1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,580 (upbeat music) 2 00:00:02,580 --> 00:00:05,960 - I'm Scott. 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:06,880 - I'm Russell. 4 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:07,720 - I'm Leo. 5 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:08,540 This is Spitball. 6 00:00:08,540 --> 00:00:11,120 (upbeat music) 7 00:00:11,120 --> 00:00:19,200 Welcome to Spitball, the Pitchin' Kitchen. 8 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:21,680 We're three digital dreamers, that's us. 9 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,400 Empty our heads of startup and tech product ideas 10 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:25,320 that we have stuck up in there 11 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:27,160 so you can all have them for free. 12 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:29,120 Anything that we say is yours to keep. 13 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:30,720 And Scott, you brought our guest this week, right? 14 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:31,640 - I did. 15 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:35,400 I actually brought my boss and long-time friend, Kyle. 16 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:36,240 - Oh, that's awkward. 17 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:38,040 - Kyle's, I know, right? 18 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:38,880 No. 19 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:39,920 Kyle's an electrical engineer. 20 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:41,440 He's the manager of my team. 21 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:45,060 He's always coming up with cool hardware designs and ideas. 22 00:00:45,060 --> 00:00:46,640 And I think he would be perfect for this. 23 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:47,760 So welcome, Kyle. 24 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:48,680 - Welcome, Kyle. 25 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:49,880 - Yeah, thanks for having me. 26 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:51,000 - We're so glad you're here. 27 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:51,840 This is gonna be fun. 28 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,320 We are starting off today with another this or that game. 29 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:56,640 So today we're gonna be playing Array of Tongues. 30 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:57,460 I don't know if you know this. 31 00:00:57,460 --> 00:00:59,820 There's like hundreds and hundreds and hundreds 32 00:00:59,820 --> 00:01:02,900 of languages, world languages around the world. 33 00:01:02,900 --> 00:01:05,780 Some of them are pretty obscure. 34 00:01:05,780 --> 00:01:07,900 You definitely have not heard of most of them. 35 00:01:07,900 --> 00:01:12,700 And that goes for both like spoken or written language 36 00:01:12,700 --> 00:01:14,500 as well as programming languages. 37 00:01:14,500 --> 00:01:16,620 So I'm gonna go down the line here one at a time. 38 00:01:16,620 --> 00:01:17,620 And you have to tell me if something 39 00:01:17,620 --> 00:01:20,340 is either a world language that somebody speaks or writes, 40 00:01:20,340 --> 00:01:21,900 or if it's a programming language 41 00:01:21,900 --> 00:01:23,980 that someone writes code in for a computer. 42 00:01:23,980 --> 00:01:26,740 And Kyle, we gotta start with you, our guest, of course. 43 00:01:26,740 --> 00:01:31,740 Tell me, starting off here, we've got Vellato, V-E-L-A-T-O. 44 00:01:31,740 --> 00:01:34,540 Is that a programming language or a world language? 45 00:01:34,540 --> 00:01:35,980 - That one sounds like a world language 46 00:01:35,980 --> 00:01:38,780 from like some obscure island. 47 00:01:38,780 --> 00:01:39,620 - It does. 48 00:01:39,620 --> 00:01:42,460 It's actually a MIDI music file language 49 00:01:42,460 --> 00:01:45,060 where you can define pitches in orders of notes. 50 00:01:45,060 --> 00:01:47,100 - All right, Kyle's gone here. 51 00:01:47,100 --> 00:01:48,660 Every single one of these games, Leo, 52 00:01:48,660 --> 00:01:49,940 I'm like, I'm gonna be good at this. 53 00:01:49,940 --> 00:01:50,820 I will get this. 54 00:01:50,820 --> 00:01:51,780 I know this stuff. 55 00:01:51,780 --> 00:01:53,460 And I get it wrong 100%. 56 00:01:53,460 --> 00:01:54,780 - Not yet. 57 00:01:54,780 --> 00:01:58,940 - Russell, Kusunda, K-U-S-U-N-D-A. 58 00:01:58,940 --> 00:02:00,420 - That's a world language. 59 00:02:00,420 --> 00:02:01,620 That's... 60 00:02:01,620 --> 00:02:03,220 - It's a language spoken in Nepal. 61 00:02:03,220 --> 00:02:04,060 Very good. 62 00:02:04,060 --> 00:02:06,340 Very few fluent speakers left. 63 00:02:06,340 --> 00:02:10,340 Scott, Wintu, W-I-N-T-U. 64 00:02:10,340 --> 00:02:12,500 - I'm gonna say a world language. 65 00:02:12,500 --> 00:02:14,540 - Yeah, it's native to Northern California. 66 00:02:14,540 --> 00:02:15,540 Very good. - Let's go. 67 00:02:15,540 --> 00:02:16,380 - Northern California? - Only a few 68 00:02:16,380 --> 00:02:17,220 descendants left. 69 00:02:17,220 --> 00:02:18,060 Yeah, yeah. 70 00:02:18,060 --> 00:02:19,140 Kyle, you're next up. 71 00:02:19,140 --> 00:02:23,260 Malbodge, M-A-L-B-O-L-G-E. 72 00:02:23,260 --> 00:02:25,660 - All right, that's gotta be another computer language. 73 00:02:25,660 --> 00:02:26,500 - It is. 74 00:02:26,500 --> 00:02:28,420 It's a language designed from the ground up 75 00:02:28,420 --> 00:02:30,060 to be almost impossible to write in. 76 00:02:30,060 --> 00:02:30,900 Well done. 77 00:02:30,900 --> 00:02:32,660 I believe it's one-off. 78 00:02:32,660 --> 00:02:34,260 It's just difficult to program in. 79 00:02:34,260 --> 00:02:35,700 It's like really ugly and bad. 80 00:02:35,700 --> 00:02:36,620 You should check out Malbodge. 81 00:02:36,620 --> 00:02:37,460 It's funny. 82 00:02:37,460 --> 00:02:41,100 Russell, P-I-E-T. 83 00:02:41,100 --> 00:02:45,500 - Computer language. 84 00:02:45,500 --> 00:02:46,460 - It is. 85 00:02:46,460 --> 00:02:48,780 It's a programming language where programs 86 00:02:48,780 --> 00:02:50,700 are supposed to look like abstract paintings 87 00:02:50,700 --> 00:02:52,740 and the codes colored blocks. 88 00:02:52,740 --> 00:02:53,900 Of course. 89 00:02:53,900 --> 00:02:57,100 Scott, Votic, V-O-T-I-C. 90 00:02:57,100 --> 00:03:00,220 - I'm gonna say language, but like from Star Trek. 91 00:03:00,220 --> 00:03:03,820 - They are all actually on Earth, I will tell you that. 92 00:03:03,820 --> 00:03:04,660 - Okay. 93 00:03:04,660 --> 00:03:07,060 - Either in a computer or no sci-fi in here this week. 94 00:03:07,060 --> 00:03:08,420 - Still language. 95 00:03:08,420 --> 00:03:11,220 - It's a Uralic language spoken in Estonia. 96 00:03:11,220 --> 00:03:12,620 Very good. 97 00:03:12,620 --> 00:03:14,140 Last time through, one more round. 98 00:03:14,140 --> 00:03:14,980 - We're getting lucky. 99 00:03:14,980 --> 00:03:16,100 - I believe it's one, two, two. 100 00:03:16,100 --> 00:03:18,700 You are on a hot streak. 101 00:03:18,700 --> 00:03:23,180 Kyle, we've got Sentinel, S-E-N-T-I-N-E-L. 102 00:03:23,180 --> 00:03:26,060 - All right, that's gotta be a computer language. 103 00:03:26,060 --> 00:03:28,540 - Spoken by the inhabitants of North Sentinel Island 104 00:03:28,540 --> 00:03:30,180 in the Indian Ocean. 