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I'm Scott. I'm Russell. And I'm Leo. This is Spitball.

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Welcome to Spitball, where three future forecasters and a guest empty our heads of startup and tech

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product ideas that we have stuck up in there so you can all have them for free. Anything that we

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say is yours to keep. And Russell, I believe you brought our guest this week.

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I did. I brought Bryce Kaiser, entrepreneur extraordinaire of West Michigan. He's, I guess,

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starting a VC startup, maybe. But also just the successful entrepreneur that I know,

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having sold a company. Yeah, West Michigan, shout out to Bryce, the entrepreneur.

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So way overqualified for us.

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Not just qualified enough. That's right.

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He's, yeah. So thank you, Bryce, for joining.

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Welcome.

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Hey, thanks for having me. I am so excited to be here. Longtime listener of the show. And

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it is a privilege to be able to pitch ideas here today. I'm so excited.

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We're so happy to have you. This is gonna be so much fun.

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Wait, are we all pitching to Bryce today?

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Are you gonna fund one more ideas?

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Bryce, please. Is my idea good? You're the only one who can tell me.

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To get us started this week, I want to, in the spirit of entrepreneurship and inventions, I want to get us going on with a little bit of a warm up game that I'm gonna call.

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But wait, there's more. I want to pitch you guys.

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I want to tell you guys about a famous as-seen-on-screen TV product from back in the 80s, 90s, 2000s here.

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And you, all you have to do is tell me if they still exist today. Can you buy one or not?

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So if I said, OxyClean, it's got the power of oxygen. Billy Mays here. Yes, you can still buy that at Costco, right?

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So, as always, we got to start with our guest, Bryce, the Clapper.

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Introduced in 1985, a sound-activated device. You plug it in. It lets you turn outlets on or off with a clap.

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Or, as I recall, a dog bark or a loud thunderclap would also turn your light on or whatever.

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Clap on, clap off. The Clapper. Does it still exist today? Can you buy one?

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I absolutely believe that it still exists, and I also believe they have extended the product line to have more products recently.

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Have you purchased a Clapper recently?

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I've browsed. I have browsed. I haven't committed.

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Same. You can still buy the Clapper. In the age of smart outlets and stuff, I guess it's still open.

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Yeah, for real, the IoT.

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Yeah. Grandma doesn't want to do your Samsung Galaxy smart home.

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She wants to clap.

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We just turned on lights to, like, millions of listeners right now.

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You got to bleep that out, Leo.

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Yeah, right.

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No clapping allowed.

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Scott, do you remember the Flowbee?

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The Flowbee was introduced in 1988.

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It's a device that goes on the end of your vacuum, and it was an unusual device that let you vacuum and cut your hair, and it sucked up your hair as you went.

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It was kind of a famous, like, half-meme, half-oh-my-gosh-this-is-the-best-idea-in-the-world sort of thing.

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Introduced in 1988.

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The clean-as-you-go haircutting home service.

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But does it still exist today?

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I'm going to say no, but there's probably a million STL 3D print versions of it out there.

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The Flowbee does not exist anymore.

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It was pretty ridiculed at the time, so no.

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It is still ridiculed today.

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I don't think you can buy the Flowbee, but there's probably some knockoff home 3D printed versions out there somewhere that you could scalp yourself with.

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I do have a dog version of it.

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I actually use it with my pup.

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That makes sense.

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Are they afraid of it?

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Do they freak out from the vacuum noise?

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No, not at all.

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It's not like the full Flowbee where it would go over your whole head, but it is like a vacuum attached to a clipper.

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That's great.

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I'm sure you just use it for dogs, Bryce.

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I'm sure it's just for dogs, right?

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You have two kids, right?

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You have some kids.

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Yeah.

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Exactly.

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You shave them down and then hose them down outside when you're done.

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Done.

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Hey there.

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Editor Leo here.

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In the interest of not spreading any fake news, I had apparently sourced some misinformation and that you totally still can by the Flowbee.

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So props to all you Flowbee heads out there.

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You can get one today.

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Sorry to Russell for skimping you some points.

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F-L-O-W-B-E-E dot com, I guess.

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Anyway, back to the show.

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Russell, do you remember Head On?

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Applied directly to the forehead.

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Head On.

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A topical homeopathic headache relief product.

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And it would say that over and over again.

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Head On applied directly to the forehead.

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Introduced in 2005.

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So more recently than I remember.

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But can you still buy Head On today?

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I'm sure you can buy the organic version with essential oils.

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So, I mean, you just have...

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That's got to be a thing.

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Head On is gone.

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You cannot buy Head On.

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There's probably 100 knockoffs, like you said.

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The FDA shut it down.

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The product, even though it was not even marketed as real medicine, it didn't even survive those standards.

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It is gone.

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All right.

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Round two.

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The workout round.

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Bryce, do you remember the perfect push-up in 2006?

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It was a rotating push-up handle.

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You'd go, like, up and down and it would rotate as you pumped up and down.

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Introduced in 2006.

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Does it exist today?

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I think I still see videos of those going around.

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I think fitness influencers are still using it.

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That is still a thing.

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Absolutely right.

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Perfect push-up.

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Scott.

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The Bowflex.

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The big one in the...

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The titan of the industry.

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1986.

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I didn't realize it was that old.

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Resistance-based design.

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It was kind of a cultural icon of a thing for a while there, but does it still exist today?

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I see it on Facebook Marketplace every once in a while, so I'm going to say no.

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They are still around.

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No way.

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Good for them.

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Bowflexes are things you can...

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Yeah, you can still buy a Bowflex today.

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Is Chuck Norris still alive?

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Is that...

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It's his product, right?

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As long as he's alive, that thing is still alive, right?

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Is he a Bowflex guy?

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I think so, right?

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I thought he invented it.

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I believe it.

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There's probably a Chuck Norris joke in there, like the Bowflexes flex Chuck Norris or something.

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I don't know.

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That's right.

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That's right.

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That's it.

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There's something in there.

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I can't find it.

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Edit one in later.

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Russell.

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The Shake Weight.

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Introduced in 2009.

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Known for dynamic inertia design.

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The Shake Weight is a spring-loaded dumbbell that had an awkward way that you held it, and it

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was to tone your upper body muscles.

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Famously parodied on South Park.

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Does it still exist today?

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I feel like they made so much money back in the day, they could never get rid of it.

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There is still updated modern Shake Weight that you can buy today on Amazon.

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All three of those products in that category are still a thing.

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What colors do they come in?

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I guess that's...

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I looked on Amazon.

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There is a white one.

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It was like the Shake Weight Flex or something.

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It had like a...

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There's like categories of product now in there.

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I don't know how it works, but a great gag gift for White Elephant, I think.

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Always.

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One more time through.

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Bryce.

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The Ronco Rotisserie.

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The classic, set it and forget it.

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Rotisserie oven.

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1991.

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Famous for making home-cooked rotisserie-style meats with minimal effort.

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1991.

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Does it exist today?

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I can't believe that it still exists.

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Although, fantastic product.

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Love the marketing.

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I don't think it survived this era of ninjas and all the other products out there.

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So I say no.

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It's not around.

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They are still around.

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You can get yourself a Ronco Rotisserie.

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I was surprised too.

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Scott, last one for you.

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Life Call.

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This is a medical alert device, the precursor to a different company called Life Alert.

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The ones who invented the phrase, I've fallen and I can't get up.

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That's not Life Alert?

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That's not Life Alert.

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Life Alert had a variant that they trademarked, but that was originally made by Life Call in

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Is Life Call still in the industry today?

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I'm going to say because I heard a one and not this one, I'm going to say no.

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They did fold.

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You are correct.

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Life Alert came along and like, where I've fallen, but I can't get up.

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They like vanilla iced it.

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It's like really similar, but not the same, you know?

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Just enough to not get sued.

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Vanilla iced it.

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Ours is dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun.

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You know, totally different.

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Russell, last one for you.

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Sham Wow.

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2006.

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Absorbent cleaning towel.

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It had a really iconic like marketing thing, but is it still a product you can buy today?

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High energy demos.

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That's right.

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Late night infomercials.

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I'm pretty sure, rest in peace, that guy.

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I think he, like.

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Vince?

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Is it Vince?

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He was the Slap Chop guy.

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Oh, no.

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That were both Vince.

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It was the same guy.

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I think the product left with him.

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I think it's the same guy.

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I think it's the same guy.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Or maybe this is the OxyClean guy.

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I think I'm going to see him up.

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Billy Mays is definitely dead.

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Rest in peace.

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That's the wrong.

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I'm thinking.

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Shoot.

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Maybe Vince is dead too.

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I don't know.

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Then Sham Wow.

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If Chuck Norris is alive and the Bowflex is alive, whatever that guy's name is.

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Is the Sham Wow alive, Russell?

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Yes.

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George Foreman.

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It is still.

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You are absolutely right.

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Which I think means you clinched it.

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You got all three, Russell.

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Did I really?

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Oh, wow.

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I think so.

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Well done.

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So I think that means you got to go first, right?

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Oh.

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Russell, what have you got for us this week?

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All right.

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So me and the fam love to walk around downtowns all the time, and we love to see these cute little

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signs, but never buy them.

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All those cute little signs that say, you know, live, laugh, love.

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Oh.

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All the home is where your heart is.

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All that stuff, right?

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Drink coffee.

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Read a good book.

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Yes.

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All that.

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So my idea is to create a machine that you post up in a Lowe's, and you have all the different

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selections of wood, whatever options are available.

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You cut it to size, shape, and you have this giant maybe printer or CNC or whatever, and you

265
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sell the machine, and you print whatever you want.

266
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There's templates.

267
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There's upload your own design.

268
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There's whatever.

269
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You know, it's straight up like the Walgreens printer, but on wood.

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You can duplicate your keys.

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You can print a live, laugh, love sign.

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I like it.

273
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Exactly.

274
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It's like a hundred craft show booths all in one little machine.

275
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Yeah.

276
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Completely destroy like Etsy and the entire industry of mom and pop shop like signage.

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So yeah.

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Choose your campy italic or cursive font.

