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I'm Scott. I'm Russell. And I'm Leo. This is Spitball.

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Welcome to Spitball, where three techie tinkerers and a guest empty their heads of startup and tech

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product ideas that we have stuck up in there so you can all have them for free. Anything that we

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say is yours to keep. And Russell, I believe you brought our guest this week. Is that right?

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I did. We have Jimmy here, who is one of the all-star folks of back in the day. We had a college

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entrepreneurship program. Him and his buddy launched and won many competitions with a little of my help.

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And it was... Because of me, you'd say. Definitely not. No. They, yeah. Anyways,

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no, they were awesome. And I hope to get more of these folks on. But yeah, Jimmy and Neil, the tag team

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duo. Yeah. Jimmy's one of the founders of... I forgot the name of that idea, Jimmy, but maybe you could

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drop some hints on that. I did too. I also forgot it.

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Fire Stop or something.

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Firesight. Firesight.

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Firesight. And not... Well, and then we rebranded to Deep Sight, which... Deep Sight. We were young.

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Interesting. Yep. Yep. Four eyes.

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I made a logo with Shopify's logo maker. It was great. Good times. I'm... I guess I'm Jimmy. Hello.

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Hi, Jimmy. Thank you for having me. Glad you're here. Deep Sight sounds like something conspiracy

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theorist right-wing nutjobs might say. 100%. That or an AI company.

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Yeah, right. Yeah. Deep learning. We could revive... Are you sitting on a logo? Yeah.

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The domain. If you got the domain, it's gonna be worth something. Yeah. Welcome to the Deep Sight.

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I'll be back. I'm gonna go... Actually, .site is a TLD. You could have Deep.Sight. I'm for this. Let's do it.

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Jimmy and I also, we started a podcast back in the day. This was actually one of the original...

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Like, when I talked about Sharkstank back in the day.

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Yeah. Sharkstank. I forgot.

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This really is the spiritual successor to Sharkstank. Yeah. Yep.

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Yep. I think we nod to that in episode one, right?

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Mm-hmm. Very first one. We have a little moment. Yeah.

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But yeah, they had actually a much more... It was a much more creative podcast that was very intellectual.

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I think it was like very thoughtful thinking of how to make ideas. Levers. Right?

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We had different levers that we pulled. This is a little bit more junk food-y is what I like to...

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Junk food for the entrepreneur podcast. That was a little bit more like, whoa, this is ideation on like steroids.

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So, I mean, if you ever come back, Jimmy, you could plug your podcast or whatever you want by the end of this episode.

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Sweet. If you're on your best behavior.

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If your idea is good.

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All right. Well, this week, it's been a few minutes since we've done a celebrity guest pitch.

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So this week, we're going to be kicking it off with Eric Charles Nielsen.

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Eric is Garrett in community and among other things and a big fan.

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So let's see what he has to say.

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Hi, this is Eric Charles Nielsen.

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Simple idea here.

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Laundromat, but for dishes.

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So, you know, the basic idea of a laundromat is that if you don't have a washing machine or if you've accumulated way too many clothes that need to be washed, etc., you go there, you wash your clothes, and you leave.

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And we don't really have anything like that for dishes.

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So if you don't have a dishwasher in your house or if your dishwasher is broken, you have to do them all by hand.

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And I feel like people would go and, you know, do their dishes.

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And I think it would work.

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Thank you very much, Eric.

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That rules.

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I am the dishes person in my house.

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And it always kills me when there's like two or three big pots and then that's like 80% of the dishwasher.

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And I prefer to wash everything so I get it thoroughly scrubbed and sanitized and all that.

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And like, oh, man, this is going to be two loads because we use this certain set subset of our dishes instead of that certain subset.

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I would totally like go to a place and do that.

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That sounds awesome.

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Or even better if it was like the laundromat services where they pick it up like an industrial one, drop it off the next day.

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Leave all your dishes in a garbage bag on your front door.

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Who's taking that?

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You know what I mean?

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The raccoons are.

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Have you seen those restaurant ones that are the giant metal boxes?

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You put dishes in there and then you run it and it's done in like three minutes.

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Then mine takes like two and a half hours.

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I would love to have access to an industrial one.

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That'd be great.

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Okay.

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That's the secret.

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Okay.

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You go around in a truck and people leave their dishes out and you have that industrial machine in the truck and you just go pull up two minutes.

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Do do do do do do.

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Put it back.

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Can I borrow your hose spigot?

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Dude.

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Yes.

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Or you just go full firefighter with it.

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You just take a fire truck.

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You could use the sprayer on an actual fire truck.

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It's good enough.

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I mean you just need a water boiler.

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Right.

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And what?

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A high pressure hose.

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And you just go to town.

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Boom.

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This is going to turn into Uber for dishes and I'm so excited.

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It's pretty much there.

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Yeah.

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Surge pricing.

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Dinner.

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Right after dinner.

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What if we just do rentable dishes?

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You know?

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Like the Uber for dishes but literally the dishes.

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So they take one set away and they give you back another set.

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Fractional dishes.

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Whoa.

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I love that.

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No one cleans them.

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You just put it outside in a precept tray when you're done.

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Unstackable.

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Yes.

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That's it.

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Like that way you don't have to buy dishes ever again.

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It's washing as a service.

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T-W-A-S.

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I wonder how much something like that would cost.

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That's what I was wondering.

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That's fascinating.

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Or like there's so many times where I'm like twice a year I need this thing.

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So I'll just have that.

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You know?

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I'll use my credit in the app to say I really need a weird deep 9x13 pan that I normally don't have.

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And then you're like sharing all.

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Yeah.

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This sounds like store is on and I'm very...

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I've got a worse one which is Roomba for dishes.

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So what if you have a small...

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Like you have a small device like a Roomba that you just let loose in your sink and it's just roaming around.

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It might take all night but who gives a crap?

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You're good.

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Whoa, whoa, whoa.

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Hold on.

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This is actually...

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Throwback to garage cleaning episode.

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Okay?

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It's a good one.

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Jimmy, it's basically you hang a hose in a soap machine and as you back out of the driveway it cleans your car every day.

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Okay?

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Unlimited wash.

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Okay?

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We got salt up here in the middle.

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Uh-huh.

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You're in Pittsburgh, right?

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There you go.

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I'm in.

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You could use this too.

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Yes.

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So throwback to that but taking that concept, okay?

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You have your dishes.

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You create a unit that goes on top of your sink and you just full on Etch-a-Sketch or clean this.

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You know what I mean?

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And it just creates...

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G-code clean it.

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You have high pressure, hot water and it swipes back and forth.

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Etch-a-Sketch?

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No.

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What's the thing?

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The kid's toy or the magnet, you know?

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And then you erase it by sliding that little thing back and forth.

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Isn't that Sketch-a-Sketch?

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I think it's Etch-a-Sketch.

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I think you're right.

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Sketch-a-Sketch.

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No, Etch-a-Sketch is...

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Etch-a-Sketch is the two tiles and you shake it.

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He's talking about the magnet that you draw and then you erase with it.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Those were cheaper too.

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What is that called?

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What is that called?

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Yeah.

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Doesn't matter.

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The magnet writing thing.

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I'm just trying to...

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Is there some hardware way that you could...

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I love the Roomba idea though.

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Like is it...

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What would it...

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What would that physically look like?

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Because if you have a bunch of plates in your sink stacked up...

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I have no idea.

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You'd have to physically pick one up and move it and start scrubbing the next one.

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I think it's more like a worm, like an invertebrate.

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All right?

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It's just slipping and sliding through there.

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You know?

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Because there's spaces.

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It's just wriggling around.

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It just lives in your garbage disposal and just like slides out when it senses dishes.

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Crawls out.

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Or it's like a robot arm that's coming out.

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Like you know how they have the sprayer?

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It's living there, but it's coming out and it's reaching its hand around in there and scrubbing.

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I know we're going to like high efficiency washing machines.

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This is like low efficiency, but you could almost like fill the sink to the brim and have

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it sort of slosh around in there for a while, don't you think?

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Uh-huh.

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Like an agitator?

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The whole sink kind of fills up and...

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Because you're going to get plates that stack 10 high and how do you get in between them and

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stuff?

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What if the sink covers, has a top and it becomes a dishwasher?

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What if your sink is a dishwasher?

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Sink?

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We've already done cabinets that are dishwashers in this show.

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It's time to do sinks that are dishwashers.

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I'm in.

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You just get a giant...

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You're like churning butter.

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Yes.

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It's like a freaking butter churn, all right?

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Big old sponge at the end.

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Rotate.

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Rotate.

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As you're going throughout the day, you're actually slotting the plate not haphazardly into the

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sink, but into spokes that are in the sink itself.

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You slide the top on twice a day, three times a day.

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Who cares?

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Then you just wash right then.

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I like it.

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Huh.

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You know, if we're at this point...

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I'm so happy we keep going back to this.

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Yeah.

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Let's just have it so the dishes just get stored.

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There's these way over-engineered cabinets that I've been working with at this company where

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it's just like this massive wall that one slot opens and it has all the things you need for

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this project.

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And then you can shut that slot, type in a button on a keypad, and the whole thing will rotate

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and pick the level that you want for your project.

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So your stuff's always in one spot and anyone can share it.

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I want that with my sink now where I don't have a drawer for forks or anything.

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I just type in, I need six forks, two plates, and a cup.

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And then when you put them back in the sink, it automatically washes it, automatically puts it

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away.

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That's where my head went to.

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I love it.

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Wow.

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I now want one.

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The technology's all here.

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This reminds me of Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.

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I don't know if you guys have seen that.

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Give me the synopsis.

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Like the opening scene is like there's an egg.

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It's like a Rube Goldberg.

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An egg like rolls down this metal thing.

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Like the chicken lays it, drops in, rolls down, it cracks itself open, hops onto a pan, pan

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makes it, something takes the pan, turns it into a plate, and then bam, it's at the kitchen

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table.

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We almost could design like a back and forth multi-layered conveyor belt where it's like

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a car wash where the plates and stuff go through a machine and pop out the other end in a couple

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minutes, you know?

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We've gotten away from the laundromat a little bit, but I like this.

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Yeah, I guess so.

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That's okay.

251
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Eric, we got so many dishwasher ideas, they're just overflowing.

252
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Yes.

253
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Okay.

254
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So what if you filled the sink with Orbeez?

255
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Okay.

256
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Or...

257
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Orbeez?

258
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The little like gel balls?

259
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Instead of Orbeez though, think of it like little tiny sponges.

260
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Tiny little bits of sponges.

261
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Okay.

262
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And now you just go in and out of the thing and you just...

263
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It becomes like the abrasive thing.

264
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It's just like in the sink, you know?

265
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It's like a ball pit, but for plate.

266
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Yes.

267
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And all the sponges impact.

268
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Yes.

269
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How many days before the sponge pit is repulsive beyond belief?

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I don't want to go in a ball pit, let alone one that's covered in old food and mildew.

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Listen, Leo, it's all connected to a giant...

272
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You throw it in the washing machine?

273
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Who washes the washman?

274
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It just feeds into your washing machine.

275
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What about Rover for dishwashers?

276
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Or someone else doesn't.

277
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How much could it be to have...

278
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You hit a button and some guy runs in your house and washes all your dishes and runs out.

279
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I would want like a team of three.

280
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I'd be like, all right, three guys, 45 bucks, 15 minutes in and out.

281
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Especially after a party, you know?

282
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You're just like, no, this is awful.

283
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I don't want to do a single dish.

284
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All the plates and...

285
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It sucked.

286
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I would pay $100 for that.

287
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Without a doubt.

288
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Yeah.

289
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There are some nights.

290
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Yeah.

291
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I like the truck idea the best.

292
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Mobile pulls up.

293
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Mm-hmm.

294
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That's the way.

295
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Hand them out the window.

296
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Leave it out.

297
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Give them a few minutes.

298
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They can get them back.

299
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That's great.

300
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It needs to have a theme music, like an ice cream truck.

301
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I don't know what it is.

302
00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:13,260
You gotta know that thing's coming, you know?

303
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Honey, get the...

304
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Me walking out with like 15 plates.

305
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Get the crock pot out.

306
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We've been sitting on these dirty dishes for three days.

307
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Finally, they're driving through the neighborhood.

308
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This becomes a utility, guys.

309
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Soon you're gonna be bringing out your trash can and your dishes to the edge of the curb.

310
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Oh my god.

311
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If you put it in some kind of cooler like sealed box or whatever and they can just...

312
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Oh.

313
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I mean, this is, I think, huge for apartment complexes.

314
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Oh.

315
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You know what I mean?

316
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Oh yeah.

317
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Every single apartment could now be dishwasher free.

318
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You have a room that's shared in the entire apartment complex.

319
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Campgrounds.

320
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They could just drive through the campground where you don't have access to stuff every night.

321
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Yes.

322
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Playing their music.

323
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That takes glamping to a whole new level.

324
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You'd have to do some branding around the music, you know?

325
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It'd have to be iconic, like the ice cream truck.

326
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That's a warm up.

327
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Yeah.

328
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Yeah, no kidding.

329
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I think I've got a good pivot right into my idea from this, actually.

330
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Let's do it.

331
00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:05,940
Let's just go right into it.

332
00:13:05,940 --> 00:13:11,420
So, it's time, finally, as we've all been asking for years, to improve the bathroom fan.

333
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It's on the ceiling.

334
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It has so many downsides.

