service where users could upload

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videos of themselves talking about their ideal partner and then they decided to pivot to general

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video hosting. Did that actually happen or did I make that up?

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riveting. I would have tried it if it existed. I don't think it happened.

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It absolutely is. That's the origins of the video.

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No, I'm not kidding.

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Yeah, they developed this whole stack for like uploading and processing and displaying videos

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and they were like, wow, this actually works really well and nobody wanted to do the dating thing.

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Apparently VHS dating but on the internet isn't a thing.

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I wonder what their name was before YouTube.

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Oh, I don't know. I know that their slogan was tune in, hook up.

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Yeah, it's a good thing they did that pivot.

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Amazing.

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Scott, Amazon began as a library cataloging software company before they pivoted to consumer book sales.

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Did I make it up or is that actually the story?

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I think that's false. I think it was just straight up selling books at that point.

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Bezos is way too ruthless to be involved in non-profit.

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I worked in a bookstore. We were talking about Amazon from the day they went live.

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Russell.

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Yep.

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Shopify started as an online snowboard equipment store called Snow Devil before they realized that their e-commerce platform was more valuable than their snowboard sales.

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True or false?

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Whoa.

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That'd be so cool.

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I'm going to say true just because I want it to be true.

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It's totally true.

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Pivot in 2006.

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That's exactly how it started.

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Jordan.

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Jordan.

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Netflix started as a movie theater subscription service offering unlimited tickets before they pivoted to the DVD by mail and theaters rejected that model.

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I just listened to a competitive podcast about Netflix.

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And I want to say that's true.

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That is something I totally made up.

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MoviePass equals Netflix.

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There we go.

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MoviePass has an awesome documentary out there.

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MoviePass, MovieFlop or something.

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I forget the name of it.

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MoviePass itself has its own drama.

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Scott.

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Slack started as a gaming company developing an MMO called Glitch.

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And then their internal chat team tool ended up becoming the main product.

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That would be really cool.

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I do not believe that though.

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That's exactly what happened.

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No kidding.

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They were called Tiny Spec Studios.

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They had an MMO for a year in 2011.

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Then they shuttered the game in 2012.

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They're like, wow, this thing that we built is really good.

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And then they launched Slack in 2013.

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And that's how you get bought by Salesforce.

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Is that game still playable?

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I think it shut down.

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Instagram began internally as bourbon.

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B-U-R-B-N.

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A four square knockoff check-in app that you'd focused on whiskey and bourbon lovers.

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And it happened to have photo features.

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That didn't happen.

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That's not a problem.

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That's exactly how it went.

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For bourbon and whiskey lovers?

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It never actually launched.

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That was how they built and pitched the app at first.

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And then they're like, wow, all this photo stuff is actually working okay.

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Oh my gosh.

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I know.

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One more time through.

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Jordan.

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eBay began as a website for tracking and collecting Pez dispenser collections before they became a general auction site.

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Someone who's very passionate about Pez.

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I gotta say no.

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It is in fact not true.

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But that is a story that their marketing department has made up and told before to be whimsical about their origins.

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It was like an auction site or whatever.

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But they're like, yeah, we started as a business.

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But it's totally not true.

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What a founder story right there.

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It was such a bizarre thing for a company to lie about their own origins.

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Scott, Yelp started as an automated email system where you'd email friends for business recommendations and it would organize your friends' replies before they pivoted to public reviews.

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That actually sounds plausible, but I'm going to still say false.

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I just don't think that's the case.

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That's exactly how it went.

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It's true.

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Goddamn.

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Crazy.

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0-3.

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Good for you, Yelp.

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It was true.

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2004 to 2005, they were this weird little email service and then nobody wanted to email their friends.

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Organize your emails.

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I know.

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Check out this Chinese place at this gas station.

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It's great.

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And then lastly, Russell, PayPal began as Confinity, making security software for Palm pilots that let users beam payments to each other over infrared.

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These are so cool.

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Yes, it happened.

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That was it.

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That's how it went.

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1998, actually.

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There's a lot of weird stories out there.

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I knew about the YouTube ones.

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I'm like, I wonder if this has ever happened anywhere else.

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There's so many other weird ones, right?

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Leo, that's like the best game ever.

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This is the best game.

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That was a really good one.

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Ever played.

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I liked it.

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It's like Spitball is like, we're real.

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If we had just launched one of these damn things, we'll pivot into a slack.

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What was our origin story?

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It'll always be endlessly entertaining to me that YouTube was a dating service.

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Like, that's always been one of those fun, like, I don't know, tech party trick trivias that I had in my back pocket.

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Yeah, that's a good one.

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Scott's over three, which I think Jordan's a winner.

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Scott always gets the hardest.

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Who wants to kick us off this week?

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I can start us off.

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Do it.

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Scott.

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Thank you.

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You are the biggest loser, so you have to go first.

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What is your idea for this week?

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Sounds good.

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I'm going to try.

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All right.

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I'm going to put another dollar in the AI swear jar.

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So, sorry ahead of time.

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Scotty.

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I know.

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I just keep coming.

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What do you got?

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So, I was reading a random Stephen King book over Christmas, and there was one.

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There was a scene in it that Stephen King's just a very descriptive writer in every form.

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And I'm reading this, and I'm like, I wonder if anyone's ever made, like, some fan art of this one going through.

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Because this is, people always use fun random fan art if you Google it.

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There wasn't any.

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It's a very old book.

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So, I'm like, screw it.

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I took a picture of it, just the page, put it in the chat GPT, and I said, show me what this looks like.

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And it created just this incredible rendition of exactly what he described.

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I had no other prompt than that.

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Just show me what this author has described.

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And that reminded me of a time, Leo and I used to play D&D a lot, when we had one of our friends, Sean Craddy, who would, he wouldn't play D&D with us, but he would just kind of sit in the corner and just sketch what was happening.

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And, like, every five or ten minutes, he would just kind of turn around and hold up, like, some crazy scene that we were describing, because he's a very good artist.

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We'd be like, oh, that's cool.

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So, all that combined, I want an AI app for live drawing things as you describe them.

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And the initial thing was just D&D, right?

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You can go on Fiverr and pay someone, like, you describe a scene, and they will create the characters and everything and draw it for you.

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But I want this just, like, constantly cycling, like, a Google Photos in the background of just whatever the heck you're talking about.

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And listening to the conversation, taking in what's going on and displaying it.

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And just, yeah, that's the whole idea.

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And I realize this would be very simple to build app-wise, but I also really want this.

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Oh, it's so cool.

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So, like, you could take literally, so I'm thinking, like, Harry Potter, right?

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You have, like, an illustration per chapter.

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But imagine, like, a couple more of, like, the most iconic scenes.

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You take some of the images that the illustrator made before, and now you have a more illustrative version, a picture book of Harry Potter with the same illustrations.

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Like, that just is so cool that you can, yeah, that'd be awesome.

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Like, we're reading Harry Potter to my niece and nephew right now, and they're just like, it's their first time.

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They're, you know, six years old and going through and just describing it as you're going.

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That would be great for children's stories.

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Even if it's Harry Potter, if you're making up a kid's story, it's just, like, showing pictures of whatever the heck you're talking about to the kids.

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Does that, like, deplete their imagination going through?

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I don't know.

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I mean, external imagination box.

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They're just like, oh, you can give it purple hair, and now snakes are around it.

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Interesting.

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Yeah, let them add to the prompt.

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Picture books are, like, what you start children off.

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So, like, we've already killed their imagination before they get to chapter books, right?

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So, that's it.

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No, but I think, no, I guess what I'm saying is, I think.

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Picture books ruin your kids.

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Oh, damn it.

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We messed it up.

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Better luck with the next good.

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I mean, you could sell this as a service, Scott, to, like, authors.

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Like, why not?

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Just, like, all right, we'll take your books, throw some more imagery in there, and you just, you know, facilitate illustrations for different versions.

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And basically, take a book that's as old as time, like Dune, right?

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Dune is so hard to read.

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I mean, you don't need visuals, but it almost make it better, because it's so, yeah.

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There's a ton of fan art.

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Like, Dune's a great example.

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There's a ton of fan art.

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If I Google any scene in Dune, it's been around for so long, people are like, here's all the different ways that I visualize this.

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Oh, cool.

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Right?

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So, this is another version.

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You can do that for anything.

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So, can we just take the copy from a book and just say, hey, convert this to a movie?

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And flammo, get rid of all of the...

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Oh, man.

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Storyboard the hell out of it.

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Yeah.

251
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Create a storyboard for this book.

252
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Here's every page.

253
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Go.

254
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Just imagine the compute needed to do all this.

255
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You're taking a...

256
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Burn down the Amazon for it.

257
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It's $10 a month.

258
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What are you talking about?

259
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I think conversationally, though, it would be cool.

260
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Like, I think that's what's unique and different.

261
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Yeah, the fact that it's live.

262
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Right next to you going...

263
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So, I'm going to generously set aside all the copyrighted books here.

264
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I am curious.

265
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The big budget franchises like your Dunes and Harry Potters, I wonder how much the training set has been tainted by the already existing adaptations.

266
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Like, are you only going to get Daniel Radcliffe doing stuff?

267
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You know what I mean?

268
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Oh.

269
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Like, this would have been such a different prospect if we had been only feeding in art generated from 2012 and prior.

270
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Or whenever the first couple of Harry Potters hadn't been out yet, you know?

271
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So, it's interesting to think of the implications of, like, oh, man, I'm just getting Javier Bardem in Dune or whatever, you know?

272
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That was what was really cool about the Stephen King page I scanned in because it was just like...

273
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It was just verbatim.

274
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This is the only text you have in the world about this.

275
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Just describe what is going on in this scene.

276
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And it did.

277
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And I guess you could, you know, you could change the prompt in some form to be like, just describe exactly what is in this text.

278
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Describe a kid with a lightning bolt scar and brown hair and blah, blah, blah.

279
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How was the representation of the image that it came out with?

280
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It was fantastic.

281
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I put it on the subreddit immediately.

282
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I'm like, guys, this is really cool.

283
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Check this out.

284
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AI as the collector and indexer and organizer of the thing that you want the scene of is the key.