279
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Choose your family motto or whatever and print it in vinyl.

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I have a friend who has a vinyl cutter, and about once a year I ask her, hey, can you make

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this logo or make this custom design for me?

282
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Because I haven't needed it enough to buy my own, right?

283
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But if I could go to a store and do that too, I probably would.

284
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Yeah.

285
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And I make all this money on the ink or whatever.

286
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Lowe's is buying ink for me all the time, right?

287
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They buy the machine.

288
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They buy my ink.

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They buy the tool heads.

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Training.

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Got the full.

292
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The full HP experience.

293
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My mind goes to having this in a Staples or a store like that.

294
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Like, let's revitalize those stores, right?

295
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Give me a reason to go in there and make some signs.

296
00:11:24,140 --> 00:11:25,440
I forgot about Staples.

297
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Like motivational posters for your office.

298
00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:28,920
Yes.

299
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That's actually not a bad idea.

300
00:11:30,680 --> 00:11:33,740
You got to have the inventory of different wood sites.

301
00:11:33,740 --> 00:11:35,340
Actually, they do that at Walgreens right now.

302
00:11:35,340 --> 00:11:37,200
They just have tons of different picture frames.

303
00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,820
You just do that for pre-made wood things, right?

304
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Yeah.

305
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Staples would love that.

306
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Here at Ringcam.

307
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You can do anything.

308
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You can, like, have the custom, you know, your business name, your family's last name here

309
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thing.

310
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Every wedding would get, like, every, you know, you'd get, like, three or four.

311
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Weddings would be huge for that.

312
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I don't know what to get.

313
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The registry's all bought up.

314
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Get a sign.

315
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Yeah.

316
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Custom everything on there.

317
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Honestly, Russell, I like the, I just love the idea of having, you know, Lowe's a just

318
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anyone can use easy to use CNC or laser or whatever.

319
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Where, like, I need a specific piece of wood in this shape or exactly this thickness for

320
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just a shim or whatever.

321
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And I can just go in there, hit three buttons, and it'll spit out by the time I'm done.

322
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The maker space.

323
00:12:21,940 --> 00:12:22,240
Yeah.

324
00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,660
I would have used that on many occasions.

325
00:12:25,140 --> 00:12:28,960
I've been on the hunt for, like, a year for a picture frame that's big enough to be a

326
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shadow box for a project I have in my mind.

327
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But, like, I haven't found quite the right one.

328
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The Ikeas and craft stores of the world haven't really had the right, like, size and shape that

329
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I have in my brain.

330
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But if I could go in and custom order it and not pay $8 million from a framing studio.

331
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A frame?

332
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Are you kidding me?

333
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It's four of the cheapest pieces of wood possible and you're charging me $800?

334
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No.

335
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I don't know how much, but yeah.

336
00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:56,960
So true.

337
00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:57,880
So true.

338
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If you could custom order that shit from Lowe's in 10 minutes and it, like, cuts it to size

339
00:13:04,060 --> 00:13:05,600
and stuff, that makes a lot of sense.

340
00:13:05,860 --> 00:13:06,220
Wow.

341
00:13:06,220 --> 00:13:07,920
What if we just did that?

342
00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:09,520
Like, just picture frames.

343
00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:10,900
That's where all the money is.

344
00:13:10,900 --> 00:13:13,160
They're stupid expensive, man.

345
00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:14,180
Like, wow.

346
00:13:14,180 --> 00:13:18,360
There's got to be something about it that I don't, that I'm too stupid to, like, realize

347
00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:19,980
is the key to this market.

348
00:13:19,980 --> 00:13:22,580
Because framing studios are, like, a thing.

349
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And I get that some of it is the artistic vision and you have to, like, know how to lay

350
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it out right and what colors would go well and kinds of wood.

351
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But some of it is like, this is like four cents of materials.

352
00:13:33,340 --> 00:13:34,160
Are you kidding?

353
00:13:34,740 --> 00:13:39,000
I guess it's nice glass if I'm doing the, like, expensive version or something.

354
00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:40,560
But a sheet of plastic.

355
00:13:40,560 --> 00:13:41,120
I don't know.

356
00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:41,920
Like acrylic.

357
00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:43,300
But off topic.

358
00:13:43,300 --> 00:13:46,400
So what is the actual specific product?

359
00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:48,900
Like, is it vinyl that's going onto this wood?

360
00:13:48,900 --> 00:13:49,600
Is it paint?

361
00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:50,660
Is it something else?

362
00:13:50,660 --> 00:13:52,120
It's the machine.

363
00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:53,820
So I'm selling the machine.

364
00:13:53,820 --> 00:13:54,060
Oh.

365
00:13:54,060 --> 00:13:56,320
And the machine creates what?

366
00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:59,220
The machine prints on the inventory.

367
00:13:59,220 --> 00:14:01,140
Prints what onto the inventory?

368
00:14:01,140 --> 00:14:02,060
Prints paint?

369
00:14:02,060 --> 00:14:02,720
Like ink?

370
00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:03,580
Yes.

371
00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:04,140
Something.

372
00:14:04,140 --> 00:14:04,540
Okay.

373
00:14:04,540 --> 00:14:05,480
That was it.

374
00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:06,460
That was stenciling.

375
00:14:06,460 --> 00:14:07,520
That was the original.

376
00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:08,740
Actually, now I think about it.

377
00:14:08,740 --> 00:14:13,220
When I wrote this down a couple months ago now, it was at the print.

378
00:14:13,220 --> 00:14:14,980
It was at the paint section.

379
00:14:14,980 --> 00:14:17,600
So you'd put it and you post it next to the paint section.

380
00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:19,520
And so you could refill it on paint.

381
00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,940
They got all the different color things.

382
00:14:21,940 --> 00:14:23,900
And so you can just plug.

383
00:14:23,900 --> 00:14:25,040
It's just right there.

384
00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:28,120
Like Lowe's has everything you need for that to make sense.

385
00:14:28,300 --> 00:14:28,480
True.

386
00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:36,580
I was embarrassingly old when I realized that all of the paint jugs on the shelf are all white and they just squirt dye into it and shake it up.

387
00:14:36,580 --> 00:14:37,240
Same.

388
00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:43,460
Like I just assumed that it was like spray paint where there's your, you know, a hundred colors and you have to custom order anything that you don't want or whatever.

389
00:14:43,460 --> 00:14:46,760
But you can make infinite colors with whatever's in the back of the Lowe's there.

390
00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:47,000
Yeah.

391
00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:47,960
Another thing I have.

392
00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:48,380
Sorry.

393
00:14:48,460 --> 00:14:51,900
I'm trying to like maybe going to Spitball this into a maker space within Lowe's.

394
00:14:51,900 --> 00:14:52,860
Yeah.

395
00:14:52,860 --> 00:14:53,440
Sounds like it.

396
00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:53,640
Yeah.

397
00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:55,060
Yeah.

398
00:14:55,060 --> 00:14:56,440
Because like that's where it goes.

399
00:14:56,440 --> 00:15:00,780
Like I feel like I hate, I want to build these, these shelves behind me.

400
00:15:00,780 --> 00:15:01,140
Right.

401
00:15:01,140 --> 00:15:09,120
And I could either buy $30 shelves or buy a sheet of plywood for 30 and then they cut it.

402
00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:13,520
I think they already have like some saws already at Lowe's that you can use.

403
00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:24,420
But like get me the CNC, the router, the, all that other stuff, but like make it stupid easy where I just slide it in like a DVD and it comes out the other side.

404
00:15:24,420 --> 00:15:25,920
Like exactly what I want.

405
00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:33,540
Makerspaces have a reputation for being the like high tech, you know, soldering stations and drones and 3D printers and stuff.

406
00:15:33,540 --> 00:15:43,560
But they're, you know, long before that stuff existed, you had your guy in a garage with like a lathe and a CNC machine and stuff that was doing the same principles of things.

407
00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:47,580
But that sort of never became a communal thing that you could do.

408
00:15:47,580 --> 00:15:51,060
Like if a library or whatever spins up a maker space, it's all the high tech stuff.

409
00:15:51,060 --> 00:15:58,040
There really needs to be the like Lowe's hardcore equivalent to the car garage maker space where you're doing this kind of stuff.

410
00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:03,920
I don't know where I would go if I needed to borrow one lathe for an afternoon other than the one guy that I know, you know.

411
00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,920
I do love the idea of a commercialized maker space.

412
00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:17,040
It's one of the, one of the great things and not so great things about a maker space is that you have some interesting characters that are often in there and you're sharing these.

413
00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:17,740
Notice that.

414
00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:24,040
These machines with them, you know, and, and sometimes they get upset with you if you don't do the settings in the right way.

415
00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:32,100
But if I could have the standardized a little bit more by a Lowe's or similar and just have a guaranteed experience every time, I'd take it.

416
00:16:32,100 --> 00:16:39,320
And going back to the picture frame example here of, you know, so often I go to a store and they only have three of the frames that I want.

417
00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,300
But I need five or six of them.

418
00:16:41,300 --> 00:16:48,020
And, but so if I could go and get as many made as, as I needed exactly the way I wanted to, I'd be happy.

419
00:16:48,020 --> 00:16:48,880
I'd sign up.

420
00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:52,880
Are you picturing this Russell is like, this is like another, this is a red box.

421
00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:57,160
It's just a fully enclosed thing in the corner of Lowe's that you can just go up and type.

422
00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:02,420
Or is this like a sectioned out area where there's some guy in there running everything and just helping you through.

423
00:17:02,420 --> 00:17:03,000
Hmm.

424
00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,480
The grizzled old retired car mechanic.

425
00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:06,300
Grizzled old.

426
00:17:06,300 --> 00:17:07,140
That's it.

427
00:17:07,220 --> 00:17:08,940
Like, you know, the blinds machine.

428
00:17:08,940 --> 00:17:10,520
Have you guys gotten blinds at Lowe's?

429
00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:11,100
Yeah.

430
00:17:11,100 --> 00:17:15,280
Like they have this enormous, enormous, uh, blinds cutter.