335
00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:18,880
If you need to do like a full air displacement, but you also want to shut the door, then air

336
00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,540
is like seeping in from under the door and through cracks and stuff.

337
00:13:21,540 --> 00:13:22,600
That's not super efficient.

338
00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:28,780
Sometimes you just want to like dehumidify, but you also are doing a complete total air

339
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displacement and it takes forever and you forget that you left it on or it's loud.

340
00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,400
So, I've got a few things that I want to throw at y'all.

341
00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:37,700
This is kind of a threefer.

342
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First, obvious bathroom fans should have a dehumidifier in them so that I'm not doing

343
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a full displacement, don't you think?

344
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Where it just sort of like sends it down the drain line.

345
00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,800
That's not even, I don't even know if that's worth discussing.

346
00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:53,180
I should be able to flip one switch next to the fan to turn it on and do the whole suck

347
00:13:53,180 --> 00:13:58,280
it out to the outside or another one to say, no, I want you in the middle of winter to not

348
00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:03,120
be pulling all of the warm air that I paid for out into the world, but instead run a dehumidifier

349
00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:03,840
for a few minutes.

350
00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:05,120
It makes heat.

351
00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:06,380
It's like perfect.

352
00:14:06,380 --> 00:14:09,620
While you're showering, you just flip on that and then it's sucking up all of the extra

353
00:14:09,620 --> 00:14:10,140
humidity.

354
00:14:10,140 --> 00:14:11,740
Is there any more to say about that?

355
00:14:11,740 --> 00:14:12,840
It's so obvious to me.

356
00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:13,760
That's the first one.

357
00:14:15,340 --> 00:14:19,100
I honestly had never occurred to me and second one.

358
00:14:19,100 --> 00:14:19,960
There's a little more out there.

359
00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:23,020
I am constantly wowed by the wonders of ozone.

360
00:14:23,020 --> 00:14:28,540
You can get an ozone generator and it like disinfects a bit and it makes things smell good.

361
00:14:28,540 --> 00:14:32,700
I wish that I could flip a timer that runs like a five minute, put ozone in there and

362
00:14:32,700 --> 00:14:34,220
another five minute to suck it out.

363
00:14:34,220 --> 00:14:35,520
Huh?

364
00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:36,400
In the bathroom.

365
00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:36,940
Sure.

366
00:14:36,940 --> 00:14:41,000
So I hope you don't have plants or like a cat in there.

367
00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:44,000
The liability.

368
00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:45,120
The Yelp review.

369
00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:48,760
I guess that does lead right into my third, even more dangerous idea, which is just bathroom

370
00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:51,340
wide UV lights built into the thing itself.

371
00:14:51,340 --> 00:14:56,460
Put on your tanning bed goggles because we're going to light up every surface in this thing.

372
00:14:56,460 --> 00:14:58,580
Dehumidifier, ozone, UV.

373
00:14:58,580 --> 00:14:59,520
During flu season?

374
00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:00,100
Whoa, whoa.

375
00:15:00,100 --> 00:15:02,400
UV might, that might be huge, dude.

376
00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:02,780
Yeah.

377
00:15:02,780 --> 00:15:06,720
It seems like, I don't know, you'd flip the light switch and then the other one next to

378
00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:10,040
it is the five minute timer to just sort of blast it all when I'm walking out the door.

379
00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:10,940
AI.

380
00:15:10,940 --> 00:15:12,020
Machine learning.

381
00:15:12,020 --> 00:15:13,500
Machine learning does all this.

382
00:15:13,500 --> 00:15:14,520
All right.

383
00:15:14,580 --> 00:15:15,880
We have to slap that on there.

384
00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:17,640
Now we just doubled the valuation.

385
00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:18,160
There we go.

386
00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:18,500
Uh-huh.

387
00:15:18,500 --> 00:15:20,620
So what is air displacement?

388
00:15:20,620 --> 00:15:24,380
Why are we air just, is this a euphemism for it smells terrible and we got to get that

389
00:15:24,380 --> 00:15:25,100
stuff out of there?

390
00:15:25,180 --> 00:15:31,000
So the old timey bathroom fan that we've had for a hundred years means suck the air outside

391
00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:35,980
and then replace it with other air from under the door or just you leave it cracked or whatever,

392
00:15:35,980 --> 00:15:36,220
right?

393
00:15:36,220 --> 00:15:37,540
That's how fans kind of work now.

394
00:15:37,540 --> 00:15:42,340
And it seems largely wasteful when we spend so much energy trying to climate control inside

395
00:15:42,340 --> 00:15:47,600
and I don't know, like it takes a long time to suck all the air out of the room through

396
00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:48,200
a little fan.

397
00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:51,480
By displacement, I mean, you just like take all the air and replace it.

398
00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:52,940
Surely we can do better.

399
00:15:53,220 --> 00:15:53,340
Yeah.

400
00:15:53,340 --> 00:15:53,800
Oh, I see.

401
00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:54,060
Yep.

402
00:15:54,060 --> 00:15:54,280
Yep.

403
00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:54,460
Yep.

404
00:15:54,460 --> 00:15:58,880
There's a better way to disinfect, which is ozone or to clean up the smell.

405
00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:04,080
Now, have you, have you bought like a little UV wand and ran through there before?

406
00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:04,520
I haven't.

407
00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:06,780
Just as a little, little tricky test there.

408
00:16:06,780 --> 00:16:08,340
I'm thinking more for surfaces.

409
00:16:08,340 --> 00:16:08,940
That'd be nice.

410
00:16:08,940 --> 00:16:09,780
I'm curious about this.

411
00:16:09,860 --> 00:16:12,680
I think I mentioned before on the show that I wish I had something to stick a toothbrush

412
00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,800
in that would sort of UV blast it, but why not the whole freaking bathroom?

413
00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:16,420
Yeah.

414
00:16:16,420 --> 00:16:17,100
I love that.

415
00:16:17,100 --> 00:16:20,100
Just have a couple sensors to make sure no one's in there in any form.

416
00:16:20,100 --> 00:16:21,880
Or even if that's manual control.

417
00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:22,400
I don't know.

418
00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:23,260
I'm walking out here.

419
00:16:23,260 --> 00:16:24,780
I know no one's going in for the next couple of minutes.

420
00:16:24,780 --> 00:16:27,240
If the door opens again, then it flips off or something.

421
00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:27,800
Ooh.

422
00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:28,260
Yeah.

423
00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:34,280
They have old timey bathrooms, I think, where they had infrared light bulbs and you'd

424
00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:35,320
set a timer to it.

425
00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:36,180
Do you know what I'm talking about?

426
00:16:36,180 --> 00:16:36,400
Yeah.

427
00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:37,680
I've used those in like public.

428
00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:38,200
Yeah.

429
00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:38,920
Yep.

430
00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:39,680
That's what I want.

431
00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:40,780
A heat lamp, but it's UV.

432
00:16:40,780 --> 00:16:41,420
Yes.

433
00:16:41,420 --> 00:16:42,420
Swap out the bulb.

434
00:16:42,420 --> 00:16:43,040
Boom.

435
00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:43,660
There you go.

436
00:16:43,660 --> 00:16:44,620
But you have to install it.

437
00:16:44,620 --> 00:16:44,800
Oh.

438
00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:49,380
You could sell like, you know, an LED powered one.

439
00:16:49,380 --> 00:16:51,080
I don't know if LED and UV make sense.

440
00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,580
But like you stick it on the ceiling and boom.

441
00:16:53,580 --> 00:16:58,020
And I think a ton of people are like, with all this COVID conscious stuff, like,

442
00:16:58,300 --> 00:16:59,120
you throw it in there.

443
00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:03,100
And every time you go in and out of a bathroom, especially if you're hosting and maybe the

444
00:17:03,100 --> 00:17:05,800
guest bathroom, it's always there.

445
00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,880
Even like dishwashers even have UV lights now.

446
00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:09,980
The fancy ones.

447
00:17:09,980 --> 00:17:13,420
Like you open it up and it's just solid UV at all times.

448
00:17:13,420 --> 00:17:13,960
Yep.

449
00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:14,640
That's cool.

450
00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:15,240
It's crazy.

451
00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:17,240
No, I think that's really interesting.

452
00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:18,080
The UV part.

453
00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:18,960
But I don't know if it does.

454
00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,980
Does that work with like smells in the moment?

455
00:17:21,980 --> 00:17:23,640
Do you know the big old parts?

456
00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:24,880
I don't think so.

457
00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:25,900
With smells.

458
00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:30,100
We worked on a UV doorknob during COVID.

459
00:17:30,100 --> 00:17:30,940
That was pretty cool.

460
00:17:30,940 --> 00:17:35,300
Where like the doorknob would, after it's been used and it senses no one's around, it'll

461
00:17:35,300 --> 00:17:38,840
auto light up internally and the whole thing was translucent.

462
00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:43,320
And so it would clean itself off of, you know, whatever germs around the doorknob from someone

463
00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:43,840
touching it.

464
00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:48,860
We learned pretty quick that you need a lot of wattage of a UV light to kill things.

465
00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:52,140
So this light bulb would work, but it would be damn right.

466
00:17:52,140 --> 00:17:52,860
Oh, shoot.

467
00:17:52,860 --> 00:17:54,720
Which is fine.

468
00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:56,140
Just make sure no one's in the room.

469
00:17:56,140 --> 00:17:56,880
It's an empty room, right?

470
00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:57,380
Who cares?

471
00:17:57,380 --> 00:18:00,540
I think this is fixed by more theme music.

472
00:18:00,540 --> 00:18:01,720
Right.

473
00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:02,400
So.

474
00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:04,840
And this is just my thread.

475
00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:06,220
The song's on right now.

476
00:18:06,220 --> 00:18:07,900
The song's playing.

477
00:18:07,900 --> 00:18:09,980
3 a.m.

478
00:18:09,980 --> 00:18:11,840
And your bathroom's just bopping.

479
00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:12,980
Yeah.

480
00:18:12,980 --> 00:18:14,960
Maybe it even makes sense to run it like overnight.

481
00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:18,560
You have a cycle where it's programmed to be on for an hour from 3 to 4 a.m.

482
00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:19,440
You're not near it.

483
00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:20,080
Maybe it's not.

484
00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:23,940
I love the idea of the light bulb, though, that you just screw in, but you make it a smart

485
00:18:23,940 --> 00:18:24,260
bulb.

486
00:18:24,260 --> 00:18:26,560
So, you know, it's app controlled and everything.

487
00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:30,640
It still gets power all the time, but it turns on when it knows it's time to turn on.

488
00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:34,920
If there's a non-camera-based motion sensor in there that detects motion, then it doesn't

489
00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:35,260
turn on.

490
00:18:35,260 --> 00:18:37,660
Public bathrooms would love this.

491
00:18:37,660 --> 00:18:40,240
Every airport, you know, you throw that in there.

492
00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:40,380
Sure.

493
00:18:40,380 --> 00:18:40,800
Oh, yeah.

494
00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:45,460
Keeps the, yeah, every cruise ship, every cruise ship bathroom.

495
00:18:45,460 --> 00:18:47,120
Good Lord, they need that.

496
00:18:47,120 --> 00:18:47,920
I've got a pitch.

497
00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:52,220
What if it's a Roomba with a UV light strapped to the top of it?

498
00:18:52,220 --> 00:18:55,240
And that thing is going to be a Roomba.

499
00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:56,680
It's already got a speaker on there.

500
00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:58,960
The theme music rolls right in.

501
00:18:59,940 --> 00:19:04,580
If you were gone for the day, could you run your Roomba to both vacuum and disinfect

502
00:19:04,580 --> 00:19:06,720
with UV blasted all over the house?

503
00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:07,940
That probably is a lot of wattage.

504
00:19:07,940 --> 00:19:09,420
Like you said, you don't know if the battery would last.

505
00:19:09,420 --> 00:19:11,820
You'd have to climb up on the walls, right?

506
00:19:11,820 --> 00:19:13,060
Well, no, I'm blasting up.

507
00:19:13,060 --> 00:19:15,340
The thing comes off the top and it just like rotates.

508
00:19:15,340 --> 00:19:16,020
Yeah, that's police siren.

509
00:19:16,020 --> 00:19:16,380
Yeah.

510
00:19:16,380 --> 00:19:18,940
Police siren.

511
00:19:18,940 --> 00:19:22,840
Or, yeah, you could have an antenna that like slowly lifts up, you know, and it just

512
00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:26,680
a giant string of UV LEDs that go eight feet in the air.

513
00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:27,240
Boom.

514
00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:28,140
Yeah.

515
00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,160
Is this how we breed superbugs that are UV resistant?

516
00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:32,320
I don't know how that works.

517
00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:32,840
Mm-hmm.

518
00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:33,340
Probably.

519
00:19:33,340 --> 00:19:34,320
That's not our problem.

520
00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,400
That's an opportunity for UV2.

521
00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:37,120
Okay?

522
00:19:37,120 --> 00:19:38,640
The successor to UV2.

523
00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:40,560
UV2, double the wattage.

524
00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:42,360
It would become targeted suppression.

525
00:19:42,360 --> 00:19:43,420
We would locate.

526
00:19:43,420 --> 00:19:45,320
We would triangulate and locate.

527
00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:46,040
Lasers.

528
00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,040
It's a UV laser pointer.

529
00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:49,580
That's seeking and destroying.

530
00:19:49,580 --> 00:19:51,140
I like it.

