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I'm Scott, I'm Russell, and I'm Leo. This is Spitball.

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Welcome to Spitball, the pitchin' kitchen. Where three startup savants. That's us. Empty

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our heads of all the tech product and startup ideas that we have stuck up in there so you

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can all have them for free. Anything that we say is yours to keep. And this week I brought

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our guest. Today we have Alex. Alex is my former coworker and good friend and fellow

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tech enthusiast. He is one of the reasons that I know how to code at all because I would

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pester him incessantly about syntax and structure questions over the years. And today he's going

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to lend us some thoughts. Alex, welcome to Spitball.

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Thank you. Hi. This is gonna be a good time. Today to kick us off, we have a guest pitch

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that we're going to discuss here. Some of you may know fabulous Neil, Real Neil Pipes

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of Steel from Community, Charlie Kuntz. We've pitched him for an idea. So let's take a listen

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to what he's bringing to the table.

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What's up, Scott, Russell, Leo, all the Spitball family. How are you? Just in case your audience

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doesn't know who I am. My name's Charlie Kuntz. I was on a show called Community and a special

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shout out to the small but mighty fans of CSI Cyber out there. That was a favorite.

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It's raining here in L.A. today, which is a rare occurrence. But I would like to pitch

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a better umbrella. The classic umbrella. I mean, it's been around for centuries, but

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I got to say, I'm not happy with it. You're going to get less wet than you would without

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it. But you're still getting wet. I mean, it's got the bar that goes up into the middle

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and then it comes out. But then I hold it at this side and then I got a whole area over

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here that's keeping the sidewalk dry. And I got this shoulder that's getting all wet

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and my pants are getting wet. My shoes are getting wet. Perhaps it's more of like an

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L shape. So you hold it in one hand, you can switch it around, whatever, just goes up and

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over. Or maybe two. Maybe the ski pole or better yet, an umbrella, an improvement on

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the hat umbrella, maybe just bigger and dome like. I know it's already kind of invented,

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but I want use of both my hands, too. You know, I'm a busy guy. I got to stay on the

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phone. I got to I'm moving and shaking. I'm walking. So that's my pitch. The better umbrella.

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I think it's time for a redesign. I hope that inspires conversation and thought and debate.

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And if somebody does invent the new umbrella, I'd like the first one and I'll save it for

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the two days in Los Angeles that it brings. So cheers to you all. Thanks for having me.

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I can't wait to hear how it all works.

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Thanks, Charlie, for your thoughts. So, yeah, he gave us a few places to start, right?

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I'm sorry. That was Neil from Community. Right.

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I love Community. That's amazing.

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That's great. Fabulous Neil.

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So isn't this like something that they do already in Japan where they've got like the

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ones that go from all the way down to the ground? It's almost like it's got like a shower

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curtain attached to the rim of the umbrella or something.

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Yeah, I feel like I've seen the like the full body thing.

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Yeah, like I feel like it's a I don't know if it's like a fashion thing.

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Mm hmm. Mm hmm.

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Yep. Do you be walking around with a shower curtain?

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Yeah, it's gonna be hard to make this cool.

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Oh, it's a shower curtain guy. It's a guy that walks around with a shower curtain.

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I mean, I guess that's a pretty easy way to prototype it, right? Like, right.

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I guess that's it. Like, that's the poncho. Like, that's why people don't walk around

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with ponchos or garbage bags, you know? Right.

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Have you seen those air umbrellas where it's just like a wand that points straight up?

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Oh, yeah. It's really high pressure air in all directions

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to deflect the air. What? How big is this?

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So cool. It's just a wand. It's like a pole that you're

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holding above your head. How?

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I don't know. It must be very loud, though. Like a like a Dyson or something.

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A Dyson vacuum. Blowing air out the-

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With about 12 minutes of battery life. You have to use an extension cord.

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That's incredible if that's a real thing. I love that. That's the sort of place that

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I was starting with was like, is there some sort of technology solution to this that nobody's

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thought of? But yeah, Dyson Airblade butt above your head is amazing.

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You're fine when you're not, when the rain isn't moving and you're not walking forward.

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I think that's part of the problem. So you can't walk forward.

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Or if it's really windy. Yeah.

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Maybe what if you shape the umbrella to like go forward like six extra feet?

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Like an awning? I didn't want to say six inches.

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I wanted to say like- Six feet.

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Oblong umbrella instead of an elliptical umbrella instead of a-

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Oscar Mayer Wiener umbrella. Circular.

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Yeah. We got it. The place where my mind went to was those

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cabs that you can attach to a snowblower. You know what I'm talking about? Where like

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you kind of have a full body. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

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You know who, Chick-fil-A. Have you seen, have you gone to Chick-fil-A when it rains?

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Yeah, the things they wear. That's right. They've got like little pop-up tents.

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They're like little minions with clipboards. Is it like on their back or are they like

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off to the side? I don't know how it attaches to the body,

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but it's like a pop- Oh, it's attached to you.

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Yeah. It's a full pop tent, bright fluorescent yellow thing with a little window. It's funny.

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Walking around with perfect cubes. There's no way anyone in LA would ever wear anything

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like that. I think, yeah. What's the fashionable umbrella?

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Like what's, I think that's part of it. Stainless steel.

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60 pounds. Beauty is pain.

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Just an aluminum cube around you with a little eye slit and nothing else.

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You mentioned the umbrella hat. I want to circle back to this Dyson Airblade idea. Can

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we integrate this into something you wear? So it's pushing the force field of water around

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you like a bubble. Like a backpack?

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I love that. Backpack for the batteries because that thing's

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going to be heavy. I don't want to wear that on my head.

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One of those straw hats or a bucket hat. Yeah.

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I really like that. Like one of those, the sun hats, but like

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three foot out. Yes.

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A sun hat that emits 15 PSI in all directions. Three foot diameter hat with a Dyson vacuum

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on full reverse. There's no way you can do that quiet either.

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I was just going to say that. I think down the hall and around the corner of the alleyway,

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"Whaaa!" coming over towards you. That's going to be great.

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I'm just picturing like a funeral scene in a Hollywood movie where everyone's dressed

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in black with their black umbrellas. And there's just that one guy just "Whaaa!"

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That's like a, I think you should leave sketch or something. That's great.

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Sounds real. Women's hair getting messed up as you walk

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by. Papers, newspapers stand going flying into the breeze.

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So what if we go a different way, right? Like the other way to get rid of water is to heat

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it up, right? And then it'll turn to steam and go away. So all we got to do is just make

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a super hot plane above the head, right? Yeah.

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Alex, yes. Can we build like a plasma hat or something?

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A plasma hat? Dude.

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We could have done lightsabers. Nope. We're doing umbrellas.

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It just whirs like a helicopter above your head.

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There you go. The full lightsaber effect.

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Just don't get too close to somebody else, right?

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Accidentally behead your dinner date. Dude, what about like a ceiling fan though?

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Like, could you do like a ceiling fan type of... A ceiling fan hat.

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Like a helicopter hat that actually... Okay. Quadcopters. Okay. How much power does a quadcopter...

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When one blade just isn't dangerous enough. They are loud, but they're not like that loud.

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You're going to have the strongest neck of any human alive as you're supporting the force

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of... No, it's doing upward thrust.

