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- I'm Scott.

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- I'm Russell.

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- And I'm Leo.

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This is Spitball.

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Welcome to Spitball,

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where three hacker heroes and a guest

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empty their heads of startup and tech product ideas

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that we have stuck up in there

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so you can all have them for free.

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Anything that we say is yours to keep.

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And Scott, you brought our guest with us this week, right?

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- I did.

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We have our longtime friend, Ali, with us today.

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Ali is from Maine.

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She's captain of the Trivia Trollops

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and is currently a survivor

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of the cicada apocalypse out in Chicago.

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Welcome, Ali.

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- Hi, glad to be here.

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- Oh, this is gonna be great.

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Ali, like a guest before her,

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has brought so many ideas that we thought this week

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would be fun to do another intramurals round.

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So we're gonna do a warmup run

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with a couple of rapid fire ideas, one each.

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And who wants to go first?

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- I can go first.

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- Do it, hit us.

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- So anyone who has done a long car trip with children

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understands the pain of the arm reach around,

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handing a snack, messing with a tablet.

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I want a car conveyor belt.

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I want a little platform next to my seat

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that I can put the snack on and I can just push it back

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so I don't have to reach my arm around

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and they can take it off.

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And then if they need help with the tablet,

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they can put it on, push it forward.

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There's no grabbing, no danger while you're driving.

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I also drive a minivan.

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So if my kids are in the back seat, I can't reach them.

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- Like in the way back.

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- I need a device that will get snack

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from point A to point B and keep me safe while driving.

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- Snack delivery system.

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- Does it go both ways?

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Like the kids can, you know, sometimes if you're driving,

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you have to get the snack that the kid has.

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They just, it just sounds really good in the back.

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- Oh yeah, it's the mom tax.

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I need a bite.

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- The mom tax, there it is.

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- One gusher please.

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- How about a whole pneumatic tube delivery system?

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Like a bank.

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- You put an iPad through that?

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- So I was thinking like if it's in the middle,

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it's gonna stop kids from getting in and out.

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So I was thinking you could put it like on the ceiling.

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- Whoa, just like a claw that goes back and forth.

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- Or like hooks all along it

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so you can like hang the little Ziploc bag on it

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and it goes back, that's fun.

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- Yeah, like a laundry thing.

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- Yeah.

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- Yeah.

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- Zip lines, you could zip line.

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- Clothesline, yes.

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- I like this idea just 'cause of the instant recognition

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on both Leo and Russell's faces.

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As soon as you said that, like, oh my God, absolutely.

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- Yes.

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- You initially, you guys initially texted me

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right before I got in the car to drive it to Michigan.

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So of course I'm driving and I'm thinking

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and as I'm thinking, I'm reaching behind to get a snack

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and I'm like, oh my God, this sucks.

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- That's the whole point of the show, man.

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Train your brain to look around.

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- That's where the idea came from.

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- See these problems, highlight it.

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- For Scott, your doggy treat delivery, all right?

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- There it is.

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- You got Trooper in the back.

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You know, I'm sure it's easier,

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you can throw it back there and he'll figure it out.

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- If I have treats up front and he knows it,

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he is also up front.

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There is no delivery system needed.

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- But that is a good thought.

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- Unless you trained him to be obedient

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and wait in the seat for the delivery

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and the conveyor belt to bring it to him.

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- That sounds like the same thing with extra steps.

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- Yeah, you could probably do that today

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with a couple metal cables and little chip clips.

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You just, you know, get a couple angled cables,

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zip line that, you know, from the front to the back.

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It only goes one way though, you know.

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- You can get a pulley, you just have a whole loop

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and then you just gotta do this move to it.

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- Just a big magnesium magnet and stick it up there

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and just have it go back and forth.

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- Guys are geniuses, yeah, just a pulley.

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Just a pulley system, you know.

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- Like a chairlift at a ski resort, yeah.

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- I didn't even think of that, yeah.

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- You just got the constant loop going

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and you just hang something like a sushi buffet or something.

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- Yes, light it up and you got yourself a,

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now it doesn't look like a conveyor belt system,

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it looks like a decoration, you know.

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- I really like this idea.

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This is very easy to prototype.

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- Should have saved it for my Spitball.

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- I have to move this to Varsity for the murals.

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- Bring it up to JV.

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- All right, Leo, what do you got?

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- So there are music streaming apps

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and there are audio book streaming apps,

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but standup comedy has been languishing

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without its own place, its own home.

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And I am constantly annoyed that standup comedy albums

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are treated like music, like tracks,

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where it doesn't really keep track like a podcast

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of how far you are through it.

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It doesn't recommend good similar artists in the same way.

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I wish that there was a dedicated,

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either built into Spotify, YouTube Music, Apple Music,

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or a totally separate service

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that it was just for standup recommendations,

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for keeping track of stuff that works like a podcast app,

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but is better at, I mean,

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there's thousands of comedy albums out there

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and I'm a big fan, but discovery is hard

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and keeping track of what I have and haven't heard.

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If you try to go back to an album

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that you partway listened through,

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it's so hard to figure out where you left off

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because they're just treated like music tracks.

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I want that.

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Come on, Spotify, who's the product manager over there

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who needs a promotion?

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- That's right.

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I'm almost picturing like TikTok for comedy,

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where it's just like, I can just scroll

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and there's another comedian there,

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but it lets you save it off to the side

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or remembers what you had before.

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- I would love, yeah, that'd be great.

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The YouTube algorithm, but for, or the TikTok algorithm,

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but just audio, or maybe it is audio and video too.

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And it's doing a better job of that.

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That is an underserved market

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that I am a fan of and a part of.

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- I actually really like that where it is just audio.

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'Cause like I'm in driving in the car

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and there's TikTok running,

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but like it's just me hitting one button,

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the skip button on something and I don't like it,

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but the algorithm's still there.

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- Thumbs up, thumbs down if you want.

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- Sure.

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- You could sell a little like coin size accessory

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that goes on the steering wheel.

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That's a thumbs up and thumbs down,

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little Bluetooth controller or something.

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- Dude, that's really cool.

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I think that's a million dollar idea right there.

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- Yeah, man, get me like a wifi enabled iPod shuffle,

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but thumbs up and thumbs down.

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That's got constant stream of tracks from comedians.

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I would love that.

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I would eat that up, save for later.

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I really like this person, really like this genre.

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That'd be great.

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- I think that would make more comedians come online.

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I feel like there's a lot of like maybe unknown comedians

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that are local that you're just getting the-

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- Yes, you fall into some niche.

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There's like, oh, this random unknown comedian

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is actually perfect for you.

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That's a great call.

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- You could have like a discovery page

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where it's like smaller people from like local clubs

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in like San Diego or like Austin.

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- 100%.

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- Whoa. - I like it.

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- All right, Russell, you're up, what's up?

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- All right.

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This is true intramural

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'cause I don't know where to go with it.

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(laughing)

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Okay, so interest rates are high, home buying is hard.

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Why not make, and you know what?

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I already trust my company with literally my livelihood

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for medical health benefits.

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Why can't I trust them with my home?

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And so my suggestion is, is create a benefits package

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that lowers my interest rate.

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They own my home and now I can pay a part of my salary.

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Maybe they match it, whatever.

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- Oh, directly into your mortgage.

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- Yeah, so my company owns my home

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and they give some sort of benefit.

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So instead of paying an insane interest,

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it's like, hey, I will work for this company

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for 10, 15 years if I get a 15 year mortgage

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with no interest.

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Like literally I am making so much money

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by trusting my company with my homely livelihood.

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I already trust them with my,

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I mean my health benefits in a way.

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So like why not just take the million dollars

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that's gonna go to a bank,

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ensure that I'm gonna be with this company

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for another 10 years.

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And I mean, hell, I'm already paying my principal.

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Like it's just all around just,

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I feel like everybody wins in this situation.

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You get loyalty with a company.

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- You're corporate overlord.

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- Yeah, I mean.

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- The company owns your very livelihood and can abuse you.

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- You know, in the same way a bank can do that, right?

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What's the worst?

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- I got evicted by my boss.

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- Yeah.

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- But what if you got demoted?

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Would they be like, okay, sorry,

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you gotta move to like the shittier house

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two blocks down now.

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- No, I think that's,

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I think it's part of the package is you pick your home,

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whatever you wanna pick, they just own the home.

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- The boss has the corner office

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and has the lakefront property.

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- Oh man.

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- There's something, if you get demoted, I mean.

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- That is interesting, Russell.

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'Cause like all these companies out here,

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if they're sitting on liquid cash,

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they can set their own interest rates.

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They pay for it up front to the bank

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or whoever the buyer is.

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You're paying 3% or whatever to your company.

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That, I love all of it,

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minus the what happens when I leave that job.

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- So you have to refinance.

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As soon as you leave, you have to refinance

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and go to a bank.

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So you trust a bank anyway, right?

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Or your next job, if this becomes popular,

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takes on that same, like that's their benefit, right?

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- I like that.

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You have it all pre-set up ahead of time.

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Like if everything crashes,

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then I'm gonna go to Huntington or whatever.

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If I lose my job, I go to Huntington.

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- Your Christmas bonus would be like

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a 1% less interest rate.

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- Hey, I would take that in a second.

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- That would be an amazing bonus.

265
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That would be incredible.

266
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I'd be like.

267
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'Cause like in a way, right?

268
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It's like the same thing.

269
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It's money going to a bank instead of my,

270
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like my boss is paying me to pay a bank.

271
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Like why not just cut the middleman out?

272
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- I'm sure we're missing a lot of things on this,

273
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but I really like this.

274
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- My boss gives me money and then I give it to a bank.

275
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Why not cut out the middleman

276
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and not have me any money?

277
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I don't like having money.

278
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- Literally, guys, I was doing this mortgage thing

279
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in our discord.

280
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- Sure.

281
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- Every dollar I borrow,

282
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I pay 75 cents for every dollar I borrow over 30 years.

283
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My first 10 years,

284
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I am paying so much more money up front for interest.

285
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And like, I literally am just renting my house

286
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from the bank right now.

287
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I just like, what the hell is this?

288
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If I were to refinance,

289
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I could have just rent from the bank even more.

290
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There's something inherently evil

291
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about the way interest rates are

292
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and the way I want to own.

