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- I'm Scott.

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- I'm Russell.

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- And I'm Leo.

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This is Spitball.

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Welcome to Spitball, the Pitchin' Kitchen,

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where three algorithm alchemists and a guest

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empty their heads of startup and tech product ideas

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that we have stuck up in there

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so you can all have them for free.

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Anything that we say is yours to keep.

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And this week, I've brought our guest,

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my mentor, my friend, known him for 10 years,

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our AVL expert, our rapper in a former life,

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and still maybe music producer, web developer,

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and everything in between.

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Welcome to my friend, Chris.

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Welcome to Spitball.

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- What's up?

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Thanks for having me.

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It's good to be here.

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- It's gonna be a good time.

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- Yeah. - Thanks for being here.

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- Yeah, I'm excited.

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- All right.

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And of course, as we always do,

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we gotta play something to get ourselves warmed up here.

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So this week, we're gonna be playing acquisition or fiction.

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I am, and always have been, a fan of weird company stories

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where they try to get into some new industry.

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Like, how does Michelin Tires end up also

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rating Michelin star restaurants?

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Or like, Guinness, the beer company,

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doing Guinness World Records or whatever, right?

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Samsung makes phones, but they also make

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like nuclear warships, why?

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That's insane to me.

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So, but, so this week, I'm gonna go through a list

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of true or false, did this or did this not happen,

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made up corporate mergers, a company that tried

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to buy another company and succeeded.

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True or false, we'll go down the lines,

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starting of course with our guest, Chris, please.

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In 2005 to 2009, is it true, yes or no,

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did eBay acquire Skype for $2.6 billion?

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Acquisition or fiction?

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- Acquisition.

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- You're absolutely right, yeah, they did.

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I didn't even know this, but yeah.

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- What? - Yeah.

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- They apparently owned it for like five years.

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It was a hot mess.

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- Yeah, but they don't own it anymore, right?

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- No, they sold it off to private equity

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and then eventually landed in Microsoft's lap.

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- Ah. - Swandered it

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and forced Teams on everyone instead.

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- Oh. (laughing)

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They just took the technology and rebranded it.

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- They had a 15 year headstart on Zoom

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and they still lost, it's baffling.

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- 2.8 billion? - True.

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- That's insane. - True.

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- Russell, acquisition or fiction?

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In 2015, Disney acquired Expedia Group,

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so Expedia, Hotels.com, et cetera,

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to push advertising for Walt Disney World,

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Disneyland Resorts, and Disney Cruises.

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- No, fiction.

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- You're absolutely right, that is fiction.

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Although, did you know that Expedia Group

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is kind of like the Match Group

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that owns like Tinder and Match.com and stuff?

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Expedia Group is Expedia, Hotels.com, VRBO,

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Travelocity, Hotwire, Orbitz, Triviag,

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all those companies are all one company.

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- There's only three companies in the world

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and that's it.

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- The moral of this game is that we're indebted

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to a world where there's two companies left in the world.

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Scotty, acquisition or fiction?

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Anheuser-Busch, maker of Budweiser and Bud Light,

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purchased the SeaWorld theme park chain

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- I want that to be true so bad, so yes, acquisition.

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- It is true. - Oh, awesome.

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- They owned them. - What?

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- I know, right?

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From 1989 to 2008 and then they eventually merged

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with another company, became the largest beer company

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in the world and sold it.

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- Wait. - Isn't that crazy?

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- Sold their SeaWorld asset.

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- Wait, so they bought it for over a billion in '89?

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so I don't even know if they made money over the thing,

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accounting for inflation.

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- That was probably just inflation.

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- Probably made free willy then.

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- We'll just get rid of it at cost, yeah, no kidding.

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All right, I think all three of you got that right.

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It's a one-on-one, next time around,

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we're entering our food round.

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Chris, acquisition or fiction?

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Coca-Cola acquired the movie studio Columbia Pictures

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in 1982 for 700 million.

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- Whoa, '82, fiction.

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- It's actually true.

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- Oh, no. - What?

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- They sold it to Sony only seven years later

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and kind of one of those first mergers

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where everyone was like, "Why are you doing this?

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This doesn't make any sense for you."

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And then they got rid of it.

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- They were probably trying to get the revenue

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from the soda sales at the movie theater.

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- I guess there's some synergy there, I don't know.

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- Yeah. - Russell.

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- Fiction or acquisition?

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Starbucks purchased the juice bar chain Jamba Juice

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in 2010 for 900 million,

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but it operates the two brands completely separately.

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- I mean, drink company, drink company, it's gotta be true.

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- I made that one up, I'm sorry.

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These are so believable.

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- I know. - So good.

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- So apparently Jamba Juice is still independent,

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but their parent company does own Cinnabon and Auntie Annie's

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and a few other things like that, or Auntie Anne's,

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all those. - Yeah.

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- Acquisition or fiction?

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There's a company called Restaurant Brands International,

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humdrum name.

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It's an American-Canadian multinational merger

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that was created when Burger King

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and Tim Hortons merged in 2014.

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- Oh, I have no idea on this, so I'm gonna say fiction.

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- That's true. - Oh, man.

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- In 2017, they got Popeyes too,

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but apparently it's this company of two companies.

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$12.5 billion merger.

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- Dang. - Wow.

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- So you could have a combo,

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Tim Hortons, Popeyes, Burger King in one shared space.

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American-Canadian pride right there.

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- Diversify, diversify.

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- Do you think they brought on a marketing consultant

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to name the thing Restaurant Brands International?

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That's the worst name I've ever heard in my life.

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- They paid $2 million to that.

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- Acquisition or fiction?

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Chris, Target acquires artisanal e-commerce platform

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Etsy in 2017 for $2.75 billion.

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- How much billion?

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- $2.75 billion.

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- Etsy? - Etsy, 2017.

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- Target owns Etsy?

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- Oh, man, I wouldn't have paid that much for it.

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- You just sweep $2.75 billion off your dresser.

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- I'll go, (laughing)

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I'll go with fiction.

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- Etsy. - That would be nuts.

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That seemed like Target would get into Etsy.

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that could vibe in the same like, I don't know,

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Burger King and Tim Hortons, Target demographic.

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Apparently they do have an Ireland-based

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tax dodging subsidiary company though

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that actually is where they're based out of.

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They actually do own a couple of other brands

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like Reverb, a used music store.

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- Oh, I'm on there all the time.

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I didn't know that was a thing.

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Russell, acquisition or fiction?

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Yahoo and AOL were both purchased by Verizon

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for $9 billion between 2015 and 2017

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- I think they bought them,

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but I don't think it was named Oath.

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- Well, acquisition or fiction?

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- I know Verizon bought Yahoo, I don't know about AOL.

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So that's where I'm gonna,

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I'm saying acquisition.

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- You're absolutely right, they did.

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- Oath only lasted for two years.

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It was called Verizon Media afterward,

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but then they sold it all off.

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And Tumblr was a part of that too.

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Verizon owned Tumblr for a minute.

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Last time, Scott, acquisition or fiction?

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Best Buy purchased the peer-to-peer music service

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Napster's name and combined it

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with their own service Rhapsody in 2011.

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- That's so crazy, that's believable.

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I think that's acquisition.

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- That's what happened to Napster.

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- Oh my God.

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- Best Buy owns Napster?

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- So they did own them.

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they started getting passed around and they sold it off.

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It was like a VR concert app for a hot minute.

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And now it's some music cryptocurrency thing.

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Unfortunately, Napster's dying a hard death.

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- Did they just bring on a bunch of lawsuits

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from that to themselves?

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I don't know how that would work.

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- I think it was just the name.

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I don't think it was anything else with a name.

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With our, I think, Chris,

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you were the only one who got all three right.

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You're our winner this week, congratulations.

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- No, I got the second one wrong, I thought.

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- Oh, you did?

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- Yeah. - Oh, shoot.

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- So then I guess you tied for Scotty.

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- All right.

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- A co-champions this week.

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- I should have just taken that.

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I just should have taken the W, honestly.

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- The listeners would have been hitting their radios.

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- Yeah.

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- No, it's wrong.

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- All right, Russell, you're up first.

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What do you got for us this week?

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- All right, so here's what's up.

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I travel a bunch and when I do,

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my wife sets up a fantastic itinerary for the town.

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Hit this up, you know, she watches the videos

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on those travel websites and all over YouTube.

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I remember when we went to San Diego,

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we watched like so many different videos about San Diego

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and where we're gonna go.

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And she ends up building this really robust itinerary,

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roughly, it's like a rough itinerary,

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just like our hot picks.

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And we'll have that for our whole,

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it takes a long time to build,

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but then whenever we have a friend that's like,

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oh, are you going to San Diego?

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Here's the Google Doc that Carrie created.

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You should take a look at this is what we did.

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Here's what we think if we were to,

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and then make some changes and recommendations, right?

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So it's kind of like Carrie becomes her own travel agent

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in a way because she's just making recommendations and stuff.

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So I thought, man, why don't we platformatize it, right?

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It turns out a lot of other people do this too.

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It's not just Carrie, but like everybody creates

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their own Google Sheet now with all that stuff.

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So why not host all that on a platform,

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share itineraries, right?

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And the better your itinerary, the more money you make.

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So for example, all the, yeah.

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So if you build your itinerary,

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you create referral codes, right?

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So now you partner with all these like Balboa Parks

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and these restaurants that you recommend on your itinerary.

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And your job is to make, let's say really good itinerary

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so that people click your referral links

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to schedule that reservation or to purchase the hotel

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that you recommend and all that stuff.

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So now everybody's incentivized

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to create a really good itinerary with links,

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get their commission, and now you've got like a full

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content generating money payback platform, right?

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- And you're building a catalog of vacations

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and how well they went and people can go on them

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and rate them, yeah.

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- People will keep it up to date, I love that.

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- It's very kind of like cut and dry.