285
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Where you've got, like, oh, man, you know, take this page and figure out what are the key parts that are actually important to depict.

286
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Or you're listening for a half hour to rambling at a D&D table.

287
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Turn that into, like, the moment and hear you describe that in a couple of sentences, right?

288
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It's the art piece that I'm hung up on.

289
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I'm worried about all the existing fan artists.

290
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And I'm worried about the, like, yeah, I know that Fiverr is probably not long for this world because, you know, all of those are low-hanging fruit to be automated away.

291
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How can we turn this idea into something that doesn't eliminate humans from the picture?

292
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Straight-up storybook for, or a device for when you're making up a story for your kids.

293
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And that's the only one I can come up with, where it's just visually showing whatever crap you're making up.

294
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ChatGPT and Claude are both excellent at creating bedtime stories.

295
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Crap.

296
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I don't know if you've tried that before.

297
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No, no, no.

298
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Like, to read to your kid.

299
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Write me a quick story about the two guys from Paw Patrol who go on an adventure to meet the Mars rover.

300
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Because those are the things that you're into right now, four-year-old, you know.

301
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And then, oh, man.

302
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Oh, it is so good.

303
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One of my friends made a little demo of AI.

304
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And they would say, hey, we're going to make some kids' books.

305
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And with whatever prompt you want, it's like, hey, Blueberry goes on an adventure.

306
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First, it writes that script.

307
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It says, hey, we're going to write it in 12 different pages.

308
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It then summarizes the copy from that, generates a cover title image.

309
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Oh, my God.

310
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And then it generates an image per page as well.

311
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And he was like, yeah, I did this in the afternoon.

312
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It's pretty much free.

313
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Maybe like 12 bucks a month just for subscriptions.

314
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And it's just.

315
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That was me.

316
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Yeah.

317
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That was Russ.

318
00:14:06,620 --> 00:14:07,280
That was Russ.

319
00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,620
Leo was there for that, right?

320
00:14:09,620 --> 00:14:09,960
You were there.

321
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I was.

322
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Yeah.

323
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Oh, good.

324
00:14:11,140 --> 00:14:12,240
It's incredible, right?

325
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Freaking AI books is.

326
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But no, I agree.

327
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It's amazing, right, Jordan?

328
00:14:16,860 --> 00:14:20,840
I'm sorry I forgot that you made that presentation, Russ.

329
00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:22,580
Oh, I know.

330
00:14:22,580 --> 00:14:23,140
I'm not memorable.

331
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I have this really smart friend.

332
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I can't remember who it was.

333
00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:26,500
It's so impressive.

334
00:14:26,500 --> 00:14:29,100
It's not this dumbass in the room, but I'm not kidding.

335
00:14:29,100 --> 00:14:35,520
But I think there's something about like a real time thing, Scott, that'd be so cool.

336
00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:36,160
Yes.

337
00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:36,460
Real time.

338
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That's what I'm stuck on, too.

339
00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:38,680
That is so cool.

340
00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:42,640
Having the thing that's listening in the room and like summarizing the D&D.

341
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Ignoring all the other crap and just focusing on the main part of the main scene, like

342
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you said.

343
00:14:46,540 --> 00:14:47,500
I think that's the key.

344
00:14:47,500 --> 00:14:51,340
I'm embarrassed I didn't think of it, but the worst part of playing D&D is recapping what happened

345
00:14:51,340 --> 00:14:54,900
last time and trying to get back up to speed when you first sit down at the table again

346
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or online or whatever.

347
00:14:55,980 --> 00:15:00,940
Having it listen to the last couple of sessions and writing the here's what you should be remembering,

348
00:15:00,940 --> 00:15:03,960
here's where we're starting notes is so good.

349
00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:08,900
Also, just being able to use it as like making myself be a good artist.

350
00:15:08,900 --> 00:15:19,660
I can just look at a screen and be like, oh, yeah, it's a forest grove with this and that and adding adjectives and like enabling a kid to do that, too, and unleash their creativity through their eyes and voice.

351
00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:29,200
Like, okay, what if you brought this into schools and like, all right, kids, everybody, you're going to write a story, like a couple sentence story.

352
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And then you use this tool and it generates a cover or an image and a picture of your, you know, this story.

353
00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:41,800
And this kid probably is like, whoa, my story came to life, right?

354
00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:47,080
It's there's some visual like buzz that you get with high.

355
00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:52,040
You know, when you're like, oh, whoa, my art is alive, right?

356
00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,780
So I think that's, yeah, inspirational, right?

357
00:15:54,780 --> 00:16:01,300
I saw a feel good social media post this week of a teacher who fired up a local image generator on her computer at home,

358
00:16:01,300 --> 00:16:04,560
took pictures of all the kids in her elementary school class.

359
00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:05,220
You saw that, too.

360
00:16:05,220 --> 00:16:09,340
And then generated here's what you would look like as the career that you want to be.

361
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Here's you as an astronaut in 20 years.

362
00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,920
Here's you as a, you know, doctor or whatever.

363
00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:14,500
Really cool.

364
00:16:14,500 --> 00:16:15,680
Just connects the dots.

365
00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:16,260
The kids were really into it.

366
00:16:16,260 --> 00:16:17,240
Something about that, right?

367
00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:17,500
Yeah.

368
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Visualizing it like tangibly.

369
00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:19,740
Yeah.

370
00:16:19,740 --> 00:16:21,900
Oh, I was thinking like, okay, okay.

371
00:16:21,900 --> 00:16:23,320
I feel like charades.

372
00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:24,040
Wait, sorry.

373
00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:25,160
I want to do one more thing.

374
00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:29,460
This like would be really interesting for like a board game like charades or something.

375
00:16:29,460 --> 00:16:38,960
We're like, I know this sounds crazy, but so Pictionary, I guess like, like a real life example of this is like real time image descriptions, right?

376
00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:42,900
So imagine you're you and your AI friend like this is a whole new game.

377
00:16:42,900 --> 00:16:45,860
It listens to your conversation.

378
00:16:46,020 --> 00:16:52,100
You're trying to create an image that would, and I feel like we got to figure this out a little bit more.

379
00:16:52,480 --> 00:17:01,580
But like you have to talk to the AI and it has to generate an image and it probably like, you know, you have to say the right words in order to create the right response or something, right?

380
00:17:01,940 --> 00:17:08,560
You ever play teledraw where you have like, everyone starts with the same prompt and then the next person draws that.

381
00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:12,940
And then the next person after that is only allowed to describe what they drew.

382
00:17:12,940 --> 00:17:14,560
And then they fold that over.

383
00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,480
Then the next person is only allowed to draw what that description was.

384
00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:22,680
And you kind of do the like game of telephone where you're only either looking at a picture describing it or vice versa.

385
00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:23,740
You need to do that.

386
00:17:23,740 --> 00:17:30,020
But like Jackbox style where it's got an AI in the middle that you're describing to trying to get it to generate the thing.

387
00:17:30,020 --> 00:17:33,060
Whatever it comes up with, someone else has to try to interpret.

388
00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:35,260
You could like have it be one of the players.

389
00:17:35,260 --> 00:17:36,320
That could be a really fun game.

390
00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,480
Yeah, I'm surprised they don't have something like that.

391
00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:39,140
Like.

392
00:17:39,140 --> 00:17:39,820
Yeah.

393
00:17:39,820 --> 00:17:41,800
AI enabled Pictionary.

394
00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:46,740
Because it's expensive as hell to run those language models and image generators.

395
00:17:46,740 --> 00:17:49,560
And they don't have venture capital funding to burn.

396
00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:54,580
My $2 a month subscription free fee to Jackbox is enough.

397
00:17:54,580 --> 00:17:57,240
Would you pay $20 a month for Jackbox Plus?

398
00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:57,760
I don't know.

399
00:17:57,760 --> 00:17:58,100
Yeah.

400
00:17:58,100 --> 00:17:59,720
Probably not.

401
00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:05,320
All right, Jordan.

402
00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:06,640
What have you brought this week?

403
00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:10,360
So I've always been fascinated about those drinking fountains.

404
00:18:10,360 --> 00:18:18,360
Like the Eclay water bottle filters where that perfect laminar flow comes out of it and just fills your water bottle just perfectly.

405
00:18:18,360 --> 00:18:21,360
Like that beautiful laminar flow.

406
00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:33,060
I'm always just trying to imagine like redirecting that into like this arch that I can grab in my mouth or like shoot it around the airport where I'm just everyone's looking for some sort of entertainment.

407
00:18:33,060 --> 00:18:38,600
I've always just wanted to be able to drink from a drinking fountain with a bit more excitement.

408
00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:46,440
And I feel like that Eclay water bottle filler is like the start of my childhood dream of just catching water in my mouth.

409
00:18:46,500 --> 00:18:50,100
Like the jumping fountains that you see in the downtown parks.

410
00:18:50,100 --> 00:18:51,600
Yeah, downtown parks.

411
00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:55,140
But you can drink the water instead of get chlorine filter.

412
00:18:55,140 --> 00:18:56,160
Yes.

413
00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:58,580
You just don't recycle it.

414
00:18:58,580 --> 00:19:00,120
That's fun.

415
00:19:00,120 --> 00:19:01,960
Dude, that'd be fun as heck.

416
00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,700
You're just walking around like, oh, I'm going to get a drink real quick.

417
00:19:04,780 --> 00:19:06,820
And you just full on hibachi.

418
00:19:06,820 --> 00:19:10,780
Throwing the broccoli in the mouth.

419
00:19:10,780 --> 00:19:14,160
I mean, that's how I'm picturing it.

420
00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:18,580
We're like, there's just like a thing where like, put your head here, open your mouth and don't move.

421
00:19:18,580 --> 00:19:22,100
Something shoots from 100 feet away and hits it perfectly.

422
00:19:22,100 --> 00:19:23,920
The Guantanamo simulator.

423
00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,000
Oh, God.

424
00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,980
There is something memorizing about a laminar flow though, right?

425
00:19:28,980 --> 00:19:30,700
Like what is up with that?

426
00:19:30,700 --> 00:19:31,240
Yeah.

427
00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:32,460
It's so cool.

