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- I'm Scott.

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- I'm Russell.

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- I'm Leo.

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This is Spitball.

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Welcome to Spitball, where three binary bards

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and a guest empty their heads of tech startup

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and product ideas that we have stuck up in there

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so you can all have them for free.

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Anything that we say is yours to keep.

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And I believe Scott, you brought our guest this week, right?

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- I did.

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This week I brought Rebecca.

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Rebecca is a business development partner at my company

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and works with Robbie,

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who is our guest from a couple episodes ago.

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- All right.

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- Together they, yeah, recently started a venture capital

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group in the organization

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and they're all about fresh new ideas.

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- Well, if there are none that are worth developing here,

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you've come to the wrong place.

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(laughing)

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Welcome to Spitball, Rebecca.

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- Thank you.

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Thanks for having me.

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- It's gonna be great.

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All right.

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And this week we are gonna be playing a game

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that's a quick true or false one called Patently False.

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I have here a list of patents

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and you just have to tell me if I made them up

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or if they're actually from the US patent and trade office.

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It's gonna be easy.

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No problem.

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- Let's go.

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- And of course we got to start off every week

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as we do with Rebecca.

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Rebecca, let me tell you about,

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I'm gonna read the actual like claim

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or there's a section that's an abstract for the project

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or a claim.

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I've taken a little bit of liberty

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with making them not five paragraphs long,

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but tell me if you think this is real or not.

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The present invention provides a small umbrella

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or a quote beer brella,

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which may be removably attached to a beverage container

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in order to shave the beverage container

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from the direct rays of the sun.

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This is an apparatus that's a small umbrella,

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approximately five to seven inches in diameter.

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And it has spaces for suitable advertising

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and or logos that may be applied to the umbrella surface

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for promotional purposes.

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Is that something that I made up or is that real?

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- I feel like this is real.

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- That is real.

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I can't believe that.

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They'll grant a patent for anything.

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Scott, a device that projects

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a three dimensional hologram of a pet,

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which interacts with the user

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based off of movements and commands.

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It provides the companionship of a pet

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without any real world mess or responsibilities.

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And I may remind you that these are patents,

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not necessarily things that exist in the world,

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but is that a real thing or a thing that I made up?

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- I want this to be real.

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So I'm gonna say real.

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- I made that one up, I'm sorry.

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- Ah, he's such a Spitball ideas Leo.

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- We should just like troll them.

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- Just use all your ideas in this.

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- There's another podcast idea,

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which is just trolling and developing the patents

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that have all expired, man.

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'Cause there are so, every single one of these

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that are real have expired.

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- Next, Russell.

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There's not very many that are actively enforced

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when you just search for weird ideas over the years.

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Russell, an anti-eating face mask,

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which includes a cupped shape member

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conforming to the shape of the mouth

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and chin area of the user,

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together with a hoop member and straps

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that detach, they keep you from ingesting food.

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- It's a chastity belt for, yeah, it's real.

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- Can some guy just see "Silence of the Lambs"

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and be like, oh my God, what a great idea this could be.

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- I need that for cake.

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An apparatus for simulating a high five,

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including a lower arm portion

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having a simulated hand that was removably attached

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there too, an upper arm portion and an elbow joint

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for pivotally securing the lower portion

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to the upper arm portion, a spring bias element

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for biasing the upper and lower arm portions

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It is the high five simulator.

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like maybe accessories for amputees.

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Like I think this exists in some form.

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So yes, it's real.

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- It is real, but it's not anything noble or altruistic.

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and gives you high fives.

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that opens to allow the collection of dog waste during walks.

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This design includes a mechanism to seal the waste

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until it can be properly disposed of

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- I'm sorry, wait, back up for a second.

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You're saying that I can like click my shoes

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like James Bond and instead of a knife coming out,

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a pooper scooper slash bag that puts it back into the shoe?

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- There are no scooping mechanisms mentioned in this.

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- I love that's where your brain went.

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- I thought I heard retract in there or something.

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- Go gadget pooper scooper.

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with the poop under your shoe.

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It's a hollow compartment in your shoe for the poop.

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- Yeah, that's from my twisted and sick mind.

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I'm sorry about that.

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- I'm still gonna pitch that idea next week though.

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- I shouldn't have elaborated.

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I should have just said you get what you get, sorry.

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Russell, furniture items that change shape

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and function based off of user needs.

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This includes a series of motors and adjustable parts,

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a sofa that can transform into a bed,

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a recliner or even a workout bench.

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- Yeah, I think this was filed by Optimus Prime.

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So absolutely, this is real.

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- I think that means Rebecca two

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and the other two won last time through here.

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Rebecca, a child delivery apparatus

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comprising of a centrifuge,

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a mechanism for supporting the centrifuge

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to allow rotational movement around a vertical axis

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and a mechanism for securing the patient's body

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to prevent displacement from the centrifugal forces

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- That pulls the child out of you by gravity?

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- There's like a man at the US Cabinet Office,

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a guy who actually filed for this.

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So it's gotta be real.

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It's totally real. - It's real.

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- It totally is.

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- It's a real one, I was cracking up.

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- That guy at the USPTO is like,

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99% of his job is like this variation of a toothbrush

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by corporations.

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And then, no, I get the baby out of you

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by spitting you really quick.

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- Granted, I can't believe,

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who's the guy granting that?

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- I mean, that's novel, I will give them that.

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- Nobody would have thought of that.

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- Yeah, exactly.

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- Scott, a paired shower head

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and matching audio-visual light box and speaker.

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This device uses a microcomputer

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to let you experience different weather conditions.

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Choose from settings like tropical rain,

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misty morning, or storm shower,

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complete with corresponding water temperatures,

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pressures, sounds, and visual effects

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to match the chosen weather.

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- I'm gonna say false, only 'cause of the weather in there.

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And this sounds like something, Leo,

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that you would either want to create

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or have created already.

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(laughing)

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- I did make that one up, but I haven't made this yet.

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I'll put that in the back pocket.

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- Oh, that sounds awesome.

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- Something that came to me in a dream, right?

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Lastly, Russell, a timepiece for monitoring

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and displaying the approximate time

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remaining in a user's life.

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A microprocessor monitors the passage of time.

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A resettable memory is connected to the processor

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for storing data representative of years, days,

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hours, minutes, and seconds.

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A display is connected to the microprocessor

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for displaying data stored in the memory.

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Buttons or switches are provided to enter

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and change the stored data so that the approximate time

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remaining in the user's life can be set by the user.

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- That's definitely-- - The death watch.

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- Thousand percent, yeah.

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- That's a real patent, yeah.

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- I've been to the website.

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There's a web app, you type in how old you are

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and how old you get up, yeah.

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- Would you want that on your wrist at all times?

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I don't know.

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That's pretty far going.

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- Yeah, I mean, what happens if you hit zero

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and you're still alive, you know?

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Just like, I wasted all my life and here it is,

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I'm at zero, I calculated wrong.

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- I imagine the actual implementation of this is like,

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you have to put in your diet and exercise

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and your BMI and all that, you know?

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- That makes sense.

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- Ominous. - Ominous.

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- So I believe with all three correct, Rebecca,

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you're this week's winner, well done.

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You won Spitball.

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- We did it, it's over.

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(laughing)

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- Cool, we're done?

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- We're done.

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See you next season, everybody.

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- All right, Leo, the man with the podcast voice,

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what is your idea of the day?

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- We all have podcast voice 'cause we're on a podcast.

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- Listen, the fans know what I'm talking about.

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The true listeners.

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- Thank you, I guess.

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- The true ballers, as we call them.

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- We don't get a lot of comments on here,

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but the ballers, yep.

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- All right, how many people on the show

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have heard of the Internet Archive, archive.org?

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- Yes.

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- So they make the Wayback Machine,

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so you can see what websites looked like back over time,

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but they also are a digital library

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with all kinds of amazing stuff,

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and they're one of the few nonprofits

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that I make sure to donate to every year.

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I really, really love what they do.

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They are in trouble because they're fighting

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a court case battle about scanning and distributing books

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that they didn't have publishers' permission

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to distribute, and they may not live for too much longer,

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which is too bad, 'cause they do some really cool stuff.

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I'm very nervous about their future,

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but I have an idea for something

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that can help get the word out about how they exist.

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The Internet Archive maintains many different repositories

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of, like, here's a bunch of books,

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and here is old software for the Commodore 64,

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and here is a collection of this, that, the other.

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One thing that they have is a huge live music library

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where actual, like, authorized, random fans of John Mayer

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or The Grateful Dead or whatever will go

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and set up nice audio equipment at concerts

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and record them and, like, put them up for free.

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There are thousands of hours of these recorded concerts

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that are not on Spotify or YouTube or whatever

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that are all on this Internet Archive site

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that are just freely available.

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You fire up the website, and you listen.

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They're available via torrent, or you upload a file,

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and it converts it to all kinds of different formats.

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It's so cool, and nobody freaking knows about it.

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So I'm here today, Sharks, to pitch

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they should just make a freaking streaming media app.

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I don't know if you guys would fire up

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a alternative to Spotify or whatever on your phones

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to listen to just live music archives, but I totally would,

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and the only way to listen to them right now

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is via a tab in your browser, and I think that's silly.

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So I'm asking for $5 million for 20% of my company.

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(laughing)

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Have you guys ever heard of this?

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Is this something that would be interesting to you?

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- Yes, I can download on my own phone?

314
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- Yeah, you can just get all the files.

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Just press a button, and you download the whole concert,

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bunch of WAV files or MP3s or whatever the uploader posts.

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- It's like bringing back Napster, but an app.

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- And, like, legal. (laughing)

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- And legal this time.

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Can I, like, play it in the background

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of, like, my YouTube videos and stuff

322
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and, like, or is that not allowed?

323
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- Ooh, that's a good question.

324
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Will YouTube flag that and pull it down as copyright?

325
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- Well, Content ID probably would.

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I know that I've helped manage YouTube channels before,

327
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and if a band is doing a cover of a song,

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that often will get flagged as,

329
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"Hey, you're doing a performance of Ed Sheeran's whatever,

330
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"and that is gonna send ad money to him now, sorry."

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So it's pretty loose about what is or is not flagged

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as someone else's content.

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- Okay.

334
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- I mean, this is a shoein' app.

335
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Like, easy.

336
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I'm surprised somebody hasn't created that already.

337
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- I think they have an API and stuff,

338
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so it should be technically possible.

339
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- Man.

340
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- And it's totally crowdsourced,

341
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where people are just uploading.

342
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- Yeah, yeah, you can go archive.org.

343
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- It's not illegal.

344
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- No. (laughing)

345
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Isn't that crazy?