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It's doing upward thrust. Wait, what? Downward thrust. Oh, downward thrust.

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It's forcing you into the ground. Shooting the air up.

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They can just carry like a tarp above you and then... Oh.

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Yeah, you get four of them on each corner and... It follows you around autonomously down the street.

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Yeah. And then, you know, it's high enough away... They already do that, right?

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Yeah, you can't hear it because it's, you know, it's 50 feet in the air or whatever,

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but it's aligned perfectly so that whatever vector the rain is coming down is, it will not hit you.

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Yeah, you've created an anti-cloud. Anti-cloud, that's a good name.

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That's my favorite so far. Yeah, that's mine as well.

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Hope that helps, Charlie. We solved it for you. Next.

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Yep. We'll take investment.

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All right, Russell, what is an idea that you would love to implement but just don't have time for?

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All right. So, I have a baby, a big dog, and the house is constantly getting smaller

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because every year you get new shit. Just constantly. It just doesn't stop.

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And I'm not getting rid of shit fast enough. So, you kind of store it and you run out of space to

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store it all, start organizing. And I had this brilliant idea. All right.

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Why? I don't need everything in my house. I need it accessible at some point in time,

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but not right away. So, what if I had a storage locker like Amazon, where I had all of my extra

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stuff in inventory on a website that I could leave my stuff outside, they'd pick it up,

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store it in their warehouse. I could order my stuff, already exists to be at my house within

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one to two day shipping, two hour shipping. I don't know. Just storage garage meets Amazon

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logistics. And we got ourselves... I don't need to buy another house or a garage or a basement

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storage room. I just store it in my Amazon storage garage.

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I love that. Yes.

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But it's cool because I feel like I'm buying my own shit again.

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I buy it twice. So, that's it.

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I have been wondering what to do with my new pole barn.

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There you go.

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Yeah. And then it's like...

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Rent it out, lease it out to this.

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I was just going to say, yeah. You know how people moonlight as an Uber driver or an Amazon

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delivery driver. You are literally the whole stack.

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There you go. Crowdsource. No, crowdsource everything. There's tons of people with pole

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barn space. So, you have on one side, you got people storing and then you got the drivers too.

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So, you got the full...

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Dude, like your winter storage clothes, your summer storage clothes, it's two days away.

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And the whole system, it's like they take pictures and they store it. And it's a subscription.

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You probably pay per square foot or something. And it's not too expensive or you price yourself

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out, but it's like, all right, winter clothes, go into store is on.

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I don't know what's... I don't have a name for it yet.

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Store is on.

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I would want some guarantee that it's not being fiddled with and rifled through. So,

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you could do this per box where you have it like locking. I know that I have inventoried it myself

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to have these eight items in the box or whatever. And it just, it has my own code that I set on it

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or a key that I keep and gets whisked away. I want boxes number three and seven today,

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please. And I'll swap out whatever's in it.

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Love that. You have your own inventory of what's in there.

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Sure.

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Just request it and it shows up that day. I'm just picturing all these like storage

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units that you see where they just hire a runner who's like, I am the guy that

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runs back and forth and brings your shit from this place to your house.

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Yeah. It seems like the next shipped app, right? Like you got the ship shoppers,

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the Uber, like storage garages. That's the next, the next innovation.

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And I hate seeing good space being developed into storage units. That is the most ugly,

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annoying, like sad use of like a downtown area, right? If you do this, you can whisk it away to

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the warehouse district or people's bowl barns or whatever.

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I mean, you could even go to the Airbnb route. You get an extra room, you can

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hire out your extra room and I'll store 10 totes or whatever, right?

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Yes.

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You can have someone coming into your, on your property at 1am being like,

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"No, I got to get totes four through seven."

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Presumably the app or service would coordinate.

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You have to have this area accessible by the pickup person at these times of day,

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or you just set it on the back porch or whatever.

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Yeah. You can upsell it like temperature controlled, cooler unit. If you want to go

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full three sided marketplace with it, right? I'm just thinking I rent a old ass warehouse,

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couple of vans. That's it.

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Sounds like you're plotting a murder.

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Yeah. I'm selling.

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I know. I was just starting to think that too. I was like, "Is there some kind of like

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liability issue here?"

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Well, it's seasonal, you know? So we have the kidnapping season and we have a storage running

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season on the downtown.

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Legally, when that box you're storing starts to smell real bad, what are your rights?

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I didn't think about that.

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That's a great question.

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Yeah.

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So I would pitch it like, "Get your basement back."

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Yeah.

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You know? Add square footage to your home at $2 a square foot.

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I am a child at heart. I would store some of my gadgets and then be excited to see them again

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six months from now.

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Right?

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I think most people would. Not only get your basement back, but like you said,

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excited to see my stuff again. Yeah.

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I love that. Honestly, just put a scrapbook in there and then it comes back a year later

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or several years later and be like, "Oh yeah, this is really cool."

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How big could we go? Because it'd be great if I could send my snowblower off when I'm

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not going to need it for nine months.

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Oh my gosh. That is... Yes. Exactly.

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Stay out the mower for the blower.

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You have small totes, big totes, and pallets. And just whatever you can put on the pallet,

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we move it from point A to point B.

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Yeah.

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Wow. This is real. This seems real. It is.

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I think so. Yeah. Now we just got to come up with a good name for it.

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What did you say earlier?

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Store-azon. I already said it.

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Store-azon. There it is. It's like a Power Ranger villain.

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It's Zordon. That's the help desk ticket person.

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Here's another thing. You could look at your stuff and then it's already hosted at some facility.

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You could list it at that point too. You could sell your stuff through this app as well.

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There you go.

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So now it becomes...

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Somebody else meets you up. Yeah.

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Storage and fulfillment. So now Facebook marketplace is now managed through store-azon.

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Rights to the snowblower that Alex put in storage.

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Or rent it out.

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You can take over the movement...

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Oh my gosh.

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Or the moving industry too. Why take all this time over a weekend to load up a truck and drive

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it to my new house if I can just send all my stuff to the warehouse and then send it to my new house

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later?

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Get it at my leisure. Whenever I need it, I'll pull it out.

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Oh shit. Yeah. It's just like I can store my whole house and then buy it one at a time.

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Rebuy it.

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So is it subscription model or is it like a per shipment?

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I feel like I'd have...

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Both.

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If it was me, I would do a subscription model just because...

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Exactly what you're saying, Russell. I don't want to be buying my stuff back every time.

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I just want to hit a button and have it show up.

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Yeah.

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Paying $99 a year or whatever.

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Probably more than that, but whatever it is.

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And we can't just afford to store stuff for free.

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That's taking up space somewhere. Yeah.

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Yeah. I don't know what the price...

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I mean, I think it'd be a little bit of both at first until we found the right mix of

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price and spice.

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Yeah.

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Ideally, it'd just be Amazon Prime style because everybody knows that. But I don't know.

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I think it's per box.

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You'd have to store it. The costs are storage and shipping.

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And hosting and...

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Yep.

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I can't stop thinking about the take a cut to sell it though. You're looking at a catalog of

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all your shit. You say, "You know what? I haven't even pulled that out of the storage unit in two

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years. Let me press one button." The site takes 30%. They list it on Facebook Marketplace for you.

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They do the meetup. They sell it. Man, that's great.

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That's so good.