428
00:19:32,860 --> 00:19:42,560
I'm just imagining like it could go into like century mode where all of a sudden, maybe it's not just like the stick your head here kind of mode, but we can direct it and aim it.

429
00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:50,480
We had a previous guest get just that, but in the backyard on their roof, getting water that squirrels and stuff to spook them away.

430
00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,380
You almost want that, but like for people.

431
00:19:52,380 --> 00:19:53,340
Keep them out of his crops.

432
00:19:53,340 --> 00:19:55,860
Squirrels, children, all of the above.

433
00:19:57,500 --> 00:19:59,220
I don't remember who this was.

434
00:19:59,220 --> 00:20:07,400
There's some YouTuber who created a wastebasket that if I were to crumple up paper and toss it behind me, the wastebasket would always move to the position.

435
00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:10,820
It would track the trajectory and do the calc and figure out, okay, it's got to go here.

436
00:20:10,820 --> 00:20:11,560
Dude, of course.

437
00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:13,620
I mean, you could do that with your laminar flow, right?

438
00:20:13,620 --> 00:20:15,160
It's just, there's a camera.

439
00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:16,260
It's watching your face.

440
00:20:16,260 --> 00:20:17,320
It knows where your mouth is.

441
00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:18,300
X, Y, Z coordinates.

442
00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:22,660
I know that if I shoot it from this angle, this spot's going to hit you perfectly, even if you're moving.

443
00:20:22,660 --> 00:20:29,440
Big box on the floor, drawn in tape, anywhere in there where you look at the wall, the second you open your mouth, you get blasted.

444
00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,380
You just got to yell, pull, and then it'll shoot in.

445
00:20:32,380 --> 00:20:34,540
And wherever you are, it'll hit you.

446
00:20:34,540 --> 00:20:35,760
Pull!

447
00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:40,720
That seems like an art installation.

448
00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:44,860
Jordan, you put that at GR, you know, like whatever.

449
00:20:44,860 --> 00:20:45,380
For real.

450
00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:46,580
Yep.

451
00:20:46,580 --> 00:20:49,280
And now you're walking around, it's like, put that at art price.

452
00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:50,500
Water conservation.

453
00:20:50,500 --> 00:20:55,180
You know, you'll have a whole thing around it and you're like, you can make some backstory with it.

454
00:20:55,180 --> 00:20:55,980
You'll figure it out.

455
00:20:55,980 --> 00:20:57,360
Do the why later.

456
00:20:57,360 --> 00:21:01,620
Water conservation.

457
00:21:01,620 --> 00:21:06,420
We drained 20,000 gallons through this installation, but look how beautiful it is.

458
00:21:06,420 --> 00:21:07,840
It's to bring awareness, all right?

459
00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:09,880
It's all in good faith, you know?

460
00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:10,920
Oh, of course.

461
00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:11,180
Yeah.

462
00:21:11,180 --> 00:21:12,200
That makes sense.

463
00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:18,380
You know what's even better than reusing plastic water bottles is having no water bottles to destroy the earth at all, Russell.

464
00:21:18,380 --> 00:21:20,660
We just have these on every street corner.

465
00:21:20,660 --> 00:21:22,080
It's the city of the future.

466
00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:26,040
Anywhere in the world, you could say pull and you'll just get water.

467
00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:27,600
From orbit.

468
00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,040
Love it.

469
00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:31,240
Future from Starlink.

470
00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:31,880
I love it.

471
00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:33,080
From Starlink.

472
00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:37,020
We just attach these giant-ass cannons to the top of every cell phone tower.

473
00:21:38,020 --> 00:21:41,220
Pay the subscription fee and you get like root beer or something.

474
00:21:41,220 --> 00:21:42,260
Okay, wait.

475
00:21:42,260 --> 00:21:42,820
Hold on.

476
00:21:42,820 --> 00:21:43,600
I have...

477
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:44,580
This made me think, Jordan.

478
00:21:44,580 --> 00:21:45,920
So the laminar float...

479
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:47,120
What if you created a water...

480
00:21:47,120 --> 00:21:47,580
Did you...

481
00:21:47,580 --> 00:21:49,180
Is this a water bottle that does laminar flows?

482
00:21:49,180 --> 00:21:51,100
Or are you just talking about the...

483
00:21:51,100 --> 00:21:51,700
Oh, interesting.

484
00:21:51,700 --> 00:21:52,840
The filler, right?

485
00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:53,160
Okay.

486
00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,080
What if you had...

487
00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,040
So using the power of laminar flows.

488
00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:57,480
Okay.

489
00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:02,600
You have a water bottle that turns into a water fountain that recycles.

490
00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:03,780
And so now you're just...

491
00:22:03,780 --> 00:22:04,800
I don't know how gross that is.

492
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:06,040
But like...

493
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:07,400
So imagine you have a water bottle.

494
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:07,860
Wait.

495
00:22:07,860 --> 00:22:10,180
It's got a spout and a receiving end, right?

496
00:22:10,180 --> 00:22:10,580
Okay.

497
00:22:10,580 --> 00:22:11,100
And so...

498
00:22:11,100 --> 00:22:12,260
No, that's where you lose me.

499
00:22:12,260 --> 00:22:13,740
How does it have a receiving end?

500
00:22:13,740 --> 00:22:14,340
Okay.

501
00:22:14,340 --> 00:22:14,800
Okay.

502
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:16,080
A laminar float.

503
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:17,280
We'll shoot...

504
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:18,780
It'll go straight up and into the...

505
00:22:18,780 --> 00:22:19,580
Back in the water bottle.

506
00:22:19,580 --> 00:22:20,120
There's a bowl.

507
00:22:20,120 --> 00:22:21,540
It's a funnel on top?

508
00:22:21,540 --> 00:22:24,880
You've got a little tiny basin on the top of the cap of the water bottle.

509
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:26,900
Like a tiny mini baby drinking fountain.

510
00:22:26,900 --> 00:22:27,420
Wait.

511
00:22:27,420 --> 00:22:28,760
It shoots into itself.

512
00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:29,300
It's the basin.

513
00:22:30,420 --> 00:22:32,140
This is an audio podcast, Russell.

514
00:22:32,140 --> 00:22:37,860
Use ChatGPT to describe it based on Russell's description here.

515
00:22:37,860 --> 00:22:37,980
Yeah.

516
00:22:37,980 --> 00:22:38,060
Yeah.

517
00:22:38,060 --> 00:22:40,140
Listeners, go on ChatGPT and figure this out.

518
00:22:40,140 --> 00:22:40,340
Okay.

519
00:22:40,340 --> 00:22:44,600
Are you saying a little tiny baby drinking fountain where there's both a spout and a drain at the

520
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:45,140
top of a bottle?

521
00:22:45,140 --> 00:22:45,500
Yeah.

522
00:22:45,500 --> 00:22:46,500
But it's just recircuted.

523
00:22:46,500 --> 00:22:46,740
Yeah.

524
00:22:46,740 --> 00:22:47,880
But it's all in a water bottle.

525
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:48,360
Yeah.

526
00:22:48,360 --> 00:22:48,620
Yeah.

527
00:22:48,620 --> 00:22:49,080
Yeah.

528
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:49,160
Yeah.

529
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:49,480
Okay.

530
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:50,360
Now we're...

531
00:22:50,360 --> 00:22:50,560
Pretty fun.

532
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,400
Now we're talking like futuristic and it's...

533
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:57,080
You can go all this into like, oh, you never have to clean your dirty water bottle.

534
00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:57,500
Right?

535
00:22:57,500 --> 00:22:58,020
You never...

536
00:22:58,020 --> 00:22:59,820
You know how those water bottles always get dirty?

537
00:23:00,020 --> 00:23:01,100
Dude, we got...

538
00:23:01,100 --> 00:23:01,520
Sorry, Jordan.

539
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:02,460
We'll talk about this later.

540
00:23:02,460 --> 00:23:04,980
We'll make this into a real thing.

541
00:23:04,980 --> 00:23:07,320
Drinking fountains.

542
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:08,280
Famously clean.

543
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:12,540
Okay.

544
00:23:12,540 --> 00:23:14,640
This is fun.

545
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:15,360
I would...

546
00:23:15,360 --> 00:23:16,980
I mean, it'd be novel for sure.

547
00:23:16,980 --> 00:23:18,680
The novelty of it would be great.

548
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:24,100
It's kind of like the Gatorade water bottles where you just squeeze and it just blasts this...

549
00:23:24,100 --> 00:23:24,400
Oh!

550
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:25,200
There we go.

551
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,800
That makes way more sense to my stupid...

552
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:29,620
But laminar flow.

553
00:23:29,620 --> 00:23:29,760
Oh!

554
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,560
There's a differentiating factor.

555
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:32,820
What makes you unique?

556
00:23:32,820 --> 00:23:33,780
It's luxury.

557
00:23:33,780 --> 00:23:36,400
It's the luxury version of the Gatorade bottle.

558
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,220
Well, we can pitch Louis Vuitton on this.

559
00:23:38,220 --> 00:23:40,080
Don't mess up your makeup.

560
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:41,320
Go straight in your mouth.

561
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:41,720
Yep.

562
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,620
Louis, Gucci...

563
00:23:43,620 --> 00:23:46,020
Dude, Kanye's gonna be all over this if he's still around, you know?

564
00:23:46,020 --> 00:23:47,680
He's gonna be all about this.

565
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:53,060
All right.

566
00:23:53,060 --> 00:23:53,080
All right.

567
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:54,620
I'm gonna hand this over to you, Russell.

568
00:23:54,620 --> 00:23:55,520
All right, guys.

569
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,280
Well, I hope you guys had a happy holidays.

570
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,500
Coming out in late January.

571
00:24:01,500 --> 00:24:02,280
What an intro.

572
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,320
Coming out in late January.

573
00:24:04,780 --> 00:24:16,120
But, you know, one of the things that happens every Christmas, at least with my family or some version of it, is like, kind of like a dessert potluck or like kind of thing.

574
00:24:16,120 --> 00:24:24,380
And so, but since I don't, like, see my family all that often, I was like, and I think we had pitched a similar idea, but I want to take this up a notch.