346
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- I know, that's the part that I'm trying

347
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to wrap my head around right now.

348
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- I don't know, I mean, some venues disallow it

349
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and some artists disallow it,

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so it might be, like, only the artists

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that say it's okay for people to come and record,

352
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but I think if you, like, bring your iPhone

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into a whatever concert and you have

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a good microphone on it.

355
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- Oh, I guess it's--

356
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- Plugged in via the port, you could even just do that.

357
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- It's your content, I guess, huh?

358
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In a way.

359
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That's a gray area, right?

360
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- I think it's morally gray.

361
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Yeah.

362
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Obviously, there's a varying degree of quality, too.

363
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So, some of them sound better than others,

364
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but some of them are really, really good.

365
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- You just add a rating system in your app.

366
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- Yeah, they have, yeah.

367
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- Honestly, Napster did, though.

368
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- The Internet Archive has, like, the classic TV

369
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and the, I don't know, here's old cartoons from whenever.

370
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- This is awesome.

371
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I think one of the worst parts about a concert

372
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is everybody holding their phone up

373
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and trying to record the concert the whole time.

374
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- Totally.

375
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- And you're just looking at a crowd full of phones.

376
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It's like, let's get rid of that,

377
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and, you know, how about we archive the entire concert

378
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through one 360 camera, everybody go to this thing,

379
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and now we've solved, like, if you have your phone up,

380
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you look like an idiot because you just go to archive.is

381
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or whatever we call it,

382
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and now you can see the whole concert.

383
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You don't have to record it.

384
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Put your phones down, enjoy.

385
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That would be awesome.

386
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- I feel like if most people knew

387
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that the concert that they were at right now

388
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was available online somewhere,

389
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that they wouldn't bother recording it themselves.

390
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Like, it's gonna be better when I pull it up later anyway.

391
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- Right.

392
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- It's like taking videos of fireworks.

393
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Have you ever watched a video of fireworks that you took

394
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and been like, wow, I'm glad I did that?

395
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- Or, yeah, picture of the moon, yeah.

396
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- Yeah, that too, yeah.

397
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I don't know why, but everybody's like,

398
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whoa, full moon, check out this moon, it's so big,

399
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and you send a picture and you're like,

400
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I, you just gotta go outside.

401
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It's not gonna work.

402
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- It's just like a streetlight, a blurry streetlight.

403
00:14:13,500 --> 00:14:15,220
- No, that would be, I guess, like, how would I,

404
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I guess the streaming experience,

405
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I think it'd be cool knowing that my concert,

406
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the one that I attended was in this archive,

407
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and, like, listening back to it would be awesome.

408
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- Yeah, that's where I'm at.

409
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Everyone's got that one or several concerts

410
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that they're like, that was one of the greatest nights

411
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of my life, and I wanna go back

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and hear exactly that performance.

413
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- Yeah, and you could actually get agreements

414
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with artists or venues to hand out codes for that concert.

415
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People, depending on who downloads it

416
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or who searches it or enters the code,

417
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you could, you know, for five bucks, it's yours.

418
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- I went to a show that did that.

419
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It was a, this is gonna put me in a weird niche,

420
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it was a ukulelist.

421
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But I bought one at his merch table,

422
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they had, like, t-shirts and whatever else,

423
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and then one of the things was a flash drive,

424
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and on the flash drive was a code good

425
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for one redeemable download of the show that you went to.

426
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Then he said, you know, wait 48 hours,

427
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and you go here, and it'll have it.

428
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It's so cool.

429
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That needs to be more of a thing, for sure.

430
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And, like, I like the idea of decentralizing it, too.

431
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- That makes sense, Rebecca, like,

432
00:15:23,100 --> 00:15:25,540
why don't, why doesn't everybody do this?

433
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Like, everybody should be just selling their concert for,

434
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I mean, why not, five times the number of tickets,

435
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get some Ticketmaster out of it, you know?

436
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And make some direct cash, man, that's a no-brainer.

437
00:15:38,780 --> 00:15:40,580
- Do you guys prefer to listen to live albums

438
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when you're given the chance?

439
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Do you skip 'em, do you mix 'em in 50/50?

440
00:15:45,100 --> 00:15:47,020
- That's true. - Avoid 'em?

441
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I feel like, yeah.

442
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- I avoid them unless I've been to that concert.

443
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And then even if it's not the same one I went to,

444
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I'm still like, oh yeah, that was, I like that.

445
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- I think artists are worried about saturating the,

446
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and that might actually affect ticket sales, too,

447
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if they are putting all their live stuff up too much.

448
00:16:02,860 --> 00:16:04,620
- Oh. - Hmm.

449
00:16:04,620 --> 00:16:07,540
- Eh, they should figure that out, that's not their problem.

450
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(laughing)

451
00:16:08,540 --> 00:16:09,940
- I don't know, there's some pretty cool,

452
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like, unplugged concerts. - Yeah.

453
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- Like, I think of Kurt Cobain doing unplugged,

454
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and I don't know, I think that there is some sort of

455
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nostalgic piece to it.

456
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I would totally, I'd pay a ridiculous amount of money

457
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to be able to have that, I don't know,

458
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on a code or something where I could download it.

459
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- There are some exclusive songs, too,

460
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that like, only, they only do in concert,

461
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that you're like, that's the first time

462
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they played that song ever!

463
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And I was there, and I listened to it, right?

464
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And then now I can download it, or like,

465
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that'd be awesome.

466
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- That's pretty cool. - I think of that,

467
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Panic at the Dis, not Panic at the Disco,

468
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what is it, Streetlight Manifesto concert, Scott,

469
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our, one of our guests, Sam Zoe, played.

470
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He would've loved that download,

471
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'cause he played Streetlight for like,

472
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months after that concert.

473
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I think he crowd surfed, that's right!

474
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- He crowd surfed in that crowd, yep, I remember that.

475
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- Are you allowed to crowd surf as a member of the crowd?

476
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That feels wrong, you're not the band.

477
00:17:08,020 --> 00:17:11,180
- I just remember that, he's just not typically

478
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the person you would think of as crowd surfing in a concert,

479
00:17:14,260 --> 00:17:17,020
and he's being crowd surfed, and they're all pushing him,

480
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they're trying to throw him up on the stage,

481
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and like, this big security guard comes

482
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and grabs him out of the air and throws him down.

483
00:17:22,940 --> 00:17:25,100
- He's a tall guy, too, I don't know how he.

484
00:17:25,100 --> 00:17:28,620
- Calm, collected CEO getting tossed up on the stage.

485
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- Almost. - It's a good time, almost.

486
00:17:29,780 --> 00:17:32,740
- If you look, that concert that you all remember,

487
00:17:32,740 --> 00:17:35,340
listener, might be on archive.org,

488
00:17:35,340 --> 00:17:36,820
and while you're there, throw a few bucks their way.

489
00:17:36,820 --> 00:17:41,100
- Or, you can download the app called Leo,

490
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Leo, let's hear it, let's hear it, you know?

491
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You got the idea name. - Um.

492
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- Om. - Archivist.

493
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- Archivist? (laughing)

494
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I don't know, I panicked.

495
00:17:52,660 --> 00:17:54,340
- That's pretty good. - It's MikedUp.

496
00:17:54,340 --> 00:17:56,260
- Oh, that's good. - MikedUp.

497
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(imitating music)

498
00:17:57,420 --> 00:17:58,540
Spitball.show.

499
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(laughing)

500
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So you can download today.

501
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(upbeat music)

502
00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,980
- All right, Scott, you're up next.

503
00:18:07,980 --> 00:18:08,860
What do you got for us?

504
00:18:08,860 --> 00:18:11,500
- All right, I was thinking of ideas for this week,

505
00:18:11,500 --> 00:18:15,500
and I've come up with one that I'm calling Carl Dating,

506
00:18:15,500 --> 00:18:18,620
and this is gonna be a Russell's Love Corner.

507
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Cue the music.

508
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(imitating music)

509
00:18:22,300 --> 00:18:30,300
So, where this comes from is actually how I met my wife.

510
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We both met through online dating,

511
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and what we had both been dating for a while

512
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and not finding anything,

513
00:18:38,260 --> 00:18:40,780
and what made our first date unique

514
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was that we were going to meet up at a bar together,

515
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and as we're walking into the bar, we see each other,

516
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and then we also see a third party named Carl,

517
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and Carl just happened to be walking by

518
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and also happened to know both of us individually.

519
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Complete coincidence.

520
00:18:57,820 --> 00:19:00,860
I had run cross-country with him in high school,

521
00:19:00,860 --> 00:19:04,060
and Caroline currently works with him right now,

522
00:19:04,060 --> 00:19:07,140
and at the same time, both of us go, "Carl,"

523
00:19:07,140 --> 00:19:10,220
and then we look at each other and go, "You know Carl?"

524
00:19:10,220 --> 00:19:14,980
And, long story short, Carl crashed our first date

525
00:19:14,980 --> 00:19:17,500
and sat with us at the bar and pretty much acted

526
00:19:17,500 --> 00:19:21,820
as a mediator/hey, I know both of these people,

527
00:19:21,820 --> 00:19:23,900
and neither of them are serial killers.

528
00:19:23,900 --> 00:19:25,420
- Dual wingman.

529
00:19:25,420 --> 00:19:26,540
- Yeah, dual wingman.

530
00:19:26,540 --> 00:19:30,660
It was crazy and awesome, and now I'm married to my wife.

531
00:19:30,660 --> 00:19:31,500
- It works.

532
00:19:31,500 --> 00:19:32,540
- It works.

533
00:19:32,540 --> 00:19:35,500
So, anyway, I wanna create an app

534
00:19:35,500 --> 00:19:37,940
that is essentially Carl dating,

535
00:19:37,940 --> 00:19:39,980
where you have apps like Tinder and Bumble

536
00:19:39,980 --> 00:19:42,740
where they look at your friends on Facebook or whatever,

537
00:19:42,740 --> 00:19:45,100
and they actually remove you one or two degrees

538
00:19:45,100 --> 00:19:47,100
from anyone and one of your friends on there.

539
00:19:47,100 --> 00:19:48,220
They don't want you dating your friends

540
00:19:48,220 --> 00:19:49,980
or friends of friends.

541
00:19:49,980 --> 00:19:51,540
I wanna do the opposite of that.

542
00:19:51,540 --> 00:19:54,260
I wanna be like, "You've matched with this person.

543
00:19:54,260 --> 00:19:56,860
"Here is a mutual acquaintance between both of you.

544
00:19:56,860 --> 00:19:59,420
"You should reach out," or we could both request him

545
00:19:59,420 --> 00:20:02,780
to crash your first date or be a part of that.

