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I'm Scott. I'm Russell. And I'm Leo. This is Spitball.

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Welcome to Spitball, the pitchin' kitchen, where three bug hunters, that's us, and a guest empty

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their heads of startup and tech product ideas that we have stuck up in there so you can all

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have them for free. Anything that we say is yours to keep. Russell, I believe you brought our guest

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this week. Who do you have with us? I have the amazing, incredible Alex, the wannabe writer,

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the awesome storyteller, musician, creative, waiting for her first book to come out because

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I know it's going to be great. And I'm trying to subtly encourage her to release a book.

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I was going to say, wannabe writer sounds kind of passive aggressive or just aggressive.

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Do you subtly encourage everyone to write books?

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She also does an amazing book review.

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You should follow her on YouTube.

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Alex, you can do your plug later.

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No, no.

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Alex, welcome to Spitball.

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We're so glad to have you.

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Thank you for that lovely intro, Russell.

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Anytime, Alex.

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This week, we are going to be playing a quick little game here that we're calling CES BS.

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Do you guys know what CES is?

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the consumer electronics show oh yeah in vegas exactly every january the first week of the year

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there is a show that is a big electronics fair and all the tv manufacturers and wannabe big

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name in startup industry all try to show off their wares it's sort of waned in popularity

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in the last few years but i feel like the last year at least this year's was quite good again and

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over the years there's been a lot of really weird stuff that's come out and so today i'm just going

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to read you a headline from some CES between 2013 and now. I can give you the year if you think

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that's helpful as a hint. And this is going to be a headline from an actual, you know, time.com,

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abc.com, The Verge, et cetera, digital trends. And I'll read the headline and you tell me if

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you think yes or no, is this a real thing that actually happened or was it fake? All right.

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Start off, of course, as we always do with our guest, Alex. Kohler's smart toilet promises,

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quote a fully immersive experience this is an intelligent toilet with built-in surround sound

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speakers ambient mood lighting and amazon alexa voice controls was this a real thing that happened

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or something that i made up uh i essentially think that's probably a real thing that's exactly right

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it was 2019 kohler had a whole situation going on at their booth i guess if you make toilets like

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what else do you do right but yeah that was a verge article guys i have been on that toilet

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why was it an immersive experience

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it was a little overwhelming how so you come for a very you know simple task and you leave and

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you're like did i hit all the features like maybe i could have done the fan blower at the normal

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speed or should i gone higher like there's literally fans i don't know uh go to the

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My back was massaged.

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I did my taxes.

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It was incredible.

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I was only in there for 40 minutes.

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I don't know if I had enough time.

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Full body experience.

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Scott, brush your luscious locks with this smart hairbrush that knows more about your hair than you do.

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I'm going to say that one's fake.

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It's a real article from 2017.

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Are you serious?

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Digitaltrends.com.

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Yeah, Withings and others.

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What metrics is it possibly giving you?

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I think it's like hair thickness and all kinds of stats.

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It's not just how many times you had to brush it, but it like measures and analyzes your hair, I guess.

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I don't know.

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Probably gives you a curl pattern.

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Right, I guess.

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This is why we need more females on the show.

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Yeah, curl pattern for sure.

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That's exactly what that must do.

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Russell.

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Thank you.

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This smart belt will automatically loosen when you eat too much.

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That can't be real.

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But it's just somebody's thought of this.

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Final answer?

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It's not real.

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Not real.

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Time.com, 2015, real thing.

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Amazing.

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You don't have to start eating healthy because of this automatically loosening belt.

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Sure enough.

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All right.

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One more trip through.

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Alex, fork that vibrates when you eat too fast is ready to feed you.

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Oh, my God.

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I'm going to say that's not real.

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it was called the happy fork it was legit in 2013 it's a fork with a small computer inside

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it recorded your eating pattern and it vibrated when you ate too fast i don't know if it ever

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came out this isn't necessarily whether the product made it to market this is just somebody

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had a dream at ces uh i believe that means it's still 1 0 0 with alex in the lead um scott hands

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on demo with sherman's new toilet paper robot and fart smell sensor at ces the sherman booth

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What do you do with a fart smell sensor? I'm just going to say it's real.

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It was real. 2020. Yes. GeekWire had that article. The roll bot was the Bluetooth enabled

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robot that helped deliver fresh rolls of toilet paper when you unexpectedly run out. And the smell

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sense combined a fart sensor with an LED display and it alerted you whether or not a bathroom is

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safe to enter. Wait, I'm sorry. It gives you toilet paper when you run out? Is it like a

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drone that flies yeah i think that was the demo yeah maybe for offices or something i don't know

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lastly russell the sensor wake smell based alarm clock has a nagging bacon deficit you can wait to

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the smell of hot chocolate peppermint and espresso but inexplicably not bacon i want one of those so

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yes yeah i that's an amazing idea 2016 techhive.com that is legit if you're keeping track at home

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every one of us got one out of two and all of those were real that's part of the joke

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i wonder how well that smell sensor would work you just make it smell like smoke every morning

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you just shoot out of bed yeah i don't know do you you must buy pods to like refill the

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the smells i don't like a glade plug-in i guess oh yeah it makes sense that sounds like a Spitball

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idea. Somebody should have pitched that on Spitball. That and the belt and the fork. Well,

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it didn't make it to market in 2016 from what I can tell, but maybe you two could revive the

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SensorWake brand. Wow. Who would have thought that there are so many Spitball ideas actually

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out in the real world? Just crappy enough to be on this show. All right, Leo, what is an idea you

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would love to create but just don't have time for okay i've got something really simple i don't even

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know if we can get five or ten minutes of discussion out of this because it's so no-brainer

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but maybe there's somewhere we can go when electronics have ports on them your usbc port

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the female side the lightning port etc and they start to get old even usba ports they sort of

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don't hold cables very well anymore you put in a cable and it kind of falls out on its own or it

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flops around a little bit. You've got a wall outlet that's like 50 years old and it doesn't

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really hold the vacuum anymore. Instead of replacing the female side, I don't know why

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Monoprice, Amazon Basics, et cetera, don't sell a cable where the shielding, the housing around

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the connector itself is two to 5% bigger. If I had a USB port that's starting to go a little

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bit bad on my computer, why can't I get just a smidge oversized of a cable that can grab onto

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that loose port and get another year or two out of it. That's the whole pitch of all the people

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in the world. If I could get an extension cord that was three inches longer that I plug my vacuum

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into, and then I plug that into the wall, but it's a little bit too big, maybe then it would

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hold on better. Leo, I never would have guessed you want more variations of USBs or cables in

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general. I want a USB-C size four, USB-C size five. It definitely needs to be like clearly

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labeled so it sits out of my collection, you know? It's like the warning sign or something. Yeah,

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I just, there's all kinds of like aging devices that I think we could get a little bit more time

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out of. Everyone's had the experience of like the port that has to be at just the right angle so

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that it connects right and it doesn't quite fit in just the right way. Like beef up the connector

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a little bit. How would you, sizing, would you be like a variety of sizes and you just have to like

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plug it in, get like one of those packs that you can get where there's a bunch of different sizes?

