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- I'm Scott.

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- I'm Russell.

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- And I'm Leo.

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This is Spitball.

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Welcome to Spitball,

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where three technotacticians and a guest, that's us,

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empty our heads of all the startup and tech product ideas

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that we have stuck up in there,

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so you can all have them for free.

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Anything that we say is yours to keep.

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And this week, I brought our guest.

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This week, we're having a very special guest,

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because he's not just a friend of ours

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that we've baited into joining us on the show.

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This week, we're welcoming Chase, Chase Roberts,

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author and Arduino enthusiast,

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computer scientist, former app developer,

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and successful twice Kickstarter champion.

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Chase, welcome to Spitball.

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- Thank you, thank you so much.

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It's fun to be here.

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- Chase is the author of "Computer Engineering for Babies."

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Your website again, what is that?

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- Computerengineeringforbabies.com.

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- Perfect, you just came out with a sequel, right?

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- Yeah, so, yeah, just this last,

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well, I guess it's been a few months now,

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"Computer Engineering for Big Babies."

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So that's the sequel book.

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I'm thinking about doing a third book.

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- A secret project.

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- A third, I'm thinking about doing

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a third computer engineering book.

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- Sweet.

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- But I'm not sure what that's gonna look like yet.

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But I, and I'm working on another book

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that's not computer engineering

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that I'm really excited about.

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But yeah, I'm not ready to go public with it quite yet.

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- I get that.

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- I just placed an order for your first two books

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like 40 seconds ago.

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- Nice.

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- And my two and four year old absolutely adore

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the buttons and switches and lights,

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and we have a good time with it.

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It's a successful product in our household.

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- Great gifts.

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- Great gifts.

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- I'm glad you're liking it.

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- We're at the age where a lot of our friends

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have all gotten married now and the babies are starting,

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and it's a perfect little like, hey, you're a nerd.

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Your kid will love this and you will too.

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- It's wonderful.

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All right, as we do always, our show starts off with a game.

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And this week we're gonna be returning to a classic.

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This is in honor of your successful Kickstarters.

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We're gonna be playing Wisdom of the Crowd Fund.

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This is where I'm going to name a successful,

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all of these are successful,

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Kickstarter or Indiegogo campaign.

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You just have to tell me if it actually succeeded

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all the way through to fulfilling the orders

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or if people backed it and then got nothing.

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And as always, we start with our guest, Chase.

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I gotta tell you about this wonderful Kickstarter.

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This is from a while back here.

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Let me look up the date.

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Chase, this is a project from 2014.

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So cast your mind back long before the dark times.

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- Oh man.

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- I gotta tell you about the Pancake Pirate Griddle.

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This is a cast iron project where you can back

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and you'll get a little set of three pancake griddles

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that have a skull and crossbones in them.

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It successfully backed with 200 backers and $18,000.

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But did their backers actually get their griddles?

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- I'm gonna say no.

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- They did.

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It went all the way through.

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It was like a weird one-time limited run thing in Illinois,

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somewhere in Chicago.

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This guy had a dream.

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- Oh wow.

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I don't know how much it costs to make a griddle,

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but 18,000 doesn't seem like enough.

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- Right?

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I would think so too.

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He met his goal and it was all successful.

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But yeah, it's a giant waffle iron looking cast iron thing

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that you got in the mail.

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- Dang.

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- It's a lost money, that's for sure.

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- Yeah, wouldn't recommend any of these projects,

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especially, yeah.

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- Money was worth more back then.

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- So true though.

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- I mean, after the inflation.

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- Scott.

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- Hey, bae.

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- I gotta tell you about the Hand Free.

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This is not hands free, H-A-N-F-R-E-E.

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This is in 2011, right after the iPad came out.

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And it is the hands free iPad accessory.

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Imagine a floor standing floor lamp,

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but with like a long arm and hook.

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The iPad attaches to it.

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You can lay in bed and use the iPad

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above your head like WALL-E.

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It had 440 backers that pledged $35,000.

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But, did that ship?

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- Yes, I absolutely think this is shipped.

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- It did.

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- No.

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- It seems so easy, right?

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It's just a big old metal arm.

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- Everything on Kickstarter, this seems very straightforward.

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yeah, this should have shipped.

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- What do you think?

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- What went wrong?

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- I don't know, man.

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- Was it too top heavy?

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That sounds like it might be too top heavy.

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- It hit several people in the face, falling over.

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- I don't know if it was mass production

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or if they just didn't prototype well enough.

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But, you know, never came through.

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Russell, I'm here to tell you about Crystal Bacon.

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Yes, that's right, Crystal Bacon.

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This is a project from 2013.

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49 backers pledged $2,000, and that was enough.

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$2,700.

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So, Crystal Bacon is, of course, bacon made of acrylic.

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This person CNC'd a necklace or a earrings or an ornament,

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or, of course, you could get all three.

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- Yeah, it looks like glass bacon.

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It succeeded, but did it ship?

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- Wait, I'm sorry, is this actual bacon?

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- Yeah, it's that.

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- I don't know why, but.

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- I thought all the ideas on our show were bad,

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but I have a feeling that this one got funded.

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- It did get funded, but did it ship?

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- This shipped, for sure.

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Somebody loves bacon enough.

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- That's exactly right.

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- There's somebody that loves bacon that much.

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- There was a whole internet meme thing around bacon

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in around 2013, feels right.

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He, of course, successfully went on to go

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and create the Booze Bolt,

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which was a big, giant bolt that was a shot glass.

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- Of course.

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- I don't know why.

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- I mean, when you make money on bacon.

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- That's the obvious next step in your career.

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- Yeah, the next step.

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- Chase, I gotta tell you about the ostrich pillow.

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Have you heard of the ostrich pillow?

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- It's like moderately famous,

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so I wanted to make sure that, okay, great.

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It's a full, fluffy pillowcase looking thing

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that's kind of bulbous, and it has three holes in it.

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and two for your arms, so you can sleep heads down

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on a desk.

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- I have seen this.

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- Yeah, so this was a thing that was like

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a big laughing stock, and they got $195,000

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from about two grand backers, but did it actually ship?

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- I feel like I've, I don't know if I've seen these

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in real life, but I feel like I've seen these in magazines.

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- Is it the knockoff?

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- So if they didn't ship it, somebody else stole the idea

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and did ship it.

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I'm gonna say they shipped it.

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- They shipped it, they did, and they had like

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six other ones afterward that were for other

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similar looking products.

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- Studio Banana, of course, we all love Studio Banana,

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and their famous ostrich pillow.

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Well done, Jason.

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(laughing)

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- That is also a statement.

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You put ideas can do really well on Kickstarter.

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- You'd think, yeah.

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- It seems like a crapshoot whether or not something

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grabs onto the public imagination.

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Scott, I gotta tell you about the Amabrush.

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This is the 10 second toothbrush, which is a product

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that looks like a mouth guard, but it's got like

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automated bristles all around the top and bottom

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that you just stick in and let it do its thing.

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It's battery powered.

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It got 26,000, 27,000 backers,

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three million euros in 2019.

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But did it actually ship?

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- I want this to ship, shipped so bad.

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I'm gonna say yes, it shipped.

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- The last update was from the bankruptcy proceedings

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at this link, they did not ship.

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Which is hilarious, 'cause there's a big

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order now button right at the top of the Kickstarter.

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(laughing)

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- Try it, see what happens.

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- Russell, another product that I'm hoping

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you haven't seen.

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- Yeah.

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- This one had a late night appearance

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during the Kickstarter on like Tonight Show or something.

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This is the Licki Brush, all capitals, L-I-C-K-I Brush.

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This is a mouthpiece that goes in your mouth

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like a mouth guard with an artificial bristled tongue

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so you can groom your cat.

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Oh, oh no.

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- Yeah, it's like a brush thing that you put

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and then you can just sort of go at it.

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But it got 2,000 backers, $52,000 in 2018.

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But did it actually ship?

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- I hope for everyone on this planet that it never shipped.

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- It totally shipped, it's a real thing.

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(laughing)

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- Oh no, how many people backed it?

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How many people backed it?

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2,000 people?

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- 2,022 people.

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- So there are 2,000 people licking their cats.

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- At least.

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- Guys, no, it made it on Shark Tank.

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I'm just, look, click this link.

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This thing looks insane.

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- I don't want to, I don't want to.

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(laughing)

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I don't want to know it exists.

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- Yeah, the byline says,

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have you ever wanted to lick your cat?

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Now you can without the fur balls.

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You know, that thing everyone wants to do.

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(laughing)

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- Oh my gosh.

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- I think that means that the score's one all,

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is that right?

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- I think so.

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- All right, last time through.

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Chase, I gotta tell you about the Pop Charging Station.

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Kind of looks like a white trash can Mac Pro

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a little bit, like a long cylinder

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that sits on a desk or on a table.

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And there's legs that hold it up a little bit

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and a bunch of retractable charging cables

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that come out from the underside of it.

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You plug in your phone, your iPad, whatever,

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and then when you're done,

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they retract back into a little cylinder.

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It got 1,000 backers on the dot

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and raised about $140,000 in 2013.

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So early on in iPad life cycle,

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like six years after the iPhone launch,

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but did it ship?

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- What's it called?

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- The Pop, P-O-P, all capitals.

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The Pop, the intersection of charging and design.

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- These are hard.

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- I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say yeah.

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I'm gonna say it shipped.

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- No sir, that was another failure.

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- Oh, I'm wrong, I'm wrong.

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As soon as I said it, I really thought it was wrong.

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- It didn't, you'd think 140,000 would be enough

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to like take some cables and a spool

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and shove them in a plastic box, but nope.

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- I mean, they got tape measures have been around forever.

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Like just repurpose that, I don't know.

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- That's right.

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- I'm not an engineer.

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Tape a USB to a tape measure and just let it go.

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I could have had 150,000 sales.

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- There's a study somewhere that's like

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the more a Kickstarter project makes,

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the more unlikely it is that it's going to actually ship.

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- Robert's Law, as we call it now.

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- I think people just get excited about it.

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- You've coined it.

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- Robert's Law.

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- Chase Robert, is it him?

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- No, I did not make this up.

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Somebody else has written about this,

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but I'm pretty sure it's true.

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Scott, I got to tell you about the Krypteks,

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C-R-Y-P-T-E-K-S, Krypteks USB.

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This is a flash drive that has some hardware encryption.

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So like a fingerprint scanner on it

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that encrypts all of your stuff on it.

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And it slides into a cylinder

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that's got a combination lock along it.

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It's the most secure, world-class,

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super secure digital stash for all of your files.

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It got 990 backers, so quite a bit in 2014

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and almost $200,000, but did it ship?

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- This is another one that seems like,

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yeah, this seems it could be doable.

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Biometrics, yeah, I think it shipped.

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- No, sir.

319
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- Not even close.

320
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- God damn it.

321
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- They're from Michigan like us,

322
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but no, unfortunately it was one of those things, right?

323
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Don't even know if they had a prototype.

324
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There's a lot of CGI renders on this thing.

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- That's a bummer.

326
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- Of course, Russell, the last one.

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Lionel Richie's head.

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So for a festival in England in 2013,

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211 backers raised about eight grand for,

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let me read the quote for sure here.

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"Lionel Richie's head is in the official lineup

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"for Bestival, a four-day weekend music festival

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"held in Wright, England."

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What they wanted to do was,

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depending on how many backers they got,

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get at least three meters,

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maybe as tall as six or more meters tall,

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paper mache and/or other material of Lionel Richie.

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And it's an art piece.

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You could go in it, you could look at it,

341
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you could take a picture of it.

342
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A good-looking Lionel Richie head

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at a respectable height of three meters

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will cost us around 5,000 euros.

345
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So it'll need some internal turbines

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to help keep his head up and sandbags to keep it down

347
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and things like that.

348
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But the more that they can raise, the better.

349
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So they were successful and they raised about eight grand.

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Did they hold up their end of the bargain?

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Was there a Lionel Richie head at Bestival 2013?

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- I hope so.

353
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This one seems like it needed to happen.

354
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And I feel like it didn't, the money didn't matter.

355
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It just, it was gonna happen one way or another.

356
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- I have the best news for you.

357
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It indeed did happen.

358
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It ended up being five meters,

359
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which is about 16 feet tall.

360
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- See?

361
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- So you too can see the giant ass Lionel Richie.

362
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Don't know why. - A 16 foot tall.

363
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Oh my gosh.

364
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This makes me happy.

365
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- It's kind of like, remember the potato salad one

366
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where a guy was like,

367
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"Kickstarter me eating potato salad."

368
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Look at this.

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Isn't that haunting?

370
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- Oh my gosh.

371
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- I probably would have backed that.

372
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- You too could.

373
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(laughing)

374
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- Whoa.

375
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- That's an artist render.

376
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(laughing)

377
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- I love the windows background.

378
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- No, it was just for a music festival.

379
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It's gone now.

380
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Well, actually I don't know where it ended up.

381
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The Kickstarter page itself only shows like,

382
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here's what it could be.

383
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I had to look up news articles

384
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to see if they ever held up.

385
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- I cannot believe somebody's licking their cats right now.

386
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Like I still,

387
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(laughing)

388
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I can't stop thinking about this.

389
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Lick E.

390
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- I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news there.

391
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- The Kickstarter page has multiple,

392
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like you could buy three and get a discount.

393
00:13:48,700 --> 00:13:51,740
- Yeah, I want three of these.

394
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They're out of stock on Amazon, guys.

395
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There are 313 ratings.

396
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This is a mistake.

397
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This is an abomination.

398
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I don't know.

399
00:14:00,980 --> 00:14:02,420
- Somewhere Jordan Peele's writing down

400
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for his next horror movie script,

401
00:14:03,820 --> 00:14:06,700
a family of three are licking their cat

402
00:14:06,700 --> 00:14:08,180
when they turn the corner.

403
00:14:08,180 --> 00:14:09,300
What a jump scare.

404
00:14:09,300 --> 00:14:10,540
(laughing)

405
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- Oh my gosh.

406
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- All right, Russell.

407
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You are up first this week.

408
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What do you got for us?

409
00:14:16,340 --> 00:14:17,160
- All right.

410
00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:19,140
I think this one I've told a lot of people about

411
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'cause I almost launched it,

412
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but I just, I'm not going to anymore.