575
00:24:24,380 --> 00:24:37,880
But it's like the idea of a cookie exchange remotely sending and receiving cookies or desserts or whatever you have that you want to do an exchange on.

576
00:24:38,120 --> 00:24:46,300
And you can do it with your family, your friends, and you can create a whole app system behind it with, like, sending food, all that good stuff, right?

577
00:24:46,300 --> 00:24:51,660
Because I feel like the idea of sending food sounds really whimsical and idealistic.

578
00:24:51,660 --> 00:24:55,620
But then when you actually go to do it, you're like, God, what am I paying for this box?

579
00:24:55,620 --> 00:24:57,260
How am I supposed to keep this cold?

580
00:24:57,260 --> 00:24:59,040
Like, where's the cardboard, right?

581
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:06,040
Like, and so I think the app would, like, like an app version of this would match with people, match with your family.

582
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:13,340
You can create groups, you can create, like, a secret Santa almost experience with, like, a cookie exchange, a dessert exchange or whatever, right?

583
00:25:13,340 --> 00:25:33,660
And we have special boxes, let's say, that allow for 10 boxes to be packed really quickly and cheaply or some manner, some fulfillment aspect that makes it a little bit more fun and easy than, like, getting 10 USPS red boxes.

584
00:25:33,660 --> 00:25:39,420
And, like, for $5, you're sending $15, $5, eight cookie things.

585
00:25:39,420 --> 00:25:50,560
So I just feel like that experience would never be fun unless you have this packaging, maybe an app service behind it to make this type of exchange happen, right?

586
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,980
So, yeah, I'm trying to save the US Postal Service.

587
00:25:52,980 --> 00:25:53,460
No.

588
00:25:54,360 --> 00:25:56,060
But, yeah, that's it.

589
00:25:56,060 --> 00:25:59,480
Cookie exchange app plus fulfillment thing.

590
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:11,480
I love the idea of imagining, like, a robot pick up grandma's famous apple pie and then going to some co-packing facility that just chops it up and sends it to all of her grandkids.

591
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:16,840
Grandma, can you mail a pie to this warehouse every year, please?

592
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:18,780
Only if I see you during Christmas.

593
00:26:18,780 --> 00:26:21,080
Oh, shoot.

594
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:22,980
What if we just made the recipes?

595
00:26:22,980 --> 00:26:23,980
That's a great idea.

596
00:26:23,980 --> 00:26:24,360
I don't know.

597
00:26:24,360 --> 00:26:25,480
That's what you're going.

598
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:30,020
Like, you sent us the recipe and we manufacture it.

599
00:26:30,020 --> 00:26:32,820
Recipe fulfillment as a service.

600
00:26:32,820 --> 00:26:34,460
Grandma's secret recipe.

601
00:26:34,460 --> 00:26:35,240
That's interesting.

602
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,300
But I really like that idea, though.

603
00:26:37,300 --> 00:26:39,180
It stays a secret because it's in their facility.

604
00:26:39,180 --> 00:26:39,800
Yeah, yeah.

605
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:40,680
It's encrypted.

606
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:44,980
256-bit AES encryption.

607
00:26:44,980 --> 00:26:57,080
If you are putting in the recipe, then you have the economies of scale of the business having a million pounds of flour and sugar and all this stuff.

608
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,800
You're just like, yeah, that's fun.

609
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,700
You need, like, how it's made but just bespoke individual.

610
00:27:03,700 --> 00:27:04,420
You know what I'm talking about?

611
00:27:04,420 --> 00:27:08,760
The pies then move down the conveyor belt to the flour station.

612
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:09,380
You know what I mean?

613
00:27:09,380 --> 00:27:09,760
Yeah.

614
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,660
But, like, each one is bespoke and unique and individual for the whatever recipe.

615
00:27:13,660 --> 00:27:20,500
And then you're, yeah, it's combining, like, factory automation with homemade grandma's whatever.

616
00:27:20,500 --> 00:27:22,920
That wouldn't be hard to automate either.

617
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:28,740
Like, a PLC with, there's a finite number of ingredients that can go into a cookie, right?

618
00:27:28,740 --> 00:27:30,640
Or, honestly, you could do it with any recipe.

619
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:31,740
But if we're sticking with cookies.

620
00:27:32,060 --> 00:27:39,020
And then you can publish your recipe or just the title of your thing as your collection, your store, your Shopify store.

621
00:27:39,020 --> 00:27:40,280
Here's all the things.

622
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:44,220
But it's just like when those people have, like, a t-shirt design company.

623
00:27:44,220 --> 00:27:50,540
But really, they're just uploading their graphic that they made in Photoshop and then outsourcing all of the printing and stuff to one of those shops.

624
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,320
Except you have your recipes.

625
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:53,600
You have your storefront.

626
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:54,640
You click buy.

627
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,620
They're doing the fulfillment and taking a chunk of it.

628
00:27:57,620 --> 00:27:59,760
That rules.

629
00:27:59,780 --> 00:28:05,380
If that existed, every single year, I would go online and I would sort by top recipes of this year.

630
00:28:05,380 --> 00:28:08,380
And I would order a variety bin of that every year.

631
00:28:08,380 --> 00:28:15,260
It's like those Hogwarts jelly beans where some of them are super delicious and some of them are just disgusting and gross.

632
00:28:15,260 --> 00:28:17,320
You've got your rating system.

633
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:22,840
You've got your social aspect where it's like, you know, this month is, you know, pie month or whatever.

634
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:23,640
Oh, man.

635
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:24,600
This writes itself.

636
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:28,640
Grandma, I'm going to sassify your cookie recipe.

637
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,980
How do we monetize grandma?

638
00:28:31,980 --> 00:28:35,720
Everybody subscribe to my cookie subscription.

639
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,640
What's it called?

640
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,340
Shoot.

641
00:28:39,340 --> 00:28:39,840
I don't know.

642
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:40,940
Grandma's.

643
00:28:40,940 --> 00:28:43,480
The virtual grandma's house.

644
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:43,800
Yeah.

645
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,300
What about like recipe.real?

646
00:28:45,300 --> 00:28:46,660
Oh, there we go.

647
00:28:46,660 --> 00:28:48,340
Real recipe.

648
00:28:48,340 --> 00:28:50,580
Jordan, are you looking at domains right now?

649
00:28:50,580 --> 00:28:51,080
I was.

650
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:52,180
That's what makes me up, writer.

651
00:28:52,180 --> 00:28:52,760
You got.

652
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,060
Download them before you guys do.

653
00:28:55,060 --> 00:28:55,880
I already bought four.

654
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:56,480
Buy the domain.

655
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:57,260
We're almost there.

656
00:28:57,260 --> 00:28:58,220
That's the hardest part.

657
00:28:58,220 --> 00:28:59,700
Going to buy them before you guys do.

658
00:28:59,700 --> 00:29:00,560
This would be fun.

659
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,760
Can you imagine getting grandma's cookies on tap, dude?

660
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:04,380
Yeah.

661
00:29:04,380 --> 00:29:04,920
Oh, man.

662
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:05,240
I really want some cookies.

663
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:09,900
What is that called when you have those fulfillment companies doing like 90% of the work for you?

664
00:29:09,900 --> 00:29:11,500
They do it with a compounding facility.

665
00:29:11,500 --> 00:29:12,120
There's a name for that.

666
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:12,540
Dropshipping?

667
00:29:12,540 --> 00:29:19,420
It's not dropshipping quite where like you are doing the actual design work and curation, but then you're basically dropshipping everything else.

668
00:29:19,420 --> 00:29:20,760
There's a name for that like industry.

669
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,480
That but food is so interesting.

670
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:27,840
Because when you're first pitching like, oh, I, you know, cookie exchange with a random person, secret Santa style.

671
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,080
It's like, oh, how does that prevent me from getting arsenic cookies, you know?

672
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:31,660
Right.

673
00:29:31,660 --> 00:29:40,580
But if I'm just going and like, if I'm happy, I trust that the actual place is making the food because they only, you know, they're curating the recipe on their end.

674
00:29:40,580 --> 00:29:41,620
They're doing the fulfillment.

675
00:29:41,620 --> 00:29:42,260
Yeah.

676
00:29:42,260 --> 00:29:43,700
And you can get a copy yourself.

677
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,300
You know, like, let's if you don't want to buy cookie, make cookies yourself.

678
00:29:46,300 --> 00:29:50,420
You're like, I'm just going to buy three dozen of my own cookie recipe online and send it to me.

679
00:29:50,420 --> 00:29:50,960
Right.

680
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:55,020
If you wanted to start this today, you don't have to own the factory.

681
00:29:55,020 --> 00:29:58,140
You could make ghost kitchen agreements and do this locally.

682
00:29:58,140 --> 00:30:07,700
Like, yeah, you go through and you are the platform that people on one end are uploading recipes to and on the other end are ordering from their local restaurant, but they don't know it.

683
00:30:07,700 --> 00:30:14,900
And it's getting DoorDash Ubered Eats whatever to their house from what's actually an Applebee's, you know, oven or whatever.

684
00:30:14,900 --> 00:30:15,540
Whoa.

685
00:30:15,540 --> 00:30:20,160
You're like a highly customizable cookie ghost kitchen, like a bakery ghost kitchen instead of a...

686
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:20,200
Yeah.

687
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:20,760
Yeah.

688
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:30,460
I've seen commercials for like shampoos or lotions, like, oh, it's for curly hair versus this and fill out this form and they'll custom blend you a specific formula.

689
00:30:30,460 --> 00:30:35,840
It's like, I've seen that in like the dermatology kind of style of worlds, but never in the cookie world.

690
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:36,560
I like it.

691
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:37,400
Whoa.

692
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:38,920
We could do this for lotions.

693
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:40,520
No.

694
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:48,980
A lot of bakeries and donut shops and bagel stores and stuff run their kitchens really, really hard from like 11 p.m. to 5 a.m.

695
00:30:48,980 --> 00:30:51,520
And then they sit unused a lot of the rest of the day.

696
00:30:51,520 --> 00:31:01,920
If you could like have a couple of contract workers going in and asking your local bakeries, hey, can I use your equipment a couple hours a week to make these recipes and fulfill them out?