293
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And also it's a big problem for the world right now.

294
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Sorry, this is beyond the rules now.

295
00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:53,520
So cut this out.

296
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But like, we got problems.

297
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- Rise up.

298
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- Hate the rich.

299
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- Like give me a flat fee

300
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or let me own more of my house when I pay my mortgage.

301
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But I'm like, my company, like they have money.

302
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Why can't they just buy my house

303
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and I just get a discounted rate?

304
00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:11,240
I'll stay with them for 10 years

305
00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,840
if they cut literally what I'm gonna do anyway, right?

306
00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:14,840
If I'm already gonna stay there,

307
00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:16,080
like, I don't know, what's it to them?

308
00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,400
So, that's it.

309
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Somebody make that happen.

310
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- I really like that.

311
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- All right, Scott.

312
00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,600
- How are you gonna eat the rich?

313
00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:30,280
- What's your intramural?

314
00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,200
- I had nowhere near that.

315
00:11:34,560 --> 00:11:36,160
- I read an article the other day

316
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of fabric that can block specific UV.

317
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And my very first thought of that was like,

318
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let's make SPF shirts, long sleeve shirts,

319
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where I can put it on and it's the equivalent

320
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of having SPF 15 sunscreen on or SPF 30 sunscreen on.

321
00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:52,840
- That's a thing.

322
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- Is that a thing?

323
00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:54,920
- Every parent--

324
00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:55,880
- Isn't that all shirts?

325
00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:56,720
- Every parent knows this.

326
00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,040
- As a ginger, I can attest that is a thing.

327
00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:02,080
- Are all shirts not SPF?

328
00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:05,280
- Yeah, but you just wear like a T-shirt,

329
00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:06,880
I could get sunburned underneath it.

330
00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:08,800
- I'm saying you just get, you specify like

331
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the actual specific amount of how much SPF this is

332
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and then brand it.

333
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So, I have a full set.

334
00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,520
I've got my 15, I got my 30, I got my 45 or whatever.

335
00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:18,160
- This one's the tanning oil shirt.

336
00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:19,000
- You know--

337
00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:20,520
- Yeah, exactly, SPF 5.

338
00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:22,600
- That actually, honestly, Scott,

339
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I think that would be very successful

340
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'cause people probably don't connect the dots there.

341
00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,280
- As long as you branded it really obvious and in front

342
00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,800
and then you just target people who don't like to put on

343
00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,760
icky sunscreen or something and then, I don't know.

344
00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,640
- Which is me, I hate the feeling of sunscreen and lotion.

345
00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:42,440
- There you go, now you can get a great tan

346
00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,160
just by being outside.

347
00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:47,480
- I have never considered that any item of clothing

348
00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,680
that I wear is not already inherently SPF infinity.

349
00:12:50,680 --> 00:12:54,240
Like, does any UV light get through any outfits, clothes?

350
00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:56,720
- That's why I was so excited about this particular article

351
00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:58,880
is like this fabric, you can set the amount

352
00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,000
based on thread, whatever.

353
00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:01,840
So I'm like, yeah, let's just--

354
00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:04,360
- But it's not like translucent.

355
00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,000
- It didn't look translucent.

356
00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,400
I can't speak if you get that shirt wet, but.

357
00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:11,680
- Yeah, 'cause I've seen like swimming shirts

358
00:13:11,680 --> 00:13:13,480
and like exercise shirts,

359
00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,440
but just not like a normal fabric shirt.

360
00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:17,280
- Yeah, I don't wanna--

361
00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:18,600
- Is that the difference?

362
00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:20,640
- I've seen like exercise ones where it's like

363
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prevent all UV or UV proof or whatever.

364
00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:25,000
I wanna do the opposite.

365
00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,840
- It sounds like I'm hearing you say that this exact thing

366
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is not, it lets through some

367
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and that's the innovation.

368
00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:32,560
- Yes.

369
00:13:32,560 --> 00:13:34,680
- Before they just didn't let through any.

370
00:13:34,680 --> 00:13:35,520
- I mean--

371
00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:36,360
- That's interesting.

372
00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,120
- Yeah, you could do the sun umbrellas,

373
00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:42,840
you could do parasols, you could do not just clothes,

374
00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,120
you could do like sheets, right?

375
00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,760
Like literally you go to the beach and now you have a tent

376
00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:52,040
and the tent is literally like a UV lightener, right?

377
00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:55,080
- Reducer, but not eliminator.

378
00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,160
- So I could like kind of tan.

379
00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:58,000
- Yes.

380
00:13:58,000 --> 00:13:59,480
- Instead of putting on sunscreen,

381
00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:01,400
it's an alternative,

382
00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:03,720
which you sell that to coral reefs all day.

383
00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:05,440
- Ali, I think the blocker is,

384
00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:08,160
you and I think of sunscreen as don't let any through,

385
00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,120
but this is some people's definition

386
00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:11,840
of only let some through.

387
00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:13,400
- Which I don't want at all.

388
00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:14,240
- Yeah, same.

389
00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,160
(laughing)

390
00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:17,000
- I want no sun.

391
00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,480
- Interesting.

392
00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,080
- Wow, you guys don't tan, huh?

393
00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:22,760
- Not well.

394
00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,280
- I come in two colors, red and white.

395
00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:26,520
There's no in between.

396
00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:27,560
- Very patriotic.

397
00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,120
- Me and Scott have just a hint.

398
00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:31,560
You know, the olive skin and the--

399
00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:32,560
- Just a itty bitty.

400
00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:34,280
(laughing)

401
00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:37,520
- So for the Jersey Shore, Scott, is what you're saying.

402
00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,680
We're gonna sell all these Jersey Shore.

403
00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,800
- Those are some fun ones.

404
00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:43,640
Yeah.

405
00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,040
- Should we like end it on like a, I don't know,

406
00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:47,880
what award do you get in your ear murals?

407
00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:49,080
- Participation trophy.

408
00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:50,360
- All right, who?

409
00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:52,120
Everybody gets a free T-shirt.

410
00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:53,120
Yeah.

411
00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:54,480
- Yeah.

412
00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,080
- A free sunscreen T-shirt handed to you by a claw

413
00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:57,920
in your minivan.

414
00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:59,360
(laughing)

415
00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,560
- I couldn't pay your bill, yes.

416
00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:02,400
- All right, Russell, you're up.

417
00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:03,680
What do you got for us this week?

418
00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:04,520
- All right.

419
00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:05,360
- What's your varsity idea?

420
00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,320
- Hmm, you know, it's a little off the wall,

421
00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:13,320
but you know, sometimes I look at the infrastructure.

422
00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,440
You know, sometimes it's just good to look up in general.

423
00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:19,040
When you're going for a walk, you know, look up at the sky

424
00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:21,920
and then you see all these power lines everywhere

425
00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:25,280
and you're like, this is ugly.

426
00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:27,360
And you know what's funny about power lines

427
00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:32,360
is they go to every single home in any community, right?

428
00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:35,960
And you know what else goes to every home?

429
00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:39,200
Mailmen, UPS drivers.

430
00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:42,360
There are people that do stuff every day

431
00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:43,760
and they go to your house.

432
00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:48,520
So why not create a system or a device

433
00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:53,040
that connects to power lines to suck the power

434
00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:56,440
out of the power lines and deliver your mail every day?

435
00:15:56,440 --> 00:16:01,040
You just have a mail carrier right in the utility lines,

436
00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:02,320
house to house.

437
00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:06,440
I just don't see why we have the infrastructure.

438
00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,200
Let's just add a device to it.

439
00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:09,040
That's it.

440
00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:09,860
Simple idea.

441
00:16:09,860 --> 00:16:10,700
- Wouldn't it blow up?

442
00:16:10,700 --> 00:16:13,440
- You tell the engineers to not let it blow up.

443
00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:14,280
All right.

444
00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:15,560
- Oh, I passed the many.

445
00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:16,400
- That's the engineer's problem.

446
00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:17,360
- Requirement number one.

447
00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,320
- The boys down in engineering have that solved.

448
00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,280
Yeah, that's their problem.

449
00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:22,520
- That's all you gotta do.

450
00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:23,560
- Okay, I want to back up here.

451
00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:27,240
Are we talking about like transferring data modularly

452
00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:32,240
through the power line or a claw that rides the power line

453
00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:35,200
holding your Amazon package?

454
00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,040
- The second, the latter.

455
00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:38,600
- We're talking about claw machines tonight.

456
00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:39,760
- That makes me so happy.

457
00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,520
- You've got a series of baskets that are traveling

458
00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,360
like little locked safes all along the power lines.

459
00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:50,360
They only unlock when they arrive at the house itself.

460
00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,840
They leach a little bit of ambient current

461
00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:56,120
off of the line that they're hanging on, which is a thing.

462
00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,440
- Delivers the mail, delivers packages.

463
00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:03,360
You know, somebody somewhere said,

464
00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:08,360
"Let's run wires on poles to every home in America."

465
00:17:08,360 --> 00:17:10,240
And nobody bat an eye.

466
00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:14,160
Why can't we use those wires for other things?

467
00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,040
- I have a question.

468
00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:17,200
- We're not taking any.

469
00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:18,040
(laughs)

470
00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:18,920
- Several.

471
00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:19,760
Go ahead, Ali.

472
00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,880
- If the power line is buried, what do I do?

473
00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:24,840
- I was thinking a little bit about how many of them

474
00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,440
in our neighborhood are currently being undergrounded.

475
00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,040
- You tell your city to put poles back up.

476
00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,440
You tell them they messed up.

477
00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:34,600
- Do you know how much money I spent

478
00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:36,280
to bury that power line?

479
00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,080
- You know how it's a great idea to take all

480
00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:41,200
of our critical infrastructure and dangle it up on poles,

481
00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,600
precarious poles, blowing in the breeze?

482
00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:45,320
- It eliminates USPS.

483
00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:46,760
- My boss likes to tell,

484
00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:48,280
I don't know if it's an old wives tale or what,

485
00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,240
but a story about how the dog used to know

486
00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,160
when the phone was gonna ring before it rang.

487
00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:53,240
Did I tell you guys about this?

488
00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:54,080
- No.