413
00:14:22,140 --> 00:14:22,980
- All right.

414
00:14:22,980 --> 00:14:23,820
- All right, guys.

415
00:14:23,820 --> 00:14:25,380
So my idea this week,

416
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I'm currently working on my basement,

417
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kinda sorta I had to hire somebody out

418
00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:33,440
because the amount of work isn't as bad

419
00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:38,440
as the amount of YouTubing and like all I have to do.

420
00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,840
I think the amount of content on the internet

421
00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,780
has killed the DIY 'cause I'm looking at

422
00:14:43,780 --> 00:14:46,480
this old house videos from 15 years ago

423
00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:51,280
to some dude that just installed this thing a year ago

424
00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:52,400
and I'm trying to figure out,

425
00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:56,000
all right, who do I trust for my DIY project, right?

426
00:14:56,000 --> 00:15:01,000
All I wanna do is talk to some retired professional

427
00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,080
that I need a hotline, right?

428
00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:07,240
So my idea is the DIY hotline

429
00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:11,560
and all you do is called old retire guys or gals

430
00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:13,280
that are kind of out of work

431
00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,540
because they've done the manual labor,

432
00:15:15,540 --> 00:15:17,840
but they have all the knowledge, right?

433
00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:19,420
You call them up, you ask for advice,

434
00:15:19,420 --> 00:15:22,960
you do a FaceTime call or a Webex call

435
00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,080
if they still use that or whatever

436
00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:28,520
and basically just walk through the house

437
00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:30,320
and just be like, hey, I'm trying to fix this.

438
00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:34,360
Like what should I do here, right?

439
00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,620
Cut through all the YouTube BS, skip all that.

440
00:15:37,620 --> 00:15:39,520
Like I don't need an online course thing,

441
00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:40,920
I just need to talk to somebody

442
00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,640
to make me feel better about my DIY decision.

443
00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:45,720
I think there's a little bit of therapy there

444
00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:49,840
that comes with having an old wise person telling you this.

445
00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:53,060
And yeah, simply put, that's the model.

446
00:15:53,060 --> 00:15:56,200
You can charge per or honestly,

447
00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:57,780
I think this is where we win,

448
00:15:57,780 --> 00:16:02,100
is it's 100% free to call these folks, okay?

449
00:16:02,100 --> 00:16:03,080
Yeah. - Whoa.

450
00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:07,240
- And all the materials you need,

451
00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:09,180
so they're recommending and trying to sell you on,

452
00:16:09,180 --> 00:16:10,680
oh yeah, you need this pipe fitting,

453
00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:11,520
you need these things.

454
00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:13,720
They only make a cut on all the products.

455
00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:14,920
- Sure. (laughs)

456
00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:16,500
- So you make as much calls,

457
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you answer as many calls as possible

458
00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:20,720
and you make money on recommendations

459
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of the products you buy.

460
00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:23,600
You give them discounts to Menards,

461
00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,000
you know the 11% that you get back.

462
00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,000
Menards, they cut that back

463
00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,560
to the person doing the advising, right?

464
00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:32,320
- Home Depot or Lowe's or whatever, yeah.

465
00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:33,960
- Yeah, so you do like,

466
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you increase your inbound calls

467
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by making it free to call

468
00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:41,140
and you just make all the money on the buying behavior

469
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that comes out of those calls.

470
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So now, the more active you are,

471
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the more you upsell,

472
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you turn them a little bit into salespeople,

473
00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:50,840
but also like, I don't know,

474
00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:52,360
you could also do the Uber bottle, right?

475
00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,480
You could say, all right, for 15 bucks,

476
00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,120
I don't know, it sounds like a hotline.

477
00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:56,960
When I get to hotlines--

478
00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:57,800
- Yeah, I was gonna say, dude,

479
00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:00,160
I kinda wanna make this into a hotline,

480
00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:01,760
like a phone sex hotline.

481
00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:02,600
- That's what I was trying to avoid.

482
00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,000
- Where you are charged by the minute on there

483
00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:08,200
and you get the guy who knows absolutely everything

484
00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:09,680
about what you are trying to do,

485
00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:11,320
but every minute you're talking to him,

486
00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:12,640
like, you're gonna pay for that going forward.

487
00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:14,120
- Yeah, I don't wanna buy a product

488
00:17:14,120 --> 00:17:16,480
where the guy's incentive is to upsell me

489
00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:18,040
on the most expensive thing.

490
00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:19,440
- Yeah, it's true.

491
00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:20,280
There's a balance.

492
00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,200
- Yeah, I know, I've already come to terms,

493
00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,000
I have to make four trips to Home Depot

494
00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:25,840
when I'm trying to just do it in one.

495
00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:27,040
- I know, right?

496
00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:28,800
- Well, the other issue is that you're gonna have

497
00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:30,760
all these slow talkers that get on

498
00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:32,600
that are just trying to run up the meter.

499
00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,040
- It's like a lawyer when they're billable.

500
00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:36,640
You can hear them slow down.

501
00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:38,440
- I was listening to NPR and they said,

502
00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,160
today's episode is brought to you, it was a podcast,

503
00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:42,760
today's episode is brought to you by,

504
00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:44,400
I forget which, it was one of those handyman,

505
00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:48,080
like rent something, local carpenter,

506
00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:49,520
come to your house sort of service,

507
00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:51,840
and they said, I had never heard this before,

508
00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:53,840
even though I've heard the ad many times,

509
00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,540
your first visit or whatever is free,

510
00:17:56,540 --> 00:17:58,840
or your first video call.

511
00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:00,840
And I remember thinking like, oh man,

512
00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:04,400
like live video call with exactly what you're pitching

513
00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,600
would be amazing, but I've never followed through

514
00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:10,160
to see how does that even work, you know?

515
00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:13,400
But if you could make it free somehow, that's really cool.

516
00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:14,880
- A lead gen?

517
00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,320
- Like somehow guarantee that it's not just

518
00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:20,320
the local whatever carpenter business,

519
00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:23,360
but it's like actually retired old grizzled dudes

520
00:18:23,360 --> 00:18:26,440
looking for something to do, like that's the way to go.

521
00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:27,360
That's fun.

522
00:18:27,360 --> 00:18:29,040
- Can I pile onto Russell's idea here?

523
00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:29,880
- Please, yes.

524
00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:33,560
- So I've had a very similar idea,

525
00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:37,040
but I wanna, instead of focusing on fixing my water heater,

526
00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:40,880
I want somebody to just teach me about stepper motors,

527
00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:44,320
or walk me through my Facebook ads.

528
00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:48,920
I kinda want Fiverr, but like I don't want $5 people,

529
00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:52,760
I want $100 an hour people where I can just get on,

530
00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:56,560
and it's like, I just wanna speak to a professional

531
00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,960
in an industry, and just, yeah,

532
00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,440
'cause going through all the YouTube slog is terrible,

533
00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:03,480
'cause they don't know what problem I'm having.

534
00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:05,500
I end up watching an hour long video

535
00:19:05,500 --> 00:19:07,080
to find the two minute segment

536
00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,260
that addresses the issue I'm having, right?

537
00:19:09,260 --> 00:19:11,860
Like I just wanna cut to the crap and get somebody

538
00:19:11,860 --> 00:19:15,120
that can help me with my problem,

539
00:19:15,120 --> 00:19:18,240
but it's not just water heaters or home stuff,

540
00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:20,760
it's like on a professional level too.

541
00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:21,800
- Totally.

542
00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,240
- I feel like LinkedIn is supposed to do that,

543
00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,440
that's like what they want LinkedIn to do,

544
00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:28,480
but it just doesn't work.

545
00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,560
I don't know, it just doesn't scratch the itch

546
00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:31,960
the way it's supposed to.

547
00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:32,880
- Do you wanna connect?

548
00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:34,360
- Yeah, that's amazing.

549
00:19:34,360 --> 00:19:36,140
I did not think about how this would apply

550
00:19:36,140 --> 00:19:39,520
to my life outside of DIY projects,

551
00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:40,560
but that's so true.

552
00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:43,880
The amount of videos that I've had to watch

553
00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:47,560
for some software solution, that I'm like, yeah.

554
00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:49,080
And then you end up watching three of them

555
00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:50,560
because you don't trust the first one.

556
00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:52,560
You always gotta watch the second and third one

557
00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,160
to make sure they all say the same thing.

558
00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,360
- You watch like eight of them and find consensus

559
00:19:57,360 --> 00:19:59,560
'cause you got the one whack nut who's not doing it right.

560
00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:00,400
Yeah.

561
00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:01,400
- Yeah.

562
00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:02,480
- That's the streets, you know?

563
00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:03,680
That's how you learn on the streets

564
00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:08,160
of back in the day of early YouTube, you know?

565
00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:09,320
Yeah, people read books.

566
00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,960
No, we watch three hours of YouTube.

567
00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:12,940
That's our thing.

568
00:20:12,940 --> 00:20:14,880
- Dude, that's a great idea.

569
00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,440
- Yeah, I think there's something there

570
00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,240
for somebody to build off of.

571
00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,680
I just think that it's hard to trust

572
00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:24,560
or build a trustworthy website.

573
00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:28,480
So the charging per dollar thing just seems like it's hard.

574
00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,640
But I think--

575
00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:31,760
- Oh, like per minute, yeah.

576
00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,680
- Yeah, but I think that's why it's like, I don't know.

577
00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:35,980
- First two hours free.

578
00:20:35,980 --> 00:20:36,960
- Oh yeah, maybe that.

579
00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,440
- Or something to like get me in, you know?

580
00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:40,880
I need to get hooked.

581
00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:42,560
- I mean, honestly, it might be like, okay,

582
00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:46,280
if I get my first two hours free with whatever handyman,

583
00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,720
Handyman Bob on your website and it works and it's great,

584
00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:51,960
I am always going back to Handyman Bob.

585
00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,520
Like, holy shit, like you helped me on this one.

586
00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,320
Help me on this next project coming forward.

587
00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,680
- You could also just do a big data play, right?

588
00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,440
Where it's like we're collecting all of this video stuff

589
00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:06,360
and soon we're gonna have a video AI robot that, you know?

590
00:21:06,360 --> 00:21:07,200
- AI assistant.

591
00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:08,320
- We'll just make another YouTube video

592
00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:09,320
and put it out there.

593
00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:13,360
- You can just FaceTime with the robot and it'll know.

594
00:21:13,360 --> 00:21:15,840
Like, it'll take us 10 years to get there,

595
00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,200
but you would own all the data, right?

596
00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,040
You'd be able to solve any problem.

597
00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:21,240
- That's actually really interesting.

598
00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,920
Like, if there's something wrong with my dishwasher,

599
00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:24,920
I need this repaired.

600
00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,560
And this video, I look at 10 different videos

601
00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,360
and none of them are the exact same dishwasher.

602
00:21:30,360 --> 00:21:32,440
They're close, but it's not that same brand

603
00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:33,840
as Samsung, whatever.

604
00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:35,880
But by doing that and collecting all this,

605
00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:39,400
I would have some guy repairing the exact same dishwasher

606
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:40,560
that I have at some point.

607
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,760
- Yeah, actually, it'd be so funny

608
00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,000
if all the free calls were recorded

609
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:46,360
and the education was free.

610
00:21:46,360 --> 00:21:49,960
And now you pay a subscription to access the library

611
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:51,920
of everybody else's videos.

612
00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:56,920
And now you look up like Samsung S3RUN, right?

613
00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,880
And now I can find that dishwasher and watch that.

614
00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:02,400
- Or just post up all those videos on YouTube

615
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,160
as marketing for your platform, right?

616
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:05,000
- Make that ad sense funny.

617
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:05,840
- That's how you bring people in.

618
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:06,680
- I've thought about this.

619
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,120
- This is it, man.

620
00:22:09,120 --> 00:22:11,400
- For a minute, I was like gonna do this idea.

621
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:12,440
Like I still might.

622
00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,480
So like, if you steal my idea,

623
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,920
know that you might be competing with me.

624
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:17,760
- TMTM.

625
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:18,600
- Right.

626
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:19,440
(laughing)

627
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:20,280
- TMTM.

628
00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:21,320
- Take it, man.

629
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:22,920
I will sign up.

630
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:24,400
I'll be your early adopter, man.

631
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:25,360
- Yeah, me too.

632
00:22:25,360 --> 00:22:27,600
I haven't done it yet, but I might.

633
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:28,600
- Can you imagine a dating,

634
00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:30,480
this is kind of a dating app where you're going through

635
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,280
and it's like, this person has self-reported

636
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,960
that they are an expert in these brands,

637
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,220
these categories of home repair.

638
00:22:38,220 --> 00:22:40,120
They were a carpenter for 12 years.

639
00:22:40,120 --> 00:22:41,520
They were a furnace guy for eight.

640
00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:43,020
Yeah, that'd be so cool.

641
00:22:43,020 --> 00:22:43,860
- Dude, yeah.

642
00:22:43,860 --> 00:22:44,680
- Swipe right.

643
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:46,160
- We could take over LinkedIn.

644
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,480
Basically get all these professionals

645
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,440
helping them generate content.

646
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,440
It's super casual and free.

647
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,600
Like, you know, and now you're just like,

648
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,240
oh, I didn't know I was creating content.

649
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,960
And all of a sudden I'm a content engine machine.

650
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:00,220
You know?

651
00:23:00,220 --> 00:23:04,380
- Talking to a person who's like in the evening,

652
00:23:04,380 --> 00:23:07,200
but currently in the workforce is fine,

653
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:08,440
but it seems like it'd be really fun

654
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,740
if it was grizzled old retirees.

655
00:23:10,740 --> 00:23:13,420
Like, there's something charming about that.

656
00:23:13,420 --> 00:23:14,420
- Yeah. - I don't know why.

657
00:23:14,420 --> 00:23:15,800
- The grandpas, you know?

658
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,000
- I've never worked on a Samsung dishwasher before.

659
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,260
They didn't invent those back when I worked, but.

660
00:23:21,260 --> 00:23:22,900
- Get yourself a Maytag.

661
00:23:22,900 --> 00:23:27,940
- Washboard and a bucket.

662
00:23:27,940 --> 00:23:28,780
- Yeah.

663
00:23:29,940 --> 00:23:31,980
- All right, so I mean, that's it, guys.