697
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:03,380
You could make this happen.

698
00:31:03,380 --> 00:31:04,760
Yeah, I know.

699
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,080
Yeah, that's what you meant the whole time.

700
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,060
That's right.

701
00:31:09,060 --> 00:31:11,240
No, Jordan's like something about recipes.

702
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:12,000
I'm like, oh, shoot.

703
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:12,600
This is it.

704
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,200
This is why we Spitball.

705
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:16,500
This is way better.

706
00:31:16,500 --> 00:31:18,240
It's so much better.

707
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:19,320
That's really fun.

708
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,660
It all started out as an idea from Russ.

709
00:31:22,660 --> 00:31:23,660
Grandma's cookies.

710
00:31:23,660 --> 00:31:24,040
Grandma's cookies.

711
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,940
Grandma, stop peddling your SaaS product to us at Christmas.

712
00:31:27,940 --> 00:31:35,400
Four months subscription to my cookie recipe on whatever cookies.com.

713
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:36,360
Grandma's cookies.

714
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:40,320
You're almost like telling people to like open an Etsy store and stuff, right?

715
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,500
But you're handling the actual creation of the thing.

716
00:31:43,500 --> 00:31:48,360
You'd have to worry a little bit about the quality variants across all the ghost kitchens or whatever.

717
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,660
Like their oven doesn't make it like I did at home.

718
00:31:50,780 --> 00:31:55,840
But if you could get that dialed in, send proofs to the original recipe maker, make sure they're happy with it.

719
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,680
Does this represent your vision for whatever?

720
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,400
You don't even have to be proof, right?

721
00:32:00,620 --> 00:32:04,860
Because you don't even have to be a person who owns all of those ingredients and equipments and stuff.

722
00:32:04,860 --> 00:32:08,160
I don't personally in my life have a stand mixer right now.

723
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:09,400
I just never have.

724
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:13,100
We don't need one enough to warrant buying a KitchenAid mixer.

725
00:32:13,100 --> 00:32:21,020
But if I could go and write up 12 recipes that are interesting to me that do use a KitchenAid mixer and have them all sent to me once, I like those.

726
00:32:21,020 --> 00:32:21,400
Yes.

727
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,420
Now anyone can buy them and I get a cut.

728
00:32:23,420 --> 00:32:24,760
That's so fun.

729
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:25,720
Whoa.

730
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:26,660
What if you just.

731
00:32:26,660 --> 00:32:27,260
I'm hype on this.

732
00:32:27,260 --> 00:32:28,000
What if he like?

733
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:28,600
What if like?

734
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,100
So what if he didn't even bake it?

735
00:32:30,420 --> 00:32:33,060
What if he just made the dough or like the ingredients?

736
00:32:33,060 --> 00:32:39,380
And then when they get it, that way you save on like the manufacturing or the baking process.

737
00:32:39,380 --> 00:32:40,360
And so you get them.

738
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,760
And now grandma's cookies, you just mix these together.

739
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,480
Now it's like the ready, you know, the Betty Crocker.

740
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,280
Add the liquids and you're done.

741
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,180
That's some cookie dough.

742
00:32:49,180 --> 00:32:53,620
And it's just like a mix of flour and sugar of grandma's, right?

743
00:32:53,620 --> 00:32:54,460
It's all.

744
00:32:54,460 --> 00:32:56,660
All of them are just some ratio of that.

745
00:32:56,660 --> 00:32:59,220
Different forms of cinnamon or other things in there.

746
00:32:59,260 --> 00:33:00,180
The butter content.

747
00:33:00,180 --> 00:33:03,100
You know, nobody wants to know how much butter grandma puts in it.

748
00:33:03,100 --> 00:33:05,940
So you got to make sure you deliver that one separate or something, right?

749
00:33:05,940 --> 00:33:07,940
This would not be a hard one to start either.

750
00:33:07,940 --> 00:33:11,740
The entire culinary industry is about like high volume though.

751
00:33:11,740 --> 00:33:16,960
Like it's, it's all about like, we're doing mint chocolate chip ice cream today and for the

752
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:17,600
next month.

753
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:18,980
And then we'll switch over.

754
00:33:18,980 --> 00:33:20,380
That's true.

755
00:33:20,380 --> 00:33:20,980
That's true.

756
00:33:21,220 --> 00:33:27,000
So you just have to really push hard the like 10 featured recipes and say, oh, you might

757
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,380
not get them for two weeks because we're going to do them in batches or whatever.

758
00:33:30,380 --> 00:33:31,280
Like crumble cookie.

759
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,120
How often do you urgently need grandma's cookie?

760
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:37,660
And that's why you ship them frozen cookie dough because then they're not as on demand,

761
00:33:37,660 --> 00:33:39,080
like increase that shelf life.

762
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:39,800
Easier to ship.

763
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:40,240
Sure.

764
00:33:40,380 --> 00:33:46,080
What if you made this into like a world competition, like worldwide competition, right?

765
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:47,600
This is maybe what you're saying, Leo?

766
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:48,920
Like, all right.

767
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,440
You can hone those recipes at home if you have all the equipment and ingredients, but you don't

768
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:53,580
even need to have those.

769
00:33:53,580 --> 00:33:58,080
Use the service yourself to send you the various versions of what you want to try to make and

770
00:33:58,080 --> 00:33:59,040
go with your favorite.

771
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:03,020
You can do top cookie in each state and then the states compete.

772
00:34:03,020 --> 00:34:03,660
And now.

773
00:34:03,660 --> 00:34:04,340
Yes.

774
00:34:04,340 --> 00:34:04,960
Yeah.

775
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,080
You just have a year long.

776
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:06,600
Make it a game.

777
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:06,960
Yeah.

778
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:14,080
Like at the end of the year, you release the best cookie competitor of the year.

779
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,040
And now everybody can buy those cookies, right?

780
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:21,700
You subscribe to a year long subscription of cookie competitions and recipe making.

781
00:34:21,700 --> 00:34:23,780
And now you have the economies of scale, right?

782
00:34:23,780 --> 00:34:24,840
I want this now.

783
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:25,260
The best.

784
00:34:25,260 --> 00:34:25,780
Quite bad.

785
00:34:25,780 --> 00:34:29,420
Chocolate chip cookie as, you know, nationwide.

786
00:34:29,420 --> 00:34:34,440
I've been raving to my wife about the chocolate chip cookies that I make and I haven't made

787
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:35,560
them in the past two years.

788
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,560
We've been married for a year and a half.

789
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:38,940
She's never tasted these things.

790
00:34:38,940 --> 00:34:44,520
If you could upload that recipe and click buy now and they'd be there in a couple of days.

791
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:44,920
There you go, honey.

792
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:45,600
Would you still do it?

793
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:45,820
Yeah.

794
00:34:45,820 --> 00:34:47,780
Got a lot to live up to then, Jordan.

795
00:34:47,780 --> 00:34:48,800
Yeah.

796
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:54,160
There's a chance that like an industrial kitchen would be able to do your recipe better justice

797
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,220
than your home equipment and ingredients would.

798
00:34:56,220 --> 00:35:01,700
Like my, I have a weird ingredient that I normally wouldn't have access to or my oven variance

799
00:35:01,700 --> 00:35:05,480
and temperature a little bit too much or whatever it is, you know, it might be better.

800
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:06,660
Really true.

801
00:35:06,660 --> 00:35:07,340
At least more consistent.

802
00:35:07,340 --> 00:35:07,720
Yeah.

803
00:35:07,720 --> 00:35:10,180
Because they do this for like pizza machines.

804
00:35:10,180 --> 00:35:15,680
Like they do that one machine dough goes in, toppings go in, and then you can get a pepperoni

805
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,120
or a pineapple and ham and yeah, all those different stuff.

806
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,460
And if that cookie wins, like you don't have, nobody has to know the recipe.

807
00:35:21,460 --> 00:35:23,780
Now it's like an asset on your website, right?

808
00:35:23,780 --> 00:35:24,440
Yes.

809
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,420
The 2022 winner, the 2023 winner, right?

810
00:35:27,420 --> 00:35:28,740
Gamifying it.

811
00:35:28,740 --> 00:35:30,260
How do we get competitors?

812
00:35:30,260 --> 00:35:33,560
I feel actually we just, I'm sure there's a lot of people that want to compete.

813
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,540
It's so easy for the store owner.

814
00:35:35,540 --> 00:35:39,360
They just have to type in on a computer what they want their cookie to look like and then

815
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:40,300
we make it for them.

816
00:35:40,300 --> 00:35:42,560
Like the low barrier entry is a plus.

817
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,420
And if you really are worried about it, then you generate a bunch of fake grandmas and

818
00:35:46,420 --> 00:35:49,040
you make some common recipes for Betty Crocker and stuff.

819
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:53,500
And you like have those that be the top cookie that someone has to try to beat, but you don't

820
00:35:53,500 --> 00:35:58,180
tell anyone and you kind of seed your own platform with, you know, fake recipes or popular recipes

821
00:35:58,180 --> 00:35:59,240
until you get going.

822
00:35:59,240 --> 00:35:59,800
Boom.

823
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:06,960
Dude, we go to the, you know, those like local community apple pie county fair kind of style.

824
00:36:07,220 --> 00:36:12,020
We just reach out to all of those people and say, Hey, this is, you want to make a lot of

825
00:36:12,020 --> 00:36:13,320
money with your apple pie.

826
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:18,740
We have a competition fantasy pie off pie ball.

827
00:36:18,740 --> 00:36:19,580
All right.

828
00:36:19,580 --> 00:36:21,980
I don't know if that works.

829
00:36:21,980 --> 00:36:27,700
And, uh, yeah, you, we're going to take your apple pie recipe, mass produce it for a hundred

830
00:36:27,700 --> 00:36:33,280
thousand people that are going to, you know, test, you know, and taste your apple pie.

831
00:36:33,500 --> 00:36:38,220
And now you have like 30 different, like 15 slices out there for a hundred thousand

832
00:36:38,220 --> 00:36:38,640
people.

833
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:39,480
Like that would be.

834
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:40,200
Oh my God.

835
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:40,540
Little.