546
00:20:02,780 --> 00:20:07,420
- I love this love corner idea.

547
00:20:07,420 --> 00:20:09,780
This is amazing.

548
00:20:09,780 --> 00:20:11,340
- Of course you do.

549
00:20:11,340 --> 00:20:15,420
- That is my, in a way, a dream of mine, Scott,

550
00:20:15,420 --> 00:20:19,540
to just wingman both sides of the table.

551
00:20:19,540 --> 00:20:20,980
Well, I think I would.

552
00:20:20,980 --> 00:20:22,020
I'd probably not be.

553
00:20:22,020 --> 00:20:25,900
I'd be rated low, but I'd be so excited.

554
00:20:25,900 --> 00:20:28,700
(laughing)

555
00:20:28,700 --> 00:20:30,580
- Three stars, wingman.

556
00:20:30,580 --> 00:20:32,620
- So, you wanna have a whole Uber ranking system

557
00:20:32,620 --> 00:20:34,260
for how good the wingman you are?

558
00:20:34,260 --> 00:20:35,100
That's fun.

559
00:20:35,100 --> 00:20:38,660
- If an app could just look at my friends list

560
00:20:38,660 --> 00:20:40,660
and my friends of friends list,

561
00:20:40,660 --> 00:20:41,500
and just be like--

562
00:20:41,500 --> 00:20:42,380
- Compare the two.

563
00:20:42,380 --> 00:20:44,340
- You know this person, and you know what?

564
00:20:44,340 --> 00:20:47,580
You know a friend that really needs to meet somebody.

565
00:20:47,580 --> 00:20:50,780
I could do it.

566
00:20:50,780 --> 00:20:51,700
I could wingman 'em.

567
00:20:51,700 --> 00:20:53,140
But it's, I guess it's a little weird

568
00:20:53,140 --> 00:20:55,220
if you're the facilitator.

569
00:20:55,220 --> 00:20:57,980
If Carl had set you both up, does that make it different?

570
00:20:57,980 --> 00:21:00,900
It was just a quinkydink, right?

571
00:21:00,900 --> 00:21:02,940
(laughing)

572
00:21:02,940 --> 00:21:05,140
But maybe that's part of the experience.

573
00:21:05,140 --> 00:21:07,500
He just, like, Carl could have just planned

574
00:21:07,500 --> 00:21:10,140
the whole date for you by accident.

575
00:21:10,140 --> 00:21:11,420
- Hey, I'm gonna be at our bar.

576
00:21:11,420 --> 00:21:14,220
Hey, you know, I'm gonna be at our bar too.

577
00:21:14,220 --> 00:21:15,100
- That's interesting.

578
00:21:15,100 --> 00:21:17,260
I'm not actually sure I would have gone on that date

579
00:21:17,260 --> 00:21:19,100
if Carl had been like,

580
00:21:19,100 --> 00:21:21,260
hey, I know one of my coworkers.

581
00:21:21,260 --> 00:21:22,540
You wanna come out and hang?

582
00:21:22,540 --> 00:21:23,860
- An ambush.

583
00:21:23,860 --> 00:21:25,540
- Versus at the same time,

584
00:21:25,540 --> 00:21:28,220
if I had been about to go on that date,

585
00:21:28,220 --> 00:21:30,420
and a notification popped up to be like,

586
00:21:30,420 --> 00:21:33,140
by the way, did you know that Carl,

587
00:21:33,140 --> 00:21:35,540
this Carl also is, you know,

588
00:21:35,540 --> 00:21:39,060
works with this person you're about to go on a date with?

589
00:21:39,060 --> 00:21:41,180
Even just that information alone right there

590
00:21:41,180 --> 00:21:43,180
would be enough to be like, you know, screw it.

591
00:21:43,180 --> 00:21:44,020
I'll invite Carl.

592
00:21:44,020 --> 00:21:44,860
I got nothing to lose here.

593
00:21:44,860 --> 00:21:45,700
Let's go.

594
00:21:45,700 --> 00:21:48,100
- Right, or you're just calling up Carl ahead of time.

595
00:21:48,100 --> 00:21:48,940
Like.

596
00:21:48,940 --> 00:21:54,140
- So wait, would you have to have both parties,

597
00:21:54,140 --> 00:21:56,580
so Carl plus the person you're gonna date,

598
00:21:56,580 --> 00:21:57,500
agree to the date?

599
00:21:57,500 --> 00:21:59,980
Like, are you swiping on both of them?

600
00:21:59,980 --> 00:22:01,780
- Carl, leave free Friday, please.

601
00:22:01,780 --> 00:22:03,860
That's a great question.

602
00:22:03,860 --> 00:22:04,700
I don't know.

603
00:22:04,700 --> 00:22:07,380
- And it's kind of like LinkedIn, right?

604
00:22:07,380 --> 00:22:09,860
Like when you have a request and it's like,

605
00:22:09,860 --> 00:22:10,940
oh, I know they know Russell,

606
00:22:10,940 --> 00:22:13,140
so they must not be a total creeper.

607
00:22:13,140 --> 00:22:14,460
And then you accept their--

608
00:22:14,460 --> 00:22:16,260
- Maybe that's the extent of it then.

609
00:22:16,260 --> 00:22:18,980
It's just, hey, this person knows this person.

610
00:22:18,980 --> 00:22:19,820
You could talk to them.

611
00:22:19,820 --> 00:22:21,100
They don't have to crash your date.

612
00:22:21,100 --> 00:22:23,380
You could just talk to Carl on the side and be like,

613
00:22:23,380 --> 00:22:24,500
what do you think of this person?

614
00:22:24,500 --> 00:22:25,820
Like, are they sane?

615
00:22:25,820 --> 00:22:26,660
- Yeah.

616
00:22:26,660 --> 00:22:27,660
- Carl has endorsed you.

617
00:22:27,660 --> 00:22:28,500
- Carl has endorsed you on LinkedIn.

618
00:22:28,500 --> 00:22:30,100
- But for the premium upgrade.

619
00:22:30,100 --> 00:22:30,940
- Yes, exactly.

620
00:22:30,940 --> 00:22:32,060
- Carl can come on the date.

621
00:22:32,060 --> 00:22:33,340
(laughing)

622
00:22:33,340 --> 00:22:35,420
- If you just told me free drinks at our bar.

623
00:22:35,420 --> 00:22:37,260
- Here's Carl's dietary restrictions.

624
00:22:37,260 --> 00:22:39,420
(laughing)

625
00:22:39,420 --> 00:22:42,380
Okay, what if it, I'm trying to think of like,

626
00:22:42,380 --> 00:22:45,900
what if I got a notification and it said,

627
00:22:45,900 --> 00:22:48,780
come to our bar right now and get a free drink?

628
00:22:48,780 --> 00:22:50,980
I'm like, okay, I don't know why.

629
00:22:50,980 --> 00:22:53,900
And then all of a sudden I'm at our bar and guess what?

630
00:22:53,900 --> 00:22:56,980
I see my friends in the room

631
00:22:56,980 --> 00:22:58,940
and they just happened to be talking to each other.

632
00:22:58,940 --> 00:23:01,740
And I'm like, oh, I didn't know you guys knew each other.

633
00:23:01,740 --> 00:23:04,580
Yeah, you know, like create like complete,

634
00:23:04,580 --> 00:23:05,940
I mean, it's a little harder.

635
00:23:05,940 --> 00:23:07,940
I think it's a little less feasible.

636
00:23:07,940 --> 00:23:09,540
- To create that organically.

637
00:23:09,540 --> 00:23:11,660
- But I mean, but like, I would be,

638
00:23:11,660 --> 00:23:14,100
I would definitely sign up knowing that I was gonna get,

639
00:23:14,100 --> 00:23:15,220
you know what would end up happening?

640
00:23:15,220 --> 00:23:17,260
I'd go to the bar, get my free drink

641
00:23:17,260 --> 00:23:18,460
and look for everybody I knew

642
00:23:18,460 --> 00:23:20,220
and try to talk to all of them.

643
00:23:20,220 --> 00:23:22,460
(laughing)

644
00:23:22,460 --> 00:23:25,100
Because of me.

645
00:23:25,100 --> 00:23:26,980
- That's exactly what you would do too.

646
00:23:26,980 --> 00:23:29,140
- Yeah, but okay, I get like,

647
00:23:29,140 --> 00:23:33,660
I think there's some really valuable like dating app concept

648
00:23:33,660 --> 00:23:38,100
of who is one of my, this dates connections that I know.

649
00:23:38,100 --> 00:23:41,060
Right, is that not revealed in any dating apps yet?

650
00:23:41,060 --> 00:23:42,900
I guess, I don't know.

651
00:23:42,900 --> 00:23:44,940
It seems like it should be, I think.

652
00:23:44,940 --> 00:23:48,140
- Maybe nowadays, back when we were online dating,

653
00:23:48,140 --> 00:23:49,740
they were very much like,

654
00:23:49,740 --> 00:23:51,220
no, we're not gonna show that information.

655
00:23:51,220 --> 00:23:53,260
People don't wanna know that information.

656
00:23:53,260 --> 00:23:55,540
- Seems like something Facebook would be poised to,

657
00:23:55,540 --> 00:23:56,860
didn't they have a brief moment

658
00:23:56,860 --> 00:23:58,900
where they dip their toes into Facebook dating?

659
00:23:58,900 --> 00:24:00,540
- Did they? - I think so.

660
00:24:00,540 --> 00:24:01,740
I think that's died now though.

661
00:24:01,740 --> 00:24:02,580
And I don't know if it ever did

662
00:24:02,580 --> 00:24:04,460
exactly what you're talking about here.

663
00:24:04,460 --> 00:24:05,500
It should have.

664
00:24:05,500 --> 00:24:06,780
- That's so cool.

665
00:24:06,780 --> 00:24:11,500
It just feels like, so when my, okay, sidebar maybe,

666
00:24:11,500 --> 00:24:15,500
but whenever one of my friends starts like dating somebody

667
00:24:15,500 --> 00:24:17,420
or is interested in somebody,

668
00:24:17,420 --> 00:24:19,660
you know, the first thing you do is Facebook stock

669
00:24:19,660 --> 00:24:23,180
the crap out of that person and see how you know them.

670
00:24:23,180 --> 00:24:24,420
And if they don't have an Instagram,

671
00:24:24,420 --> 00:24:27,260
you find their LinkedIn profile and you're like,

672
00:24:27,260 --> 00:24:31,780
dude, I can connect you to this person this way if you want.

673
00:24:31,780 --> 00:24:35,460
I think there's some value in the, I guess I--

674
00:24:35,460 --> 00:24:36,460
- The third party vouching for you.