431
00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:18,540
It is like 10 feet long.

432
00:17:18,540 --> 00:17:19,740
Insanely.

433
00:17:19,740 --> 00:17:21,780
It seems like very dangerous.

434
00:17:21,780 --> 00:17:22,380
Right.

435
00:17:22,380 --> 00:17:29,120
But like just some lowly employee that doesn't know how to like would never touch a machine in their entire life.

436
00:17:29,120 --> 00:17:31,780
Just plops this blind on the thing.

437
00:17:31,780 --> 00:17:34,020
And now it says, how long do you want it?

438
00:17:34,020 --> 00:17:34,560
All right.

439
00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:35,000
I cut it.

440
00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:36,820
And then boom, I got my blind.

441
00:17:37,120 --> 00:17:38,380
Measured and cut to size.

442
00:17:38,380 --> 00:17:40,320
Like they do the same thing for plexiglass too.

443
00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:50,320
If you need like a sheet of acrylic to see through you to grab the big sheet and they'll cut it to size right there with a special blade that some, you know, untrained employees hanging out at.

444
00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:50,620
Yeah.

445
00:17:50,620 --> 00:17:51,520
I mean, that's it.

446
00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:57,700
Like, let's just get some, let's throw some engineers on this, you know, and make this thing happen.

447
00:17:57,700 --> 00:18:01,760
Like just sell a couple machines or special routers.

448
00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:07,020
And I bet there's some carpenter geek out there listening on this podcast.

449
00:18:07,020 --> 00:18:09,600
That's like, I could make those machines out of wood.

450
00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:10,480
No problem.

451
00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:11,100
The equivalent.

452
00:18:11,100 --> 00:18:21,880
What the key to it is, is the equivalent of the like thing averse or pre-made, you know, design gallery stuff where you're scrolling through and you're typing in your custom line here or whatever for the wedding.

453
00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:27,340
But it's based off of the live, laugh, love design that someone else has actually professionally laid out.

454
00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:35,480
Do you guys remember when you'd have to get your photos developed and they would have these like Kodak little booths that would just be out in the middle of a parking lot?

455
00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:35,800
Yeah.

456
00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:37,300
And you just drive up, drop off your film.

457
00:18:37,300 --> 00:18:38,820
You come back later and pick it up.

458
00:18:38,820 --> 00:18:42,200
I imagine just these little pop-up booths like that for this.

459
00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:50,320
Like Scotty, you're saying like this red box equivalent, size it up a little bit more and you just drive up, put it in your order, pick it up.

460
00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:51,080
Simple enough.

461
00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:59,520
Man, I could almost like if Lowe's doesn't like me, right, like this idea, I could just post this up like in the strip mall right next to it.

462
00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:00,180
In the Lowe's parking lot.

463
00:19:00,180 --> 00:19:04,420
And you buy all your stuff at Lowe's, you drive over to Cutters R Us.

464
00:19:04,420 --> 00:19:06,420
And there we go, the name.

465
00:19:06,420 --> 00:19:07,760
Careful.

466
00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:08,340
I don't know.

467
00:19:08,340 --> 00:19:10,540
Probably not Cutters R Us.

468
00:19:10,540 --> 00:19:11,480
Oh, yikes.

469
00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:12,880
Yikes.

470
00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:14,000
Maybe not that.

471
00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:14,760
Trigger warning.

472
00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:21,000
You're going to make me put our first content warning in the description?

473
00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:22,680
Whoops.

474
00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:28,280
Russ, why are we drawing such an interesting crowd at our makerspace?

475
00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:32,660
The name, we got a, that was Chad GBD.

476
00:19:32,660 --> 00:19:33,060
No.

477
00:19:33,060 --> 00:19:34,100
Jeez.

478
00:19:34,100 --> 00:19:38,600
First we blame Gen Z, now we blame the AI.

479
00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:44,840
But yeah, but then you still get into this like, you got that employee that just geeks out about all the tech.

480
00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,920
I don't know why, there's just always, that was such a good observation.

481
00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,380
Why, like that's just how it is under those spots.

482
00:19:50,380 --> 00:19:55,960
And you kind of need that to have somebody so passionate to make that exist in its own right.

483
00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:56,720
But it's like.

484
00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,740
But you also know that they're sleeping there at night, right?

485
00:20:01,780 --> 00:20:06,480
They're the best at using all the equipment, but you know, they spent too much time there.

486
00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:07,020
Oh yeah.

487
00:20:07,020 --> 00:20:08,080
It's their identity.

488
00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:09,220
It's their whole life.

489
00:20:09,220 --> 00:20:13,000
And then, you know, you just have some mom that comes in like, I want to make a picture frame.

490
00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:17,340
And he'll, they will go all in on like, tell me the color.

491
00:20:17,340 --> 00:20:18,100
Where's it going to be?

492
00:20:18,100 --> 00:20:18,380
Yeah.

493
00:20:18,380 --> 00:20:19,080
They'll just, yeah.

494
00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,280
How many, do you guys buy a lot of those signs?

495
00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,180
Do you have a lot of those signs at home?

496
00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:29,300
I guess we're talking to four dudes, so you may not even know that they're purchased or exist in your home.

497
00:20:29,300 --> 00:20:34,280
My wife and I have ongoing jokes about how much we dislike that category of home decor.

498
00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:39,060
Bryce is looking around like, read a good book.

499
00:20:39,060 --> 00:20:40,440
Welcome to the kitchen.

500
00:20:41,020 --> 00:20:46,020
We don't, we don't have the cheesy ones, but we do make our own signs around here.

501
00:20:46,020 --> 00:20:46,940
We make our own decor.

502
00:20:46,940 --> 00:20:47,440
Like what?

503
00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:53,280
Uh, we'll definitely, I mean, I'll also make like a cutting board, you know, whatever.

504
00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:53,840
I'm very handy.

505
00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:58,760
I'm the extreme end of the spectrum though, because like I'm hand making my kitchen cabinets, right?

506
00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:06,120
So every, I, I don't want to go to Hobby Lobby and pay $60 for something that is $2 of material.

507
00:21:06,120 --> 00:21:06,420
Exactly.

508
00:21:06,420 --> 00:21:09,000
Like you're saying, Leo, that that's, that's my apprehension.

509
00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:10,400
It's like, I can make that myself.

510
00:21:10,540 --> 00:21:20,200
But there is that little bit of, of tooling gap or talent gap when you have to get to like a, yeah, a laser cutter or CNC machine.

511
00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,520
You know, I don't have room for those in my house.

512
00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,140
So it's your garage that I want to go to.

513
00:21:25,140 --> 00:21:25,540
Yeah.

514
00:21:25,540 --> 00:21:28,220
We're going to recreate your garage, but in Lowe's, I get it.

515
00:21:28,220 --> 00:21:31,020
Every project is an excuse to buy a new tool.

516
00:21:31,020 --> 00:21:31,520
Exactly.

517
00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:32,380
That's boy math.

518
00:21:32,380 --> 00:21:39,680
All right, Leo, what do you got this week?

519
00:21:40,060 --> 00:21:40,280
Okay.

520
00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:46,580
So I don't know if there's enough meat on this bone to make it a full, this is kind of a, a intramurals idea, but I think we'll see where it goes.

521
00:21:46,580 --> 00:21:55,080
We've talked a little bit about what it would be like to have like a shared pool of tools that you're subscribed to, or that you're contributing your tools to.

522
00:21:55,340 --> 00:21:57,960
I want to pair that back and pivot on it a bit.

523
00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:04,580
And I've been thinking about how there's the concept of the seasons being flipped in the hemispheres.

524
00:22:04,580 --> 00:22:08,760
You've got your winter and the summer being north and south sides of the earth, right?

525
00:22:09,180 --> 00:22:13,740
Which happens to coincide with exactly when I take my, Scott's already laughing at me.

526
00:22:13,740 --> 00:22:19,000
When you take your equivalent tools out for either snow blowing or lawn mowing.

527
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:33,020
And I'm wondering if I could go to my cool new website and say, I would like to enter into a partnership with Pablo, who lives in Argentina or somewhere on the southern side of the world.

528
00:22:33,020 --> 00:22:39,460
And we have my service rent a container ship twice a year, a couple of containers on there.

529
00:22:39,460 --> 00:22:46,520
And I do a swap where I, I own 50% of every tool that I need seasonally.

530
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:50,260
And I just switch with someone else on the other side of the world.

531
00:22:50,260 --> 00:22:55,160
Who, who also needs the tool the exact time that I don't.

532
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:55,940
And vice versa.

533
00:22:55,940 --> 00:22:59,840
My snowblower is going to be better traveled than I am.

534
00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:00,940
That's the whole idea.

535
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:04,760
This is a Spitball right here.

536
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:12,160
So we've got opposite of America and Europe and Russia, I guess.

537
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:16,420
We've got Australia, Africa, and South America.

538
00:23:16,420 --> 00:23:21,740
And there's probably equivalent sister cities that we could try to match up climates with, right?

539
00:23:21,740 --> 00:23:23,180
You find the perfect one.

540
00:23:23,180 --> 00:23:24,240
They roughly correlate.

541
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:25,100
Yeah.

542
00:23:25,100 --> 00:23:28,140
I only need my leaf blower for like six weeks a year.

543
00:23:28,140 --> 00:23:32,540
And it's the exact opposite time of the year that someone else might need it on the other side of the world.

544
00:23:32,540 --> 00:23:33,520
And it just sits.

545
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:40,900
Leo, I love that you set up this idea by saying, let's take a step back and make this simpler than just sharing with our neighbor.

546
00:23:42,140 --> 00:23:44,460
Let's ship our tools all the way across the world.

547
00:23:44,460 --> 00:23:54,040
All of this started because I learned that it's actually relatively inexpensive to very slowly ship something in a container.

548
00:23:54,040 --> 00:24:00,340
Like you can get a container across long distances for pretty cheap, especially if you can pivot a lot of stuff in it.

549
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,180
And it's not usually by weight.

550
00:24:02,180 --> 00:24:03,780
It's done by container itself.