105 00:03:30,180 --> 00:03:31,540 - Wow. 106 00:03:31,540 --> 00:03:34,620 - Largely uncontacted, so you're forgiven 107 00:03:34,620 --> 00:03:35,740 for not knowing that. 108 00:03:35,740 --> 00:03:39,300 Russell, Rotokas, R-O-T-O-K-A-S. 109 00:03:39,300 --> 00:03:41,300 - That's the way you said it. 110 00:03:41,300 --> 00:03:43,140 - Or Rotokas, Rotokas. 111 00:03:43,140 --> 00:03:45,340 I haven't looked up how to pronounce any of these. 112 00:03:45,340 --> 00:03:46,500 (laughing) 113 00:03:46,500 --> 00:03:47,340 - We apologize. 114 00:03:47,340 --> 00:03:52,100 - So that's an island out in the middle of the Pacific 115 00:03:52,100 --> 00:03:54,860 called Roto, same where Roto-Rooter is from. 116 00:03:54,860 --> 00:03:58,100 So it's definitely a spoken language. 117 00:03:58,100 --> 00:04:00,020 - Are you making this up? 118 00:04:00,020 --> 00:04:01,420 - One more time the name of the place again 119 00:04:01,420 --> 00:04:02,260 so I can look that up. 120 00:04:02,260 --> 00:04:03,100 - Roto. 121 00:04:03,100 --> 00:04:05,820 (laughing) 122 00:04:05,820 --> 00:04:08,620 - It's actually, it's spoken in Papua New Guinea. 123 00:04:08,620 --> 00:04:09,460 Very good. 124 00:04:09,460 --> 00:04:10,300 - Same dish. 125 00:04:10,300 --> 00:04:11,140 - You pretty much got it. 126 00:04:11,140 --> 00:04:12,100 - You're actually right on it, 127 00:04:12,100 --> 00:04:14,220 'cause that's the descendants of New Zealand 128 00:04:14,220 --> 00:04:16,700 are Roto-Rooterans or something like that. 129 00:04:16,700 --> 00:04:18,540 I made up a story just like I make up my ideas. 130 00:04:18,540 --> 00:04:19,860 It's just how it is. 131 00:04:19,860 --> 00:04:21,180 (laughing) 132 00:04:21,180 --> 00:04:22,580 - The Maori? 133 00:04:22,580 --> 00:04:23,420 Is that what, yeah. 134 00:04:23,420 --> 00:04:24,700 - That's the one, yeah. 135 00:04:24,700 --> 00:04:27,980 - Yeah, and then Scott, Dumi, D-U-M-I. 136 00:04:27,980 --> 00:04:29,260 Finish strong for us. 137 00:04:29,260 --> 00:04:31,180 - I'm gonna finish strong with complete guess. 138 00:04:31,180 --> 00:04:33,540 I'm gonna say programming language. 139 00:04:33,540 --> 00:04:35,340 - That was the language of Nepal, 140 00:04:35,340 --> 00:04:37,460 another obscure one in the mountains. 141 00:04:37,460 --> 00:04:40,140 Sorry to say, I believe it was one Kyle Scott, 142 00:04:40,140 --> 00:04:42,060 two Russell, three our winner this week. 143 00:04:42,060 --> 00:04:42,900 - Oh nice Russell. 144 00:04:42,900 --> 00:04:45,260 - Yeah, let's go, I never win these. 145 00:04:45,260 --> 00:04:47,820 (laughing) 146 00:04:47,820 --> 00:04:49,300 - Yeah. 147 00:04:49,300 --> 00:04:51,220 Gonna remember this the whole episode by the way. 148 00:04:51,220 --> 00:04:53,060 Just gonna hold it over. 149 00:04:53,060 --> 00:04:53,900 - How proud you are. 150 00:04:53,900 --> 00:04:54,940 - Keep bringing it up. 151 00:04:54,940 --> 00:04:55,780 As winner of the-- 152 00:04:55,780 --> 00:04:57,140 - I'm so distracted. 153 00:04:57,140 --> 00:04:59,180 - The glow of the win. 154 00:04:59,180 --> 00:05:00,020 - Yeah, you're-- 155 00:05:00,020 --> 00:05:01,020 - The high of victory. 156 00:05:01,020 --> 00:05:03,460 - Your trophy is 3D printing in the basement right now. 157 00:05:03,460 --> 00:05:05,020 (laughing) 158 00:05:05,020 --> 00:05:05,940 - All right, Leo, 159 00:05:05,940 --> 00:05:08,140 what are you bringing to the table today? 160 00:05:08,140 --> 00:05:11,540 - Okay, so I don't know if you've ever interacted 161 00:05:11,540 --> 00:05:13,700 with a kid, maybe a nephew or niece, 162 00:05:13,700 --> 00:05:15,020 or you've got your own kids, 163 00:05:15,020 --> 00:05:17,940 or you've got some neighbor or something, 164 00:05:17,940 --> 00:05:21,380 and they ask about when something's going to happen. 165 00:05:21,380 --> 00:05:23,220 When are we gonna leave? 166 00:05:23,220 --> 00:05:24,060 When is this? 167 00:05:24,060 --> 00:05:25,220 How long do I have to wait for that? 168 00:05:25,220 --> 00:05:27,660 And you say, I don't know, 15 minutes. 169 00:05:27,660 --> 00:05:30,460 The kid says, how long is that? 170 00:05:30,460 --> 00:05:31,820 How do you even explain to, 171 00:05:31,820 --> 00:05:33,900 everyone has their own system for like, 172 00:05:33,900 --> 00:05:36,380 it's a one and a half Paw Patrols, 173 00:05:36,380 --> 00:05:38,140 or it's, you know, 174 00:05:38,140 --> 00:05:41,940 you're gonna have to count to 60, 15 times, 175 00:05:41,940 --> 00:05:44,540 like any kid's little brain can fathom 176 00:05:44,540 --> 00:05:46,500 what that could even mean, right? 177 00:05:46,500 --> 00:05:48,540 I would love to build a piece of hardware for this. 178 00:05:48,540 --> 00:05:50,180 Maybe it's smart speaker controlled, 179 00:05:50,180 --> 00:05:51,860 maybe it's app controlled, I don't know, 180 00:05:51,860 --> 00:05:55,140 but it's got a bar of LEDs, 181 00:05:55,140 --> 00:05:56,740 maybe an LED matrix, 182 00:05:56,740 --> 00:05:59,060 where it visualizes a countdown timer. 183 00:05:59,060 --> 00:06:01,340 Google Assistant kind of does this with smart displays, 184 00:06:01,340 --> 00:06:04,700 and there's like some shoddy websites out there, 185 00:06:04,700 --> 00:06:07,740 but I can't find an actual dedicated hardware product 186 00:06:07,740 --> 00:06:11,380 to show time remaining, a countdown timer of some kind. 187 00:06:11,380 --> 00:06:13,500 And I know that I would use this constantly. 188 00:06:13,500 --> 00:06:15,300 So you just say, here's my 15 minute timer, 189 00:06:15,300 --> 00:06:18,140 and it animates with progress bar style, 190 00:06:18,140 --> 00:06:21,540 or circle filling up style, to just show, 191 00:06:21,540 --> 00:06:23,620 you can see the fading going on, 192 00:06:23,620 --> 00:06:25,340 and the time running out. 193 00:06:25,340 --> 00:06:27,500 Kind of like, you know, a sand timer, 194 00:06:27,500 --> 00:06:29,300 but something a little bit more flexible 195 00:06:29,300 --> 00:06:30,820 with how much time is left. 196 00:06:30,820 --> 00:06:33,620 That's the whole pitch, some kind of LED matrix. 197 00:06:33,620 --> 00:06:34,700 - Love it, so something, 198 00:06:34,700 --> 00:06:37,700 I'm picturing like those things that you get at restaurants, 199 00:06:37,700 --> 00:06:39,540 where they're like, hey, we got a 45 minute wait, 200 00:06:39,540 --> 00:06:41,820 go away, hold this piece of hardware. 201 00:06:41,820 --> 00:06:44,420 But something that they can physically hold in their hands, 202 00:06:44,420 --> 00:06:47,180 the kid, and that something is changing on it, 203 00:06:47,180 --> 00:06:50,260 so they can see, or at least have a very clear idea 204 00:06:50,260 --> 00:06:52,140 of when time is gonna be up. 205 00:06:52,140 --> 00:06:53,540 - Yeah, maybe the time, 206 00:06:53,540 --> 00:06:55,500 like the full amount of the progress bar 207 00:06:55,500 --> 00:06:57,260 is 30 minutes or something, 208 00:06:57,260 --> 00:06:58,580 and then you say, oh, 20 minutes, 209 00:06:58,580 --> 00:07:00,220 so you set it to two thirds full, 210 00:07:00,220 --> 00:07:01,660 and they just expect, okay, 211 00:07:01,660 --> 00:07:04,260 now I can visualize how much time is going by. 212 00:07:04,260 --> 00:07:06,660 I have, I'm from the generation where every classroom 213 00:07:06,660 --> 00:07:08,620 that I was in growing up had an analog clock, 214 00:07:08,620 --> 00:07:10,860 and so when someone says that's 45 minutes from now, 215 00:07:10,860 --> 00:07:13,780 I just feel how much progress 216 00:07:13,780 --> 00:07:15,580 that is of a minute hand moving, right? 