675
00:24:36,460 --> 00:24:39,420
- Yes, a huge, a huge value.

676
00:24:39,420 --> 00:24:41,820
Like, especially if I saw the friends

677
00:24:41,820 --> 00:24:45,900
that were friends with them, I'd be like, ooh, or oh.

678
00:24:45,900 --> 00:24:48,220
(laughing)

679
00:24:48,220 --> 00:24:50,420
Oh, they're only friends with those people?

680
00:24:50,420 --> 00:24:52,700
I don't wanna talk to them, right?

681
00:24:52,700 --> 00:24:54,300
But-- - Sure.

682
00:24:54,300 --> 00:24:57,220
- Like, okay, Scott, like if you were on your dating app

683
00:24:57,220 --> 00:24:59,860
and you saw, let's say,

684
00:24:59,860 --> 00:25:03,980
let's say Caroline was a person that is not gonna,

685
00:25:03,980 --> 00:25:05,420
let's say there was somebody else, I don't--

686
00:25:05,420 --> 00:25:07,260
- You mean CJ?

687
00:25:07,260 --> 00:25:11,940
- Let's say your wife was on the app

688
00:25:11,940 --> 00:25:13,900
and you were definitely,

689
00:25:13,900 --> 00:25:15,820
you're definitely doing a super like,

690
00:25:15,820 --> 00:25:17,940
let's say, instead of a regular like,

691
00:25:17,940 --> 00:25:20,740
because of the connections with that person.

692
00:25:20,740 --> 00:25:23,780
What if this was like a play on a dating app

693
00:25:23,780 --> 00:25:27,900
where you're trying to date somebody for their connections

694
00:25:27,900 --> 00:25:29,020
or the other way around?

695
00:25:29,020 --> 00:25:30,100
(laughing)

696
00:25:30,100 --> 00:25:32,660
Not that, no, maybe not that, but more of,

697
00:25:32,660 --> 00:25:34,660
but like, maybe you're more interested in that person

698
00:25:34,660 --> 00:25:37,900
because who they associate with, you know?

699
00:25:37,900 --> 00:25:38,820
- Whoa.

700
00:25:38,820 --> 00:25:40,700
- And so maybe there's a little bit of that.

701
00:25:40,700 --> 00:25:42,740
And it's because you can maybe tell something

702
00:25:42,740 --> 00:25:44,620
about a person by who they hang out with

703
00:25:44,620 --> 00:25:45,980
and who they're surrounded by.

704
00:25:45,980 --> 00:25:47,920
And so I feel like there's some,

705
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:49,700
there's some maybe reason to not,

706
00:25:49,700 --> 00:25:51,060
I guess in the other way, it's like,

707
00:25:51,060 --> 00:25:53,440
maybe you're less likely to swipe right on somebody

708
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,420
that you're less interested in,

709
00:25:55,420 --> 00:25:57,680
but then you realize, oh, they hang out with these people?

710
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,420
Like, oh, I know those people and I like those people.

711
00:26:00,420 --> 00:26:03,020
So maybe they're like them, right?

712
00:26:03,020 --> 00:26:05,180
- Might literally be just LinkedIn dating

713
00:26:05,180 --> 00:26:07,020
then by the end of this.

714
00:26:07,020 --> 00:26:09,340
- Well, you could call it five friends

715
00:26:09,340 --> 00:26:11,100
'cause the saying is like, you're the average

716
00:26:11,100 --> 00:26:13,500
of the five people you spend the most time with, right?

717
00:26:13,500 --> 00:26:15,340
- Yes. - Ooh, that's a good one.

718
00:26:15,340 --> 00:26:16,180
- I've never heard that, that's great.

719
00:26:16,180 --> 00:26:18,700
- Yes, that's a, that's right.

720
00:26:18,700 --> 00:26:19,780
Who do I hang out?

721
00:26:19,780 --> 00:26:21,100
Do I hang out with you guys too much?

722
00:26:21,100 --> 00:26:22,260
Am I gonna, gotta go?

723
00:26:22,260 --> 00:26:23,300
(laughing)

724
00:26:23,300 --> 00:26:25,020
- I mean, we have a podcast.

725
00:26:25,020 --> 00:26:25,860
- Reassess that.

726
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,720
(laughing)

727
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:28,880
- Ah, good thing I'm not dating.

728
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,040
- I do my best to avoid you

729
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:31,920
other than when we're recording, yeah.

730
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,240
- No, that's so true though.

731
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,840
I think, all right, would you wanna be

732
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,840
on your friend's dating profile?

733
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,600
Let's say you had to like sign up for the app

734
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,840
and be the vouch or something.

735
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:45,400
- I would do that in a heartbeat.

736
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:46,240
- Totally. - I really would.

737
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:47,060
- That sounds so fun.

738
00:26:47,060 --> 00:26:48,040
- It does sound a lot of fun.

739
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:49,880
- And it would be two people that you know, that'd be great.

740
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:51,440
- Wait, Rebecca didn't nod

741
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,440
and she's the only girl in the room, so.

742
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:56,000
- No, I would totally do it

743
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,900
'cause I feel like the inverse is also true.

744
00:26:57,900 --> 00:27:00,740
Like there should totally be a feature like band booty

745
00:27:00,740 --> 00:27:02,660
where you know they're bad guys

746
00:27:02,660 --> 00:27:05,300
and you can alert other people or other friends.

747
00:27:05,300 --> 00:27:08,380
Like this person's a pathological liar,

748
00:27:08,380 --> 00:27:11,340
he'll ghost you or she, whomever.

749
00:27:11,340 --> 00:27:14,300
But you should have a feature where it's like,

750
00:27:14,300 --> 00:27:18,220
yes, I vet their thumbs up or no, definitely.

751
00:27:18,220 --> 00:27:20,300
It was the worst first date I've ever been on.

752
00:27:20,300 --> 00:27:22,020
And they go in the band booty.

753
00:27:22,020 --> 00:27:24,820
- The band booty section, I love it.

754
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,120
- That's its own dating app.

755
00:27:27,120 --> 00:27:29,440
- Band booty.

756
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,600
- An add on, it's a super feature to your dating apps.

757
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:36,400
- We got two ideas for next week now, this is great.

758
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,000
- But I think vouching for people or like,

759
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,040
oh, you know, what is it?

760
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:46,380
If I could swipe on maybe my friend's dislikes

761
00:27:46,380 --> 00:27:48,880
and then maybe re-vouch or something, I don't know.

762
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,720
That might be a stretch.

763
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:51,560
- Whoa.

764
00:27:52,060 --> 00:27:55,300
- Like I wonder if vetting the reverse way would be like,

765
00:27:55,300 --> 00:27:58,940
I can't believe you swiped right on this guy, he's great.

766
00:27:58,940 --> 00:28:03,940
Or this girl looks so cool, you should like her.

767
00:28:03,940 --> 00:28:07,980
But then maybe that just comes off as like,

768
00:28:07,980 --> 00:28:10,660
your mom trying to set you up with somebody.

769
00:28:10,660 --> 00:28:14,340
- Yeah, we are closing in a little bit

770
00:28:14,340 --> 00:28:16,500
on the friend of a friend market,

771
00:28:16,500 --> 00:28:19,620
the previously pitched dating app too, aren't we?

772
00:28:19,620 --> 00:28:21,020
Where you're kind of like.

773
00:28:21,020 --> 00:28:22,080
- I guess so.

774
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,240
- This could be a feature of friend of a friend.

775
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:25,880
- Yeah, all these.

776
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,060
- All dating apps end up being friend of a friend,

777
00:28:28,060 --> 00:28:29,180
that's what this is.

778
00:28:29,180 --> 00:28:32,260
- That's right, we're all making, yeah.

779
00:28:32,260 --> 00:28:37,140
It'll all blur into one dating hive mind, just.

780
00:28:37,140 --> 00:28:40,320
- Russell's hive mind.

781
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:41,440
- Oh, yikes.

782
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,040
What's the name of this app, Scotty?

783
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:44,280
- Rebecca named it.

784
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:45,240
- Band booty?

785
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:46,580
- Band booty.

786
00:28:46,580 --> 00:28:49,080
I was gonna call it Carl dating, but I like band booty.

787
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,540
- Oh man, band booty would be good for mine too.

788
00:28:51,540 --> 00:28:53,800
(laughing)

789
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,380
(upbeat music)

790
00:28:57,380 --> 00:29:02,000
- All right, Russell, what have you brought us this week?

791
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:06,020
- All right guys, this week, I really am sometimes

792
00:29:06,020 --> 00:29:08,500
getting like antsy being in the house a lot,

793
00:29:08,500 --> 00:29:10,540
or especially this winter.

794
00:29:10,540 --> 00:29:14,920
And I really want to do, I guess like,

795
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,900
have you guys had like a game show kick,

796
00:29:16,900 --> 00:29:19,020
where you're just watching a bunch of game show,

797
00:29:19,020 --> 00:29:20,800
television shows, I don't know.

798
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,780
- I went through a phase, oh man,

799
00:29:22,780 --> 00:29:25,780
like three years of high school, middle school era, yeah.

800
00:29:25,780 --> 00:29:29,200
- Well, I guess part of me wants to live that experience

801
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,160
without like having to, I guess like part of me

802
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,600
wants to like be on Family Feud,

803
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,740
or on, you know, Price is Right or something.

804
00:29:37,740 --> 00:29:42,620
And I guess this simple idea is game shows locally.

805
00:29:42,620 --> 00:29:46,260
So you just host local game shows,

806
00:29:46,260 --> 00:29:51,260
and partner with businesses, get giant groups,

807
00:29:51,260 --> 00:29:56,580
and maybe stream it on your local television station,

808
00:29:56,580 --> 00:30:01,540
you know, create some like really different kind of buzz

809
00:30:01,540 --> 00:30:05,560
about, I guess like community events,

810
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:09,020
and all the other things that happen.

811
00:30:09,020 --> 00:30:14,000
It just seems like a local game show type of experience

812
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,740
would be really interesting to me.

813
00:30:16,740 --> 00:30:18,380
- A lot of communities have bar trivia.

814
00:30:18,380 --> 00:30:21,060
How would this, what sorts of games are you thinking?

815
00:30:21,060 --> 00:30:26,020
- I guess I'm thinking of this like a full on studio.

816
00:30:26,020 --> 00:30:28,300
Like you go into a travel studio,

817
00:30:28,300 --> 00:30:32,720
where you go into a like a local college auditorium,

818
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,620
and you have the boards,

819
00:30:35,620 --> 00:30:38,280
you give out tons of gift cards and prizes.