531
00:19:51,360 --> 00:19:51,560
Yeah.

532
00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,260
Now, what I understand least is the ozone.

533
00:19:54,260 --> 00:19:55,720
How would ozone work?

534
00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:57,460
What is ozone exactly?

535
00:19:57,460 --> 00:19:58,260
Yeah.

536
00:19:58,260 --> 00:20:03,880
You add an extra oxygen molecule to O2 and it turns into a thing that becomes inert after

537
00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:05,260
a while and turns back to O2.

538
00:20:05,260 --> 00:20:10,900
But in its temporary O3 state, it smells like the smell of being at the base of a waterfall.

539
00:20:10,900 --> 00:20:12,340
It's like energy.

540
00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,020
It just smells really fresh and whatever.

541
00:20:15,020 --> 00:20:17,560
But it also is a potent disinfectant.

542
00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:18,520
It's not good to breathe.

543
00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:19,640
It's not great to be around.

544
00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:20,220
It kills everything.

545
00:20:20,220 --> 00:20:20,680
But it kills everything.

546
00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:21,460
That's what I was wondering.

547
00:20:21,460 --> 00:20:22,980
It's like bleach in the air.

548
00:20:22,980 --> 00:20:27,060
It's like bleaching the air, but the bleach goes away on its own naturally after a little

549
00:20:27,060 --> 00:20:27,300
bit.

550
00:20:27,300 --> 00:20:31,420
So people use them for like, oh man, my basement flooded and it smells musty down here now.

551
00:20:31,420 --> 00:20:33,160
So let me just blast it with ozone for a day.

552
00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:34,240
And now it smells better.

553
00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:35,200
It just kills everything.

554
00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,860
Melts plastic, I hear, or certain rubbers.

555
00:20:37,860 --> 00:20:38,380
Yeah.

556
00:20:38,380 --> 00:20:42,440
Gaskets, plastic, anything like that will start to melt over time.

557
00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:48,500
So I ran an ozone generator in my house while I was gone on vacation for two weeks and I

558
00:20:48,500 --> 00:20:54,380
left it on a little bit too long and it devulcanized the rubber and the cables in my room and stuff.

559
00:20:54,380 --> 00:20:56,400
It like, everything came kind of sticky.

560
00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:57,540
Not great.

561
00:20:57,540 --> 00:21:01,300
Wouldn't recommend running those things for longer than like a half hour.

562
00:21:01,300 --> 00:21:02,660
I bought like an industrial one.

563
00:21:02,660 --> 00:21:03,180
They're great.

564
00:21:03,180 --> 00:21:05,020
You can get it for like 50 bucks on Amazon.

565
00:21:05,020 --> 00:21:05,660
What?

566
00:21:05,660 --> 00:21:08,660
But maybe, you know, like run it for just a few minutes.

567
00:21:08,660 --> 00:21:10,760
Test the waters.

568
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:11,860
It's cool though.

569
00:21:11,860 --> 00:21:15,480
It's like a natural, yeah, like I said, bleach that sort of gets rid of itself.

570
00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,760
Then you have your bathroom fan that sucks it all out after.

571
00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:18,680
That's what I was thinking.

572
00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:22,180
You throw that in like a paper towel roller and like, or toilet paper roller.

573
00:21:22,180 --> 00:21:27,380
And now every time it spins, it just like releases a little bit of ozone every time, you know.

574
00:21:27,380 --> 00:21:28,260
A little bit.

575
00:21:28,260 --> 00:21:29,220
Or the flush.

576
00:21:29,220 --> 00:21:30,180
I don't want a little bit of ozone.

577
00:21:30,180 --> 00:21:31,160
Or the flush.

578
00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:32,060
A little bit of bleach in your hair.

579
00:21:32,060 --> 00:21:32,660
Just a little bit.

580
00:21:32,660 --> 00:21:32,960
Uh-huh.

581
00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:34,820
Like, just spritzes you with bleach.

582
00:21:34,820 --> 00:21:35,600
Just a little bit.

583
00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:36,080
10 seconds?

584
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:37,020
Is that too much?

585
00:21:37,020 --> 00:21:40,440
Is that, will that injure, I don't know, the impact of ozone.

586
00:21:40,780 --> 00:21:41,080
No.

587
00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:45,380
It's not great to breathe for long term, but maybe in little short bursts.

588
00:21:45,380 --> 00:21:45,900
I don't know.

589
00:21:45,900 --> 00:21:47,320
Just put a sticker on it.

590
00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:47,680
Yeah.

591
00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,600
Not our fault if absolved of all.

592
00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:51,540
Do not use, ever.

593
00:21:51,540 --> 00:21:52,620
Do not use.

594
00:21:52,620 --> 00:21:53,060
There you go.

595
00:21:53,060 --> 00:21:53,640
Do not use.

596
00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:54,080
And you're done.

597
00:21:54,180 --> 00:21:57,580
I think, what if this is a fleet of drones in your home?

598
00:21:57,580 --> 00:21:58,220
Okay.

599
00:21:58,220 --> 00:22:00,020
Like, a different form factor, right?

600
00:22:00,020 --> 00:22:00,360
Yes.

601
00:22:00,360 --> 00:22:03,140
You, like, hit a switch and it deploys, you know.

602
00:22:03,140 --> 00:22:04,160
And they fly.

603
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:05,880
They've got UV lights.

604
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:06,940
They've got ozone.

605
00:22:06,940 --> 00:22:08,700
They've got music.

606
00:22:08,700 --> 00:22:10,040
Most importantly.

607
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,780
Scramble the jets.

608
00:22:12,780 --> 00:22:15,520
You know, they're doing some UV blasting.

609
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:19,460
You've seen the home security drone rings, little.

610
00:22:19,460 --> 00:22:19,880
No.

611
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:21,440
They have a home security drone?

612
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,920
Amazon has a little thing that slots into a base.

613
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:24,960
It's got four propellers.

614
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,360
And it's like a stick with a helicopter up top.

615
00:22:27,360 --> 00:22:27,940
Exactly.

616
00:22:27,940 --> 00:22:30,120
Pull over in your car, listener, and check this thing out.

617
00:22:30,120 --> 00:22:31,380
It's from a couple years ago now.

618
00:22:31,380 --> 00:22:32,380
I don't know if they ever shipped it.

619
00:22:32,460 --> 00:22:34,620
But, yeah, you'd have a little base station in the corner.

620
00:22:34,620 --> 00:22:37,180
And then, while you're gone, you can say, do a lap.

621
00:22:37,180 --> 00:22:39,720
And it'll, like, rise and fly out of the base.

622
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:43,120
Go around the living room, dining room, kitchen, whatever.

623
00:22:43,120 --> 00:22:44,420
And then return back to the base.

624
00:22:44,420 --> 00:22:46,060
And you can have it, like, patrol.

625
00:22:46,060 --> 00:22:47,660
Oh, I want one.

626
00:22:47,660 --> 00:22:48,180
It's so dystopian.

627
00:22:48,180 --> 00:22:50,640
You want this, but also blasting disinfectant.

628
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:51,200
Exactly.

629
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:52,020
And music.

630
00:22:52,020 --> 00:22:53,060
And music.

631
00:22:53,060 --> 00:22:54,220
The music's important.

632
00:22:54,220 --> 00:22:55,320
This is the fifth element.

633
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:56,380
You guys ever see that movie?

634
00:22:56,380 --> 00:22:56,800
Yeah.

635
00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:57,680
Multipass.

636
00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,140
Gary Oldman has, like, a button on his desk that he hits.

637
00:23:00,260 --> 00:23:04,300
And all these little, the fleet of robots comes out and cleans up, you know, all his spills and everything going through.

638
00:23:04,300 --> 00:23:04,700
All right.

639
00:23:04,700 --> 00:23:05,400
I have one more thing.

640
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,580
That dehumidifier part.

641
00:23:07,580 --> 00:23:08,340
Oh, yeah.

642
00:23:08,340 --> 00:23:10,140
Like, tell me more about that.

643
00:23:10,140 --> 00:23:11,080
Because I, yeah.

644
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:16,220
You know, in the winter, sometimes, as a treat, I'll run a little space heater in the bathroom once in a while.

645
00:23:16,220 --> 00:23:17,380
It's not efficient.

646
00:23:17,380 --> 00:23:18,180
It's not great.

647
00:23:18,180 --> 00:23:21,520
But it's nice to have a really, really warm bathroom on a very cold day.

648
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:26,220
If you're running a fan, that's like an anti-space heater in the winter.

649
00:23:26,500 --> 00:23:35,440
It's sucking out all the warm air and putting the cold air from outside in the cracks of your house and stuff and the rest of your rooms in your house in the bathroom instead.

650
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:35,720
Right?

651
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:39,800
Instead, you keep that as a moderately closed room.

652
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:44,300
But you're taking the water out of the air and that process adds heat to the air.

653
00:23:44,300 --> 00:23:47,300
You are making it drier and so you dry off faster.

654
00:23:47,300 --> 00:23:49,080
And you are less humid.

655
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:50,520
You're not fogging up the mirror.

656
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,300
You're not making your bathroom walls all drippy and stuff.

657
00:23:53,300 --> 00:23:54,540
That's the dream.

658
00:23:54,540 --> 00:23:56,080
I don't know why they're not built in everywhere.

659
00:23:56,080 --> 00:24:08,920
In Los Angeles, they were required if there was, I don't know if it's the same here, but if there's no windows in the bathroom, it's humidity detection in the fan that will turn on and run until the humidity drops to prevent mold.

660
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:09,380
Just kidding.

661
00:24:09,380 --> 00:24:10,720
I couldn't, it took me forever.

662
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:14,980
I kept killing the circuit for it because I was like, this fan is broken.

663
00:24:14,980 --> 00:24:17,000
What the, like, we thought it was haunted.

664
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,240
We're like, what's going on?

665
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,680
And they were like, no, this is what it does.

666
00:24:20,820 --> 00:24:23,000
So they can detect humidity already.

667
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,980
You can even kick on adaptive, you know?

668
00:24:25,980 --> 00:24:26,540
Sure.

669
00:24:26,540 --> 00:24:27,640
Adaptive.

670
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,400
If it gets above X percent, then it just turns on and yeah.

671
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:34,260
In the summer, if it gets humid in there, then it'll just kind of blast hot air out.

672
00:24:34,260 --> 00:24:35,380
That's not super ideal.

673
00:24:35,380 --> 00:24:36,380
I guess that's fair.

674
00:24:36,380 --> 00:24:38,540
Maybe after a shower, it still would feel good.

675
00:24:38,540 --> 00:24:39,000
I don't know.

676
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:39,480
Yeah.

677
00:24:39,940 --> 00:24:43,300
I do think like there's a flushing mechanism attachment.

678
00:24:43,300 --> 00:24:52,220
Like the fact that we're not utilizing the flusher to do certain things, like whether that's smell related or like the shower, right?

679
00:24:52,220 --> 00:24:58,120
The shower and dehumidify is one thing, but like when you flush, it should, that should be smart.

680
00:24:58,120 --> 00:24:59,260
A smart flusher.

681
00:24:59,260 --> 00:24:59,820
Okay.

682
00:24:59,820 --> 00:25:02,740
Bluetooth to your fan.

683
00:25:03,420 --> 00:25:05,040
You can flush remotely.

684
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:09,000
Someone's in the bathroom too long.

685
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,040
You just give it a flush.

686
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:11,760
Kid didn't flush, you know?

687
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:18,720
All right, Scott, you're up next.

688
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:19,240
What do you got for us?

689
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:24,680
I have a very simple idea that I would love to share with Jimmy based on your coding background.

690
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,060
I was recently in Grand Rapids.

691
00:25:27,060 --> 00:25:34,840
I was recently coming from a bar at night and there was nothing more I wanted in the world than a food truck and I could not find one.

692
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:40,140
So I'm like, someone somewhere has created an app to find your nearest food truck.

693
00:25:40,140 --> 00:25:41,180
That must exist.

694
00:25:41,180 --> 00:25:46,360
And I look and there's like one or two ones and they all have one or two stars on the app store.

695
00:25:46,360 --> 00:25:49,700
And it's because none of them worked in the city you were in.

696
00:25:49,700 --> 00:25:56,700
They were just like, oh yeah, we don't do it for this city or not enough drivers signed up that we could track their location on this.

697
00:25:56,700 --> 00:26:01,040
And so I was getting really frustrated and I went to, I do what I do when I'm frustrated.

698
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:05,180
I went to chat GPT and I said, find me the closest food truck, just figure it out.

699
00:26:05,180 --> 00:26:13,100
And it started scraping the internet and it was, and it came back when like, oh, we found on this Twitter feed that there is a food truck in such and such location.

700
00:26:13,100 --> 00:26:15,620
We went there and I had amazing tacos.

701
00:26:15,620 --> 00:26:16,480
Are you kidding me?

702
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:16,940
What?

703
00:26:16,940 --> 00:26:17,400
That worked?

704
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:17,860
Whoa.

705
00:26:17,860 --> 00:26:18,480
Yes.

706
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:19,560
Wow.

707
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:20,900
It blew my mind.

708
00:26:20,900 --> 00:26:27,980
And now I'm like, well, okay, let's just make a very simple app now that uses chat GPT or something.

709
00:26:28,300 --> 00:26:30,440
And I asked chat GPT later.

710
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:35,120
I'm like, what other ways could you track food trucks without anyone having inputs to it?