664
00:23:31,980 --> 00:23:35,140
Like, that's a, I feel like very simple,

665
00:23:35,140 --> 00:23:36,940
but I think that it's like,

666
00:23:36,940 --> 00:23:38,620
I have a, I think there's like a,

667
00:23:38,620 --> 00:23:41,220
there's probably a company out there that does this,

668
00:23:41,220 --> 00:23:44,780
or like, they're already like Angie's List and TaskRabbit

669
00:23:44,780 --> 00:23:47,660
and those types of folks that could totally.

670
00:23:47,660 --> 00:23:49,220
But there's something, you know,

671
00:23:49,220 --> 00:23:53,980
maybe they tap into this or this company exists

672
00:23:53,980 --> 00:23:56,940
and they pull in Angie's List professionals and stuff.

673
00:23:56,940 --> 00:23:59,620
It just feels like easy to steal

674
00:23:59,620 --> 00:24:02,660
or maybe there's a reason why it wasn't.

675
00:24:02,660 --> 00:24:07,140
- Angie's List was great when it was a list of ratings.

676
00:24:07,140 --> 00:24:09,540
It was like Yelp, like Google Maps reviews, right?

677
00:24:09,540 --> 00:24:10,980
And then they turned into this like,

678
00:24:10,980 --> 00:24:13,540
we'll call you from a special number

679
00:24:13,540 --> 00:24:14,780
and take care of all of it for you.

680
00:24:14,780 --> 00:24:17,180
And I don't trust it as much anymore.

681
00:24:17,180 --> 00:24:19,140
And I feel like that's because

682
00:24:19,140 --> 00:24:21,060
I'm not able to see all the options

683
00:24:21,060 --> 00:24:23,700
and I'm not able to get the bio of the places

684
00:24:23,700 --> 00:24:25,940
and I'm not looking at actual verified reviews or whatever.

685
00:24:25,940 --> 00:24:27,740
It's like, we'll match for you

686
00:24:27,740 --> 00:24:30,020
and you don't get to see any of their info.

687
00:24:30,020 --> 00:24:30,860
Don't worry about it.

688
00:24:30,860 --> 00:24:32,060
We'll do all the connecting.

689
00:24:32,060 --> 00:24:35,100
It's like, something that's really charming

690
00:24:35,100 --> 00:24:36,920
about what you're originally pitching, Russell,

691
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,740
is the connection that you're gonna have with a rando.

692
00:24:39,740 --> 00:24:44,500
Like, this is Doug, he did this for 50 years or whatever.

693
00:24:44,500 --> 00:24:48,100
Like, this is Susan and she currently works in the industry

694
00:24:48,100 --> 00:24:50,340
and here's connecting you now.

695
00:24:50,340 --> 00:24:51,980
That's so much better.

696
00:24:51,980 --> 00:24:54,060
- I tried to make a TikTok ad the other day.

697
00:24:54,060 --> 00:24:56,740
And like what you said, Chase, like I went on Fiverr,

698
00:24:56,740 --> 00:24:59,660
found someone who's done this a hundred times

699
00:24:59,660 --> 00:25:02,380
and all I paid for was like a one hour video call

700
00:25:02,380 --> 00:25:04,320
with this person, nothing else.

701
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,900
And I got so much further from this one video call

702
00:25:07,900 --> 00:25:10,500
than anything would have been me digging through YouTubes

703
00:25:10,500 --> 00:25:11,620
and whatnot trying this.

704
00:25:11,620 --> 00:25:13,180
I really like this idea.

705
00:25:13,180 --> 00:25:15,260
- Dude, send me your guy.

706
00:25:15,260 --> 00:25:17,260
I want a video call with him.

707
00:25:17,260 --> 00:25:19,780
- He's in Morocco and he's awesome.

708
00:25:19,780 --> 00:25:21,020
- Oh, I love Morocco.

709
00:25:21,020 --> 00:25:22,180
Yeah, serious.

710
00:25:22,180 --> 00:25:23,540
Send me your guy.

711
00:25:23,540 --> 00:25:24,380
- I will.

712
00:25:26,020 --> 00:25:28,060
- The other problem with Fiverr is I just get nervous

713
00:25:28,060 --> 00:25:31,340
about like, are these guys any good, right?

714
00:25:31,340 --> 00:25:33,220
And like, they've got reviews.

715
00:25:33,220 --> 00:25:35,180
- Funny, he was recommended by a different Fiverr guy

716
00:25:35,180 --> 00:25:36,180
and that's why I used them.

717
00:25:36,180 --> 00:25:38,940
- Yeah, I feel like the reviews on Fiverr,

718
00:25:38,940 --> 00:25:40,780
like I just don't trust those as much.

719
00:25:40,780 --> 00:25:43,580
- The whole premise of Fiverr was cheap

720
00:25:43,580 --> 00:25:46,420
and medium quality at best, like for a long time.

721
00:25:46,420 --> 00:25:48,580
Rather trying to make it like more, you know,

722
00:25:48,580 --> 00:25:51,320
luxury quality products.

723
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,780
But yeah, it's hard to shake that stigma

724
00:25:53,780 --> 00:25:55,340
when you kind of build your whole name

725
00:25:55,340 --> 00:25:58,100
and branding and conceit off of cheap, cheap, cheap.

726
00:25:58,100 --> 00:25:59,500
- Five, five dollars.

727
00:25:59,500 --> 00:26:02,020
- Was that guy, Scott, like, was it a free call?

728
00:26:02,020 --> 00:26:03,180
Like, was it just like an intro,

729
00:26:03,180 --> 00:26:04,340
get to know each other call?

730
00:26:04,340 --> 00:26:05,380
- No.

731
00:26:05,380 --> 00:26:06,220
- Oh, you paid for that?

732
00:26:06,220 --> 00:26:08,300
- I straight up, I paid for the service up front

733
00:26:08,300 --> 00:26:10,740
to be like, I will help you get up and running for this.

734
00:26:10,740 --> 00:26:13,540
- Oh, okay, so he did book by the hour.

735
00:26:13,540 --> 00:26:15,820
So this is kind of like an example of it working.

736
00:26:15,820 --> 00:26:16,700
Okay, cool.

737
00:26:16,700 --> 00:26:17,540
- Yeah.

738
00:26:17,540 --> 00:26:18,820
- Validated.

739
00:26:18,820 --> 00:26:20,220
- Yeah, I think people are, I mean,

740
00:26:20,220 --> 00:26:23,340
I don't know how many like, people that'll help you

741
00:26:23,340 --> 00:26:26,700
with your dishwasher on Fiverr, but there's definitely

742
00:26:26,700 --> 00:26:28,500
like some consulting that goes through there.

743
00:26:28,500 --> 00:26:30,220
- It's hard to be a 30 year veteran

744
00:26:30,220 --> 00:26:31,540
grizzled old TikToker.

745
00:26:31,540 --> 00:26:33,780
(laughing)

746
00:26:33,780 --> 00:26:34,620
- That's true.

747
00:26:34,620 --> 00:26:37,020
- I've been doing TikTok for a long time, kid.

748
00:26:37,020 --> 00:26:40,480
- Oh, so all these companies, right?

749
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,500
They spend all this time quoting

750
00:26:42,500 --> 00:26:43,940
and they have all these wheel,

751
00:26:43,940 --> 00:26:48,700
these guys driving around doing quotes for work, right?

752
00:26:48,700 --> 00:26:50,820
Like they just drove out there, it's like, yeah,

753
00:26:50,820 --> 00:26:52,300
it's going to be 60 bucks minimum

754
00:26:52,300 --> 00:26:55,660
for me to drive out there to see what I could have just seen

755
00:26:55,660 --> 00:26:57,740
or send me a picture, right?

756
00:26:57,740 --> 00:26:59,100
Like you solve some of that

757
00:26:59,100 --> 00:27:01,420
and you make a really good experience for people.

758
00:27:01,420 --> 00:27:03,820
Like I think for millennials too,

759
00:27:03,820 --> 00:27:06,700
like tapping into that market, like it's just,

760
00:27:06,700 --> 00:27:09,840
oh, you're a video call away from doing a quote.

761
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:11,700
And now instead of it being $60,

762
00:27:11,700 --> 00:27:14,980
an hour of some dude's time in our company,

763
00:27:14,980 --> 00:27:17,640
you now just did it virtually.

764
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,580
That's good.

765
00:27:19,580 --> 00:27:22,060
- Company saves gas, company's able to bang, bang, bang

766
00:27:22,060 --> 00:27:23,900
right through all the morning calls.

767
00:27:23,900 --> 00:27:24,940
Yeah, totally.

768
00:27:24,940 --> 00:27:28,940
- And this also, I think like there's some element to like,

769
00:27:28,940 --> 00:27:29,900
Chase, what you were saying,

770
00:27:29,900 --> 00:27:33,720
like in my friend group and my maybe like extended network,

771
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,740
like there are probably people that want to talk to me

772
00:27:35,740 --> 00:27:38,320
about like no code, for example.

773
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,940
And I don't know how to charge for that

774
00:27:40,940 --> 00:27:43,060
without being weird, right?

775
00:27:43,060 --> 00:27:45,460
So it's like, oh, book a time on my Calendly

776
00:27:45,460 --> 00:27:47,620
and there's a checkout page or something like.

777
00:27:47,620 --> 00:27:49,580
- Which that is a thing, cal.com.

778
00:27:49,580 --> 00:27:51,140
There's other Calendlies that'll like do

779
00:27:51,140 --> 00:27:53,700
like the you pay to get the schedule thing going,

780
00:27:53,700 --> 00:27:55,940
but it's still not like a market.

781
00:27:55,940 --> 00:27:57,980
You have to have the, I already know them

782
00:27:57,980 --> 00:28:00,220
and yeah, steer them to it first.

783
00:28:00,220 --> 00:28:02,480
- It feels a little weird, I guess doing it that way, right?

784
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,820
Maybe if there is a marketplace or, you know,

785
00:28:04,820 --> 00:28:07,340
my LinkedIn profile has like 400 reviews,

786
00:28:07,340 --> 00:28:09,180
like, oh, sorry, I do this for a living.

787
00:28:09,180 --> 00:28:11,300
So it's not as weird, right?

788
00:28:11,300 --> 00:28:13,460
But I don't know, there's probably something.

789
00:28:13,460 --> 00:28:16,020
There's something that, something there.

790
00:28:16,020 --> 00:28:18,660
So, thanks guys.

791
00:28:20,900 --> 00:28:22,300
- Good job, you're welcome.

792
00:28:22,300 --> 00:28:24,900
- I'm so excited about this.

793
00:28:24,900 --> 00:28:27,740
- We say thank you at the end of everything.

794
00:28:27,740 --> 00:28:28,580
- Thank you for your time.

795
00:28:28,580 --> 00:28:30,420
- I was excited for it.

796
00:28:30,420 --> 00:28:39,380
- All right, Scotty, let's hear what you got this time.

797
00:28:39,380 --> 00:28:40,780
- Russell, I am so excited.

798
00:28:40,780 --> 00:28:43,940
I think this idea is a product hardware idea

799
00:28:43,940 --> 00:28:46,580
and it'll go very well with yours.

800
00:28:46,580 --> 00:28:50,200
I do a lot of troubleshooting for my job right now.

801
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,140
Every, and I've worked with either with customers

802
00:28:54,140 --> 00:28:58,320
or remotely and by far the most difficult troubleshooting

803
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,200
I've ever had to deal with is with my parents.

804
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,360
My parents have something wrong with the television

805
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,760
or there's an app that is doing something weird

806
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,960
and I got to hop on a call with them and be like,

807
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,760
have them explain it to me over the phone

808
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,920
or we'll try to set up a, more recently,

809
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:18,560
I've been trying to set up like a Google Hangouts

810
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,520
or something like, mom, just click this link,

811
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,760
just click this link and everything will be,

812
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,200
and then I'll be able to see what's going on.

813
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:25,840
And even that just doesn't work.

814
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:30,960
As Rebecca said last week, a silver tsunami is coming.

815
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,500
This is gonna be a more and more occurrence.

816
00:29:33,500 --> 00:29:37,540
I would like to build a hardware device

817
00:29:37,540 --> 00:29:39,360
that helps in remote troubleshooting

818
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,060
where it's a very one-sided device

819
00:29:42,060 --> 00:29:46,080
where I have complete control over it on one side

820
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,920
and on the other side, it just sits there

821
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:50,720
and nothing else has to be done.

822
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:55,280
So I'm picturing like a 360 degree camera on a device

823
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,820
with a laser pointer on a gimbal

824
00:29:58,820 --> 00:30:01,200
that I can like point to different things in the room

825
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,080
or on the television or whatever.

826
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,400
There's a screen on it that I can show,

827
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,780
I can pull up images of screenshots that it took

828
00:30:07,780 --> 00:30:11,240
and drew a big circle on it or pull up YouTube videos.

829
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,340
There's a built-in microphone and speaker.

830
00:30:14,300 --> 00:30:16,260
That's about as far as I got before I'm like,

831
00:30:16,260 --> 00:30:17,580
"Crap, I really wanna build this."

832
00:30:17,580 --> 00:30:18,420
- The orb.

833
00:30:18,420 --> 00:30:20,980
- Exactly, just the orb.

834
00:30:20,980 --> 00:30:24,060
Mom, go get the orb, hit the button on the orb.

835
00:30:24,060 --> 00:30:26,200
And then it'll just, everything is pre-set up

836
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,500
and it'll automatically like generate the call

837
00:30:28,500 --> 00:30:31,580
and I can just hop onto it and walk them through

838
00:30:31,580 --> 00:30:35,820
why their Sony television doesn't have the HBO app

839
00:30:35,820 --> 00:30:38,860
or something like installed and how to do that.

840
00:30:38,860 --> 00:30:41,020
- Throw an IR blaster on it, boom.

841
00:30:41,020 --> 00:30:44,020
- Oh, right, that's a great idea.

842
00:30:44,020 --> 00:30:46,700
Or have it like a Bluetooth receiver on it

843
00:30:46,700 --> 00:30:48,320
that I just see, it's just sniffing

844
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,380
all the Bluetooth devices in the room.

845
00:30:50,380 --> 00:30:52,580
It'd be like, "Well, mom, this one isn't on right now.