820
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,220
There's that one game show, like one versus 100,

821
00:30:41,220 --> 00:30:42,260
where you do giant,

822
00:30:42,260 --> 00:30:46,900
like you try to engage the entire community or audience.

823
00:30:46,900 --> 00:30:49,260
And yeah, that's what I'm thinking.

824
00:30:49,260 --> 00:30:51,620
Like one versus, like, yeah, you know what I mean?

825
00:30:51,620 --> 00:30:53,460
Or deal or no deal or something.

826
00:30:53,460 --> 00:30:54,460
Well, that's kind of boring.

827
00:30:54,460 --> 00:30:55,420
I feel like in real life,

828
00:30:55,420 --> 00:30:57,900
there'd have to be more real life like games.

829
00:30:57,900 --> 00:30:59,940
- Dude, just make this a show where,

830
00:30:59,940 --> 00:31:02,300
okay, so you get an auditorium,

831
00:31:02,300 --> 00:31:04,300
you rent it out from your local community center

832
00:31:04,300 --> 00:31:05,360
or college, right?

833
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,460
You charge a cover at the door of like $10 a ticket

834
00:31:08,460 --> 00:31:11,260
to come in, and you don't have any contestants chosen.

835
00:31:11,260 --> 00:31:13,480
They're just randomly picked from the audience.

836
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,220
So it gives incentive for people to come

837
00:31:15,220 --> 00:31:17,260
and they can participate in the show.

838
00:31:17,260 --> 00:31:19,700
And then you just host the game show up front.

839
00:31:19,700 --> 00:31:20,740
Half the money goes to you,

840
00:31:20,740 --> 00:31:22,500
half the money goes towards the prize pool

841
00:31:22,500 --> 00:31:23,860
that you get at the door cover.

842
00:31:23,860 --> 00:31:26,140
- That's boom, monetization.

843
00:31:26,140 --> 00:31:27,420
- Oh, I would attend that.

844
00:31:27,420 --> 00:31:28,740
That would be so much fun.

845
00:31:28,740 --> 00:31:30,220
Just the chance that I get to go up there,

846
00:31:30,220 --> 00:31:32,780
and if not, I at least get to see my friends up there.

847
00:31:32,780 --> 00:31:33,820
- Family friendly.

848
00:31:33,820 --> 00:31:35,620
- Playing wheel of fortune or whatever.

849
00:31:35,620 --> 00:31:36,500
Yeah.

850
00:31:36,500 --> 00:31:39,020
- You've got to capture the crowd energy

851
00:31:39,020 --> 00:31:40,100
of the prizes, right?

852
00:31:40,100 --> 00:31:41,500
- Yes.

853
00:31:41,500 --> 00:31:42,380
Oh.

854
00:31:42,380 --> 00:31:45,660
- Screaming, trying to get onto the show itself.

855
00:31:45,660 --> 00:31:47,740
I feel like half of that show is just like the excitement

856
00:31:47,740 --> 00:31:49,620
of watching people lose their mind

857
00:31:49,620 --> 00:31:51,260
with their matching shirts,

858
00:31:51,260 --> 00:31:52,820
trying to get actually on.

859
00:31:52,820 --> 00:31:55,660
- We always pick one guest that's the most enthusiastic

860
00:31:55,660 --> 00:31:57,260
from the audience, just randomly.

861
00:31:57,260 --> 00:31:58,180
There you go, right?

862
00:31:58,180 --> 00:32:02,200
Okay, then you throw in some local sponsorship opportunities.

863
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:06,940
I guess part of me thinks of,

864
00:32:06,940 --> 00:32:10,080
you know how bingo night at these old people homes

865
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:11,940
are like crazy?

866
00:32:11,940 --> 00:32:15,860
How do you make the fun version of that for young people?

867
00:32:15,860 --> 00:32:17,380
(laughing)

868
00:32:17,380 --> 00:32:18,780
- Can you define crazy?

869
00:32:18,780 --> 00:32:19,820
- I mean.

870
00:32:19,820 --> 00:32:20,740
- What does that mean?

871
00:32:20,740 --> 00:32:24,300
- How crazy, just use your imagination, Leo.

872
00:32:24,300 --> 00:32:25,140
These old.

873
00:32:25,140 --> 00:32:26,600
(laughing)

874
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:30,180
People are spending money on bingo with these,

875
00:32:30,180 --> 00:32:32,500
and they have their own like little systems,

876
00:32:32,500 --> 00:32:35,180
and they're buying eight bingo cards for a chance to win.

877
00:32:35,180 --> 00:32:38,060
Like it just seems like you could tap into that,

878
00:32:38,060 --> 00:32:39,860
make it more family friendly,

879
00:32:39,860 --> 00:32:42,540
create an event, and actually win some money.

880
00:32:42,540 --> 00:32:45,640
I don't know, it just seems like something different

881
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:49,900
from the typical entertainment that's out there.

882
00:32:49,900 --> 00:32:51,900
And if you make it community centric,

883
00:32:51,900 --> 00:32:53,360
or you partner with like,

884
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,900
you jump between town to town, right?

885
00:32:55,900 --> 00:32:58,920
And you just get the whole community excited about it.

886
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,300
What do they call those events?

887
00:33:02,300 --> 00:33:03,340
- The Chamber of Commerce.

888
00:33:03,340 --> 00:33:04,300
- Yes.

889
00:33:04,300 --> 00:33:06,060
There'd be just so much, if it happened,

890
00:33:06,060 --> 00:33:07,540
if you make it reoccurring,

891
00:33:07,540 --> 00:33:09,480
and you make it like an escape room experience,

892
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,100
it's not gonna be great.

893
00:33:11,100 --> 00:33:12,700
'Cause it's always there,

894
00:33:12,700 --> 00:33:14,300
the size is always gonna be too small.

895
00:33:14,300 --> 00:33:15,620
It's gotta be like--

896
00:33:15,620 --> 00:33:16,500
- One time thing.

897
00:33:16,500 --> 00:33:20,260
- Traveling Circus, a semi full of all the props

898
00:33:20,260 --> 00:33:22,820
for Price is Right, or Wheel of Fortune, or whatever.

899
00:33:22,820 --> 00:33:23,720
And they bring it in.

900
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,140
- Yeah, you get like political figures to talk

901
00:33:26,140 --> 00:33:28,320
in front of a whole crowd of people.

902
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,020
You just turn it into,

903
00:33:30,020 --> 00:33:33,660
and now everybody's campaign is around their game show event

904
00:33:33,660 --> 00:33:36,980
or whatever, like this is local politics,

905
00:33:36,980 --> 00:33:40,500
local community buzz.

906
00:33:40,500 --> 00:33:43,600
And you gotta get support from the downtown,

907
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:44,900
the chamber, that stuff.

908
00:33:44,900 --> 00:33:49,020
And then it makes it a really rememberable experience.

909
00:33:49,020 --> 00:33:53,740
And if it's like, the city of Detroit sponsored this event,

910
00:33:53,740 --> 00:33:55,880
maybe not Detroit, something like,

911
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:57,920
but you know what I mean, right?

912
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:02,420
There's like elements there that makes it really engaging

913
00:34:02,420 --> 00:34:05,140
for those types of non-profits and stuff.

914
00:34:05,140 --> 00:34:06,420
- You know what this could be?

915
00:34:06,420 --> 00:34:09,540
Our friend and former guest on the show, Steph,

916
00:34:09,540 --> 00:34:13,540
did the tryouts, I think it was down south of here

917
00:34:13,540 --> 00:34:15,060
somewhere, Kalamazoo or something,

918
00:34:15,060 --> 00:34:16,500
for the Wheel of Fortune.

919
00:34:16,500 --> 00:34:20,980
And they come to cities and set up the whole dang set

920
00:34:20,980 --> 00:34:21,820
and everything.

921
00:34:21,820 --> 00:34:23,940
And not only did they get like,

922
00:34:23,940 --> 00:34:25,620
do you know how to play this game well

923
00:34:25,620 --> 00:34:26,440
and that kind of thing,

924
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,240
but also like, what is your chemistry on the set?

925
00:34:29,240 --> 00:34:30,980
Are you engaged?

926
00:34:30,980 --> 00:34:32,460
Would you be a good contestant?

927
00:34:32,460 --> 00:34:35,780
It seems like you could combine franchising out

928
00:34:35,780 --> 00:34:39,900
popular game shows as a funnel for the actual

929
00:34:39,900 --> 00:34:43,900
nationwide game show being the finals, you know?

930
00:34:43,900 --> 00:34:47,020
So like, you get in touch with,

931
00:34:47,020 --> 00:34:48,340
I don't wanna use like Jeopardy,

932
00:34:48,340 --> 00:34:49,780
something a little more,

933
00:34:49,780 --> 00:34:53,860
what's a high octane game show

934
00:34:53,860 --> 00:34:55,220
that's like on the air right now?

935
00:34:55,220 --> 00:34:57,180
- Price is Right, I mean, is always.

936
00:34:57,180 --> 00:35:00,060
- Sure, so let's say you go to the Price is Right

937
00:35:00,060 --> 00:35:02,200
and you say, hey, I think it's CBS,

938
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:06,680
we want to make a traveling Price is Right, whatever.

939
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:11,680
And anyone who wins at this can then go to the season finale

940
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:15,160
to be on the show for the one that everyone sees.

941
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,760
Yeah, exactly, it's regionals.

942
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,060
- Dude, that generates a lot of like buzz too,

943
00:35:20,060 --> 00:35:22,200
like making more viewership on the show

944
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,440
because they just experienced it live.

945
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,480
Like there's, yeah.

946
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,960
- I'm way more interested in the Jeopardy's

947
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:29,800
and whatever of the world

948
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,000
when it's like the tournament finalists too.

949
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:33,720
If you as an entire, like,

950
00:35:33,720 --> 00:35:35,760
here's the three episodes of all of the people

951
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,320
who've already won this facing off

952
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,600
at the showcase showdown or whatever,

953
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,380
like that's really fun.

954
00:35:42,380 --> 00:35:44,320
- Dude, yeah, I like that a lot.

955
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:48,480
- The experts, the finalists, nationals.

956
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,320
- Like the worldwide Price is Right competition.

957
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:52,460
Like can you imagine?

958
00:35:52,460 --> 00:35:58,280
Yeah, or shoot, you could go as simple

959
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,160
as rock, paper, scissors, man.

960
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,560
States, finals.

961
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,360
- This person has won like 3000

962
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,360
rock, paper, scissors games in a row.

963
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:08,800
Statistically an anomaly,

964
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,520
but don't you wanna see him play his next game?

965
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:12,720
- That is a thing too.