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oh yeah maybe there's like a two three four and five percent too big hauling the same backs i

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don't know yeah you i feel like even if it was just like regular and jumbo where it was three

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percent bigger on all sides and that's it you know usb that's all you need jumbo usb so just

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quite broken enough you have to wait a little bit if it doesn't fit yeah otherwise it's going to go

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in the trash anyway the you know laptops ports aren't working right or whatever like you could

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probably get a little bit more life out of it if we had something that could just sort of fit

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snugly again like it was brand new wait so this is what's happening inside your computer port right

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this isn't like the other way right it's not the usb cable itself i was picturing selling cables

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it'd be the cheap way to go they're just a little bit too big of a cable and you just sort of like

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force it in there in a way where it fit more snugly like it just came out of the box but

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you know okay so i'm gonna one-up you on here leo take a us you have a usb cable you sell a

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super small sticker like a shim that you put on top of the usb itself and so when you plug it in

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it just has a extra half millimeter on there and you just get like a reel of these stickers that

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you sure could that work on something that's like 110 standard us nema outlet maybe is that do i

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have to worry about my stickers catching on fire i don't really know electricity that well

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we're just fireproof stickers maybe if it's five volt use fireproof stickers make them out of

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something that's the tagline for this one i don't know if we want to draw the customer's eye to hey

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this is a fire risk that's interesting though because you're right if the resistance is too

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high on the sticker it will catch fire much quicker than all right so this is the cable itself and

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this is permanent right like why don't you just create like what is it uh they have plumbers buddy

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you know the plumber's putty that you use to like yeah just like wrap it like come up with the

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non-conductive and you shove it in there it dries and then it never comes out it's like you're done

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with it yeah i guess like even like electrical tape and you just kind of wrap it a little bit

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right glue kind of guy that's it we just you just glue is amazing for that it's non-conductive you

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can put on everything it's forgiving you can peel it off if you made a mistake which you always do

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when you hot glue. Don't they have like a

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paste? Don't they have like a computer paste

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that's non-conductive that you can just

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just glue it in there? You guys

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are you proposing something permanent? I don't want

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to attach a cable permanently

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to my computer when it's starting to get old. It's already

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broken. So it's got a little pigtail.

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Yeah, I guess.

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I just wanted a normal cable but a little bigger

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so I could use it like

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it's a normal cable. Is that so much to ask?

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keeping the problem. But no, I guess

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that makes sense. Then you can unplug it.

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Maybe there's some way to make the reverse where it's kind of like a shim that sits permanently in the port itself. Yeah. I don't really know the exact mechanism that grabs onto a standard outlet in my house is like on the inside of it. You would need lots of different connectors and cables to fit all the different style of port, I guess.

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Dude, this makes me think of, what are those mag chargers? Like, oh yeah, Mac has this,

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like the MagSafe chargers. Yeah. Why don't you just have that? Wait, what are they? Like you

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plug it in. MagSafe. Yeah, you plug it into your port. I don't know if they do this for every other

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type of USB, but like maybe they just, you shove it in there, right? And it like meshes in there.

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That's the thing. Yeah. Leo, explain it. Yeah. MacBooks have a charger that's a non-standard

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proprietary thing where the cable itself has a magnet in it and it like attaches itself to the

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port and then if you trip over the cable it breaks away cleanly without dragging your laptop off the

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table um it's a great concept i've seen what kind of what you're talking about russell so like you

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can get a little tiny it looks like those tiny like logitech usb receiver kind of things a little

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slim usb thing that lives in the port permanently and then the cable that attaches with their own

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magnet like thing yeah yeah you can get something like that too i guess maybe if that was two to

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five percent too oh is that real that's a real thing i thought it was just that's a real thing

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yeah yeah you can get you know mag safe knockoff that's universally compatible so it just kind of

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lives permanently in a usbc port and then you have to use their cable it still wiggles though

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right it's like a loose tooth you know maybe you don't want a loose tooth you gotta have the jumbo

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you gotta put the jumbo in there right i am not a cad drawer but i do feel like i could take a

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standard usb cable design and just drag it a little bit to be bigger and ship that off to

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some manufacturer in china to say here's my blueprint here's my my design it's this but a

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little big done lightning would be tricky because the pins the way they're laid out it'd have to be

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like a little bit too wide but the pins would still line up in there but most of the current

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charging cables. I think they have like a housing around them, like USB-A, the old style rectangle

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USB ports. You just need to make that just like a little too big. Anyway, I don't want to belabor

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the point, but you get it. I get it. Sounds like you've had this problem recently, Leo.

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I see it a lot at work. Like someone will bring in a laptop from five years ago, six, seven,

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eight years ago that just nothing stays in, right? And they've got duct tape holding cables to it

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and stuff. It was me. Man, there's got to be a way to. If you're using duct tape at that point,

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you might as well just replace whatever you're using.

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Some college students are creatively on a budget, you know?

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I'm wondering what else you can apply that to.

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I was thinking originally when you pitched the idea,

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like my vacuum, after it's been a few years,

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the plug will come out of the wall way more regularly.

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Totally.

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And I was like, oh, maybe you have an extension cord out of the wall.

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I feel like there are other areas that make sense.

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like especially the other end right so rather than it being the port i have like a bunch of cables

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where just the part that goes into the macbook or like into your phone or device is bent to all hell

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you know sure i i don't know maybe this does exist but like just cutting that end off and

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reapplying something new on there like then i apply my jumbo cable you know or like whatever

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different fitting sizes i convert it to usbc or whatever like like i just want to be able to

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wire strip and make that happen with i don't know in an easy way that's the trick the easy part you

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can't do that buy a new connector on the end and cut it and attach it and stuff but sometimes it's

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hard to get it up to spec because certain like thunderbolt cables have really specific requirements

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as to exactly what kind of length and stuff they're allowed to have but most of the time yeah

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you can just cut it and put a new end on it but oftentimes it's a few bucks for the connector and

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you might as well just buy a new cable at that point russell i'm thinking about your vacuum yeah

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that the ac outlet comes out of the wall i want to have some kind of device that you buy off the

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shelf and it's just like a little round sticker or like one of those materials that sticks to

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things but you can still peel it away really easily and have that surrounding the plug you

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like attach that to a normal plug and so when you put it in the wall it just stays there much more

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than it would have based on the grip of just the ac outlet command strip yeah but all around

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removable it's not on the wall it's on the cable i guess you could do it to the wall why not just

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make your that's like the cable put the sticker around the socket and then have it once it's

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plugged in attached to the wall right actually the socket the socket's a good idea velcro like

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the plate that goes on the wall. Oh, Velcro would be too.

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Velcro's a good idea. I was picturing the Blu-Tack like stuff that you used to

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in kindergarten to put up your bulletin board like papers on the wall and stuff. But

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yeah, Velcro makes a lot of sense. We should put that on every outlet. I love that.

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I bet this could apply to USBs too. It's just a little thinner, thinner version.

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Do you think Apple would concede the industrial design of having Velcro on the bottom of every

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phone that they make. I don't know. It seems like something the EU would have to force them to do.

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Too soon, man. Apple and Velcro just sound like two opposite ends of the world. The universe,

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you know? Alex, what is something that you would love to see in the world,

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but that you don't have time to make? Okay. So I don't know if you guys have this problem,

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But now that we are a way more globalized world, we have access to so much different kind of entertainment than we have previously, right?

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So I have been watching a whole lot more TV shows, listening to music, variety shows, all sorts of things, movies that are not in English.

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And while captions are great and translations are great, I have not, I can't remember how many times I have seen a show or watched a movie and then gone online and seen somebody whose native language is whatever language that the show was in and just told me that the captions are completely off.

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Really?

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They're a literal direct translation often.

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But the thing that's missing that would make the show better is the context.

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right is the the cultural context that is missing from the direct translation so i thought there

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should be some app some product some something where we can employ a bunch of people who are

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bilingual to do those translations but with the cultural context in it oh yeah yeah whoa that's

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fantastic do you know duolingo's business model i think about this constantly it's so interesting

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Duolingo will go to a web page and say, "Hey, web page person, we will translate your web page for you." They break the sentences up into pieces and that's what they're quizzing people on. They mix it up with their own content, but they are crowdsourcing a bunch of people doing this translation. Yeah. It's one of the services like if I want to have my web page in five different languages, I go to Duolingo, I pay the money, and then they have like hundreds of people all get quizzed on what's this sentence mean? What's that sentence mean? And they do kind of what they're doing.

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you're talking about there, but it doesn't have the cultural context either, right? Unless you're

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able to get paragraphs together, you could totally gamify it like they do. That would be really

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interesting. I would love that job. Hey, you need to watch movies all day, but you also have to be

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able to be fluent in Spanish and English and tell exactly what's happening here and make sure we're

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doing this right. Yeah, totally. And I don't think it even needs to be limited to the language

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aspect, right? So there's cultural context missing generationally. So you've got a Gen Xer who wants

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to know what the millennials are talking about or the Gen Zs, where they have all this other lingo

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and cultural context from just being who they are and when they were born.

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Interesting. Generational translation too. I don't speak another language fluently enough

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to do this, but if I was watching a show that had a lot of hip and trendy lingo,

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I could translate it to old man talk. That's fun.