846
00:30:52,580 --> 00:30:54,940
You gotta turn this switch."

847
00:30:54,940 --> 00:30:57,700
Just everything you could ever want for troubleshooting

848
00:30:57,700 --> 00:30:59,860
in one device, one-sided.

849
00:30:59,860 --> 00:31:00,780
That's my idea.

850
00:31:00,780 --> 00:31:03,620
- The guys at Def Con are gonna love hacking this thing.

851
00:31:03,620 --> 00:31:05,880
(laughing)

852
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,460
You'd be messing with all these old people.

853
00:31:08,460 --> 00:31:09,580
- That's what everyone wants,

854
00:31:09,580 --> 00:31:12,260
another camera in their house, you know?

855
00:31:12,260 --> 00:31:15,100
- You could have the Staples Easy button on the top

856
00:31:15,100 --> 00:31:17,140
that only opens up and connects to wifi

857
00:31:17,140 --> 00:31:20,500
and does stuff when kids told me to press the button

858
00:31:20,500 --> 00:31:23,060
or I need help button and then that's when it connects.

859
00:31:23,060 --> 00:31:24,700
But yeah.

860
00:31:24,700 --> 00:31:28,020
- Let 'em spy, they'll be watching over our old people,

861
00:31:28,020 --> 00:31:29,940
you know, just making sure they're safe.

862
00:31:29,940 --> 00:31:31,180
- It's comforting.

863
00:31:31,180 --> 00:31:35,260
- Yeah, it's like, "Oh, the hacker saw me fall

864
00:31:35,260 --> 00:31:36,980
and now they called 911."

865
00:31:36,980 --> 00:31:39,540
I don't know, but nice hackers.

866
00:31:39,540 --> 00:31:40,900
- I got an interesting help desk ticket

867
00:31:40,900 --> 00:31:42,740
a couple months ago from someone where I work

868
00:31:42,740 --> 00:31:44,700
who was asking what is the best way for me

869
00:31:44,700 --> 00:31:49,580
to find a device where I can give it to my elderly mom

870
00:31:49,580 --> 00:31:52,520
who's in a nursing home where I can call her

871
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:53,620
and she doesn't have to do anything.

872
00:31:53,620 --> 00:31:56,100
Where I can like drop in and just start a call

873
00:31:56,100 --> 00:31:58,060
and there's literally nothing.

874
00:31:58,060 --> 00:32:01,520
We looked at Amazon, if you have an Amazon Echo

875
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,580
that is part of your household

876
00:32:03,580 --> 00:32:05,140
and then you put it in their house,

877
00:32:05,140 --> 00:32:06,520
you can do the drop in feature

878
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,860
where it kind of starts an intercom type thing.

879
00:32:09,860 --> 00:32:12,420
Yeah, you just wanna like bolt more and more sensors

880
00:32:12,420 --> 00:32:13,260
and stuff onto something like that.

881
00:32:13,260 --> 00:32:15,260
- I wanna add more features to that.

882
00:32:15,260 --> 00:32:16,100
- That's great.

883
00:32:16,100 --> 00:32:17,060
- I want that laser pointer.

884
00:32:17,060 --> 00:32:19,820
That would be so game changing for me.

885
00:32:19,820 --> 00:32:21,220
If I could see everything in the room

886
00:32:21,220 --> 00:32:23,480
and point at one thing.

887
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:24,820
You know what, screw it.

888
00:32:24,820 --> 00:32:27,780
Take that laser pointer gimbal and put a stylus on it

889
00:32:27,780 --> 00:32:29,860
and be like, "Mom, just put your phone in front of me

890
00:32:29,860 --> 00:32:34,860
and I will like point and fix whatever is going wrong."

891
00:32:34,860 --> 00:32:38,700
I will change your settings remotely with my stylus.

892
00:32:38,700 --> 00:32:39,640
- That's awesome.

893
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:45,380
So a long time ago, I hacked my Ender 3 3D printer

894
00:32:45,380 --> 00:32:47,300
and put a stylus on it and had it play

895
00:32:47,300 --> 00:32:49,100
one of those word search games.

896
00:32:49,100 --> 00:32:50,820
It's called Word Fate.

897
00:32:50,820 --> 00:32:53,540
And I got like, I set it up and it would just run all night

898
00:32:53,540 --> 00:32:57,460
and I had like a camera that was doing recognition

899
00:32:57,460 --> 00:32:59,620
to pick up the letters and everything.

900
00:32:59,620 --> 00:33:01,600
It was like a several month project,

901
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,040
but I beat every single level on that game.

902
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,380
- Got the all time high score.

903
00:33:06,380 --> 00:33:08,180
- That's wonderful.

904
00:33:08,180 --> 00:33:10,620
- Yeah, I posted on YouTube and all sorts of people

905
00:33:10,620 --> 00:33:12,940
commented that they hated me and that I was cheating

906
00:33:12,940 --> 00:33:13,780
and all that stuff.

907
00:33:13,780 --> 00:33:15,440
I'm like, "You guys don't get it."

908
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,100
- They're blood and tears.

909
00:33:18,100 --> 00:33:20,300
If we're porting that game and you're just...

910
00:33:20,300 --> 00:33:22,900
No, that makes sense.

911
00:33:22,900 --> 00:33:24,540
- Some hacker with an Ender.

912
00:33:24,540 --> 00:33:26,860
- So Scott, I feel like you could create multiple,

913
00:33:26,860 --> 00:33:29,780
like just sell separate devices, right?

914
00:33:29,780 --> 00:33:33,660
So you have like, so why I say that is because...

915
00:33:33,660 --> 00:33:34,500
- Make it modular?

916
00:33:34,500 --> 00:33:36,300
- Yeah, you have the laser pointer.

917
00:33:36,300 --> 00:33:39,620
So it's good for you to tell where your parents need to go,

918
00:33:39,620 --> 00:33:41,700
but also if you need to play with your dog,

919
00:33:41,700 --> 00:33:44,260
you know, or your cat, you just need them to run around,

920
00:33:44,260 --> 00:33:47,580
just plug it in, universal market, right?

921
00:33:47,580 --> 00:33:49,500
It's not just old folks.

922
00:33:49,500 --> 00:33:51,640
And then your 3D camera thing, you know,

923
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,420
just a plug and play thing.

924
00:33:53,420 --> 00:33:55,340
I think that's really helpful for like,

925
00:33:55,340 --> 00:34:00,140
home security to, you know, job sites, right?

926
00:34:00,140 --> 00:34:02,940
If you have multiple job sites and you wanna remote in

927
00:34:02,940 --> 00:34:06,220
and see, is your team slacking off, you know?

928
00:34:06,220 --> 00:34:09,180
So you can just pop in, turn on the green light

929
00:34:09,180 --> 00:34:10,020
and like, get to work.

930
00:34:10,020 --> 00:34:12,380
- Is your team slacking off?

931
00:34:12,380 --> 00:34:14,540
- I mean, if you have like three hour,

932
00:34:14,540 --> 00:34:16,860
like job sites that are like an hour apart, you know,

933
00:34:16,860 --> 00:34:19,180
and you're, you know, there's probably that,

934
00:34:19,180 --> 00:34:20,900
something like that, but...

935
00:34:20,900 --> 00:34:23,100
- You can attach the whip attachment,

936
00:34:23,100 --> 00:34:26,980
crack it at your, yeah, the insubordination.

937
00:34:26,980 --> 00:34:31,980
- That's right, you know, or like there's probably a more...

938
00:34:31,980 --> 00:34:34,300
That's right, just light a firecracker,

939
00:34:34,300 --> 00:34:37,060
a black cat every hour if they're,

940
00:34:37,060 --> 00:34:37,900
- Oh my God.

941
00:34:37,900 --> 00:34:39,260
- Auto mode, you know?

942
00:34:39,260 --> 00:34:44,540
But like the Facebook, I used actually the Facebook portal

943
00:34:44,540 --> 00:34:45,380
back in the day.

944
00:34:45,380 --> 00:34:46,220
- Yeah, portal, that's what it's called.

945
00:34:46,220 --> 00:34:48,020
- Yeah, and that was really,

946
00:34:48,020 --> 00:34:49,300
Carrie's grandpa used that.

947
00:34:49,300 --> 00:34:51,260
Everybody loved that thing.

948
00:34:51,260 --> 00:34:53,980
Like every single, because like...

949
00:34:53,980 --> 00:34:54,820
- You know why?

950
00:34:54,820 --> 00:34:57,060
'Cause it was simple on the parent's side.

951
00:34:57,060 --> 00:35:01,660
I hit the button and I'm talking to my kids at this point.

952
00:35:01,660 --> 00:35:03,540
- It was super nice.

953
00:35:03,540 --> 00:35:05,940
The funny thing is you had to create like a Facebook account

954
00:35:05,940 --> 00:35:07,900
for somebody that's never gonna use Facebook,

955
00:35:07,900 --> 00:35:10,460
and then everybody had to like add him as a friend,

956
00:35:10,460 --> 00:35:12,700
and it just became this whole thing.

957
00:35:12,700 --> 00:35:14,700
- I want even less steps.

958
00:35:14,700 --> 00:35:15,540
- Yeah.

959
00:35:15,540 --> 00:35:17,500
- I want one, which is honestly, Chase,

960
00:35:17,500 --> 00:35:18,340
what you were saying about like,

961
00:35:18,340 --> 00:35:21,180
yeah, this is gonna be such a target for hackers on it.

962
00:35:21,180 --> 00:35:23,620
And you're right, it probably would be.

963
00:35:23,620 --> 00:35:26,340
I really like the idea of having it like,

964
00:35:26,340 --> 00:35:28,620
it is fully disconnected from everything.

965
00:35:28,620 --> 00:35:31,060
Just a couple of relays in there that are like,

966
00:35:31,060 --> 00:35:33,700
you cannot do this until the person comes over

967
00:35:33,700 --> 00:35:35,380
and like hits the big button on top

968
00:35:35,380 --> 00:35:38,100
that activates everything, then I get the link to use.

969
00:35:38,100 --> 00:35:40,380
So that there aren't even more scams going around

970
00:35:40,380 --> 00:35:43,260
through my mobile laser pointer device.

971
00:35:43,260 --> 00:35:46,740
- Could you just get like security cameras or something?

972
00:35:46,740 --> 00:35:49,780
And then when you hit the button, it gives them power.

973
00:35:49,780 --> 00:35:50,660
I don't know.

974
00:35:50,660 --> 00:35:53,460
Seems like this should not be difficult to prototype.

975
00:35:53,460 --> 00:35:55,580
Like we should be able to buy a bunch of off the shelf stuff

976
00:35:55,580 --> 00:35:57,620
and just slap it together, right?

977
00:35:57,620 --> 00:35:58,460
- Oh yeah.

978
00:35:58,460 --> 00:35:59,300
- All right, cool.

979
00:35:59,300 --> 00:36:01,580
- We'll report back next week with our prototype.

980
00:36:01,580 --> 00:36:02,740
(laughing)

981
00:36:02,740 --> 00:36:06,260
- With their ball of UV cameras and laser pointer

982
00:36:06,260 --> 00:36:08,180
with the Nerf gun firing.

983
00:36:08,180 --> 00:36:10,460
(laughing)

984
00:36:10,460 --> 00:36:12,100
- Just create a BB-8, you know?

985
00:36:12,100 --> 00:36:15,200
Just get an R2-D2 made for real, though, real life one.

986
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,660
- Seriously.

987
00:36:17,660 --> 00:36:20,340
- This is, I was thinking about this.

988
00:36:20,340 --> 00:36:22,900
What if you had a device, like my wife,

989
00:36:22,900 --> 00:36:24,780
it takes care of my kid, right?

990
00:36:24,780 --> 00:36:28,660
And what if she falls or like gets injured

991
00:36:28,660 --> 00:36:31,820
and nobody's able to call me, right?

992
00:36:31,820 --> 00:36:33,540
That this has happened.

993
00:36:33,540 --> 00:36:37,060
But if I put up a little device for my kid

994
00:36:37,060 --> 00:36:42,060
to call grandma, grandpa, just very simple interface.

995
00:36:42,060 --> 00:36:44,500
- Life alert for babies.

996
00:36:44,500 --> 00:36:47,900
- Yes, like kind of like old people

997
00:36:47,900 --> 00:36:51,600
and very young people have a lot in common, right?

998
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,460
(laughing)

999
00:36:53,460 --> 00:36:54,300
I mean.

1000
00:36:54,300 --> 00:36:55,140
- Life is a bell curve of skills.

1001
00:36:55,140 --> 00:36:58,040
- They can nap whenever they want, me too.

1002
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,220
They don't know what time it is.

1003
00:37:00,220 --> 00:37:02,220
Impulse control, I don't know.

1004
00:37:02,220 --> 00:37:06,940
- They can't install Netflix on their smart TV.

1005
00:37:06,940 --> 00:37:08,420
- That's, yes, right?

1006
00:37:08,420 --> 00:37:13,420
But they wanna watch a show and they will demand for it.

1007
00:37:13,420 --> 00:37:14,820
It's very similar.

1008
00:37:14,820 --> 00:37:19,820
So I guess, don't stop at all, people,

1009
00:37:19,820 --> 00:37:22,860
saying, but like I think babies would love

1010
00:37:22,860 --> 00:37:24,620
to call their grandma, you know?

1011
00:37:24,620 --> 00:37:27,780
And how awesome would it be if my kids

1012
00:37:27,780 --> 00:37:29,480
were talking to grandpa all the time,

1013
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:30,720
whenever he wanted, right?

1014
00:37:30,720 --> 00:37:32,740
It wasn't like a forced option.

1015
00:37:32,740 --> 00:37:33,580
It was--

1016
00:37:33,580 --> 00:37:36,000
- My kids are already talking to grandma all the time

1017
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:37,200
and I hate it.

1018
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,460
(laughing)

1019
00:37:39,460 --> 00:37:41,260
- Do they initiate it all by themselves?

1020
00:37:41,260 --> 00:37:43,040
- No, I don't know who's initiating it.

1021
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:44,440
I'm sure she's initiating it.

1022
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,160
But I feel like every time I turn around,

1023
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,080
they're talking to grandma and grandma doesn't hang up.

1024
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:49,760
She just waits, right?