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They could even... They could do suggestions of like, "Hey, you haven't touched this thing in

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five years."

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Oh, yeah.

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Shit. I shouldn't have pitched this.

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It's so good. It's like writing a check to someone else. No money actually changed hands,

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but you're now the owner of this thing somewhere else.

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Oh, yeah. Because technically, you don't even need to send it to your house. It could just be like...

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No. They just have access to it now in the same storage unit.

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That's great.

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Did I even buy anything?

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It's like NFTs.

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It is.

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Except they actually have something behind it.

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I bought a new computer. I just...

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There's a physical object somewhere.

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I haven't seen it yet.

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And then you built a buying and selling assets tradable commodity market where you can invest

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by buying up all the area snowblowers. And then in three months, you've got them all. You can

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slowly introduce them back out into the market.

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Refurbished, like new.

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It's like how people... There's a whole corn market and stuff, the ETFs, right? People don't

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actually keep the corn in their warehouses. They're just selling pieces of paper that say,

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"This is good for 12 truckloads of corn." Yeah. It's a speculative asset market. I love this.

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Speculative markets with store... What's your store?

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Speculative garage sale.

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Yeah. This is the next level from those storage wars reality shows where they buy a unit.

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You know what's in there. That's great.

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See, that's how you can cut your costs down too. It's like, "Oh, you could get your subscription

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paid for each month by selling stuff through the service or just flat rate." We make some finance

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guy gurus looking at this and saying, "If we store 100,000 pallets, we make actually 10 million a

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year. So just assets under management, baby." That's what they say, I think, in the CFO office.

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And so they're like, "Yeah, just free. Make it free." And then we sell for 100. That's

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the subscription.

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Right.

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Or the old, "How could we commoditize this data?" We know everything that these people own, right? So

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there's your monetization.

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You sell everything that they own to them. "Hey, these guys have a lot of cat accessories,

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Facebook. Now you have that."

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Whoa.

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"MetaQuest 2s are going in storage all over the world. Sell Facebook stock."

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Partner with the insurance industry.

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Boy.

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Yeah.

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When us, this business, has information on all of the stuff that's around these

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clients' houses, that's something.

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It seems good.

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Well, I mean, even just think about how easy it would be to itemize your...

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Whatever you call the list of the stuff that you own.

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You have an insurance claim to make and you've got like, "Oh, well, these were the items that

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I did not have checked in." Right? So like...

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Sure. This is a complete house inventory system.

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You can get a better deal on your insurance depending on how much your stuff is stored

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at this facility.

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If you go around your house with our new app and you note with object recognition and/or

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typing in stuff manually, everything you own, we will even make suggestions on the things that

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make sense to put into storage seasonally. Or you make the walk once a week. Boy, it looks like that

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thing has been sitting on a shelf untouched every week you've walked by for six months.

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Maybe you should put that in storage.

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Doesn't Amazon own Roomba now? Can't they just like put little cameras on there,

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just figure it out on its own with every backseat?

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No joke why I switched away from Roomba. I didn't love the idea of like, "Hey, we noticed

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that there's a new baby crib in your house. Want some new baby accessories? Screw you,

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iRobot."

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God, it's so dystopian.

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Amazon cameras flying around my house feeding back data to the headquarters is a

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real dystopian something, huh?

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You guys need anything? You guys need to store anything? First customers?

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You piloting out your basement?

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I was thinking garage or my trunk of the car, but...

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Captain Leo, what you got this week?

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All right, so this goes along really nicely with the needing to increase organization in my home

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idea. So...

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Storazon.

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Storazon. This is a product that Storazon is going to sell to us. So I have a bookshelf,

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and I don't know if you have seen a collection of children's books altogether, but they're all

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really small, which means that they kind of make a bookshelf look ridiculous. It's so

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overstuffed with a billion books.

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I want to either sell an add-on kit for an existing nice bookshelf or sell a whole bookshelf

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with my product integrated that is an Arduino or some kind of microcontroller on the side.

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It's got a barcode scanner, and it's got some sort of touch screen, simple little interface,

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doesn't need a complicated UI. And then I want to have strips of LEDs and/or presence detection

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that go all along the tops of the shelves. So when I buy a new book or I get gifted a new book,

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I walk up to my little thing and I scan its barcode and I put it anywhere on the shelf.

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And then someday later, when I want to retrieve my book, I walk up to the interface and I say,

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I'm looking for this book, start typing, and it gently lights up roughly the area on the shelf

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where the book went. And either a book is checked in or checked out. I've got a list of all the

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books that I have that are on the shelf itself, but I'm running up against the problem of having

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a disorganized mess of shelves. And I think other people might too. There are book collectors out

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there, I'm sure with their home libraries that have a really big collection. It would be neat

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to be able to say, where did I put the grapes of wrath again? And then just a soft little glow

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over in the top left. Oh, I see it's up on the third shelf there. Let me grab it. And you don't

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need to have it be absolutely precise right on the book, but give me like a hint, because I'm tired

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of rifling through all these little tiny five page children's books trying to figure out where

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the heck that one went. - So a digital Dewey decimal system.

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- Dewey decimal, because it's not perfect, right? - Yeah, but it doesn't even have to be organized.

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It just knows, oh, you put it here somewhere, right? Organize it however you want.

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- There you go. - I want to try to build this so bad.

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It wouldn't be that hard, right? - I've seen a guy do it before with phones.

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So there's this guy on YouTube. He built a shelf system for this guy who has a phone collection.

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He's a reviewer of phones or something. I don't know, but had a whole, you flip through the

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database, select the device you want, and the LEDs fly across and then stop on the one that

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you're looking for. It was pretty cool. - Like a vending machine, but for my own stuff.

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- Yeah. - I need to walk into a library and it needs to

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know what book I want and just guide me there through the lights. I just follow the light.

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- I really like that, actually. Have you guys ever read Ender's Game way back when?

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So you have a bunch of people in a space station that's huge and they don't know where to go,

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and you scan your badge on the side and the floor will light up and take you to where you want to go,

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just a string of LEDs, and you follow your color. Put that in a library and then have it go up to

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the shelf as well. - Every grocery store,

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every bookstore, any store should have that. You have the Meijer or whatever your local grocery

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store is app, and it's guiding you. Yes! - Wow. The thought that this could be in

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a grocery store just- - Why does that exist?

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- I don't know. It took me to another place. Like, that's what-

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(all laughing)

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- We need that. - What does that mean?

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- You give it your 12 things. You give your 12 things to the shopping list and you walk in the

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door and tap your phone to the little pad. - Builds an optimized list.

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- And it just gently guides you to the exact, like, traveling salesman optimized path through

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the store. It doesn't really benefit the store to have you be so laser focused, though. They

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want you to mandor around. - I don't know. Walmart's desperate,

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though. Like, they need help. - Yeah, make it your MVP.

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- Kmart could have used this. They were like, you know, sinking ship. They would have maybe

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survived if they had. - There was a brief moment in time

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where Google and Apple were trying to make Bluetooth beacons a thing where you would walk

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through the physical worlds and little coin-sized Bluetooth emitters would have some sort of unique

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piece of info. So you could have that store or that mall or whatever's app and it would say,

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"Oh, you're near the bananas. They're on sale this week," kind of stuff, right? It seems like

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we were almost there 10 years ago and we totally turned away. Probably privacy concerns.