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Like you drag and drop like your favorite places

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and yeah, you can even, if you wanna get really detailed,

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you can say, yeah, if you're doing three days,

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this is what I recommend.

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Or if you're going on a Monday, you can just go crazy on it.

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But yeah, short and sweet itineraries.

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Do you guys do it?

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Like do you guys build itinerary kind of things

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or Google Docs?

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Like I, you know, vet it a little bit.

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- Well, I've used kind of like,

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like TripIt is a really utilitarian thing

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where you like forward your hotel bookings

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and flight reservations and stuff.

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And it sort of organizes all that in one place for you.

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That works okay.

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And I know there's like Wanderlog

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and a few other things where you can build these itineraries.

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I've never seen the like social network-itized version

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where you can browse other people's and stuff.

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That's really cool.

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- Yeah, one of my people that I work

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at a co-working space with,

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they were sharing their trip to like South Africa.

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And it was like literally two weeks.

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Here are the five, like the 20 things that they did.

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And I'm like, can you just send that to me

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so I can have it in my Google Drive case?

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(laughing)

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- Totally.

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- Like somebody like really put a lot of effort into it.

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Right?

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And it just kind of goes,

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it kind of goes to waste after all that.

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I don't know.

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It just seems like it should be shared.

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- Yeah, and why reinvent the wheel, right?

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Starting from scratch, maybe you get like two or three

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and then you kind of put them all together, you know,

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and create your own.

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Like maybe there's that option

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where like you can drag and drop into your own list.

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And then, but the links,

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the referral links like transfer over as well.

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- Whoa.

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- That would be awesome.

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- Yeah, I bet like, you know,

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like the kid itinerary, right?

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Like, oh, I like these three itineraries,

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but I need the kid friendly version.

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So I made my kid friendly version.

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And now that's really popular

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because it's the kid friendly one, right?

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- Yeah.

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- Versus the dinks, you know, you got the dink version.

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You got the solo traveler version, right?

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And it's just, I don't know.

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It just seemed like it'd be cool to even just browse them,

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experience somebody else's itinerary.

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- Yeah.

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- You know, I don't know.

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- Live vicariously, see all their vacation pics.

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Yeah.

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- A little bit.

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- It's a good thing that like a trip advisor

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or something could sort of tack on

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to what they already do, you know?

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- Yeah.

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Another idea for that could be like,

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hey, we can go out to like one really nice meal, right?

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And like spend such and such money.

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So like, you'll go to the bougie lists

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that like rich people go to,

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and then you can just grab the one,

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like this is the one thing we're gonna do

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and splurge on kind of thing.

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- And if you're going into your profile

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on the site and saying like,

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I tend to prefer bougie stuff.

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I tend to do outdoorsy things.

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I tend to do technical marvels, whatever it is,

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you can kind of get the machine learning algorithm churning.

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- Yeah.

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- And do a quiz at the beginning.

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- These kinds of people like these sorts of things.

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Let me put these recommendations in front of them.

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- Yeah, like if I'm the outdoorsy type,

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where do I hike?

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Where do I go see the scenic views?

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You know, which trail kind of sucks, right?

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But then you end up going on like the trail app

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to find your best trails.

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And then you go to your restaurant app

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to find your best restaurants.

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And it just seems so much like,

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why do I have to go to Yelp, TripAdvisor,

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you know, trails.com or whatever it is.

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- I just got back from a conference in Chicago

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for a few days and opening Google Maps

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and typing the word food and just panning around,

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trying to like filter, they're not open right now.

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This one is 4.4 stars and that one's 4.6,

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but it has 800 reviews instead of 300.

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What does that even mean, right?

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- Right.

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- If you could like humanize this by saying,

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these three people that you know

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because they have similar interests as you,

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the travel blogger that you follow, the whatever,

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they recommend this place because of these reasons.

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That's way more of like a human recommendation.

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- Yeah, yep, I agree.

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- Travel bloggers would love this.

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They would post their itinerary up

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and now like you could get itinerary influencers,

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you know, making cash on the side.

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- Travel blog's a real thing, totally.

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Then you can like, sort of like when you have

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like a link tree type thing,

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but here is this trip itemized and itinerized, yeah.

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- And it could be also for like parks,

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like theme parks, you know, it's like where to stay,

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where's the cheapest, where's, yeah.

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Like what's got gluten free options,

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even things of that nature that like people are really,

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you know, maybe concerned about.

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I think that could be really cool too.

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- I didn't even think, yeah.

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Like just very, very niche, but people need to,

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like what's the gluten free trip in Disney?

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- Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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(laughing)

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- Around the world, gluten free.

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- I'm a vegan, where do I eat?

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- I think you're right, Russell,

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that people are already generating these things

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and they just are kind of living in silos somewhere.

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So if you can get this importing from Google Docs

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and or saved Google Maps lists

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and or my email, you know, booking confirmations and stuff,

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if you can somehow like suck up all that data,

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if people opt in, man.

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- Incentivize them and that's what Russell's doing,

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I love it.

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- Yeah.

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- Oh yeah.

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- Yeah.

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- They put it in themselves.

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- Right.

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- Or you say, hey person, specify that you're gluten free,

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that you're a medium budget, that you prefer outdoors.

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And then we'll pay you to suck up all of the places

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you've been from your, you know,

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your Google timeline or whatever.

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And then we just know.

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Hmm.

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- Snap.

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- Spooky.

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- You can take it to the next level.

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- I know, this gets sketchy really quick.

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- But if you could take it to the next level

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and then like, you know, 'cause you could go to Yelp

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and Google has its own thing,

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like as far as restaurant recommendations and stars

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and like combine them all into one as well.

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So it's like, I don't have to, you know,

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all I trust Yelp or all I trust this.

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I think that could be cool too.

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Like just bringing them all together.

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- Yeah.

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- Yeah, you wouldn't need those other apps in theory,

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right?

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You'd kind of be trusting your itinerary or.

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- The gurus.

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The gurus.

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- Yes, the gurus.

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- Right.

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- Having a human connection helps a lot

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with that recommendation.

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I wish I could open one app and see like,

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sort of like Rotten Tomatoes and IMDB scores

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and whatever all next to each other.

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Some like TV apps do that.

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It'd be cool if you could see,

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here's the Google Maps score and the Yelp score

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and the TripAdvisor score and the whatever all in your app

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next to, by the way, that vlogger you follow

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loves this place because of their breadsticks or whatever.

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- It was featured on Anthony Bourdain

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or something like that, you know.

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- Honestly, if it was featured on like Drivers Dining

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and Drives, I'm like there.

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- Yeah.

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- Just tell me, you know.

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- It's got the Flavortown seal.

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- I sat where Guy Fieri sat.

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- That's just one of the trip options.

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- The Flavortown itinerary in every city.

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That's a whole username, you know.

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- Dude, there's somebody who's cataloged

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every question ever asked on Jeopardy.

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There's gotta be somebody who's like cataloged

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every stop on Diners, Divers, Dives.

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- 100,000%.

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- The wiki, the Flavortown wiki.

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It's gotta be out there with an interactive map

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and everything, I'm sure.

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- Dude, like travel through the whole US

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like in one road trip, just RVing through

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Diners, Drivers, and Dives.

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- Now that's an itinerary I would look up on your app.

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(upbeat music)

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- All right, Scott, let's hear what you got this week.

510
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- Okay, I'm gonna follow a Leo on this one.

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Instead of cabinets except they're dishwashers,

512
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I want Theranos but for optometry.

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So I just had an eye doctor appointment

514
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and I always get really frustrated with them.

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Like I have to come back every year

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just for you to tell me the same shit again and again.

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It's just like they're looking at your eyes.

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It's one stationary spot.

519
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How hard would it be to just set up a box

520
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or basic camera system that can run through

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all the procedures that they do,

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use a basic AI script to look for,

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hey, I see an anomaly here, I see anomaly there,

524
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or just everything looks here,

525
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oh, you have astigmatism, blah, blah, blah.

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A camera could do all of this

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versus just a couple of mechanical guys

528
00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:25,720
that are switching lenses in the back.

529
00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:26,960
And then that's it.

530
00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:30,040
It spits out a prescription at the end and you're done.

531
00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:31,560
Yeah, that's the entire pitch.

532
00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:33,080
I just was very frustrated today

533
00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:34,200
and I'm like, I could automate this.

534
00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:35,680
- When you present in front of YC,

535
00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:39,880
I would maybe encourage you to not use the word Theranos.

536
00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:41,120
- Theranos, guys.

537
00:18:41,120 --> 00:18:44,840
- So I go to your website and I sign up

538
00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,760
for my virtual appointment a week from Tuesday

539
00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,040
and then it sends me a briefcase

540
00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:51,880
with your thing in the mail?

541
00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,160
- I don't even know if it would be that.

542
00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,520
Honestly, I was picturing this in like a,

543
00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:58,840
you just, I don't know, put this on a street corner,

544
00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,000
send this to like a third world country or something

545
00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:02,560
and be like, this is the box,

546
00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:04,080
this is now the optometry box.

547
00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:05,960
And maybe add an attachment on there

548
00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:07,920
that it can spit out lenses or something too

549
00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,840
if you don't, you know, some minor modifications.

550
00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:12,160
But it just has, yeah,

551
00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:13,680
a hundred different types of lenses on there.

552
00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:15,560
It spits out what you need for your left and right eye

553
00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:16,400
and you're done.

554
00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:17,640
- Dude, this is Redbox.

555
00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,200
- Redbox but for eyes, yes.

556
00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,160
That's the way to think about this.

557
00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,640
- Every Walgreens would buy this box, Scott.

558
00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:26,040
- That's what Theranos said.

559
00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,280
(laughing)

560
00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:31,960
They actually did too.

561
00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:33,480
- I believe it.

562
00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:35,800
You take one tear and you put it in a vial

563
00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:37,720
and it knows everything about you.