1025
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:51,320
The kids are just running around with the phone.

1026
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,320
They'll set it down in the corner and grandma will just wait.

1027
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:55,160
(laughing)

1028
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,120
- But then Zion's phone's on a commission.

1029
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:57,960
You need the orb.

1030
00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:58,780
- It's awful.

1031
00:37:58,780 --> 00:37:59,880
- Yeah, the orb.

1032
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:02,240
- It's gotta be mounted to a wall

1033
00:38:02,240 --> 00:38:04,680
and expire after 20 minutes.

1034
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,240
You have to restart the session every--

1035
00:38:07,240 --> 00:38:08,080
- There you go.

1036
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,540
- I want it so that it's tracking faces

1037
00:38:10,540 --> 00:38:12,480
and if there's not a face in front of the screen,

1038
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:13,320
ends the call.

1039
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,600
So when my kids walk away, it's over, boom.

1040
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:20,240
- That's actually very convenient for old and young people.

1041
00:38:20,240 --> 00:38:22,280
(laughing)

1042
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:23,240
- Let's do that.

1043
00:38:26,140 --> 00:38:26,980
- Oh yeah.

1044
00:38:26,980 --> 00:38:31,340
- All right, Leo, what idea do you have this week?

1045
00:38:31,340 --> 00:38:36,340
- All right, I was in a newly opened health food store here

1046
00:38:36,340 --> 00:38:39,380
where we live and they have this super cute thing

1047
00:38:39,380 --> 00:38:40,300
that I'd never seen before

1048
00:38:40,300 --> 00:38:42,940
where they have regular size carts for the adults

1049
00:38:42,940 --> 00:38:45,180
and they have little tiny kid sized carts

1050
00:38:45,180 --> 00:38:48,740
and there's a big flag that comes up from the cart

1051
00:38:48,740 --> 00:38:50,540
that says shopper in training

1052
00:38:50,540 --> 00:38:52,300
and they can walk around the store with their parents

1053
00:38:52,300 --> 00:38:55,180
and put their products into their own shopping carts.

1054
00:38:55,180 --> 00:38:56,100
And it's super cute, right?

1055
00:38:56,100 --> 00:38:57,300
It gives the kids something to do

1056
00:38:57,300 --> 00:38:58,620
so they're not wandering around

1057
00:38:58,620 --> 00:38:59,820
stealing cookies off the shelf

1058
00:38:59,820 --> 00:39:02,180
and throwing tantrums in the middle of the aisle.

1059
00:39:02,180 --> 00:39:04,540
It gives them purpose and autonomy.

1060
00:39:04,540 --> 00:39:07,300
And I was thinking about the logical end of that situation

1061
00:39:07,300 --> 00:39:09,740
where they arrive at the checkout lane together

1062
00:39:09,740 --> 00:39:13,180
and you've got too wide of a cart situation going on

1063
00:39:13,180 --> 00:39:14,340
and you're trying to figure out

1064
00:39:14,340 --> 00:39:16,180
what products are in what cart, get it all.

1065
00:39:16,180 --> 00:39:18,780
Mom or dad is struggling to get all the stuff

1066
00:39:18,780 --> 00:39:21,660
out of both the carts and that'd be a little bit chaotic.

1067
00:39:21,660 --> 00:39:25,660
I think that there should be a checkout lane

1068
00:39:25,660 --> 00:39:27,900
much like you have like the regular checkout lanes

1069
00:39:27,900 --> 00:39:30,180
and the robot checkout lanes for self-checkout.

1070
00:39:30,180 --> 00:39:31,220
There should be one or two

1071
00:39:31,220 --> 00:39:34,920
that is the parent and child co-lanes

1072
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:36,300
where they're paired together.

1073
00:39:36,300 --> 00:39:39,460
The parent walks up and they start the checkout system.

1074
00:39:39,460 --> 00:39:40,900
They say, you know, begin the new thing

1075
00:39:40,900 --> 00:39:42,280
and they scan their first item

1076
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,600
and both the normal height one

1077
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:48,500
and the small kid height one light up together

1078
00:39:48,500 --> 00:39:50,480
and the kid can start checking out too.

1079
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,180
It shows up on the one bill.

1080
00:39:52,180 --> 00:39:54,740
It's all going to the parent's one who's in control.

1081
00:39:54,740 --> 00:39:56,460
The kid gets a dumbed down interface

1082
00:39:56,460 --> 00:39:59,900
where they're only looking at like, hold item here.

1083
00:39:59,900 --> 00:40:01,780
Great, you did it, put it in the spot.

1084
00:40:01,780 --> 00:40:04,540
It doesn't have to have much on the kid's side.

1085
00:40:04,540 --> 00:40:06,780
But then at the very end, mom says complete

1086
00:40:06,780 --> 00:40:09,740
or dad says complete and then they both get totaled up

1087
00:40:09,740 --> 00:40:12,820
and it's like, you know, giving the kid more,

1088
00:40:12,820 --> 00:40:15,420
hey, you did it, good job autonomy, you know?

1089
00:40:15,420 --> 00:40:16,260
- Awesome.

1090
00:40:16,260 --> 00:40:18,220
This is fricking, I don't know why

1091
00:40:18,240 --> 00:40:22,440
but I feel like this is so important for the world.

1092
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,960
- I imagine the checkout machine companies

1093
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,120
are not at the forefront of innovation

1094
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,280
but there's gotta be like something

1095
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,120
that you could pitch to a regional chain

1096
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,060
that would, they'd be interested in prototyping

1097
00:40:35,060 --> 00:40:35,980
something like this, right?

1098
00:40:35,980 --> 00:40:38,040
- Yeah, just make a modular device

1099
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,760
that you can drop into any store from there.

1100
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,080
- Oh, that could be fun.

1101
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:45,120
- I mean, all the checkout lanes are now self-checkout

1102
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:46,080
for the most part, right?

1103
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,100
Like they need to figure out what to do

1104
00:40:48,100 --> 00:40:50,020
with all these checkout lanes.

1105
00:40:50,020 --> 00:40:51,740
Dude, like you can create that whole--

1106
00:40:51,740 --> 00:40:53,660
- The very best case scenario in the checkout lane

1107
00:40:53,660 --> 00:40:55,700
when you have a kid is that they're immobile

1108
00:40:55,700 --> 00:40:57,700
because they're trapped in a cart or whatever, right?

1109
00:40:57,700 --> 00:40:59,940
Like it's not, it's never pretty

1110
00:40:59,940 --> 00:41:01,560
when you have a bunch of kids running around

1111
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,500
in a small confined checkout lane.

1112
00:41:03,500 --> 00:41:05,500
Give them something to do, you know?

1113
00:41:05,500 --> 00:41:08,940
- I know and they put the gum and the candy in arm's reach.

1114
00:41:08,940 --> 00:41:11,580
They literally try to make it awful.

1115
00:41:11,580 --> 00:41:13,620
- On the parent's side, they could be like approving

1116
00:41:13,620 --> 00:41:15,300
the items as they come so the kid doesn't try

1117
00:41:15,300 --> 00:41:17,020
to sneak Oreos through or whatever.

1118
00:41:17,020 --> 00:41:18,360
- Oreos, Oreos, Oreos.

1119
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,060
(laughing)

1120
00:41:21,060 --> 00:41:21,900
- Yeah.

1121
00:41:21,900 --> 00:41:23,460
- I think they should just, honestly Leo,

1122
00:41:23,460 --> 00:41:25,800
like you could create that whole fancy interface

1123
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:27,860
but like just drop them in a ball pit.

1124
00:41:27,860 --> 00:41:29,760
Like this is the ball pit lane.

1125
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,800
Put them down in there.

1126
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,780
It's like a little bit cage-like, you know?

1127
00:41:34,780 --> 00:41:38,180
But like we just need to check out here

1128
00:41:38,180 --> 00:41:40,880
and the kids are always at the end of their rope

1129
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,120
by the time that they've got to the checkout.

1130
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,220
They've sat in the cart the whole time.

1131
00:41:45,220 --> 00:41:47,420
They didn't get half the shit they wanted

1132
00:41:47,420 --> 00:41:50,380
so they're already mad.

1133
00:41:50,380 --> 00:41:53,100
And then all the cool stuff at checkout,

1134
00:41:53,100 --> 00:41:54,940
nope, mom and dad won't let me.

1135
00:41:54,940 --> 00:41:57,580
So, oh, but here's a ball pit.

1136
00:41:57,580 --> 00:41:59,380
Just sit, you know, or whatever.

1137
00:41:59,380 --> 00:42:04,140
Like a slide, you know, just that would be, that's it.

1138
00:42:04,140 --> 00:42:06,300
You just take one checkout lane and literally that,

1139
00:42:06,300 --> 00:42:09,700
I bet that lane is gonna be long, like 30 minutes long

1140
00:42:09,700 --> 00:42:11,980
'cause it's worth waiting for.

1141
00:42:11,980 --> 00:42:12,820
- Maybe.

1142
00:42:12,940 --> 00:42:16,140
- Like if you are, it can be a normal checkout lane, right?

1143
00:42:16,140 --> 00:42:18,100
If you don't have a kid, it doesn't have to function

1144
00:42:18,100 --> 00:42:20,260
with the little kids thing, that's like an option.

1145
00:42:20,260 --> 00:42:21,860
They should have a couple of them here and there

1146
00:42:21,860 --> 00:42:23,820
that are right next to the regular one, you know?

1147
00:42:23,820 --> 00:42:25,600
It doesn't take up space too much.

1148
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,660
- Yeah, they do this with like this,

1149
00:42:27,660 --> 00:42:29,300
like you know how there's like a special lane

1150
00:42:29,300 --> 00:42:31,580
for like the liquor and cigarettes?

1151
00:42:31,580 --> 00:42:33,700
I think they have it at like Walmart.

1152
00:42:33,700 --> 00:42:37,340
Like you just take that section out and just put it,

1153
00:42:37,340 --> 00:42:39,580
that's the kid one, right?

1154
00:42:39,580 --> 00:42:41,820
- We're gonna make liquor and cigarettes for kids.

1155
00:42:41,820 --> 00:42:44,060
(laughing)

1156
00:42:44,060 --> 00:42:47,740
- Try to open this device, unlock the.

1157
00:42:47,740 --> 00:42:48,700
- I think you're right though,

1158
00:42:48,700 --> 00:42:52,060
that they're not too concerned about people with kids

1159
00:42:52,060 --> 00:42:54,740
and optimizing the experience for eight year olds.

1160
00:42:54,740 --> 00:42:58,660
- Your MVP could just be like just another checkout lane,

1161
00:42:58,660 --> 00:43:02,060
a plastic checkout lane that has no electronics at all,

1162
00:43:02,060 --> 00:43:03,740
except a beeping noise.

1163
00:43:03,740 --> 00:43:05,060
And then when you've scanned items,

1164
00:43:05,060 --> 00:43:06,820
you put them in the kids section

1165
00:43:06,820 --> 00:43:08,780
that they can scan them to and put it in.

1166
00:43:08,780 --> 00:43:09,620
- That's a good idea.

1167
00:43:09,620 --> 00:43:10,620
- And that's the whole thing.

1168
00:43:10,620 --> 00:43:12,660
You're helping, you're helping daddy.

1169
00:43:12,660 --> 00:43:14,420
- Fisher Price might already make something like that.

1170
00:43:14,420 --> 00:43:15,460
You just stick it in there.

1171
00:43:15,460 --> 00:43:16,860
- Yeah, totally.

1172
00:43:16,860 --> 00:43:17,820
- Put it in a grocery store,

1173
00:43:17,820 --> 00:43:19,420
sell it to a grocery store.

1174
00:43:19,420 --> 00:43:20,260
- Something made of metal.

1175
00:43:20,260 --> 00:43:24,500
- Dude, this could be like a revenue stream for them.

1176
00:43:24,500 --> 00:43:26,960
I think if you created like, I don't know,

1177
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,900
maybe a little section of the store for them to,

1178
00:43:29,900 --> 00:43:32,760
everything's their heights and they got to pick.

1179
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:36,540
It's all like a mini dollar store for kids, right?

1180
00:43:36,540 --> 00:43:37,380
- That's cool.

1181
00:43:37,380 --> 00:43:40,220
- You have five dollars and just give them five singles

1182
00:43:40,220 --> 00:43:41,420
like pick out five things.

1183
00:43:41,420 --> 00:43:42,860
Little checkout experience.

1184
00:43:42,860 --> 00:43:44,220
- Maybe one dollar, how about one dollar?

1185
00:43:44,220 --> 00:43:45,620
- Get the brand loyalty.

1186
00:43:45,620 --> 00:43:47,460
- It's all like Chuck E. Cheese tokens, right?

1187
00:43:47,460 --> 00:43:49,580
You buy a little Chuck E. Cheese token at the start

1188
00:43:49,580 --> 00:43:51,380
and you say, this is your coin and they get the whole,

1189
00:43:51,380 --> 00:43:52,380
yeah, that's a fun idea.

1190
00:43:52,380 --> 00:43:53,220
- That's a good idea.

1191
00:43:53,220 --> 00:43:55,220
- Target would eat that up.

1192
00:43:55,220 --> 00:43:57,060
Target, like put a little,

1193
00:43:57,060 --> 00:43:59,340
like they're all about the Target mom, right?

1194
00:43:59,340 --> 00:44:01,140
They have the dollar store section

1195
00:44:01,140 --> 00:44:04,980
and you get a brand loyal buyer forever.

1196
00:44:04,980 --> 00:44:07,860
Like mama's going to Target, let's go.

1197
00:44:07,860 --> 00:44:08,700
- Sure.

1198
00:44:08,700 --> 00:44:10,620
- I'm a buyer, I want to stay at home.

1199
00:44:10,620 --> 00:44:14,620
Sorry, Meyer, if you were going to be a sponsor,

1200
00:44:14,620 --> 00:44:16,340
no, I'll flip the names.

1201
00:44:16,340 --> 00:44:18,620
But yeah, that's like the concept, right?

1202
00:44:18,620 --> 00:44:20,060
I think you can turn this into,

1203
00:44:20,060 --> 00:44:22,820
rather than just trying to accommodate a busy parent,

1204
00:44:22,820 --> 00:44:26,260
like turn this into a revenue stream for kids.