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- And Bluetooth is just a terrible protocol. - It was too progressive.

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- So is this like searching? I want to find stuff all over my house all the time. Does it have to

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be books? I get the idea. So I guess... - Like a tile tracker, but...

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- I'm a software guy, all right? So 360 camera through the whole house. This is some next level

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shit. Inventory, like... - We last saw the TV remote slide into

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this couch cushion from OCR four hours ago. - Stick RF tags on everything.

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- Roomba does it already, right? We just talked about how Roomba and Amazon already

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figures out what's in your house. Just monetize that. Just inventory everything.

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- I don't know. I kind of like the idea of being able to put in some cheap

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vinyl that has LEDs built into it and my house can guide me to... I guess the only example I can come

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up with is the remote, like you said. - It's 2 AM and the dotted light

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in my drunk ass is guiding me to the bathroom. - I mean, like the amount of times where I've

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been like, "Where did I set my phone down? Where did I..."

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- "Hey Google, find my ex." - It's like airplane or theater

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emergency exit lighting dotting the floor. - What's cool about it is it's not super

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specific. So it's just like, it's in the bedroom. It's got a pissy kind of like,

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you dumb ass tone to it to really send a message home.

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But like that would be convenient. Like, thank you.

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- Slightly exasperated with you. - Again, you left it on the counter.

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You put your car keys in the freezer again, dumbass.

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- Why does the freezer let me is really the question.

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- New product, new week. - A freezer that's bitchy?

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- No, it just has a metal detector on it. - There you go.

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- So this is like, do you have a big bookshelf, Leo? Or like, are you just, this is like LED?

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- No, that's my problem. I have a pretty small bookshelf and I need a bookshelf that's bigger.

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And so we have books on the shelf and spilling out of the shelf and on top of the shelf in piles.

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It's not like we have thousands of books, but children's books are just irregular. Some of

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them are cardboard books, and some of them are like five pages, and some of them are thicker,

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heavy, hardcover things. And because you're trying to stick them all on the shelf together,

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most of them are too small to be obvious from the side what they are. If I'm putting War and

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Peace on my shelf, it's pretty obvious what that is from the side, but these little tiny

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six page books, not so much. - Dude, it's such a huge problem.

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And then the kid is, my kid at least, will cry now until he gets the book.

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- Yeah, that's the thing. The four-year-old will come to me and say, "Can we read this?"

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And I just feel the dread in my heart. "Oh, okay, let's go find it." I'm sure mom knows exactly

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where that is. Nope, not me. This is going to be a 10 minute treasure hunt that you and I are going

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on, bud. - Yep, and bedtimes,

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we're already 10 minutes late. It's just like... - You're angry, you're exhausted. Yeah.

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- Yeah, exactly. - Could you take a picture of your

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bookshelf, Leo, and then process it? Could you Google Lens this shit, where you just like,

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"All right, here's my bookshelf, click." It scans all the book titles, guesses,

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it knows all the page sizes, it knows all the books and says, "Oh, this book is normally eight

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inches tall, this wide. Here are the 30 books that match this description."

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- That's interesting. Yeah. Based off of Amazon product listings and stuff, I'm sure that those

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rough numbers are... Yeah, yeah. - Dude, yes, Amazon would love that.

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They get a picture of your bookshelf, they know what you want, they know what you read,

430
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and then they make recommendations on the sidebar after you're done scanning. "We found your book.

431
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,280
Did you think about these three books, are there two?"

432
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:23,160
- Did you know there's a sequel? Yeah, right. - Now we have a monetization method.

433
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:29,080
I really like that though, like an IoT LED strip that you have just in front of each of your

434
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:34,680
bookshelves, and then whether it's Amazon controlling it or your own app, like what you

435
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:39,000
were talking about, either way it can light up and tell you. - The original MVP of this is something

436
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:44,200
that I think someone out there could build because it's really simple. It just needs to remember

437
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:49,240
this number, light up LED number 61 over down in a corner. Got it.

438
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:53,320
- I just feel like there's so many applications to this too.

439
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:59,240
- Yeah, yeah. It could be your shelf in your garage filled with screws on your tool bench.

440
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:04,280
Where is the 12 millimeter whatever? Because I've got 600 kinds of screws I'm looking at

441
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:09,240
in little tiny buckets. Oh, right over here. - Pantry for you put in a recipe,

442
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:13,080
and it'll light up all the different spots that you have to go grab stuff from.

443
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:17,400
- That's a good one. I want to make this tonight. - You want to dig around for cumin?

444
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,160
- Right. - Everything lights up.

445
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:24,600
- Dude, Alex with the curve balls up in here. All right. That's amazing.

446
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:28,760
- That is amazing. - I want chicken pot pie. Send it.

447
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:34,760
- I'm sorry, you don't have peas. - Put it on your, like a liquor shelf

448
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:39,320
or something and just, I want to make, you know, mojitos tonight and just boom,

449
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,720
everything lights up. - Yeah, right. It's got your

450
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:46,120
cocktail bar area. It's got, oh, and if you put the lights under the liquors, then they all light

451
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:50,120
up like you're at a fancy bar. There you go. - But I have booze all over my house. So like...

452
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,880
- Your whole house lights up, man. - Alcoholic mode.

453
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:58,440
- Maybe you have to add a chime too, just so you can like, where in the house is it?

454
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:03,800
- It's a little puck that goes on the bottom of the bottle that lights it up beautifully. And yeah,

455
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:08,280
it's like an air tag. Yeah, there you go. - Also, if it moves, I want to hear a chime.

456
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:14,920
- Find my vermouth. - Google, where's my vodka?

457
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:24,760
- All right, Scott, what wholesome family-friendly organizational product have you brought this

458
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,720
to? - I wish. So pretty early on,

459
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:32,440
we had done a motivational app that we talked about, and I want to take that to the next level

460
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:38,600
here. I want to make an app and I want to call it not mutually assured destruction, but mutually

461
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:45,640
assured dedication. And so how it works is you have a group of people, and let's say we have a

462
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:51,320
group of guys and we all want to start working out. Like we just all want to get in shape. And

463
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:56,680
so we'll say the four of us here, we're all going to contribute to a pot. We'll say whatever amount

464
00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:04,120
that would make you upset if you lost it, $100, $1,000, whatever. And if any of us does not

465
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:10,760
complete our goal for that week, all of us lose the money. There is nothing more motivating than

466
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:15,480
people breathing down your neck being like, "Hey, did you work out this week? Did you complete your

467
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:20,760
goal? Did you check that box?" It's not just me fighting me at this point. It's me fighting all

468
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:27,080
of you guys. It's not competition. It's you guys getting your ass in here as well as mine.

469
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,120
- That's brutal. - Oh, nice.

470
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,600
- Yes. I don't care what you're using this for. It's working out. It's trying to quit smoking,

471
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:38,760
whatever. You're assigned an account to Billabuddy. As soon as you log into this app,

472
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:44,280
you set your money off to the side. You have to complete your task. Otherwise, everyone loses.

473
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:52,120
- I have a philosophical question about this. So is it more motivating for everyone to keep each

474
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:59,720
other accountable if you can see who has and has not yet completed for this week, or if it's hidden?