217 00:07:15,580 --> 00:07:18,300 - It's been ingrained in you. - Intuitively, but I don't, 218 00:07:18,300 --> 00:07:20,660 I feel like that's something that little kids can do too, 219 00:07:20,660 --> 00:07:23,740 and you could try to teach analog clocks to a three-year-old, 220 00:07:23,740 --> 00:07:25,460 I don't know if they'd really get it, you know? 221 00:07:25,460 --> 00:07:27,020 - Yeah, that reminds me of that game 222 00:07:27,020 --> 00:07:29,020 where the timer, and you try to hit it 223 00:07:29,020 --> 00:07:32,540 at the 10 second mark exactly to the millisecond. 224 00:07:32,540 --> 00:07:35,220 Play that game 100 times, 225 00:07:35,740 --> 00:07:38,580 and it'll be 15 minutes, right? 226 00:07:38,580 --> 00:07:42,180 Like, I think it's like, 227 00:07:42,180 --> 00:07:43,700 I never realized how hard it is 228 00:07:43,700 --> 00:07:46,660 for like a little kid to understand time, 229 00:07:46,660 --> 00:07:49,380 'cause it's so slow for them, I feel like, 230 00:07:49,380 --> 00:07:52,900 and so I don't know, like games are like, right, 231 00:07:52,900 --> 00:07:55,540 a fun animation, that's really interesting. 232 00:07:55,540 --> 00:07:58,700 Like, I think there's like an entertainment element, 233 00:07:58,700 --> 00:08:01,660 like they have to feel like time moving faster, 234 00:08:01,660 --> 00:08:03,820 and I feel like if they were to watch "Paint Dry" 235 00:08:03,820 --> 00:08:06,140 or "Seconds on a Clock," it's just like, 236 00:08:06,140 --> 00:08:08,420 this is so long, right? 237 00:08:08,420 --> 00:08:10,100 It's gonna feel like an hour and a half to them, 238 00:08:10,100 --> 00:08:12,220 so how do you make it like, 239 00:08:12,220 --> 00:08:14,340 'cause in a way, it sounds like you wanted it 240 00:08:14,340 --> 00:08:17,140 to move fast for them, right, in general? 241 00:08:17,140 --> 00:08:18,540 - Yeah, yeah, for sure. 242 00:08:18,540 --> 00:08:22,180 - So like, as it gets closer and closer to the time, 243 00:08:22,180 --> 00:08:25,220 the end time, it'll pulse or pulse faster 244 00:08:25,220 --> 00:08:26,900 or something interesting. 245 00:08:26,900 --> 00:08:28,340 - Yeah, like it starts changing colors, 246 00:08:28,340 --> 00:08:32,620 like you're red, then yellow, then green, finally. 247 00:08:32,620 --> 00:08:35,380 - Yeah, I honestly, I feel like this could come in handy 248 00:08:35,380 --> 00:08:37,220 at restaurants too, you know, 249 00:08:37,220 --> 00:08:39,180 I'm one of the types that gets really hangry, 250 00:08:39,180 --> 00:08:42,060 and so they handed me this little restaurant buzzer 251 00:08:42,060 --> 00:08:44,540 that starts counting down at 20 minutes. 252 00:08:44,540 --> 00:08:46,300 I can just like watch this and say like, 253 00:08:46,300 --> 00:08:49,460 "All right, there's only like two more little dots left here. 254 00:08:49,460 --> 00:08:51,060 "I can hold out that much longer," 255 00:08:51,060 --> 00:08:52,620 but I'm just like standing there 256 00:08:52,620 --> 00:08:54,980 waiting for this thing to buzz. 257 00:08:54,980 --> 00:08:56,660 I'm just like staring at my phone, like, 258 00:08:56,660 --> 00:09:00,340 "Come on, come on, come on," and it never comes. 259 00:09:00,340 --> 00:09:01,380 - I love that. 260 00:09:01,380 --> 00:09:04,140 Restaurant buzzer where that indicates your place in line 261 00:09:04,140 --> 00:09:06,300 is a brilliant idea that also needs a pitch. 262 00:09:06,300 --> 00:09:08,940 - Yeah, like it doesn't have to tell you the exact time, 263 00:09:08,940 --> 00:09:11,700 just how many people are before you and let you defer it, 264 00:09:11,700 --> 00:09:14,220 then it gives the restaurants, you know, 265 00:09:14,220 --> 00:09:15,460 plausible deniability of, 266 00:09:15,460 --> 00:09:17,340 "Well, we don't know the exact time that it's gonna be, 267 00:09:17,340 --> 00:09:19,460 "but there's four parties ahead of you." 268 00:09:19,460 --> 00:09:20,300 - Yeah. - Whoa. 269 00:09:20,300 --> 00:09:22,140 - And I know that this is kind of being supplanted 270 00:09:22,140 --> 00:09:23,940 by like text message systems and stuff, 271 00:09:23,940 --> 00:09:25,460 but not everyone uses those. 272 00:09:25,460 --> 00:09:28,020 - Guys, this is like the Domino's pizza tracker, right? 273 00:09:28,020 --> 00:09:29,460 They don't really give you the time, 274 00:09:29,460 --> 00:09:30,820 like they give you a rough time, 275 00:09:30,820 --> 00:09:32,180 but like, you're kind of like, 276 00:09:32,180 --> 00:09:35,820 "Whoa, the pizza is in the oven right now." 277 00:09:35,820 --> 00:09:38,820 And there's just something exciting about that, right? 278 00:09:38,820 --> 00:09:42,660 - Dude, so instead of saying, "Derek is making your pizza," 279 00:09:42,660 --> 00:09:43,720 your buzzer would say, 280 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,260 "The Smith family is finishing up dessert." 281 00:09:46,260 --> 00:09:47,100 (laughing) 282 00:09:47,100 --> 00:09:47,940 - Oh, man. 283 00:09:47,940 --> 00:09:49,180 - That's my table. - Yes. 284 00:09:49,180 --> 00:09:52,900 Speed them up, you know, 285 00:09:52,900 --> 00:09:54,060 and you start pressing the button 286 00:09:54,060 --> 00:09:56,740 and it's like throwing like napkins at them 287 00:09:56,740 --> 00:09:58,420 or something in real time. 288 00:09:58,420 --> 00:09:59,260 - Oh, there you go. 289 00:09:59,260 --> 00:10:00,940 - If you turn this into like a microtransaction, 290 00:10:00,940 --> 00:10:03,300 you spend a dollar and the waiter is gonna come over 291 00:10:03,300 --> 00:10:04,700 and give them a nasty look. 292 00:10:04,700 --> 00:10:05,540 (laughing) 293 00:10:05,540 --> 00:10:06,360 - There you go. 294 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:09,180 - $10 and they pour water on their lap or something. 295 00:10:09,180 --> 00:10:12,460 - Right, it's like Disney's Fast Pass, but malicious. 296 00:10:12,460 --> 00:10:13,980 (laughing) 297 00:10:13,980 --> 00:10:15,420 - Okay, if you were having dinner 298 00:10:15,420 --> 00:10:18,340 and somebody was like throwing dollars at you to leave, 299 00:10:18,340 --> 00:10:20,660 like, would you like? 300 00:10:20,660 --> 00:10:22,260 - I'd stay, yeah, right. 301 00:10:22,260 --> 00:10:23,820 - Oh, man. 302 00:10:23,820 --> 00:10:26,140 - It's like the airline booth when you're waiting, 303 00:10:26,140 --> 00:10:28,540 maybe 200 bucks will get you a little wait, 304 00:10:28,540 --> 00:10:30,380 maybe 300, you just stay at the table 305 00:10:30,380 --> 00:10:31,460 and they're throwing money at you. 306 00:10:31,460 --> 00:10:32,300 This is a reverse incentive. 307 00:10:32,300 --> 00:10:33,140 - I guess you're right. 308 00:10:33,140 --> 00:10:34,660 - It would backfire so quick, 309 00:10:34,660 --> 00:10:36,980 but what a social experiment that would be. 310 00:10:36,980 --> 00:10:38,820 - Yeah, for sure. 311 00:10:38,820 --> 00:10:40,740 - I'll leave right now for 50. 312 00:10:40,740 --> 00:10:41,580 - Yeah. 313 00:10:41,580 --> 00:10:44,140 (laughing) 314 00:10:44,140 --> 00:10:46,340 - I wanna go back to the MVP of this though. 315 00:10:46,340 --> 00:10:49,820 So timers like this for kids on here. 316 00:10:49,820 --> 00:10:51,100 - Oh, yes. 317 00:10:51,100 --> 00:10:52,180 - I wanna do one for like, 318 00:10:52,180 --> 00:10:54,340 hey, this is how long it is till Christmas. 319 00:10:54,340 --> 00:10:55,400 And it's just like, you know, 320 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:57,100 it's months of timer on there, 321 00:10:57,100 --> 00:11:00,460 but it gives them a day by day or week by month, 322 00:11:00,460 --> 00:11:03,740 how many more wake ups until it's Christmas time 323 00:11:03,740 --> 00:11:06,300 or some their birthday, some big event. 324 00:11:06,300 --> 00:11:07,980 - Yeah, we do this with paper rings. 325 00:11:07,980 --> 00:11:09,340 So we'll make like a long chain 326 00:11:09,340 --> 00:11:11,060 and every day we take one down kind of thing. 