711
00:26:35,120 --> 00:26:39,640
And without the food truck people being like, I have to put my location or update it all the time.

712
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:55,220
And it was like, oh, well just look at live updates of Venmo or something, or look at live updates on Twitter or just scrape past, you know, Google trends and just come up with an analysis of where we think the most likely spot this food truck will be and consolidate it.

713
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:57,180
That's the entire idea.

714
00:26:57,180 --> 00:26:57,660
Interesting.

715
00:26:57,660 --> 00:26:59,760
Are there other ways to track a food truck?

716
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:00,400
Crowdsourcing.

717
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:01,780
Crowdsourcing is a good one.

718
00:27:01,780 --> 00:27:04,660
The thing about crowdsourcing, like ways for food trucks.

719
00:27:04,660 --> 00:27:17,480
It's a good thought, but one of the apps that I tried from that had that and it was just like, you know, you're an app with less than a thousand downloads and how many people are going to actually get this in your city?

720
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:22,360
You load it up and it was like, you know, 38 days ago, there was one here and that's not helpful.

721
00:27:22,360 --> 00:27:22,900
Yeah.

722
00:27:22,900 --> 00:27:28,540
Like in ways when you load it up and it's like the gas price is last updated in February and it's June.

723
00:27:28,540 --> 00:27:29,720
You're like, oh, okay.

724
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:30,820
Yeah.

725
00:27:30,820 --> 00:27:35,160
This is a tricky one though, because it's like very real time and very spontaneous.

726
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,460
It's like a common, it's both sides are spontaneous.

727
00:27:38,460 --> 00:27:41,380
Like you're not going to the same places nor the food trucks.

728
00:27:41,380 --> 00:27:43,000
But it's so needed.

729
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,480
The only way I've ever found out about a food truck is by happenstance.

730
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:47,140
Yep.

731
00:27:47,140 --> 00:27:49,520
You're just driving by and like, oh my God, there's bots over there.

732
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:50,060
Or it's social media.

733
00:27:50,060 --> 00:27:50,960
That's what I was going to say.

734
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:52,140
Oh, I guess for some reason it popped up.

735
00:27:52,140 --> 00:27:52,340
Yeah.

736
00:27:52,340 --> 00:27:54,480
Instagram is like a hundred percent.

737
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:55,100
Yeah.

738
00:27:55,100 --> 00:28:09,340
I mean, what I would probably do, although Instagram is pretty against bots, I would do hyper local and I would like hire one person to watch Instagram accounts for food trucks in Grand Rapids and add to them.

739
00:28:09,340 --> 00:28:12,040
But then I would have a scraper that's grabbing where they are.

740
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:18,160
That's logging into Instagram, checking out where they are that day and then updating live.

741
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,380
But there isn't API.

742
00:28:20,380 --> 00:28:21,600
For Instagram?

743
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,460
But I don't know what they give you.

744
00:28:23,460 --> 00:28:23,960
I know.

745
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,000
That's Facebook.

746
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:26,960
I generally assume nothing.

747
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,580
They clamped it down pretty bad after the...

748
00:28:29,580 --> 00:28:31,780
Cambridge Analytica.

749
00:28:31,780 --> 00:28:32,260
Yes.

750
00:28:32,260 --> 00:28:32,620
Thank you.

751
00:28:32,620 --> 00:28:33,000
Yeah.

752
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:34,540
Oh, I didn't even think about that.

753
00:28:34,540 --> 00:28:35,420
It's like Cambria.

754
00:28:35,420 --> 00:28:35,980
Cambria.

755
00:28:35,980 --> 00:28:36,660
That's not right.

756
00:28:36,660 --> 00:28:37,320
That's a font.

757
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:37,720
Yeah.

758
00:28:37,940 --> 00:28:40,700
They used to be pretty open.

759
00:28:40,700 --> 00:28:41,200
Yeah.

760
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,900
They were like using data to manipulate people somehow.

761
00:28:44,900 --> 00:28:45,800
I don't know.

762
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,160
Dude, this is tough.

763
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:47,860
Yeah.

764
00:28:47,860 --> 00:28:48,480
I like it.

765
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:48,880
Food trucks.

766
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,800
You need like its own app, like a food truck, like a Yelp for food truck.

767
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:59,940
Like you need to figure out how to get the food truck to want to publish their hours, their location, their menu.

768
00:28:59,940 --> 00:29:00,860
That's the trouble though.

769
00:29:00,860 --> 00:29:01,940
That's what they're not doing.

770
00:29:01,940 --> 00:29:02,720
People have tried that.

771
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:10,000
There's so many apps out there and all of that, the highest app I saw was rated like 2.9 on it because everyone was trying some variation.

772
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:26,000
It sounds like we're on the advent of large language models being able to do this, but I don't know, like if all of the selection of food trucks in the area is accessible to the bot in the way that you experienced, or if that was like everyone who tried it was able to find that one food truck.

773
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,700
I probably got lucky.

774
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:35,140
Like some guy happened to post on Twitter or maybe he's just in the same spot every week and it was able to find like, oh yeah, this is really lucky.

775
00:29:35,140 --> 00:29:37,980
But it happened in my inebriated state.

776
00:29:37,980 --> 00:29:39,000
It was fantastic.

777
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,260
That is incredible.

778
00:29:40,260 --> 00:29:48,260
Now, one thing I'm thinking about is kind of a Trojan horse approach would be you build software for managing food trucks specifically.

779
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:55,860
Like you build toast for food trucks and you build that in and then that's your way in.

780
00:29:55,860 --> 00:29:57,360
Maybe that's it.

781
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:01,120
Like you connect to all the POS systems that they're operating with.

782
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:01,920
That's what I was thinking.

783
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:02,600
Yeah.

784
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:03,260
Yeah.

785
00:30:03,260 --> 00:30:06,920
They almost all use either Square or Clover or one of those few ones.

786
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:07,220
Yeah.

787
00:30:07,220 --> 00:30:07,460
Yeah.

788
00:30:07,460 --> 00:30:08,120
That's a good thought.

789
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:09,640
These guys were using Square.

790
00:30:10,020 --> 00:30:16,980
How could you possibly get a FinTech place to like agree to give you all that data?

791
00:30:16,980 --> 00:30:17,640
That's tough.

792
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:18,220
I know.

793
00:30:18,220 --> 00:30:22,460
This almost seems like a feature that Square or Clover or whoever would want to build.

794
00:30:22,460 --> 00:30:24,040
They come out with the app, you know?

795
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:24,600
Yeah.

796
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,480
Why do you think this hasn't been built?

797
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:31,220
Because one of the things I'm thinking about is like that's the beauty of the food truck is that uncertainty.

798
00:30:31,220 --> 00:30:33,920
It's like the where is it going to be?

799
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:35,520
That's kind of the fun in it.

800
00:30:35,860 --> 00:30:41,400
So is that why maybe people like that and they haven't wanted to bring certainty to it?

801
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:42,340
Hmm.

802
00:30:42,340 --> 00:30:42,900
I don't know.

803
00:30:42,900 --> 00:30:46,340
Don't download Scott's cool new app if you want to be uncertain about it.

804
00:30:46,340 --> 00:30:47,380
Yeah.

805
00:30:47,380 --> 00:30:47,640
Maybe.

806
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:48,200
I don't know.

807
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:49,600
That is kind of part of the charm.

808
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,220
Like, oh, they're in our area for the first time in a while.

809
00:30:52,220 --> 00:30:52,700
How neat.

810
00:30:52,700 --> 00:30:54,360
You develop favorites and stuff.

811
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:55,020
I'm surprised.

812
00:30:55,020 --> 00:30:57,920
You can just hire a bunch of people to hide air tags on them.

813
00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:58,780
That's another.

814
00:30:58,780 --> 00:30:59,140
Yeah.

815
00:30:59,140 --> 00:31:03,100
That could be it.

816
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,880
You just send it to every food truck in the nation.

817
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:06,360
Oh.

818
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:11,900
You could just request an air tag from us and we'll send you a free one or something and put

819
00:31:11,900 --> 00:31:12,880
it on your nearest air food truck.

820
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:13,840
Or you just send it to them.

821
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,700
Just like next door.

822
00:31:15,700 --> 00:31:18,480
You know, they send you postcards in the mail when they first started.

823
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,200
You're just like, I didn't want this postcard.

824
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,180
Your neighbor invited you, though.

825
00:31:22,180 --> 00:31:24,160
Oh, thanks, neighbor.

826
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,080
Now I'm going to do it because they're talking about me.

827
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:26,580
You know?

828
00:31:26,580 --> 00:31:27,580
Yeah.

829
00:31:27,580 --> 00:31:30,020
But maybe that's it.

830
00:31:30,020 --> 00:31:30,760
That's it.

831
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,260
Like you just throw the air tag or a version of that.

832
00:31:33,260 --> 00:31:38,440
And the business exchange is if you put this somewhere in your truck, then we promise to

833
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,000
generate more, you know, people to you.

834
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:41,700
We'll get the traffic.

835
00:31:41,700 --> 00:31:41,940
Yeah.

836
00:31:41,940 --> 00:31:43,200
We'll get traffic for free.

837
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:44,420
We'll be the middleman.

838
00:31:44,420 --> 00:31:45,660
I like that.

839
00:31:45,660 --> 00:31:46,620
Yeah.

840
00:31:46,620 --> 00:31:47,580
That makes sense.

841
00:31:47,580 --> 00:31:48,380
That's interesting.

842
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:53,640
I think food truck owners don't, they want more sales, like in the moment when they're

843
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:53,960
open.

844
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:58,540
So I don't know if it's like, there is a little bit of charm to it, but also like as a food

845
00:31:58,540 --> 00:32:00,900
truck owner, I'm like, I don't want to be invisible.

846
00:32:00,900 --> 00:32:01,340
Right?

847
00:32:01,340 --> 00:32:02,180
I don't think they do.

848
00:32:02,180 --> 00:32:05,600
So how can you as the service tell if they're open or not?

849
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:06,140
Yeah.

850
00:32:06,140 --> 00:32:06,980
It's kind of hard.

851
00:32:06,980 --> 00:32:07,980
Like, okay.

852
00:32:07,980 --> 00:32:08,940
The food truck's here now.

853
00:32:08,940 --> 00:32:09,460
Oh shit.

854
00:32:09,460 --> 00:32:10,560
That's just their driveway.

855
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:11,020
Whoops.

856
00:32:11,380 --> 00:32:13,720
Is there an accelerometer in these?

857
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:14,020
Yeah.

858
00:32:14,020 --> 00:32:14,780
And AirTags?

859
00:32:14,780 --> 00:32:15,420
Do what?

860
00:32:15,420 --> 00:32:16,120
Do you like ping that?

861
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,040
Is there an accelerometer in an AirTag?

862
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,140
Like, can you ping like, oh, there's been movement in the last X amount of time?

863
00:32:21,140 --> 00:32:24,480
We just build our own, you know, tile or Bluetooth LE.

864
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:25,040
Of course.

865
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:25,660
Yeah.

866
00:32:25,660 --> 00:32:27,000
Tile would jump on this.

867
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:28,060
They need money, don't they?

868
00:32:28,060 --> 00:32:28,300
After.

869
00:32:28,300 --> 00:32:29,600
They do need money.

870
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:30,280
They're dying.

871
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:31,080
Yeah.

872
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,200
Or Google just opened up their equivalent to the find my network.

873
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,020
There's got to be some way to attach on to that.

874
00:32:37,020 --> 00:32:37,240
Yeah.

875
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:41,080
You could make your own Bluetooth LE accessory and, you know, use that to get the data

876
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,320
or something like Lora, a long range radio.

877
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,900
There's, there's options for getting the data out.

878
00:32:45,900 --> 00:32:50,200
But yeah, I think if you're going to the business and you're saying we will take care of making

879
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:54,380
the tracker and keeping track of where you are, you press the button.

880
00:32:54,380 --> 00:32:58,080
Maybe you even sell it as like one of those LED neon open signs.

881
00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:59,500
We'll give that to you for free.

882
00:32:59,500 --> 00:33:02,940
Cause when they press open on it, then it's broadcasting where they are.

883
00:33:02,940 --> 00:33:03,980
That's a good.

884
00:33:03,980 --> 00:33:04,300
Yeah.

885
00:33:04,300 --> 00:33:04,960
That's it.

886
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,380
Oh, that's really smart.

887
00:33:07,380 --> 00:33:10,740
Some inherent value in, you have to like,

888
00:33:10,780 --> 00:33:12,760
every food truck starts buying whatever.

889
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:13,820
And guess what?

890
00:33:13,820 --> 00:33:14,920
There's also a tracker.

891
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:15,320
Yeah.

892
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:15,920
Uh-huh.

893
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:17,540
You, I like that.

894
00:33:17,540 --> 00:33:18,000
Yeah.

895
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:22,260
Like you talk to some food distributor company that sell like that.

896
00:33:22,260 --> 00:33:24,600
Every food truck buys their paper cups from or shit.

897
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:24,800
Right.

898
00:33:25,060 --> 00:33:30,160
And you all of a sudden are selling like little, you sell the network through that app.

899
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,800
It's got the network effect problem of social media places where you cut, you want to get

900
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:38,820
enough food trucks in there and enough people using it to make it like valuable.

901
00:33:38,820 --> 00:33:42,380
And I don't know how you like, you jumpstart that with a bunch of VC money.