564
00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:41,480
In theory, you don't even need to have inventory on hand.

565
00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:42,680
You just send it in the mail.

566
00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:43,760
This is like--

567
00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,520
- Send it in the mail, use your webcam.

568
00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:49,280
- They do, what is it, orthodontics this way.

569
00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:50,120
- Really? - Yeah.

570
00:19:50,120 --> 00:19:50,960
- Right?

571
00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:52,080
Like don't you like Invisalign?

572
00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,320
Isn't that like a thing where you take an imprint

573
00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:57,160
of your teeth and you ship it in the mail?

574
00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:58,000
- Like the foam thing.

575
00:19:58,000 --> 00:19:59,520
- And they send you all the braces.

576
00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:01,000
- Yeah, like literally you don't need

577
00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:02,480
to see an orthodontist anymore.

578
00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,240
Invisalign or whatever, you take an imprint of your teeth

579
00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,560
and they ship you incremental, like invisible liners

580
00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:10,160
that move your teeth over time.

581
00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:11,880
And that's it, you're done.

582
00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:13,680
It just takes the imprint and moves.

583
00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:14,960
Like this is that, but--

584
00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:16,320
- But your eyes never get better.

585
00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,080
(laughing)

586
00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:19,880
- They just get worse.

587
00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:21,880
I mean, of all the medical things,

588
00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,200
I feel like eyes would be the easiest one

589
00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,760
to work with in something like this.

590
00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:28,000
- Obviously if there's something wrong,

591
00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:28,840
you go to a doctor.

592
00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:29,960
- Yeah, for sure, and it'll tell you.

593
00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:31,800
Like, "Hey, you should probably go to a doctor

594
00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,920
"for that thing in your eye there quickly."

595
00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:35,760
- I like it.

596
00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:37,000
- Dude, I get so many text messages

597
00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:38,880
from like RX Optical or whatever.

598
00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,320
Like, "It's your yearly appointment, don't forget."

599
00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:42,880
And I go every three years.

600
00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:43,720
(laughing)

601
00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,000
And I'm like, "Did my prescription change?

602
00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:47,200
"Did my eyes get any worse?"

603
00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:48,560
And they're like, "No, you're great."

604
00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,960
It's like, "Wow, I should have just waited another three."

605
00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:55,280
Like this is exactly, this is a health safety issue.

606
00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:56,120
I would do it every year

607
00:20:56,120 --> 00:20:57,920
if I could just roll up to a Redbox,

608
00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,360
throw on some, drop down my VR headset

609
00:21:00,360 --> 00:21:02,240
and does some scans and all that stuff.

610
00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:03,080
Like, why not?

611
00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:04,960
Like does the eye blowing thing.

612
00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:05,800
It just seems--

613
00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:07,720
- Right, they don't even do that anymore.

614
00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:08,680
I learned that today.

615
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:09,520
- Oh.

616
00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:10,800
- I don't wear corrective lenses yet,

617
00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:14,800
but I feel like if you've gone a couple of times

618
00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,520
and had prescriptions changed a couple of times,

619
00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,760
there's probably like a pattern there, right?

620
00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,360
Like why can't a vending machine see

621
00:21:20,360 --> 00:21:25,120
you've been 0.25, 0.25, 0.5, 0.5, 0.5, 0.75, 0.75.

622
00:21:25,120 --> 00:21:27,960
You're probably either gonna need 0.75 or one, right?

623
00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:29,400
Like, I don't know.

624
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:30,240
- We need an eye doctor.

625
00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:31,880
We need an eye doctor on the show.

626
00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:32,720
- Yes, yes.

627
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,760
I think another way that you can make it,

628
00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,800
like really pitch it so that that community,

629
00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,520
like optometrists and these opticals

630
00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,120
would be on board with it is like,

631
00:21:42,120 --> 00:21:44,520
hey, look, you're able to use,

632
00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,080
'cause you have to go like every 18 months, I think,

633
00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,440
before it expires, like your prescription,

634
00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,200
which is really frustrating, like you said,

635
00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,600
because your eyes haven't changed in three years

636
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,520
and you're like, oh, I'm paying for this.

637
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,640
But maybe you can go to the Bach up to three years

638
00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,720
and then you have to like go see an optometrist.

639
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:02,640
- It's the stopgap.

640
00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:03,880
- Right, right.

641
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,680
- I can renew my driver's license from Secretary of State

642
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,520
like every other time or something

643
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,240
and then I have to go in in person every once in a while.

644
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:11,200
- Right. - Oh, yeah.

645
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:12,040
- Yeah, something like that.

646
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:12,880
- That makes sense.

647
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:14,160
- And optometrists and ophthalmologists

648
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,520
would start to see only people,

649
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,560
or they'd see them more infrequently, less frequently,

650
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,880
but they'd also see like, hey, the Bach's told me

651
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:23,960
I might have a little bit of a cataract going on.

652
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:24,800
Can you confirm?

653
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,480
Like it'd actually be reasons to get them in the door

654
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,080
'cause nobody is happy in the day

655
00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:30,960
where you didn't need anything from me.

656
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:32,160
I don't know why you were here.

657
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:33,920
That's not good for them because they're busy.

658
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:35,460
It's not good for you 'cause you're busy.

659
00:22:35,460 --> 00:22:36,840
This would be better for everybody.

660
00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,200
- Yeah, I think people would get checked more often

661
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,440
if it was like, you know, cheap, easy, you know,

662
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,040
like I'm getting my eyes checked every year

663
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:45,880
instead of every three because, yeah,

664
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,420
the doctor forced me to, but I really don't have to go.

665
00:22:48,420 --> 00:22:51,320
But now I'm like going to the Red Box, the iBox,

666
00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,240
and checking every, why not?

667
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,360
I'm gonna wait in line for my prescription

668
00:22:56,360 --> 00:22:58,640
and get my eyes checked real quick, you know?

669
00:22:58,640 --> 00:22:59,800
Like literally just,

670
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:01,400
that's why they have the blood pressure machines

671
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:02,560
or whatever, right? - Yep.

672
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:04,200
- It's kind of similar, but.

673
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:08,940
- What's the Sam Altman crypto with the orb?

674
00:23:08,940 --> 00:23:11,240
World coin, do you guys know about world coin?

675
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:12,620
- World coin. - There's a,

676
00:23:12,620 --> 00:23:16,420
there's a cryptocurrency project by the CEO of OpenAI

677
00:23:16,420 --> 00:23:19,740
where you go to a place in the real world

678
00:23:19,740 --> 00:23:22,380
and you stare into a giant metal orb

679
00:23:22,380 --> 00:23:24,300
and it verifies that you're a human

680
00:23:24,300 --> 00:23:26,740
and it's supposed to be the basis for the,

681
00:23:26,740 --> 00:23:28,580
if I've been feeling these are gonna be available

682
00:23:28,580 --> 00:23:29,420
in the next couple of years,

683
00:23:29,420 --> 00:23:31,700
if you could, you know, pivot to having these orbs

684
00:23:31,700 --> 00:23:32,540
be the thing that check you,

685
00:23:32,540 --> 00:23:33,360
I think that's gonna be your ticket.

686
00:23:33,360 --> 00:23:34,560
- Get your prescription if you need.

687
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,580
(laughing)

688
00:23:36,580 --> 00:23:38,980
- Exactly, yeah, just stare into the orb

689
00:23:38,980 --> 00:23:41,460
and you get your lenses next day.

690
00:23:41,460 --> 00:23:42,620
Would you rather get your prescription

691
00:23:42,620 --> 00:23:45,700
from Redbox for glasses or orb?

692
00:23:45,700 --> 00:23:46,580
I know what I'd choose.

693
00:23:46,580 --> 00:23:48,040
- In order to get more buy-in,

694
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,620
because again, you might get pushback from that community,

695
00:23:51,620 --> 00:23:52,980
but if you could get them to buy into it,

696
00:23:52,980 --> 00:23:56,980
be like, yeah, if you have a monthly subscription to us,

697
00:23:56,980 --> 00:23:59,020
we'll put you at the top of the list

698
00:23:59,020 --> 00:24:01,660
as the optometrist that we recommend for them to go see.

699
00:24:01,660 --> 00:24:02,780
- The referrals. - Right?

700
00:24:02,780 --> 00:24:04,660
- Yeah. - The referrals.

701
00:24:04,660 --> 00:24:06,140
- You walk up to the thing and it says,

702
00:24:06,140 --> 00:24:09,300
hey, you need to get that diabetic retinopathy looked at,

703
00:24:09,300 --> 00:24:11,140
here's who we recommend, yeah.

704
00:24:11,140 --> 00:24:13,100
- Yeah, exactly.

705
00:24:13,100 --> 00:24:13,940
- Oh man.

706
00:24:13,940 --> 00:24:15,020
- It's a lead generator.

707
00:24:15,020 --> 00:24:17,100
- Yes, there you go. - Instead of a competitor.

708
00:24:17,100 --> 00:24:18,420
- Yes. - Yes.

709
00:24:18,420 --> 00:24:19,420
- Okay.

710
00:24:19,420 --> 00:24:22,080
- Referrals are a huge deal in the medical industry,

711
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:23,540
saying, hey, it's actually,

712
00:24:23,540 --> 00:24:25,300
you need to go see an ear, nose and throat guy about that,

713
00:24:25,300 --> 00:24:26,340
but here's who I recommend.

714
00:24:26,340 --> 00:24:28,980
They all make backroom deals for that kind of stuff.

715
00:24:28,980 --> 00:24:30,740
- Dude, the VCs that funded Theranos

716
00:24:30,740 --> 00:24:32,340
would jump on this so fast.

717
00:24:32,340 --> 00:24:33,620
So if you're listening,

718
00:24:33,620 --> 00:24:35,180
like we're here, we're ready

719
00:24:35,180 --> 00:24:37,620
for your first round investment.