966
00:36:12,720 --> 00:36:15,480
There is the National Rock, Paper, Scissors Championships,

967
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:16,520
the competition.

968
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:17,400
- I mean, there's got, like,

969
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,200
if you were to do that for the whole nation,

970
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,520
there would be one person, right?

971
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:22,360
That would-

972
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:23,960
- Who's just the best at it.

973
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,160
- That just would have done it like 3000 times.

974
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:28,400
I mean, I don't know.

975
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,080
- But I guess like if you wanted to go smaller too,

976
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:33,880
you could go to each high school,

977
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:35,440
you could do, you know,

978
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:36,800
kind of like the speaking,

979
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,200
the local speaking event routes,

980
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:43,240
but you do that as entertainment to each school

981
00:36:43,240 --> 00:36:46,400
in a school district, different types.

982
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,200
- I love that you can use like local businesses

983
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:49,480
as the prizes too.

984
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,440
Like, yeah, you can get, you know,

985
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,560
whatever voucher at this place,

986
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:54,680
if for the top winner there

987
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,100
and they'll donate the prizes or whatnot.

988
00:36:57,100 --> 00:36:58,800
And then as you just keep getting bigger

989
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,400
and keep expanding on that.

990
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:01,760
- In addition to the prizes being,

991
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:05,520
you get to go to the actual show on TV.

992
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:06,400
That's a cheap prize

993
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,320
because they have the filmings anyway, right?

994
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,480
Instead of just picking randos for it.

995
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:12,320
- They gotta earn it.

996
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,880
- Seems like it'd make their life easier too for casting.

997
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,080
If you can go to these actual game shows and say,

998
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,320
"We can guarantee you contestants who are enthusiastic

999
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,160
and good and play tested and whatever,"

1000
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,320
that might be better for everybody.

1001
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:25,160
- Dude, yeah.

1002
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:26,000
- That's good.

1003
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:26,840
- It might, and it'd be fun, like,

1004
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,120
you know, it's like a minor league baseball team.

1005
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:30,440
I feel like I wonder if there's like a way

1006
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,480
to make enough ticket sales

1007
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:38,320
or like fill arenas that are empty during non-seasonal.

1008
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:39,780
- The price is usually right.

1009
00:37:39,780 --> 00:37:42,400
(laughing)

1010
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,280
- Like, I mean, there's so many like churches

1011
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:46,600
that are empty during the week.

1012
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,140
Like you just throw a Friday night event or something.

1013
00:37:49,140 --> 00:37:50,400
I don't know if that's the,

1014
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,960
or like what is Van Andel Arena doing

1015
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:54,740
on a Tuesday afternoon?

1016
00:37:54,740 --> 00:37:59,240
Like, kids, people with families would go there

1017
00:37:59,240 --> 00:38:01,440
and do that stuff, I think, so maybe.

1018
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:02,280
- You need to attract more people

1019
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,720
if you had the Jeopardy's and the Price of Rights

1020
00:38:04,720 --> 00:38:05,960
and the Wheel of Fortunes.

1021
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:07,160
Who wants to be a millionaire?

1022
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:08,400
Everyone would do that.

1023
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,400
- Who wants to be a thousandaire?

1024
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,000
(laughing)

1025
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:12,840
- Who wants a thousand bucks?

1026
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:13,680
- The minor league.

1027
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,840
- Who wants a thousand bucks?

1028
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:17,000
(laughing)

1029
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,640
- In gift cards from your local pizza and--

1030
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,240
(laughing)

1031
00:38:21,240 --> 00:38:23,920
- Who wants a thousand bucks in gift cards?

1032
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:24,760
- I do.

1033
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:32,680
- All right, Rebecca, welcome and let's hear it.

1034
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,560
What's your Spitball idea of the day?

1035
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,640
- Okay, so I've always been really interested

1036
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:42,840
in like sensory substitution or sensory expansion.

1037
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:44,720
I came to the States when I was two

1038
00:38:44,720 --> 00:38:46,000
and I'm partially deaf,

1039
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,560
so I have a hearing aid in my right ear

1040
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,940
and it's not from the auditory nerve,

1041
00:38:50,940 --> 00:38:52,400
which means I don't have brain damage

1042
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:56,040
so I can still pick up sounds through vibration,

1043
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,240
but it just needs to be amplified.

1044
00:38:58,240 --> 00:38:59,920
It's basically a mechanical issue.

1045
00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:02,360
So my eardrum is static.

1046
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,360
Usually an eardrum is really dynamic

1047
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,240
and with sound waves, it flexes

1048
00:39:06,240 --> 00:39:09,880
and then translates those waves into sound in your brain.

1049
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,120
Mine's damaged so it doesn't actually flex.

1050
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,120
There's a lot of scar tissue on it

1051
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,720
and throughout the years, like hearing aids,

1052
00:39:16,720 --> 00:39:18,560
functionally, if I took it out right now,

1053
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,400
it almost looks like a little tiny satellite

1054
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,360
that can go right into the ear.

1055
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,360
So I take it out when I work out, I do hot yoga.

1056
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,160
So it's like, I feel like they're casing and everything

1057
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,920
and all of the little like electrical components

1058
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:32,520
are pretty delicate.

1059
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,800
And I was on a plane one time and I saw this guy,

1060
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,080
he had these totally encased silicone earphones

1061
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,840
that actually sat above his ears

1062
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,360
like a cochlear implant would.

1063
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,640
They're called shacks and they're like 200 bucks

1064
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,480
and they're waterproof

1065
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,560
and it seems like such a better feature

1066
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:52,520
for a hearing aid.

1067
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,520
So when I went to my audiologist, I was like,

1068
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,120
you have anything that's like a cochlear implant

1069
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,360
but it's like just single

1070
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,560
and I don't actually have to have a hole drilled in my head

1071
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,200
that I could use 'cause they,

1072
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,720
he let me try them on and they were awesome.

1073
00:40:05,720 --> 00:40:08,360
The sound came through really crisp and clear

1074
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,160
and I didn't have to like stick something in my ear

1075
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:11,680
and have it sit like on top.

1076
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:13,960
I wouldn't have to take it out when I exercise.

1077
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,480
It's like the shock absorbent properties

1078
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,800
of whatever the shacks were made out of

1079
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,360
plus it's totally encased in silicone.

1080
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:22,840
So it's basically waterproof.

1081
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:28,080
So what I was thinking is an actual hearing aid

1082
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,880
that's like a cochlear implant that sits above the ear

1083
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:35,360
instead of piping something directly into the ear canal

1084
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:41,600
and it's, yeah, more user-friendly for exercising.

1085
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,560
I think you could probably even swim in it.

1086
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:45,560
So.

1087
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:46,480
- Yeah, so most of the time,

1088
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:50,320
I have a pair of the Aftershocks, the running version.

1089
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:51,400
So they're not totally waterproof

1090
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,000
but they're sweatproof and stuff and they're great.

1091
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,400
I use them because they sit on top of my ear,

1092
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,320
like you said, and they're bone conducting

1093
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,440
and you don't have your ear occluded

1094
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:00,560
so you can still hear traffic.

1095
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:04,040
And when I'm commuting via bike or I ride a one wheel,

1096
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,520
they, I can still hear traffic and car horns

1097
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,440
and things around me without occluding,

1098
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,560
and blocking out the world.

1099
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,440
They're also great for like wearing around the office.

1100
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,320
You have your podcast or music in or whatever

1101
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,640
and if somebody says, "Hey, come here for a second,"

1102
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,920
that you can like still hear what's going on around you.

1103
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:20,920
They're great.

1104
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:22,000
They don't sound super great,

1105
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,280
but they'd be great for like an amplification

1106
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,160
of in-room audio for sure.

1107
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:27,960
- And you're saying that this doesn't exist

1108
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:29,960
as a hearing aid right now?

1109
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:31,680
That is crazy.

1110
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:35,080
- Your options for like, for the bone actually

1111
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,400
is for a cochlear implant.

1112
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:38,440
- That's it?

1113
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:39,920
That's ancient technology now, right?

1114
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:43,200
I feel like they've been doing that for like a long time.

1115
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,000
I guess it's like 2024.

1116
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,360
Like they haven't fixed that?

1117
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,800
- My thing is like, we can literally send shit

1118
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:53,280
to Mars and we can't come up with better things

1119
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:54,720
that like go on our bodies.

1120
00:41:54,720 --> 00:41:56,080
That it makes me feel crazy.

1121
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:57,600
- And the Aftershocks that I have,

1122
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:01,400
have a microphone in them for phone calls, for Bluetooth.

1123
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,120
But they just don't pipe the microphone that's in them

1124
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,960
into the speaker that's on them.

1125
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:07,960
- Wait, what?

1126
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:09,360
Like there's a separate microphone to it?

1127
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:10,800
- You're 99.9% of the way there.

1128
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:12,560
- Totally, I feel like you just do a steady change.

1129
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:13,400
- They're headphones?

1130
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:14,360
- Yeah.

1131
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:15,200
- Yeah.

1132
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:16,880
They're headphones that have a microphone

1133
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:18,040
so you can take a phone call, right?

1134
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,040
Like any, most Bluetooth headphones have.

1135
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,320
But there's no way to like turn on,

1136
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,240
make the microphone pick up what's in the room

1137
00:42:24,240 --> 00:42:26,960
and make that sound louder in the headphone.

1138
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,480
It only can pipe the sound to the phone call,

1139
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:30,720
to the phone, you know?

1140
00:42:30,720 --> 00:42:33,760
- No, no, I'm confused as to why this doesn't exist.

1141
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,240
This seems like very doable and clearly useful.

1142
00:42:37,240 --> 00:42:39,320
- Without Googling it, Aftershocks, I think,

1143
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,000
makes a version that's two independent ones too.

1144
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,560
So we're like 99.99% of the way there.

1145
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,600
- Do we just need to call their customer service line?

1146
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,160
- Should we not air this episode?

1147
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,760
Should we like just do this real quick?

1148
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,120
- Yeah.

1149
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:54,360
- So the other piece of it is too,

1150
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,240
if like for people who are profoundly deaf,

1151
00:42:56,240 --> 00:42:59,000
like I still have hearing in my left ear

1152
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,640
and I'm not profoundly deaf, just partially.

1153
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,520
I feel like there's options for vibrations

1154
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,320
to be able to be translated in different parts of your body.

1155
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,400
So maybe you can't, your auditory nerve is broken,

1156
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,680
but I've seen things like wristwatches

1157
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:14,240
or like whole chest pieces

1158
00:43:14,240 --> 00:43:16,480
that people put on like smaller children

1159
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,480
to translate sound waves or vibrations

1160
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,160
and correlate it to certain sounds,

1161
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,720
like certain pitches and the sound of a dog

1162
00:43:23,720 --> 00:43:27,960
that can help round out the way that you hear.