902
00:33:42,380 --> 00:33:46,460
You somehow make the accessory and give it to them for cheaper free is kind of the way in,

903
00:33:46,460 --> 00:33:46,840
I think.

904
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,440
Well, or you just use Instagram.

905
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,320
Like maybe you don't have a front end at first.

906
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:56,180
Maybe it's just Instagram and you just post faster than anyone else.

907
00:33:56,180 --> 00:34:00,200
And then you just build up, you're like food trucks and you do it hyper local.

908
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,120
You're like food trucks for Grand Rapids.

909
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:03,400
That's your page.

910
00:34:03,700 --> 00:34:04,140
Yeah.

911
00:34:04,140 --> 00:34:05,820
And you beat everyone else to it.

912
00:34:05,820 --> 00:34:08,860
You could do bots to do pretty much all of this too.

913
00:34:08,860 --> 00:34:09,500
That's a good idea.

914
00:34:09,500 --> 00:34:15,320
Even the, even the approaching the food truck owner being like, find food truck on Google

915
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:20,600
anywhere in this area, send, find their email, send them this pre-made email with explanation.

916
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:21,140
Yep.

917
00:34:21,140 --> 00:34:22,460
That makes sense.

918
00:34:22,460 --> 00:34:23,620
I would use this all the time.

919
00:34:23,620 --> 00:34:29,000
There's, we love it when there's one or two like craft fair of the summer type events

920
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:29,640
in our area.

921
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,480
And we go there literally just for the food trucks and we leave.

922
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:37,280
Like it's so much fun to see like, oh, I think they were at the other place last year.

923
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:38,260
I remember that one.

924
00:34:38,260 --> 00:34:40,800
They had really good pizza that one time or whatever.

925
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:45,380
And then once in a great while, someone will send me a link to some Facebook post that I

926
00:34:45,380 --> 00:34:46,460
never would have seen on my own.

927
00:34:46,460 --> 00:34:48,600
That's like, Hey, here's a really cool, whatever truck.

928
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:53,140
And you never, you never like intentionally figure out where food trucks are.

929
00:34:53,140 --> 00:34:55,160
It seems like I would totally use your app.

930
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:56,060
I don't know.

931
00:34:56,060 --> 00:35:01,900
Maybe you plug this into the POS system, like whatever, like take the outlet that they're using

932
00:35:01,900 --> 00:35:05,260
to charge that device or like the USB stick.

933
00:35:05,260 --> 00:35:08,520
And now it connects to the wifi network and all that other stuff.

934
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,020
You attach it to the device as an add-on.

935
00:35:11,180 --> 00:35:16,840
And now it's like, you press the beacon and then it turns it on, you know?

936
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,220
It all comes back to your beacon app.

937
00:35:19,220 --> 00:35:20,900
That's so many uses for that Russell.

938
00:35:20,900 --> 00:35:21,600
The beacons are lit.

939
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,240
I do want to move one last thing on it.

940
00:35:23,240 --> 00:35:26,200
Is there any other non-hardware solution to this?

941
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:26,900
Because this is...

942
00:35:26,900 --> 00:35:26,920
I see.

943
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,640
I'm all for the hardware section, but is there some way that we could...

944
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:36,660
Some database that we could be scraping, whether that's Instagram, Venmo, whatever.

945
00:35:36,660 --> 00:35:37,760
I don't know.

946
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:38,920
Public street cameras.

947
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:39,600
Like...

948
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:40,480
Does the...

949
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:41,080
Parking meters?

950
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,800
What's the government body that gives out like dining licenses?

951
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:49,540
Do they have to get certified by somebody so that you at least know that they exist to start?

952
00:35:49,540 --> 00:35:50,320
I'm sure you do.

953
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,120
You have to have a license to operate from the local...

954
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,820
I'm forgetting the name of the agency that does this, but whoever comes in and does health

955
00:35:56,820 --> 00:36:01,240
inspections and stuff probably has at least a list of what active food trucks there are.

956
00:36:01,240 --> 00:36:04,780
And then it's up to you to figure out, okay, are they still operating today?

957
00:36:04,780 --> 00:36:06,500
Well, they have to renew it every X years.

958
00:36:06,500 --> 00:36:09,120
So based off of that, you know that they exist somewhere.

959
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:13,960
If they have their phone number attached to that, Leo, you could do the Google thing.

960
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:18,140
Well, you know how Google now can call and make a reservation for you at a restaurant?

961
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,980
It was amazing and they discontinued it, but yes.

962
00:36:20,980 --> 00:36:22,120
What?

963
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:22,680
I know.

964
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:23,160
Duplex.

965
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:30,740
What if every day you had all the food trucks and you called all of them and asked, are you

966
00:36:30,740 --> 00:36:32,320
open today and where are you?

967
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,560
The latest chat GPT model can totally do that.

968
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:35,940
It can hold the call of...

969
00:36:35,940 --> 00:36:36,580
It's just simply...

970
00:36:36,580 --> 00:36:37,920
You have the database of phone numbers.

971
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,440
I bet the phone numbers in that database that you're talking about.

972
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:41,140
Oh, that's exciting.

973
00:36:41,140 --> 00:36:42,480
So then you have a call.

974
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,220
Oh, they'd get so annoyed so quick.

975
00:36:44,220 --> 00:36:45,820
Mass spam all 100 messages.

976
00:36:45,820 --> 00:36:46,860
Hey, are you guys open today?

977
00:36:46,860 --> 00:36:47,080
Cool.

978
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:47,580
Where are you?

979
00:36:47,580 --> 00:36:47,900
Thanks.

980
00:36:47,900 --> 00:36:48,240
Bye.

981
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:49,960
And you've recorded and transcribed that.

982
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:50,620
That's it.

983
00:36:50,620 --> 00:36:53,400
I'm sure they get a call every day too.

984
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:53,800
That's brilliant.

985
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:57,060
With that exact same question multiple times a day.

986
00:36:57,060 --> 00:36:57,620
So, I mean...

987
00:36:57,620 --> 00:36:57,980
Yes.

988
00:36:57,980 --> 00:37:03,680
You'll actually be saving them time and money and issues if they just pick up their phone

989
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:04,620
that one time.

990
00:37:04,620 --> 00:37:05,520
That might be...

991
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:06,120
You don't even need to know.

992
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:06,800
Yep.

993
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:07,660
That's it.

994
00:37:07,660 --> 00:37:10,560
And you can keep calling and calling and make sure it's not voicemail.

995
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,020
And eventually...

996
00:37:12,020 --> 00:37:12,660
I love that.

997
00:37:12,660 --> 00:37:13,220
There you go.

998
00:37:13,220 --> 00:37:13,940
Every day.

999
00:37:13,940 --> 00:37:15,860
100,000 minutes.

1000
00:37:15,860 --> 00:37:18,340
And I'm sure the answer would be like, oh yeah.

1001
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:19,940
We're not operating until next Tuesday.

1002
00:37:19,940 --> 00:37:22,180
And you just like note that in your database.

1003
00:37:22,180 --> 00:37:23,900
And now you don't call them tomorrow.

1004
00:37:23,900 --> 00:37:24,940
And yeah, totally.

1005
00:37:24,940 --> 00:37:25,920
That's exciting.

1006
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:26,940
That makes me want to build that.

1007
00:37:26,940 --> 00:37:28,000
That's so cool.

1008
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:32,060
The automated caller scraper real-time database.

1009
00:37:32,060 --> 00:37:33,700
How much would that cost a day though?

1010
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,240
A lot of money.

1011
00:37:35,240 --> 00:37:35,860
A lot of money.

1012
00:37:35,860 --> 00:37:39,680
I mean, chat GPT is expensive for their API, but they all are right now.

1013
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:40,940
Hopefully that would go down in price.

1014
00:37:40,940 --> 00:37:43,380
Eventually we'll get to the point where you can run it on your own hardware.

1015
00:37:43,380 --> 00:37:43,960
100%.

1016
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:48,200
You know, you have a NVIDIA GPU sitting at home that's just calling people all day.

1017
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:48,860
Yeah.

1018
00:37:48,860 --> 00:37:50,120
We just got to be ready for it.

1019
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,860
You don't even need, like, AI to do this.

1020
00:37:52,860 --> 00:37:54,900
You can just have a pre-recorded message.

1021
00:37:54,900 --> 00:37:55,540
Hi.

1022
00:37:55,540 --> 00:37:56,500
What is...

1023
00:37:56,500 --> 00:37:57,540
Have Lenny call him.

1024
00:37:57,540 --> 00:37:57,940
Yes.

1025
00:37:58,720 --> 00:37:59,020
Hi.

1026
00:37:59,020 --> 00:38:01,500
I love you, food truck guy.

1027
00:38:01,500 --> 00:38:03,360
When are you open next?

1028
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,320
Honestly, just pre-record yourself.

1029
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:06,440
Hey, real quick.

1030
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:07,980
When are you open and where are you located?

1031
00:38:07,980 --> 00:38:09,260
Just, that's it.

1032
00:38:09,260 --> 00:38:11,980
They get that same person every day.

1033
00:38:11,980 --> 00:38:14,580
This guy's an idiot.

1034
00:38:14,580 --> 00:38:15,420
Stop calling me!

1035
00:38:15,420 --> 00:38:17,840
Hey, I noticed you call me every...

1036
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:19,800
Like, they try to have a conversation with you.

1037
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,180
And they're like, hey, you know, thanks for being a regular caller.

1038
00:38:22,180 --> 00:38:23,920
Like, let me get to know you.

1039
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:24,880
I'd love to get you a discount.

1040
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:25,660
Bye.

1041
00:38:25,660 --> 00:38:26,160
Thanks, bye.

1042
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:27,740
Well, thank you.

1043
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:28,840
Flavor Wheels.

1044
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:29,900
We appreciate it.

1045
00:38:29,900 --> 00:38:31,660
It's like the It's Lenny thing.

1046
00:38:31,660 --> 00:38:37,940
You have to have, like, a bank of pre-recorded messages where it picks from the...

1047
00:38:37,940 --> 00:38:38,660
Yeah, there you go.

1048
00:38:38,660 --> 00:38:39,880
You know, we were talking about trackers.

1049
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:41,520
They already have a phone on them.

1050
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:42,280
That's a tracker.

1051
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,220
So, if we could download an app that...

1052
00:38:45,220 --> 00:38:45,560
Yeah.

1053
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:46,660
I mean, that's tough.

1054
00:38:46,660 --> 00:38:47,600
But it's like...

1055
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:51,620
That was one of the other apps that I saw in there where it's like, oh, yeah, food truck

1056
00:38:51,620 --> 00:38:53,120
owners sign up for this one.

1057
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:53,640
Oh, well, yeah.

1058
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:55,300
You can ping your location.

1059
00:38:55,300 --> 00:38:55,700
Yeah.

1060
00:38:55,700 --> 00:38:56,600
I was getting really frustrated.

1061
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:57,420
It seemed like a good idea.

1062
00:38:57,420 --> 00:38:58,880
It must be a lot of work.

1063
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,060
It must be too much work for a food truck owner.

1064
00:39:01,060 --> 00:39:01,560
I guess.

1065
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:01,940
Yeah.

1066
00:39:01,940 --> 00:39:03,840
Or it's just the network effects.

1067
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:07,640
You know, they used it for a week and they shouted into the void and there weren't enough

1068
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:08,020
users.

1069
00:39:08,020 --> 00:39:10,860
And then there were no users because there's no food trucks on it.

1070
00:39:10,860 --> 00:39:11,580
Lost interest.

1071
00:39:11,580 --> 00:39:12,820
You got to kickstart that somehow.

1072
00:39:12,820 --> 00:39:13,400
Yeah.

1073
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:14,680
I think the problem is the front end.

1074
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:15,820
You don't build...

1075
00:39:15,820 --> 00:39:17,360
The front end is Instagram.

1076
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,840
Like, why try to build something?

1077
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:24,540
You just have an Instagram page that just auto-updates like a bot with locations.

1078
00:39:24,540 --> 00:39:26,040
Super simple.

1079
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,020
And then that's where you build your network effect.

1080
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:33,240
Like, once everybody's following your Instagram, you release the app for Grand Rapids, for

1081
00:39:33,240 --> 00:39:37,720
whatever, Chicago, New York, and you just get all these different cities.

1082
00:39:37,720 --> 00:39:38,620
You need like...

1083
00:39:38,620 --> 00:39:40,200
People have such app fatigue, though.

1084
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:41,060
Nobody wants to...

1085
00:39:41,060 --> 00:39:41,660
Like, would you...

1086
00:39:41,660 --> 00:39:45,220
If I said to you, hey, dude, you got to download this app so you can find out where the food truck

1087
00:39:45,220 --> 00:39:45,500
is.

1088
00:39:45,500 --> 00:39:46,500
Like, everyone's like, no.

1089
00:39:46,500 --> 00:39:46,720
No.

1090
00:39:46,720 --> 00:39:48,080
I don't want to download another app.

1091
00:39:48,180 --> 00:39:53,180
You just follow that app then, and then if you want to download the app in the bio,

1092
00:39:53,180 --> 00:39:54,960
you can, right?

1093
00:39:54,960 --> 00:40:00,500
So, it starts off as a Twitter feed, Instagram feed, and then eventually you're like, you

1094
00:40:00,500 --> 00:40:00,900
know what?

1095
00:40:00,900 --> 00:40:01,800
I'm going to bite the bullet.