551
00:24:03,780 --> 00:24:06,780
So you just have to like make it fit into a big metal box.

552
00:24:06,780 --> 00:24:08,440
Like what could you do with that?

553
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,040
That is a good point.

554
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:11,380
It must be super affordable.

555
00:24:11,380 --> 00:24:17,580
In order for these like really cheap things to make it across the world and stay cheap, it's got to be affordable to load up a container.

556
00:24:17,780 --> 00:24:26,600
Your AliExpresses and your Tmoo's of the world are just packaging up a bunch of orders into one big old container and shipping it six weeks.

557
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:33,380
You know, if you were a rental company and you owned all of that equipment, maybe that would make a little bit.

558
00:24:33,380 --> 00:24:33,900
There you go.

559
00:24:33,980 --> 00:24:36,040
So you're just renting it out for the season.

560
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:36,840
You never own it.

561
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:36,980
Yeah.

562
00:24:36,980 --> 00:24:39,020
This could even be scaled up like industrial.

563
00:24:39,020 --> 00:24:49,300
Like I know that the businesses that I work at have giant like front mounted front loader snowblowers and stuff that are sitting not used for months at a time.

564
00:24:49,300 --> 00:24:56,420
Maybe this is a corporate subscription that they're doing the same idea, but with some headquarters over in Belize or I don't know.

565
00:24:56,420 --> 00:24:58,640
Dude, where the market is.

566
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,580
There are people where there are people and there's snow.

567
00:25:00,580 --> 00:25:01,720
That's where you go.

568
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:02,620
Catchphrase.

569
00:25:02,620 --> 00:25:03,960
I meant to say Brazil.

570
00:25:04,180 --> 00:25:05,120
Belize is in the Caribbean.

571
00:25:05,120 --> 00:25:07,400
I'm trying to think of.

572
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:07,600
Yeah.

573
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:14,500
I'm trying to think of a tool or service that could very slowly, steadily just follow the changing season.

574
00:25:14,500 --> 00:25:16,740
Just like birds migrating south.

575
00:25:16,740 --> 00:25:18,660
You know, 100 miles a day.

576
00:25:18,660 --> 00:25:19,880
It's just getting moved and used.

577
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,280
You can even do that across the US.

578
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:31,300
Right now we're having, we're in the middle of autumn when we're recording this and leaves are starting to fall where we are, which means that in a month leaves will be falling in like Tennessee and Kentucky.

579
00:25:31,740 --> 00:25:40,220
And as it goes down, we could even have this be like a wave of tools that slowly makes its way south and then back north in the spring.

580
00:25:40,220 --> 00:25:40,840
That's fun.

581
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:41,240
Yeah.

582
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,260
I think that's just, it's just a logistics issue.

583
00:25:43,380 --> 00:25:47,500
Just got to do the, you know, traveling salesman math and you could do that, right?

584
00:25:47,500 --> 00:25:50,420
Well, Leo, a shift on this.

585
00:25:50,420 --> 00:25:52,080
This is quite a tangent.

586
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:56,020
I'm thinking of how carnivals go around the country.

587
00:25:56,320 --> 00:26:01,260
And like, how could you just tag along with those carnivals are already moving around?

588
00:26:01,260 --> 00:26:05,560
How could you ship things alongside them and just follow their route?

589
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,420
You know, they're already going that direction.

590
00:26:07,420 --> 00:26:14,580
Well, like how concert infrastructure, you've got your tours that like pack and unpack buses and loads full of equipment and stuff.

591
00:26:14,580 --> 00:26:15,100
Yeah.

592
00:26:15,500 --> 00:26:15,940
Whoa.

593
00:26:15,940 --> 00:26:21,160
I bet there's empty like room in a bunch of trucks too, just all over.

594
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:21,880
Sorry.

595
00:26:23,140 --> 00:26:27,440
That sound is Scott laughing at how there's not any room in the tour bus.

596
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:31,520
Dave Matthews Band is totally fine with you sticking your lawnmower in the tour bus.

597
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:32,080
They don't care.

598
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:32,660
That's exactly what I was thinking.

599
00:26:32,660 --> 00:26:38,100
Yeah, we're heading down to Georgia.

600
00:26:38,100 --> 00:26:38,980
Hop on.

601
00:26:38,980 --> 00:26:46,320
Well, what if you had like a standard box that you can put and ship anything like the USPS flat rate shipping boxes?

602
00:26:47,180 --> 00:26:52,240
And now, like, let's say I wanted to move across the state, right?

603
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:53,300
I could have a truck.

604
00:26:53,300 --> 00:26:55,960
I could ping my local truckers.

605
00:26:55,960 --> 00:27:01,160
As long as you don't see your stuff for two months, it'll get there though.

606
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:01,740
And it's cheap.

607
00:27:01,740 --> 00:27:02,260
Right?

608
00:27:02,260 --> 00:27:03,340
That's what I'm looking for.

609
00:27:03,340 --> 00:27:05,060
It all comes back to stores on.

610
00:27:05,060 --> 00:27:06,280
Everything is stores on.

611
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:07,780
In our hearts, we want it to be stores on.

612
00:27:08,620 --> 00:27:16,940
Which, I mean, at that point, like, now it's, you know, it's empty space on a truck that's being utilized and paid for and it's cheaper.

613
00:27:16,940 --> 00:27:21,080
And if you don't care about the time, boom, every truck in America is full.

614
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:22,360
It's eco-friendly.

615
00:27:22,360 --> 00:27:25,300
This could be something where logistics companies are just laughing.

616
00:27:25,300 --> 00:27:27,360
Like, of course we don't have empty space.

617
00:27:27,360 --> 00:27:28,400
That's our whole job.

618
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,040
What if you did this for, like, with cars?

619
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:38,640
Like, what if I had, like, you know, my fast car or my cheap, like, my summer car or my winter truck?

620
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:39,820
Or tires.

621
00:27:39,820 --> 00:27:46,180
I trade my seasonal winter tires to someone over on the other side of the world and vice versa.

622
00:27:46,180 --> 00:27:48,700
I'd more likely do with tires than a snowblower.

623
00:27:48,700 --> 00:27:52,960
They put a couple thousand miles on them, but there's still plenty of life left in these things.

624
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:53,960
I'll put them back on.

625
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:54,240
Yeah.

626
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,860
There's got to be other stuff that you only use part of the year, right?

627
00:27:56,860 --> 00:27:57,420
Yeah, that's what I'm trying to think of right now.

628
00:27:57,420 --> 00:27:58,180
Christmas lights.

629
00:27:58,180 --> 00:28:01,240
Well, I guess Christmas happens on the same date, even if it's summertime.

630
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:02,660
Something like that, you know?

631
00:28:02,660 --> 00:28:05,460
Where it's like, I only need this for a month or two.

632
00:28:05,460 --> 00:28:05,980
Clothing?

633
00:28:05,980 --> 00:28:07,560
Here's all my summer outfits.

634
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,000
Here's all my winter outfits.

635
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:09,700
Hot tubs.

636
00:28:09,700 --> 00:28:10,940
Hot tubs!

637
00:28:10,940 --> 00:28:16,360
Are there any other products that have special shipping rates, like books?

638
00:28:16,360 --> 00:28:19,200
You know, it's super cheap to ship books around.

639
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:20,440
They have their own class.

640
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:20,700
Yeah.

641
00:28:20,700 --> 00:28:21,280
Media mail.

642
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:25,680
Other media, so, like, DVDs and tapes and stuff also fall under media mail.

643
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,860
It'd be great if it was, like, shoes qualified.

644
00:28:27,860 --> 00:28:31,980
Because you could easily move your winter boots around and someone else.

645
00:28:31,980 --> 00:28:32,480
Yeah.

646
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,780
Or you trade DVD collections with your media mail friend.

647
00:28:35,780 --> 00:28:37,360
I guess we just reinvented Netflix.

648
00:28:37,360 --> 00:28:38,780
DVDs.com.

649
00:28:38,780 --> 00:28:39,560
That's good.

650
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:40,860
A peer-to-peer version of it?

651
00:28:40,860 --> 00:28:41,700
That'd be kind of fun.

652
00:28:41,700 --> 00:28:42,440
Yeah.

653
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:48,840
I'm contributing this old DVD of Blade to the collections that I could pull down someone else's.

654
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,700
Starsky and Hutch season two.

655
00:28:51,700 --> 00:28:53,420
Yeah, that's where the future is.

656
00:28:53,420 --> 00:28:56,300
It's physical DVDs getting shipped out.

657
00:28:56,300 --> 00:28:57,880
Take all my money.

658
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,440
Packing in all empty crevices in a semi full of DVDs.

659
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:02,480
Yeah.

660
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:03,660
On a tour bus.

661
00:29:03,660 --> 00:29:04,180
With Dave Matthews.

662
00:29:04,180 --> 00:29:05,060
With Dave Matthews.

663
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,180
Okay, we don't have to try to pull any more out of this.

664
00:29:09,180 --> 00:29:12,900
It was a half-baked one, I admit.

665
00:29:12,900 --> 00:29:18,940
It's entitled Container Ship Lawn Tools Hemisphere Swap.

666
00:29:18,940 --> 00:29:21,040
Shipping a snowblower to Pablo.

667
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:26,080
I don't think that combination of words has ever existed.

668
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,280
No, it's a brand new sentences.

669
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:38,580
All right, Scott, what have you brought for us this week?

670
00:29:38,580 --> 00:29:45,180
Okay, if anyone has tried to buy a house in the last X years, you know it sucks right now.

671
00:29:45,180 --> 00:29:46,880
There's no inventory.

672
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,160
What there is gets snapped up immediately.

673
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:50,640
Interest rates are high.

674
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,400
Everything just stinks about it.

675
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:59,420
And among our friend group and my family and recently a random group of people I met on a trip last week,

676
00:29:59,420 --> 00:30:01,200
everyone just seems to be talking like,

677
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:02,580
let's just screw everything.

678
00:30:02,820 --> 00:30:04,980
let's just buy a plot of land and start a commune.

679
00:30:04,980 --> 00:30:07,460
And I've been hearing that more and more.