836
00:36:40,540 --> 00:36:41,280
Set your rules.

837
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:41,780
Crazy.

838
00:36:41,780 --> 00:36:42,180
Awesome.

839
00:36:42,180 --> 00:36:46,520
Take a picture of that pie and send us to GPT and they'll tell you the ingredients already.

840
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:50,060
Reverse engineer this pie.

841
00:36:50,060 --> 00:36:53,300
We'll save that one for next week.

842
00:36:53,300 --> 00:36:56,680
Then you get acquired by some like giant cookie company.

843
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:57,360
Look out.

844
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:58,320
Keebler's coming for you.

845
00:36:58,320 --> 00:36:59,400
The big dough boy.

846
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:07,340
Oh, Leo, what you got this week?

847
00:37:07,340 --> 00:37:08,240
All right.

848
00:37:08,240 --> 00:37:09,600
I got a pretty simple problem.

849
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:15,360
Uh, very similar to the library books, my bookshelf thing that I want to make, but my

850
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:20,120
closet is filled with shirts and I know that I have too many sweatshirts and t-shirts and

851
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:20,580
dress shirts.

852
00:37:20,580 --> 00:37:24,940
And I never know which ones to get rid of because I'm not very aware of wardrobe and

853
00:37:24,940 --> 00:37:30,220
fashion and clothing, but I know that I don't wear some very often just because I back into

854
00:37:30,220 --> 00:37:31,680
liking certain ones more than others.

855
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:36,860
But if I just look at everything at once, I don't know which ones to actually keep or how

856
00:37:36,860 --> 00:37:37,560
often I wear them.

857
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,180
I want to inventory my closet.

858
00:37:40,420 --> 00:37:47,220
I want to have some sort of tag or barcode or stamp or something hidden on the inside

859
00:37:47,220 --> 00:37:48,880
hem of every shirt that I own.

860
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:54,180
And every time I pull it out, I scan it or I tap it or I do something to it so that I have

861
00:37:54,180 --> 00:37:56,800
a frequency worn graph.

862
00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:02,160
And then I can say, what are the top 20 things that I haven't worn in the last year?

863
00:38:02,300 --> 00:38:05,100
Or what shirts do I need to back off on?

864
00:38:05,100 --> 00:38:08,420
Hey, buddy, you wore that shirt eight times in the last two weeks.

865
00:38:08,420 --> 00:38:09,060
Are you sure?

866
00:38:09,060 --> 00:38:13,340
Because I just, I really don't have an eye for like paying attention to this.

867
00:38:13,340 --> 00:38:17,920
I always make my, what am I going to wear today decision with no thought at the very last

868
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,580
second as I've already stepped out of the shower and I'm looking at stuff.

869
00:38:20,580 --> 00:38:22,460
I reach for whatever feels right.

870
00:38:22,460 --> 00:38:25,120
And I'm not a fashion guy, like I said.

871
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:30,360
So yeah, I need a device to help me be more aware of what things go well together and what

872
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:34,400
things I don't like and wear and why don't I like them and draw that to my attention.

873
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:38,860
So what are unintrusive, I always rip the tags out of every t-shirt I own.

874
00:38:38,860 --> 00:38:41,800
What are unintrusive ways that I can.

875
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:42,540
You're not making this easy, Leo.

876
00:38:42,540 --> 00:38:43,160
Yeah, I know.

877
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:44,960
How do I hide this like tracking?

878
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,140
Is it something printed on the inside?

879
00:38:47,140 --> 00:38:52,120
Maybe it's like, like a ink tattoo sort of thing that gets put on the inside of the sleeve

880
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:52,700
or something.

881
00:38:52,700 --> 00:38:58,380
Or maybe it's, I don't know, on the bottom of the, the hem of the waistline of the shirt

882
00:38:58,380 --> 00:38:59,440
and pant or something.

883
00:38:59,660 --> 00:39:03,720
Gut Reaction was an NFC tag, like sewed into it somewhere.

884
00:39:03,720 --> 00:39:05,640
But how thin can those get?

885
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:06,800
They make those for laundromats.

886
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,880
They can just kind of sew them in or iron them on.

887
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:09,520
Okay.

888
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:10,460
Iron on.

889
00:39:10,460 --> 00:39:10,720
Really?

890
00:39:10,720 --> 00:39:11,980
Iron on would be perfect.

891
00:39:11,980 --> 00:39:13,340
I would totally iron them all on.

892
00:39:13,340 --> 00:39:13,700
Yeah.

893
00:39:13,700 --> 00:39:15,180
And then build an inventory system.

894
00:39:15,180 --> 00:39:19,420
Come in with your RFID scanner just like beeping all around you.

895
00:39:19,420 --> 00:39:20,140
Yeah, right.

896
00:39:20,140 --> 00:39:22,940
Just get a megawatt scanner just on your door.

897
00:39:22,940 --> 00:39:24,660
You don't even have to like hold it up to it.

898
00:39:24,660 --> 00:39:25,760
It'll just, it just goes.

899
00:39:26,240 --> 00:39:27,280
Sir, I'm the TSA.

900
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:28,600
Do you have any metal objects on you?

901
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:32,080
Everything I own is an NFC tag.

902
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:33,000
Take off your shirt.

903
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,400
I need to strip down naked.

904
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:36,620
It's on my underwear officer.

905
00:39:36,620 --> 00:39:38,360
Yeah, right.

906
00:39:40,100 --> 00:39:42,920
You could probably just do it with a camera system too, honestly.

907
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:46,840
Just like, hey, stand in this one spot every day when you're fully dressed and it just takes

908
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:47,560
a quick snapshot.

909
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:51,060
It would be able to recognize if you wore that shirt how many times in a row.

910
00:39:51,060 --> 00:39:51,940
It's so true.

911
00:39:51,940 --> 00:39:56,960
I wonder if it knows the difference between my three or four like plain white or plain black

912
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:57,960
tees though.

913
00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:59,100
Oh, I see.

914
00:39:59,100 --> 00:39:59,660
Yeah.

915
00:39:59,660 --> 00:40:02,560
I have white t-shirts that are way more worn than the other ones.

916
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:03,740
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

917
00:40:03,740 --> 00:40:04,820
Or that'd be great.

918
00:40:04,820 --> 00:40:10,660
I am certain I have some shirts in there that are high school or like very, very, very, very

919
00:40:10,660 --> 00:40:14,780
old that I really should be told like, hey, dummy, that's an inside shirt.

920
00:40:14,780 --> 00:40:16,780
That's an inside shirt.

921
00:40:16,780 --> 00:40:18,000
Don't go offside with that one.

922
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:19,000
I know exactly.

923
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:20,280
Everybody has those, right?

924
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,400
Don't wear this one in public.

925
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:23,120
Right.

926
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,020
I think I'm wearing two of those shirts right now.

927
00:40:25,020 --> 00:40:25,480
Yeah.

928
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,940
Paint a room with that shirt, you know?

929
00:40:28,660 --> 00:40:29,060
Exactly.

930
00:40:29,060 --> 00:40:30,600
That one's going to the paint pile.

931
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:35,620
I am totally, it's, I don't, I don't know what's wrong with my brain where I'm totally

932
00:40:35,620 --> 00:40:40,160
comfortable grabbing every shirt and undershirt and pair of pants and tapping it to a reader

933
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:41,180
and then putting it on.

934
00:40:41,180 --> 00:40:44,840
But I cannot for the life of me remember like, have I worn this recently?

935
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:46,380
Is this one that I actually like?

936
00:40:46,380 --> 00:40:47,680
Do these look good together?

937
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:48,540
You know?

938
00:40:48,540 --> 00:40:51,400
I really want a scanner in front of the washing machine too.

939
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:55,400
I don't know if I would use this, but to have that data where I knew how many times

940
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,120
I've washed this one or worn it since then going through.

941
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:03,240
This brand tends to last longer than the other ones or all this data.

942
00:41:03,240 --> 00:41:04,100
It'd be so good.

943
00:41:04,100 --> 00:41:04,780
Yeah.

944
00:41:04,780 --> 00:41:05,360
Whoa.

945
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,040
I didn't think about putting it in the washing machine.

946
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:13,640
That'd be, and then like LG or Samsung would sell, you know, those little like things, put

947
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:14,760
it in every one of your shirts.

948
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:15,120
Right.

949
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:19,280
So now it's like, oh, this is, you know, part of your smart washing machine.

950
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:23,040
You know, you throw it, you don't have to, you know, LG and Samsung will buy this.

951
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:23,300
Right.

952
00:41:23,300 --> 00:41:28,340
But first you create an attachment that you put in your dryer and as it's tumbling scans

953
00:41:28,340 --> 00:41:31,280
all the items in there, but you got to buy those little tags.

954
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:36,080
And now you're like, you get your plotted chart and graph, but that's just for wear and tear.

955
00:41:36,140 --> 00:41:43,920
It doesn't like show you and your sexy man suit, Leo, you know, an inventory of that.

956
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:44,200
Right.

957
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:44,620
So.

958
00:41:44,620 --> 00:41:46,480
And then it modifies the wash cycle.

959
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,060
Like, oh, this is a delicate or, oh, these are jeans.

960
00:41:49,060 --> 00:41:49,860
Whoa.

961
00:41:50,240 --> 00:41:55,120
Almost all of our clothes have that indecipherable hieroglyphic set of tags.

962
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,920
That's like, this is a square with an X through it.

963
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,080
And this is three triangles and a 30.

964
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:01,580
What the hell does that mean?

965
00:42:01,580 --> 00:42:05,280
Or, you know, like we should turn that into something that the washing machine can read

966
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:06,100
for sure.

967
00:42:06,100 --> 00:42:10,440
It just spins on its own a couple of times ahead of time and then figures out what's in

968
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:11,840
there and then does the cycle.

969
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:12,680
Yes.

970
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:13,360
Damn.

971
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:13,880
Damn.

972
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:18,600
So I guess the minimum product here, if I wanted to build this totally homemade would be some

973
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:22,340
kind of screen printing that puts a QR code hidden on everything I own.

974
00:42:22,340 --> 00:42:23,080
A QR code?

975
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:24,480
Why not?