475
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,120
- Ooh. - And it's terrifying to not know

476
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,040
who's done it yet or not. - I'd definitely hit it.

477
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,000
- Oh, gosh. - Yeah. You cannot, in your mind,

478
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:11,640
be the person to fail. I do not want to fail my friends. The embarrassment would just kill me here.

479
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,920
That's a great question. - There's arguments either way, right?

480
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,120
Because if you're the only one left and it's halfway through the week, like, "Come on,

481
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:23,160
just finish off the week. We're all done already," right? But then if nobody can see where anyone is.

482
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:29,480
- I mean, you would just start conversations. This is life or death at this point. One of

483
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:34,760
those games, like, "I'm going to lose $1,000." Or like $500.

484
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:40,040
- I feel like, so when you're eight hours out from the deadline for that week, month, whatever,

485
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:44,280
you got to start a countdown time. And that's like one person, two people still haven't completed

486
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:45,640
their thing. - Oh, that's good. Yeah. You know if it's you.

487
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,640
- Anonymous. Yeah. - That's a great idea.

488
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,880
- Exactly. - Dude, I think the scariest part is like

489
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:56,600
somebody not logging into the app and checking the box or something. Because I feel like it's like,

490
00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:01,880
"You did it, but you didn't check the f***ing box. Get your f***ing ass into the app."

491
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:06,760
- If I had that much money in the line, I would drive to your door and I would be banging on it

492
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:11,640
at your house being like, "Russell, work out." Or whatever. "I will move your legs, you m****."

493
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:21,160
- "I went camping and had no service." - "I will buy you a phone, you piece of s***."

494
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:29,960
- Oh, that is, I think what sucks up, what's more motivating about that is not,

495
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:35,000
it's the fact that you are letting three other people experience failure.

496
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:35,880
- Exactly. - Yeah.

497
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,880
- And however many. - It's not like self-accountability.

498
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:43,880
- So, here's a question is if everybody loses, where does the money go?

499
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:50,840
- The company. That's your business model. - So, what's in it for them? Is there a reward

500
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,640
if everybody completes it? You get your money back plus?

501
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:59,720
- No, there's no reward. It's just not being embarrassed is your reward. Not being shunned

502
00:35:59,720 --> 00:36:04,600
by your friends. And that is motivation enough. Into your question about the money, just,

503
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:09,000
I don't know, pick the most likely political affiliation with your group and send it to

504
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,440
the opposite party or something. I don't know. - That's a fun idea.

505
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:19,160
- Give you even more incentive to... - Pick from this list of most divisive

506
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,000
political organizations or whatever. Yeah. The NRA.

507
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:24,360
- Us. - PETA.

508
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,560
- The company. - It can't be going towards something you

509
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:28,680
want. - Right, exactly.

510
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:33,560
- Like, I can't be to harbor humane or puppies can't get this money. No, it's got to be something

511
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:40,040
bad. Or heck, just put in a shredder. - Dude, just make the app call it...

512
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,960
- We're solving inflation too. - You got to call it putting it in the

513
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,160
shredder, but really, I think that's your business model, man. You just collect all

514
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:52,280
the unpaid payments and you've built an app. - Don't make me rich. Don't make me rich. And

515
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:56,360
it's all about other people betting to not make you rich. It's just...

516
00:36:56,360 --> 00:37:01,880
- Yeah. Isn't there a, I think it's Fox Sports has the win so-and-so's money.

517
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,040
- Yeah, I was thinking, yeah. - Something new.

518
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:08,840
- With Ben Stein's money. - But you can have a mascot that's like,

519
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:15,080
don't let the hamster guy steal your group's money or whatever. And he can be the embodiment

520
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,280
of the thing you don't want to get, but really that's just like your business revenue.

521
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:26,200
- Yes. That sounds like fun. I swear, I feel like the social loss, whether it's money or not,

522
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:31,160
it's just like, oh, I just made Leo spend $500 because I...

523
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:37,000
- We had talked about before, like making it a competition, or a step bed or whatever. I want

524
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:41,480
to beat out all my friends. No, embarrassment is stronger than competition.

525
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:45,800
- This is an upgrade. This is the first sequel 2.0 we've ever had on the show.

526
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,520
- 2.0. - Okay, other than working out,

527
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:53,400
what would you use this for? - Trying to quit smoking, cooking during a week.

528
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,640
- Any bad habits? - I guess so.

529
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,440
- Any bad habits. - Trying to get outside at least once a day.

530
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:02,520
- It's simple. I feel like it would be easy to do an MVP for.

531
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:06,840
- Yeah, with like Stripe and some other kits and stuff, it wouldn't be that hard to get up

532
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,720
and running with this. You could even just have it be a web app. It doesn't even have to be like

533
00:38:09,720 --> 00:38:14,840
a native app. - I feel like a lot of friends might be lost by this app, but you can't make it too

534
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:19,480
easy though. You got to actually put the fear of God into them that your friends are going to lose

535
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,000
their money. - That's where the money goes.

536
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,800
- Truly in deep losing. - Is we hire a bunch of auditors.

537
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:29,320
- I don't know. You don't look like you've been working out.

538
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:33,240
- Your money pays for our auditors. - You don't look like you've been working out.

539
00:38:33,240 --> 00:38:37,480
- I sit in a sauna, all right? It's a middle ground.

540
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:44,120
- We're going to need a blood sample. - We see your testosterone's level on this

541
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:48,680
data. It's more than just working out, but yes. - All right, here's a curve ball.

542
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:55,800
So what if you challenged, what if you made like a challenge, a blank mystery box challenge,

543
00:38:55,800 --> 00:39:04,280
this week only, accept or deny $50 mystery challenge. I sent it to you and Leo,

544
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:10,840
and you either join the challenge or you don't. And then you click accept or deny. It's like truth

545
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:16,200
or dare, but challenge. So it's like bet, but next level. It's like-

546
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:20,120
- You know what the challenge is though, right? - We have no idea what the challenge is. It's just

547
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:24,600
Scott is going to challenge me to do a freaking workout event. I know him. He's always going to

548
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:30,120
do that. So I'm going to accept. It's easy. - So if I accept the challenge, I get the money.

549
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,720
And if I don't fulfill the challenge, I have to pay?

550
00:39:33,720 --> 00:39:36,920
- Oh, there needs to be a reward. - Do you have to buy in?

551
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,560
- I didn't think that hard. - Probably.

552
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:43,800
- I just want Russell to lose $50. - I don't know the idea of like getting

553
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:52,520
a challenge in my app and being like, "Ooh, a $50 challenge." I guess it doesn't really-

554
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:59,480
- Do you remember the rule? No, we got this. Do you remember the feeling of sitting in a public

555
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,560
place when HQ Trivia was going? - Yes.

556
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:07,480
- How communal that felt? You could have the moment of like, "Oh God, the betting app challenge of the

557
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:12,040
day just dropped. You all in? Let's all do this together. Let's get everyone doing it." We accept,

558
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:16,280
"Oh no, we have to take a photo on top of a mountain. We only have a day to do that."

559
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:24,520
- Print a mountain on a piece of paper, right? - So you have your pot of money. All four of us

560
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:31,240
have put in, we'll just say $1,000 into this pot, right? If one of us fails, I have failed to,

561
00:40:31,240 --> 00:40:35,400
we'll go back to the workout example, I failed to work out this week, the money doesn't just

562
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:42,120
disappear. It all gets put on some Vegas bet on black or something automatically.