327 00:11:11,060 --> 00:11:11,900 - Oh, nice. 328 00:11:11,900 --> 00:11:14,460 - Something a little bit more digital, reusable, 329 00:11:14,460 --> 00:11:15,740 something could be cool to wear. 330 00:11:15,740 --> 00:11:19,140 - Dude, like a 15 minute advent calendar type of thing. 331 00:11:19,140 --> 00:11:22,100 That's like reusable and doable, like, right? 332 00:11:22,100 --> 00:11:25,980 Like, oh, every minute this box will drop something 333 00:11:25,980 --> 00:11:30,420 or I don't know what fun activity would fall out of there. 334 00:11:30,420 --> 00:11:33,300 You know, that would be cool. 335 00:11:33,300 --> 00:11:37,260 Then they get to play with 15 different toys in 15 minutes. 336 00:11:37,260 --> 00:11:41,140 Like that's gonna make time fly. 337 00:11:41,140 --> 00:11:42,180 - They're still playing with it, 338 00:11:42,180 --> 00:11:43,260 but they have the excitement 339 00:11:43,260 --> 00:11:45,660 that something new is still gonna drop. 340 00:11:45,660 --> 00:11:48,060 - It's like the, what's that one dog feeder, 341 00:11:48,060 --> 00:11:49,820 the Furbo dog feeder. 342 00:11:49,820 --> 00:11:52,300 (all laughing) 343 00:11:52,300 --> 00:11:55,340 - It drops a tic-tac every couple of minutes. 344 00:11:55,340 --> 00:11:56,820 What color is it gonna be this time? 345 00:11:56,820 --> 00:11:58,540 Or maybe it's a Skittle. 346 00:11:58,540 --> 00:12:02,500 We're gonna have to wait one more minute. 347 00:12:02,500 --> 00:12:04,180 - One more Skittle. 348 00:12:04,180 --> 00:12:05,020 - My dog is- 349 00:12:05,020 --> 00:12:06,020 - Mom, how much time still dinner? 350 00:12:06,020 --> 00:12:06,860 Huh? 351 00:12:06,860 --> 00:12:07,680 Huh? 352 00:12:07,680 --> 00:12:08,520 Set the thing. 353 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:09,620 (all laughing) 354 00:12:09,620 --> 00:12:11,500 - My dog is so food motivated. 355 00:12:11,500 --> 00:12:13,660 We could probably teach him time, 356 00:12:13,660 --> 00:12:16,220 like how time works just by dropping a treat 357 00:12:16,220 --> 00:12:19,040 every five minutes or 15 minutes or something. 358 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:20,260 - Regular intervals, yeah. 359 00:12:20,260 --> 00:12:21,100 - Whoa. 360 00:12:22,300 --> 00:12:25,660 I'm gonna be gone for 15 treats, it's okay. 361 00:12:25,660 --> 00:12:28,460 - 15 treats, really? 362 00:12:28,460 --> 00:12:30,700 Yes. 363 00:12:30,700 --> 00:12:32,020 - He's just happy. 364 00:12:32,020 --> 00:12:33,340 - You're leaving. 365 00:12:33,340 --> 00:12:34,300 - Yeah, right. 366 00:12:34,300 --> 00:12:37,340 - Yeah, I came to this with a half-baked idea here. 367 00:12:37,340 --> 00:12:38,460 I don't have a clear vision yet 368 00:12:38,460 --> 00:12:41,380 for what the physical animations 369 00:12:41,380 --> 00:12:43,380 and product and stuff itself looks like, but. 370 00:12:43,380 --> 00:12:45,780 - I think we're selling the restaurants now is what it is. 371 00:12:45,780 --> 00:12:49,060 - I think a friend of mine actually made one of these. 372 00:12:49,060 --> 00:12:49,900 - Yeah. 373 00:12:49,900 --> 00:12:51,140 - Because it had a similar problem. 374 00:12:51,140 --> 00:12:52,940 Like, kid wanted to get out of bed 375 00:12:52,940 --> 00:12:54,900 and go run around and play. 376 00:12:54,900 --> 00:12:56,660 He's like, "No, no, no, you have to stay in bed 377 00:12:56,660 --> 00:12:57,980 "until 6 a.m." 378 00:12:57,980 --> 00:13:01,460 Or some bonkers early hour here. 379 00:13:01,460 --> 00:13:03,020 But it's a kid, so he wants to get up 380 00:13:03,020 --> 00:13:04,260 and go run around and do whatever. 381 00:13:04,260 --> 00:13:07,760 So, it had this little clock that you set a timer, 382 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,260 and then once the timer turns green, 383 00:13:10,260 --> 00:13:11,380 you're allowed to get out of your bed 384 00:13:11,380 --> 00:13:13,060 and go play in your room. 385 00:13:13,060 --> 00:13:16,420 And then once it turns blue, now you can leave the room. 386 00:13:16,420 --> 00:13:18,820 And so it kind of just gave him a good set of rules, 387 00:13:18,820 --> 00:13:21,020 some boundaries there to go through. 388 00:13:21,020 --> 00:13:21,860 And I don't know if he made that 389 00:13:21,860 --> 00:13:23,220 or if he found that somewhere to buy it, 390 00:13:23,220 --> 00:13:25,740 but maybe they're available already. 391 00:13:25,740 --> 00:13:26,580 - We've got one, yeah. 392 00:13:26,580 --> 00:13:29,340 So, there's one company that's productized it, 393 00:13:29,340 --> 00:13:32,340 but it's a timer based like at this time every day, 394 00:13:32,340 --> 00:13:34,660 it makes noises and does it, yeah. 395 00:13:34,660 --> 00:13:35,740 - Oh, yeah, okay. 396 00:13:35,740 --> 00:13:37,340 So, you can't like dynamically set it 397 00:13:37,340 --> 00:13:39,140 to give a 15 minute countdown or something? 398 00:13:39,140 --> 00:13:41,860 - Hmm, not to my knowledge. 399 00:13:41,860 --> 00:13:44,500 I could fire up the app and look, but I don't think so. 400 00:13:44,500 --> 00:13:47,460 I think it's more like every day at 5 a.m. it does this, 401 00:13:47,460 --> 00:13:49,100 and 6 a.m. does that. 402 00:13:49,100 --> 00:13:49,920 That's a good idea. 403 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,340 Maybe my whole request is just a feature request 404 00:13:52,340 --> 00:13:54,640 for this already existing product and company. 405 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:55,820 (laughing) 406 00:13:55,820 --> 00:13:58,100 - It's what 90% of our ideas are, it's fine. 407 00:13:58,100 --> 00:14:00,460 - The poor listeners out there are like, 408 00:14:00,460 --> 00:14:02,860 that already exists, idiot! 409 00:14:02,860 --> 00:14:04,220 We hear you, we see you. 410 00:14:04,220 --> 00:14:08,620 Post social media us and tell us about what dummies we are. 411 00:14:08,620 --> 00:14:11,860 - Okay, wait, another way to think about this too, 412 00:14:11,860 --> 00:14:14,580 music, you throw like, here's four songs, 413 00:14:14,580 --> 00:14:16,500 just super quick software, right? 414 00:14:16,500 --> 00:14:18,100 I need 15 minutes on the clock 415 00:14:18,100 --> 00:14:22,040 and it finds a bunch of kid-friendly songs or whatever, 416 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,560 boom, once you're done with these songs, 417 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:26,360 we're ready to go. 418 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:27,200 - I like that. 419 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,400 - And it has the like, three songs in the lineup, 420 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:31,600 it shows them and then they go away as they play, 421 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:33,920 so you can see, oh, looks like there's only two songs left, 422 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:35,320 I can see that, yeah. 423 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:36,720 - Oh, I really like that. 424 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,080 - Yeah, nursery songs are always like, 425 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:42,960 a couple minutes long, I mean, seven of them maybe, 426 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,840 like, hopefully they can party through it. 427 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:47,680 - Freebird, 10 times in a row, go. 428 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:49,120 - Full concert, kids love it. 429 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:49,960 - Right? 