720
00:24:37,620 --> 00:24:40,020
- But again, I really think you shouldn't use that word

721
00:24:40,020 --> 00:24:41,620
when you're in your pitch deck.

722
00:24:41,620 --> 00:24:43,380
(laughing)

723
00:24:43,380 --> 00:24:45,960
(upbeat music)

724
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:50,180
- All right, Leo, what do you got for us this week?

725
00:24:50,180 --> 00:24:51,420
- All right, I got a weird one for y'all,

726
00:24:51,420 --> 00:24:52,260
I hope you're ready.

727
00:24:52,260 --> 00:24:53,380
Planetariums.

728
00:24:53,380 --> 00:24:55,540
- I'm in. - They're fun, they're neat.

729
00:24:55,540 --> 00:24:58,060
You probably haven't been there since middle school.

730
00:24:58,060 --> 00:24:58,880
Why not?

731
00:24:58,880 --> 00:24:59,720
I don't know why.

732
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:01,100
It's the kind of thing that I feel like

733
00:25:01,100 --> 00:25:02,380
I would enjoy doing again,

734
00:25:02,380 --> 00:25:04,580
but I'm like a space enthusiast.

735
00:25:04,580 --> 00:25:06,860
It'd be kind of fun to go, but I just don't.

736
00:25:06,860 --> 00:25:08,180
We don't really have one near us,

737
00:25:08,180 --> 00:25:09,660
but even when there is one around,

738
00:25:09,660 --> 00:25:10,500
I look at that, I'm like,

739
00:25:10,500 --> 00:25:12,140
that's kind of, I can't believe that still exists.

740
00:25:12,140 --> 00:25:13,740
I have a 4K TV at home.

741
00:25:13,740 --> 00:25:14,580
You know what I mean?

742
00:25:14,580 --> 00:25:16,100
- It's 'cause they legalized weed, dude.

743
00:25:16,100 --> 00:25:18,360
(laughing)

744
00:25:18,360 --> 00:25:23,060
- I mean, if the Las Vegas Orb can succeed,

745
00:25:23,060 --> 00:25:25,700
maybe planetariums deserve their place coming back too.

746
00:25:25,700 --> 00:25:28,580
So I've got an idea for pumping up

747
00:25:28,580 --> 00:25:30,420
and bringing planetariums to the next level.

748
00:25:30,420 --> 00:25:31,620
You ready?

749
00:25:31,620 --> 00:25:32,460
- Let's hear it.

750
00:25:32,460 --> 00:25:33,300
- I'm so excited.

751
00:25:33,300 --> 00:25:35,860
- Instead of chairs that you have around there

752
00:25:35,860 --> 00:25:39,140
and the seating area at the base of the planetarium,

753
00:25:39,140 --> 00:25:41,620
giant donut shaped swimming pool.

754
00:25:41,620 --> 00:25:44,060
In the middle of that donut shape is the dry area

755
00:25:44,060 --> 00:25:46,900
where the projectors are and the lifeguards, I guess,

756
00:25:46,900 --> 00:25:48,580
and the equipment and project,

757
00:25:48,580 --> 00:25:50,900
all that stuff that you need to make it happen.

758
00:25:50,900 --> 00:25:52,460
You could float under the stars.

759
00:25:52,460 --> 00:25:54,900
You could have like movie nights.

760
00:25:54,900 --> 00:25:58,980
You could have light blue lagoon lights

761
00:25:58,980 --> 00:26:00,380
all throughout the pool.

762
00:26:00,380 --> 00:26:02,340
You could have the underwater speakers thing.

763
00:26:02,340 --> 00:26:04,540
So you just kind of float there amongst the stars.

764
00:26:04,540 --> 00:26:07,780
I had an experience growing up of being in a swimming pool

765
00:26:07,780 --> 00:26:09,560
in a place where there was no light pollution.

766
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,620
So you could look up and see like the Milky Way and stuff.

767
00:26:11,620 --> 00:26:14,220
Absolutely imaginable to float and see that.

768
00:26:14,220 --> 00:26:15,740
And it would be really cool if you could do that,

769
00:26:15,740 --> 00:26:19,500
but also flying through space in a saltwater pool.

770
00:26:19,500 --> 00:26:20,800
- Saltwater pool.

771
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:21,780
- Sure.

772
00:26:21,780 --> 00:26:22,820
That way you float better.

773
00:26:22,820 --> 00:26:25,300
- I'm speechless how much I want to do this.

774
00:26:25,300 --> 00:26:26,140
- Right?

775
00:26:26,140 --> 00:26:26,980
Does that sound amazing?

776
00:26:26,980 --> 00:26:30,540
- 80 degree, like bath water, super heavily salted.

777
00:26:30,540 --> 00:26:32,540
So you can just, you either have a inner tube

778
00:26:32,540 --> 00:26:33,940
or you're just floating there

779
00:26:33,940 --> 00:26:35,380
'cause the water's so dense.

780
00:26:35,380 --> 00:26:36,220
- Yeah.

781
00:26:36,220 --> 00:26:38,460
- Staring up at the stars or laser show

782
00:26:38,460 --> 00:26:39,580
or whatever the hell you want.

783
00:26:39,580 --> 00:26:41,100
- Latest Christopher Nolan flick.

784
00:26:41,100 --> 00:26:41,940
(laughing)

785
00:26:41,940 --> 00:26:42,780
- Oh my God.

786
00:26:42,780 --> 00:26:43,820
(laughing)

787
00:26:43,820 --> 00:26:45,540
Just put Dune II up there.

788
00:26:45,540 --> 00:26:47,880
(laughing)

789
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,180
- You could have the center have a bar.

790
00:26:50,180 --> 00:26:52,020
- Yeah, I was gonna say that.

791
00:26:52,020 --> 00:26:53,380
- A little swim up bar.

792
00:26:53,380 --> 00:26:55,860
You just paddle over, you know.

793
00:26:55,860 --> 00:26:56,900
- Yeah, we can make it cooler.

794
00:26:56,900 --> 00:26:59,740
Little RC boats will bring your cocktails out to you.

795
00:26:59,740 --> 00:27:01,900
- Oh yeah.

796
00:27:01,900 --> 00:27:02,740
I like that.

797
00:27:02,740 --> 00:27:03,940
(laughing)

798
00:27:03,940 --> 00:27:04,900
I want that job.

799
00:27:04,900 --> 00:27:05,740
There's gotta be.

800
00:27:05,740 --> 00:27:08,420
(laughing)

801
00:27:08,420 --> 00:27:10,260
- The boats are named after planets.

802
00:27:10,260 --> 00:27:12,740
(laughing)

803
00:27:12,740 --> 00:27:14,460
- There might be some moisture concerns,

804
00:27:14,460 --> 00:27:16,660
but I feel like there's at least one planetarium

805
00:27:16,660 --> 00:27:19,460
that's like derelict out there that could use this glow up.

806
00:27:19,460 --> 00:27:20,980
- That's a really good idea.

807
00:27:20,980 --> 00:27:24,720
- It'd be fun, like the solar eclipse just happened

808
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,460
and that would be awesome to be like,

809
00:27:26,460 --> 00:27:28,020
oh, I didn't see the solar eclipse,

810
00:27:28,020 --> 00:27:30,460
but I went to my local planetarium

811
00:27:30,460 --> 00:27:31,980
and swam in the pool for a couple hours

812
00:27:31,980 --> 00:27:34,020
and experienced basically the same thing.

813
00:27:34,020 --> 00:27:34,860
(laughing)

814
00:27:34,860 --> 00:27:36,100
You know, saw a live stream of it.

815
00:27:36,100 --> 00:27:37,140
It was great.

816
00:27:37,140 --> 00:27:37,980
- Yeah.

817
00:27:37,980 --> 00:27:38,800
- Honestly though?

818
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:39,640
- I mean, that'd be kind of,

819
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,180
I mean, there's a lot of,

820
00:27:41,180 --> 00:27:43,140
there was a lot of hype around that.

821
00:27:43,140 --> 00:27:45,060
So you're creating like,

822
00:27:45,060 --> 00:27:48,340
you're turning planetariums into an event space,

823
00:27:48,340 --> 00:27:50,740
not just a planetarium, right?

824
00:27:50,740 --> 00:27:52,700
Concerts, you know, you could,

825
00:27:52,700 --> 00:27:55,980
I mean, just blow it up a little bit to be weddings.

826
00:27:55,980 --> 00:27:57,420
Why stop there?

827
00:27:57,420 --> 00:27:58,900
Maybe they're doing that now, I don't know.

828
00:27:58,900 --> 00:28:01,740
But like planetarium, the event space,

829
00:28:01,740 --> 00:28:04,540
pool, hockey, you know, why not?

830
00:28:04,540 --> 00:28:06,380
Just anything, you know?

831
00:28:06,380 --> 00:28:08,220
Just special events.

832
00:28:08,220 --> 00:28:09,540
- Get married under the stars.

833
00:28:09,540 --> 00:28:13,420
- You'd have to upgrade like the whole visual experience

834
00:28:13,420 --> 00:28:16,300
'cause some of the last ones I've gone to with Nathaniel,

835
00:28:16,300 --> 00:28:17,140
- It's not good.

836
00:28:17,140 --> 00:28:18,220
- It's always like really dim.

837
00:28:18,220 --> 00:28:19,060
- Yeah?

838
00:28:19,060 --> 00:28:19,880
- Oh, really?

839
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:20,720
- Yeah, like.

840
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,740
- Haven't changed their bulb in several generations.

841
00:28:23,740 --> 00:28:25,420
- There's probably some old IMAX projectors

842
00:28:25,420 --> 00:28:28,020
you could scavenge out from somewhere.

843
00:28:28,020 --> 00:28:31,180
- I'm literally Googling planetariums for sale right now.