563
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:47,880
And there's like a 50/50 chance that the money's going to double for everyone else

564
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:53,400
or just disappear completely. - Hey, you just get freaking casinos

565
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:59,400
on board, but it's self-reporting. I guess it doesn't really win or lose for them. They're

566
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,280
just like literally betting a thousand. They're either going to make a thousand dollars.

567
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,560
- Yeah, that's what I was wondering. Is there something that this app could do that's a little

568
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:11,400
bit novel where you can't, like, I know it would be handy to have the, I've checked the box and I

569
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:17,080
promise for sure I did go skiing, like I said, I would or whatever, but is there something that we

570
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:24,920
could have the challenge be that is actually like, you know, go to a place or present to your phone's

571
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:30,280
camera a thing that's unique that you did or something to prove, like even people could vote

572
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:35,640
yes or no, this counts as they visited a historical tour, you know what I mean?

573
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:41,880
- Yeah, do a photo or video and crowdsource the validity.

574
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:45,800
- Right, does this count as a piece of art, like they said they wanted to make?

575
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:52,760
- That's true. Me and some friends were talking about, we need to go see the doctor. We're adult

576
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:57,880
men. We should be seeing the doctor regularly. - Your doctor has to sign it.

577
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:02,840
- You have to have a doctor's note. - You gotta get a selfie with the doctor.

578
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:06,120
- That's great. - This audit team is

579
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,200
going to need a huge budget. - Right.

580
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:13,240
- I was more thinking along the lines of accountability buddies or someone,

581
00:42:13,240 --> 00:42:17,800
you have one person who verifies yes or no, but you're right. They can't have skin in the game

582
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:22,600
'cause Russell's not gonna wanna lose all his money by saying no to me.

583
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:28,680
- What if you like, at any random point, you could hire an auditor, like to Alex's point,

584
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:33,640
like it's the micro transactions that make the money. It's like, you get a third party certifier

585
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:40,600
and it's just some other dude on the app just look like, some guy's just like, yeah, I love this app.

586
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:47,320
I just certified the most random bets ever. So I need the evidence.

587
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:51,800
- Somebody nearby needs you to- - Yeah.

588
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:53,800
- It's like cha-cha. - The app platform.

589
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,760
- Yeah. - I love that.

590
00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:01,400
For a few bucks, you can do, what is the mechanical Turk, like the Amazon small,

591
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:05,400
you get a few pennies to verify this at the other. If you wanna make a couple bucks on it

592
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:09,640
some evening, you can be the third party referee for some of the friends groups bet.

593
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,440
- Or just have another group actually verify yours.

594
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:16,120
- Yeah. Yeah, you check each other's, that's fun.

595
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:19,720
- 'Cause I have no, I don't give a shit if this other group fails or not, but-

596
00:43:19,720 --> 00:43:25,080
- Does this count as pursuing their passion of wanting to do pottery?

597
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,880
That isn't pottery, you just played with Play-Doh, right? Yeah.

598
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,840
- Bought from Goodwill, uncheck.

599
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:41,560
All right, Alex, what is an idea you would love to do, but just haven't had time for?

600
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:48,760
- All right, so this is something that I feel like exists in part. I just want something

601
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:57,480
that brings us all together. I have the worst time keeping track of my life, right? So what

602
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:05,160
I would really like is, basically what I need is a personal assistant that's with me 24/7

603
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:12,760
that can be like, "Hey, you said that you wanna go to sleep by 10 o'clock every night. You're

604
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:18,200
still active, you're still playing video games, you're still," you know, whatever, right? I know

605
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:23,720
you can actually hire a personal assistant that will help manage your life, but there's no way

606
00:44:23,720 --> 00:44:31,000
I could ever afford that. I've tried using Siri or whatever, right? But they don't have that hold.

607
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:35,400
I don't know, it even comes down to like little things, like I need something that can wake me up

608
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:41,160
in the morning that's not an alarm because that's gonna wake my wife up. To me, I need something on

609
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:46,600
my wrist that will like, it will ask me before I go to bed, like, "Hey, do you have to work tomorrow

610
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:51,960
because I'll change your alarm time," or something. I don't know, like this whole idea of like

611
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:58,280
something to help me manage my life, remind me of my projects that I'm wanting to get to,

612
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,440
all that kind of stuff. - Okay.

613
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:05,720
In 2012, 2013, Google pushed really hard for what they then called Google Now,

614
00:45:05,720 --> 00:45:10,440
and they've pivoted away from that in favor of the assistant, and now they're pivoting away from the

615
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:18,440
assistant in favor of Bard. So this is several ADD Google iterations ago, but the idea was you would

616
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:26,680
land from a flight and it would say, "Hey, here's where your hotel is." You would arrive in a new

617
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:31,640
time zone and it would say, "Hey, we've updated all this stuff for you." It was the first really

618
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:37,000
foray into like putting information in front of you before you ask for it. Ambient computing,

619
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:42,920
they called it at the time. And I feel like we never really got there to like the promise of

620
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:46,680
computers that present me information without me asking.

621
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:50,840
- I feel like we're almost there with AI, right? - Some general AI.

622
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:56,440
- Why can't I take a chat GPT, train it on my personal life, feed it my calendar,

623
00:45:56,440 --> 00:46:02,680
feed it my project list, give it my access to my smart devices so that it can yell at me?

624
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:09,800
- Yeah. Like holidays, dude, are the worst because it's like three-day holiday where you're just

625
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:15,240
like, "Oh, I guess we're taking this day off." It just out of nowhere throws me off. It's like,

626
00:46:15,240 --> 00:46:20,520
"Okay, well, all the stores are closed. I got to set my alarm differently. Should I turn off my

627
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:26,120
Slack, like my email signature?" There's like 30 things that I should or could do that would make

628
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:32,280
me look really professional or like probably make my life a little bit more what I would like it to

629
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:37,320
be. But I don't want to do all like 30 little things for 10 minutes. I'd rather just like,

630
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:45,720
"Yo, personal assistant, what questions do you have to get my life in order?" I get it. Makes sense.

631
00:46:45,720 --> 00:46:52,200
- I was at a guy's weekend and I missed a call from the trash company saying, "Hey, just so you

632
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:59,400
know, MLK Day is coming up and we're not celebrating it and we're doing the normal route." And sure

633
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:04,840
enough, I didn't get the call. And then my trash day is on a Tuesday, Monday night, like, "Oh,

634
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:08,280
it's a holiday. So everything's probably off by a day." And I didn't put everything out. And then

635
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:14,280
that next morning, I heard the sound and had that panic moment of running out in shorts and Crocs,

636
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:18,520
running to get a trash bin to the end of the street because, oh man.

637
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,200
- I've never done that before.

638
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:26,200
- They're coming after all. And I didn't know. Nowhere other than a missed call was that

639
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:32,280
anywhere presented to me. And businesses who have information like that, that I am a customer of,

640
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:37,480
need to be able to get that in front of me in a more, I don't know, instead of just calling me,

641
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:41,640
it should just be on a display in my house. There's so many displays in my house.