430 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,960 (laughing) 431 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:54,280 - That's great. 432 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:55,720 - That's really good. 433 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:57,360 - You could turn it into a game too, 434 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,600 where if you played like WarioWare, 435 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:01,440 where we just a whole series of like, 436 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:03,880 20 second mini games, right? 437 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:05,680 And so if you set that up to say, 438 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:08,280 I need 15 minutes worth of mini games, 439 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,240 and then now the kid can play all these things, 440 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,120 you could even like, make it educational right now, 441 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:13,080 all of a sudden it's like, 442 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,200 you solve 15 minutes worth of math problems or whatever. 443 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:17,600 - I love that, yeah. 444 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:18,600 - Whoa. 445 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:19,880 - Making it interactive is a great idea. 446 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:24,880 - Like, bop it, but the timer countdown, you know, like. 447 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:31,960 - How many more times do I have to pull it, mom, 448 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:33,160 before dinner's ready? 449 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:34,880 - I'm tired of this, grandpa. 450 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:37,120 (laughing) 451 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:41,040 - Yeah, I know. 452 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:43,200 - Pass it. 453 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:44,400 (imitating music) 454 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,160 - We're aging ourselves, I think this is like, 455 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:47,000 a very much like- 456 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:48,360 (laughing) 457 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:51,360 - Our half-assed memories of what the bop it sounds are. 458 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:52,200 - What the hell, yeah. 459 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:53,040 - What's a bop it? 460 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,280 (laughing) 461 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:56,800 - Is it like cookie clicker, you know? 462 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:57,880 So stupid. 463 00:15:57,880 --> 00:15:58,720 - Oh, God. 464 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,240 - Sorry, Gen Z. 465 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,440 - I feel like we apologize to them every episode. 466 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,480 - Yeah, they're, you know, 467 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:07,720 they're the future rulers of the world, right? 468 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:11,080 So we gotta be kind to them, I guess, but, you know. 469 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,640 - I for one, welcome our Zoomer overlords. 470 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:16,280 - Yeah, help us fix the economy, I guess. 471 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:18,440 - You know, whatever's going on here, 472 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:20,920 so that'll be another couple of years. 473 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:22,960 - Millennials are in their 20s and early 30s, 474 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:26,080 we've already given up and said, you guys can have it. 475 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:27,440 (laughing) 476 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:28,400 It's over for us. 477 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:30,240 - Yeah. 478 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,820 (upbeat music) 479 00:16:32,820 --> 00:16:36,680 - All right, Scott, what do you got for us this week? 480 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:40,040 - I think I'm gonna deviate from the usual hardware 481 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:43,840 and go into more of a corporate espionage. 482 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:44,680 So. 483 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:45,520 - So software. 484 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:48,800 - Kyle and I, our company contracts our employees 485 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,480 to other companies in the local area. 486 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,420 At one point, one of our contractors left our company 487 00:16:54,420 --> 00:16:56,820 for another company, it happens all the time. 488 00:16:56,820 --> 00:16:59,640 However, this contractor, since they left, 489 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,160 has been still throwing business our way 490 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:03,620 from the new company. 491 00:17:03,620 --> 00:17:07,000 So for example, if the new company needed 492 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:10,400 specific help contracting on a project, 493 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,700 this employee would encourage the new company 494 00:17:12,700 --> 00:17:15,080 to throw work back to us, 495 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,820 which I found fascinating. 496 00:17:17,820 --> 00:17:20,840 So my question/idea is today, 497 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:22,560 could you make a business out of this? 498 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:25,400 Could you take a covert group of individuals 499 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:27,480 who were purposely hired to other companies, 500 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:29,760 but their loyalties still remain 501 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:31,760 with the original parent company, 502 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:33,760 whose sole purpose was to throw business back 503 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:35,080 to the parent company? 504 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:36,580 That's about as far as I got, 505 00:17:36,580 --> 00:17:39,880 and then I got into a really legal gray area. 506 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,340 - Like Steven Elop. 507 00:17:42,340 --> 00:17:46,580 There was a high ranking Microsoft executive. 