489
00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:56,800
- So, I don't know if it's true or not,

490
00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,400
but the dog would be outside and it would start barking

491
00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:00,520
and then a few seconds later,

492
00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:04,920
the landline phone back in the 60s or 70s or 80s would ring.

493
00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:06,600
And after a while, they realized,

494
00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:11,400
well, there's a 60 volt current that would go along

495
00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:15,360
the telephone line wire as it went to the house

496
00:18:15,360 --> 00:18:17,920
to make the bell ring on the landline phone.

497
00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:20,520
And they were clipping the dog to the thing

498
00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:23,920
and the dog running along and over the years

499
00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,120
had worn down the shielding on the cable.

500
00:18:26,120 --> 00:18:30,240
So it was just getting zapped as the phone was about to ring.

501
00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:31,960
So you'd hear a ruff, ruff, ruff, ruff,

502
00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:33,440
and then the phone would ring

503
00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,960
'cause he was getting a little shock.

504
00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:38,240
I do worry a little bit about the wear and tear

505
00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,440
of a bunch of little baskets going along

506
00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,480
all of our critical infrastructure.

507
00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:44,120
- Did they name the dog Sparky?

508
00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:48,240
- I hope so.

509
00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:50,720
Oh, wear and tear, huh?

510
00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:51,560
- Yeah.

511
00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,360
- You know, somebody could fix that, right?

512
00:18:54,360 --> 00:18:56,520
- I'm not here to be a naysayer to your genius.

513
00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:58,320
- It's a problem for the engineers.

514
00:18:58,320 --> 00:18:59,560
- That's right, okay.

515
00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:03,440
You could use the bots to repair the wear.

516
00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:04,680
- I was actually just thinking that.

517
00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:06,720
- It's spraying a little bit of sealant or something.

518
00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:07,560
Yeah, sure.

519
00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:08,380
- There we go.

520
00:19:08,380 --> 00:19:09,720
You see, the engineer in the room thought of that

521
00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:10,840
before everybody else.

522
00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:11,960
- Some Flex Seal.

523
00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:13,880
- Flex Seal.

524
00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:17,240
I actually love the idea of some kind of sloth looking bot

525
00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,800
on wheels, like goes along, gets to the pole

526
00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,840
and like slowly grabs to the other side of the pole

527
00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:24,840
and then continues on.

528
00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,360
That would just be incredible to see a bunch

529
00:19:27,360 --> 00:19:28,200
of those running around.

530
00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:29,400
- That'd be great.

531
00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:31,860
- But what would you do in a traffic jam?

532
00:19:31,860 --> 00:19:33,720
- Right.

533
00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:37,040
Well, we could have like extendable where they go,

534
00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:37,920
- Oh.

535
00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:40,440
- You know, over and under and around each other maybe.

536
00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,840
- Okay, now that Scott has said sloth,

537
00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,480
that's what I'm imagining and it would be adorable.

538
00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:47,240
So can we do this?

539
00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:48,440
Like, can we make them,

540
00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:49,280
- Reaching around.

541
00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:50,760
- Oh, that would be so fun if you gave them

542
00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,080
like little cute faces.

543
00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:53,920
- The thing is,

544
00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:55,440
- And they like hold the letters in their mouths.

545
00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:56,320
- Yeah.

546
00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:57,160
- Right.

547
00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:00,760
But these workers 24/7, post people, right?

548
00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,400
They're working nine to five, you know,

549
00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,240
they have to sleep, they have a benefits.

550
00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,560
No, I'm just saying like, you just get rid of,

551
00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:10,640
you don't have to worry about time.

552
00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,200
Literally mail arrives, when it arrives,

553
00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,360
it could arrive three times a day.

554
00:20:15,360 --> 00:20:18,440
It can arrive no times in a day.

555
00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:22,320
You've changed the way logistics as a whole works

556
00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,720
by using already existing infrastructure

557
00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,400
that taxpayers have already paid for.

558
00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,800
Boom, nobody loses.

559
00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:30,960
- Except the mailman.

560
00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:32,760
- Except the mailman's pension.

561
00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,040
You know.

562
00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:36,080
- Russell, the more you talk,

563
00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,400
the more I think you are a corporate overlord.

564
00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:43,640
- Listen, if we were in the business to keep people working,

565
00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:45,200
we would never have a lawnmower.

566
00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:46,360
We'd have scythes.

567
00:20:46,360 --> 00:20:47,200
We would...

568
00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:51,600
- You're saying you want the USPS

569
00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:55,200
to be the largest robotics maintenance contractor.

570
00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:56,440
- One of the biggest.

571
00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:57,280
- Building these bots.

572
00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:01,040
- Right, buses, like if you think about all the jobs in cars

573
00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,760
would be taken away if we just mass produced more buses.

574
00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:04,960
No, I don't know.

575
00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:06,240
Maybe I am a corporate overlord.

576
00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:07,440
All I have to say is,

577
00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:12,280
I just think there's underutilized something

578
00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,480
with utility poles all over the nation.

579
00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,600
- The engineer in me is crying.

580
00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,440
- They're gonna go away if we just bury them, right?

581
00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,480
To Ali's point, like let's just bury them,

582
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,520
but why not just sell the access?

583
00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,520
I guess like, how's this?

584
00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,680
Open access to utility poles.

585
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,120
What if we level that up a little bit?

586
00:21:32,120 --> 00:21:35,680
So you just like, you charge rent on utility poles.

587
00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:37,240
I don't know if that's how it works today.

588
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,560
- I would steal so much power if that was the case.

589
00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:40,440
- That is a thing.

590
00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:43,680
So like the AT&Ts and Comcasts of the world

591
00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:45,800
work with our local contractor,

592
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:47,560
at least who owns the pole,

593
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,960
our local utility company puts it up

594
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,120
and then basically they pay rent, yeah,

595
00:21:53,120 --> 00:21:55,400
to put their own cables up on the existing infrastructure.

596
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,040
- I mean, there we go.

597
00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:58,400
- Why not USPS?

598
00:21:58,400 --> 00:21:59,240
Throw it on there as well.

599
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:00,080
- You're basically there.

600
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,840
- That actually could do a dedicated USPS line.

601
00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:03,880
- Yes, right?

602
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:04,760
Let me throw this out there.

603
00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:08,120
What if Amazon was like, we're gonna do this?

604
00:22:08,120 --> 00:22:09,360
Like we got billions of dollars,

605
00:22:09,360 --> 00:22:10,440
we don't know what to do with it.

606
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:11,280
Would you pay--

607
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:12,840
- Abandoning the drone project.

608
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:14,880
- Yes, they're abandoning the drone project

609
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,960
and now they're like, Amazon premium,

610
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,600
we need access to your utility pole,

611
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,080
but you have to pay $100 more a year, let's say.

612
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,320
Would you pay $100 more a year

613
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,520
to get your packages delivered?

614
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:29,560
- Same day.

615
00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,800
- Well, they would be like replacing paying people.

616
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:34,680
They shouldn't charge me more for this.

617
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:36,240
I don't care how it gets to my house.

618
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,560
No, I would pay, I would take $100 less

619
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,560
if a human delivers it to my door versus the robot.

620
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,040
You're incentivizing this wrong.

621
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:44,920
I wanna, I mean, it would be kind of fun

622
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:46,360
to watch your robot go along the lines.

623
00:22:46,360 --> 00:22:48,360
Maybe I'd pay a hundred bucks for one year

624
00:22:48,360 --> 00:22:49,920
to watch your little bots do their thing.

625
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:50,760
That would be kind of fun.

626
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:52,120
- Especially if it was sloth shaped.

627
00:22:52,120 --> 00:22:53,240
- That's true.

628
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:54,120
The sloth packs.

629
00:22:54,120 --> 00:22:55,080
- That's the most important part.

630
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:56,280
- You talked me into it.

631
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,320
- I guess you're right.

632
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,080
I guess the Amazon is saving money, maybe in a way.

633
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:02,000
So why would you pay more

634
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:03,960
for the way that packages get delivered?

635
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:05,960
Unless it was faster, right?

636
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:07,200
- They talk about how the last mile

637
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:08,480
is the hardest part in logistics.

638
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,760
So maybe this is it.

639
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:11,600
- There it is.

640
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:12,680
There it is, Leo.

641
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,400
We'll call it, that's the company name.

642
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:15,960
The Last Mile.

643
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:17,800
- Makes it sound like the last surviving mile.

644
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,280
Like you're gonna burn it all down.

645
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,080
- The Last Mile High Club.

646
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:22,920
(laughing)

647
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,360
- This dystopian image of a Amazon truck

648
00:23:25,360 --> 00:23:28,800
pulling up to a power line and just like putting sloths.

649
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:29,640
- Unloading all the sloths.

650
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:30,720
- All these sloths onto it.

651
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,040
All of them full of packages and they all scurry away.

652
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,680
- Oh, but there could be like a subscription fee

653
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,360
and you could change the animal.

654
00:23:38,360 --> 00:23:39,280
- Ah, there you go.

655
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,800
- Like you could choose who's gonna deliver your packages.

656
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,000
- Who's it gonna be today, buddies?

657
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,280
Oh, it's a giraffe.

658
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,320
Oh, he's got his little neck around the power line.

659
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:48,680
- He left a paw print.

660
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:49,880
- Oh, it's a squirrel.

661
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,000
No, wait, that's just a real squirrel.

662
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,360
- It's Blue from Blue's Clues.

663
00:23:53,360 --> 00:23:55,040
It's your favorite Paw Patrol guy.

664
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:56,120
Whoa.

665
00:23:56,120 --> 00:23:57,160
- Oh no.

666
00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:58,480
What if you ordered food

667
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,440
and the squirrels actually got your food?

668
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:01,800
- That's some door dash.

669
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,840
- There you go.

670
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,160
- All the crows and seagulls and shit

671
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:06,880
are gonna learn immediately about this.

672
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,600
- Ali, that's brilliant.

673
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,240
- Scott, you nailed it, dude.

674
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:14,840
Imagine just like all the old burritos sitting at Chipotle

675
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,200
waiting to be picked up by door dash.

676
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,160
You just, you literally throw it in the power lines

677
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,080
and the sloth picks it up and gets you there.

678
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,600
- So could we make like a sushi train,

679
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,640
but all the way from the sushi restaurant to my house?