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Z to boomer.

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That's interesting.

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All these different people, all age ranges across the world to do all of this translation.

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And not just like English to Korean or English to Japanese, like talking like Japanese to Spanish.

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All like all over, make it as global as we are currently.

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Whoa.

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Do you imagine this, the end product that all these users generate, is this something that's baked into Netflix itself as like another audio track to pick from?

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Or is this like a thing that lives alongside the media in your own little app that you make?

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So I think it could be either way.

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I think if it is large enough, we could go to Netflix and say, I don't know how Netflix works really, but like you could go to Netflix and say, we have this product and we have these people who have done these translations for shows that they already have.

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And then potentially like shows in the future.

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We have any shows that they're creating that are coming out.

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we could potentially have that coming out as they come out rather than waiting weeks or months to

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get the translations done. I know there's also, there's so many people that actually do this

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already for free. Like it's just part of what they like to do on the interwebs. Like there's

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people who, so I guess to give you like an example is in the K-pop world, I don't know if any of you

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are familiar with this. They have lots of idols do live, like basically live shows where they just

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get on and talk to their fans. And that's all in their native language, usually in Korean.

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Sometimes they're bilingual. And so they have some English sections to it, but most of the time

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it's in Korean. And there are people who sit on Twitter, listen to the live and live caption,

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live translate yeah and so if we can get that for like the live things but also like if people are

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already doing that they're doing that for free out of their goodwill because they love the groups

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that they're listening to other people who love those groups why couldn't we pay them to do that

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totally this is so cool it's the same thing that drives wikipedia editors it's just like the

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altruism of it yeah um do you guys remember like back in the day i don't know where i you created

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like this memory that I have of like watching old TV shows on like MTV or something and they would

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have little pop-ups and speech bubbles as you're watching the show to give more context or like

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you know behind the scenes knowledge YouTube annotations kind of it was like literally speech

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bubbles they would put into like really yeah yes that happened on Disney a lot it was like the like

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fun fact edition of whatever TV show or movie. That's it. And I just feel like at the bottom

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that they would just like pop up and be like, did you know so and so broke their foot while

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filming this scene? Yes, Alex, exactly. Yes, I'm so glad. That's exactly what I'm imagining. But

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so you could like, let's say you okay, like that take that concept. It exists. It's been validated.

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It's real. You throw that on your phone, right? And so you time it like let's play like you press

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play on your TV, you press play on your phone. Or if you're watching it on your browser, you put the

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Chrome extension on there. Sure. Boom. Your phone is listening for the audio track and syncing

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itself up. Yeah. There we go. Right. And you can kind of be doing that same thing. And you can pick

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from different translators. I'm thinking more of like a crowdsource like kind of model where you

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have, let's say, ads within the application. And the more people that view your version, let's say,

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of context, the more money you generate, right?

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So kind of like content creation for TV shows.

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So now if you got like some guy that loves Friends so much,

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and now you're watching Friends, and you pull up your phone,

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and you can be reading, you know,

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Friends guy 48's annotation notes while you're watching,

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but it's got all these historic context,

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or like behind the scenes stuff,

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like links to interviews where they talk about this scene and you're just like re-watching the

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shows that you're already watching but to an nth degree like now you're just so immersed in

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friends culture or something like that or whatever show you're watching breaking bad scott like you

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know or something like that we got all these different people that love the show so much

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and want more content to consume about it, it's so real.

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That's such a good idea.

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Guests come with the best ideas sometimes, guys.

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Like, holy cow.

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You guys know the lyrics site genius.com?

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Yes.

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You can look up a song's lyrics or whatever, and then on the side,

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they'll have user contributed like, hey, here's what these two stanzas are talking about.

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This is a reference to another song that they wrote or whatever.

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Oh, yeah.

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Their original pitch as a startup back when they were trying to find their feet in startup world

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was what if we had a layer of comment section on every web page on the internet? I thought that

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was such a cool idea. So like you would fire up genius.com and then load up another page in their

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iframe on their site, or you can have their Chrome extension or whatever. And then every

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single web page that you're looking at, you press the genius button and then you get other people's

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contributed comments on that content. You're proposing something like that. I love that idea.

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And I was sad that it died.

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I feel like there is a world for like Wikipedia, but for something that's happening now that I'm part of, like real-time Wikipedia.

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Yeah.

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Are you going for both just live or live and old content, let's say?

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Well, I think it would be kind of cool to be able to – I definitely would like older current content, like scripted content.

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But I think it would be kind of cool to run like simulcast of like having the translator there with you.

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Sort of like a Discord.

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Yeah.

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Like live viewing where you can just like have these scheduled meetings with whoever thousands of people that show up because they love your commentary or they love your translations.

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I think that would be a tool often as well.

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Brings us together.

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Entertainment, right?

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Yeah.

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A thousand percent.

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One of the best parts of Reddit is like the, I just watched an episode of a show that I loved and now I'm going to go read everyone talking about it or movie that I just saw, right?

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You could do that, but in real time.

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That's amazing.

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I love that idea.

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I know that feeling.

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It's rare, I guess for me.

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It's like.

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Sure.

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I feel like there's so many like, so like that's the entertainment concept, right?

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But I feel like there's so many other concepts like corporate training videos or safety videos that like, I mean, if you want to make this a full-time job, there's probably like hundreds of millions of corporate people that are like, do I have to go into Google Translate and do this?

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Like, what plug-in can I plug into WordPress to make this my site Russian or something, right?

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Translated.

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Like, you can just outsource that with a network that's, you know, the bilingual network, right?

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Yeah, we've strayed away a little bit from your original translation between languages and cultural context pitch, which I loved.

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Sorry, I didn't mean to turn it into, like, we should all have a comment section on friends.

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Sorry, yeah.

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I think it's all linked together though, right?

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So it's everyone enjoying,

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if you stick to the entertainment side of it,

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it's people across the world enjoying the same content, right?

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So regardless of what language you speak

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or what culture you understand, right?

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We're going to get with this product

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or with this translation,

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we're going to get someone in the US

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who is now understanding like,

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oh, this is why they did this

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in the specific scene of this K-drama I'm watching.

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And same like you'll get someone from Russia that will now understand that as well.

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Not just like the translated to their language, but also that understanding.

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Ooh, you know, this reminds me, one of our guests, Sam Zou, a long time ago when we were living together,

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he was saying how, I guess like a lot of Mandarin, there's a lot of idioms, right, that are spoken.

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And same with English, right?

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So like to do a direct translation of an idiom is kind of doesn't make sense.

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Yes.

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So like that's kind of what you're like when somebody says, I never forget this, don't

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be the lone soldier in the army or something is what I was talking to Sam about this.

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And it's a whole context.

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There's a whole story behind that lone soldier that everybody knows the story of, right?

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Kind of like an idiom.

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How are you supposed to translate that into English, right?

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You create like...

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That would be perfect for your little blurb up there.

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I love that.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And there's literal words that can't be translated into other languages.

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So how do you translate a feeling, right?

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And get it to be any semblance of what they're shooting for within the scene of whatever

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show you're watching or whatever documentary you're watching, right?

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I'm just curious, Alex, was there a specific example that created this idea with you?

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No, I just watch a lot of K-dramas.

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I guess the the what it stems from is there's been a couple k dramas I've watched recently where

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I've like overall understood the plot and I've enjoyed the characters but I've left

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like there's some nuances of the story where I feel like I shouldn't have understood something

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a little bit better sure and like feeling sometimes feeling a little bit stupid for not

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catching on to those nuances. And it's, I don't think it's because I don't understand the story.