508 00:17:46,580 --> 00:17:48,740 He was like just under the CEO, I think, 509 00:17:48,740 --> 00:17:51,460 and in the mid-20 teens, 510 00:17:51,460 --> 00:17:55,380 he went over and became the CEO of Nokia, I think it was. 511 00:17:55,380 --> 00:17:57,220 Yeah, he went over to Nokia, 512 00:17:57,220 --> 00:18:00,260 and then Nokia was doing worse and worse and worse and worse, 513 00:18:00,260 --> 00:18:02,380 and then he switched the whole company 514 00:18:02,380 --> 00:18:05,380 to be a Microsoft customer and make Windows phones, 515 00:18:05,380 --> 00:18:07,220 because he came from Microsoft, 516 00:18:07,220 --> 00:18:09,340 and then they continued to not sell super well, 517 00:18:09,340 --> 00:18:11,820 and then he wrote this famous letter that was like, 518 00:18:11,820 --> 00:18:13,780 "This is a burning oil platform, 519 00:18:13,780 --> 00:18:15,020 "and we all need to abandon ship," 520 00:18:15,020 --> 00:18:17,220 and then he sold the whole company to Microsoft 521 00:18:17,220 --> 00:18:19,580 and became a Microsoft executive again. 522 00:18:19,580 --> 00:18:23,420 He went to Finland and just corporate shoehorned 523 00:18:23,420 --> 00:18:28,420 this whole massive tentpole of a company in the industry, 524 00:18:28,420 --> 00:18:33,020 and just as they dwindled, he brought them back home. 525 00:18:33,020 --> 00:18:33,860 Yeah, it was crazy. 526 00:18:33,860 --> 00:18:35,180 - That's amazing. 527 00:18:35,180 --> 00:18:36,020 - Yeah. 528 00:18:36,020 --> 00:18:38,540 - So was that actually Microsoft's plan from the start? 529 00:18:38,540 --> 00:18:41,260 'Cause that's kind of where Scott's idea is going, right? 530 00:18:41,260 --> 00:18:43,140 - Billy Gates tells them, "You're out of here. 531 00:18:43,140 --> 00:18:45,540 "Go to Nokia, Microsoft, tank the company." 532 00:18:45,540 --> 00:18:47,540 He's six steps ahead of us right now. 533 00:18:47,540 --> 00:18:48,940 - Balmers in the back room, like, 534 00:18:48,940 --> 00:18:51,340 "We've got a new plan for you, Steven." 535 00:18:51,340 --> 00:18:52,180 Yeah. 536 00:18:52,180 --> 00:18:53,940 - I guess, I don't know the business part yet. 537 00:18:53,940 --> 00:18:54,980 I think I'm gonna get there, 538 00:18:54,980 --> 00:18:59,980 but the idea of just as people are exit interviewing, 539 00:18:59,980 --> 00:19:03,460 listen, we're gonna cut you a commission check 540 00:19:03,460 --> 00:19:07,460 for any sale that we do because of you. 541 00:19:09,020 --> 00:19:12,300 That way you're always kind of still in the network soul, 542 00:19:12,300 --> 00:19:14,420 like, just give them an incentive 543 00:19:14,420 --> 00:19:17,180 to sell your services, right? 544 00:19:17,180 --> 00:19:19,300 - You have to have the incentive there. 545 00:19:19,300 --> 00:19:23,500 At the same time, this truly becomes like spy versus spy. 546 00:19:23,500 --> 00:19:26,980 Like, you are moving to another company. 547 00:19:26,980 --> 00:19:29,500 You have a handler back at your original company 548 00:19:29,500 --> 00:19:32,580 that all your communication is coming to in and out of. 549 00:19:32,580 --> 00:19:33,620 - Oh. 550 00:19:33,620 --> 00:19:35,260 - Exhibit A in the court case. 551 00:19:35,260 --> 00:19:37,140 - Oh, interesting. 552 00:19:37,140 --> 00:19:39,060 (both laughing) 553 00:19:39,060 --> 00:19:41,180 - So you're kind of working 554 00:19:41,180 --> 00:19:43,540 with a covert ops agent internally. 555 00:19:43,540 --> 00:19:44,860 So this is like, 556 00:19:44,860 --> 00:19:47,780 I think this is like a business culture shift. 557 00:19:47,780 --> 00:19:50,500 Like, all right, every employee that leaves 558 00:19:50,500 --> 00:19:53,460 is coming out as a salesperson. 559 00:19:53,460 --> 00:19:58,460 And that salesperson has access to the sales manager, right? 560 00:19:58,460 --> 00:19:59,940 And this is how they work, right? 561 00:19:59,940 --> 00:20:02,020 Like, this should, 562 00:20:02,020 --> 00:20:06,260 it's kind of like replacing your sales team with people, 563 00:20:06,260 --> 00:20:09,580 like, as you churn at a company, large company, 564 00:20:09,580 --> 00:20:12,060 your churn becomes your sales pipeline. 565 00:20:12,060 --> 00:20:15,660 Like, that's, I mean, I feel like that should be, 566 00:20:15,660 --> 00:20:18,460 I don't know, maybe people think this way already, 567 00:20:18,460 --> 00:20:22,060 but maybe not incentivized, I don't know. 568 00:20:22,060 --> 00:20:23,540 - Yeah, but if you do incentivize, 569 00:20:23,540 --> 00:20:28,060 any company that has high turnover for whatever reasons, 570 00:20:28,060 --> 00:20:31,860 all of a sudden could make that high turnover work for them, 571 00:20:31,860 --> 00:20:33,460 profitable in some way. 572 00:20:33,460 --> 00:20:35,020 Although I guess if you have high turnover, 573 00:20:35,020 --> 00:20:36,700 people generally don't wanna be loyal 574 00:20:36,700 --> 00:20:40,620 to their original company that they left in the first place. 575 00:20:40,620 --> 00:20:42,300 - Unless that's the plan from the start. 576 00:20:42,300 --> 00:20:43,140 - Yeah. 577 00:20:43,140 --> 00:20:44,900 - Your whole culture's around like, 578 00:20:44,900 --> 00:20:46,580 all right, but you really still, 579 00:20:46,580 --> 00:20:47,860 you love working here so much, 580 00:20:47,860 --> 00:20:49,940 we have a new idea for you. 581 00:20:49,940 --> 00:20:51,220 - Show your loyalty. 582 00:20:51,220 --> 00:20:54,700 - We will pay you under the table. 583 00:20:54,700 --> 00:20:55,860 - This is actually what Elon. 584 00:20:55,860 --> 00:20:58,500 - You're gonna go apply for these jobs over here. 585 00:20:58,500 --> 00:21:00,860 We have these that will help you like write your resume 586 00:21:00,860 --> 00:21:02,340 and do everything. 587 00:21:02,340 --> 00:21:05,260 You're gonna become this salesperson over here 588 00:21:05,260 --> 00:21:08,740 because we know that they need what our company provides. 589 00:21:08,740 --> 00:21:09,580 - Yeah. 590 00:21:09,580 --> 00:21:11,620 Oh yeah, Elon fired everybody at Twitter 591 00:21:11,620 --> 00:21:13,420 so that they could go work other jobs 592 00:21:13,420 --> 00:21:15,460 and sell more Twitter ads. 593 00:21:15,460 --> 00:21:17,420 That's totally this whole. 594 00:21:17,420 --> 00:21:20,380 - That's been the plan from the beginning, day one. 595 00:21:20,380 --> 00:21:21,660 - 5D chess. 596 00:21:21,660 --> 00:21:24,260 - Yeah, we're playing checkers, he's playing chess, right? 597 00:21:24,260 --> 00:21:28,260 He's fired everybody for this sole reason, Scott. 598 00:21:30,780 --> 00:21:32,500 - I'm just stealing Elon's idea right here. 599 00:21:32,500 --> 00:21:33,580 - Right. 600 00:21:33,580 --> 00:21:36,420 They're advertising revenues down like 70 something percent. 601 00:21:36,420 --> 00:21:37,260 - It didn't work. 602 00:21:37,260 --> 00:21:38,300 - It didn't work. 603 00:21:38,300 --> 00:21:41,180 Nope. 604 00:21:41,180 --> 00:21:44,540 Everyone who left or was fired hated that new management. 605 00:21:44,540 --> 00:21:46,380 - Only on paper. 606 00:21:46,380 --> 00:21:47,300 - Next time. 607 00:21:47,300 --> 00:21:48,140 - I was just thinking now, 608 00:21:48,140 --> 00:21:50,700 like this idea actually kind of exists 609 00:21:50,700 --> 00:21:52,180 in like the medical world. 610 00:21:52,180 --> 00:21:55,380 So athletic trainers at colleges, high schools, 611 00:21:55,380 --> 00:21:58,340 those are all people who are salaried employees 612 00:21:58,340 --> 00:21:59,820 of like a local hospital. 613 00:21:59,820 --> 00:22:00,740 - Yeah, yeah. 614 00:22:00,740 --> 00:22:03,580 - That local hospital pays the athletic trainer 615 00:22:03,580 --> 00:22:05,820 to go and sit at high school football games 616 00:22:05,820 --> 00:22:08,300 and in high school workout rooms. 617 00:22:08,300 --> 00:22:10,900 And then when that person gets injured, 618 00:22:10,900 --> 00:22:14,300 they're like, "Hey, go to my local hospital. 619 00:22:14,300 --> 00:22:17,580 That's where I'm from and you should go there." 