1096
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,520
I'm loving this feed every day.

1097
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:05,280
They update it.

1098
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:06,020
It's a more better...

1099
00:40:06,020 --> 00:40:07,460
It's a better experience than Instagram.

1100
00:40:07,460 --> 00:40:09,120
Or it's just a web app.

1101
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:13,740
I mean, the people who make their personal landing pages, like, you know, this is what

1102
00:40:13,740 --> 00:40:14,480
our menu is.

1103
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,040
This is what whatever is.

1104
00:40:16,180 --> 00:40:20,380
And also, it's live updated with our companion app that we installed that keeps track of

1105
00:40:20,380 --> 00:40:20,880
where we are.

1106
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:25,660
You almost want to have it as, like, a widget on the company's website if they're using Squarespace

1107
00:40:25,660 --> 00:40:26,300
or whatever.

1108
00:40:26,300 --> 00:40:32,100
And, like, one of the things on the homepage is their tracker app's current location for

1109
00:40:32,100 --> 00:40:32,720
the day, you know?

1110
00:40:32,720 --> 00:40:36,500
Oh, yeah.

1111
00:40:36,500 --> 00:40:38,460
All right, Jimmy.

1112
00:40:38,460 --> 00:40:39,900
What have you brought us this week?

1113
00:40:39,900 --> 00:40:42,720
I'm bringing restaurant Tinder, okay?

1114
00:40:43,140 --> 00:40:48,780
Like, I'm done looking through maps and zooming in, zooming out and searching things.

1115
00:40:48,780 --> 00:40:50,540
I want to swipe, okay?

1116
00:40:50,540 --> 00:40:52,020
I want to swipe left and right.

1117
00:40:52,020 --> 00:40:56,660
I want my friends to swipe with me and then we land on the place we're going that night.

1118
00:40:56,660 --> 00:40:58,320
I'm tired of sending three options.

1119
00:40:58,320 --> 00:40:59,740
I'm done with it.

1120
00:40:59,740 --> 00:41:03,020
I want quick, easy, and multiplayer.

1121
00:41:03,020 --> 00:41:03,420
Amazing.

1122
00:41:03,420 --> 00:41:04,000
Yep.

1123
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:05,600
And multiplayer, yes.

1124
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:10,420
First, I thought you meant two restaurants finding each other to partner up or something,

1125
00:41:10,420 --> 00:41:11,340
but that's way better.

1126
00:41:11,340 --> 00:41:16,600
There was WTFSIGTE.com.

1127
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:18,340
Where the fuck should I go to eat.com?

1128
00:41:18,340 --> 00:41:19,920
That shuddered a while back.

1129
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,320
But you'd load it up and it would just say, you are here.

1130
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:23,820
Here is a nearby place.

1131
00:41:23,820 --> 00:41:24,480
Yes or no?

1132
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:25,680
And you could say, like, no.

1133
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:27,520
And it would find you another place and find another place.

1134
00:41:27,720 --> 00:41:30,540
That was basically the Tinder UI now that I think about it.

1135
00:41:30,540 --> 00:41:31,120
A hundred percent.

1136
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:31,560
Yep.

1137
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,200
I need this for, like, with my wife, though.

1138
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,340
You know, I love your idea of we both have our options.

1139
00:41:37,340 --> 00:41:41,720
And, like, we just swipe on our own thing and then it shows the combined results afterwards.

1140
00:41:41,720 --> 00:41:44,940
And if there's some overlap and what the closest overlap is.

1141
00:41:44,940 --> 00:41:50,340
This is what, this started as Neil and I, we had hundreds of ideas for startups.

1142
00:41:50,340 --> 00:41:53,900
And we had a podcast where we'd talk about them and we couldn't pick.

1143
00:41:53,900 --> 00:41:55,060
And so we would.

1144
00:41:55,060 --> 00:41:57,180
Don't talk about other podcasts on this one.

1145
00:41:57,300 --> 00:41:57,860
No, yes.

1146
00:41:57,860 --> 00:41:59,000
I'm just kidding.

1147
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:00,460
We would swipe.

1148
00:42:00,460 --> 00:42:01,740
We would both swipe.

1149
00:42:01,740 --> 00:42:03,780
It was literally the same thing, Scotty, where we'd both swipe.

1150
00:42:03,780 --> 00:42:05,740
And then it would be, like, here's each of your top three.

1151
00:42:05,740 --> 00:42:06,880
And, okay.

1152
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:08,580
And then we'd talk and pick from there.

1153
00:42:08,580 --> 00:42:09,120
That's great.

1154
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:09,660
So much easier.

1155
00:42:09,660 --> 00:42:10,960
What did you use for that?

1156
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:12,180
I built it.

1157
00:42:12,180 --> 00:42:14,260
So it was a terrible web app.

1158
00:42:14,260 --> 00:42:15,280
It was disgusting.

1159
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:15,980
But, yeah.

1160
00:42:15,980 --> 00:42:17,320
So I've tried to build this.

1161
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,520
I actually have built some of this.

1162
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,040
But not as a useful app.

1163
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,260
Pulling local restaurant info.

1164
00:42:24,260 --> 00:42:24,840
Are you doing?

1165
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:26,200
Yeah, that's the part, right?

1166
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:26,840
Yeah.

1167
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,780
So Google has an API where they do have restaurants.

1168
00:42:30,780 --> 00:42:31,900
So you can snack from that.

1169
00:42:31,900 --> 00:42:33,060
Yelp also has one.

1170
00:42:33,060 --> 00:42:35,140
Oh, you get ratings and all that.

1171
00:42:35,140 --> 00:42:35,560
Yeah.

1172
00:42:36,820 --> 00:42:40,320
And then I really like the pay-to-play model for the restaurants is, like, hey.

1173
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:41,880
Like, just like a dating app.

1174
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:45,040
Literally the same mechanics where it's, like, you want to be featured at the top?

1175
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:46,300
You know, give us a little dough.

1176
00:42:46,300 --> 00:42:47,840
And then we'll put you up at the top.

1177
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:48,600
We'll take our vig.

1178
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,280
And you'll be the first one they see.

1179
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:53,260
5% more chance to show up in someone's feeds or whatever.

1180
00:42:53,260 --> 00:42:53,580
Yeah.

1181
00:42:53,580 --> 00:42:53,880
Uh-huh.

1182
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:54,320
Uh-huh.

1183
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,000
First swipe, you know?

1184
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:56,900
Like, yeah.

1185
00:42:56,900 --> 00:42:57,640
You could change.

1186
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:58,000
Top of the pile.

1187
00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:58,840
Yes.

1188
00:42:58,840 --> 00:42:59,840
You could make this, too.

1189
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:01,220
You don't have to do left or right.

1190
00:43:01,220 --> 00:43:03,260
You could do a ranking model, right?

1191
00:43:03,500 --> 00:43:07,800
Where it's, like, you have one that's stationary and you're, like, does it beat this?

1192
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:08,380
No.

1193
00:43:08,380 --> 00:43:09,040
Yes.

1194
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:10,180
Like, do you want sushi?

1195
00:43:10,180 --> 00:43:11,100
No.

1196
00:43:11,100 --> 00:43:12,400
And you keep it.

1197
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,800
You keep that there as, like, first place.

1198
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:16,920
And then you keep trying to beat it.

1199
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:18,020
So it's, like, a bracket.

1200
00:43:18,020 --> 00:43:18,920
A bracket.

1201
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:19,660
March Madness.

1202
00:43:19,660 --> 00:43:20,480
Yes.

1203
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,660
Like, you start with your favorite.

1204
00:43:22,660 --> 00:43:24,740
And it's, like, do you want sushi or tacos?

1205
00:43:24,740 --> 00:43:25,460
Sushi.

1206
00:43:25,460 --> 00:43:25,920
Yeah.

1207
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:27,520
And then, no, I don't want.

1208
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,920
And then maybe the freaking pizza place beats it.

1209
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,540
So then it takes over the bracket or whatever.

1210
00:43:32,540 --> 00:43:32,820
Yeah.

1211
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,280
Jimmy, how do you imagine the multiplayer work?

1212
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:39,600
So, like, two people are doing this process separately and then eventually it shows them to each other?

1213
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:40,760
Or how does that work?

1214
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:41,100
Yeah.

1215
00:43:41,100 --> 00:43:41,880
No, that's a good question.

1216
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,620
I think there's a lot of ways it could happen.

1217
00:43:44,620 --> 00:43:51,080
One is kind of like Scotty talked about where we, you know, we both swipe.

1218
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:52,720
And at the end, it's, like, here's my top three.

1219
00:43:52,720 --> 00:43:53,520
Here's your top three.

1220
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:55,920
I could even sweeten the deal a little bit.

1221
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:57,660
I'll say, I'll give you.

1222
00:43:57,660 --> 00:43:58,620
Well, I'm just spitballing.

1223
00:43:58,620 --> 00:44:00,100
Here's how I would do it.

1224
00:44:00,100 --> 00:44:00,780
Person to person.

1225
00:44:00,780 --> 00:44:01,460
I'd say, hey, look.

1226
00:44:01,460 --> 00:44:02,400
I'll buy dinner.

1227
00:44:02,500 --> 00:44:04,840
If you go with my option, you know.

1228
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:05,160
Okay.

1229
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:05,860
I didn't win.

1230
00:44:05,860 --> 00:44:07,420
Mine was your fourth.

1231
00:44:07,420 --> 00:44:09,100
But how much is it worth to you?

1232
00:44:09,100 --> 00:44:09,440
You know?

1233
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:09,940
Sure.

1234
00:44:09,940 --> 00:44:11,240
Up in the ante in between.

1235
00:44:11,240 --> 00:44:12,820
You can sabotage.

1236
00:44:12,820 --> 00:44:18,040
You know, you can throw a one-star rating in there just to really throw them off from Yelp.

1237
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:27,400
You could almost imagine the feed of suggestions that you're being fed would include the things that the other people you've specified have, like, already voted as their favorites and vice versa.

1238
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,180
So you're kind of building a collaborative list.

1239
00:44:29,180 --> 00:44:29,680
That's the way.

1240
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:30,240
Yeah.

1241
00:44:30,240 --> 00:44:30,240
Yeah.

1242
00:44:30,240 --> 00:44:30,720
Yeah.

1243
00:44:30,720 --> 00:44:30,820
Yeah.

1244
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,100
Oh, like your top five.

1245
00:44:33,100 --> 00:44:33,280
Yeah.

1246
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:38,640
Like your top five restaurants or something you could generate and then use that information for, yeah.

1247
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:42,400
And if you're doing the thing that Russell said where you're picking, do you prefer this or that?

1248
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:47,880
There are algorithms out there to say, like, you know, you just are presented with dozens of what sounds better right now.

1249
00:44:47,980 --> 00:44:54,640
A or B and then it spits out at the end the ranked version of your things in order of most preferred at least.

1250
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:56,680
You're doing that, but multiplayer, that's great.

1251
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:57,560
That would be a lot of fun.

1252
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,740
And then, I mean, you could also do some randomness, you know?

1253
00:45:00,740 --> 00:45:09,620
You could pick, you could do almost card draws where it's like you have three cards and you drew three from this list of restaurants you already like and you have to pick one.

1254
00:45:09,620 --> 00:45:10,440
That's game over.

1255
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:14,720
And that's where the ad model, you know, 3% more chance of getting drawn.

1256
00:45:14,720 --> 00:45:15,200
Yeah.

1257
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:15,940
Yeah.

1258
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:23,440
You could do rank choice voting too, where it's like, oh, everybody, everybody's number two got picked or everybody's two and three got picked.

1259
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:27,000
Nobody's number one ever gets picked, but it's everybody's number two.

1260
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,420
I almost like the idea of like Kahoot It.

1261
00:45:29,420 --> 00:45:30,700
Have you guys ever played this?

1262
00:45:30,700 --> 00:45:35,980
Like you put a quiz on the screen and then people are answering real time.

1263
00:45:35,980 --> 00:45:40,040
I think that could be fun too is like, okay, we've got a timer involved.

1264
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:41,440
Here's four restaurants.

1265
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:42,440
We got to pick.

1266
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:43,440
You got 10 seconds.

1267
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:44,020
That's fun.

1268
00:45:44,020 --> 00:45:44,460
Yeah.

1269
00:45:45,180 --> 00:45:46,100
Oh man.

1270
00:45:46,100 --> 00:45:47,180
Speed round it.

1271
00:45:47,180 --> 00:45:48,820
So a decision actually happens.

1272
00:45:48,820 --> 00:45:56,180
But among the, uh, the 10 people in your group, there's like six or seven different choices total that have been randomly dispersed.

1273
00:45:56,180 --> 00:45:59,520
So then you get the, like everyone who liked these three.

1274
00:45:59,520 --> 00:45:59,960
Yeah.

1275
00:45:59,960 --> 00:46:00,380
Yeah.

1276
00:46:00,380 --> 00:46:01,460
That'd be fun.

1277
00:46:01,460 --> 00:46:02,700
There's some game theory in here for sure.

1278
00:46:02,700 --> 00:46:03,300
Yeah.

1279
00:46:03,300 --> 00:46:03,820
There is.

1280
00:46:03,820 --> 00:46:08,940
You put like 10 on the list and then every 10 seconds, one, the least choice goes away.

1281
00:46:08,940 --> 00:46:11,360
And then they get another vote if it was your choice.