976
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:25,500
It would work.

977
00:42:25,500 --> 00:42:26,980
Like a serial number or something.

978
00:42:26,980 --> 00:42:29,240
Or like, I see NFTs tag.

979
00:42:29,240 --> 00:42:32,640
NFC tags are fun, but they'd be convenient to scan in.

980
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,940
But the cost per is a little higher.

981
00:42:35,940 --> 00:42:36,780
What?

982
00:42:36,780 --> 00:42:37,620
What do you have?

983
00:42:37,620 --> 00:42:42,580
It just reminded me of my next, what was going to be my next intramural idea.

984
00:42:42,580 --> 00:42:47,560
It was just a terrible one where I wanted socks that would match themselves in the washing,

985
00:42:47,720 --> 00:42:48,300
in the dryer.

986
00:42:48,300 --> 00:42:53,700
And I was trying to figure out like, can I take like different combinations of magnets

987
00:42:53,700 --> 00:42:57,760
and like get like a ring of magnets or something and sew them into the sock, but they're super

988
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:59,300
thin, but they're in different.

989
00:42:59,300 --> 00:43:03,460
It's like North, North, South, North, South that matches with South, South, North, South,

990
00:43:03,460 --> 00:43:03,780
North.

991
00:43:03,780 --> 00:43:07,340
So those, only those two socks would stick together in the dryer.

992
00:43:07,340 --> 00:43:12,020
And then you pull the socks out of the dryer and they're just all along the rim of the whole

993
00:43:12,020 --> 00:43:12,440
dryer.

994
00:43:14,740 --> 00:43:16,300
They've stuck to the drum.

995
00:43:16,300 --> 00:43:19,220
We didn't think this through.

996
00:43:19,220 --> 00:43:20,200
But they're sopping wet.

997
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:21,080
We didn't believe them drum.

998
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,440
I was trying to think, is there some way it could do like magnets in order for it to scan

999
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:25,200
it as it goes by?

1000
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:25,500
Right.

1001
00:43:25,500 --> 00:43:25,900
No.

1002
00:43:25,900 --> 00:43:26,600
No.

1003
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:30,040
Or something like that where it's somehow attracted to itself only.

1004
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:34,180
Leo, I think you could get like, there's a trendy like thing where you can put a leather

1005
00:43:34,180 --> 00:43:35,880
patch, like a tiny little leather.

1006
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:40,900
They have these like little leather patches that you can, that I see on certain hoodies.

1007
00:43:40,900 --> 00:43:42,060
I got one on this shirt.

1008
00:43:42,060 --> 00:43:42,460
Hey.

1009
00:43:42,460 --> 00:43:42,800
Yes.

1010
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:43,040
Boom.

1011
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:44,480
It's like a random thing on the outside.

1012
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,100
You see, you just take that, apply it.

1013
00:43:47,100 --> 00:43:48,740
Now you got your brand logo on it.

1014
00:43:48,740 --> 00:43:50,820
You scan it every time.

1015
00:43:50,820 --> 00:43:52,100
And people are like, oh, that guy's cool.

1016
00:43:52,100 --> 00:43:56,260
I don't know how some people have the stamp that's like from the library of Leo Herzog,

1017
00:43:56,260 --> 00:43:57,980
but from the wardrobe.

1018
00:43:57,980 --> 00:44:00,560
From the, yes.

1019
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:01,600
Oh, yikes.

1020
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:03,760
You're like putting a wax seal on each shirt.

1021
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:04,520
That's funny.

1022
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,200
It's horrible in the dryer, but.

1023
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:09,840
It looks cool and chic from afar, but then you read it and you're like, wow.

1024
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:10,340
Okay.

1025
00:44:10,340 --> 00:44:10,960
Right.

1026
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,680
You need something really, really, really, really, really durable.

1027
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,520
QR code ink screen printed is fine.

1028
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,120
NFC tags, maybe.

1029
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:19,320
Waterproof, sure.

1030
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:19,940
What else?

1031
00:44:19,940 --> 00:44:20,560
I don't know.

1032
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,840
Even if it's not durable, you just replace the tag, right?

1033
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:24,120
Yeah, I suppose.

1034
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:30,460
I think like Stitch Fix or one of these other like clothing subscription companies would send

1035
00:44:30,460 --> 00:44:34,180
this to everybody for free in their wardrobe, right?

1036
00:44:34,180 --> 00:44:38,340
And now they can measure, oh, Leo really loves that red pattern shirt.

1037
00:44:38,340 --> 00:44:44,400
I'm going to send him an email with three similar shirts like that to match his style and look,

1038
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:44,680
right?

1039
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:48,120
And you're using it as like, oh, I just want to figure out.

1040
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:49,540
Amazon to hone your ads.

1041
00:44:49,540 --> 00:44:50,340
Boom.

1042
00:44:50,740 --> 00:44:51,520
Like, sure.

1043
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:52,380
Send me ads.

1044
00:44:52,380 --> 00:44:56,520
If I give you all this data about my clothing, like there are certain times when I want ads

1045
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:57,480
and this is the time, right?

1046
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:58,500
Right.

1047
00:44:58,500 --> 00:45:00,000
You're wearing this one a lot.

1048
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:00,960
Yes, absolutely.

1049
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,120
Here's three other styles, right?

1050
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:07,640
You could loop Ditto in on it being like, hey, there's a shirt in your closet that you

1051
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:08,780
haven't touched in two years.

1052
00:45:08,780 --> 00:45:09,800
Like donate it.

1053
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:10,300
Whoa.

1054
00:45:10,300 --> 00:45:12,640
Your local Salvation Army is in Goodwills.

1055
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:13,040
Yeah.

1056
00:45:13,240 --> 00:45:13,740
Oh, yeah.

1057
00:45:13,740 --> 00:45:17,980
There's also 17 other shirts just like the one you really love at Ditto right now that

1058
00:45:17,980 --> 00:45:18,740
you should go by.

1059
00:45:18,740 --> 00:45:20,900
Ditto is a local thrift shop.

1060
00:45:20,900 --> 00:45:21,720
Yeah, man.

1061
00:45:21,720 --> 00:45:23,320
I think it would be cool.

1062
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,440
I have so many clothes in my closet right now.

1063
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:26,560
I also lost.

1064
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:27,520
So this is really epic.

1065
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:32,500
I lost a shirt for three years and it was in a quarter zip.

1066
00:45:32,500 --> 00:45:37,360
I had taken off my quarter zip and this collared shirt and I threw it in the back of the closet.

1067
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,780
And every time I look at the quarter zip, I have the green side out instead of the red

1068
00:45:40,780 --> 00:45:41,160
side.

1069
00:45:41,300 --> 00:45:42,740
And so I never wore it.

1070
00:45:42,740 --> 00:45:47,640
And then literally a week before Christmas, I'm like, oh my God, I thought I lost this

1071
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:48,620
shirt years ago.

1072
00:45:48,620 --> 00:45:50,280
It was like my favorite shirt.

1073
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,020
And so I'm like, yes, found it.

1074
00:45:53,020 --> 00:45:58,640
But if only I'd scanned it in my QR code drobe, you know, or something, whatever you name it,

1075
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:00,060
Leo, I would have known.

1076
00:46:00,060 --> 00:46:00,480
All right.

1077
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,120
So you guys are real friends.

1078
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:08,240
Are you, am I narrow casting to just me or is this, is there anything here that someone

1079
00:46:08,240 --> 00:46:08,580
would want?

1080
00:46:08,580 --> 00:46:08,780
Okay.

1081
00:46:08,780 --> 00:46:10,540
You think that this is something that somebody else would want?

1082
00:46:10,540 --> 00:46:11,180
I would absolutely love the data.

1083
00:46:11,180 --> 00:46:16,180
I would absolutely love the data, but I'm also a very lazy son of a bitch and I would

1084
00:46:16,180 --> 00:46:18,340
not scan my clothes if I put them on.

1085
00:46:18,340 --> 00:46:21,460
I would for a while, but after like the second week, I would stop doing that.

1086
00:46:21,460 --> 00:46:24,620
Would you tear apart your closet and barcode them all?

1087
00:46:24,620 --> 00:46:30,000
My motivation would last like that first week and I would do it all and go through and be

1088
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:30,920
like this great system.

1089
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:34,420
And then it would peter out, which is why I'm still thinking the camera or something that's

1090
00:46:34,420 --> 00:46:37,220
passive in the background that just does it and collects it.

1091
00:46:37,220 --> 00:46:39,660
Just put a camera in the bathroom when you're getting dressed.

1092
00:46:39,780 --> 00:46:40,260
No problem.

1093
00:46:40,260 --> 00:46:41,960
Oh, it could be the mirror, right?

1094
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:43,160
It could be your mirror.

1095
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:46,520
Oh, as long as you could just stand in front of your mirror every day.

1096
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,300
Then press the button to open the shutter.

1097
00:46:48,300 --> 00:46:52,140
We're going to be very good about privacy consciousness in the bathroom.

1098
00:46:52,140 --> 00:46:52,860
Hey everyone.

1099
00:46:52,860 --> 00:46:54,940
We have a cool new bathroom camera technology.

1100
00:46:54,940 --> 00:46:56,140
We're excited to sell you.

1101
00:46:56,140 --> 00:46:56,400
Yeah.

1102
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,640
Buy Amazon three days later.

1103
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:04,700
Maybe it's just recency bias for me because I'm sitting in our closet currently.

1104
00:47:04,700 --> 00:47:07,260
That's right.

1105
00:47:07,260 --> 00:47:12,200
My wife has a bunch of clothes and they're all folded up, but they're stacked or they're in

1106
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,300
like, how can she know what she has?

1107
00:47:14,300 --> 00:47:14,960
Yeah.

1108
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:15,500
Yeah.

1109
00:47:15,500 --> 00:47:16,540
That's how I am.

1110
00:47:16,540 --> 00:47:21,780
The t-shirt that is most likely to be worn is in the top two or three of the five files.

1111
00:47:21,780 --> 00:47:23,660
Which is the one that you just wore last week.

1112
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:24,520
Exactly.