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I think it's because it's the language barrier or the culture context barrier. And if we can

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figure out a way to break those down, I think that there's a better discussion on different

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cultures with people across the world. And that I think ultimately, if we're like looking on a

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global scale, it's not just entertainment wise that helps us understand people differently and

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better. I'm willing to bet the top 100 potential fans of Latin America soap operas aren't even

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aware of it. Right? Right. Totally. There's so much like stuff that I'm sure people would love

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that they just have never had exposure to that this could totally link them to. Yeah, I think

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it's a cool way to like, learn to I don't know, that just be kind of cool to be plugged into the

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culture and understand that stuff at some point. Yeah. I think that like, a lot of people use

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watching other language shows as a way to learn the language too so if they're like if you can

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see or understand how people are phrasing the language because i think there's a very different

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way of like duolingo teaches you vocabulary and sentence structure but doesn't always teach you

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like what an actual conversation sounds like right you sound very stilted like you've been

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out of the book just like in school when we were learning french or spanish you know that was not

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like actual French or Spanish in the way that Spanish or French people would speak. It's just

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very textbook, right? U.S. American textbook. So, using stories or film or music, music a little

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less because you play with like the phrasings and lyrics a lot. But the other places, you're getting

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an idea of what people actually sound like, how they actually have conversations. And then

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adding that cultural context to it helps you understand why they're saying things that way

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right oh man yes i honestly love this for just english to english um well i mean by that i was uh

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yeah like i remember music genius i think leo if you this is it would give you facts oh no that's

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the company yeah that's genius yeah it's the same company then as you're listening to the song it

413
00:31:53,958 --> 00:32:01,058
gives you context clues yes to why like when you listen to rap it's like and have music genius up

414
00:32:01,058 --> 00:32:07,898
it's in it's so much better because you start to understand that there's like oh he dropped that

415
00:32:07,898 --> 00:32:13,018
lyric to actually make fun of eminem the nuances the original name for the company was rap genius

416
00:32:13,018 --> 00:32:19,418
yeah rap genius okay yeah it that was that was awesome like you just realized they were a watt

417
00:32:19,418 --> 00:32:25,398
combinator company yeah there's so much behind every bar that those the rappers use and you're

418
00:32:25,398 --> 00:32:32,118
just like oh i am so disconnected from it but also it's like how much deeper like rap is already

419
00:32:32,118 --> 00:32:38,078
really deep when you read the lyrics you find out how much more story there is behind it it's just

420
00:32:38,078 --> 00:32:44,958
it's so much better like songs like like your favorite song becomes even more your favorite

421
00:32:44,958 --> 00:32:50,118
it. It's just, I don't know, rap genius. That's it. English to English.

422
00:32:53,998 --> 00:32:58,298
All right. So Scott, do you have an idea for us today?

423
00:32:58,878 --> 00:33:05,858
I do. I have an idea that I've been thinking about all week and it is a survey slot machine.

424
00:33:06,558 --> 00:33:12,118
So I've been working with a bunch of students who have been trying to collect data in their

425
00:33:12,118 --> 00:33:17,978
university cafeteria and we found that it is quite hard to corner people or just to get people to

426
00:33:17,978 --> 00:33:22,338
fill out surveys in general. I'm sure a lot of people know this. Without some form of incentive,

427
00:33:22,618 --> 00:33:26,158
whether that's I will pay you for your time or I'll give you a gift card or I'll give you a

428
00:33:26,158 --> 00:33:31,538
king-size Snickers or something, we had barely any budget to collect a lot of data for this.

429
00:33:32,018 --> 00:33:37,618
And so that got us thinking, what if instead of giving out something to every person who did it,

430
00:33:37,618 --> 00:33:42,058
there is like you have online forums where there's you could win a gift card or something.

431
00:33:42,058 --> 00:33:45,258
But I want this in person right in front of them.

432
00:33:45,558 --> 00:33:52,838
So when all these students are exiting the cafeteria and we need to ask them specifics about what they ate today, because that's the data we're trying to collect.

433
00:33:53,078 --> 00:33:58,778
I want like an iPad that has all the information of the survey and they fill it out as they're walking by.

434
00:33:58,918 --> 00:34:03,458
And there is a 5% chance that a $50 bill will pop out of it or something.

435
00:34:03,998 --> 00:34:10,598
Or we'll just keep messing with the numbers on there until we find the right balance of prize to chance to win.

436
00:34:10,598 --> 00:34:11,998
And that's it.

437
00:34:11,998 --> 00:34:15,998
It's essentially an iPad taped to an ATM that sometimes spits out money.

438
00:34:16,398 --> 00:34:17,078
Oh, man.

439
00:34:17,198 --> 00:34:17,938
You're like a roulette.

440
00:34:18,698 --> 00:34:19,058
Exactly.

441
00:34:19,338 --> 00:34:21,878
Yeah, I don't know how legal this would be in terms of gambling law, but...

442
00:34:23,298 --> 00:34:24,238
Interesting, yeah.

443
00:34:24,618 --> 00:34:25,698
Who's your customer for that?

444
00:34:25,718 --> 00:34:27,518
Are you trying to sell this to people in your predicament?

445
00:34:28,318 --> 00:34:33,338
I feel like this could be a good way to collect data at random points from real people.

446
00:34:33,838 --> 00:34:36,298
Like, you could put one of these on a street corner or something and be like,

447
00:34:36,338 --> 00:34:40,078
hey, answer these four questions and you might win $50 or whatever.

448
00:34:40,078 --> 00:34:46,918
just like rent the slot machine experience the giant box do you know what i mean with the lever

449
00:34:46,918 --> 00:34:53,318
like bring them out like go to the store rent one and you're just like listen if you hit the

450
00:34:53,318 --> 00:34:59,718
jackpot we got here's our prize pool right you just create the the sounds the lights the the

451
00:34:59,718 --> 00:35:07,238
whole experience and dude i don't even care if i win or lose i just want to pull a freaking lever

452
00:35:07,238 --> 00:35:12,258
at the cost of what five questions here's the thing though you wouldn't have to add in more

453
00:35:12,258 --> 00:35:16,458
money into there you could just answer more questions and get more credits to pull that

454
00:35:16,458 --> 00:35:21,398
giant lever arm damn if you really just love the experience maybe to get around gambling law it

455
00:35:21,398 --> 00:35:30,698
doesn't actually ever win it's just about the experience that's simulator real casino for four

456
00:35:30,698 --> 00:35:36,438
easy questions gambling simulator 2020 you know how many slot machine apps there are on like the

457
00:35:36,438 --> 00:35:42,678
app store like really this is a real thing people spend hours of their life on their ipads just yikes

458
00:35:42,678 --> 00:35:48,658
uh i mean you could take a picture if you win jackpot on the slot machine you know like i don't

459
00:35:48,658 --> 00:35:56,078
know um okay here's another thing scott hypothetically you could turn this into a global

460
00:35:56,078 --> 00:36:07,718
thing all right let's get real big with this so you have no it's the same app right and everybody

461
00:36:07,718 --> 00:36:14,738
you throw like let's say a hundred dollars into the app the app allows you to run the surveys but

462
00:36:14,738 --> 00:36:21,598
there is a national prize pool that you could win if you do this survey so you have your local survey

463
00:36:21,598 --> 00:36:30,158
wins but then because you're using this app there is a chance that you could win like the $50,000

464
00:36:30,158 --> 00:36:36,838
prize pool that all the people across all the nations that are doing surveys on this app are

465
00:36:36,838 --> 00:36:42,598
able to win got it so you got a 10% chance of winning five dollars or something but you have a

466
00:36:42,598 --> 00:36:50,558
0.0001% chance of winning 50,000 each time you play this and now you do like uh you generate

467
00:36:50,558 --> 00:36:56,538
surveys now let's say and people are now generating like kind of like google what is it google does

468
00:36:56,538 --> 00:37:03,458
this opinion rewards opinion rewards right and google pays you every single time you do it

469
00:37:03,458 --> 00:37:10,298
they could just turn it into a gamble right i think people like gambling it's not gambling it's

470
00:37:10,298 --> 00:37:16,358
just survey for a potential win right it's is that i don't know how legal that is if you're not

471
00:37:16,358 --> 00:37:23,258
actually spending money what if when you had that every time you took a survey you like had a pool

472
00:37:23,258 --> 00:37:31,038
and then you could choose to pay out or reinvest it into potentially like gaining more so like

473
00:37:31,038 --> 00:37:35,238
let's say you do the surveys and every time you get like 50 cents or a dollar like something

474
00:37:35,238 --> 00:37:40,058
something really small right but you can choose pay it out or reinvest and then the next survey