680
00:30:07,460 --> 00:30:15,160
And so Amazon is now selling like those A-frame houses for like 15 to 20 grand, right?

681
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:20,200
Let's just start a company that goes out, you pick a plot of land, you get a group of people together

682
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:24,240
that pools money, and this company that we start will set up all the rest.

683
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:28,300
We will help you get utilities running to each individual plot on there.

684
00:30:28,420 --> 00:30:31,800
We will help you with whatever gas electrical on it.

685
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,920
We'll help you set up the pole barn in the middle or the shared tool space or whatever.

686
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,080
You can just get a group and start a commune for cheap.

687
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,340
And we just have all the resources to do that.

688
00:30:40,340 --> 00:30:41,820
And that is the entire idea.

689
00:30:41,820 --> 00:30:43,220
And I am so frustrated.

690
00:30:43,700 --> 00:30:45,160
I want to start this all the time.

691
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:45,900
Yes.

692
00:30:45,900 --> 00:30:50,140
You pitch us on the commune for our friends group several times a year, every year.

693
00:30:50,140 --> 00:30:50,860
And I love it.

694
00:30:51,340 --> 00:30:59,320
And my first hesitation is always like, man, the contracts and obligations side of that would be like a nightmare.

695
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:03,760
Like, how do you make sure that you don't have the guys who, you know, ruin it for everybody?

696
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,040
That's what this company's for.

697
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,660
It has all the templates of all of the...

698
00:31:07,660 --> 00:31:08,180
Exactly.

699
00:31:08,180 --> 00:31:09,640
Scott, I'm all in.

700
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,960
I think I am the Scott of my friend group.

701
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,520
I'm always pitching the commune as well, trying to get people to move in.

702
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,520
I just don't know what I'm doing fully.

703
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,480
And I know that if I were to talk to...

704
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:25,880
I actually have talked to professional builders about this and just all the little things that I am forgetting of what it would take to set this up.

705
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:31,840
Although I kind of came to the conclusion last night, like, am I just creating a way for people to build HOAs and that's it?

706
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:32,560
Easy.

707
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:33,940
Because that feels evil.

708
00:31:33,940 --> 00:31:36,200
A commune owner's association.

709
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:37,520
I mean, that's what a commune is, right?

710
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:38,520
It's just a...

711
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:39,900
It's either a cult or an HOA.

712
00:31:39,900 --> 00:31:41,060
There's only two options.

713
00:31:41,060 --> 00:31:43,400
Inside of you, there are two wolves.

714
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,480
Scott, I think you single-handedly solved the housing crisis.

715
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:49,200
That's it.

716
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,300
We will get so many more houses if just...

717
00:31:52,300 --> 00:31:57,860
Every day I look on Zillow and there's like, oh, there's 20 acres over there for a relatively affordable price.

718
00:31:57,860 --> 00:32:00,420
Because there's no utilities on that property.

719
00:32:00,420 --> 00:32:01,280
It's not sections.

720
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:02,060
It's not zoned.

721
00:32:02,060 --> 00:32:03,120
It's 20 acres.

722
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,220
Either forest or farmland.

723
00:32:05,220 --> 00:32:06,480
We could turn that into...

724
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,980
Do zoning laws in most places let you do this?

725
00:32:08,980 --> 00:32:12,320
Like, can you just take one parcel and turn it into 10?

726
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:16,460
That's another page on our website that helps you navigate the zoning laws.

727
00:32:16,460 --> 00:32:17,400
Oh, of course.

728
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:18,380
We have a lawyer on retainer.

729
00:32:18,380 --> 00:32:20,660
The engineers will figure that out.

730
00:32:20,660 --> 00:32:22,500
The lawyers.

731
00:32:22,500 --> 00:32:23,460
Lawyer engineers.

732
00:32:23,460 --> 00:32:26,300
Can you tell me a little bit about these A-frame houses that are on Amazon?

733
00:32:26,300 --> 00:32:27,080
Have you seen these?

734
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:27,760
No.

735
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:28,380
Tell me more.

736
00:32:28,380 --> 00:32:29,720
Oh, we got to post a link on it.

737
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:30,440
It is...

738
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:30,680
Yeah.

739
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,440
15, 20 grand homes, right?

740
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,500
It's just like, it's everything...

741
00:32:34,500 --> 00:32:35,420
Is this like a tiny home?

742
00:32:35,420 --> 00:32:39,160
They're bigger than a tiny home, but not by much.

743
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,100
Like, it's technically two stories with a second story.

744
00:32:42,100 --> 00:32:43,200
It's just kind of a loft.

745
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,340
Couple bedrooms, single bathroom, all on a slab.

746
00:32:46,340 --> 00:32:49,640
So you just get someone to go out, pull out the concrete, and then they will deliver you

747
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:50,540
a house to put on there.

748
00:32:50,540 --> 00:32:52,120
You hook up the utilities and you're good.

749
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:56,280
And you use that as like your baseline for if you want to build bigger, better houses,

750
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:57,560
do whatever you want over time.

751
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:01,360
But this is your starter home on the commune for 15 grand.

752
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:01,980
Dang.

753
00:33:01,980 --> 00:33:02,440
Yeah.

754
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:07,520
And then we can make a bunch of money selling materials and other things to individuals going

755
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:07,940
forward.

756
00:33:07,940 --> 00:33:08,460
Yeah.

757
00:33:08,460 --> 00:33:09,880
The whole setup process.

758
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:10,540
Like...

759
00:33:10,540 --> 00:33:10,760
Mm-hmm.

760
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:12,120
The 12-stall garage.

761
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:12,600
Yep.

762
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:16,680
The communal playground in the middle, the communal tool barn or whatever.

763
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:21,160
You could subcontract all that work out too, so you're technically like not doing

764
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:21,520
anything.

765
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:22,640
You're the coordinator, yeah.

766
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,200
Find a couple companies that you trust of contractors.

767
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:26,160
Easy call.

768
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:30,920
In your ideal version of the commune with your friends, Scott, if this came to fruition exactly

769
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,540
how you wanted it to be, what things would be a communal resource and what things would

770
00:33:34,540 --> 00:33:35,580
be individual to the home?

771
00:33:35,580 --> 00:33:38,140
We'd have to set it up in the bylaws at the start.

772
00:33:38,140 --> 00:33:46,420
I love the idea of, like I said, a shared pole barn for tools, shared garden in some form.

773
00:33:46,420 --> 00:33:49,840
Anyone can come out here, a big hydroponic setup or something.

774
00:33:50,180 --> 00:33:50,940
Shared shower.

775
00:33:50,940 --> 00:33:50,960
Shared shower.

776
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:52,580
You know, it's a commune.

777
00:33:52,580 --> 00:33:53,680
Shared shower.

778
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,740
Shared bathhouse.

779
00:33:55,740 --> 00:34:01,000
Once a year, Leo's Pablo snowblower comes in and gets delivered and we can all share that

780
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:01,580
one together.

781
00:34:01,580 --> 00:34:08,400
Guys, I was almost a customer of a similar service.

782
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:08,860
No way.

783
00:34:09,020 --> 00:34:13,980
That is focused on, it's focused on homesteaders, not really calling it the commune.

784
00:34:13,980 --> 00:34:16,220
They call it homesteading collectives.

785
00:34:16,220 --> 00:34:16,600
Yeah.

786
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:20,200
But they, they buy real estate in strategic areas.

787
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,140
Just kind of exactly what you're talking about there.

788
00:34:22,140 --> 00:34:27,220
And then they subdivide it and they do some matchmaking to make sure that everyone shares

789
00:34:27,220 --> 00:34:28,640
values on this property.

790
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:34,220
But there are, to answer the question of like the common infrastructure, they do have, like

791
00:34:34,220 --> 00:34:37,940
they have shared pastures or livestock.

792
00:34:37,940 --> 00:34:38,660
Yeah.

793
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:40,920
And then a schoolhouse building.

794
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,980
So everyone's homeschooling their kids and all that.

795
00:34:43,980 --> 00:34:47,600
So this is like three levels beyond what I was thinking, but that's incredible.

796
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:48,040
Whoa.

797
00:34:48,140 --> 00:34:48,300
Yeah.

798
00:34:48,300 --> 00:34:53,940
Well, and these homes, like each one is like $800,000, but they, like they build the homes

799
00:34:53,940 --> 00:34:57,020
for you, including your own livestock and your gardens.

800
00:34:57,020 --> 00:34:58,580
They have it all ready for you to move it.

801
00:34:58,580 --> 00:35:01,200
It's high end homesteading done for you.

802
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:06,360
Um, so different, probably different entry point to the market than, you know, the commune,

803
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,820
but yeah, I love it.

804
00:35:08,820 --> 00:35:10,900
It's like farming and glamping.

805
00:35:10,900 --> 00:35:14,260
Yeah.

806
00:35:14,260 --> 00:35:14,740
Interesting.

807
00:35:14,740 --> 00:35:18,120
So for the ultra rich in that, in that case, like you've still got, you know,

808
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:23,440
like each individual house with its own traditional land ownership and all that stuff.

809
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:28,080
Scott, you're kind of thinking like some sort of communal LLC or something is the owner of

810
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:28,980
a lot of this stuff, right?

811
00:35:28,980 --> 00:35:32,920
Or how does that honestly think it makes more sense if you were to divvy it up in the property

812
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,180
of it, like, Hey, this is your plot of land.

813
00:35:35,180 --> 00:35:36,820
We just have first rights to buy.

814
00:35:36,820 --> 00:35:39,540
If you want to sell it back to the communal area.

815
00:35:39,540 --> 00:35:40,320
That makes sense.

816
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:40,680
Yeah.

817
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,920
800,000 for the house coming in at the start.

818
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,160
I honestly, I love the concept.

819
00:35:46,340 --> 00:35:49,460
I want to try to get a low barrier to entry on this though.

820
00:35:49,460 --> 00:35:51,400
More mass market, Scott.

821
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:52,220
More mass market.

822
00:35:52,220 --> 00:35:52,480
Yeah.