1113
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:28,720
And once in a while when I'm really ambitious, I flip it upside down or shuffle it a little

1114
00:47:28,720 --> 00:47:28,920
bit.

1115
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:29,460
That's clever.

1116
00:47:29,460 --> 00:47:32,780
You got to adopt the FIFO method.

1117
00:47:32,780 --> 00:47:33,880
First in, first out.

1118
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:34,620
Yeah.

1119
00:47:34,620 --> 00:47:36,660
I need to like put them on the bottom or something.

1120
00:47:36,660 --> 00:47:37,300
Yeah, for sure.

1121
00:47:37,300 --> 00:47:37,960
Man.

1122
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,720
No, I think this would, I think the mirror, maybe that's what it is.

1123
00:47:40,720 --> 00:47:40,940
Sure.

1124
00:47:40,940 --> 00:47:45,200
You have like issues with like the same shirt, you know, but like.

1125
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:45,720
I love it.

1126
00:47:45,720 --> 00:47:46,620
Even that's useful.

1127
00:47:46,620 --> 00:47:49,120
Like, hey, you wear plain white shirts a lot, bud.

1128
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:50,640
Cool it.

1129
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:52,140
Right.

1130
00:47:52,300 --> 00:47:54,820
But like, you know, people take selfies in the mirror all the time.

1131
00:47:54,820 --> 00:47:55,020
Right.

1132
00:47:55,020 --> 00:47:59,360
So it's kind of like you could even like see maybe not inventory, but like, what do you

1133
00:47:59,360 --> 00:47:59,960
want to wear today?

1134
00:47:59,960 --> 00:48:01,280
And it just shuffles clothes.

1135
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:06,960
And knowing that you have it in the closet, it would be nice to know if they were dirty or

1136
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:07,320
not.

1137
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:07,620
Right.

1138
00:48:07,620 --> 00:48:11,740
So like, I just don't want to think when I open my closet because I haven't had my coffee

1139
00:48:11,740 --> 00:48:11,920
yet.

1140
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,720
Let's say I just want to know there's clean clothes.

1141
00:48:14,720 --> 00:48:15,400
Which one?

1142
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:16,040
Boom.

1143
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:20,720
If I could look at a dashboard on my phone and see you have a 38% left on the clean.

1144
00:48:20,720 --> 00:48:21,820
It's starting to get close.

1145
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:23,320
Do a couple laundry loads, dummy.

1146
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,680
That's pretty enticing to a lazy SOC.

1147
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:26,520
That is really cool.

1148
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,620
It's like a gas tank.

1149
00:48:29,620 --> 00:48:33,540
Hey, your underwear drawer is getting pretty empty there, bud.

1150
00:48:33,540 --> 00:48:36,340
You change your underwear every day, right?

1151
00:48:36,340 --> 00:48:36,820
This week?

1152
00:48:36,820 --> 00:48:37,200
You know?

1153
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:38,920
Just ask the question.

1154
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:40,620
My trouble is the opposite.

1155
00:48:40,620 --> 00:48:42,620
I over-launder.

1156
00:48:42,980 --> 00:48:46,780
I throw stuff into the laundry pile when it probably doesn't need to be cleaned yet and

1157
00:48:46,780 --> 00:48:48,240
so my clothes don't last as long.

1158
00:48:48,240 --> 00:48:52,260
But I feel better about like, every day is a brand new clean start, you know?

1159
00:48:52,260 --> 00:48:57,460
So that's especially why I have this problem is being able to track all that stuff is like,

1160
00:48:57,460 --> 00:49:01,740
wow, I have used those shirts too much and I need to switch it out for those ones that I

1161
00:49:01,740 --> 00:49:02,400
also like.

1162
00:49:02,460 --> 00:49:05,380
I just don't happen to see right in front of me or whatever, you know?

1163
00:49:05,380 --> 00:49:10,840
I'm the opposite of that, but it still lends me to the same problem because I wore these

1164
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,320
jeans yesterday and I wore them today.

1165
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:14,220
I'm going to tomorrow.

1166
00:49:14,220 --> 00:49:18,280
And then they sit in my too clean to be washed pile.

1167
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,640
It's like, by the end of the month, I've worn them 12 times.

1168
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:25,720
And then you do like a whole month's worth of laundry because you're just like, boom, right?

1169
00:49:25,720 --> 00:49:28,780
You've got a couple of other pairs of jeans that are nice, but you just don't happen to

1170
00:49:28,780 --> 00:49:31,320
wear them because they're not in the like active pile or whatever.

1171
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:35,500
I need some notification to be like, hey, you just wore those pants six times already.

1172
00:49:35,500 --> 00:49:36,340
Go wash them.

1173
00:49:36,340 --> 00:49:37,660
Sure.

1174
00:49:37,660 --> 00:49:40,160
And if I'm tapping out my boom, boom, boom.

1175
00:49:40,240 --> 00:49:40,520
Okay.

1176
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:44,020
I'm my reader or taking my picture or whatever, and it's keeping track of that, then that's

1177
00:49:44,020 --> 00:49:44,600
pretty doable.

1178
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:48,640
It's the, how do you get the data in problem that I haven't quite cracked yet.

1179
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:57,440
So I did a project with some like warehousing with RFID tags and then we could scan 56 RFID

1180
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:02,480
tags in a giant four foot by four foot by eight foot pallet, just like pass it right through

1181
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,360
a loading bay door.

1182
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,620
You need a lot of energy for that.

1183
00:50:06,620 --> 00:50:08,300
That was a beautiful reader.

1184
00:50:08,300 --> 00:50:09,000
I'll say that.

1185
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:10,020
That's cool.

1186
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:11,040
A couple hundred bucks.

1187
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:14,880
So if I'm just walking through my bathroom door frame on the way out to start my day

1188
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:16,740
and it's like, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

1189
00:50:16,740 --> 00:50:17,660
Got those five things.

1190
00:50:17,660 --> 00:50:21,220
My fillings are like humming when I'm going to my bathroom, you know?

1191
00:50:21,220 --> 00:50:22,820
Yeah.

1192
00:50:22,820 --> 00:50:24,500
Well, it'd be like the library books, right?

1193
00:50:24,500 --> 00:50:28,840
Those library book things, you know, you just have one, install one of those in your house.

1194
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:30,220
I don't know what those things cost.

1195
00:50:30,220 --> 00:50:35,340
Or the skaters at the grocery store, like those can check for the metal thing.

1196
00:50:35,340 --> 00:50:35,760
Eggs.

1197
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,820
Dude, I think, but I think the data is so valuable.

1198
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:44,800
Like, do you know how many clothing companies would just pay out the ass for that?

1199
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:45,760
I don't know what else to say.

1200
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,020
Like, that would be amazing data.

1201
00:50:48,020 --> 00:50:52,800
You would basically give this out for free if you could figure out how to capture this data.

1202
00:50:53,220 --> 00:50:55,600
And I would take it for free if it meant better ads.

1203
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:58,100
Like you said, like, no ads is great.

1204
00:50:58,100 --> 00:51:00,760
If I have to have ads, useful ads are the next best thing.

1205
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:07,380
And if it's suddenly showing me, wow, it looks like that brand of sock that normally is expensive is having a 20% off sale.

1206
00:51:07,380 --> 00:51:08,440
You like those socks.

1207
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:09,280
That is useful.

1208
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:13,980
Getting that, yeah, to improve my advertising experience would be nice.

1209
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:19,820
Man, I feel like a lot of our app ideas are like, if only we had a mother that could just take care of us.

1210
00:51:19,820 --> 00:51:24,260
Our poor wives.

1211
00:51:24,260 --> 00:51:25,780
Leo, you are that short again.

1212
00:51:25,780 --> 00:51:27,400
I mean, you know.

1213
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:28,480
Oh, no.

1214
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:29,380
Let me do your laundry.

1215
00:51:29,380 --> 00:51:30,400
It's taken a while.

1216
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:31,800
You know, it's just.

1217
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:33,200
We need more women on this show.

1218
00:51:34,720 --> 00:51:35,620
Robo mom.

1219
00:51:35,620 --> 00:51:36,860
Only someone took care of you.

1220
00:51:36,860 --> 00:51:38,080
The clothes edition.

1221
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:41,280
Can't my robot mommy set out my outfit in the morning?

1222
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:42,800
I'm so confused.

1223
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:44,480
I have all these shirts.

1224
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:47,860
You privileged child.

1225
00:51:47,860 --> 00:51:49,700
Mom, I need new shirts.

1226
00:51:49,700 --> 00:51:50,580
No, you don't.

1227
00:51:50,580 --> 00:51:53,020
You just don't wear the ones that I bought you.

1228
00:51:53,020 --> 00:51:55,260
Thanks, Robo mom.

1229
00:51:55,260 --> 00:52:02,580
Well, dear listener, if you are listening to us while doing laundry, think about where you'd put that QR code on your shirt.

1230
00:52:02,580 --> 00:52:05,380
And shoot us an email if you have any idea about that.

1231
00:52:05,380 --> 00:52:07,160
We are podcast@spitball.show.

1232
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,260
Jordan, it's been so awesome having you.

1233
00:52:09,260 --> 00:52:11,000
Thank you so much for being on the show today, man.

1234
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:11,900
My pleasure.

1235
00:52:11,900 --> 00:52:12,520
Thanks, guys.

1236
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:15,040
Like I said, our website is Spitball.show.

1237
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:18,440
There you can find YouTube channel, all of our social media, all that stuff.

1238
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We are podcast@spitball.show.

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Email us feedback, ideas, etc.

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That's also how you can follow us on the Fediverse, such as Mastodon.

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We are podcast@spitball.show.

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Or on bluesky at Spitball.show.

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Our subreddit is r slash spitballshow.

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Our intro/outro music is Swingers by Bonkers Beat Club.

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Please, like I've said every episode, if you have a minute, that one friend is always saying,

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man, I wear the same outfit every single day.

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Or maybe you just noticed they wear the same outfit every single day.

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Send them an episode.

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We think that they are our people.

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And if you wouldn't mind, leave us a review on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Pocket Cast, Overcast,

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whatever you listen to us on.

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That would be the best way for people to find out about the show.

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New episode is coming out in two weeks.

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We will see you then.