642
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:48,600
- I mean, even if you think about it, you have a device on your wrist that knows when you're

643
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:55,080
active and stuff. Why can't we detect when you've taken out the trash? So it can give it access to

644
00:47:55,080 --> 00:48:01,960
your voicemail and it can be like, "Oh, hey, they said that they're gonna be on normal schedule and

645
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,360
you haven't taken out the trash yet. I'm gonna remind you."

646
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,880
- Why can't the UPS truck that drove by that day not tell me?

647
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:11,560
- This was a Black Mirror episode, right?

648
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,280
- Oh, I'm sure it is. Yeah.

649
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:19,640
- They took like an imprint of your brain and then made it into its own AI that was tailored

650
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:25,320
to you 'cause it was you. And then it knew your preferences for how you liked your toast in the

651
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:30,760
morning or how you wanted to clean up your email inbox or whatever. And the whole dystopian,

652
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:35,560
it was trapped and it was you trapped in a computer helping yourself through stuff. But

653
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:37,080
the concept of it is awesome.

654
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:41,000
- So cool. So you're saying you would indeed enslave a digital version of yourself

655
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:42,600
to be your own assistant?

656
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:43,640
- Oh yeah. Yeah.

657
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:45,640
- 100%, no thought.

658
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:47,160
- Oh my God.

659
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:53,400
- If it would actually get me to get stuff done, that's my biggest thing is I always

660
00:48:53,400 --> 00:49:00,040
forget the things that I need to do, no matter how I try to put it on a calendar or...

661
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:05,960
- OpenAI and Chachibitty caught Google on their back foot and their whole counter-argument

662
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:11,480
to OpenAI is, "Hey, we're gonna be able to take all the stuff that we know about you and put it

663
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:16,440
in there." So there's a chance that Google's working toward this vision of I go to Bard and I

664
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:24,920
say, "Hey, tell me the last four family members that emailed me and give me some starter points

665
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:29,880
as to what I should ask them about for how their day is going," or whatever. And it's looking

666
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:34,280
through your email and your calendar and, "Oh, I know in your contacts you have their birthdays,

667
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:38,840
this, their birthdays coming up," all the stuff that Google knows about you,

668
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:40,920
but thrown into a LLM blender.

669
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:51,000
- That already happens with companies at CRMs. It's just the personal CRM plus, right? Why not

670
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:57,000
just do that? Just take... I mean, there are thousands of CRMs all thinking about all these

671
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:03,880
things, but not to maybe the personal version, right? It's always company-centric. It's never

672
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:07,960
like me-centric. That makes sense? There should be a personal.

673
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:09,240
- It's gonna be wild.

674
00:50:09,240 --> 00:50:15,400
- Yeah. Like, "Hey, you probably should send a letter to this person." Or like, "Hey,

675
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:19,160
you haven't talked to this person in a long time and you talk to them all the time.

676
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:26,040
Is there a reason why? No. Okay, we're gonna send you this text. How's that sound? Okay."

677
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,040
(laughter)

678
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:29,480
- That's a great idea.

679
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:34,520
- Their CRM is taking in all of their incoming messages and filtering them down to a nice

680
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:40,360
little summary for you. And soon the internet is just bots talking to bots and summarizing

681
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:41,160
and expanding.

682
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:47,240
- But how great would it be if you didn't have to open your email? Your personal assistant could

683
00:50:47,240 --> 00:50:54,040
say, "Hey, you got 27 emails. Only three of them actually have any content in them. Here's what

684
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:54,920
they are." Right?

685
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:55,720
- The dream.

686
00:50:55,720 --> 00:50:59,400
- Like a really involved mother. Like, "Oh, you-

687
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:00,360
- Pretty much, yeah.

688
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:04,600
- "You haven't talked to your best friend in a while. I'm gonna just- Here, give me your phone.

689
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:09,480
I'll send them a text message and we'll set up a play date. I mean, you guys can go hang out."

690
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:10,360
Right? Like-

691
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:11,960
- A play date?

692
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:12,520
- Just-

693
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:13,800
- A play date?

694
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:14,760
- Yeah, this is Wally.

695
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:18,040
- "You told me you were going to clean your room. Have you done that yet?"

696
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:19,800
- "Thanks, mom. You're right."

697
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:21,880
- "But seriously, I need that."

698
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:26,040
- There's something about- I wonder if this is just four dudes in a room talking about-

699
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:27,400
- "I was just gonna say that."

700
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:33,240
"I think the problem is our lack of female representation on the show."

701
00:51:33,240 --> 00:51:37,480
- I'll be honest. When has that ever been a problem in history?

702
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:43,800
- I talk about this all the time. Like, my wife is my social assist- She's my social manager. So,

703
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:48,760
literally, every social event that I coordinate with friends, I have to go through my social

704
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:55,400
assistant. Because there's so many calendar events going on. I'm like, "I can't overbook.

705
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:59,400
I can't overbook." Just a little bit of that so that I don't have to-

706
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:00,280
- How does she manage it all?

707
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:03,720
- That's a great- It's a two X chromosomes.

708
00:52:03,720 --> 00:52:08,200
- Is it in her head? Does she put it into a calendar somewhere or notes or something?

709
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:15,080
- She started putting it into a calendar for me because literally, she can handle-

710
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:19,240
She knows all the things, but she's like, "Russell's not gonna do this unless I put it

711
00:52:19,240 --> 00:52:23,960
in his Google Calendar so that it shows up throughout his day." So, literally, I'll have

712
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:28,600
an event next week and I'm like, "Oh, Carrie's getting a massage at four o'clock. I should

713
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:35,000
probably be home." I'm like, "I guess it's happening." I'm out of office that week and

714
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:36,920
yeah, it's literally- - Wow.

715
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:44,280
- I have- I guess, Alex, I already have one. I really-

716
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:45,160
- Well, see- - Yeah.

717
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:48,760
- See, that's the thing is I can't ask my wife to be this for me, right?

718
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:50,680
- No. - I can't put this on her.

719
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:52,920
- We were just talking about how it's an overbearing mother.

720
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:54,840
- I know. - That's what our wives all

721
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:59,320
want to be compared to. - It makes me second guess myself.

722
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:06,440
Maybe I'm putting too much on my non-virtual assistants. I need to be helping her in a

723
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:10,920
digital way. I can solve this with technology. Is what you're saying, Alex? Is that this?

724
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:15,640
- I would hope so. I mean, I feel like we've got to be close. The reason why I think I

725
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:23,320
struggle with this particularly is my ADHD. I've looked into ADHD assistants and stuff

726
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:29,080
and there's people working on them. The people that really need this are the people with ADHD

727
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:32,760
and so they're the ones that have this idea to build this thing and then they never get

728
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:38,200
around to finishing it. That's my problem too, right? I never finish anything because-

729
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:45,480
- Preach your brother. - I mean, I've even tried, they have apps

730
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:52,440
for kids that are routine builders, right? I've literally tried this app that is meant

731
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:57,400
for children that goes through and it's like, "You have five minutes to brush your teeth

732
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:03,240
and if you don't finish it, you have to either swipe it or away to do it later or it will

733
00:54:03,240 --> 00:54:07,640
only let you do a couple things. You can't just swipe your whole thing away." Then every

734
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:12,920
time you go beyond your time, it automatically adjusts the rest of your schedule for the

735
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:14,040
morning or whatever. - It's pesting you.