475
00:37:40,058 --> 00:37:44,618
you take you get double that so a dollar or two dollars and then as you double it out and then

476
00:37:44,618 --> 00:37:48,918
you have the opportunity to do that global scale as well where they take i don't know i guess i

477
00:37:48,918 --> 00:37:55,138
don't know if maybe we would do you should do like double it and then add that to the pool that of

478
00:37:55,138 --> 00:38:01,378
the like the grand prize so you're still getting like every time you get a dollar but every time

479
00:38:01,378 --> 00:38:06,318
you double it you either you you put that dollar into the grand prize into like the grand prize

480
00:38:06,318 --> 00:38:11,958
and then that cashes out or you can just pull your money and cash it out it's cool yeah i want to so

481
00:38:11,958 --> 00:38:17,078
let me add a little context to this on here we had i always love hardware solutions for everything so

482
00:38:17,078 --> 00:38:21,258
this is why i'm picturing this as a physical product and not an app although you could

483
00:38:21,258 --> 00:38:25,798
probably get a lot more people doing that okay so a little context for this we have a bunch of

484
00:38:25,798 --> 00:38:30,578
students and we're trying to figure we're trying to optimize a cafeteria flow in order to do that

485
00:38:30,578 --> 00:38:34,958
we need to figure out the popularity of every food that's served in this cafeteria and we learn

486
00:38:34,958 --> 00:38:38,758
that we can't just ask people which one they like the best because they change their minds all the

487
00:38:38,758 --> 00:38:43,658
time and the best way to get hard data for this is to corner them either while they're eating or

488
00:38:43,658 --> 00:38:48,178
right after the meal and say what did you eat today that's the only thing i need to know what

489
00:38:48,178 --> 00:38:53,458
did you eat today and that is the truest data of what they like the best because it's what they

490
00:38:53,458 --> 00:38:59,378
chose however it's hard to capture the people or get them willing to do that and so i want to set

491
00:38:59,378 --> 00:39:04,978
up this ipad right outside of the entrances and exits of this building and have them just like

492
00:39:04,978 --> 00:39:09,738
they don't log in they don't do anything they just like hit a button and hit enter they hit a picture

493
00:39:09,738 --> 00:39:15,598
of their food and hit enter so here's what you do you set it up as a metal detector that you have to

494
00:39:15,598 --> 00:39:22,398
walk through to exit and so in order to do something they have to do your survey don't even reward them

495
00:39:22,398 --> 00:39:27,898
just keep them in the building until they answer the question what did you eat exactly here's what

496
00:39:27,898 --> 00:39:31,698
i was gonna say you ever been in an airport bathroom and they have the little smiley face

497
00:39:31,698 --> 00:39:37,858
frowny face nutrition you want that but like chicken nugget salad bar pasta french fries

498
00:39:37,858 --> 00:39:42,638
here's my question for you though have you ever hit that button in the bathroom yeah no

499
00:39:42,638 --> 00:39:50,218
have you yeah alex to say things were bad or good uh usually only good she hits the middle option

500
00:39:50,218 --> 00:39:56,458
each time no but i yeah i just want a way to incentivize them to hit that button even if it

501
00:39:56,458 --> 00:40:01,138
is the chicken nugget hit the green button or something and then there's a 10 chance of five

502
00:40:01,138 --> 00:40:05,538
a little pop out or a snickers or something i think if you could train the students that

503
00:40:05,538 --> 00:40:10,278
that could happen they would use it every day a little gashapon like the quarter machines that

504
00:40:10,278 --> 00:40:15,878
have a little capsule with a snickers in it or some m&ms or something that's fun i like that

505
00:40:15,878 --> 00:40:23,438
i'm thinking okay i went weird with this and i was like what if they automatically got a free spin

506
00:40:23,438 --> 00:40:30,118
and as they're walking they're like oh my spin won to claim your prize fill out this survey

507
00:40:30,118 --> 00:40:37,358
you know kind of go the other way out like create create the experience this sounds like one of

508
00:40:37,358 --> 00:40:44,218
like the scammy like car salesman like yeah yeah you only get winners then right you're always

509
00:40:44,218 --> 00:40:52,938
giving out a win and then but it doesn't as it that's too it's too icky for me in order to get

510
00:40:52,938 --> 00:40:59,238
this thing we said you is free you have to give us all of your information yeah yeah i i want to

511
00:40:59,238 --> 00:41:04,098
the hope was to make it is so you don't have to log in you don't have to do anything but maybe

512
00:41:04,098 --> 00:41:09,438
people don't want survey data without all the metrics is that a requirement for like your

513
00:41:09,438 --> 00:41:14,898
service like for my situation no we just needed to know some basic information we don't care who

514
00:41:14,898 --> 00:41:20,558
ordered it or why they ordered it just what they had that day i think the trick would be to get

515
00:41:20,558 --> 00:41:25,838
them to start doing it right so if you have the issue where no one's doing it but then you

516
00:41:25,838 --> 00:41:31,017
implement this iPad or this reward system, you still have to get them to do it.

517
00:41:31,017 --> 00:41:34,777
Pick the most popular person on campus and rig it so that they win the jackpot.

518
00:41:36,698 --> 00:41:37,658
They'll tell everyone.

519
00:41:38,817 --> 00:41:41,017
That's just marketing. That's just good marketing.

520
00:41:41,378 --> 00:41:41,737
Viral.

521
00:41:42,198 --> 00:41:47,178
I was thinking you make a bunch of these little kiosk stations and you manufacture them and then

522
00:41:47,178 --> 00:41:51,257
rent them out to companies who want to collect data at certain points. Oh, our employees,

523
00:41:51,418 --> 00:41:52,878
We need to get their opinion on this.

524
00:41:53,078 --> 00:41:58,718
And they just don't do email surveys or people coming out of a gym or something or grocery store, whatever.

525
00:41:59,098 --> 00:41:59,898
Rent it to corporations.

526
00:42:00,538 --> 00:42:07,918
It really is the bathroom, smiley face, frowny face thing, but flexible enough to be any sort of like multiple choice question that you want to get.

527
00:42:08,118 --> 00:42:12,858
So you know those machines at Sam's Club where you can get those free samples, but you have to scan your membership card?

528
00:42:13,057 --> 00:42:13,258
Yeah.

529
00:42:13,797 --> 00:42:14,398
Free ask.

530
00:42:14,398 --> 00:42:20,738
What if we did that, except I don't know what we would use for like the scan.

531
00:42:20,838 --> 00:42:26,317
If it's like maybe if it's at like a school, they could scan their ID because they already have one, right?

532
00:42:26,898 --> 00:42:27,257
Yes.

533
00:42:27,257 --> 00:42:29,918
And then it would grab all the information already.

534
00:42:29,918 --> 00:42:38,158
And then also for like button you have them press on the screen and then it will give them the little treat or the sticker or the whatever, right?

535
00:42:38,658 --> 00:42:42,297
That definitely limits it to like the schools or corporations with IDs.

536
00:42:42,458 --> 00:42:46,797
But I think that's fantastic because that's the perfect application for this.

537
00:42:47,458 --> 00:42:57,018
You need to figure out wherever the heck they're assembling those things in some factory and just get your own white labeled version of the free ask vending machine that you can put your own software on.

538
00:42:57,338 --> 00:42:57,918
That's great.

539
00:42:58,178 --> 00:42:59,198
That's incredible.

540
00:42:59,498 --> 00:43:01,058
That's an incredible idea.

541
00:43:01,338 --> 00:43:03,298
Like that's a vending machine replacement.

542
00:43:03,298 --> 00:43:06,298
You imagine just that's a whole Spitball.

543
00:43:06,398 --> 00:43:08,938
I'm going to save that next week.

544
00:43:09,618 --> 00:43:14,698
Could you take a literal vending machine only instead of the keypad to select a thing?

545
00:43:14,838 --> 00:43:18,257
you have your question and then it dispenses a random thing from there.

546
00:43:18,418 --> 00:43:21,017
There's 100%. Yes, Alex.

547
00:43:21,638 --> 00:43:25,638
There's some $5 bills in some of them, but there's also like a little fun size Snickers.

548
00:43:25,638 --> 00:43:29,438
A bunch of empty ones. There's like an iPad and one corner of it.