844
00:28:31,180 --> 00:28:33,220
(laughing)

845
00:28:33,220 --> 00:28:34,460
- How much does one of those run you?

846
00:28:34,460 --> 00:28:35,300
I don't really know.

847
00:28:35,300 --> 00:28:36,340
- One in Kentucky.

848
00:28:36,340 --> 00:28:38,180
- What's the going rate for a planetarium?

849
00:28:38,180 --> 00:28:39,340
- There's one in Kentucky?

850
00:28:39,340 --> 00:28:40,580
They're non-profits, right?

851
00:28:40,580 --> 00:28:42,020
So you can't really buy those, but.

852
00:28:42,020 --> 00:28:42,860
- Basically a museum.

853
00:28:42,860 --> 00:28:43,700
- Yeah.

854
00:28:43,700 --> 00:28:45,820
- They're usually in museums, aren't they?

855
00:28:45,820 --> 00:28:46,660
- Often.

856
00:28:46,660 --> 00:28:47,480
- Yeah.

857
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,420
- We had one that was part of like an art center in Flint

858
00:28:49,420 --> 00:28:50,980
on the other side of the state, yeah.

859
00:28:50,980 --> 00:28:53,180
- It might honestly be easier just to buy a pool

860
00:28:53,180 --> 00:28:54,780
and then put a dome on top of it.

861
00:28:54,780 --> 00:28:56,540
(laughing)

862
00:28:56,540 --> 00:28:57,900
And an IMAX projector.

863
00:28:57,900 --> 00:28:59,020
- Yeah, you're done.

864
00:28:59,020 --> 00:29:00,620
- Dude, why not just do that?

865
00:29:00,620 --> 00:29:01,460
- And a lot of salt.

866
00:29:01,460 --> 00:29:02,280
- Through the planetarium,

867
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:06,060
just build your own space experience huts, you know?

868
00:29:06,060 --> 00:29:06,900
- Ooh.

869
00:29:06,900 --> 00:29:07,720
- I mean.

870
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:08,560
- What's a space experience hut?

871
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:12,100
- A planetarium, but portable, but water.

872
00:29:12,100 --> 00:29:13,500
- Oh.

873
00:29:13,500 --> 00:29:15,340
Going along with the pitch a couple of times ago

874
00:29:15,340 --> 00:29:18,380
of the video game hangout trailer,

875
00:29:18,380 --> 00:29:20,700
you have like a portable planetarium.

876
00:29:20,700 --> 00:29:22,660
- Yeah, you get one of those giant tents

877
00:29:22,660 --> 00:29:24,100
that you fill with air, right?

878
00:29:24,100 --> 00:29:27,140
You know, they just fill up and you throw a projector on it.

879
00:29:27,140 --> 00:29:28,940
Now you go to any local pool,

880
00:29:28,940 --> 00:29:31,820
create the planetarium experience to go.

881
00:29:31,820 --> 00:29:32,660
- That's fun.

882
00:29:32,660 --> 00:29:34,860
So are these battery powered?

883
00:29:34,860 --> 00:29:35,900
Probably not solar.

884
00:29:35,900 --> 00:29:37,860
(laughing)

885
00:29:37,860 --> 00:29:38,980
- Diesel engine.

886
00:29:38,980 --> 00:29:41,220
(laughing)

887
00:29:41,220 --> 00:29:44,780
Gotta power the light bulbs somehow, you know?

888
00:29:44,780 --> 00:29:46,020
- Right.

889
00:29:46,020 --> 00:29:49,280
Shovel more coal, the earth needs to be seen.

890
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:50,220
That's fun.

891
00:29:50,220 --> 00:29:51,540
- Don't they have those giant, like,

892
00:29:51,540 --> 00:29:53,300
do you guys remember in,

893
00:29:53,300 --> 00:29:55,540
I don't remember if you guys had this experience

894
00:29:55,540 --> 00:29:56,940
of like second grade,

895
00:29:56,940 --> 00:30:00,380
where they would take a bunch of blankets and box fans

896
00:30:00,380 --> 00:30:02,660
and create this little, no?

897
00:30:02,660 --> 00:30:04,340
And like garbage bags.

898
00:30:04,340 --> 00:30:06,100
It was actually a bunch of black garbage bags

899
00:30:06,100 --> 00:30:07,500
and they would poke holes in it.

900
00:30:07,500 --> 00:30:09,260
And then it would create like an experience

901
00:30:09,260 --> 00:30:10,180
that you were in.

902
00:30:10,180 --> 00:30:11,260
- Oh, that's cool.

903
00:30:11,260 --> 00:30:12,300
- Looking at the night sky.

904
00:30:12,300 --> 00:30:13,140
- What?

905
00:30:13,140 --> 00:30:13,980
- Yeah, do you know? - Really?

906
00:30:13,980 --> 00:30:14,800
- Interesting.

907
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:15,640
- Must've been a really great teacher.

908
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:16,480
- Black garbage bags?

909
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:17,740
- Yeah, tape them together.

910
00:30:17,740 --> 00:30:18,660
- I guess so.

911
00:30:18,660 --> 00:30:19,700
Put them over your head.

912
00:30:19,700 --> 00:30:21,500
(laughing)

913
00:30:21,500 --> 00:30:22,900
- Read as fast as you can.

914
00:30:22,900 --> 00:30:23,740
- No.

915
00:30:23,740 --> 00:30:24,580
(laughing)

916
00:30:24,580 --> 00:30:25,400
- Hold your breath real good, kid.

917
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,060
- Get back on the bus, you know?

918
00:30:27,060 --> 00:30:27,900
- Great teacher.

919
00:30:27,900 --> 00:30:29,020
- How big are we talking?

920
00:30:29,020 --> 00:30:30,300
- I mean, this was second grade, right?

921
00:30:30,300 --> 00:30:32,740
So you tape like, what, 30 garbage bags together

922
00:30:32,740 --> 00:30:35,180
and make a giant garbage blanket, okay?

923
00:30:35,180 --> 00:30:36,020
- Whoa.

924
00:30:36,020 --> 00:30:36,840
- Dome it up.

925
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:37,680
- Garbage blanket.

926
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:38,520
- Dome it up.

927
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:39,340
- Next pitch.

928
00:30:39,340 --> 00:30:40,780
- Throw a box fan in it for plenty of ventilation.

929
00:30:40,780 --> 00:30:41,620
- Yeah, I guess.

930
00:30:41,620 --> 00:30:43,500
- And then it blows up like a balloon, right?

931
00:30:43,500 --> 00:30:45,100
Like those parachutes, you know?

932
00:30:45,100 --> 00:30:45,940
- Yeah.

933
00:30:45,940 --> 00:30:48,720
- And you know, you throw a projector in there over a pool,

934
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,700
you just like triple the size of it.

935
00:30:52,700 --> 00:30:53,780
- Totally doable.

936
00:30:53,780 --> 00:30:58,180
- Okay, I have a Discovery Dome system for $26,000,

937
00:30:58,180 --> 00:31:00,380
which is an inflatable planetarium.

938
00:31:00,380 --> 00:31:01,220
- Okay.

939
00:31:01,220 --> 00:31:02,820
- Everything included that you need, apparently.

940
00:31:02,820 --> 00:31:04,780
- They stole my idea that fast?

941
00:31:04,780 --> 00:31:05,620
Oh my gosh.

942
00:31:05,620 --> 00:31:06,700
(laughing)

943
00:31:06,700 --> 00:31:07,540
- How big are we talking here?

944
00:31:07,540 --> 00:31:08,360
- It looks tiny.

945
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:09,940
- $26,000 had better get me something.

946
00:31:09,940 --> 00:31:13,500
- It looks very small for $26,000.

947
00:31:13,500 --> 00:31:16,220
- So not big enough to put over like a pool in the backyard.

948
00:31:16,220 --> 00:31:17,420
Like an above ground.

949
00:31:17,420 --> 00:31:19,900
- It's like literally on the White House's front lawn.

950
00:31:19,900 --> 00:31:21,900
I don't know how else to describe it.

951
00:31:21,900 --> 00:31:23,700
- All right, we start with hot tubs, all right?

952
00:31:23,700 --> 00:31:25,100
Well then we go to the hot tub.

953
00:31:25,100 --> 00:31:25,920
- There you go.

954
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:26,760
- And we go full pool.

955
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:27,860
(laughing)

956
00:31:27,860 --> 00:31:30,860
- Oh, it's like a big black, okay, perfect dome.

957
00:31:30,860 --> 00:31:32,460
- That is way too expensive.

958
00:31:32,460 --> 00:31:34,740
We can undercut this market.

959
00:31:34,740 --> 00:31:39,020
- $40,000 for the planetarium Discovery Zone

960
00:31:39,020 --> 00:31:41,840
at eplanetarium.square.site.

961
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:43,360
So it's legit.

962
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,540
They didn't even buy a domain name for this project.

963
00:31:45,540 --> 00:31:47,220
- Add to cart, $26,469.

964
00:31:47,220 --> 00:31:49,460
(laughing)

965
00:31:50,540 --> 00:31:53,100
- Someone went to AliExpress and searched dome

966
00:31:53,100 --> 00:31:56,940
and put about five zeros behind it.

967
00:31:56,940 --> 00:31:58,740
- Leo, this might be my favorite idea.

968
00:31:58,740 --> 00:32:00,180
I love this.

969
00:32:00,180 --> 00:32:01,020
- Really?

970
00:32:01,020 --> 00:32:02,580
- Yeah, I would do this every weekend

971
00:32:02,580 --> 00:32:04,060
if I had one of these near me.

972
00:32:04,060 --> 00:32:05,260
- Possibly inebriated?

973
00:32:05,260 --> 00:32:06,080
- Of course.

974
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,620
Dude, you could rotate shows, you know?

975
00:32:08,620 --> 00:32:13,060
You could send like a flyby of Jupiter or something.