1163
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,120
'Cause your brain is just perceiving these sound waves.

1164
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:35,040
And so I feel like there's some kind of in-between there,

1165
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:38,560
between like an over-the-ear hearing aid

1166
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:40,480
and that vibrational piece

1167
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,840
that people are like strapping all over their body.

1168
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:46,120
But I don't know how any of the science pieces of it work,

1169
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:47,400
but.

1170
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,240
- Yeah, you just need an equalizer.

1171
00:43:49,240 --> 00:43:51,400
So you make your bass more loud

1172
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,800
if you can't pick that up naturally as well or vice versa.

1173
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,800
I think that most traditional

1174
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:02,120
hearing aids themselves do filter out.

1175
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,760
Like I know that my pair of,

1176
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:09,160
I think it's Pixel Buds or Sony earbuds or AirPods

1177
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:10,920
all have active noise canceling,

1178
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,400
where you can say only let the voices through,

1179
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,200
but the rest of the sound not.

1180
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,000
And AI is getting really, really good at real time,

1181
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:19,840
like only let certain frequencies through.

1182
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:21,560
So if you had a personalized profile

1183
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:24,840
of what frequencies you can and cannot pick up naturally,

1184
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,440
then you just boost what you're not able to pick up.

1185
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,920
And you like, it's your own real world EQ

1186
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:32,520
and you normalize it yourself.

1187
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:33,360
That's so good.

1188
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,840
- Can I tune out certain voices of certain people

1189
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:36,680
and just be like,

1190
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,480
I just don't wanna hear this person talk ever.

1191
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:40,840
(laughing)

1192
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,320
- I'm sorry, I can't hear you.

1193
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:44,160
- You're on mute, sorry.

1194
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:45,640
No, I put you on mute.

1195
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:46,840
You, person.

1196
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:47,840
- Real life mute.

1197
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,800
- Isn't there a black mirror about that?

1198
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:52,760
Somebody gets like shunned from society.

1199
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,320
So they're blacked out and you can't see or hear them.

1200
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:56,800
And they're just like a blur

1201
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,680
'cause they were committed to crime or something.

1202
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:00,680
- That's gonna be this show.

1203
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:01,520
- It's like that.

1204
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:02,880
- When we get famous,

1205
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:04,440
people are gonna be muting us.

1206
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,000
(laughing)

1207
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:06,840
- Full kids.

1208
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:07,680
- IRL blocked.

1209
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:08,520
(laughing)

1210
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,440
- I wanna, I guess like imagine,

1211
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,280
thinking of concerts, right?

1212
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:13,920
You can't, you wanna hear the concert,

1213
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:15,320
but you wanna talk to your friend

1214
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,240
and you don't wanna scream.

1215
00:45:17,240 --> 00:45:18,920
Like, or you're at a bar

1216
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:20,680
and now you're just, everybody's talking

1217
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,320
and now you can have a normal voice conversation

1218
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:24,720
and not yell at each other

1219
00:45:24,720 --> 00:45:26,680
because you have this like bone.

1220
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:28,520
You still have the bar experience with,

1221
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,920
but you can isolate voices or, yeah.

1222
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:35,880
Like it's maybe more magnify rather than like isolate

1223
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:37,480
'cause you still wanna hear the outside sound,

1224
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,040
but you wanna magnify in a specific voice.

1225
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:43,880
So aftershocks should just, or whatever,

1226
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:45,200
we create a version like this

1227
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:46,680
that's just like a setting

1228
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,240
that allows you to have normal conversation

1229
00:45:49,240 --> 00:45:51,840
with people in loud places.

1230
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:53,880
Simple, right?

1231
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:55,360
- Rebecca, this is one of those ideas

1232
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,480
that's making me angry that it's like,

1233
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:58,720
doesn't exist 'cause it's,

1234
00:45:58,720 --> 00:46:01,520
we're so close as a society.

1235
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,120
Aftershocks only makes the kind

1236
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:03,960
that you're talking about

1237
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:04,800
where they wrap all the way around.

1238
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:05,640
- Like two, right?

1239
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:06,480
- And it's one big wrap around here,

1240
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,840
but there is no one that I've seen that's two from them,

1241
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,680
but other brands have some like bone connecting ones.

1242
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:14,440
So basically you just wanna like

1243
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,520
take one of the two pair of earbuds that BoneConducts

1244
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,880
and stick it on the side that you are more deaf in

1245
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,880
and crank up the volume from the mic that's on it.

1246
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:23,720
Yeah, totally.

1247
00:46:23,720 --> 00:46:26,400
- And I feel like anything in age tech,

1248
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,800
most deaf patients are older.

1249
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,880
I feel like there's a silver tsunami coming

1250
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:32,720
and we have to figure some of this stuff out

1251
00:46:32,720 --> 00:46:35,120
and then people like me will benefit greatly.

1252
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:36,240
- Yeah. - Yeah.

1253
00:46:36,240 --> 00:46:39,320
- Hearing aids were recently opened up

1254
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,960
for over-the-counter administration,

1255
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,960
which hopefully will spur some innovation in this market

1256
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:46,320
because they've been restricted

1257
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,400
by you need to go to an audiologist,

1258
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,600
you need to have a prescription and stuff for decades.

1259
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,920
- What's crazy is it's not covered by insurance either.

1260
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:53,760
- What?

1261
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:55,040
- That's nuts. - Yeah, they're like four,

1262
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:56,840
four grand. - Man, this country sucks.

1263
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:58,240
- And they're not covered by insurance.

1264
00:46:58,240 --> 00:46:59,080
- Four grand? - Yeah.

1265
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:02,240
- Is that what you just said? - Yep, for one.

1266
00:47:02,240 --> 00:47:03,680
And it's not covered by insurance.

1267
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:05,000
- Man, how long do they last?

1268
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:08,400
- I mean, you can like 15 years, 10 years,

1269
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,920
but like the tech gets better all the time.

1270
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:14,160
- Wow, I guess like, is that its own insurance?

1271
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,040
It's like vision, maybe that's why.

1272
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,600
Like, I guess people are walking around blind all the time.

1273
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,000
I just don't understand why that's not covered by insurance.

1274
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:24,520
Like, it's okay if they're blind, you know,

1275
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:26,920
they gotta pay for vision insurance, not health.

1276
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:28,240
It's not for their health.

1277
00:47:28,240 --> 00:47:31,480
- Or dental, like, yeah, you're covered

1278
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,000
except for the teeth, like what?

1279
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:34,480
- That's not critical to your health.

1280
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,360
- How is that not health?

1281
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:37,560
This country makes no sense.

1282
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,760
Yeah, it sucks that they're $200

1283
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,920
for a really good pair of Bluetooth earbuds,

1284
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,600
which do a lot more than a hearing aid,

1285
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:49,320
but then a hearing aid unit itself is thousands and thousands.

1286
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:50,240
- Totally a racket.

1287
00:47:50,240 --> 00:47:51,640
- Hopefully that's being fixed soon.

1288
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:55,360
- Like my urgency here is I'm not getting more hearing.

1289
00:47:55,360 --> 00:48:00,360
So the deafer I get, so somebody out there listening,

1290
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,360
make me an on the bone hearing aid.

1291
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:04,520
- Mark, it's there.

1292
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:06,400
- You said that you do have a little bit of sensitivity

1293
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:07,240
in the one ear, right?

1294
00:48:07,240 --> 00:48:10,480
- On the right ear, partially, yeah.

1295
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,400
- Do you have, partially, okay.

1296
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,920
Have you ever tried putting in one Bluetooth earbud

1297
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:16,720
and just cranking up the pass through?

1298
00:48:16,720 --> 00:48:17,880
- No.

1299
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:18,720
- Really, really loud?

1300
00:48:18,720 --> 00:48:19,560
- No.

1301
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:21,320
- That'd be interesting to do as a little experiment.

1302
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:22,880
- Every noise though, right?

1303
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,560
- You can get, well, I mean like AirPods and Sony's,

1304
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:27,760
you can say only let voices through and stuff.

1305
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:29,520
So that would be an interesting thing.

1306
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:31,440
Everybody would be different listening to this.

1307
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,600
- Yeah, 'cause they tune them,

1308
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:35,160
like when you go to an audiologist

1309
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,480
based off of the frequencies that you can hear

1310
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,840
and lower sounds are much harder for me to hear.

1311
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:43,200
So they, like I'll take it out if I go to a concert

1312
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:47,600
or mine's tuned to pick up lower frequencies.

1313
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,080
So male voices, if I'm not like looking at you

1314
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:51,520
and kind of watching your mouth,

1315
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:53,320
I can miss like a third of a conversation.

1316
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:55,720
- Three white married 30-somethings on a podcast,

1317
00:48:55,720 --> 00:48:56,560
for example.

1318
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:57,600
(laughing)

1319
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:59,720
- Your pipe's like directly in, so.

1320
00:48:59,720 --> 00:49:02,160
- Wish you had to crank it up, guys, for us.

1321
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,400
(laughing)

1322
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,880
- Yeah, I feel like there's other applications too

1323
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,400
that it's not like, it's a benefit

1324
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,760
to those of hard of hearing, but like, I don't know.

1325
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,920
I wonder if the isolation thing is really important

1326
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:20,040
in other scenarios or I don't know.

1327
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,440
Like it just seems like there's a lot of other use cases

1328
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:24,840
and I'm curious what our listeners

1329
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,400
are gonna come up with, you know?

1330
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,080
- Yeah, like the bar scenario.

1331
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,880
I mean, even dinner in a restaurant,

1332
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,600
if you're in like a work event

1333
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:36,920
or any type of social gathering,

1334
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:38,560
there's like tons of ambient noise

1335
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:40,200
that's happening all the time.

1336
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,480
And there's like a buzz that's always there

1337
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,840
in the background and you have to really pick out tonalities

1338
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,800
so I feel like if that tech improved

1339
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:53,280
or became more accessible, it'd benefit multiple venues.

1340
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:54,120
- Yeah.

1341
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:57,520
- Actively canceling out just the TV at the bar

1342
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:00,840
or just the, yeah, the things you don't want.

1343
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,440
Man, I wish I could open an app and it would show me,

1344
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:04,800
here's the four different things

1345
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:05,960
that we're detecting around you

1346
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,320
that are the category of sound

1347
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:10,280
and which ones do you wanna just turn off?

1348
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:11,320
- TV at the bar.

1349
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:12,160
- You wanna prank?

1350
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,080
Crying baby.

1351
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:15,360
Yeah, cancel.

1352
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:16,200
- Yeah.