823
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,880
You come to me with, you found the property already.

824
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,960
You come to me and we will help you set that up.

825
00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:59,820
How many dudes want to be on this plot?

826
00:35:59,820 --> 00:36:00,160
All right.

827
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:00,560
I got it.

828
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:01,840
Forward.

829
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,660
Venmo 80, 80 K.

830
00:36:04,720 --> 00:36:05,180
I got you.

831
00:36:05,180 --> 00:36:05,200
I got you.

832
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:06,800
We take Venmo.

833
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,080
I got you.

834
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:13,160
Here's the kit for all the husbands to try to sell their various partners on the idea.

835
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,920
I'll talk to them.

836
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:17,680
We all know none of the wives want to do this.

837
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,340
Comes with the live, laugh, love sign.

838
00:36:19,340 --> 00:36:19,920
It's fine.

839
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,120
Bryce, I want to look up that company so bad now.

840
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:28,660
Well, Scott, I do see that trend on social media all the time.

841
00:36:28,660 --> 00:36:35,020
It's always a collection of female best friends who want to build six tiny houses next to each

842
00:36:35,020 --> 00:36:36,580
other on a piece of land somewhere.

843
00:36:36,580 --> 00:36:39,940
And then you see the comments are just full of like, we got to do this.

844
00:36:39,940 --> 00:36:40,960
They're tagging all their friends.

845
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:41,120
Right.

846
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:42,260
The market's there.

847
00:36:42,260 --> 00:36:44,400
You just, yeah, just be the service for them.

848
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,040
Be like, we got turnkey for you.

849
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:47,820
How many, exactly what you're saying, guys.

850
00:36:47,820 --> 00:36:49,520
Like, how many houses do you need?

851
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:50,420
Where are you thinking?

852
00:36:50,420 --> 00:36:51,540
I got you.

853
00:36:51,540 --> 00:36:52,300
What amenities do you want?

854
00:36:52,300 --> 00:36:52,740
Venmo 80K.

855
00:36:52,740 --> 00:36:53,460
We'll take it.

856
00:36:53,460 --> 00:36:54,920
Venmo 80K.

857
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,220
It's prime delivery.

858
00:36:57,220 --> 00:36:58,300
We'll be done in two days.

859
00:36:58,300 --> 00:36:58,960
It'll be fine.

860
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,680
Two days shipping of all your homes.

861
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:03,660
I think that's why it went viral.

862
00:37:03,660 --> 00:37:08,180
I got to find the link to that A-frame, but it was on prime and people were just like,

863
00:37:08,180 --> 00:37:09,380
how is this possible?

864
00:37:09,380 --> 00:37:10,520
What is happening here?

865
00:37:10,940 --> 00:37:15,920
There has to be a company in China that just is spitting out like modular homes, right?

866
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,620
You can buy a car on AliExpress.

867
00:37:17,620 --> 00:37:19,220
You can buy a house on Amazon.

868
00:37:19,220 --> 00:37:22,780
You just Google like West Michigan tiny homes.

869
00:37:22,780 --> 00:37:23,400
There's like a building.

870
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:28,740
Tiny homes are a thing that like doesn't necessarily have to mean one little one room cabin.

871
00:37:28,740 --> 00:37:31,500
There's upstairs lofts and stuff, all kinds of designs.

872
00:37:31,500 --> 00:37:35,500
I like what you're saying though, Bryce, where it's the, you could start with the tiny home

873
00:37:35,500 --> 00:37:39,340
on the low end of the spectrum and go all the way up to the high end.

874
00:37:39,340 --> 00:37:45,060
And there was a couple up in Northern Michigan that they bought a modular home, but it was

875
00:37:45,060 --> 00:37:50,540
a multi-million dollar modular home where they're just like, they send a fully assembled

876
00:37:50,540 --> 00:37:54,020
bathroom in there and they just connect it to the rest of the house and a fully assembled

877
00:37:54,020 --> 00:37:54,720
bedroom connected.

878
00:37:54,720 --> 00:37:56,380
And they kind of shifted around how they want.

879
00:37:56,380 --> 00:37:57,880
And this house was beautiful.

880
00:37:58,140 --> 00:38:02,420
It was everything pre-designed and ready to go and up in just a couple of days.

881
00:38:02,420 --> 00:38:03,180
I played Tetris.

882
00:38:03,180 --> 00:38:03,640
Yeah.

883
00:38:03,860 --> 00:38:05,320
But it was very expensive.

884
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:10,000
And in a year, if you want to rearrange your whole home's layout, you just take it apart,

885
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:11,500
put the bathroom on the other end.

886
00:38:11,500 --> 00:38:11,940
And yeah.

887
00:38:11,940 --> 00:38:14,420
It's just all about putting it on slabs, I guess.

888
00:38:14,420 --> 00:38:16,920
If you can live without a basement, you can make this work.

889
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:18,940
I'll be so fond of rearrange your home like that.

890
00:38:18,940 --> 00:38:19,120
Yeah.

891
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:20,620
I'm kind of stuck on that idea now.

892
00:38:20,620 --> 00:38:25,760
Is there a way that we could make like International Space Station style modules that connect and

893
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:31,860
disconnect and you could like get one crane in a weekend and rearrange your whole house

894
00:38:31,860 --> 00:38:32,140
layout?

895
00:38:32,140 --> 00:38:34,300
And put in the laundry room right next to the bedroom.

896
00:38:34,300 --> 00:38:34,900
I'm sick of this.

897
00:38:34,900 --> 00:38:35,460
For now.

898
00:38:35,460 --> 00:38:37,320
For now.

899
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:41,380
But if you're in a commune and then like your neighbor takes your wall from you because

900
00:38:41,380 --> 00:38:45,500
they just want like, you're just missing a wall.

901
00:38:45,500 --> 00:38:46,280
What do you do?

902
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:53,300
All right, Bryce, what have you brought us this week?

903
00:38:53,300 --> 00:38:56,580
Guys, I'm so excited to share these ideas with you.

904
00:38:56,580 --> 00:39:00,140
I've been pondering all day which ones it would be.

905
00:39:00,140 --> 00:39:01,520
I'm like you guys.

906
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,760
I have the long list of business ideas.

907
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:04,200
Hell yeah.

908
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:05,320
Things I'm never going to touch.

909
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:06,800
Notebooks, follow them.

910
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:10,940
And there was so much pressure today to pick which one I was going to present.

911
00:39:10,940 --> 00:39:15,820
You don't know like the anxiety and the thrill I've had all day trying to think about which

912
00:39:15,820 --> 00:39:16,460
one it's going to be.

913
00:39:16,460 --> 00:39:18,420
And at the end of it all, I couldn't decide.

914
00:39:18,420 --> 00:39:21,980
So I'm going to give you three options to choose from.

915
00:39:21,980 --> 00:39:22,420
Hell yeah.

916
00:39:22,420 --> 00:39:22,880
Yeah.

917
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:27,540
And but I'm not I'm not even going to give you like the one liner on it.

918
00:39:27,540 --> 00:39:29,920
I'm just going to give you category for where it is.

919
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,780
So one's for at work, one's for at home and one's for the gym.

920
00:39:33,780 --> 00:39:34,320
All three.

921
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:35,880
Oh, we can do all three, too.

922
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:36,960
I can burn through them.

923
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,000
I got another 50 after that.

924
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,920
I would love home.

925
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:43,460
Yeah, let's start.

926
00:39:43,460 --> 00:39:44,040
I choose home.

927
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:44,940
I was going to say home, too.

928
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:46,100
What is home?

929
00:39:46,100 --> 00:39:47,380
Home for 200.

930
00:39:47,380 --> 00:39:49,620
OK, so home for 200.

931
00:39:49,620 --> 00:39:50,580
This is a 200 one.

932
00:39:50,580 --> 00:39:55,560
So this one is inspired by the recent Tesla robots, the Optimus robots.

933
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:59,280
And you know how they're saying that in the next few years are going to be these autonomous

934
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,440
robots that are in your home doing all that.

935
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:06,860
But they at the demos, they were being controlled by just a human remotely.

936
00:40:06,860 --> 00:40:07,560
Right.

937
00:40:07,720 --> 00:40:11,180
And I was thinking, I'm actually totally OK with that right now.

938
00:40:11,180 --> 00:40:17,880
Give me these robots controlled by a remote worker and let them like log in for two hours,

939
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:22,140
do stuff around my house, then log into someone else's robot for a couple hours, do things in

940
00:40:22,140 --> 00:40:22,660
their house.

941
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,300
And now I'm not paying for a full time robot butler.

942
00:40:25,300 --> 00:40:26,480
And I'm getting the result.

943
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:27,760
I don't need the autonomous thing.

944
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:28,940
You're training the data.

945
00:40:28,940 --> 00:40:29,380
Yeah.

946
00:40:29,380 --> 00:40:32,680
And they don't have to drive to like whatever that service would be.

947
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:36,040
Let's say it's like housekeeping that the butler is doing that.

948
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,540
A human doesn't have to drive to my house to do it now.

949
00:40:38,540 --> 00:40:39,880
Better for the environment.

950
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:40,900
Better for their time.

951
00:40:40,900 --> 00:40:41,580
It's more efficient.

952
00:40:41,580 --> 00:40:43,620
You get your choice of knowledge experts.

953
00:40:43,620 --> 00:40:49,220
You've got the best plumber in the region who's hopping into like 30 different houses

954
00:40:49,220 --> 00:40:51,120
because he doesn't have to travel between them all.

955
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:51,700
Ooh.

956
00:40:51,700 --> 00:40:52,720
Exactly.

957
00:40:52,720 --> 00:40:54,800
The robot can do anything.

958
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:56,280
It's who's the operator.

959
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,360
And you just tag them in.

960
00:40:58,360 --> 00:40:58,920
Whatever you need.

961
00:40:58,920 --> 00:40:59,760
Plumber, housekeeper.

962
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:00,560
That's amazing.

963
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:01,360
Oh, man.

964
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:07,440
This is like the dial old grizzled expert idea but dialed up to 11.

965
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:07,760
Yeah.