680
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,240
- The same company that's doing the minivan retrofit

681
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:31,760
for the conveyor belt system.

682
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,360
- The squirrels have never been happier.

683
00:24:34,360 --> 00:24:35,640
- Would you guys travel?

684
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,120
What if it was a people mover?

685
00:24:38,120 --> 00:24:40,360
What if you rode it like a zip line?

686
00:24:40,360 --> 00:24:42,560
- I don't think you know what a people mover is.

687
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:44,560
(laughing)

688
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:45,400
- Zip line.

689
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,760
- Yeah, I would zip line to Chipotle.

690
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,720
- You know, like public transportation

691
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,720
by utility pole, all right?

692
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,840
Literally clip in, it's got the power

693
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,880
and they just move you around.

694
00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,480
- It would make me feel like Spider-Man.

695
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,440
- I think it would be fun.

696
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:02,880
I keep flip-flopping between,

697
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:04,960
this is the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

698
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,160
This could work, I actually like this.

699
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:08,680
Put a disclaimer in this episode,

700
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,320
must take 10 milligram edible before listening.

701
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,720
- Warning listener, do not try zip lining

702
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,560
from power lines in backyard.

703
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:16,680
(laughing)

704
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,120
- This is like, you have to build

705
00:25:18,120 --> 00:25:21,160
an entire city infrastructure on it, right?

706
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,600
Like imagine no roads.

707
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:27,280
You replace all roads with giant ass utility poles

708
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,040
and you zip line from point A to point B.

709
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,760
Just the entire infrastructure.

710
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:34,080
Gondolas.

711
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,520
- At this point, it almost feels like

712
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,400
you're reverse engineering it though.

713
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,520
Like you wanna build a whole city

714
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,840
with these poles that do all these things

715
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,720
and then, oh yeah, we'll just add the power into that too.

716
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:46,560
- Afterthought.

717
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:47,400
- Yeah, and fuck solar

718
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:48,840
'cause that would ruin the whole idea.

719
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,080
You know, if everybody had solar on their roofs,

720
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,920
that would destroy the whole infrastructure thing.

721
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,240
But, okay, here's another way to spin it.

722
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:58,760
Power companies need to figure out

723
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,320
what to do with these utility poles

724
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,520
and now power isn't on it anymore.

725
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:03,360
- Why not?

726
00:26:03,360 --> 00:26:05,040
At that point, yeah, you know what?

727
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,120
Spitballers, this is gonna need your help.

728
00:26:08,120 --> 00:26:08,960
- This is gold.

729
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,960
Can't believe you're giving this away for free, man.

730
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,200
(laughing)

731
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:23,520
- Scotty B, what's your idea this week?

732
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,360
- It's not the level of an hinge as I need to be, I think,

733
00:26:26,360 --> 00:26:28,720
but we're gonna try to get up there.

734
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,200
Okay, fell down a YouTube rabbit hole last night

735
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:35,640
and you see those videos of people that train crows

736
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,960
to be like, "Pick up cigarette butts,"

737
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:39,640
or "Bring me coins," and stuff.

738
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,480
Why can't we automate this entire process?

739
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:47,280
Why can't we make a crow training vending machine thing

740
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,560
that we just franchise all over

741
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:53,040
and we just put it in a park and it is fully autonomous

742
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,480
in that it goes through all the different stages

743
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:59,320
to train crows to bring X to it.

744
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,520
And then we just place them all over the country.

745
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,320
I don't care if they're bringing you dollar bills

746
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,400
or it's for garbage cleanup or something.

747
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,280
It's like, this YouTube was explaining,

748
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,080
it's four stages to train a crow.

749
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,600
First you need to make it really obvious for them

750
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,000
and you have to lay a bunch of coins

751
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:15,160
and they accidentally knock one in

752
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,920
and a sunflower seed comes out.

753
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:19,760
Then the next stage, they make it a little bit harder.

754
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,520
You have to pick up the coin and drop it in.

755
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,040
And then the third stage, the coin is on the ground

756
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,960
and by the fourth stage, they are just flying out.

757
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,040
All you need to do is keep this thing fully stocked

758
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,920
with freaking bird seed and then empty it

759
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:34,560
every once in a while like a vending machine.

760
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:38,400
- The first ever, that's the entire idea.

761
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,960
- A new business out there, it's called Birds as a Service.

762
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:47,240
You got SAS, you got Software as a Service,

763
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:52,240
you got platforms, now it's just getting Birds as a Service.

764
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,440
This is the funniest thing I've ever heard.

765
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,000
- I thought the birds worked for the bourgeoisie.

766
00:27:57,120 --> 00:27:59,360
(laughing)

767
00:27:59,360 --> 00:28:02,640
- I thought there was an experiment involving crows

768
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,600
and trash collection where they were doing this

769
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,120
and they were teaching them to collect food and stuff,

770
00:28:08,120 --> 00:28:10,280
but then the crows were--

771
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:11,960
- Got addicted to the cigarette butts.

772
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,520
- Creating new litter in order to, they were bringing,

773
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,560
they were like, oh, I can just go grab trash

774
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,920
and throw it all over and then bring some of it back

775
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:22,920
and then that also gets me the reward.

776
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:24,960
- It's like training an AI.

777
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,120
- Yeah, so there's some unintended consequences

778
00:28:27,120 --> 00:28:30,560
for teaching birds, find as much trash as you possibly can

779
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:31,400
and bring it to--

780
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,720
- They're probably just gonna end up robbing people

781
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,800
if you train them to get shiny objects.

782
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,600
- They'll be taking it from your trash machine

783
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,440
to the neighbor's and back and forth, back and forth.

784
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,280
- What would you want specifically the birds

785
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:47,040
to be putting in this bird training vending machine?

786
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,200
- The optimist or nice person would be like,

787
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,720
again, cigarette butts or just pieces of litter

788
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,000
or something.

789
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:58,560
The more Slytherin person is like shiny objects,

790
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,520
coins, dollar bills, fives are up.

791
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,280
- Dude, could we get these birds

792
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,360
to like deliver surveys to people?

793
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:07,560
(laughing)

794
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,080
- On your power lines.

795
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:10,680
- Yeah, deliver DoorDash.

796
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,720
- I'm just, I'm thinking the corporate entity out there

797
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,840
is like, man, how do we reach our customers?

798
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,680
Let's hire crows as a service

799
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,400
to deliver paper surveys to people

800
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,680
and pick them up like after they fill out the survey,

801
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:30,120
the crow drops the $2 in its mouth

802
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,760
and then takes the survey

803
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,680
and delivers it to the vending machine.

804
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,840
- That might add like 19 more steps

805
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,840
to my four step box that I'm trying to make, but.

806
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,120
- The engineers will figure,

807
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,360
I mean the botanists or whatever the.

808
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:50,200
- We just lost all our engineers as subscribers on here.

809
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,120
- Sorry, that was not the engineers.

810
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,520
It's more of the, yeah, the vets or the vet techs out there.

811
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,640
- For real though, I feel like this would not be

812
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,240
complex hardware.

813
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:01,960
Once you have one working one,

814
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,320
you just duplicate it and put them all over

815
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:08,280
and they just work on power and bird seed and that's it.

816
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,240
- Dude, adopt a highway campaigns, right?

817
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:12,080
- Yeah.

818
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,200
- Like all over you get, right?

819
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:15,040
We just literally.

820
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:15,880
- Beach cleanup.

821
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,120
- We get prisoners to do that work.

822
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:19,880
I mean, let's get some. - Why not birds?

823
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:20,720
- Why not crows?

824
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:21,560
You just.

825
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:22,640
- Alfred Hitchcock would be so proud.

826
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,040
- The crow hive, right?

827
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,320
And they just go out and they collect all the trash

828
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:27,320
on the sidewalk.

829
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,840
You can bring beehives to like commercial farmers.

830
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:35,320
They hire beekeepers to travel and bring entire beehives

831
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,560
to pollinate farms.

832
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,840
Why can't we do this for trash cleanup and robbery?

833
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,160
- Like bring the crows.

834
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:44,400
Yeah, I see what you're saying.

835
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:45,640
- Yeah, in a truck.

836
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,360
- I think a big difference is bees instinctively

837
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:49,660
pollinate flowers.

838
00:30:49,660 --> 00:30:51,920
There's no training of crows involved

839
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:52,880
or training of bees.

840
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:54,760
- How many generations of natural selection

841
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,200
would it take before crows just have an instinct

842
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,080
where they have to clean up trash all the time?

843
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,160
- So we're breeding a slave?

844
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:04,000
Race of birds?

845
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:05,320
- Oh yeah, there's an ethical problem there.

846
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,720
You exist to serve butter, right?

847
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,720
- Carrier pigeons, they did that.

848
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,360
What happened to the carrier pigeon?

849
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,440
You know, it's just an alternative to carrier pigeon.

850
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:16,360
- Birds are smart.

851
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:17,200
- Yeah.

852
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:18,600
- What happened to the carrier pigeon?

853
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:19,640
- I mean, let's just make it.

854
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:20,640
- Technology happened.

855
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:21,680
- I guess that's true.

856
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:22,560
It is whimsical.

857
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,160
It would be fun to send love notes

858
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:25,640
via carrier pigeon or something.

859
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:26,480
- Power line.

860
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:32,180
If it's cheaper than a stamp, all right.

861
00:31:32,180 --> 00:31:34,560
- I have a vision for what this box would look like.

862
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,120
- How many crows would you need?

863
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,160
- I wish I knew more about it.

864
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:39,000
It doesn't matter.

865
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,960
You just put it out there and they will figure it out.

866
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:42,000
You could get a hundred crows,

867
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,280
you can get one crow and it'll just keep going.

868
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:46,400
Maybe it'll train other crows.

869
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:47,400
- Governments would pay for this.

870
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:48,240
I don't know.

871
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:49,680
I think that governments would pay for this

872
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,220
if you could actually figure it out.

873
00:31:51,220 --> 00:31:54,040
- It's like the aerial version

874
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:55,940
of like the Silicon Valley companies

875
00:31:55,940 --> 00:31:57,740
that hire the fields of goats

876
00:31:57,740 --> 00:32:00,000
that they don't wanna pay for mowing their lawns.

877
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,640
So they just pay for goats instead.