620 00:22:17,580 --> 00:22:19,700 And so that's kind of how those work. 621 00:22:19,700 --> 00:22:22,260 - Like are they working there paid by the hospital 622 00:22:22,260 --> 00:22:24,060 or does the high school? 623 00:22:24,060 --> 00:22:26,660 - They're paid by the hospital, yeah. 624 00:22:26,660 --> 00:22:27,500 And so-- 625 00:22:27,500 --> 00:22:28,340 - High school doesn't pay at all? 626 00:22:28,340 --> 00:22:31,300 - The high school pays in like an in-kind sponsorship. 627 00:22:31,300 --> 00:22:33,860 So when you see like local health center 628 00:22:33,860 --> 00:22:36,940 as the ad on the football stadium, 629 00:22:36,940 --> 00:22:39,340 that's usually where that's from. 630 00:22:39,340 --> 00:22:40,860 - Interesting, okay. 631 00:22:40,860 --> 00:22:45,340 So this is kind of like that, but I think, yeah. 632 00:22:45,340 --> 00:22:46,780 - Kind of. 633 00:22:46,780 --> 00:22:48,140 - I guess what I'm thinking too, 634 00:22:48,140 --> 00:22:52,700 like what if there's like a middleman construct, right? 635 00:22:52,700 --> 00:22:57,260 Like to that end, like is that employee getting a kickback 636 00:22:57,260 --> 00:22:59,220 for every patient, right? 637 00:22:59,220 --> 00:23:00,260 Like they send their way, 638 00:23:00,260 --> 00:23:04,220 like they're straight hustling like somehow maybe, but. 639 00:23:04,220 --> 00:23:05,540 - Commission based. 640 00:23:05,540 --> 00:23:06,740 - Commission, yeah. 641 00:23:06,740 --> 00:23:09,420 - But I don't think the commission should come, 642 00:23:09,420 --> 00:23:11,740 like so how you would make a business out of this maybe 643 00:23:11,740 --> 00:23:13,740 is you're the middleman third party. 644 00:23:13,740 --> 00:23:17,540 So like this engineering firm, you know, 645 00:23:17,540 --> 00:23:21,340 "Hey, we can't technically give you a kickback 646 00:23:21,340 --> 00:23:25,420 for every sale, but this company that we partner with, 647 00:23:25,420 --> 00:23:29,900 if you like to sign up for, we'll give you a kickback 648 00:23:29,900 --> 00:23:33,460 for no apparent reason or something, you know. 649 00:23:33,460 --> 00:23:35,500 - That's a really good idea, Russell. 650 00:23:35,500 --> 00:23:38,900 All you need to do is find every person, 651 00:23:38,900 --> 00:23:41,140 you just scrape LinkedIn every day. 652 00:23:41,140 --> 00:23:44,580 And anytime someone changes jobs from one to another, 653 00:23:44,580 --> 00:23:46,380 reach out to them on LinkedIn and be like, 654 00:23:46,380 --> 00:23:48,580 "Look, I see you just moved jobs here. 655 00:23:48,580 --> 00:23:50,460 I see you have ties with your old company. 656 00:23:50,460 --> 00:23:53,700 If you can throw business to your old company, 657 00:23:53,700 --> 00:23:56,360 we will facilitate that somehow." 658 00:23:56,360 --> 00:23:57,920 And... 659 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:02,920 - Yes, you're a facilitator of the deal, right? 660 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:04,260 - Interesting. 661 00:24:04,260 --> 00:24:06,920 - The old company would pay the middleman 662 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,280 to get business from the new company. 663 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:10,800 Everyone wins. 664 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,000 It's like a recruiter, but for business. 665 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,940 - Yeah, okay. 666 00:24:16,940 --> 00:24:20,240 This is some black hat stuff now. 667 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:26,360 But I wanna add, oh, this is gonna sound terrible. 668 00:24:26,360 --> 00:24:28,840 (Russell laughs) 669 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:32,800 After an NDA expires, three years or whatever, 670 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,480 there are some methodologies 671 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,840 that I think people would find valuable, right? 672 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,020 Like at your previous job. 673 00:24:40,020 --> 00:24:42,360 I would say it's not a trade secret. 674 00:24:42,360 --> 00:24:47,360 It's just like, if you just knew which company we used, 675 00:24:47,360 --> 00:24:51,600 like third-party company we used to supply, 676 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,760 we use Uline for our packaging. 677 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:54,880 But some people are like, 678 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,280 "We go through local suppliers," you know? 679 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,360 Or something like, if there was a way to facilitate 680 00:25:00,360 --> 00:25:04,840 those types of conversations without it being super sketchy, 681 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,660 but it's like, I don't know. 682 00:25:07,660 --> 00:25:09,120 - You reach out to the person. 683 00:25:09,120 --> 00:25:11,200 You've been here three years. 684 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,460 You probably know a few things like this. 685 00:25:13,460 --> 00:25:16,120 Would you like us, yes or no, to contact the company 686 00:25:16,120 --> 00:25:20,180 and try to start that conversation for you? 687 00:25:20,180 --> 00:25:21,720 They don't have to know that that information 688 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,160 is coming from you, 689 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,080 but we can anonymously deliver the information 690 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,040 from the employee under your care 691 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:31,200 who's remaining anonymous to management to say, 692 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:32,680 "Hey, your competitors do this." 693 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:33,720 - They pay you for the tip. 694 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,160 - It'll probably be pretty obvious who's selling it. 695 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,440 It's probably Derek who came from the other competitor. 696 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:39,960 - But it doesn't matter. 697 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:41,800 You got plausible deniability, 698 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,000 and LinkedIn has all the information 699 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:45,200 you could ever need for this 700 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,440 based on people's employment history. 701 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,760 - And I feel like this probably already happened, 702 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:53,280 like a consulting firm probably reaches out 703 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:58,280 to previous employees about their use of certain systems. 704 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,800 How did you do this in your ERP? 705 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,220 Oh, well, and it doesn't sound or feel 706 00:26:04,220 --> 00:26:07,980 like a corporate secret that you're spilling, right? 707 00:26:07,980 --> 00:26:11,280 But now you're just kind of socially engineering information 708 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,060 out of past employees, 709 00:26:13,060 --> 00:26:15,420 so at least be a little transparent with it 710 00:26:15,420 --> 00:26:17,580 and give them, you know, like, 711 00:26:17,580 --> 00:26:21,540 we are soliciting not secrets. 