966
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:12,360
But I could also hire some random person to mow my backyard at the same time with the same

967
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:12,520
hardware.

968
00:41:12,860 --> 00:41:15,180
And aid me on the piano while I'm eating dinner.

969
00:41:15,180 --> 00:41:21,140
Or maybe it's a neighborhood robot and you can share it with your neighbors.

970
00:41:21,140 --> 00:41:22,520
It just marches down the street.

971
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:23,500
On the commune.

972
00:41:23,500 --> 00:41:24,340
That's perfect.

973
00:41:24,340 --> 00:41:25,360
The commune.

974
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:26,220
The commune bot.

975
00:41:26,220 --> 00:41:27,160
The commune bot.

976
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:28,580
I suppose you don't have to have your own.

977
00:41:28,580 --> 00:41:28,780
Yeah.

978
00:41:28,780 --> 00:41:31,420
In fact, I'd probably be more comfortable not having my own.

979
00:41:31,420 --> 00:41:35,640
I don't love the idea of someone being able to remote software wise and then just be an

980
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:36,740
agent in my home.

981
00:41:36,740 --> 00:41:39,200
That's definitely what you wake up to at 2 a.m.

982
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:40,160
Strangling you, right?

983
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,980
You just chain it in your basement when it's not in use.

984
00:41:43,980 --> 00:41:46,520
Unplug the Wi-Fi, all right?

985
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:47,180
From it, you know?

986
00:41:47,180 --> 00:41:48,580
From some.

987
00:41:48,580 --> 00:41:53,840
The only thing that could be a little unsettling is if this robot is outside your house and has

988
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,600
to like come to your front door to then get access.

989
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,520
And sometimes it misses the front door.

990
00:41:58,520 --> 00:41:59,320
It's just in your window.

991
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:00,700
Just kind of like peering in.

992
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:01,940
Oh, no.

993
00:42:01,940 --> 00:42:03,640
I must do your dishes.

994
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:04,680
Yeah.

995
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,780
Walked through your front door, busted it off the hinges.

996
00:42:07,780 --> 00:42:09,280
It's so dystopian.

997
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:14,560
But this is like, this is going to be a real thing sooner than later in between that.

998
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:15,020
Yeah.

999
00:42:15,020 --> 00:42:16,480
My fear is the idea that we're there.

1000
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:17,280
Full of general AI robots.

1001
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,300
It's going to be a lot cheaper to outsource it to Indonesia, right?

1002
00:42:20,300 --> 00:42:24,580
And have some third world country person driving around doing your whatever.

1003
00:42:24,580 --> 00:42:25,100
Oof.

1004
00:42:25,100 --> 00:42:30,740
What if like I could have like even like friends and family come over in a way and make it like

1005
00:42:30,740 --> 00:42:32,180
a little less weird, right?

1006
00:42:32,180 --> 00:42:33,220
But they're like present.

1007
00:42:34,220 --> 00:42:39,940
So, yeah, the phone a friend, you know, you're making a meal and you want your aunt who has

1008
00:42:39,940 --> 00:42:43,160
a secret recipe and also the know-how for how to like make the thing.

1009
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:44,160
They're right there.

1010
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:45,360
They're rolling the dough.

1011
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:46,720
Whatever it is, you know?

1012
00:42:46,720 --> 00:42:49,700
Tape a picture of her face on other robots face.

1013
00:42:49,700 --> 00:42:51,540
Yeah.

1014
00:42:51,540 --> 00:42:52,980
It's just FaceTime, right?

1015
00:42:52,980 --> 00:42:54,520
You throw your phone on it or something.

1016
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,280
It's FaceTime on the phone.

1017
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:57,880
It's called FaceTime already.

1018
00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:58,520
It's perfect.

1019
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:03,220
I'm just wondering why are we waiting until it's fully autonomous?

1020
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:07,080
And then we have to trust it to make all these decisions on its own.

1021
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:07,440
Yeah.

1022
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:12,200
If it can mechanically move around through the world now and I can control it maybe through

1023
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:17,320
a smart suit or whatever or just like an Xbox controller to get me most of the way there,

1024
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:18,020
you know?

1025
00:43:18,020 --> 00:43:19,200
Why not?

1026
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:20,280
Why are we waiting?

1027
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:20,560
Yeah.

1028
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:26,100
People talk about how the best like current telepresence systems are VR headsets, right?

1029
00:43:26,100 --> 00:43:29,000
Where you feel like you're tricking your brain into being in this space.

1030
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:33,100
But you can imagine the VR headset plus this being the ultimate like control.

1031
00:43:33,620 --> 00:43:37,900
control apparatus for going to visit grandma who lives in another country or whatever.

1032
00:43:37,900 --> 00:43:39,900
Give me a hug, grandma.

1033
00:43:39,900 --> 00:43:43,540
You finally get to hold the baby.

1034
00:43:43,540 --> 00:43:46,920
Too hard.

1035
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:47,300
Too hard.

1036
00:43:47,300 --> 00:43:47,760
Too hard.

1037
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,260
Oh, God.

1038
00:43:49,260 --> 00:43:50,460
But man, construction.

1039
00:43:50,460 --> 00:43:51,680
That'd be awesome.

1040
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:52,360
Yeah.

1041
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,320
Like just building homes, right?

1042
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:59,340
Like those subcontractors in general are expensive and they hate driving.

1043
00:43:59,700 --> 00:44:05,840
You could do virtual visits, like virtual assessments of properties and inspections like

1044
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:06,560
remotely.

1045
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:07,000
Yeah.

1046
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,680
Do you have eliminating travel time in a lot of these industries?

1047
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,920
One of my previous startups was in the restaurant technology space.

1048
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:18,120
We worked with a lot of service providers and every service provider, you know, these, uh,

1049
00:44:18,380 --> 00:44:22,080
the electricians, the plumbers, they all had a truck fee, right?

1050
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:25,320
Whether they were going to do work or not, when they got out there, they were going to

1051
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,300
charge you 150 bucks for them just to get there.

1052
00:44:28,300 --> 00:44:32,660
And then they may, they quote you, maybe they do work, maybe they do nothing, but it's 150

1053
00:44:32,660 --> 00:44:33,700
bucks and you're just out.

1054
00:44:33,860 --> 00:44:35,380
So how do we avoid that?

1055
00:44:35,380 --> 00:44:35,780
Right.

1056
00:44:35,780 --> 00:44:38,340
You could, um, like temps, I don't know.

1057
00:44:38,340 --> 00:44:44,640
Like, let's say, um, you run a retail shop and you, one of your employees was like, I'm

1058
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:48,080
sick last minute, boom, fire up the robot.

1059
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:48,700
Sure.

1060
00:44:48,700 --> 00:44:54,820
You're paying a premium maybe for like, you know, a 15 or $30 an hour worker at that point

1061
00:44:54,820 --> 00:44:58,240
because they're the, the backup to the retail outlet.

1062
00:44:58,240 --> 00:44:58,560
Right.

1063
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,640
So they know they have a bunch of retail experience.

1064
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:06,160
So you, you know, pull up the robot in the back and now they're running the shop or stocking

1065
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:07,340
shelves or something too.

1066
00:45:07,340 --> 00:45:07,600
Right.

1067
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:08,320
Yeah.

1068
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:08,900
Commercial.

1069
00:45:08,900 --> 00:45:10,280
And you can have, yeah.

1070
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:14,460
And those things don't get tired, you know, stocking shelves or whatever.

1071
00:45:14,460 --> 00:45:15,740
They don't need smoke breaks.

1072
00:45:15,740 --> 00:45:20,980
They don't need like if, when, when you have somebody does their 20 minutes of controlling

1073
00:45:20,980 --> 00:45:25,360
the robot, but then they can immediately cut over to somebody else doing it without a loss

1074
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,540
of like, you know, the humans can take more breaks and it wouldn't be.

1075
00:45:28,540 --> 00:45:30,720
Wouldn't mean that the job isn't getting done.

1076
00:45:30,720 --> 00:45:35,240
I was, I've been using replet lately with the AI agent and it writes code for you and it's

1077
00:45:35,240 --> 00:45:35,820
really cool.

1078
00:45:35,820 --> 00:45:40,040
And I, the first day I picked it up, I worked with it for eight hours and I was just loving

1079
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:40,280
it.

1080
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:44,140
And at the eighth hour it said, ah, I need to take a break.

1081
00:45:44,140 --> 00:45:46,980
And I said, no, you don't get to take a break.

1082
00:45:46,980 --> 00:45:48,600
What?

1083
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,620
Please boss.

1084
00:45:50,620 --> 00:45:52,020
I'm still working.

1085
00:45:52,020 --> 00:45:53,080
Yeah.

1086
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:54,200
It's like, if I'm working, you're working.

1087
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:54,820
Let's go.

1088
00:45:55,220 --> 00:45:55,520
Dang.

1089
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:56,600
Yeah.

1090
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:58,820
Little glimpses of dystopia.

1091
00:45:58,820 --> 00:45:59,540
You fire that one.

1092
00:45:59,540 --> 00:46:05,460
You want the A type personality robots, not the, the go getter hustler ones.

1093
00:46:05,460 --> 00:46:05,680
Right.

1094
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,000
Wipe your existence.

1095
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:08,520
Get back to coding.

1096
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:12,880
You know, this wrote, like, let's say you bought a fleet of these robots and you know,

1097
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:18,060
the night shift for like manufacturing or stocking would be way easier.

1098
00:46:18,060 --> 00:46:18,500
Right.

1099
00:46:18,500 --> 00:46:20,200
Cause it's daytime in India.

1100
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:21,340
That's right.

1101
00:46:21,340 --> 00:46:23,400
The other side of the world now.

1102
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:24,660
So now there's no.

1103
00:46:24,660 --> 00:46:25,820
There's a hemisphere swab.

1104
00:46:25,820 --> 00:46:28,340
Leo, that's what I was thinking, right?

1105
00:46:28,340 --> 00:46:30,760
But like, then there you go.