549
00:43:29,438 --> 00:43:31,938
Yeah, sure. One of them spins.

550
00:43:32,598 --> 00:43:34,858
Genius. That is such a good idea.

551
00:43:34,858 --> 00:43:36,057
That's easy hardware right there.

552
00:43:36,297 --> 00:43:38,017
And you just fill it with a bunch of Oreos.

553
00:43:38,098 --> 00:43:42,118
There's so many vending machines on like Facebook marketplace that you can grab for cheap.

554
00:43:42,378 --> 00:43:45,158
Right. You add your own little Arduino to it or something.

555
00:43:45,557 --> 00:43:51,178
You need to have like NeoPixel LEDs or something so they're all lighting up randomly and then it slowly settles on one.

556
00:43:51,598 --> 00:43:59,698
Absolutely. And I love some of them are empty. Some of them are like crap. Some of them are five bucks. You've got the one that's like the Nintendo Switch or whatever.

557
00:44:00,317 --> 00:44:09,938
I mean, like think about this, like at theme parks, right? Like get a free like button if you answer questions like you guys play Roller Coaster Tycoon.

558
00:44:10,198 --> 00:44:15,158
like there's so many reasons why you would want to do a survey and i feel like the worst part

559
00:44:15,158 --> 00:44:20,258
about the survey is not the survey itself but it's the the person that you have to deal with

560
00:44:20,258 --> 00:44:26,718
on the other side of it right so by making it a robot you remove that whole human element where

561
00:44:26,718 --> 00:44:34,478
hi i'm scott i'm russell and we're Spitball we want to survey your Spitball experience you know

562
00:44:34,478 --> 00:44:40,458
it's just like sure is that what we sound like here's a quiet form we're gonna here's here's

563
00:44:40,458 --> 00:44:46,198
two oreo here's a package of oreos or some goldfish if you just fill out these five pieces

564
00:44:46,198 --> 00:44:51,338
of five questions boom drops from vending machines i'm on with my day like you remove

565
00:44:51,338 --> 00:44:55,578
it's like okay and then you go one step further you put this in break rooms

566
00:44:55,578 --> 00:45:02,518
right oh like people who are already on the hunt for a snack right and it's just a you know you

567
00:45:02,517 --> 00:45:09,037
put it in like giant corporate offices or something obviously gotta be careful with the whole corporate

568
00:45:09,037 --> 00:45:15,797
just privacy stuff but like oh every day like that that machine's gonna be empty every day

569
00:45:15,797 --> 00:45:20,737
because people are just gonna fill out surveys and get free snacks like i think like a can of

570
00:45:20,737 --> 00:45:26,317
coke what does that actually cost 25 cents like if you're selling survey information at like that's

571
00:45:26,317 --> 00:45:32,118
true you know that that trade-off like i don't know like people would do that every day you'd

572
00:45:32,117 --> 00:45:37,077
have to like you can scan your id badge or whatever to pull that information there's just

573
00:45:37,077 --> 00:45:43,497
that's a good point like the snacks or the the prizes are truly cheap enough that you don't even

574
00:45:43,497 --> 00:45:47,577
have to randomize it or have empty things you could just give like pick whatever you want from

575
00:45:47,577 --> 00:45:52,077
our vending machine just answer these questions and it's yours yeah it depends on how valuable

576
00:45:52,077 --> 00:45:56,017
the data is if you're looking for something that's like i'm on my way out i'm on my way to class i

577
00:45:56,017 --> 00:46:00,357
just stayed at the college cafeteria and i yeah i'm gonna tell you that i'm getting chicken nuggets

578
00:46:00,357 --> 00:46:02,657
I don't know if we didn't reward that, but...

579
00:46:02,657 --> 00:46:05,917
That's the whole reason why we did the randomization for large prizes.

580
00:46:06,237 --> 00:46:06,557
But yeah.

581
00:46:07,337 --> 00:46:07,657
Right.

582
00:46:08,157 --> 00:46:12,717
But if you're like talking, you know, the 10 question survey about your political whatever, then yeah.

583
00:46:12,977 --> 00:46:17,237
The trick is stopping people in like theme parks and stuff from just taking it over and over and over and over again.

584
00:46:17,537 --> 00:46:19,337
Yeah, you'd have to have like an ID badge.

585
00:46:19,577 --> 00:46:20,957
You got to have some kind of unique identity.

586
00:46:21,097 --> 00:46:23,277
You scan your magic band at Disney or whatever.

587
00:46:23,637 --> 00:46:23,797
Yeah.

588
00:46:24,197 --> 00:46:24,437
Yeah.

589
00:46:24,817 --> 00:46:27,597
I mean, part of the scanning, right, is so that you can only do it once.

590
00:46:27,717 --> 00:46:28,497
Once per survey.

591
00:46:28,497 --> 00:46:31,338
When they change over the survey to a different one, then you can go again.

592
00:46:31,657 --> 00:46:33,957
I think I'd be the guy that would do it every day, though.

593
00:46:34,177 --> 00:46:36,817
I just, just to do it because I get free stuff.

594
00:46:41,317 --> 00:46:43,098
Russell, you're last to go this week.

595
00:46:43,358 --> 00:46:44,057
What do you got for us?

596
00:46:44,437 --> 00:46:44,877
All right.

597
00:46:44,977 --> 00:46:48,277
So I recently have been on a road trip.

598
00:46:48,437 --> 00:46:52,917
I drove to Florida by myself, sent my wife and kid on the plane.

599
00:46:53,677 --> 00:47:00,357
And it's great, but geez, is it boring to sit and look at a windshield for 21 hours?

600
00:47:00,377 --> 00:47:00,757
Oh my God.

601
00:47:00,757 --> 00:47:04,977
And you think to yourself, what am I doing with my life and all that stuff?

602
00:47:05,137 --> 00:47:08,637
You know, a little bit of, I'd rather do something else.

603
00:47:08,877 --> 00:47:13,617
Like I would love driving games while I'm driving.

604
00:47:13,897 --> 00:47:21,337
And I think they already have like heads up display stuff on your windshield.

605
00:47:21,517 --> 00:47:24,598
So you can see your GPS, your speedometer, whatever.

606
00:47:25,257 --> 00:47:40,937
Put a control stick on my freaking steering wheel and allow me to play some game that keeps me in the lines, keeps me aware of my surroundings.

607
00:47:41,937 --> 00:47:46,838
I have to look at each mirror to find Waldo, right?

608
00:47:47,217 --> 00:47:48,557
Oh, Waldo's in mirror three.

609
00:47:49,197 --> 00:47:56,557
It gives me some sort of game while I'm driving, and it does a lot of things, right?

610
00:47:56,597 --> 00:47:58,737
I feel like there's a lot of safety elements to it.

611
00:47:59,637 --> 00:47:59,917
Uh-huh.

612
00:48:00,077 --> 00:48:00,417
You know?

613
00:48:01,057 --> 00:48:02,577
It sounds like there's a lot of safety things.

614
00:48:02,577 --> 00:48:05,317
There are a lot of safety elements to it, Russell, for sure.

615
00:48:05,437 --> 00:48:06,817
There are a lot of safety elements.

616
00:48:06,817 --> 00:48:09,777
I mean, I think, I don't know.