878
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:05,200
You're just not paying for a beach cleaner truck,

879
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,400
a Zamboni that goes and cleans up the beach.

880
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,820
- Oh, it's real.

881
00:32:09,820 --> 00:32:11,800
- Some of the already exist.

882
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,400
- The crow box.com.

883
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:14,240
I'll put the link.

884
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,800
- Oh, congratulations to the crow box.com

885
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,040
for scooping us before we even published.

886
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,660
- Okay, but do they sell to like theme parks?

887
00:32:21,660 --> 00:32:23,260
- Okay, this is sick actually.

888
00:32:23,260 --> 00:32:24,820
- What if you did a different model, Scott?

889
00:32:24,820 --> 00:32:29,260
You train crows for every theme park in the country

890
00:32:29,260 --> 00:32:32,380
and now their theme parks are always clean

891
00:32:32,380 --> 00:32:34,740
and you create crow training as a service.

892
00:32:34,740 --> 00:32:35,580
You just--

893
00:32:35,580 --> 00:32:36,600
- Russell, yes.

894
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,340
Also, this is open source.

895
00:32:38,340 --> 00:32:39,600
- Yeah.

896
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:40,440
Wait, what?

897
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,060
Crow box is open source?

898
00:32:42,060 --> 00:32:44,700
Like crow training?

899
00:32:44,700 --> 00:32:47,260
- The dude did a TED talk about it.

900
00:32:47,260 --> 00:32:48,500
I just looked it up too.

901
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:50,320
- God damn it.

902
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:51,160
- Sorry, man.

903
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:52,000
Someone beat you to it.

904
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:52,820
- It's open source.

905
00:32:52,820 --> 00:32:53,660
- This is fun.

906
00:32:53,660 --> 00:32:54,500
- It's open source.

907
00:32:54,500 --> 00:32:56,400
That means that like anybody can do this.

908
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,300
Like they've given away the training manual

909
00:32:59,300 --> 00:33:01,500
and now every theme park in the nation

910
00:33:01,500 --> 00:33:03,600
could have crows on demand.

911
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:04,440
- Every beach?

912
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,640
- This is actually way cooler than what I was picturing.

913
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,320
- It's like the cats at Disney.

914
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:09,640
- There's cats at Disney?

915
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,400
- Oh, you haven't heard about the Disney cats?

916
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:12,240
- No.

917
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:13,060
- Yeah, the cats.

918
00:33:13,060 --> 00:33:15,120
Yeah, they got a bunch of cats to keep the mice away.

919
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:16,720
- They like house and feed them.

920
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:17,560
- Really cool.

921
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,120
- I guess that makes sense.

922
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:20,320
- And at night they all come out.

923
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:21,160
- Whoa.

924
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:22,760
- Oh my God, I gotta watch this TED talk.

925
00:33:25,340 --> 00:33:30,680
All right, Leo, what's your Varsity idea for this week?

926
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:31,680
- I've got a really simple one.

927
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,680
All you need is some space, a big warehouse.

928
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:35,520
You ready for this?

929
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:36,840
It's another simple one that can be boiled down

930
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:37,960
to just a couple of words.

931
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:42,200
Store for single socks, single shoes, single boots.

932
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:43,520
If someone comes to your store,

933
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,840
you just have every make, model, whatever,

934
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,960
of shoe, boot, sock that you have.

935
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:52,060
And you on the inside buy a regular pair

936
00:33:52,060 --> 00:33:53,360
of New Balance, whatever.

937
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:54,760
You buy a pair of whatever socks

938
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,600
and you ship just one of them

939
00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:00,440
because I'm sick of losing just one of socks,

940
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,600
kid shoes, sandals, whatever.

941
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,440
And the washer dryer eats them up, right?

942
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,400
Wherever the heck they end up going.

943
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,200
I have many one single socks.

944
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:11,800
I don't know where the heck they go.

945
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,360
I think that they're just in my washing machine

946
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,800
in the unreachable spots or something.

947
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:17,640
I don't know.

948
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:21,340
But I would go to a store and pay 60% of the cost

949
00:34:21,340 --> 00:34:24,440
for 50% of the product and just get one back.

950
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,640
- Leo, I love this.

951
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:30,400
- All you have to do is buy a pair of two socks

952
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,920
and then you sell it and you make 10% profit, right?

953
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:34,040
On each sale.

954
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,640
- I have a basket of single socks.

955
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:37,480
- Right.

956
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,080
- Next to my basket of match socks.

957
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:41,000
And I keep saying,

958
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,120
"Oh, I'll find the matching sock eventually."

959
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:43,960
I never do.

960
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,400
- And I'm up to like a dozen or more single ones

961
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,040
and I have never seen them.

962
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:50,920
And I need to part with them.

963
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,920
But would you go to a store and name what kind they are?

964
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:56,120
Some of my socks are nice.

965
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,600
- So I think you said like mail it off.

966
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,320
This could be like a set, like,

967
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,200
"Okay, here's my sock, match it and mail it back to me."

968
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:04,040
Like an Amazon thing.

969
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:04,960
- Or an exchange.

970
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,960
Maybe you mail it in and that goes to someone else's house

971
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,200
as their complete set.

972
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:10,880
And then you in return have a credit

973
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,000
that you can spend when you need to.

974
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,880
- So similar but different.

975
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,640
I saw this YouTube video of amputees.

976
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:23,280
And what they do is they find people with the opposite leg,

977
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:27,360
but the same shoe size and they exchange shoes.

978
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:28,400
So they're like,

979
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,600
I don't know if it's an online like chat or like meetup,

980
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,200
but it's something where like you go and you find,

981
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:35,440
"Hey, I've got a right leg.

982
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,200
You've got a left leg size 10.

983
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:38,680
Let's just, you buy a pair of shoes,

984
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,280
I buy a pair of shoes and we'll trade shoes."

985
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:42,120
- Unreal.

986
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:43,120
- It's so great.

987
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,520
How many amputees out there wish that they could go

988
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,240
to my cool new website that I just registered

989
00:35:48,240 --> 00:35:50,160
and shop for every kind of shoe.

990
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,440
And we just buy the pair of shoes on the backend

991
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,080
and ship them the one, charge them, you know,

992
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:56,720
60, 70% of the cost.

993
00:35:56,720 --> 00:35:58,280
And then we have the other one on hand

994
00:35:58,280 --> 00:35:59,600
for when someone else comes along.

995
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,360
And then over time we accrue more and more

996
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:02,640
and more and more single ones

997
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,040
'cause no one's buying the other one.

998
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:06,840
Yeah, maybe donate it to Goodwill.

999
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,080
I don't know what you do with it.

1000
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,440
- Leo, just picture in a dedicated app

1001
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,360
that you have for this where you scan your socks

1002
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,680
and it just pulls up the match on your website

1003
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,000
and just all ready to go in your cart and you ship it out.

1004
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:18,760
- What you could also do is like,

1005
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,000
if I mail you a single sock,

1006
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:26,480
you could mail me back a fresh new pair of like matched socks

1007
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,400
and then you could just hold the single sock

1008
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,880
until someone sends you the matching one.

1009
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,160
And it would also cut down on textile waste,

1010
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:34,560
which is a huge problem.

1011
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:35,880
- Yeah, you gotta filter out the ones

1012
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,880
that are obviously like too worn.

1013
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:39,400
I know that Goodwill has a big problem with that

1014
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,480
and Salvation Army, they'll get a lot of donations

1015
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,960
for garbage that really is past its usability.

1016
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:49,960
But if you're able to take in a stream of you and I's pile

1017
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,240
of socks that we cannot find matches for anymore,

1018
00:36:53,240 --> 00:36:58,040
everyone who donates into that bucket gets a few sock bucks

1019
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,480
that they could spend on the completed matches

1020
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,240
that we're unable to assemble.

1021
00:37:02,240 --> 00:37:03,560
That could scale.

1022
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,720
That would be tedious for the poor wage slaves

1023
00:37:06,720 --> 00:37:10,520
who have to match socks all day, every day, forever.

1024
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:11,800
(laughing)

1025
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,880
That is truly doubtful.

1026
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,760
- Okay, okay, I'm gonna spin this a little to say like,

1027
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:20,040
all right, you lose one sock, you send that sock in,

1028
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:23,920
they destroy it and recycle it, upcycle it

1029
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:25,840
to make two socks, right?

1030
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:30,640
Or, you know, instead of using it as raw material,

1031
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:34,760
it could duplicate itself, turn one into two, right?

1032
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:35,720
'Cause I feel like--

1033
00:37:35,720 --> 00:37:36,840
- Turn it back to yarn, yeah.

1034
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:40,480
- Yeah, or, you know, I have a bunch of one socks,

1035
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,760
I would love to recycle that sock 'cause, hell,

1036
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,760
nobody's gonna find the other one maybe.

1037
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:50,000
Give me a pair back and now there's some sort of,

1038
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,760
I don't know, money logistics thing

1039
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,600
that solves for that, right?

1040
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:59,680
- Hmm, I think you just discovered or pitched recycling.

1041
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:00,920
(laughing)

1042
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:05,480
- It's kind of like the Tom Shue's model for one sock.

1043
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:10,480
You donate one sock, you get a pair back, right?

1044
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,800
- I don't think your math works there.

1045
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:17,920
For every one sock you give us, we'll give you two back.

1046
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:18,760
It's a great business.

1047
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,640
- Yeah, I just, no, it's true.

1048
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,560
I just, you know what, I have a hard time figuring out,

1049
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,640
like, if I were to give this one sock

1050
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:29,000
that I know I only have one sock, maybe they duplicate it.

1051
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,160
Maybe they look at my sock and they're like,

1052
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,320
you know what, I bet I could copy this sock.

1053
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,040
Like, literally, like, because I don't think it'd be

1054
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,640
that hard to create another sock that looks very similar

1055
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,240
or a shoe or something, I don't know.

1056
00:38:43,240 --> 00:38:45,640
There might be something there to, like, do that.

1057
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:47,680
- Instead of writing Nike on it, you write Nacky

1058
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:51,280
and then you're suddenly like a Chinese, you know,

1059
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,800
copyright infringing knockoff dealer.

1060
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:54,720
That's awesome.