1205
00:44:26,260 --> 00:44:27,660
- Make a part of your brand.

1206
00:44:27,660 --> 00:44:29,260
- Yeah, this is like, what is it?

1207
00:44:29,260 --> 00:44:31,780
Children's museums do this all the time, right?

1208
00:44:31,780 --> 00:44:35,220
So like they have sponsored little sections

1209
00:44:35,220 --> 00:44:37,660
for grocery stores all the time.

1210
00:44:37,660 --> 00:44:40,500
So I don't know, this just seems like an easy add on.

1211
00:44:40,500 --> 00:44:42,740
And you would just make money building these

1212
00:44:42,740 --> 00:44:43,860
and selling the products.

1213
00:44:43,860 --> 00:44:45,660
You just out of the box solution,

1214
00:44:45,660 --> 00:44:48,820
we need a four by four square or not,

1215
00:44:48,820 --> 00:44:50,660
like maybe not four feet, maybe.

1216
00:44:50,660 --> 00:44:52,820
I don't know how big these kids need to be.

1217
00:44:52,820 --> 00:44:56,460
But you just create a set, maybe a wall of goods.

1218
00:44:56,460 --> 00:44:58,340
It's like a vending machine for kids or something.

1219
00:44:58,340 --> 00:45:01,900
I don't know, like sized thing or better

1220
00:45:01,900 --> 00:45:04,780
depending on how you guys, whoever makes this does it.

1221
00:45:04,780 --> 00:45:05,620
Right?

1222
00:45:05,620 --> 00:45:07,940
And here, our local grocery store, Chainmire,

1223
00:45:07,940 --> 00:45:10,780
has like a whole separate store within the store

1224
00:45:10,780 --> 00:45:13,060
for just the alcohol section.

1225
00:45:13,060 --> 00:45:14,500
It does seem like you could have that,

1226
00:45:14,500 --> 00:45:19,460
but the Chuck E. Cheese area, everything's kid sized.

1227
00:45:19,460 --> 00:45:20,300
That's fun.

1228
00:45:20,300 --> 00:45:21,140
- Just small enough.

1229
00:45:21,140 --> 00:45:22,500
And it's got all this stuff, right?

1230
00:45:22,500 --> 00:45:24,300
So it's, yeah, it should be.

1231
00:45:24,300 --> 00:45:26,660
I mean, they're selling to kids all the time.

1232
00:45:26,660 --> 00:45:30,420
Like just put every Hot Wheels car in one section,

1233
00:45:30,420 --> 00:45:31,940
every little ball.

1234
00:45:31,940 --> 00:45:35,180
You just, that's, I know exactly what would go on that shelf

1235
00:45:35,180 --> 00:45:36,460
and they're playing with it the whole time.

1236
00:45:36,460 --> 00:45:37,900
- It needs to be consumables,

1237
00:45:37,900 --> 00:45:39,700
moderately healthy consumables.

1238
00:45:39,700 --> 00:45:42,140
I'm not going to get a new Hot Wheels car

1239
00:45:42,140 --> 00:45:44,460
every time I have to go to the grocery store, Russell.

1240
00:45:44,460 --> 00:45:46,620
(laughing)

1241
00:45:46,620 --> 00:45:49,500
- I mean, you're not my customer, Leo.

1242
00:45:49,500 --> 00:45:50,700
Your kid is, all right?

1243
00:45:50,700 --> 00:45:52,860
That's for sure, so.

1244
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:59,980
- All right, Chase, what have you brought to us this week?

1245
00:45:59,980 --> 00:46:01,060
- Can I pitch two ideas?

1246
00:46:01,060 --> 00:46:01,980
Is that allowed?

1247
00:46:01,980 --> 00:46:04,180
- Damn, sure, I guess.

1248
00:46:04,180 --> 00:46:06,140
- Yeah, why not? - It's your pitch, go for it.

1249
00:46:06,140 --> 00:46:08,340
- They're free. - All right.

1250
00:46:08,340 --> 00:46:10,620
- You're giving these ideas away, you know.

1251
00:46:10,620 --> 00:46:11,860
- Yeah, no, that's cool.

1252
00:46:11,860 --> 00:46:13,260
Yeah, I mean, I'm just hoping

1253
00:46:13,260 --> 00:46:15,020
that somebody's going to execute on these

1254
00:46:15,020 --> 00:46:17,580
so that I can be a customer.

1255
00:46:17,580 --> 00:46:18,780
- Hittas.

1256
00:46:18,780 --> 00:46:21,780
- So I pitched this one in an email, actually,

1257
00:46:21,780 --> 00:46:25,220
a couple of weeks ago for my newsletter,

1258
00:46:25,220 --> 00:46:26,900
just people who have bought my book.

1259
00:46:26,900 --> 00:46:30,580
And that was a Netflix for Legos.

1260
00:46:30,580 --> 00:46:35,420
So basically, my kids, they'll put together a Lego set,

1261
00:46:35,420 --> 00:46:37,580
and then it basically just goes in the bin

1262
00:46:37,580 --> 00:46:38,780
with all the other Legos.

1263
00:46:38,780 --> 00:46:41,140
And we've got, I mean, I said a bin.

1264
00:46:41,140 --> 00:46:44,820
I've got three of these huge bins filled with Legos.

1265
00:46:44,820 --> 00:46:47,060
And we have more than enough for free building,

1266
00:46:47,060 --> 00:46:48,980
and my kids are terrible at free building anyway

1267
00:46:48,980 --> 00:46:49,860
and never do it.

1268
00:46:49,860 --> 00:46:51,860
But it just feels like such a waste

1269
00:46:51,860 --> 00:46:53,700
to spend $100 on a new Lego set,

1270
00:46:53,700 --> 00:46:54,540
and they do it once,

1271
00:46:54,540 --> 00:46:56,340
and then it just goes in the bin forever.

1272
00:46:56,340 --> 00:46:59,020
And so I was like, what if I could just rent the Lego set?

1273
00:46:59,020 --> 00:46:59,860
They could put it together.

1274
00:46:59,860 --> 00:47:00,780
I could send it back,

1275
00:47:00,780 --> 00:47:03,100
and they could send it on to another kid, right?

1276
00:47:03,100 --> 00:47:05,060
So that's idea number one.

1277
00:47:05,060 --> 00:47:05,900
- That's great.

1278
00:47:05,900 --> 00:47:07,580
- Oh, Lego library.

1279
00:47:07,580 --> 00:47:09,260
- Like a Lego library.

1280
00:47:09,260 --> 00:47:11,740
And I think some libraries might even have Legos.

1281
00:47:11,740 --> 00:47:12,900
Mine doesn't.

1282
00:47:12,900 --> 00:47:15,780
But I think, I don't know, I think it's a cool idea.

1283
00:47:15,780 --> 00:47:17,220
There's some issues with,

1284
00:47:17,220 --> 00:47:18,700
you gotta figure out shipping,

1285
00:47:18,700 --> 00:47:21,200
'cause you start shipping Lego sets back and forth.

1286
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:22,660
If you get people on subscription,

1287
00:47:22,660 --> 00:47:24,940
and they're doing two or three a month,

1288
00:47:24,940 --> 00:47:27,080
shipping adds up.

1289
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,180
Yeah, and then counting pieces.

1290
00:47:29,180 --> 00:47:32,300
I feel like that's a solvable problem.

1291
00:47:32,300 --> 00:47:34,540
We could build some robots to count pieces.

1292
00:47:34,540 --> 00:47:36,580
Like there's some YouTube videos of people.

1293
00:47:36,580 --> 00:47:37,820
- Yeah, wait when it gets back,

1294
00:47:37,820 --> 00:47:39,340
and if it's off by X amount,

1295
00:47:39,340 --> 00:47:41,780
then pull it open and count the pieces or something.

1296
00:47:41,780 --> 00:47:42,620
- Sure, yeah.

1297
00:47:42,620 --> 00:47:44,140
- Right, visual learning, right?

1298
00:47:44,140 --> 00:47:46,180
That's the visual eye camera thing.

1299
00:47:46,180 --> 00:47:48,860
- Yeah, but those are solvable issues.

1300
00:47:48,860 --> 00:47:50,340
- Yes.

1301
00:47:50,340 --> 00:47:51,620
- Those are fun problems.

1302
00:47:51,620 --> 00:47:52,460
- Those are fun problems.

1303
00:47:52,460 --> 00:47:54,140
- And if you're making the service,

1304
00:47:54,140 --> 00:47:57,380
you don't have to use the official Harry Potter set

1305
00:47:57,380 --> 00:47:58,600
with all of its whack pieces.

1306
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,700
You could make your own sets that are a little more basic

1307
00:48:00,700 --> 00:48:04,420
and easy to keep track of with all the basic parts.

1308
00:48:04,420 --> 00:48:06,220
You have your own plain set

1309
00:48:06,220 --> 00:48:09,620
that your Netflix for Legos has designed with,

1310
00:48:09,620 --> 00:48:12,500
you know exactly it's the same 50 pieces

1311
00:48:12,500 --> 00:48:13,540
across the entire thing,

1312
00:48:13,540 --> 00:48:15,280
so you get the economies of scale there.

1313
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:16,120
- Yeah.

1314
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:16,940
- Whoa.

1315
00:48:16,940 --> 00:48:20,580
- And there are some people who have done similar things.

1316
00:48:20,580 --> 00:48:22,580
I think there's somebody in the UK

1317
00:48:22,580 --> 00:48:26,820
that's doing rent Lego stuff.

1318
00:48:26,820 --> 00:48:28,180
I don't know, I think it's a fun idea.

1319
00:48:28,180 --> 00:48:30,020
I would sign up and do it.

1320
00:48:30,020 --> 00:48:32,140
- Dude, I could Spitball that for like,

1321
00:48:32,140 --> 00:48:33,140
what Leo, you just said.

1322
00:48:33,140 --> 00:48:33,980
- I know, same.

1323
00:48:33,980 --> 00:48:37,860
- Chase, you could totally, I think you said this,

1324
00:48:37,860 --> 00:48:40,140
what if you took or scanned all the Legos

1325
00:48:40,140 --> 00:48:45,140
in your library and just open source Lego creations, right?

1326
00:48:45,140 --> 00:48:49,440
And so now people know your inventory

1327
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:51,620
and now your subscription Netflix style

1328
00:48:51,620 --> 00:48:53,640
is not getting new boxes,

1329
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,420
but taking your current Lego set

1330
00:48:55,420 --> 00:49:00,060
and applying it to new designs, creator community,

1331
00:49:00,060 --> 00:49:03,080
or it just auto generates the instructions

1332
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,260
based upon what you have in front of you.

1333
00:49:05,260 --> 00:49:07,380
- So there's actually an app that does this.

1334
00:49:07,380 --> 00:49:09,140
I think it's called Brick It.

1335
00:49:09,140 --> 00:49:09,980
- No way.

1336
00:49:09,980 --> 00:49:13,100
- And you spread out all your Legos on the carpet

1337
00:49:13,100 --> 00:49:14,780
and then you like hold it up

1338
00:49:14,780 --> 00:49:18,020
and it's supposed to scan your Legos and inventory

1339
00:49:18,020 --> 00:49:19,620
and then tell you what you can build.

1340
00:49:19,620 --> 00:49:20,460
- That's really cool.

1341
00:49:20,460 --> 00:49:22,460
- In theory, it's really awesome.

1342
00:49:22,460 --> 00:49:23,900
I haven't used it in a while,

1343
00:49:23,900 --> 00:49:25,740
but I tried using it like two years ago

1344
00:49:25,740 --> 00:49:28,740
and I scanned probably like 200 pieces

1345
00:49:28,740 --> 00:49:30,260
and then it kicked back and it was like,

1346
00:49:30,260 --> 00:49:32,700
you can use 20 of your pieces to build this bird.

1347
00:49:32,700 --> 00:49:34,860
And I was like, oh, that's not exciting.

1348
00:49:34,860 --> 00:49:38,620
So the execution wasn't quite there when I tested it.

1349
00:49:38,620 --> 00:49:41,220
It's probably better now, but yeah.

1350
00:49:41,220 --> 00:49:42,060
- Maybe the community.

1351
00:49:42,060 --> 00:49:45,820
- There's a lot of people in the Lego space

1352
00:49:45,820 --> 00:49:47,580
working on cool ideas like this.

1353
00:49:47,580 --> 00:49:51,540
- Peer to peer, like, hey, you and the guy across town

1354
00:49:51,540 --> 00:49:54,980
who has similar age kids, if you work together,

1355
00:49:54,980 --> 00:49:56,700
you could build this mega robot,

1356
00:49:56,700 --> 00:49:59,020
but you only have half the pieces

1357
00:49:59,020 --> 00:50:00,780
and so do they have the other half.

1358
00:50:00,780 --> 00:50:02,580
It's a dating app, but for Legos.

1359
00:50:02,580 --> 00:50:05,020
(laughing)

1360
00:50:05,020 --> 00:50:06,460
- Yikes.

1361
00:50:06,460 --> 00:50:08,380
- No, it could be good what you were saying though.

1362
00:50:08,380 --> 00:50:10,540
Like if you could inventory all of your Legos

1363
00:50:10,540 --> 00:50:13,060
and do it correctly, you know,

1364
00:50:13,060 --> 00:50:15,220
and then like upload it somewhere

1365
00:50:15,220 --> 00:50:16,660
and then we could send you designs,

1366
00:50:16,660 --> 00:50:18,460
that'd be cool for sure.

1367
00:50:18,460 --> 00:50:20,380
Or if you could just somehow say like,

1368
00:50:20,380 --> 00:50:22,820
I know I've bought this Lego set in the past,

1369
00:50:22,820 --> 00:50:24,220
I've bought this Lego set in the past,

1370
00:50:24,220 --> 00:50:28,300
like I know I have these pieces and just do it that way.

1371
00:50:28,300 --> 00:50:29,820
Like maybe that's the way to do it.

1372
00:50:29,820 --> 00:50:32,060
And then it's like, oh yeah, build the mega robot

1373
00:50:32,060 --> 00:50:35,300
from, you know, these 20 sets that you said

1374
00:50:35,300 --> 00:50:37,180
you already, that you have.