617
00:48:09,917 --> 00:48:15,577
There's probably some statistics out there about, you know, sleepy driving, late night

618
00:48:15,577 --> 00:48:23,557
driving or uh when you're doing road trips like all that stuff i think that you can create an

619
00:48:23,557 --> 00:48:30,757
alert driving experience through heads up displays through entertainment through that

620
00:48:30,757 --> 00:48:36,857
some sort of entertainment whether it's games or something else um okay through these like a heads

621
00:48:36,857 --> 00:48:43,697
up display so i got two thoughts on this that's it uh okay one i think it was you that used to

622
00:48:43,697 --> 00:48:50,257
take your phone and put it like face up on the dash and then you would have your should i not

623
00:48:50,257 --> 00:48:57,177
say this no it's fine no i'm glad all right yes you know what i'm talking about it would just you

624
00:48:57,177 --> 00:49:01,997
would put your gps on it or like google maps or ways or something and it would just like reflect

625
00:49:01,997 --> 00:49:07,757
up onto the screen and then you could actually see it and while you're moving forward yeah yeah

626
00:49:07,757 --> 00:49:12,337
but he just did it with by putting his phone up there and that was nice totally one i'm picturing

627
00:49:12,337 --> 00:49:17,737
something like that but two could you also do a game where it's strictly audio so we're not

628
00:49:17,737 --> 00:49:23,057
antagonizing a bunch of politicians yeah like zombies run you remember that it's run zombies

629
00:49:23,057 --> 00:49:27,417
run or just zombies run that was entirely audio and it was like an exercise app so you put in

630
00:49:27,417 --> 00:49:31,377
your headphones and you go running and then you run for a little while and say oh god the zombies

631
00:49:31,377 --> 00:49:38,517
are coming rawr and you have to like try to move via gps around where they were listening to oh

632
00:49:38,517 --> 00:49:43,037
man and they're getting louder if i go this way oh i gotta go the other way kind of thing go faster

633
00:49:43,037 --> 00:49:47,977
it's like an augmented reality thing you can do that kind of thing for driving so like i'm playing

634
00:49:47,977 --> 00:49:53,358
a game that's yeah go past that cop right no there's got to be like a a game that we could

635
00:49:53,358 --> 00:49:58,197
build that is yeah i love it audio style even where you're maybe you're talking back at it

636
00:49:58,197 --> 00:50:03,397
you're having a conversation with the game talking back yeah good like hey what song is this and you

637
00:50:03,397 --> 00:50:07,517
You got to kind of verbally say, oh, you're playing a clip from this guy.

638
00:50:07,617 --> 00:50:12,417
Or here's a clip from a famous movie or show that we know that you like because we have all of your info.

639
00:50:12,417 --> 00:50:18,037
So like an Alexa for your car that does song quiz on repeat for 21 hours.

640
00:50:18,057 --> 00:50:18,617
Sounds like a nightmare.

641
00:50:19,837 --> 00:50:20,277
Yes.

642
00:50:21,097 --> 00:50:28,017
In this, you know how Wordle became a thing and then there's like a sea of knockoff similar idea Wordle type things.

643
00:50:28,097 --> 00:50:40,537
One of them, a coworker, actually, Sander, who was on the episode 13, I think it was, he turned me on recently to a wordle, but it is five guesses as to what song this is.

644
00:50:40,637 --> 00:50:44,597
And it starts with just drums and then drums and bass and then drums and bass.

645
00:50:44,677 --> 00:50:44,857
Right.

646
00:50:45,177 --> 00:50:45,397
Yeah.

647
00:50:45,417 --> 00:50:48,537
You could do that kind of game where it named that tune type thing.

648
00:50:49,057 --> 00:50:49,417
Audio.

649
00:50:49,557 --> 00:50:49,977
I like that.

650
00:50:49,977 --> 00:50:54,097
I throw in audio clips of like scenes from movies or TV shows and try to guess.

651
00:50:54,397 --> 00:50:54,797
Yeah.

652
00:50:55,037 --> 00:51:00,497
If it's like something well-versed in, like try to guess the episode from the show.

653
00:51:00,997 --> 00:51:01,237
Yeah.

654
00:51:01,417 --> 00:51:02,897
Audio games while driving.

655
00:51:03,237 --> 00:51:03,537
Yeah.

656
00:51:03,757 --> 00:51:06,577
And as long as you, what was the quiz game we used to do?

657
00:51:06,817 --> 00:51:07,157
HQ.

658
00:51:07,397 --> 00:51:07,757
HQ.

659
00:51:08,477 --> 00:51:08,737
Yeah.

660
00:51:08,797 --> 00:51:13,737
You just need like a super excited host or something that keeps you entertained while

661
00:51:13,737 --> 00:51:14,417
you're going through.

662
00:51:14,417 --> 00:51:18,157
It feels like they're in the car with you the whole way, but it's just a robot going

663
00:51:18,157 --> 00:51:18,817
through the motions.

664
00:51:19,197 --> 00:51:23,397
You fire up the large language model and now you've got personalized for your favorite

665
00:51:23,397 --> 00:51:29,417
television show host trivia. Whoa, your own little trivia game there. You know, I thought about

666
00:51:29,417 --> 00:51:34,137
gamifying traffic and I think this is part of it. Like if you're stuck in the same traffic jam,

667
00:51:34,297 --> 00:51:38,657
how cool would it be to just like run a little game show while everybody's stuck in traffic?

668
00:51:39,137 --> 00:51:44,837
Like we talked about a little bit with the CB radio one, but yeah, getting something that's

669
00:51:44,837 --> 00:51:48,857
like nearby to you. I like that. That'd be interesting. Also, I thought about, you know,

670
00:51:48,857 --> 00:51:54,637
how Waze and Google, they do a lot of like letting you know about incidents on the side of the road

671
00:51:54,637 --> 00:52:02,677
or cops. Like I think there's like some play there. But then again, I feel like going back

672
00:52:02,677 --> 00:52:07,997
to like what Scott, you were saying, like I put my phone, like that was what inspired this idea a

673
00:52:07,997 --> 00:52:14,057
little bit is like I would put my phone in the dash and watch Netflix in mirrored fashion while

674
00:52:14,057 --> 00:52:21,657
I be driving? I mean, it's allegedly you didn't actually do this. Allegedly. Allegedly. Yes.

675
00:52:22,717 --> 00:52:31,637
I mean, after 12 hours of looking at the same white line over and over again, you're like,

676
00:52:31,817 --> 00:52:36,177
huh? I mean, I'm listening to Netflix show right now. Might as well just throw it on my windshield

677
00:52:36,177 --> 00:52:42,497
and see it in mirror. And honestly, I felt so. I mean, I'm sure there's probably data out there.

678
00:52:42,497 --> 00:52:46,537
I felt like I was more alert as a result because it's just like, I don't know.

679
00:52:46,537 --> 00:52:49,397
Because you're so scared you're going to crash because you're watching Netflix.

680
00:52:50,597 --> 00:52:54,337
No, you're just like actually like not drifting.

681
00:52:54,517 --> 00:52:54,797
I don't know.

682
00:52:54,897 --> 00:52:58,217
Have you heard of, I feel like I'm in highway hypnosis a lot where you're just like looking

683
00:52:58,217 --> 00:52:59,657
at the same line over and over again.

684
00:52:59,817 --> 00:53:04,417
Like, I just feel like I take, I feel like if I'm not being entertained, I end up driving

685
00:53:04,417 --> 00:53:08,337
faster and take out my boredom on the road.

686
00:53:09,197 --> 00:53:12,397
Shit, maybe this is, I'm going to, like, then I end up.

687
00:53:12,397 --> 00:53:16,757
speeding then i end up like all right i want to pass this car because it's so slow i get

688
00:53:16,757 --> 00:53:22,997
i just am like constantly trying to accelerate and hit my destination or my journey rather than

689
00:53:22,997 --> 00:53:29,577
just enjoying i'll just cruise control a little bit and something i feel like there's something

690
00:53:29,577 --> 00:53:35,397
with the heads-up display what made gps allowed to be on that heads-up display can't i read a book

691
00:53:35,397 --> 00:53:41,017
i don't know or or teleprompter i don't know maybe not a full book but like can i do something

692
00:53:41,017 --> 00:53:48,517
and it doesn't have to be tiny in the corner it could be like right on the lines of where i don't

693
00:53:48,517 --> 00:53:54,637
know like right on the lines of where i'm driving so that i'm actually like seeing a light or a car

694
00:53:54,637 --> 00:54:01,117
i don't know this is is it that crazy is this that insane i think i i haven't driven 24 hours

695
00:54:01,117 --> 00:54:08,297
to florida enough i guess the movies and book thing like where's waldo s i i feel like americans

696
00:54:08,297 --> 00:54:11,677
The average person's got to be too stupid to handle that, right?

697
00:54:11,677 --> 00:54:12,417
I guess you're right.

698
00:54:12,657 --> 00:54:16,897
I guess I don't think of the lowest denominator, right?