1282
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,860
And then eventually everybody's like, well, I picked it, I guess.

1283
00:46:14,860 --> 00:46:15,160
Right.

1284
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,100
The last two get final.

1285
00:46:17,100 --> 00:46:17,620
Yeah.

1286
00:46:18,060 --> 00:46:18,880
And then you have two groups.

1287
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:23,180
And you're watching the votes like change and people are haggling for, no, don't pick that.

1288
00:46:23,180 --> 00:46:24,800
You're like fighting it out in the room.

1289
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:25,180
Yeah.

1290
00:46:25,180 --> 00:46:28,320
People pausing it like, hell no, we're stopping for a second.

1291
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:29,760
I got to talk about this.

1292
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:30,220
You know?

1293
00:46:31,820 --> 00:46:35,100
That becomes a fun party game all of a sudden, you know, you put that.

1294
00:46:35,100 --> 00:46:40,660
And you can, what if you had odds on which restaurant, you know, we've had a betting element on this.

1295
00:46:40,660 --> 00:46:42,800
Beat ups.

1296
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:44,360
Exit strategy.

1297
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:45,280
Draft.

1298
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:45,580
Yeah.

1299
00:46:45,580 --> 00:46:46,200
Draft kings.

1300
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:46,860
Exit strategy.

1301
00:46:46,860 --> 00:46:47,640
Yeah.

1302
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:48,700
Beat ups three to one here.

1303
00:46:48,700 --> 00:46:49,480
That's what I'm thinking.

1304
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,480
Did you pick Wendy's?

1305
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:52,860
I didn't pick Wendy's.

1306
00:46:52,860 --> 00:46:53,940
Why are they here?

1307
00:46:53,940 --> 00:46:56,240
Dude, that'd be funny.

1308
00:46:56,240 --> 00:46:58,740
That's how your monetization is like, oh, sorry.

1309
00:46:58,740 --> 00:47:03,500
But every time there's always an ad or one of the five options is selected for you.

1310
00:47:03,500 --> 00:47:04,420
Subway.

1311
00:47:04,420 --> 00:47:05,320
All right.

1312
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,060
That must have been the wild card.

1313
00:47:08,060 --> 00:47:10,620
I had this exact problem today, though.

1314
00:47:10,620 --> 00:47:16,820
Like I literally was on Yelp trying to find like a Japanese restaurant that was on my way home from the airport.

1315
00:47:16,820 --> 00:47:18,320
And I'm like, which one?

1316
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:19,380
Oh, you know what?

1317
00:47:19,380 --> 00:47:20,760
I'm going to go 10 minutes out of my way.

1318
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,380
You know, it's just like that whole balancing act.

1319
00:47:23,380 --> 00:47:23,580
I know.

1320
00:47:23,580 --> 00:47:26,740
What if we do this with Uber Eats so then you're locked in?

1321
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:30,000
So it's like, OK, whatever the vote is, it's happening.

1322
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:33,120
Like we're going to start an Uber Eats order.

1323
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:34,840
There's no going back.

1324
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:35,860
It locks in.

1325
00:47:35,860 --> 00:47:36,440
Yeah.

1326
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,200
And it's like five bucks to cancel.

1327
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,600
Like this way, it's game over.

1328
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,280
The voting has been decided.

1329
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:44,780
You made a deposit.

1330
00:47:44,780 --> 00:47:48,100
It's interesting when you're trying as a group to try to figure that out.

1331
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:54,060
There's so many things like how far away it is, how busy they'll be, what's the genre, who has allergies.

1332
00:47:54,060 --> 00:47:59,720
If you had everyone on the same app keeping track of all the like factors and importances and stuff.

1333
00:47:59,720 --> 00:48:01,200
I don't like seafood.

1334
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:02,720
Well, that one's too far away.

1335
00:48:02,720 --> 00:48:03,320
Well, whatever.

1336
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:06,900
But everyone's preferences are also included in the deck that they're being served.

1337
00:48:06,900 --> 00:48:08,780
Seems like you'd arrive at that pretty quick.

1338
00:48:08,780 --> 00:48:10,220
I just want to use this.

1339
00:48:10,660 --> 00:48:12,280
It's like doodle for food.

1340
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:12,640
Foodle.

1341
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:13,560
Foodle.

1342
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:14,120
Foodle.

1343
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:15,620
That's the name right there.

1344
00:48:15,620 --> 00:48:18,920
That's such a freebie.

1345
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:19,620
I love it.

1346
00:48:19,620 --> 00:48:26,740
Russell, let's hear what you've got for us.

1347
00:48:26,740 --> 00:48:28,180
All righty.

1348
00:48:28,180 --> 00:48:30,820
So throw, throw, throwback.

1349
00:48:30,820 --> 00:48:34,400
First startup, Scotty B and I living together.

1350
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,460
Started a ring box camera company.

1351
00:48:36,460 --> 00:48:45,740
And one of the things that I thought was really interesting is that most guys, when they plan their proposal, they got like three weeks.

1352
00:48:45,740 --> 00:48:47,800
They're buying the ring.

1353
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,480
And then now they just got a hole in their pocket.

1354
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:51,640
They got to get rid of this ring.

1355
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:53,140
I got to propose as soon as possible.

1356
00:48:53,140 --> 00:48:54,100
Right.

1357
00:48:54,100 --> 00:48:56,480
Literally, it's kind of what happens.

1358
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,860
And one of the problems is guys aren't very creative with their proposals.

1359
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:08,160
And there are tons of people out there that want to help these guys or gals get a proposal really cool.

1360
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:12,980
And so I guess my suggestion, and I think this should exist, right?

1361
00:49:12,980 --> 00:49:14,540
I don't think I'll, well, we'll see.

1362
00:49:14,540 --> 00:49:16,740
Maybe if we kick off ring cam again, this might exist.

1363
00:49:16,740 --> 00:49:28,620
But a proposal matchmaking marketplace where you go on and you find all the different proposal features in your area to support your proposal.

1364
00:49:28,620 --> 00:49:38,820
Whether it's flower shop, local flower shop, local restaurant, local hotel, local, you know, venues that are great for proposals.

1365
00:49:38,820 --> 00:49:41,400
And you become like the spots, right?

1366
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,340
Or the area for proposals.

1367
00:49:43,340 --> 00:49:53,380
And if you didn't have this before, like you could tap restaurants, like ask local restaurants, like, hey, where the proposal marketplace in your area?

1368
00:49:53,380 --> 00:49:57,000
Do you have a proposal feature that you want to add?

1369
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:00,940
Here's like a selection of options at your hotel, restaurant.

1370
00:50:00,940 --> 00:50:02,040
Like, do you have a rooftop?

1371
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:02,820
Great.

1372
00:50:02,820 --> 00:50:03,820
Here's an option.

1373
00:50:03,820 --> 00:50:05,080
We'll send flowers.

1374
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:09,540
Like, we have a local flower shop to deliver roses and like here's some champagne.

1375
00:50:09,540 --> 00:50:16,720
Like we can matchmaking, create this marketplace for photographers, jewelers, and all that, right?

1376
00:50:16,720 --> 00:50:18,220
Chamber of Commerce, right?

1377
00:50:18,220 --> 00:50:19,880
Chamber of Commerce.

1378
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:20,600
Yes.

1379
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:27,040
So you get the local network to just use each other for certain specific events like this.

1380
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:32,800
So the vast majority of proposals that we saw was always a travel destination, right?

1381
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:37,380
Or going to somewhere fancy or just we're on a vacation or whatever with family.

1382
00:50:37,380 --> 00:50:49,340
So you need to be able to pull up this app service and type in whatever town you're going to or city and then it'll populate it with all the things that would be relevant to a proposal that you can choose from.

1383
00:50:49,340 --> 00:50:50,620
Yes.

1384
00:50:50,620 --> 00:50:52,140
That's one way to do it.

1385
00:50:52,140 --> 00:50:53,500
I think that's one way to do it.

1386
00:50:53,580 --> 00:50:55,460
I think you partner with jewelry stores too, maybe.

1387
00:50:55,460 --> 00:51:02,720
And you give them a pamphlet or something that says, hey, plan your proposal through all these options available to you, right?

1388
00:51:02,720 --> 00:51:04,860
Just making it better.

1389
00:51:04,860 --> 00:51:06,780
National parks with good scenery.

1390
00:51:06,780 --> 00:51:07,620
Yes.

1391
00:51:07,620 --> 00:51:08,680
Or...

1392
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:09,640
Like what are the spots?

1393
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:10,120
Yeah.

1394
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:10,520
Yeah.

1395
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:11,360
But like, that's the thing.

1396
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:12,820
Like, that's not like...

1397
00:51:12,820 --> 00:51:15,420
I don't know if you want to go YouTube famous with it.

1398
00:51:15,420 --> 00:51:18,060
Sometimes it's not like the tradition.

1399
00:51:18,060 --> 00:51:28,340
It's like, how do you make the national park experience a flash mob level awesome, but the flash mob model has been played out.

1400
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:33,040
And so now you want, I don't know, a helicopter to drop a package from the sky.

1401
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:33,800
Okay.

1402
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,580
Some crazy ass service like that.

1403
00:51:36,580 --> 00:51:44,160
Or somebody will bury a treasure chest in the middle of Sleeping Bear Dunes and you have to go find it.

1404
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:45,840
Just something crazy and unique.

1405
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:52,460
Just a little bit of special in there that something you can't do because your significant other is always around you.

1406
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:59,600
And, I mean, just add that buried treasure chest or balloon thing sitting in the middle of the road.

1407
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:00,160
I don't know.

1408
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:00,720
Do you know what I mean?

1409
00:52:00,720 --> 00:52:14,200
Do you ever see those TikToks or Reddit videos where it's just a couple sitting on a stairway or in a park or something and some guy will like run up behind him and tap the guy on the shoulder and hand him a big bouquet of flowers and then run away.

1410
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:19,020
And then it just makes the guy of the couple look really thoughtful and cool.

1411
00:52:19,020 --> 00:52:19,900
Yeah.

1412
00:52:19,900 --> 00:52:21,580
It's like having a little hitch.

1413
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,300
That's what I was thinking of 100%.

1414
00:52:24,300 --> 00:52:24,880
Yeah, wingman.

1415
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,240
But Hitch hides himself.

1416
00:52:27,240 --> 00:52:33,100
So that's the trick here is I think there's a stigma about having someone else plan your proposal.

1417
00:52:33,100 --> 00:52:37,420
So this is like a white glove though, right?

1418
00:52:37,420 --> 00:52:40,480
It's the wedding planner but proposal planner.

1419
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,040
And it's like a quiet, it's like a silent partner.

1420
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:44,020
You're a consultant.

1421
00:52:44,020 --> 00:52:44,780
Yes.

1422
00:52:44,780 --> 00:52:45,880
Yes.

1423
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:50,540
It's hard because you ideally would only have each individual customer once.

1424
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:59,680
How do you get a fresh pipeline of new customers constantly and getting the word out in front of people that have never heard of you before and probably won't need your services again.

1425
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:01,020
That's what happened to Ringcam.

1426
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:04,160
You turn it into date ideas or something.

1427
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:09,820
You pivot and you add that into like a service of like other dates, making your date special.

1428
00:53:09,820 --> 00:53:12,680
It turns into an anniversary beyond a proposal.

1429
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:14,120
Promposal.

1430
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:20,300
You know, you go the full anniversary, like birthdays, that kind of thing.

1431
00:53:20,300 --> 00:53:20,540
Yeah.

1432
00:53:20,700 --> 00:53:21,940
And maybe that's what it is.

1433
00:53:21,940 --> 00:53:22,960
It's not just proposals.

1434
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:24,980
That's the Spitball.

1435
00:53:24,980 --> 00:53:26,920
It's special events, right?

1436
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:28,260
It's beyond the proposal.

1437
00:53:28,260 --> 00:53:29,740
But it's specific to couples.

1438
00:53:29,740 --> 00:53:32,640
It's not like we're not just doing any special events.

1439
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:33,880
This is not a grad party.

1440
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:40,520
What you need to do is just like rededicating your vows, ceremonies, or popular 10, 20, 30 years.

1441
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:45,300
You, the company, need to make it cool to re-propose every 10 years.

1442
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:48,360
We have some recurring customers going on.

1443
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,080
Will you still stay married to me?

1444
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:50,680
Oh, wow.

1445
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:51,500
The stakes.

1446
00:53:51,500 --> 00:53:58,080
You just have to change all of society and culture and their stigma around rings and proposals.

1447
00:53:58,080 --> 00:53:59,260
And then you're good.

1448
00:53:59,260 --> 00:54:00,620
Really hope they don't say no.

1449
00:54:00,620 --> 00:54:03,500
Renewing the vows, right?

1450
00:54:03,500 --> 00:54:05,580
Renewing the proposal.

1451
00:54:05,580 --> 00:54:06,340
Hmm.

1452
00:54:06,340 --> 00:54:07,520
Need some workshopping.

1453
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:08,800
Yeah.

1454
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:10,120
Maybe it's just a renewal.

1455
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:10,800
A renewal.

1456
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:12,240
Give them a punch card.

1457
00:54:12,240 --> 00:54:12,780
Oh, man.

1458
00:54:12,780 --> 00:54:18,080
I really, this is a lot of fun to think about because I love planning this type of thing.

1459
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:21,620
Like one of my friends is getting married while he's hoping to get married.