1375
00:50:37,180 --> 00:50:40,540
- And Lego themselves have the whole like ideas forge thing

1376
00:50:40,540 --> 00:50:42,780
where people submit designs that they've created

1377
00:50:42,780 --> 00:50:44,980
that they want Lego to make a set for.

1378
00:50:44,980 --> 00:50:47,940
So clearly there's like a well of people

1379
00:50:47,940 --> 00:50:51,540
who are creative with designing cool new things

1380
00:50:51,540 --> 00:50:53,700
that are like, they have,

1381
00:50:53,700 --> 00:50:56,220
here's what you could make with these parts, right?

1382
00:50:56,220 --> 00:50:58,100
That inspiration is out there.

1383
00:50:58,100 --> 00:51:00,100
I'm not the kind of person who can look at a pile

1384
00:51:00,100 --> 00:51:02,100
and say, this is gonna be great as a robot,

1385
00:51:02,100 --> 00:51:05,140
but there's clearly a lot of people out there who are,

1386
00:51:05,140 --> 00:51:07,340
I'd love to like get connected with them, yeah.

1387
00:51:07,340 --> 00:51:08,180
- That's cool.

1388
00:51:08,180 --> 00:51:10,100
- So idea number two.

1389
00:51:10,100 --> 00:51:11,100
- Yeah.

1390
00:51:11,100 --> 00:51:14,780
- So my kids, I've been paying to have my kids

1391
00:51:14,780 --> 00:51:17,500
take tennis lessons for like two years, okay?

1392
00:51:18,340 --> 00:51:21,220
My son is like eight years old and I,

1393
00:51:21,220 --> 00:51:23,100
and then I go out and I play tennis with him

1394
00:51:23,100 --> 00:51:26,220
and he's swinging his racket, like windmilling it.

1395
00:51:26,220 --> 00:51:29,340
I'm like, dude, forehand, bring it across your body.

1396
00:51:29,340 --> 00:51:32,420
This is like day one in tennis is like how to hit

1397
00:51:32,420 --> 00:51:35,300
a basic forehand and you're swinging the racket around

1398
00:51:35,300 --> 00:51:36,620
like it's a windmill.

1399
00:51:36,620 --> 00:51:40,460
And like, I'm like, you can't hit the ball like that.

1400
00:51:40,460 --> 00:51:44,220
And like, I've probably spent thousands of dollars,

1401
00:51:44,220 --> 00:51:48,660
literally thousands of dollars for my kid to learn tennis.

1402
00:51:48,660 --> 00:51:50,900
And he doesn't even know how to hit the ball.

1403
00:51:50,900 --> 00:51:52,220
(laughing)

1404
00:51:52,220 --> 00:51:55,660
It's, oh, it's making me so upset.

1405
00:51:55,660 --> 00:51:56,500
Anyway.

1406
00:51:56,500 --> 00:51:57,340
- How did you solve this?

1407
00:51:57,340 --> 00:51:58,180
I'd love to hear it.

1408
00:51:58,180 --> 00:52:00,300
- I feel the idea, the idea I had.

1409
00:52:00,300 --> 00:52:02,020
- Is a pit to burn money in.

1410
00:52:02,020 --> 00:52:03,900
- Does it involve a lot of rubber bands?

1411
00:52:03,900 --> 00:52:06,300
(laughing)

1412
00:52:06,300 --> 00:52:09,580
- Around this time, I bought one of those VR,

1413
00:52:09,580 --> 00:52:12,700
Oculus, Rift headsets, right?

1414
00:52:12,700 --> 00:52:15,980
And so, and my kid, like, I didn't even tell my kid

1415
00:52:15,980 --> 00:52:18,140
that I bought one of these 'cause I knew that he would

1416
00:52:18,140 --> 00:52:21,100
just pep me all day long wanting to use it.

1417
00:52:21,100 --> 00:52:24,980
'Cause he would use it all day if I would let him, right?

1418
00:52:24,980 --> 00:52:26,540
So I was thinking it'd be cool to just have like

1419
00:52:26,540 --> 00:52:29,660
a tennis training app that was like in VR

1420
00:52:29,660 --> 00:52:32,660
where it's like, we start simple.

1421
00:52:32,660 --> 00:52:35,220
We just put coins or something in the air

1422
00:52:35,220 --> 00:52:38,860
and he's just gotta make that basic forehand stroke

1423
00:52:38,860 --> 00:52:40,140
and collect the coins.

1424
00:52:40,140 --> 00:52:42,300
(imitating coin dropping)

1425
00:52:42,300 --> 00:52:44,820
And then it's like, you know, he just swings through

1426
00:52:44,820 --> 00:52:45,660
and he collects the coins.

1427
00:52:45,660 --> 00:52:48,220
- So this is a wax on, wax off app.

1428
00:52:48,220 --> 00:52:49,060
- Yeah.

1429
00:52:49,060 --> 00:52:50,940
- Where it just has like the outline of the hand to go.

1430
00:52:50,940 --> 00:52:52,980
- We're just gonna draw basic stroke.

1431
00:52:52,980 --> 00:52:55,420
And then maybe like after a while we remove the coins

1432
00:52:55,420 --> 00:52:58,340
and we just have a ball that stands free in the air

1433
00:52:58,340 --> 00:52:59,900
and he just hits that ball.

1434
00:52:59,900 --> 00:53:02,180
And then maybe the ball just bounces and then you hit it.

1435
00:53:02,180 --> 00:53:04,460
And we just work up to like hitting a ball.

1436
00:53:04,460 --> 00:53:07,260
But we're drilling that basic stroke over and over again

1437
00:53:07,260 --> 00:53:09,540
and we're monitoring that he's like doing it right

1438
00:53:09,540 --> 00:53:11,660
and he's not windmilling, right?

1439
00:53:11,660 --> 00:53:14,700
And I just think that that would be like a super useful,

1440
00:53:14,700 --> 00:53:16,900
let's build some muscle memory here

1441
00:53:16,900 --> 00:53:18,580
and we can do it for, you know,

1442
00:53:18,580 --> 00:53:20,060
we can make a $20 app

1443
00:53:20,060 --> 00:53:23,180
instead of spending thousands of dollars on lesson.

1444
00:53:23,180 --> 00:53:25,580
Like, I mean, we can still spend thousands of dollars

1445
00:53:25,580 --> 00:53:29,100
on lessons, but this would be a nice supplementary

1446
00:53:29,100 --> 00:53:30,420
teaching tool.

1447
00:53:30,420 --> 00:53:31,340
Anyway.

1448
00:53:31,340 --> 00:53:32,180
- Totally.

1449
00:53:32,180 --> 00:53:34,300
- Long story short, I ended up spending like 20

1450
00:53:34,300 --> 00:53:36,700
or $30,000 trying to like get this developed.

1451
00:53:36,700 --> 00:53:38,940
(laughing)

1452
00:53:39,780 --> 00:53:41,980
- Was this on Fiverr or something?

1453
00:53:41,980 --> 00:53:43,900
- Well, no, I found these guys.

1454
00:53:43,900 --> 00:53:45,740
- Oh no.

1455
00:53:45,740 --> 00:53:48,260
- I just found this dev shop that was working on it

1456
00:53:48,260 --> 00:53:49,940
for a while and then they weren't working out.

1457
00:53:49,940 --> 00:53:53,980
And so I like fired them and found a local like Unity dev.

1458
00:53:53,980 --> 00:53:57,580
And like, I could, I probably, like I've never done Unity

1459
00:53:57,580 --> 00:54:00,580
and I just felt like I didn't want to go figure it out.

1460
00:54:00,580 --> 00:54:03,780
And so I just wanted to hire somebody in retrospect.

1461
00:54:03,780 --> 00:54:05,500
Like if I was serious about doing it

1462
00:54:05,500 --> 00:54:07,980
instead of paying money, I should have just done it myself.

1463
00:54:07,980 --> 00:54:10,620
'Cause then I could get it done the way I wanted to.

1464
00:54:10,620 --> 00:54:13,220
But I just don't have the time to like, anyway.

1465
00:54:13,220 --> 00:54:17,100
And the intersection of like people who have VR headsets

1466
00:54:17,100 --> 00:54:19,940
that want to teach their kids tennis, it's kind of,

1467
00:54:19,940 --> 00:54:20,780
it's a tight like--

1468
00:54:20,780 --> 00:54:22,620
- I love niche markets.

1469
00:54:22,620 --> 00:54:24,500
- It's very, I think it's too niche.

1470
00:54:24,500 --> 00:54:28,500
So I kind of decided I'm going to put this one on hold.

1471
00:54:28,500 --> 00:54:30,580
I'm going to give this one away to you guys

1472
00:54:30,580 --> 00:54:32,100
so that you can work on it.

1473
00:54:32,100 --> 00:54:34,940
But I will be your first customer and I will pay

1474
00:54:34,940 --> 00:54:37,100
maybe not thousands, but like I'll pay a lot.

1475
00:54:37,100 --> 00:54:38,820
- I will pay $30 for that.

1476
00:54:38,820 --> 00:54:42,580
- We have a friend, the three of us, a good guy friend

1477
00:54:42,580 --> 00:54:46,660
who swears that his Quest 1 back way back when,

1478
00:54:46,660 --> 00:54:49,900
when that was first released, improved his golf game a lot.

1479
00:54:49,900 --> 00:54:52,220
He got one of the pro training golf things

1480
00:54:52,220 --> 00:54:53,580
and he played it quite a bit.

1481
00:54:53,580 --> 00:54:55,740
And he says that it was a night and day difference.

1482
00:54:55,740 --> 00:54:56,780
He loved it.

1483
00:54:56,780 --> 00:54:58,460
And he loved it so much that he bought me

1484
00:54:58,460 --> 00:54:59,300
a copy of the golf game.

1485
00:54:59,300 --> 00:55:00,780
It's fun, I'm not a great golfer.

1486
00:55:00,780 --> 00:55:03,100
It's like, I don't know, it's like putt-putt or whatever,

1487
00:55:03,100 --> 00:55:06,180
but it's super cool that these technologies can do that.

1488
00:55:06,180 --> 00:55:07,700
- I think you're totally onto something.

1489
00:55:07,700 --> 00:55:10,540
- Yeah, I mean, I still think it's a super cool idea.

1490
00:55:10,540 --> 00:55:11,580
- It looks like there's one company

1491
00:55:11,580 --> 00:55:12,900
who's claiming to do this.

1492
00:55:12,900 --> 00:55:15,740
I don't know if it's, have you ever heard of ATP Tour?

1493
00:55:15,740 --> 00:55:17,700
Apparently this is, I'm kind of Googling on the fly

1494
00:55:17,700 --> 00:55:18,540
a little bit.

1495
00:55:18,540 --> 00:55:19,820
There might be something that's come out recently

1496
00:55:19,820 --> 00:55:20,660
that maybe does this now.

1497
00:55:20,660 --> 00:55:21,480
- That's his company, ATP Tour.

1498
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,740
- I don't know how good it is for like, yes, have you?

1499
00:55:24,740 --> 00:55:25,780
Yeah.

1500
00:55:25,780 --> 00:55:28,700
- There was a, there was somebody that had done

1501
00:55:28,700 --> 00:55:32,060
a very similar thing for hockey and they were,

1502
00:55:32,060 --> 00:55:33,140
oh, well, let's see.

1503
00:55:33,140 --> 00:55:34,620
No, it was, I think it was baseball.

1504
00:55:34,620 --> 00:55:36,740
Maybe they're doing, maybe they're doing hockey too,

1505
00:55:36,740 --> 00:55:38,900
but they had done baseball and they had done it really well,

1506
00:55:38,900 --> 00:55:41,020
but they did it at a high level where they were going after

1507
00:55:41,020 --> 00:55:43,460
like college, like athletes and stuff.

1508
00:55:43,460 --> 00:55:44,300
- That's what this looks like too.

1509
00:55:44,300 --> 00:55:46,060
- Yeah, and same with the tennis one.

1510
00:55:46,060 --> 00:55:49,140
They're going after like, like high level.

1511
00:55:49,140 --> 00:55:50,420
Whereas I want to go--

1512
00:55:50,420 --> 00:55:51,260
- Like Mario Kart.

1513
00:55:51,260 --> 00:55:52,080
- Very bottom.

1514
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:55,940
I want to do, yeah, I want to make it like super gamified.

1515
00:55:55,940 --> 00:55:57,980
I want it to be for like six year olds.

1516
00:55:57,980 --> 00:55:59,440
- That's great.

1517
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:02,340
- I'm very focused on all of these six year old products.

1518
00:56:03,460 --> 00:56:06,420
- There was a cool, a student I was working with,

1519
00:56:06,420 --> 00:56:09,500
his research project was, they were taking,

1520
00:56:09,500 --> 00:56:12,300
we'll use tennis as the example, professional athletes,

1521
00:56:12,300 --> 00:56:14,700
Serena Williams, they asked Serena Williams,

1522
00:56:14,700 --> 00:56:15,660
I'm just making this up.

1523
00:56:15,660 --> 00:56:18,500
Hey, can we put like different electrodes and whatever

1524
00:56:18,500 --> 00:56:19,820
on different muscles on your body

1525
00:56:19,820 --> 00:56:21,500
and then just watch you do some forehand

1526
00:56:21,500 --> 00:56:22,860
and backhand on here?

1527
00:56:22,860 --> 00:56:24,900
They gathered all that data and then they were able

1528
00:56:24,900 --> 00:56:27,620
to put the electrodes on someone trying to learn tennis

1529
00:56:27,620 --> 00:56:29,900
and be like, okay, this is what, you know,

1530
00:56:29,900 --> 00:56:33,540
we're able to see what Serena Williams was doing for this.

1531
00:56:33,540 --> 00:56:34,900
This is what you need to focus on

1532
00:56:34,900 --> 00:56:36,500
on your forehand going through.

1533
00:56:36,500 --> 00:56:39,020
Just a hundred percent data driven,

1534
00:56:39,020 --> 00:56:41,460
trying to improve people's games going at it.

1535
00:56:41,460 --> 00:56:42,620
I don't think you want to put electrodes

1536
00:56:42,620 --> 00:56:44,660
on your VR headset, but I think that'd be interesting.

1537
00:56:44,660 --> 00:56:45,860
- Do you know what would be even cooler?