736
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:18,520
- Whoa. - But the problem is I don't have a routine.

737
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:23,320
I'm not a kid that goes to school at a certain time every day and building routines is a

738
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:27,640
really hard thing for people who have ADHD to handle, right?

739
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:33,560
- Dude, I'm going to add onto this, Alex, in a weird way, but I don't know if every

740
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:40,120
dude in this podcast or in general has this morning routine element where you sit on the

741
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:46,680
porcelain throne for just a good couple minutes. What if it knew?

742
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:51,720
And it asks you- - What?

743
00:54:51,720 --> 00:54:54,120
- It asks you- - My bidet has a camera,

744
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:57,560
is that what you're saying? - No, it asks you five questions.

745
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:01,560
Like, "Oh, we noticed that you're sitting on the toilet. Would you like to answer

746
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:05,720
some five questions about your week before-" - What's talking to you right now?

747
00:55:05,720 --> 00:55:09,880
What is the thing that speaks? Is it the toilet? I got to know.

748
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:18,360
- I mean, okay, let's say for you hardware guys, we put a Bluetooth device in the toilet. So as

749
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:23,960
soon as you connect to Bluetooth to the toilet, it immediately asks you five questions about,

750
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:28,920
"Did you know it's Martin Luther King Day next Monday? Would you like to change your count?"

751
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:35,640
Like, it just asks you five quick questions, not intrusive, not trying to ruin your experience here,

752
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:36,360
but- - No, man,

753
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:40,440
my toilet is my private time. - The virtual assistant needs to take

754
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:48,120
a moment of time that you definitely have, but choose to take on your own. And I think that best

755
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:53,160
time is when you're sitting, like right when you sit down, it asks you three or four questions

756
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:54,600
about your week. - Like what?

757
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:58,280
- Maybe once a week, not every time. - What information does it need?

758
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:00,920
What does it ask? - Just whatever information

759
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:02,040
it's missing at that time. - Yes.

760
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:06,360
- Like what? - It can see on your calendar that you've got

761
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:12,520
all day event on Thursday and Friday. So it says, "Do you want me to change your alarm so that you're

762
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:17,720
not waking up at 5 a.m. while you're gone?" - A couple of quick questions to learn your

763
00:56:17,720 --> 00:56:24,840
habits so that it can do better in the future. - Yes, one porcelain thrown time at a time.

764
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,880
Small little props, like not trying to be intrusive, but-

765
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:32,440
- Three minutes every day at the same time. - Like the Google Maps ones. "Hey,

766
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:35,720
where is the entrance to this place?" - It can just pop up when it notices

767
00:56:35,720 --> 00:56:38,200
some idle activity and say, "Hey, you got a minute?"

768
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:40,600
- Yeah. - Can I ask you a few questions?

769
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:44,280
- "Do you have plans this weekend or are you going to be sitting at home by yourself?"

770
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:51,240
- It just judges you for three minutes a day. - You haven't talked to that person in a while.

771
00:56:51,240 --> 00:56:54,200
- That's it. Try calling your mother.

772
00:56:54,200 --> 00:57:01,160
- Maybe that's the app. It's paid for by mothers. It just encourages to call your family

773
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:04,200
every weekend. - Oh, yeah. Yeah.

774
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:06,520
- There you go. - If you're listening to this podcast,

775
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:10,600
you should probably call your mother right now or just highly recommend it.

776
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:14,920
- I mean, it is going to be Mother's Day pretty soon here, right? So-

777
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:20,360
- That's right. - That's the kind of public service

778
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:24,360
that this podcast performs for you. Don't forget to get something for your mom for Mother's Day.

779
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:30,200
- Dude, but what if you set this goal in your app? Like, "Hey, I have some goals this year,"

780
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:35,720
or like right now, I'll type into my app and then it would just be like, "You might have some free

781
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:41,960
time this weekend," or, "Hey, Thursday nights, you seem to be bored or you don't have anything.

782
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:46,280
Maybe we'll drop a hint like, "Draw." - Yeah.

783
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:48,120
- Somebody that would, yeah. - Yeah.

784
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:53,240
- "We're going to wake you up early tomorrow, all right? Let's get you going." Something like that.

785
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:57,800
Little encouragements. - You can go to the gym tomorrow. Yeah.

786
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:03,880
- "You went to bed early, we're going to wake you up early." You can always hit snooze or whatever.

787
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:10,040
- Or like, "Hey, you haven't gotten a full eight hours all week, so I'm going to let you sleep in."

788
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:13,160
- Whoa, that's a good one. - Me and Leo are like, "That's..."

789
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,160
- Yeah, you would say that. - Yeah.

790
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:19,080
- Yeah, spoken like a true no kid household. - Wow, yeah.

791
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:25,880
- "Hey, I have a dog that will wake us up at like 7 a.m. if we don't get up and let her out to give

792
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:32,040
her breakfast." So she stomps in her crate. - I bet OpenAI comes out with one of this.

793
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:35,000
You know, like, there's a... - Oh, I know. I'm sure we're like...

794
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:40,840
We got to be like within a couple years of the personal assistant that just...

795
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:46,920
- Yeah. It seems like where they're headed with the MyGPT's infrastructure, you could have one

796
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:52,200
that's trained specifically on... You just Hoover up all of your email, all of your calendar,

797
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:54,360
all of that stuff. - I mean, Microsoft is kind of doing

798
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:57,800
that at a company level, aren't they? With Copilot. So...

799
00:58:57,800 --> 00:58:59,160
- Yeah. - Yeah, I bet.

800
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:01,800
- Just got an ad on my Microsoft PC. - It's pretty on-device still.

801
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:07,000
- Like, Copilot. Like, this is an ad-free experience, I thought.

802
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:09,720
- Oh, no. - Nope. Windows gives ads now.

803
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:14,760
Like, just Windows computer. - Did you not see Candy Crush?

804
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:21,960
And the Bing search area and stuff? Oh, yeah. Microsoft... Windows has been compromised.

805
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:28,600
- My favorite thing is today I downloaded Chrome from Edge. And it's like, "Are you sure?"

806
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:32,440
- "What are you doing? Don't do that." - "You don't need another browser."

807
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:35,480
- Edge really... - Nothing is thirstier than

808
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:37,880
Microsoft watching you download a different browser.

809
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:40,280
- Isn't that just, like, embarrassing? Like, it's almost like...

810
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:46,840
We know you're on Chrome. We know what our browser is for. It's to download Chrome. But, like,

811
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:50,200
can you just... We're gonna try. - It's like... It was like,

812
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:54,040
Edge is based on the same thing as Chrome. Plus, you get the benefit of...

813
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:56,120
- But with the added trust of Microsoft. - The added trust.

814
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:59,960
- There's a... That whole... It says, yeah... - Oh, yeah.

815
00:59:59,960 --> 01:00:04,760
- "Microsoft Edge is built on the same technology as Chrome, but with the added trust of Microsoft."

816
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:09,240
And the Linux memes subreddits had a field day with that wording here.

817
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:13,560
- What? Wow. - Thanks so much for listening.

818
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:16,840
We hope you enjoyed yourself. And thank you, Alex, for being here. This was a great time.

819
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:21,080
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820
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:26,120
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821
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822
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