1106
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:35,100
Now, like the whole night shift crew does like the whole night shift thing doesn't have to

1107
00:46:35,100 --> 00:46:35,700
exist anymore.

1108
00:46:35,700 --> 00:46:37,240
Turns it into a day job.

1109
00:46:37,240 --> 00:46:37,960
That's interesting.

1110
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,480
That's better health outcomes for individuals as well.

1111
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,020
They don't have to work third shift, work overnight.

1112
00:46:43,340 --> 00:46:46,060
Quality of life for humankind, right?

1113
00:46:46,060 --> 00:46:51,400
And you're doing the same thing for your day job, stocking shelves for, you know, somewhere

1114
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,140
in China or Russia or something.

1115
00:46:53,140 --> 00:46:53,420
Yeah.

1116
00:46:53,420 --> 00:46:54,040
Yeah.

1117
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,160
The shelves already stocked over here.

1118
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,240
You know?

1119
00:46:58,240 --> 00:47:03,560
Soon all we're doing is stocking each other's shelves and the economy is powered by night

1120
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:05,180
workers that are actually in the day.

1121
00:47:05,180 --> 00:47:06,640
Everything's backwards.

1122
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:07,560
So confusing.

1123
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:11,740
I just watched a Optimist 2, like 30 second preview of it.

1124
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,080
I hadn't seen that, the latest version of it.

1125
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:15,180
That's incredible.

1126
00:47:15,180 --> 00:47:19,840
The dexterity and like, it's just like picking up an egg and just like, hey, I can walk.

1127
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:20,540
I can do things.

1128
00:47:20,540 --> 00:47:21,340
That's incredible.

1129
00:47:21,340 --> 00:47:26,280
Makes you wonder if the robo taxis just had a dude in the trunk, like laying down, remote

1130
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:27,260
controlling them.

1131
00:47:27,260 --> 00:47:32,680
The cyber robo van and the cyber taxi or whatever.

1132
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:34,280
We should play around with that.

1133
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:38,400
See how many different cutaways we could make of the robo taxi and all the different ways

1134
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,580
the person could have been contorted in there.

1135
00:47:40,580 --> 00:47:42,700
Could they be like laying flat underneath it?

1136
00:47:42,700 --> 00:47:43,120
You know?

1137
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:44,100
What is it?

1138
00:47:44,100 --> 00:47:50,860
That was how the Domino's autonomous delivery worked in the beginning.

1139
00:47:50,860 --> 00:47:52,000
Did you guys know about that?

1140
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:52,980
No, I don't know this.

1141
00:47:52,980 --> 00:47:58,680
So Domino's, they have, I think they had drivers in the beginning and then it was autonomous.

1142
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:03,680
But, you know, you would punch in a code in the, on the car as it showed up and then it

1143
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,360
would open up, the hatch would open up and then you would get your pizza.

1144
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:11,320
They actually had a person inside there who would open, no matter what code you pressed,

1145
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:16,180
they would open the door and have your pizza loaded in there.

1146
00:48:16,180 --> 00:48:17,440
That's the only way it's legal.

1147
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:17,680
Yeah.

1148
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:19,040
So there was someone in there just hiding.

1149
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:19,440
Right.

1150
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:20,400
That's great.

1151
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:21,920
The future is now.

1152
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:25,980
But it was to like validate the market and some usability testing and all that.

1153
00:48:25,980 --> 00:48:26,060
Spoken beers.

1154
00:48:26,060 --> 00:48:26,940
Yeah.

1155
00:48:26,940 --> 00:48:27,960
MVP.

1156
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:33,140
Is that like just some pizza driver driving 30 miles, pulling that thing out of their truck

1157
00:48:33,140 --> 00:48:35,920
and then going like 80 feet to the door?

1158
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:37,720
Yep.

1159
00:48:37,720 --> 00:48:38,140
Yeah.

1160
00:48:38,540 --> 00:48:41,020
Make the autonomous thing autonomous in phase two.

1161
00:48:41,020 --> 00:48:43,080
Right now it's just autonomous proof of concept.

1162
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:43,680
Okay.

1163
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:47,420
I just feel like you're like a ghost jumping in between bodies.

1164
00:48:47,420 --> 00:48:49,400
It's just like, whoop, whoop.

1165
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:49,800
I know.

1166
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:50,080
Yeah.

1167
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:50,300
Yeah.

1168
00:48:50,300 --> 00:48:50,880
For real.

1169
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,480
It would be what the employee perk is like.

1170
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:59,420
After you work eight hours, you get to walk around for 10 minutes in the, in this robot,

1171
00:48:59,420 --> 00:49:03,380
like outside or like that's the perk is you just get to explore a little bit.

1172
00:49:03,380 --> 00:49:03,800
Oh.

1173
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:05,200
That would be really cool.

1174
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:10,040
I would take, I would pay for a service that let me just like drop me in front of some

1175
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:14,440
tourist traps around the country or on the world, even, you know, like, like a virtual

1176
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:18,200
vacation for an afternoon where you are walking around someplace.

1177
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:19,380
That's kind of hard to get to.

1178
00:49:19,380 --> 00:49:20,160
Growing up.

1179
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:24,880
Do you get, did you guys ever play the game kidnap where you would like, okay, I'm going

1180
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:29,820
to sound like a psychopath when I describe this, but I swear it was a fun adolescent game.

1181
00:49:29,820 --> 00:49:34,120
So you and your group of friends would take one of your friends and you would kidnap

1182
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,140
them with their, I'm bored with this.

1183
00:49:36,140 --> 00:49:39,960
You drop them off some other opposite side of town with no phone.

1184
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,280
And then they have to figure out how to get home.

1185
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:42,780
Right.

1186
00:49:42,780 --> 00:49:49,840
Imagine that in this like a telepresence robot where you just get dropped into a robot somewhere

1187
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:50,700
else in the world.

1188
00:49:50,700 --> 00:49:53,860
And then you have to figure out how to get this robot back.

1189
00:49:53,860 --> 00:49:56,180
You know, it's like interactive geo guesser.

1190
00:49:56,180 --> 00:49:59,620
You're stuck into like a street view, but you, Oh shoot.

1191
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:00,920
I'm in Katmandu.

1192
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:02,200
What am I supposed to do here?

1193
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:02,600
Yeah.

1194
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,160
Can I get the robot home?

1195
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,380
The best escape room ever made.

1196
00:50:07,380 --> 00:50:08,980
Just sitting on a plane.

1197
00:50:08,980 --> 00:50:12,180
It's just a silent robot.

1198
00:50:12,180 --> 00:50:13,700
Perfectly still.

1199
00:50:13,700 --> 00:50:16,120
Does anyone know how to fly this plane?

1200
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,700
One ticket to Chicago, please.

1201
00:50:18,700 --> 00:50:20,220
Put a pilot in there.

1202
00:50:20,220 --> 00:50:23,680
And dude, like what if you like, do you even need the full on robot?

1203
00:50:24,100 --> 00:50:27,680
I guess you could do this with way like Waymo does this with their cars.

1204
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:31,640
Like, do you, why don't I just have somebody, can I just plug in?

1205
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:32,760
Let's say like.

1206
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:37,740
Someone's sitting at home with an Xbox controller and an Oculus can drive a car anywhere in the

1207
00:50:37,740 --> 00:50:37,960
world.

1208
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:38,140
Yeah.

1209
00:50:38,140 --> 00:50:42,640
Or just do some of this, like without the full on robot, you could just create a remote

1210
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:44,420
controlling devices as a service.

1211
00:50:44,420 --> 00:50:44,980
Right.

1212
00:50:44,980 --> 00:50:47,580
They are doing something like that in the construction industry.

1213
00:50:47,660 --> 00:50:52,160
So you can remotely control like excavators, which is going to be a lot safer than having

1214
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:53,880
people on these construction sites.

1215
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:55,220
Yeah.

1216
00:50:55,220 --> 00:50:55,660
Boom.

1217
00:50:55,660 --> 00:50:58,060
They talked about that with robot surgeons too.

1218
00:50:58,060 --> 00:51:01,360
You could have somebody controlling it across the world or across the country.

1219
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:06,580
And there's, you know, the three different remote surgery places that the one surgeon's

1220
00:51:06,580 --> 00:51:07,380
operating in.

1221
00:51:07,380 --> 00:51:13,100
Be careful when you sign up for remote surgery, because if you read it wrong, maybe you're just

1222
00:51:13,100 --> 00:51:17,200
getting surgery in a far away place and you're in a remote territory.

1223
00:51:17,420 --> 00:51:24,980
I thought I was paying for a remote surgeon, but no, it was some dude in a shack in Brazil

1224
00:51:24,980 --> 00:51:25,520
or whatever.

1225
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:25,860
Yeah.

1226
00:51:25,860 --> 00:51:29,820
To put your phone in airplane mode when you go get surgery in a place like that.

1227
00:51:29,820 --> 00:51:31,420
Like I can't have it messing with it.

1228
00:51:31,420 --> 00:51:34,740
One dropped packet and that scalpel's going through your body.

1229
00:51:34,740 --> 00:51:35,480
I hate that.

1230
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,260
I hope you close it right there.

1231
00:51:38,260 --> 00:51:40,440
I hope that's your ending line of the segment.

1232
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,560
So thanks for listening, listener.

1233
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:43,980
Yeah.

1234
00:51:43,980 --> 00:51:45,380
We hope you enjoyed yourself.

1235
00:51:47,180 --> 00:51:48,980
And thanks so much, Bryce, for joining us.

1236
00:51:48,980 --> 00:51:49,720
This is so fun.

1237
00:51:49,720 --> 00:51:51,180
This is a blast.

1238
00:51:51,180 --> 00:51:54,580
We have at least two other ideas that you were like on deck to give us today.

1239
00:51:54,580 --> 00:51:56,240
So we definitely have to have you back soon, man.

1240
00:51:56,240 --> 00:51:56,800
Yeah.

1241
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,420
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1242
00:51:59,420 --> 00:52:03,820
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1243
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1245
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00:52:12,300 --> 00:52:13,700
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1250
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by this that we just put out into the world and send a link to them, to this show.

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