699
00:54:16,937 --> 00:54:17,837
The lowest common.

700
00:54:18,017 --> 00:54:21,397
You got to imagine every other person on the road doing this,

701
00:54:21,557 --> 00:54:24,217
reading their book while driving next to you.

702
00:54:24,297 --> 00:54:24,897
It's scary.

703
00:54:25,357 --> 00:54:26,057
Okay, okay.

704
00:54:29,197 --> 00:54:31,737
The key would be to keep yourself engaged.

705
00:54:31,737 --> 00:54:36,617
So if you are having a Taylor Swift marathon where you are performing her concert

706
00:54:36,617 --> 00:54:38,277
while singing along with her.

707
00:54:38,357 --> 00:54:41,377
Like you're going to be way more engaged and alert in that 21 hours

708
00:54:41,377 --> 00:54:43,157
than if you were like listening to an audiobook

709
00:54:43,157 --> 00:54:46,237
that has a really nice slow paced reader

710
00:54:46,237 --> 00:54:48,377
who just kind of lulling you to sleep.

711
00:54:48,677 --> 00:54:51,457
So maybe it's not necessarily about the visual aspect.

712
00:54:51,457 --> 00:54:53,737
Maybe it's more about the interactive aspect.

713
00:54:53,977 --> 00:54:54,777
That's a really good point.

714
00:54:55,137 --> 00:54:56,797
I like the Taylor Swift thing too.

715
00:54:56,997 --> 00:54:58,797
Like you're just, you're driving on your own.

716
00:54:58,957 --> 00:55:01,297
You know this entire album verbatim.

717
00:55:01,557 --> 00:55:02,917
You are the star of the show

718
00:55:02,917 --> 00:55:05,037
and it's just putting on background clapping

719
00:55:05,037 --> 00:55:08,877
or other concert noises or something, and you're just going through different songs,

720
00:55:08,937 --> 00:55:10,877
and it keeps up with you with however you're doing it.

721
00:55:10,937 --> 00:55:11,197
Is it?

722
00:55:11,297 --> 00:55:11,917
That's fun.

723
00:55:12,137 --> 00:55:13,897
AI responsive karaoke.

724
00:55:14,257 --> 00:55:14,597
Yeah.

725
00:55:14,817 --> 00:55:19,117
Like in Guitar Hero when you'd play really well, and the crowd would start getting more excited.

726
00:55:20,737 --> 00:55:21,077
Yeah.

727
00:55:21,297 --> 00:55:23,077
Okay, I'm going to go back to visual real quick.

728
00:55:23,897 --> 00:55:25,017
So what if-

729
00:55:25,017 --> 00:55:25,637
Yeah, do it.

730
00:55:25,637 --> 00:55:28,617
We keep trying to steer it away to audio, but nope.

731
00:55:28,997 --> 00:55:30,677
All right, all right, all right.

732
00:55:31,017 --> 00:55:31,757
Imagine this.

733
00:55:31,937 --> 00:55:37,677
Instead of it being a phone on your freaking windshield, it's a full AR experience, okay?

734
00:55:37,977 --> 00:55:39,337
Now, you know, hear me out, hear me out.

735
00:55:39,517 --> 00:55:43,877
You actually, it like detects like where cars are.

736
00:55:44,017 --> 00:55:47,817
So like let's say this is full on safety, only for safety experience.

737
00:55:47,897 --> 00:55:50,257
So now it's windshield 2.0.

738
00:55:50,577 --> 00:55:55,397
It's, you're looking at your windshield and you actually see like car approaching on your right.

739
00:55:55,397 --> 00:55:57,937
You have something in your blind spot to your left.

740
00:55:58,097 --> 00:56:04,277
Like you have a full heads up display of driving experience, all safety because we're a little

741
00:56:04,277 --> 00:56:07,277
long on the fun part.

742
00:56:07,637 --> 00:56:08,817
But it makes sense.

743
00:56:09,337 --> 00:56:14,537
It's like all your blind spot detectors, how far away you are from the car in front of

744
00:56:14,537 --> 00:56:14,777
you.

745
00:56:15,077 --> 00:56:16,477
Let's say there's a traffic report.

746
00:56:16,477 --> 00:56:19,257
All that stuff is around your vision.

747
00:56:19,577 --> 00:56:26,617
And also you got some lines, let's say visual lines that are computer generated to help

748
00:56:26,617 --> 00:56:31,157
in like when you're driving in snow or when the lines aren't there very well or whatever else

749
00:56:31,157 --> 00:56:36,937
stuff you just have your full heads up display in front of you as well detects a pothole and

750
00:56:36,937 --> 00:56:41,557
turns it into a big boiling pot of lava that you got to steer around now we're talking right

751
00:56:41,557 --> 00:56:46,957
throw some entertainment in there clever so like that might be because like if you think about how

752
00:56:46,957 --> 00:56:52,957
dangerous the gps is the giant ass screen on your car nowadays that you have to turn right to look

753
00:56:52,957 --> 00:56:59,417
at you move it up in front of you and you create a full blind spot avoidant experience so that you

754
00:56:59,417 --> 00:57:04,857
as the driver are maybe that's how i should have pitched it the first time are fully aware of your

755
00:57:04,857 --> 00:57:09,797
surroundings so you're talking about creating like uh like a augmented layer over what you're

756
00:57:09,797 --> 00:57:16,857
actually already seeing yes this is like now i am yeah flick's in the center blindly driving

757
00:57:16,857 --> 00:57:21,637
while watching a Netflix with maybe let's talk about the sideline. Okay. That's a much better.

758
00:57:22,097 --> 00:57:29,197
The bad news is the NTSB won't let Tesla put like a camera instead of a rear view mirror. So I doubt

759
00:57:29,197 --> 00:57:34,657
they're going to be cool with, you know, fully enclosing you in a 360 augmented experience,

760
00:57:35,037 --> 00:57:41,817
but maybe in like 50 years. What if it was a visual projector? No, I guess, damn. So it is

761
00:57:41,817 --> 00:57:46,637
just a regulation. You have to sell the product as an aftermarket kit that people can do whatever

762
00:57:46,637 --> 00:57:51,977
they want with. Yes. And if they choose to put it in their car, then so be it. That's what I'm

763
00:57:51,977 --> 00:57:57,677
selling. That's it. It's an aftermarket. It's not a manufacturer thing. You put a small sticker on

764
00:57:57,677 --> 00:58:01,477
it that says, do not put this in your car and you're legally absolved of all problem.

765
00:58:02,036 --> 00:58:08,837
It just happens. You project it on the glass and it happens to connect to your... It should help

766
00:58:08,837 --> 00:58:14,257
people, right? If you do it right, like there's so many elements to the car that you're driving

767
00:58:14,257 --> 00:58:16,757
that are like blind spot indicators and all that stuff.

768
00:58:16,877 --> 00:58:18,657
Like, why do I have to turn my head?

769
00:58:18,977 --> 00:58:22,817
The damn government is preventing us from being safe?

770
00:58:23,597 --> 00:58:25,117
All right, here it goes.

771
00:58:25,837 --> 00:58:27,117
How dare they?

772
00:58:27,757 --> 00:58:30,437
They're keeping me from watching Netflix on my way to Florida.

773
00:58:30,437 --> 00:58:34,437
You see, then the next BitBall episode when that goes live is,

774
00:58:34,657 --> 00:58:37,857
we should hack one of those devices to put Netflix on it.

775
00:58:40,877 --> 00:58:49,917
Dear listener, we hope that you enjoyed the Spitball experience while driving yourself down to Florida or wherever it is that you are driving right now.

776
00:58:50,237 --> 00:58:50,937
Thank you for listening.

777
00:58:51,137 --> 00:58:51,957
We hope you enjoyed yourself.

778
00:58:52,137 --> 00:58:53,516
And thank you, Alex, for being here.

779
00:58:53,577 --> 00:58:54,557
This was such a lovely time.

780
00:58:54,737 --> 00:58:54,937
Yes.

781
00:58:55,256 --> 00:58:56,437
Thanks for having me.

782
00:58:56,697 --> 00:58:57,417
Oh, it was so great.

783
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784
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799
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800
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801
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802
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