976
00:32:13,060 --> 00:32:15,580
Like walk, fly through Saturn's rings

977
00:32:15,580 --> 00:32:18,020
or here's nebula Wednesday.

978
00:32:18,020 --> 00:32:19,220
Come on by on a Wednesday.

979
00:32:19,220 --> 00:32:21,260
- You're just floating in zero G.

980
00:32:21,260 --> 00:32:23,220
It would feel like you're just floating.

981
00:32:23,220 --> 00:32:25,940
- Aerial footage over a big city,

982
00:32:25,940 --> 00:32:28,540
flybys on volcanoes in Hawaii.

983
00:32:28,540 --> 00:32:31,420
You know, like it doesn't have to be space themed.

984
00:32:31,420 --> 00:32:32,940
You're just floating and watching.

985
00:32:32,940 --> 00:32:34,720
I mean, there's like swim up movie nights

986
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,620
that, you know, pools and stuff will have.

987
00:32:36,620 --> 00:32:37,980
It seems like that, but better.

988
00:32:37,980 --> 00:32:40,420
'Cause then I'm either like standing in the pool

989
00:32:40,420 --> 00:32:42,220
and watching the thing that's off to the side.

990
00:32:42,220 --> 00:32:43,940
I want it above me, you know?

991
00:32:43,940 --> 00:32:45,500
- We could just VR this.

992
00:32:45,500 --> 00:32:47,780
We could just create waterproof VR.

993
00:32:47,780 --> 00:32:51,260
And then you just put you in one of those

994
00:32:51,260 --> 00:32:53,940
sensory deprivation tanks, but with an Oculus.

995
00:32:53,940 --> 00:32:54,780
That seems simpler.

996
00:32:54,780 --> 00:32:55,600
- Seems simpler.

997
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:56,860
- How much are one of those tanks?

998
00:32:56,860 --> 00:32:58,380
- We can make one for 40 bucks.

999
00:32:58,380 --> 00:33:00,300
- Yeah, you buy it.

1000
00:33:00,300 --> 00:33:03,180
- It's a trough.

1001
00:33:03,180 --> 00:33:04,940
- You go to Facebook marketplace

1002
00:33:04,940 --> 00:33:07,340
and look for like a old trough, exactly.

1003
00:33:07,340 --> 00:33:09,060
- Give me a trough and a garbage bag

1004
00:33:09,060 --> 00:33:09,900
and I'll poke some holes in it.

1005
00:33:09,900 --> 00:33:13,140
- Dent it up, clawfoot bath tub from your neighborhood.

1006
00:33:13,140 --> 00:33:16,900
Put a trash bag over it like Russell's kindergarten.

1007
00:33:16,900 --> 00:33:18,180
- Guys, we're still under budget here.

1008
00:33:18,180 --> 00:33:19,980
- Spend more on the salts, you know?

1009
00:33:19,980 --> 00:33:21,220
(laughing)

1010
00:33:21,220 --> 00:33:24,580
- There's a, basically someone bought a warehouse

1011
00:33:24,580 --> 00:33:25,740
in a bunch of big cities.

1012
00:33:25,740 --> 00:33:28,300
So there's one in London, Chicago, New York, Barcelona.

1013
00:33:28,300 --> 00:33:33,300
And it's a spa type thing, but it's a giant ass warehouse

1014
00:33:33,300 --> 00:33:35,660
and they have a bunch of different hot tubs

1015
00:33:35,660 --> 00:33:38,100
and like different temperature, cold plunges

1016
00:33:38,100 --> 00:33:39,260
and pools and stuff.

1017
00:33:39,260 --> 00:33:41,180
And the entire place is lit almost entirely

1018
00:33:41,180 --> 00:33:43,580
by actual candles, thousands of candles.

1019
00:33:43,580 --> 00:33:44,500
And it has underwater speakers

1020
00:33:44,500 --> 00:33:47,060
and you can like stand under a waterfall

1021
00:33:47,060 --> 00:33:50,540
and lay on hot slabs of marble and stuff.

1022
00:33:50,540 --> 00:33:52,900
So you pay like 200 bucks for 90 minutes

1023
00:33:52,900 --> 00:33:54,660
and you just get to like butts around

1024
00:33:54,660 --> 00:33:57,340
and hang out in the warehouse.

1025
00:33:57,340 --> 00:33:58,700
- That's awesome.

1026
00:33:58,700 --> 00:34:01,060
- I know, it's kind of sort of like this,

1027
00:34:01,060 --> 00:34:03,620
but also I need a movie 'cause I'm a child.

1028
00:34:03,620 --> 00:34:04,660
(laughing)

1029
00:34:04,660 --> 00:34:06,180
Showing me space.

1030
00:34:06,180 --> 00:34:07,740
- I'm with you, I'm a hundred percent with you.

1031
00:34:07,740 --> 00:34:09,540
- Can I get the space version of that?

1032
00:34:09,540 --> 00:34:11,500
(laughing)

1033
00:34:11,500 --> 00:34:12,900
- Not enough astronauts.

1034
00:34:12,900 --> 00:34:14,460
(laughing)

1035
00:34:14,460 --> 00:34:17,900
- I'd like to go to the space spa please, mama.

1036
00:34:17,900 --> 00:34:20,140
(laughing)

1037
00:34:20,140 --> 00:34:24,940
- All right, Chris, welcome to the show.

1038
00:34:24,940 --> 00:34:26,100
What do you got for us this week?

1039
00:34:26,100 --> 00:34:26,940
- All right, man.

1040
00:34:26,940 --> 00:34:29,540
So I'm pretty bougie, okay?

1041
00:34:29,540 --> 00:34:33,020
You know, I like my sneakers, you know, I like my hats.

1042
00:34:33,020 --> 00:34:36,460
I like expensive audio equipment, all that kind of stuff.

1043
00:34:36,460 --> 00:34:38,780
And so for a while there,

1044
00:34:38,780 --> 00:34:42,500
like I've used a loofah all my life, okay?

1045
00:34:42,500 --> 00:34:44,660
I just love like--

1046
00:34:44,660 --> 00:34:45,500
- Where is this going?

1047
00:34:45,500 --> 00:34:46,580
- Yeah, I know.

1048
00:34:46,580 --> 00:34:49,140
I like the efficiency of it, you know?

1049
00:34:49,140 --> 00:34:51,420
There's some other things that you can use,

1050
00:34:51,420 --> 00:34:53,580
they have like the little rubber ones, right?

1051
00:34:53,580 --> 00:34:57,340
But I don't really feel like it's like getting into my pores

1052
00:34:57,340 --> 00:34:59,140
and so I'm a big loofah guy,

1053
00:34:59,140 --> 00:35:00,940
I understand that if it stays wet,

1054
00:35:00,940 --> 00:35:03,540
bacteria can grow in it, that sort of thing.

1055
00:35:03,540 --> 00:35:05,580
And so when I got a sales job

1056
00:35:05,580 --> 00:35:07,300
and I did sales for a couple of years,

1057
00:35:07,300 --> 00:35:08,940
you know, I wanted to take my loofah with me,

1058
00:35:08,940 --> 00:35:09,940
but it was like messy.

1059
00:35:09,940 --> 00:35:11,940
It's like, oh, like I just used it

1060
00:35:11,940 --> 00:35:15,180
and then I got to leave the hotel and it's wet,

1061
00:35:15,180 --> 00:35:18,100
got to like throw it in a Ziploc or something.

1062
00:35:18,100 --> 00:35:20,260
And that's just gross.

1063
00:35:20,260 --> 00:35:22,300
And, but there are tons of people

1064
00:35:22,300 --> 00:35:25,180
that like to bathe in that style.

1065
00:35:25,180 --> 00:35:26,460
And so I was thinking to myself,

1066
00:35:26,460 --> 00:35:29,300
like what if there was a package,

1067
00:35:29,300 --> 00:35:31,740
like a packaging for the loofah, right?

1068
00:35:31,740 --> 00:35:35,740
That when you put it into it, it dried it out, you know?

1069
00:35:35,740 --> 00:35:38,300
Kind of like the reverse of what would happen,

1070
00:35:38,300 --> 00:35:40,260
like what happens when you humidify

1071
00:35:40,260 --> 00:35:43,140
like an acoustic guitar, but in reverse, right?

1072
00:35:43,140 --> 00:35:45,340
So it's actually taking the moisture

1073
00:35:45,340 --> 00:35:46,780
instead of adding moisture.

1074
00:35:46,780 --> 00:35:48,100
I don't know how to do that,

1075
00:35:48,100 --> 00:35:50,540
but if we could figure that out, boom,

1076
00:35:50,540 --> 00:35:53,060
all of a sudden you can have a whole line of loofahs

1077
00:35:53,060 --> 00:35:54,460
that go along with this bag

1078
00:35:54,460 --> 00:35:57,380
and trademark it, copyright it, all of the things.

1079
00:35:57,380 --> 00:36:00,500
And then, yeah, you just take it on the go.

1080
00:36:00,500 --> 00:36:03,460
And as you're taking it on the go, it is drying it,

1081
00:36:03,460 --> 00:36:04,580
might have to be like,

1082
00:36:04,580 --> 00:36:06,500
have some sort of battery power to it

1083
00:36:06,500 --> 00:36:08,620
in order to complete the process.

1084
00:36:08,620 --> 00:36:09,980
USB charging.

1085
00:36:09,980 --> 00:36:10,900
- A little heater, yeah.

1086
00:36:10,900 --> 00:36:12,180
- Yeah, yeah.

1087
00:36:12,180 --> 00:36:15,100
And that's the product, you know?

1088
00:36:15,100 --> 00:36:15,940
- Yeah.

1089
00:36:15,940 --> 00:36:17,420
- So I've got a couple of little,

1090
00:36:17,420 --> 00:36:19,220
you know, those like silica bags,

1091
00:36:19,220 --> 00:36:21,260
the do not eat packets that you can get.