1353
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:17,280
- That would be incredible.

1354
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:18,120
- Yeah.

1355
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:20,120
- Or like a, yeah, like a concert again.

1356
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:23,400
You wanna listen to the band and not like, you know,

1357
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,600
the people or you wanna enhance the audio,

1358
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:28,400
get clear audio and...

1359
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:30,960
- But turn off the screaming drunk guy

1360
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:32,560
that's one row ahead of you.

1361
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:33,400
- Yes.

1362
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:34,240
- Who's singing along with it.

1363
00:50:34,240 --> 00:50:37,080
- Yeah, well, if it's on the bone,

1364
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:40,240
you'll be able to turn off, I think, as many voices, right?

1365
00:50:40,240 --> 00:50:42,760
You'd be only, well, I don't know, I guess.

1366
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:43,600
Oh, maybe you--

1367
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,760
- Whatever your input is, process the input

1368
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,320
and determine your output.

1369
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:52,840
- But the TV's at a bar, that was, yeah, Leo, like...

1370
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,760
All right, it's less weird, put something in your ear,

1371
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:57,800
but now I can listen to this, like,

1372
00:50:57,800 --> 00:50:59,680
yeah, this TV, that's great.

1373
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,800
- I've used active noise canceling headphones

1374
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,520
by in one form or another for many years,

1375
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:07,880
and it's still novel every time to turn on

1376
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,760
the noise canceling and have the sound

1377
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,080
where it just sort of turns off the,

1378
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:14,800
oh, I didn't even realize there was an air conditioner

1379
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:18,040
running in this room, but yeah, that's way better.

1380
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:19,320
Feels good.

1381
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:20,960
Every pair of active noise canceling headphones

1382
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:22,680
I've ever owned has a microphone on them

1383
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,560
because they have to, to like cancel out the wave

1384
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:28,240
of the sound that it's around.

1385
00:51:28,240 --> 00:51:31,280
Just fricking pipe that in, but louder,

1386
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:35,600
and boom, that is ear enhancement, dang.

1387
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:37,440
- Rebecca, you're saying there's devices

1388
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,680
that someone who can put like around their waist

1389
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:43,240
or something that is able to translate sounds

1390
00:51:43,240 --> 00:51:46,400
into vibrations, or like your wrist, you said?

1391
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,880
- So it gives like electromagnetic pulses,

1392
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:54,080
which that's all your brain is using to convert into sound,

1393
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:55,120
'cause your brain doesn't see,

1394
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:56,600
and your brain doesn't actually hear,

1395
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:58,880
just takes in these electromagnetic waves.

1396
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:02,160
So basically these devices, there's,

1397
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:05,760
I think the smaller, or like for children,

1398
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,760
it's an actual chest band, and then for adults,

1399
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,200
there's like a wristwatch, and it takes a little bit

1400
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:14,400
for your brain to be able to kind of learn

1401
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:19,400
how to hear through the pulses, but basically it'll,

1402
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,480
I don't know how they tune it,

1403
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,440
but then they have you wear this for a couple of days,

1404
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:29,200
and you're able to pick up like certain words

1405
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:31,360
because of the way that your brain is starting to train

1406
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:33,320
on the vibrations. - That's amazing.

1407
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,360
- And I mean, there's major implications

1408
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:39,040
for sensory like substitution or sensory expansion,

1409
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:42,560
like think, Google Lens even,

1410
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:46,120
or what were the glasses that came out?

1411
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:49,440
Yeah, totally, oh, like, oh, so it was at South by Southwest,

1412
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:52,160
and there's this VR set, and the only thing it plays

1413
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:54,480
is like these K-pop dancers who are coming

1414
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,720
like really close to you, and they're,

1415
00:52:56,720 --> 00:52:58,720
you know, there's like these dudes lined up

1416
00:52:58,720 --> 00:53:01,160
with these goggles, and they're like right in your face,

1417
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:03,840
and I'm like, this is what we've used the technology for.

1418
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,320
We can create an entire experience

1419
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:08,680
and like put people elsewhere,

1420
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:10,640
and this is what we chose to do?

1421
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:12,040
- K-pop. (laughs)

1422
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,960
- I know, I know, don't get me wrong, I like K-pop,

1423
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:18,960
but we're like so close in all these areas.

1424
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:22,720
They're so close to like really revolutionizing some things

1425
00:53:22,720 --> 00:53:26,120
for sensory expansion in a way that's helpful.

1426
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:29,040
- Sensory expansion, like can I like,

1427
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,360
so I'm really interested in how like dogs

1428
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:34,560
can smell an entire different world than humans.

1429
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:36,200
Not that I want to, but it's just like,

1430
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:38,280
they don't see as well, like you can't do that.

1431
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:40,280
You can't, can you train, like are there people

1432
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:43,120
trying to train people's noses to like,

1433
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:44,520
I don't know, pick up crazy stuff

1434
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:46,600
that maybe wouldn't be able to,

1435
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:47,880
it's just like the weirdest thing,

1436
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,920
'cause like there's no technology out there for smell,

1437
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:54,000
and I always am like trying to figure out how like--

1438
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:55,320
- I've wondered that too, actually.

1439
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,160
- There's an entire world that you can't see,

1440
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:01,120
feel, taste, process, even with technology.

1441
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:04,260
Like we have cameras, we have microphones,

1442
00:54:04,260 --> 00:54:07,560
we have, I'm sure, feeling technology,

1443
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,960
but you can't do smell yet, I think.

1444
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,920
- But I imagine it's just like if you could translate

1445
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:17,280
the what stimulates the olfactory nerve in your brain,

1446
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,080
right, like you, they could hack it,

1447
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,720
they could figure out like to just saturate you

1448
00:54:21,720 --> 00:54:25,000
with the most sumptuous smells based off of like

1449
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:28,240
triggering some like series of dots

1450
00:54:28,240 --> 00:54:29,960
in your olfactory system.

1451
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,800
- Send you some electrical pulses and boom, yeah.

1452
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:34,960
- And all of a sudden it activates a center of your brain.

1453
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:36,640
I mean, there's people like stroke victims

1454
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,200
who can speak other languages or all of a sudden

1455
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:41,520
have like cheese then associate,

1456
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:44,560
like the smell of cheese associates with like forest fires

1457
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:46,760
and things like that because the wires get crossed.

1458
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:49,920
I feel like even technologies like infrared

1459
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:54,000
or like night vision, I feel like we're one step off

1460
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:58,880
of being able to see like if someone was just sitting down

1461
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:02,080
in a seat, we can see like a heat print

1462
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,760
of where they were sitting based off like having goggles

1463
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:07,760
or something that allows us to see like a thumbprint

1464
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:09,720
on a mic and see who last touched it

1465
00:55:09,720 --> 00:55:12,120
because there's still a heat transfer on it.

1466
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,600
Like I think sensory expansion is like,

1467
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:18,200
we're so close to VR and like night vision goggles

1468
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:21,360
or stimulating the olfactory nerve.

1469
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:24,600
Like we're really close to this whole other world

1470
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:27,960
where like what if we could see the way that

1471
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:31,960
there's like animals that have such a larger spectrum

1472
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:34,680
of color that they're able to access

1473
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:36,920
and that's gotta be a center in the brain too, right?

1474
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:37,920
- Oh yeah.

1475
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:39,880
- And you're right, smell is one of the only senses

1476
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,720
we haven't really developed much augmented technology for.

1477
00:55:42,720 --> 00:55:44,160
- Could argue taste too, I guess,

1478
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:45,960
but it's kind of hand in hand with smell.

1479
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:46,800
- Yeah.

1480
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:47,640
- That's interesting.

1481
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:50,400
- I think just, yeah, it's kind of like bio training.

1482
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:52,680
It's like bio hacking, but with training.

1483
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:56,320
Like that is crazy.

1484
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:58,160
Can you imagine like 20 years from now

1485
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:00,720
and your kids are like, yeah, I smelled that.

1486
00:56:00,720 --> 00:56:02,960
What did you smell?

1487
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:03,800
(laughing)

1488
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:04,640
- Did you hear about that?

1489
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:06,800
There's a woman in the UK a couple of years ago

1490
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:11,680
who has some sort of, what's the word I'm looking for?

1491
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:14,840
Genetic mutation that lets her smell Parkinson's

1492
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:16,920
and scientists are totally baffled by that.

1493
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:17,800
What is that all about?

1494
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:20,300
Like once in a while, I guess a human comes along

1495
00:56:20,300 --> 00:56:24,280
that's inches closer toward some new unlocked realm

1496
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:26,480
of smell that we've never had before.

1497
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:28,520
- That's such a crazy mutation, that's awesome.

1498
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:29,800
- It just validated my idea.

1499
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:32,240
Rebecca, we got this.

1500
00:56:32,240 --> 00:56:33,280
Like it's gonna happen now.

1501
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:36,880
We just gotta start having people smell diseases

1502
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:38,680
and shocking them and that's it, right?

1503
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:40,320
Just a little bio shock.

1504
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:42,920
(laughing)

1505
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:44,160
Scott, you got a taser?

1506
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:45,160
Anybody got a taser?

1507
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:48,120
- Why me?

1508
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:49,960
- You're gonna be the, no, not you.

1509
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:52,720
- Who has to tase you until you can smell new smells?

1510
00:56:52,720 --> 00:56:57,200
- Oh God, I'm not tasing you, I need the taser.

1511
00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:00,560
- I need a research grant so I can just tase students

1512
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:02,640
and see if they smell new smells.

1513
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:04,600
- You need the real scientist.

1514
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:05,880
Nah, we got this.

1515
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:07,720
- Well, listener, whether you're listening

1516
00:57:07,720 --> 00:57:10,280
on your Smell-O-Vision in the year 2050

1517
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:13,360
or in a podcast app now, we thank you for listening

1518
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:16,320
and be grateful you can't smell us, I guess.

1519
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:18,320
We hope you enjoyed yourself.

1520
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:19,840
And thank you very much, Rebecca, for joining.

1521
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:20,880
That's such a fun idea.

1522
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:21,720
Thanks for being here.

1523
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:22,920
- Thank you.

1524
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:25,680
- Our website is Spitball.show.

1525
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:27,400
There you can find links to our YouTube channel,

1526
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:31,280
other social media, email us, feedbackpodcast@Spitball.show.

1527
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:33,200
We'd love to hear your ideas, comments,

1528
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:35,480
all the stuff about olfactory nerves

1529
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:36,520
that we didn't get right.

1530
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:37,840
We'd love to hear your corrections

1531
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:39,800
and/or expansions on these ideas.

1532
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:42,000
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1533
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,840
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1534
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1535
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1537
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1541
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1542
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