1061
00:38:54,720 --> 00:38:57,400
- It's tailoring, right?

1062
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,200
It's not trying to clone anything.

1063
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,040
- We've tailored you another identical sock

1064
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:04,560
that says New Balance on it.

1065
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,560
- Yeah, no, I don't think that's illegal, right?

1066
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:08,640
- Ah!

1067
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:12,280
- You could even just start your own sock company

1068
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:13,440
where the whole motto is like,

1069
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,880
hey, all of our socks look the same.

1070
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,040
So when you lose the pair,

1071
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,360
like, we'll just send you another one.

1072
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:21,880
- What a concept.

1073
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:23,760
It's so simple, I love it.

1074
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,160
Why is that not a thing?

1075
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,280
- Yeah, I've been very slowly trying to transition

1076
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:31,440
my collection from cheap 24-pack awful socks

1077
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,000
to, like, nice wool ones, and it's been great,

1078
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,560
but they are all different and it sucks

1079
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,360
that that's the downside to it.

1080
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,440
'Cause I lived that life, I would just have, you know,

1081
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,520
50 pairs of identical white cheap Hanes socks

1082
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,800
and it was fine, like, it was not great or not terrible,

1083
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:48,720
but it is a real upgrade to get nice socks.

1084
00:39:48,720 --> 00:39:49,840
I would highly recommend it.

1085
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,120
I've reached that point in my life

1086
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:52,800
where I'm excited to get socks as a gift

1087
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:54,960
and I've just come to accept that about myself now.

1088
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:55,800
- Welcome to your 30s.

1089
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:56,920
- It's like true middle age.

1090
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:57,760
- It really is.

1091
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,400
- Socks and your Christmas stocking

1092
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,040
is now, like, the best thing ever,

1093
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:02,400
rather than the worst.

1094
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:03,680
- Feels like a personal attack, Leo.

1095
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,800
I go to Costco and I buy the Puma, like,

1096
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:10,280
80 pairs of the low-cut ankle socks.

1097
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:11,120
- And they're all the same

1098
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,160
and you don't have this problem and I'm jealous.

1099
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,880
- Yeah, that's because I've bought so many packs of them,

1100
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,400
like, literally, I can't even shut the drawer on my socks.

1101
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:22,360
I have to make sure there are enough dirty socks

1102
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,920
so that I can close my clean drawer sock.

1103
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:26,520
But, you know, I don't know if this is

1104
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:27,800
too much of a curveball here,

1105
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,320
but I feel like there's a market for,

1106
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,160
like, a really, like, that missing sock.

1107
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:35,440
And there are some cases where you're like,

1108
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,640
oh man, I love this pair of socks,

1109
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,600
or I have, like, shirts that I really like

1110
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,520
that are way past, like, they're overworn,

1111
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,480
they've lost their color, they're worn out.

1112
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,480
If I could send my shirt to a company

1113
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,720
because I have a lot of sentimental value or whatever,

1114
00:40:52,720 --> 00:40:57,400
it could recreate it or make a like-new version of that.

1115
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:58,960
That would be really cool.

1116
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:00,960
'Cause, like, if it is like a cheapo sock,

1117
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:02,760
like, it does make sense, like, you know,

1118
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,400
just throw it out and buy, like, a pack of 80 again.

1119
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,680
But if it's a really nice sock or shirt

1120
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,520
or sentimental or pants or whatever,

1121
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,040
like, it's a mix of, like,

1122
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,080
like, I have this dress shirt right here that I'm,

1123
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:18,080
it's definitely past its time of use.

1124
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,920
And I would just love an exact same shirt.

1125
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:22,360
Just get me the same one.

1126
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,360
- Renewal service, refurbishment.

1127
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:25,200
- Low subscription.

1128
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,400
Yeah, or, like, get me a brand new one for all I care.

1129
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:32,120
Like, if you can't fix it or restore it or refurbish it,

1130
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,000
just, like, I will pay 80,

1131
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,200
I will pay more than I paid for the original shirt

1132
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,120
to get the same exact shirt

1133
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:40,440
'cause I don't have to think about it.

1134
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:41,520
I don't know if you guys have that,

1135
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:42,640
I hate buying clothes,

1136
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:44,800
so that's probably a little bit of a curveball.

1137
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:46,120
So just, yeah. - Me too.

1138
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:47,600
- If I find a shirt that I like,

1139
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,120
I just, get me 100 versions of that shirt,

1140
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:51,560
but I don't wanna store it all in my house,

1141
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:55,160
so, like, can you just keep it for 100 years?

1142
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,000
And I'll buy it when I need it or something?

1143
00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:59,840
- Well, I feel like you could have,

1144
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:01,320
like I said, a subscription service.

1145
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,720
So be like, I'm gonna subscribe to this shirt.

1146
00:42:03,720 --> 00:42:05,720
So every, like, three years,

1147
00:42:05,720 --> 00:42:08,120
they'll just send you the same shirt.

1148
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:08,960
- Oh. - Oh.

1149
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:10,360
- And then that way you'll just keep, like--

1150
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:11,560
- That's interesting. - Rehabbing,

1151
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,160
like, refreshing the shirt that you really like.

1152
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,320
- Yeah, then you never have to worry about your sock,

1153
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,320
missing sock, you just get new ones.

1154
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:19,720
- And you don't have to go shopping

1155
00:42:19,720 --> 00:42:21,040
'cause you have something you like.

1156
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:22,400
You can go on a website and be like,

1157
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,440
I'm gonna subscribe to that shirt,

1158
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,000
and then they'll just send it to you every couple years.

1159
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,480
- And you look the same in every family photo

1160
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,200
from the '90s until now. - I try that.

1161
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:32,160
Change the color.

1162
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:35,400
You know, every other year, you can mix it up,

1163
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,840
but it still fits the same, yeah.

1164
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,880
- I just wanna give Leo a warehouse and see what happens.

1165
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:42,360
- Just use my garage.

1166
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,160
- I'm gonna end up with a lot of single socks

1167
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:45,600
that I have no matches for.

1168
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,800
- I'm just drowning in a sea of socks.

1169
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,320
- I swear I saw one that looked just like this

1170
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,120
somewhere in this warehouse.

1171
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:53,680
- Just be dreaming in socks.

1172
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:54,600
- I think there are a lot of people

1173
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,200
that would just buy one sock, you know what I'm saying?

1174
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,120
- I know the brands and styles

1175
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:00,760
of the ones I have singles of.

1176
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,000
I know it's a lot to ask of like,

1177
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:04,480
here, just find me matches,

1178
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,320
but if I was able to go to a place and say,

1179
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,840
I need one of these blue darn tough socks,

1180
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,960
I need one of these whatever hiking socks,

1181
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:13,880
I would pay the discount.

1182
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:15,400
I don't want to buy another pair

1183
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,240
because then I have three, not one.

1184
00:43:17,240 --> 00:43:18,240
- Yes. - Yeah, no?

1185
00:43:18,240 --> 00:43:22,120
Or I have a pair of Keens where my dog chewed on one of them

1186
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,560
and the buckle thing is all torn up and stuff.

1187
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,480
I would replace just one of them if I could.

1188
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,360
I guess if they had a refurbishment, I could do that.

1189
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,000
But yeah, sometimes things are damaged beyond repair

1190
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,080
for just one of two things.

1191
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,680
Your mittens, I went skiing years ago

1192
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,000
and I tore up one of my gloves

1193
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:40,880
holding onto the tow rope too long

1194
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:42,280
and the other one's fine still,

1195
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,120
but I guess I'm just gonna throw away both of them

1196
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,080
because one of them's all screwed up.

1197
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:47,280
I would buy a single glove from that company.

1198
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,880
- What if, Leo, instead of trying to replace the glove,

1199
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:54,920
you sent, like, Ally has a basket of one socks, right?

1200
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:58,280
What if you sent the whole basket of gloves, socks,

1201
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,800
whatever, and they, I guess this is recycling again,

1202
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:05,560
but they turned it into something that you wanted, right?

1203
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,240
So they took your stuff, they took your materials

1204
00:44:08,240 --> 00:44:11,800
and turned it into a blanket or, yeah.

1205
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:13,320
- I was gonna say, the company

1206
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,080
that does the T-shirt blankets.

1207
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,160
- Sock blanket. (laughs)

1208
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:18,720
This is my old sweaty socks.

1209
00:44:18,720 --> 00:44:19,560
Isn't it great?

1210
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:20,400
Snuggle up.

1211
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,520
- Sure, there's a very specific audience

1212
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:24,480
on the internet for that, so.

1213
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,160
- Yeah, right now. (laughs)

1214
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,560
- The same people who buy Gamer Girl bath water, I think.

1215
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:29,920
- That's what I was going for earlier

1216
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:31,040
with the one sock thing.

1217
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:32,360
Like, people would just buy the sock

1218
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,360
as long as you didn't clean it, you know?

1219
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:35,560
(laughs)

1220
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,160
- Oh no, they don't want it clean.

1221
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:38,000
- Yeah, I was gonna say.

1222
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:39,240
- Not at all, right, yeah.

1223
00:44:41,820 --> 00:44:46,680
- All right, Ally, what have you brought for us this week?

1224
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:50,240
- So I am a very ADHD person

1225
00:44:50,240 --> 00:44:53,080
and I live by the to-do list.

1226
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:54,640
But as an ADHD person,

1227
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:58,440
I also have the object permanence of an infant.

1228
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,520
If I don't see it, it doesn't exist.

1229
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,960
Like, out of sight, out of mind is very real.

1230
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,360
I want a visual to-do list

1231
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:12,100
where I can take a picture of the chore I need to do.

1232
00:45:12,100 --> 00:45:14,320
The dirty dishes in the sink,

1233
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,320
the laundry basket of clothes,

1234
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,080
the bag I need to go to Old Navy and return.

1235
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:22,840
And I want, maybe we've got all these AI advancements,

1236
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:24,740
it can make me a to-do list,

1237
00:45:24,740 --> 00:45:27,760
but I want a to-do list app

1238
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,200
where I can take a picture of the chore I need to do

1239
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:31,760
and then it'll make me a to-do list

1240
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:33,640
and I'll have all its little pictures of the things

1241
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:34,760
so I can look at it and be like,

1242
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:36,800
oh yeah, I need to walk back to the kitchen

1243
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:38,000
and do my dishes.