1092
00:36:21,260 --> 00:36:23,980
I have a little plastic guy that's got those in it,

1093
00:36:23,980 --> 00:36:27,340
but it also flips out a little plug-in socket thing

1094
00:36:27,340 --> 00:36:30,460
and you put it on the wall and it will dry itself out.

1095
00:36:30,460 --> 00:36:32,140
So you can reuse them over and over again

1096
00:36:32,140 --> 00:36:34,260
for 3D printer filament.

1097
00:36:34,260 --> 00:36:36,460
It seems like you can make like a case

1098
00:36:36,460 --> 00:36:37,660
that does that, right?

1099
00:36:37,660 --> 00:36:38,500
- Yeah.

1100
00:36:38,500 --> 00:36:39,340
- And then you can put it inside

1101
00:36:39,340 --> 00:36:40,740
with those beads or whatever's in there,

1102
00:36:40,740 --> 00:36:41,580
have it recharged.

1103
00:36:41,580 --> 00:36:43,700
- But you can dry silica packets?

1104
00:36:43,700 --> 00:36:44,540
You can take the silica-

1105
00:36:44,540 --> 00:36:45,380
- Technically, yeah.

1106
00:36:45,380 --> 00:36:47,380
You could take like a throwaway, discardable one

1107
00:36:47,380 --> 00:36:48,300
and like- - Put in the oven.

1108
00:36:48,300 --> 00:36:50,780
- Put it in a dehydrator for hours sort of thing,

1109
00:36:50,780 --> 00:36:52,860
or like an oven or whatever, but it's kind of tedious.

1110
00:36:52,860 --> 00:36:54,420
So this one's kind of nice 'cause it's convenient

1111
00:36:54,420 --> 00:36:56,660
and built in, but they're not super popular and common.

1112
00:36:56,660 --> 00:36:57,620
I don't know why.

1113
00:36:57,620 --> 00:36:59,300
- Dude, Chris, I'm in this, I'm the same.

1114
00:36:59,300 --> 00:37:02,020
I get the plastic scrubbies, I call it.

1115
00:37:02,020 --> 00:37:07,180
I don't feel like I get clean unless I have one of those.

1116
00:37:07,180 --> 00:37:09,380
Something about like, it's like a scratching

1117
00:37:09,380 --> 00:37:11,100
of your whole body, you know?

1118
00:37:11,100 --> 00:37:13,020
- Exfoliating. - Like it's a full clean.

1119
00:37:13,020 --> 00:37:13,860
- Exfoliating is the word.

1120
00:37:13,860 --> 00:37:16,100
- Yes, it's the exfoliate feel, right?

1121
00:37:16,100 --> 00:37:17,520
You can't get without it.

1122
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,940
But I try to use washcloths at the hotels

1123
00:37:20,940 --> 00:37:22,460
and they're like terrible.

1124
00:37:22,460 --> 00:37:23,820
What am I gonna do with this?

1125
00:37:23,820 --> 00:37:26,880
Yeah, so I'm like, I had a work trip for three days

1126
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,420
and I'm like, I just don't feel clean until I get home.

1127
00:37:29,420 --> 00:37:31,540
And it's like, yeah, I totally get it.

1128
00:37:31,540 --> 00:37:34,780
I would, yeah, but my first thought too was silica packets,

1129
00:37:34,780 --> 00:37:37,580
just like throw it in the bag and just, and call it.

1130
00:37:37,580 --> 00:37:38,900
But I don't even know if it'll actually get

1131
00:37:38,900 --> 00:37:41,180
that dry that fast, I feel like.

1132
00:37:41,180 --> 00:37:42,380
- They have a maximum, yeah.

1133
00:37:42,380 --> 00:37:43,220
- Right. - Yeah.

1134
00:37:43,220 --> 00:37:45,100
- I wonder if there's a mechanical solution to this

1135
00:37:45,100 --> 00:37:46,820
where it could somehow like fold in on itself

1136
00:37:46,820 --> 00:37:48,740
and squeegee all the water.

1137
00:37:48,740 --> 00:37:51,180
- Oh, your juice compressor thing, just bring that.

1138
00:37:51,180 --> 00:37:53,820
- Just put it in Juicero.

1139
00:37:53,820 --> 00:37:56,300
There's a bunch of Juiceros lying around somewhere, I bet.

1140
00:37:56,300 --> 00:37:58,500
You could just reuse them.

1141
00:37:58,500 --> 00:37:59,340
- Buy 'em out. - And you're hauling

1142
00:37:59,340 --> 00:38:02,180
a big machine with the hotel with you.

1143
00:38:02,180 --> 00:38:04,500
This is my loofah squeegee machine.

1144
00:38:04,500 --> 00:38:06,500
- No, I know. (laughs)

1145
00:38:06,500 --> 00:38:09,060
- But yeah, can it like roll up and the water shoots out

1146
00:38:09,060 --> 00:38:11,220
or like fold somehow or something, you know?

1147
00:38:11,220 --> 00:38:12,780
- Oh, that's a good idea.

1148
00:38:12,780 --> 00:38:15,100
You know, I did swimming in high school

1149
00:38:15,100 --> 00:38:17,780
and I had this trick where you would take a towel

1150
00:38:17,780 --> 00:38:20,180
and you'd roll your swimsuit in it

1151
00:38:20,180 --> 00:38:23,380
and you would hit it as hard as you could against the ground

1152
00:38:23,380 --> 00:38:26,340
and it would dry your swimsuit so well

1153
00:38:26,340 --> 00:38:27,900
'cause the way you rolled it and stuff.

1154
00:38:27,900 --> 00:38:30,660
So like, I don't know if you could create like,

1155
00:38:30,660 --> 00:38:31,700
I don't know how to describe it,

1156
00:38:31,700 --> 00:38:34,380
but it's like you rolled your towel

1157
00:38:34,380 --> 00:38:36,820
so you lay a towel flat, you put your swimsuit on it

1158
00:38:36,820 --> 00:38:39,180
and you roll it and now you have every inch

1159
00:38:39,180 --> 00:38:40,460
with a towel drying it.

1160
00:38:40,460 --> 00:38:42,260
Could you do that with the loofah?

1161
00:38:42,260 --> 00:38:43,300
- Whoa.

1162
00:38:43,300 --> 00:38:44,860
- Just like roll it in a towel

1163
00:38:44,860 --> 00:38:48,020
or like have some sort of like version of that

1164
00:38:48,020 --> 00:38:49,740
that maybe you pull really tight

1165
00:38:49,740 --> 00:38:51,060
or like when you twist it, you know,

1166
00:38:51,060 --> 00:38:53,400
when you twist a towel a lot,

1167
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,460
maybe there's a way you could create a device

1168
00:38:55,460 --> 00:38:59,740
that squeezes out all the water with a bunch of pressure.

1169
00:38:59,740 --> 00:39:00,660
- I like that, Russell.

1170
00:39:00,660 --> 00:39:03,340
Like, there's just a ring attached to the loofah

1171
00:39:03,340 --> 00:39:05,340
with a string on it and you just pull it

1172
00:39:05,340 --> 00:39:07,460
through the ring of itself

1173
00:39:07,460 --> 00:39:09,260
and then all the water comes out.

1174
00:39:09,260 --> 00:39:12,540
It won't be perfect, but it'll be dry way faster.

1175
00:39:12,540 --> 00:39:14,500
- And then you throw the beads in with it

1176
00:39:14,500 --> 00:39:16,180
and boom, you're off to the races.

1177
00:39:16,180 --> 00:39:17,340
- There you go.

1178
00:39:17,340 --> 00:39:20,180
- That actually, yeah, you get it dry enough

1179
00:39:20,180 --> 00:39:23,740
to keep the silica packet from being soaked

1180
00:39:23,740 --> 00:39:25,180
and you get a new silica packet every time.

1181
00:39:25,180 --> 00:39:26,020
There's your model.

1182
00:39:26,020 --> 00:39:26,840
- Subscription.

1183
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,100
(laughing)

1184
00:39:29,100 --> 00:39:32,460
- The special, yeah.

1185
00:39:32,460 --> 00:39:34,900
You have to get our high quality ones.

1186
00:39:34,900 --> 00:39:36,780
Don't get the ones from the store.

1187
00:39:36,780 --> 00:39:38,780
- Yeah, we gotta make it DRM compatible

1188
00:39:38,780 --> 00:39:41,740
only with our loofah and our silica packet for sure.

1189
00:39:41,740 --> 00:39:43,620
- I mean, yeah, your silica packet's gonna be like,

1190
00:39:43,620 --> 00:39:45,820
you know, a foot long or something.

1191
00:39:45,820 --> 00:39:49,180
It'll just be like some special measurements,

1192
00:39:49,180 --> 00:39:52,860
like the Keurig of silica packets.

1193
00:39:52,860 --> 00:39:54,660
But you know, that's one model.

1194
00:39:54,660 --> 00:39:57,020
- Short of every hotel room in the nation

1195
00:39:57,020 --> 00:39:58,740
having those swimsuit drying machines

1196
00:39:58,740 --> 00:39:59,860
that spin 'em really fast,

1197
00:40:00,140 --> 00:40:03,180
what's the smallest possible incarnation

1198
00:40:03,180 --> 00:40:05,140
of the thing that,

1199
00:40:05,140 --> 00:40:06,660
so that's like a little basket

1200
00:40:06,660 --> 00:40:08,660
that spins really fast, like a dryer.

1201
00:40:08,660 --> 00:40:10,380
Is there a way to use centrifugal force

1202
00:40:10,380 --> 00:40:13,180
to get the water out somehow or something?

1203
00:40:13,180 --> 00:40:14,020
- A rope.

1204
00:40:14,020 --> 00:40:14,860
- Like a gyroscope?