1460
00:54:21,620 --> 00:54:24,100
And it's like, we're thinking of proposal stuff.

1461
00:54:24,100 --> 00:54:25,280
And I'm like, oh, my God.

1462
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:25,520
All right.

1463
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:26,480
Here's what we got to do.

1464
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:28,840
Here's the step one, step two, step three.

1465
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:30,400
This is how you tie it up.

1466
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:34,040
There's got to be levels of surprises, layers of surprises.

1467
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:35,900
But this is the other thing, though.

1468
00:54:35,900 --> 00:54:40,060
Not a lot of people have a lot of experience with it, which is an interesting, which is, I think,

1469
00:54:40,060 --> 00:54:42,060
this is the entryway into it.

1470
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:43,660
Because no one knows how this works.

1471
00:54:43,660 --> 00:54:46,100
Your parents probably haven't done it for 30 years.

1472
00:54:46,100 --> 00:54:51,140
If you're lucky, you have a friend that knows what's up and has gone through it recently.

1473
00:54:51,140 --> 00:54:51,720
Yeah.

1474
00:54:51,720 --> 00:54:58,140
I just think there's like all these opportunities for these, like the airplane flying over the

1475
00:54:58,140 --> 00:55:00,720
water people, right?

1476
00:55:00,720 --> 00:55:05,740
I feel like people could come up with services that make things just a little bit out of the

1477
00:55:05,740 --> 00:55:06,260
ordinary.

1478
00:55:06,700 --> 00:55:10,460
How do you create alternatives to make things extra special?

1479
00:55:10,460 --> 00:55:12,060
Because I know it's a special moment.

1480
00:55:12,060 --> 00:55:16,860
But like, what's the extravagant element that people are looking for?

1481
00:55:16,860 --> 00:55:22,840
And I think that's like fireworks, that kind of stuff, just impromptu craziness, right?

1482
00:55:23,220 --> 00:55:26,940
Because like baseball stadium proposal, like if you look online, a lot of this stuff is

1483
00:55:26,940 --> 00:55:29,540
like baseball, football stadium.

1484
00:55:29,540 --> 00:55:30,900
You're like, oh.

1485
00:55:30,900 --> 00:55:31,900
You know?

1486
00:55:31,900 --> 00:55:32,780
You kind of...

1487
00:55:32,780 --> 00:55:35,760
But like the thing is with these proposals, once they've been...

1488
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:41,180
Like the extravagant stuff gets overplayed and outdone and just over.

1489
00:55:41,180 --> 00:55:44,580
So how do you create something different?

1490
00:55:44,580 --> 00:55:45,360
How do you keep it fresh?

1491
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:45,840
Yeah.

1492
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:46,580
Mm-hmm.

1493
00:55:46,580 --> 00:55:48,400
Like even something crazy.

1494
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:53,200
Like what if it's like on milk cartons or like you create labels and like you go to the

1495
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:56,200
grocery store and you throw it on there or like...

1496
00:55:56,200 --> 00:56:01,260
Or those crazy proposals that are like for weeks or months or years where people are like

1497
00:56:01,260 --> 00:56:04,000
holding the ring in the background behind their significant color.

1498
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:04,480
Behind them.

1499
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:04,680
Yeah.

1500
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:09,020
Like maybe there's more of that available that people...

1501
00:56:09,020 --> 00:56:13,820
Like maybe it's not just like that service, but it's just allowing for people's creativity

1502
00:56:13,820 --> 00:56:21,380
to be sold and bought and exchanged on this proposal marketplace so that your idea was awesome,

1503
00:56:21,380 --> 00:56:23,660
but you're only proposing once.

1504
00:56:23,660 --> 00:56:27,240
So like at least sharing that and then providing...

1505
00:56:27,240 --> 00:56:29,260
Somebody providing a service for that.

1506
00:56:29,260 --> 00:56:30,540
Interesting.

1507
00:56:30,540 --> 00:56:33,860
So you're saying I came up with a cool proposal.

1508
00:56:33,860 --> 00:56:36,040
I execute it.

1509
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:41,600
And then I later I put my idea on this website and then other people can pull from it.

1510
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:45,700
And honestly, yeah, I would do that because I want to show off that I did something cool and clever.

1511
00:56:45,700 --> 00:56:49,480
And then other people can just, yeah, follow through.

1512
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:54,660
I wonder is this happening on Reddit and what could we learn from how that's happening?

1513
00:56:54,660 --> 00:56:56,940
That's where I would go if I were like, hey.

1514
00:56:56,940 --> 00:56:58,100
That's a good idea.

1515
00:56:58,100 --> 00:57:03,580
And just watching those interactions, that'd be fascinating to see like how people are doing that.

1516
00:57:03,580 --> 00:57:04,800
This could be a podcast.

1517
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:06,960
Like there's that like viral element.

1518
00:57:07,300 --> 00:57:12,560
Maybe you start with like a podcast or a newsletter and then you start building up some vibe.

1519
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:15,520
R slash bombastic proposal ideas.

1520
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:18,240
You get Ryan Reynolds in on it from the proposal.

1521
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:20,240
You have him on as a guest.

1522
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:24,100
Yeah, you throw some Amazon affiliate links and all those ideas.

1523
00:57:24,100 --> 00:57:26,960
And now you're incentivized to post your proposal.

1524
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:30,400
You put those links in there and now all of a sudden it's there, right?

1525
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:31,380
Like how the not.

1526
00:57:31,380 --> 00:57:34,860
See how many people use your proposal or saved it off to the side is a good idea.

1527
00:57:34,860 --> 00:57:35,620
But you make a good point.

1528
00:57:35,620 --> 00:57:38,400
There's so much support for once you're engaged, right?

1529
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:39,180
You have the not.

1530
00:57:39,180 --> 00:57:40,040
You have wedding wire.

1531
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:41,360
You have all these sites.

1532
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:43,540
But there's so little beforehand.

1533
00:57:43,540 --> 00:57:45,980
And there's even some stuff for dating.

1534
00:57:45,980 --> 00:57:50,500
But this is like the engagement period is like the, I don't know, dead zone.

1535
00:57:50,500 --> 00:57:51,120
The desert.

1536
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:52,320
No one's doing that.

1537
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:53,160
No one's touching it.

1538
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:53,980
I hate that.

1539
00:57:53,980 --> 00:57:56,160
That phase of life is so bad.

1540
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:57,280
How you buy a ring.

1541
00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:59,140
Why you should buy a ring.

1542
00:57:59,140 --> 00:58:01,440
What kinds of things there are out there.

1543
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:06,280
How to guess your girlfriend's ring size or boyfriend's ring size without knowing.

1544
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:07,300
Talk to her parents.

1545
00:58:07,300 --> 00:58:09,380
How to talk to the parents.

1546
00:58:09,380 --> 00:58:10,920
It's been done.

1547
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:11,980
It's all played out.

1548
00:58:11,980 --> 00:58:14,000
And everybody's given up on it.

1549
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:19,600
I feel like somebody needs to bring new life into it outside of recording the proposal.

1550
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:31,440
I think there's just so much there that should be done or should be shared and should be easier for dudes or ladies, I guess, too, who need these ideas, right?

1551
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:34,120
That's just like, it's just hard, I think.

1552
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:36,620
And especially like when you just dropped a ton of money in the ring.

1553
00:58:36,620 --> 00:58:38,420
Like, how do you manage that?

1554
00:58:38,420 --> 00:58:40,880
What about a custom-tuned ChatGPT?

1555
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,720
How good would ChatGPT be at this?

1556
00:58:44,060 --> 00:58:50,740
What if we just fed ChatGPT a bunch of proposal ideas and you sell it as a service.

1557
00:58:50,740 --> 00:58:53,940
You're like, hey, you have a lovely person in your life.

1558
00:58:53,940 --> 00:58:55,120
You're trying to figure out what to do.

1559
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:55,480
Yeah.

1560
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:56,220
We can help.

1561
00:58:56,220 --> 00:58:58,100
And talk to our associate.

1562
00:58:58,100 --> 00:59:01,180
The same way he looked up the food truck.

1563
00:59:01,180 --> 00:59:02,820
It live scraped stuff.

1564
00:59:02,820 --> 00:59:04,380
Like, maybe it live scrapes.

1565
00:59:04,380 --> 00:59:08,340
Maybe it says, hey, look, you've got an airplane.

1566
00:59:08,340 --> 00:59:10,240
You've got a stadium.

1567
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:12,420
And you've got this restaurant that you can check out.

1568
00:59:12,420 --> 00:59:15,520
Dude, what if you, yes, add some questionnaire.

1569
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:17,400
Like, what is your girl like?

1570
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:20,540
What's your personality type?

1571
00:59:20,540 --> 00:59:22,540
Who is she as a person?

1572
00:59:22,540 --> 00:59:25,760
So that like, oh, she's not going to like the stadium of proposal.

1573
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:27,820
She's going to like this type of proposal.

1574
00:59:27,820 --> 00:59:29,780
Buy her favorite book.

1575
00:59:29,780 --> 00:59:30,580
Cut a cart.

1576
00:59:30,580 --> 00:59:31,520
Cut a hole in it.

1577
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:34,960
And now it's, you know, you go to the bookstore and you put it in there.

1578
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:35,640
Her favorite bookstore.

1579
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:36,700
Oh, that's a good one.

1580
00:59:36,700 --> 00:59:37,080
You see.

1581
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:37,660
Or whatever.

1582
00:59:37,660 --> 00:59:39,040
Off the cuff, baby.

1583
00:59:39,460 --> 00:59:42,200
I might steal that one, Russell, down the road, man.

1584
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:43,040
I'm taking it.

1585
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:43,700
Yeah.

1586
00:59:43,700 --> 00:59:47,600
You know, you've got mail that is just perfect for that movie.

1587
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:51,500
You guys got to watch some rom-coms, right?

1588
00:59:51,500 --> 00:59:56,040
But yes, I think there's like a bunch of those.

1589
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:59,080
And now you create the marketplace to sell and buy that.

1590
00:59:59,080 --> 00:59:59,600
I don't know.

1591
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:01,300
Through some affiliates and stuff.

1592
01:00:01,300 --> 01:00:02,000
But I don't know.

1593
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:04,500
The money making part is the hardest part right now for this.

1594
01:00:04,500 --> 01:00:06,900
I think the money making part is blackmail.

1595
01:00:06,900 --> 01:00:07,440
Okay.

1596
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:08,580
So here's the deal.

1597
01:00:08,820 --> 01:00:10,660
You say, hey, we know.

1598
01:00:10,660 --> 01:00:13,860
Do you want your partner to know you got help planning this?

1599
01:00:13,860 --> 01:00:15,060
That you didn't come up with it?

1600
01:00:15,060 --> 01:00:16,380
Just extort that.

1601
01:00:16,380 --> 01:00:17,620
Do you want it to be exposed?

1602
01:00:17,620 --> 01:00:19,720
We know now that you have a ring.

1603
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:20,800
How much is that worth to you?

1604
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:23,020
That'll be $5 a week until you do it.

1605
01:00:23,020 --> 01:00:23,700
Yeah, right.

1606
01:00:23,700 --> 01:00:26,600
If you tell anyone we blackmailed you, we're selling.

1607
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:28,140
We're telling everybody anyway.

1608
01:00:29,500 --> 01:00:32,100
Thanks for telling us all about your partner.

1609
01:00:32,100 --> 01:00:36,340
We've identified them on social media and we will DM them unless you comply.

1610
01:00:36,340 --> 01:00:39,580
I don't know if that's quite the extortion we're thinking of.

1611
01:00:39,580 --> 01:00:42,380
It was too lame to come up with anything exciting.

1612
01:00:42,380 --> 01:00:44,940
Well, maybe not.

1613
01:00:44,940 --> 01:00:46,120
They don't care enough about you.

1614
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:46,820
Right.

1615
01:00:46,820 --> 01:00:49,740
You must tell three friends in 30 days or else.

1616
01:00:49,740 --> 01:00:52,680
Just full extortion.

1617
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:55,280
We wouldn't even buy our premium service.

1618
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:56,620
Just our most basic package.

1619
01:00:56,620 --> 01:00:59,260
You're only worth $6 to them.

1620
01:01:00,340 --> 01:01:02,960
These were the ideas they fed in to start.

1621
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:06,260
This is what you could have had if it had not been for us.

1622
01:01:06,260 --> 01:01:16,660
Well, dear listener, if you are planning a proposal anytime soon, I'm sure we just talked you into using our new cool service.

1623
01:01:16,660 --> 01:01:20,140
Just forget the last minute or two.

1624
01:01:20,140 --> 01:01:21,320
Yeah, right.

1625
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:23,760
Thank you very much for listening.

1626
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:24,900
We hope you enjoyed yourself.

1627
01:01:24,900 --> 01:01:26,340
And thank you, Jimmy, for joining us.

1628
01:01:26,340 --> 01:01:26,780
This was so fun.

1629
01:01:26,780 --> 01:01:27,640
Thank you for having me.

1630
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:28,220
This was a blast.

1631
01:01:28,220 --> 01:01:28,640
Yes.

1632
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:29,200
Yeah.

1633
01:01:29,420 --> 01:01:30,360
Come on back anytime.

1634
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:31,800
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1635
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:32,920
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1636
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:35,260
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1637
01:01:35,260 --> 01:01:39,920
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01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:40,740
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1640
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:45,440
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1641
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1642
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1643
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1647
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1648
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1649
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