1244
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:38,840
- Ooh.

1245
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:39,980
- You can swipe right and swipe left

1246
00:45:39,980 --> 00:45:42,400
on the pictures of the things I need to do.

1247
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,120
That's for tomorrow, that's for tomorrow.

1248
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:45,520
Oh no, I'll do that one now.

1249
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:47,440
- Well, the other idea I had,

1250
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,240
kind of like thinking of it, is I would love it

1251
00:45:49,240 --> 00:45:52,560
if then I could put like a timer on the to-do item

1252
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:54,120
and then it would buzz me, be like,

1253
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,680
hey, this is a chore you need to do today.

1254
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:58,600
Buzz me like 8.30, like hey,

1255
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:00,960
you're gonna get ready for bed, go do your dishes.

1256
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:02,520
- This is what your dishes look like, Ali.

1257
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,160
- Scott, is there some kind of physical product

1258
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:07,240
that you could recommend that--

1259
00:46:07,240 --> 00:46:08,960
- Ali, I love this so much.

1260
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,640
I have struggled with ADD the entire life.

1261
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:13,920
I just got this in the mail yesterday.

1262
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,300
This is a board I have been designing

1263
00:46:16,300 --> 00:46:20,200
that is literally, I put, so describing this out loud,

1264
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,000
it's just a rectangular board

1265
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,880
with different spots on it to put tasks,

1266
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,680
things I need to do daily, weekly, whatever.

1267
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,680
I have LEDs on one side that'll light up

1268
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:33,860
when it is time to do that task.

1269
00:46:33,860 --> 00:46:36,560
It is Sunday night, you need to take out the trash

1270
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,720
and this LED will light up on it.

1271
00:46:38,720 --> 00:46:40,640
When it is completed, I hit the button

1272
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:44,120
to be like it is done and the LED turns off and goes on.

1273
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,840
And I wanna combine this with what you're saying,

1274
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,740
which is just like I can take a picture of something of,

1275
00:46:49,740 --> 00:46:51,100
that's just the easiest way.

1276
00:46:51,100 --> 00:46:52,760
Oh my God, there's something I need to do later.

1277
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:54,180
I take a quick snap of it

1278
00:46:54,180 --> 00:46:55,740
and then it's already gone from my mind.

1279
00:46:55,740 --> 00:46:56,920
I move down to the next thing.

1280
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,920
Combine it with something that literally shines in my face

1281
00:46:59,920 --> 00:47:03,120
to be like you need to do this at this time now.

1282
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,400
- Yes, that is exactly what I need.

1283
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,840
- I love that so much.

1284
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,560
So, okay, you have, Scott,

1285
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,440
you have the Ring cameras in your home, right?

1286
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,480
Could you use it to make the list

1287
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,040
so like you could see how dirty your dishes are

1288
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,600
and it sends you a picture of your dishes

1289
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,080
or your garbage can?

1290
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,600
Like this is, you know, like the state of your chore.

1291
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:28,200
- That's nuts.

1292
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,240
- The litter box has passed the threshold of dirty

1293
00:47:31,240 --> 00:47:32,680
and now it's lit up.

1294
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:34,880
- I'm gonna have to put money in the AI swear jar.

1295
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:36,840
We're not supposed to talk about AI here,

1296
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,880
but like, yes, Russell, you could,

1297
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:41,560
with everything that's been going on nowadays,

1298
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:44,280
like how hard could it be to train an AI to be like,

1299
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:45,560
tell me what's in this picture.

1300
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:49,200
Do you see a full garbage can or an empty garbage can?

1301
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,200
Throw that with some if this, then that,

1302
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,880
and be like, hey, it's time to take out the garbage

1303
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,300
or the dishes are piling up in the sink.

1304
00:47:56,300 --> 00:47:57,400
It's time to do this.

1305
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,760
- Hey, you need to go replace the toilet paper

1306
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:01,640
in the bathroom before you get in there

1307
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:03,560
and realize you need to replace the toilet paper

1308
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:04,440
in the bathroom.

1309
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,040
'Cause I don't remember to do that when I'm done.

1310
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,440
I'm like, that is a problem for a future Ali.

1311
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,200
- Thousands of hours of toilet videos.

1312
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:14,640
- She said a hundred of these little automations in there.

1313
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:19,520
- The AI has to sift through those poor AI models.

1314
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:23,040
- If there's ever an AI uprising, they're gonna be pissed.

1315
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,520
- Literally pissed with water.

1316
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,360
No, anyways, no, but that's a great example.

1317
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,840
- Have you ever just taken a picture of anything

1318
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,300
and uploaded it to chat GPT and then like,

1319
00:48:33,300 --> 00:48:36,280
describe this to me and how much detail it'll go into

1320
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,240
of everything that's in that picture?

1321
00:48:38,240 --> 00:48:41,680
- I see a Labrador slash Husky breed

1322
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,000
that is sitting on next to a fireplace

1323
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:45,920
that is this color and the blah, blah, blah.

1324
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:47,960
It just goes into so much detail.

1325
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,240
It absolutely could tell if a trash can is full

1326
00:48:50,240 --> 00:48:52,080
or if there's dishes in the sink or something

1327
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:53,560
or if the toilet paper needs to be refilled.

1328
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:54,400
- Yeah, exactly.

1329
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,640
- Going back to the to-do list,

1330
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:59,600
that would be so easy to like take a picture of something.

1331
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,400
And then if you want to have the picture to-do list,

1332
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,440
that's great, but you could have an AI program

1333
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,200
that would convert it to a text to-do list.

1334
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:08,840
- Yes, an actual task.

1335
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,160
- I love checking boxes and crossing things off

1336
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:12,000
on my to-do list.

1337
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,280
It makes me feel like making my to-do list,

1338
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:17,440
I write make to-do list and I cross it off at the bottom

1339
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,040
'cause it makes me feel productive.

1340
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:19,880
- That's cool. - Totally.

1341
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,240
- I've bounced off of task list apps before.

1342
00:49:22,240 --> 00:49:24,280
And I think partly because of the friction

1343
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:25,680
of getting stuff into them.

1344
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:27,560
I don't want to like stop what I'm doing

1345
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:28,420
and remember to get it in there.

1346
00:49:28,420 --> 00:49:30,120
So if it was a quick, you know,

1347
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,520
take a picture of the thing and you're done as the input,

1348
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:34,400
that rules, like it'll figure out

1349
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:35,960
what you're trying to say actually.

1350
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,480
- Yes, it could even ask like the one confirmation.

1351
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:40,400
You take the picture and one confirmation pop up.

1352
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,960
Did you mean to do a task to do the dishes or something?

1353
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:43,800
You don't have to type anything.

1354
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,560
You just hit yes on there and move on.

1355
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:48,640
- Are you listening to do list or somebody?

1356
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:50,860
- I could take a picture of my kitchen and be like,

1357
00:49:50,860 --> 00:49:52,200
did you mean to do dishes?

1358
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:53,040
Check yes.

1359
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:54,680
Did you mean to wipe off counter?

1360
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:55,880
Yes, like.

1361
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,280
- Rapid fire, the seven different suggestions.

1362
00:49:58,280 --> 00:49:59,400
Yes, no, no, yes, no.

1363
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,300
- The ability to just snap a picture.

1364
00:50:02,300 --> 00:50:03,800
Oh, Ali, that is so good.

1365
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:04,640
- There's something there for sure.

1366
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:06,760
- I think the, like, so you know,

1367
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:08,920
when you see your completed checklist,

1368
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:09,920
you're like super sad.

1369
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,880
Imagine just a photo gallery of all your chores

1370
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:14,560
that you completed this week.

1371
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:15,400
How sad is that?

1372
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,520
- It's like a green checkbox on all of them.

1373
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:20,940
- I love seeing the TikToks of like come clean with me

1374
00:50:20,940 --> 00:50:23,680
and they do the before and after

1375
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:25,600
or like the time lapse of the cleaning.

1376
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:27,240
I will never do that.

1377
00:50:27,240 --> 00:50:29,280
But if I had an app where it was like,

1378
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,720
take a picture of the chore and then when it's done,

1379
00:50:31,720 --> 00:50:32,940
I can take another picture.

1380
00:50:32,940 --> 00:50:35,080
And there was like a little animation

1381
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:36,320
that made me feel happy.

1382
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,280
Like, give me the dopamine, please.

1383
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:39,920
- Here's your year in review.

1384
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,960
You've cleaned 6,000 plates this year.

1385
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:44,800
- Your week in review of your chores.

1386
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:45,980
But I mean, like, imagine,

1387
00:50:45,980 --> 00:50:49,760
I think there's something actually incredibly psychological

1388
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:53,240
about training yourself to love doing chores

1389
00:50:53,240 --> 00:50:57,940
by like getting multiple dopamine hits from one chore.

1390
00:50:57,940 --> 00:50:59,280
Like, I think there's like a pro,

1391
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,760
like a literal mental programming

1392
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:06,360
that you can do, this app turns you into a chore machine.

1393
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,600
And now you're like, yeah, addicted to chores.

1394
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:10,720
I don't know.

1395
00:51:10,720 --> 00:51:13,840
- You could make it at a game,

1396
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:15,520
compete with your friends

1397
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:18,480
who has completed their dishes first tonight.

1398
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,560
Like, I challenge Scott, like,

1399
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:24,040
hey, who's gonna remember to take the trash out first?

1400
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:25,560
- Photo proof required.

1401
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:28,640
- Or you have a particularly like terrible chore

1402
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:31,200
and you're like, look at this dish pile.

1403
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:33,880
Like, you're just social.

1404
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:35,280
- The final boss.

1405
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:38,040
- Yeah, like taking the embarrassment

1406
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,320
out of dirty homes or whatever.

1407
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:44,040
You're like, my mess today, my mess tomorrow.

1408
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,440
And it's like dirty clean, right?

1409
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:49,520
Like something about the authentic elements

1410
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,320
of social media, you post about it, right?

1411
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:53,240
I don't know.

1412
00:51:53,240 --> 00:51:56,320
- Well, if we wanna make this like more addictive,

1413
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,240
you add the social media component

1414
00:51:58,240 --> 00:51:59,840
and you say like, oh my God,

1415
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:02,760
add me on like chorely.com.