1205
00:40:14,860 --> 00:40:15,680
- You could tie and--

1206
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:17,740
- Pull it like you're pulling a lawn start?

1207
00:40:17,740 --> 00:40:18,580
- Yeah.

1208
00:40:18,580 --> 00:40:19,400
- Spin it.

1209
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:20,980
(laughing)

1210
00:40:20,980 --> 00:40:23,140
- Like a salad spinner.

1211
00:40:23,140 --> 00:40:24,500
- No, I'm talking lasso, dude.

1212
00:40:24,500 --> 00:40:25,340
Like you talk--

1213
00:40:25,340 --> 00:40:26,180
- Oh, that's good.

1214
00:40:26,180 --> 00:40:27,300
- That's it, like lasso style.

1215
00:40:27,300 --> 00:40:28,900
You throw it, you know, like.

1216
00:40:28,900 --> 00:40:30,060
(laughing)

1217
00:40:30,060 --> 00:40:30,900
- That's funny.

1218
00:40:30,900 --> 00:40:32,660
- And it's a workout, we could sell the videos.

1219
00:40:32,660 --> 00:40:34,900
(laughing)

1220
00:40:34,900 --> 00:40:38,380
- Upper body, loofah dry 20X.

1221
00:40:38,380 --> 00:40:41,100
- The cleaning service at the hotel will appreciate you.

1222
00:40:41,100 --> 00:40:42,100
(laughing)

1223
00:40:42,100 --> 00:40:43,540
- Water everywhere.

1224
00:40:43,540 --> 00:40:45,600
Water and skin cells and soap.

1225
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:46,780
(laughing)

1226
00:40:46,780 --> 00:40:48,100
- No, you do it outside, man.

1227
00:40:48,100 --> 00:40:48,940
That's the--

1228
00:40:48,940 --> 00:40:50,580
(laughing)

1229
00:40:50,580 --> 00:40:52,260
- You're the crazy guy on the hotel lawn

1230
00:40:52,260 --> 00:40:54,180
in Atlanta in the middle of the night.

1231
00:40:54,180 --> 00:40:55,020
(laughing)

1232
00:40:55,020 --> 00:40:55,980
Just drying your loofah.

1233
00:40:55,980 --> 00:40:57,660
- I got a 4 a.m. flight.

1234
00:40:57,660 --> 00:40:59,420
(panting)

1235
00:40:59,420 --> 00:41:00,540
(laughing)

1236
00:41:00,540 --> 00:41:01,620
- I think the best one that, yeah,

1237
00:41:01,620 --> 00:41:03,260
I like the loofah with the ring attached

1238
00:41:03,260 --> 00:41:04,140
that you like pull it through.

1239
00:41:04,140 --> 00:41:05,300
That's really clever.

1240
00:41:05,300 --> 00:41:07,740
- Yeah, that seems like it would work, right?

1241
00:41:07,740 --> 00:41:09,060
Scott, you're the engineer.

1242
00:41:09,060 --> 00:41:11,700
(groaning)

1243
00:41:11,700 --> 00:41:12,940
That's the sound we make when--

1244
00:41:12,940 --> 00:41:16,060
- Sounds like a yes is what I heard, so.

1245
00:41:16,060 --> 00:41:17,180
- We're working on it.

1246
00:41:17,180 --> 00:41:18,900
- The project manager says yes

1247
00:41:18,900 --> 00:41:21,260
and it's the engineer's job to figure it out.

1248
00:41:21,260 --> 00:41:23,580
- Yeah, of course we can do that.

1249
00:41:23,580 --> 00:41:24,420
Figure it out.

1250
00:41:24,420 --> 00:41:27,220
(laughing)

1251
00:41:27,220 --> 00:41:30,020
- So who would our main customer base be?

1252
00:41:30,020 --> 00:41:30,860
- I think Chris.

1253
00:41:30,860 --> 00:41:32,460
- Travelers, right?

1254
00:41:32,460 --> 00:41:33,420
- Yeah. - The Russells.

1255
00:41:33,420 --> 00:41:35,180
- I mean, you just sell the better loofah.

1256
00:41:35,180 --> 00:41:36,420
It'd just be the loofah--

1257
00:41:36,420 --> 00:41:37,460
- The better loofah.

1258
00:41:37,460 --> 00:41:39,340
- Yeah, you'd sell the loofah

1259
00:41:39,340 --> 00:41:41,900
and that would be, part of that is you're,

1260
00:41:41,900 --> 00:41:45,820
you got the drying thing, you get the whole kit, right?

1261
00:41:45,820 --> 00:41:48,220
It's not just, yeah, it's not just the drying machine,

1262
00:41:48,220 --> 00:41:50,100
it's the full experience.

1263
00:41:50,100 --> 00:41:53,740
So like, yeah, you can get different colors.

1264
00:41:53,740 --> 00:41:54,900
- And they have, they've got a reputation.

1265
00:41:54,900 --> 00:41:56,580
(laughing)

1266
00:41:56,580 --> 00:41:58,460
Sorry to interrupt, you were on some heat there,

1267
00:41:58,460 --> 00:41:59,540
keep going.

1268
00:41:59,540 --> 00:42:02,620
- You're thinking like it's a little different sizes,

1269
00:42:02,620 --> 00:42:04,060
different shapes.

1270
00:42:04,060 --> 00:42:08,220
- Different colors. - They light up.

1271
00:42:08,220 --> 00:42:09,780
- Surprisingly hard to reinvent the loofah.

1272
00:42:09,780 --> 00:42:11,140
- Glows in the dark.

1273
00:42:11,140 --> 00:42:13,380
- That's not bad.

1274
00:42:13,380 --> 00:42:15,460
- I was gonna say, it's traditionally

1275
00:42:15,460 --> 00:42:17,620
kind of a feminine thing, so you gotta like market it

1276
00:42:17,620 --> 00:42:19,500
to dudes with like the bro loofah.

1277
00:42:19,500 --> 00:42:23,180
It's got like fire and lightning bolts and stuff on it.

1278
00:42:23,180 --> 00:42:24,460
- That's right.

1279
00:42:24,460 --> 00:42:25,500
- Monster trucks.

1280
00:42:25,500 --> 00:42:26,340
- Yeah.

1281
00:42:26,340 --> 00:42:27,860
(laughing)

1282
00:42:27,860 --> 00:42:29,340
- Smells like Jim Bean.

1283
00:42:29,340 --> 00:42:33,700
Dude, there's your acquisition, your exit strategy.

1284
00:42:33,700 --> 00:42:35,380
You sell to like, what is it?

1285
00:42:35,380 --> 00:42:38,900
The squash or the men's soap bar, the Sasquatch.

1286
00:42:38,900 --> 00:42:39,980
- Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

1287
00:42:39,980 --> 00:42:42,380
- Instant win, perfect match made in heaven.

1288
00:42:42,380 --> 00:42:45,500
You get a bar of Sasquatch soap with your loofah, now boom.

1289
00:42:45,500 --> 00:42:47,220
- That's a good idea, just make it an add on

1290
00:42:47,220 --> 00:42:48,860
to like Axe or something.

1291
00:42:48,860 --> 00:42:51,180
- Yeah, so like a licensing deal.

1292
00:42:51,180 --> 00:42:53,380
Licensing deal, yeah.

1293
00:42:53,380 --> 00:42:54,220
I like that.

1294
00:42:54,220 --> 00:42:55,540
- Buy it in the gift box.

1295
00:42:55,540 --> 00:42:58,660
- Yeah, so then you expand, like your target market

1296
00:42:58,660 --> 00:43:01,820
would be any dude that wants to get clean.

1297
00:43:01,820 --> 00:43:02,660
- It's pretty big.

1298
00:43:02,660 --> 00:43:04,580
- That's gotta be at least like a third of dudes, right?

1299
00:43:04,580 --> 00:43:07,340
- A third, at most a third of dudes.

1300
00:43:07,340 --> 00:43:08,980
(laughing)

1301
00:43:08,980 --> 00:43:10,660
- I'm gonna get into loofah marketing in a second.

1302
00:43:10,660 --> 00:43:11,500
No, I don't.

1303
00:43:11,500 --> 00:43:13,580
(laughing)

1304
00:43:13,580 --> 00:43:14,820
- Pull up the pitch deck, let's go.

1305
00:43:14,820 --> 00:43:19,180
- Smell better, you know, less soap, more clean, you know.

1306
00:43:19,180 --> 00:43:20,620
(laughing)

1307
00:43:20,620 --> 00:43:22,780
For the economic buyer, right?

1308
00:43:22,780 --> 00:43:25,500
It's like a weed whacker for your chest hair.

1309
00:43:25,500 --> 00:43:27,340
(laughing)

1310
00:43:27,340 --> 00:43:29,140
- That's next week.

1311
00:43:29,140 --> 00:43:30,660
Sold.

1312
00:43:30,660 --> 00:43:32,420
- Well, if you're a stinky man on the go,

1313
00:43:32,420 --> 00:43:33,780
thank you very much for listening.

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I hope you enjoyed yourself this week.

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And thank you so much, Chris, this was such fun.

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Thanks for being on this.

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- Guys, had a blast, had a blast.

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- Thanks, Chris.

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- Our website is Spitball.show.

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There you can find links to our YouTube channel,

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social media, et cetera.

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Email us, feedback, comments, ideas,

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we're podcast@Spitball.show.

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That's also how you can follow us on the Fediverse,

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such as Mastodon, we're just podcast@Spitball.show.

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Our subreddit is r/spitballshow.

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Our intro/outro music is Swingers by Bonkers Beat Club.

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Please, if you wouldn't mind,

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hit us with that five-star review,

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Apple Podcasts, Spotify, whatever you're listening to us on.

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It's the best way for people to find out about the show.

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New episode is out in two weeks.

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See you then.

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(upbeat music)

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(dramatic music)