1538
00:56:45,860 --> 00:56:47,940
Is if instead of showing you, okay,

1539
00:56:47,940 --> 00:56:50,380
this is the difference between you and Serena.

1540
00:56:50,380 --> 00:56:54,060
If they could somehow like stimulate your muscles--

1541
00:56:54,060 --> 00:56:55,100
- That's what I was going to say.

1542
00:56:55,100 --> 00:56:55,940
- Yeah.

1543
00:56:55,940 --> 00:56:57,780
- So that you actually did what Serena did

1544
00:56:57,780 --> 00:57:00,500
and it's like, oh, that's what it feels like.

1545
00:57:00,500 --> 00:57:02,780
- At this point in the swing, she's already moving.

1546
00:57:02,780 --> 00:57:04,060
Yeah, you should be, yeah.

1547
00:57:04,060 --> 00:57:05,860
- That's probably also 10 years away,

1548
00:57:05,860 --> 00:57:07,260
but that would be really cool.

1549
00:57:07,260 --> 00:57:08,500
- That would be nuts.

1550
00:57:08,500 --> 00:57:10,660
We'll circle back on that in a couple of years.

1551
00:57:10,660 --> 00:57:13,220
- You got like a robot exosuit.

1552
00:57:13,220 --> 00:57:14,580
You just relax all your muscles

1553
00:57:14,580 --> 00:57:16,380
and you're in a robot exoskeleton

1554
00:57:16,380 --> 00:57:18,820
and it pilots and puppets you around

1555
00:57:18,820 --> 00:57:20,740
so that you get the feeling of where you should be.

1556
00:57:20,740 --> 00:57:22,900
- That's exactly where my head went, Leo.

1557
00:57:22,900 --> 00:57:23,900
- Let's do that.

1558
00:57:23,900 --> 00:57:27,460
- I just slide into the suit and just--

1559
00:57:27,460 --> 00:57:30,180
- What would it be like to be Michael Phelps?

1560
00:57:30,180 --> 00:57:31,260
- It's that Rick and Morty.

1561
00:57:31,260 --> 00:57:32,940
You just, you wake up in the morning

1562
00:57:32,940 --> 00:57:33,980
and you have a six pack

1563
00:57:33,980 --> 00:57:36,460
'cause it's been exercising you all night long.

1564
00:57:36,460 --> 00:57:37,300
- Right.

1565
00:57:37,300 --> 00:57:38,140
- Dude.

1566
00:57:38,140 --> 00:57:38,960
- I think there's something though,

1567
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:40,180
muscle memory training, right?

1568
00:57:40,180 --> 00:57:41,340
That's really what it is.

1569
00:57:41,340 --> 00:57:42,940
It's like, how do you get the muscle memory

1570
00:57:42,940 --> 00:57:45,300
as fast as possible, right?

1571
00:57:45,300 --> 00:57:46,580
Wax on, wax off, dude.

1572
00:57:46,580 --> 00:57:49,380
Like, I mean, you can do military,

1573
00:57:49,380 --> 00:57:51,140
like here's the thing, Chase.

1574
00:57:51,140 --> 00:57:52,540
Here's how you make a ton of money.

1575
00:57:52,540 --> 00:57:53,940
You sell it to the military

1576
00:57:53,940 --> 00:57:56,260
and you train all these six year old soldiers, right?

1577
00:57:56,260 --> 00:57:58,180
They, oh my God.

1578
00:57:58,180 --> 00:57:59,220
- Dude, that's awful.

1579
00:57:59,220 --> 00:58:00,820
(laughing)

1580
00:58:00,820 --> 00:58:03,060
- I'm just, we're here for the capitalism, right?

1581
00:58:03,060 --> 00:58:03,900
No?

1582
00:58:03,900 --> 00:58:04,740
It's just--

1583
00:58:04,740 --> 00:58:05,560
(laughing)

1584
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:06,800
- As long as we make money.

1585
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,620
- Tennis, one way.

1586
00:58:09,620 --> 00:58:10,460
- I'm shaking my head.

1587
00:58:10,460 --> 00:58:11,300
- No.

1588
00:58:11,300 --> 00:58:12,120
(laughing)

1589
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:15,100
- My cool VR game just got bought by Raytheon.

1590
00:58:15,100 --> 00:58:17,340
(laughing)

1591
00:58:17,340 --> 00:58:19,260
- No, but I mean--

1592
00:58:19,260 --> 00:58:20,100
- Don't worry.

1593
00:58:20,100 --> 00:58:21,900
- Halliburton just put an offer in for my--

1594
00:58:21,900 --> 00:58:23,380
- Teach me how to fly an F-15 though.

1595
00:58:23,380 --> 00:58:24,620
Like, I'm all there.

1596
00:58:24,620 --> 00:58:26,860
Like, if the government wanted me to do some muscle memory

1597
00:58:26,860 --> 00:58:29,500
on like one of those fancy jets, like, all right,

1598
00:58:29,500 --> 00:58:32,740
I'll take the bait, you know?

1599
00:58:32,740 --> 00:58:33,580
(laughing)

1600
00:58:33,580 --> 00:58:35,060
- There you go.

1601
00:58:35,060 --> 00:58:36,620
- But no, I think you're like, yeah,

1602
00:58:36,620 --> 00:58:37,900
there's something about muscle memory,

1603
00:58:37,900 --> 00:58:40,380
making it a game, or maybe you don't even make it look

1604
00:58:40,380 --> 00:58:43,180
like they're playing tennis or golf or hockey.

1605
00:58:43,180 --> 00:58:46,140
All of a sudden they acquire these, like,

1606
00:58:46,140 --> 00:58:48,300
skills to be active in sports.

1607
00:58:48,300 --> 00:58:49,660
And all of a sudden they're playing baseball

1608
00:58:49,660 --> 00:58:53,540
and they're like, holy cow, I'm killing it, you know?

1609
00:58:53,540 --> 00:58:55,140
- I love products that trick you

1610
00:58:55,140 --> 00:58:57,020
into learning something, right?

1611
00:58:57,020 --> 00:58:57,860
- Mm-hmm.

1612
00:58:57,860 --> 00:58:58,700
- Yeah.

1613
00:58:58,700 --> 00:58:59,520
- Yeah.

1614
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:01,580
- Math Blaster, you guys ever play Math Blaster

1615
00:59:01,580 --> 00:59:02,420
when you were a kid?

1616
00:59:02,420 --> 00:59:03,540
- Oh, yeah. - Oh, hell yeah.

1617
00:59:03,540 --> 00:59:04,700
- That game was legit.

1618
00:59:04,700 --> 00:59:05,860
(laughing)

1619
00:59:05,860 --> 00:59:08,860
- So it reminds me of like, but for sports.

1620
00:59:08,860 --> 00:59:09,820
(laughing)

1621
00:59:09,820 --> 00:59:10,820
Not for math.

1622
00:59:10,820 --> 00:59:13,340
- Math Blaster but for sports is great

1623
00:59:13,340 --> 00:59:15,500
because I have a feeling that those

1624
00:59:15,500 --> 00:59:17,620
are diametrically opposed ideas.

1625
00:59:17,620 --> 00:59:18,460
- Chase, what did you call it?

1626
00:59:18,460 --> 00:59:21,060
What did you call your tennis trainer?

1627
00:59:21,060 --> 00:59:24,700
- I didn't have a, I bought the domain Level Zero Tennis.

1628
00:59:24,700 --> 00:59:28,000
But I didn't have, I didn't get far enough

1629
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,940
to like actually name it, like anything.

1630
00:59:30,940 --> 00:59:33,980
Yeah, I mean, I've got a prototype somewhere around.

1631
00:59:33,980 --> 00:59:34,940
- You bought the domain.

1632
00:59:34,940 --> 00:59:36,140
- The physics.

1633
00:59:36,140 --> 00:59:39,180
- Buying the domain is the first step in any project.

1634
00:59:39,180 --> 00:59:40,660
We are right there with you.

1635
00:59:40,660 --> 00:59:41,940
I've got like 50.

1636
00:59:41,940 --> 00:59:45,060
- Level Zero Tennis.

1637
00:59:45,060 --> 00:59:46,340
- That's great, yeah.

1638
00:59:46,340 --> 00:59:48,580
- Dude, like, Wii Tennis doesn't work, huh?

1639
00:59:48,580 --> 00:59:50,340
It does not work.

1640
00:59:50,340 --> 00:59:51,180
- Nope.

1641
00:59:51,180 --> 00:59:54,180
- No, 'cause like my kid can still go like this

1642
00:59:54,180 --> 00:59:55,980
and swing it like an idiot.

1643
00:59:55,980 --> 00:59:59,620
And it worked fine in Wii Tennis.

1644
00:59:59,620 --> 01:00:02,460
I need him to like actually learn how to swing the racket.

1645
01:00:02,460 --> 01:00:04,740
- Bowling, you could, like for bowling.

1646
01:00:04,740 --> 01:00:06,380
I'm just thinking, now thinking--

1647
01:00:06,380 --> 01:00:08,500
- There's a ton of applications for this.

1648
01:00:08,500 --> 01:00:09,340
This is cool.

1649
01:00:09,340 --> 01:00:12,540
- What is it, the, dude, have you seen like,

1650
01:00:12,540 --> 01:00:16,760
I think there's a lot of like weird niche Olympic sports

1651
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:21,600
that would like love to get more people into the game

1652
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:25,140
and just, or like, I feel like that you do this application,

1653
01:00:25,140 --> 01:00:28,160
if you could develop the apps really quickly

1654
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:32,320
or the muscle training, that like all these Olympic sports

1655
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:35,760
would love it because, okay, I have this conspiracy theory

1656
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:37,120
a little bit, not really conspiracy,

1657
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:38,640
but like there are a lot of people

1658
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:41,400
that are really good athletes in, let's say,

1659
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:45,000
track and long jump or something,

1660
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:47,440
but can never, will never be gold medalists,

1661
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:51,400
so they try this completely out there,

1662
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:54,580
like, have you seen like the horseback shooting?

1663
01:00:54,580 --> 01:00:56,240
Do you guys remember this, like crazy,

1664
01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:58,760
like you're like, how did this become an Olympic event?

1665
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:03,560
Like, I feel like you apply, like, okay,

1666
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:06,160
you're a great runner, we need you on horseback

1667
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:08,760
and shooting, right?

1668
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:10,520
Somehow that applies.

1669
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:13,000
And here, we're gonna put you in this VR headset

1670
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:16,760
and now we can get you from, you know, bronze medal

1671
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:19,320
because you're a great runner and it applies here

1672
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:21,800
to gold medal in this event because of like

1673
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:23,360
the constant training that you do

1674
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:25,080
and you're not gonna fatigue your muscles,

1675
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:27,280
you're not gonna do the same type of stuff.

1676
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:30,840
Like, I see this being like a next stage

1677
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:34,360
of sports development, like, I don't know,

1678
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:36,320
there's like, especially when you don't have to actually

1679
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:40,060
do the work, like physically tire yourself maybe.

1680
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:43,400
I don't know.

1681
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:45,520
- I think at some point to be a world class Olympian,

1682
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:47,440
you probably have to start tiring your body

1683
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:48,280
a little bit here and there.

1684
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:49,120
- Not for no reason.

1685
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:51,560
- You're gonna train an Olympian who's not even trying.

1686
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:52,920
- Have you seen?

1687
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:54,560
- I've only done curling in VR,

1688
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:56,360
but I guess I'm a gold medalist now.

1689
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:58,560
(laughing)

1690
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:00,200
- This is how we're gonna train our future pilots,

1691
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:01,240
it's gonna be great.

1692
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:05,360
- Guys, it's not for the events that anybody really knows,

1693
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:07,680
it's for the events that are like, what?

1694
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:08,520
- The luge.

1695
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:10,160
- I mean. - The luge.

1696
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:12,440
- No one's ever watched the luge.

1697
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:14,440
- As Greg Geraldo said, you could be dead

1698
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:16,360
and be pretty good at the luge.

1699
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:17,560
You could be dead, right?

1700
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:19,720
- I like the idea of Netflix suggestions

1701
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:22,360
for alternative Olympic sports.

1702
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:23,640
I think that's great.

1703
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:27,120
- You keep trying in the 500 meter, but.

1704
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:29,480
- You're pretty good at running, but you might be great

1705
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:30,960
at these other sports.

1706
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:35,960
- There was a comedian whose name escapes me who said,

1707
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:39,440
I'm willing to bet the top 100 pole vaulters in the world

1708
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:40,640
are not aware of it.

1709
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:42,880
(laughing)

1710
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:47,480
- That's exact, yes.

1711
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:48,480
Oh my gosh.

1712
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:51,120
- Thanks so much for listening.

1713
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:52,080
We hope you enjoyed yourself.

1714
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:54,000
And thank you so much, Chase, you were amazing.

1715
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:54,840
That was wonderful.

1716
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:55,680
- Yeah, thanks for having me.

1717
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:56,640
I hope we can do it again.

1718
01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:58,080
- One more time.

1719
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:00,200
That's computerengineeringforbabies.com.

1720
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:02,240
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1721
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:06,600
that has a young child who is also a inclination

1722
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:07,640
to be a nerd.

1723
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:09,280
- You wanna plug anything, Chase?

1724
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:12,120
You wanna plug your next book or whatever too?

1725
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:14,360
Is your newsletter at your website?

1726
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:17,240
- That's just, yeah, I try to just send out an email

1727
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:20,440
once a month with, I don't know, whatever I'm working on,

1728
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:22,040
just to try to, I don't know.

1729
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:24,920
I try to make it entertaining 'cause people send out emails

1730
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:26,040
and it's like, buy our stuff.

1731
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:27,920
And I don't wanna send that out.

1732
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:30,160
I wanna send out something that at least is

1733
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:32,480
somewhat interesting, but also a reminder that like,

1734
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:34,360
hey, I'm still around.

1735
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:37,760
If you've got a baby shower or something coming up,

1736
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:39,240
it's a great gift. - Sure, totally.

1737
01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:40,080
- Anyway. - It really is.

1738
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:43,160
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1739
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:45,200
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1740
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:46,880
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1741
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:48,600
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1742
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:50,480
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1743
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:52,440
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1744
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1745
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:56,200
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1746
01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:57,040
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1748
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1749
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1757
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1758
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1759
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