1416
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:04,960
And then like your friends can comment like,

1417
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:08,240
you go girl, like vacuum that floor.

1418
00:52:08,240 --> 00:52:12,200
- Whoa, what if, do you guys have like honey do lists?

1419
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:13,200
Are you, you know what I mean?

1420
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:14,440
Like, okay.

1421
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:16,080
- My husband works at a hardware store.

1422
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,720
My honey do list is very long.

1423
00:52:18,720 --> 00:52:20,840
- So like wives, let's say,

1424
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:25,840
will gamify their husbands into competitions.

1425
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:27,960
- Yes.

1426
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:29,320
- This one's worth 12 points.

1427
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:31,160
- This might be something.

1428
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,000
- This might need a whole nother spit ball here.

1429
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:34,640
Husbands are completely oblivious.

1430
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:36,000
They have no idea.

1431
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:36,840
- Yes.

1432
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:38,200
- Well, it's like how, you know,

1433
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,080
peer pressure as an adult is watching

1434
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,160
your neighbor mow their lawn.

1435
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,960
Be like, oh, my neighbor vacuumed today.

1436
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:46,360
I guess I should vacuum too.

1437
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:50,000
- Guys, I think that like competitive honey do lists would,

1438
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:54,040
I think just, there might be a destruction of society,

1439
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:55,600
the fabric of society.

1440
00:52:58,080 --> 00:52:59,760
- No, it would be so efficient.

1441
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:01,200
- Wives sitting on the couch,

1442
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:02,800
just manipulating their husbands

1443
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:04,880
into being meatheads against each other.

1444
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:05,720
That's great.

1445
00:53:05,720 --> 00:53:08,360
- I think the momentum of it existing

1446
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:10,160
would just be like all of it.

1447
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:11,720
Like it wouldn't even be wives competing

1448
00:53:11,720 --> 00:53:12,760
against each other at some point.

1449
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:15,600
It would just turn into men competing against each other

1450
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,280
all of a sudden because wives started it

1451
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:20,960
and then it just, it's a mind of its own at that point

1452
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:24,240
because the male competitiveness.

1453
00:53:24,240 --> 00:53:27,720
- Which has been their plan all along from the beginning.

1454
00:53:27,720 --> 00:53:29,160
- Oh my gosh.

1455
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:30,560
That's a dangerous Spitball.

1456
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:32,120
Like I feel maybe.

1457
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:32,960
- That's a good one.

1458
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:33,800
- Ally, you're the,

1459
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:34,760
(laughing)

1460
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,160
Ally, Ally's sitting here like sitting on

1461
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,080
a billion dollar idea.

1462
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:43,360
Like I'm gonna turn every man into a chore machine

1463
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:45,680
through gamification.

1464
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:46,520
- Competition.

1465
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:48,120
- Hey, I was just thinking about this for myself,

1466
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:50,680
but if I'm gonna get y'all to do the chores for me,

1467
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:52,320
bonus points.

1468
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:53,880
- Leo did more chores this week

1469
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:55,680
and now my wife's telling me about it

1470
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:59,120
and now I gotta fricking do 10,000 steps

1471
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:00,440
and do my chores.

1472
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:01,680
(laughing)

1473
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:03,400
- Of like a weekly leaderboard.

1474
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:04,320
- You're not measuring steps,

1475
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:08,200
you're measuring miles traveled holding a vacuum.

1476
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:12,480
- You could get sponsors and then like

1477
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:13,720
on the weekly leaderboard,

1478
00:54:13,720 --> 00:54:14,560
they could have like,

1479
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:16,520
"Oh, you've won like a $10 gift card.

1480
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:18,280
"Like take your wife out for coffee."

1481
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,760
- You just won the Windex Weekly Window Wiping Champion.

1482
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:22,880
- Yeah.

1483
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:24,080
- There's the ads.

1484
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:25,160
(laughing)

1485
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:26,720
- You've earned a date night.

1486
00:54:26,720 --> 00:54:28,880
- Win a free Dyson vacuum.

1487
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,640
- Ooh, if I could win myself some like scrub daddies,

1488
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:32,880
I would be all for that.

1489
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:35,280
- Guys, is this like a thing that could happen?

1490
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:38,080
Like this feels weirdly like,

1491
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:39,280
there are stupider apps,

1492
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,520
I guess is what I'm thinking that are more successful.

1493
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:44,720
Like way more stupid, way more successful.

1494
00:54:44,720 --> 00:54:45,840
Like, I don't know.

1495
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:48,400
- We grew up in the generation where we had apps

1496
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,960
that were literally pretend Zippo lights on our phones.

1497
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:53,280
Do you guys remember that?

1498
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:54,600
- Fart apps and yeah.

1499
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:56,240
- Fart apps like.

1500
00:54:56,240 --> 00:54:58,280
- These apps are all about the networking effect, right?

1501
00:54:58,280 --> 00:54:59,840
You gotta have like other people on there

1502
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:01,560
to feel like there's a community there.

1503
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:05,040
So how do you incentivize initial signups?

1504
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:07,840
- I mean, I think part of the social media element

1505
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:11,120
of that to be like, "Hey, add me on this app."

1506
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:13,160
- I think it starts as a to-do list.

1507
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:17,000
It evolves into the social media elements.

1508
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:17,840
So like you can't.

1509
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,120
- Reel them in with the picture thing, yeah.

1510
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:21,120
- And then you add like,

1511
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:24,200
"Share your chore with your friend."

1512
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,440
And then sharing your chore is,

1513
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:28,760
"Compete against your chore lists."

1514
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:29,600
Right?

1515
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:31,640
And then all of a sudden it turns into.

1516
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:32,680
- That's true.

1517
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:35,480
- Husbands kill each other over chore lists.

1518
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:37,240
(laughing)

1519
00:55:37,240 --> 00:55:39,600
- I'm gonna go throw a rock into my neighbor's window

1520
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:41,040
so they have an extra chore.

1521
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:42,760
I get ahead of them.

1522
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:43,600
- That's just more points.

1523
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:44,440
- Clean up the class.

1524
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:45,680
- No, that's cheating.

1525
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:46,520
- That's right.

1526
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:48,960
Neighbors are doing their husband's chores.

1527
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:49,800
- I was just gonna say,

1528
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:53,000
you wanna do their lawn and yours to get the bonus points

1529
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,480
and disincentivize them from getting the points this week.

1530
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:57,920
- I'm gonna shovel so many driveways this winter.

1531
00:55:57,920 --> 00:55:59,240
- Exactly, right.

1532
00:55:59,240 --> 00:56:00,440
- That's the power of this app.

1533
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:04,240
I think there's something dangerous.

1534
00:56:04,240 --> 00:56:05,480
- Competition, man.

1535
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:06,680
- See, but at the base of it,

1536
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:10,800
I really do just want a visual to-do list.

1537
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,600
And I want something where I can take a picture

1538
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:14,840
and then walk away,

1539
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:17,960
'cause that is the amount of attention span I have.

1540
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,200
I take the picture, I go somewhere else,

1541
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,880
and then I still have the image where I can look at it.

1542
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,680
And be like, oh yeah, I didn't just forget about that

1543
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:27,680
'cause I walked through a doorway.

1544
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:29,520
- Facebook just started out as sharing pictures

1545
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:31,200
with their friends, and now look at them.

1546
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:32,280
Evil corporation.

1547
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,840
I'm just, Chorleys, Chorleys.

1548
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:36,880
- So many evil corporations tonight.

1549
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:37,720
- I guess so.

1550
00:56:37,720 --> 00:56:38,920
- Just a couple steps in between.

1551
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:40,360
- No, I like the idea of a visual.

1552
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,000
I don't know why that's not a,

1553
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,720
it just seems like a accessibility thing too.

1554
00:56:44,720 --> 00:56:47,600
- There's gotta be someone listening to that to-do list

1555
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:50,800
right now, or I don't know, Apple Reminders.

1556
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:53,080
That's gonna be at WWDC 2025.

1557
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:54,280
New feature to Reminders.

1558
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:56,760
Take a photo, we'll use Apple intelligence

1559
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:58,320
to turn it into a task.

1560
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:01,440
- Or I think Ali's idea of being just photo-centric,

1561
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:04,600
like photo-forward instead of an add-on to an existing,

1562
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:07,160
it's just something's inherently different about that.

1563
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:10,080
And you have to, if you lean into the whole photo element,

1564
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:13,040
I think it's more different and fun,

1565
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:14,960
'cause everybody has their own way to do to-do lists.

1566
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:16,920
And it's just, I don't know, the photos sound better.

1567
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:19,520
- Well, and like Leo said before,

1568
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:22,240
my biggest problem with any to-do list app

1569
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:25,520
is the input element, where it just takes more time

1570
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:27,640
for me to input it into the phone,

1571
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:30,280
where if I could very quickly do it,

1572
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:32,680
it would be such a game changer.

1573
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:35,040
And a photo is the fastest way to do it.

1574
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:36,800
- We could do this with a Polaroid camera right now.

1575
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:40,920
Like just put the Polaroid on a stack of Polaroid tours.

1576
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:43,160
I don't know, that'd just be wasteful.

1577
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:48,080
There's the MVP, yeah, I guess, is the Polaroid camera.

1578
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:50,560
(laughing)

1579
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:53,440
- Oh, one of my tasks was clean up Polaroid mess.

1580
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:54,280
That's right.

1581
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:56,480
- Taking a picture of the Polaroid.

1582
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:59,400
- It's a picture of the stack of pictures.

1583
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:00,400
- That's amazing.

1584
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:01,800
- Thank you for listening, listener.

1585
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:05,080
We hope you enjoyed yourself, you new chore machine.

1586
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:06,520
And thank you, Ali, for being here.

1587
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:07,760
This was a lovely time.

1588
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:08,800
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1589
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,280
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1590
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:13,000
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1591
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,840
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1592
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:18,560
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1593
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:20,280
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1594
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:21,120
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1595
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:23,440
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1596
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:26,240
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1597
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:29,000
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1598
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:30,840
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1599
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,400
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1600
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:34,480
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1601
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:35,720
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1602
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1603
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1604
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1605
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:45,080
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1606
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1607
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