712 00:26:21,540 --> 00:26:24,460 - Be totally upfront about it and pay them for their time. 713 00:26:24,460 --> 00:26:29,460 - It's more honest, I guess, than like, you know, 714 00:26:29,460 --> 00:26:31,200 yeah, sure, we're wearing black hats, 715 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:35,420 but at least we show it, you know, instead of just like. 716 00:26:35,420 --> 00:26:36,540 - But we wear them proudly. 717 00:26:36,540 --> 00:26:38,060 - Yeah. 718 00:26:38,060 --> 00:26:40,020 - You're an arms dealer. 719 00:26:40,020 --> 00:26:42,780 - Yes, we sell illegal guns, but it's, 720 00:26:42,780 --> 00:26:43,900 at least we tell people. 721 00:26:43,900 --> 00:26:44,980 - Trade secrets. 722 00:26:46,700 --> 00:26:48,180 - I just don't wanna get incriminated. 723 00:26:48,180 --> 00:26:50,580 You come up with a tax fraud one, Scott, it's just like. 724 00:26:50,580 --> 00:26:51,940 - One episode, man. 725 00:26:51,940 --> 00:26:56,260 - It's always the nice guys that have all the super genius, 726 00:26:56,260 --> 00:26:58,120 evil genius ideas, right? 727 00:26:58,120 --> 00:27:06,220 - All right, Russell, what do you got today? 728 00:27:06,220 --> 00:27:07,100 What's your idea? 729 00:27:07,100 --> 00:27:13,320 - All right, so I feel like there's this problem 730 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:18,000 where being tech gadget people, 731 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,800 we like to buy expensive gadgets. 732 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,660 And then we have this like wishful thinking 733 00:27:23,660 --> 00:27:26,840 and buyer's regret about our expensive gadget now. 734 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:31,360 And one of those gadgets is drones, right? 735 00:27:31,360 --> 00:27:35,320 Like quadcopters, it's like so cool for the first, 736 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,200 maybe couple months you have it. 737 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:38,920 And then all of a sudden you're like, 738 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,120 oh, it sits in the garage a little too long 739 00:27:41,120 --> 00:27:43,040 or doesn't get used. 740 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:47,320 And so why I'm hyping on drones 741 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,800 is because I feel like there's a huge matching need 742 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,520 for people that own a lot of drones that sit around 743 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:59,000 to create maps like GIS, 744 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:04,880 LIDAR maps of areas, cities need it, 745 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,840 businesses need it, roofers need it. 746 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:10,020 Everybody needs a fricking drone shot. 747 00:28:10,020 --> 00:28:13,560 But they also like, probably it's too expensive 748 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,280 to like have a bunch of drones in your corporation 749 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,000 for every person in your fleet. 750 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,520 And so drones for hire is this idea 751 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,200 where you get all the little people 752 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,080 that kind of want drones to be the Uber drivers 753 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,480 of drone footage, right? 754 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:34,480 So you drop requests for mapped areas, 755 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,680 you fly your drone, you capture the footage, 756 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,240 you upload it, right? 757 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:39,380 Rinse and repeat. 758 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,600 At my current job, right, 759 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,760 there's this huge need for like LIDAR mapping 760 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:49,360 or just pictures of houses in the fall 761 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:53,120 because once all the leaves are gone, 762 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,200 all the tree canopy stuff, 763 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,520 you can't take really good photos of houses 764 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,720 until all the leaves are gone. 765 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,100 And so we just need hundreds of drones 766 00:29:02,100 --> 00:29:05,440 to fly and capture footage of every possible region 767 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,120 as quickly as possible 768 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,140 while that sliver of time in the season, right? 769 00:29:11,140 --> 00:29:14,280 So that's drones for hire. 770 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,780 It's just like ad hoc hiring drone people 771 00:29:17,780 --> 00:29:21,040 to fill this giant need for maps 772 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:25,120 at a drone level, right? 773 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:26,920 - Lots of uses. 774 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,560 So to clarify, you, the drone owner, 775 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,360 you've bought this drone, it's sitting in your garage. 776 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,440 You would be the one who would sign up for this app 777 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,520 and be like, yeah, I can go fly my drone 778 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,040 and get whatever footage you need. 779 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,560 It's not just you handing your drone to someone else. 780 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:42,680 - Correct, yeah. 781 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,680 You would be an Uber driver. 782 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,080 Like you would maybe have to drive to a site, 783 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,480 fly your drone, upload your map, move on, right? 784 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:51,480 - Love that. 785 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,360 'Cause you still get to fly the drone. 786 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,400 That's the whole point, you got it. 787 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,000 - Right, and you're now making, 788 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,720 it's kind of like a revenue stream. 789 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,920 It like breaks, so you have it for fun, 790 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:02,720 but then you're also making money on it. 791 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,880 It's just like owning a car, right? 792 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,440 It's, and then Uber driving or whatever. 793 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:12,080 So yeah, this, a huge need. 794 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,640 I think that's just DGI or whatever, 795 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,760 should just give drones out for free 796 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,160 or like at a discounted rate and say, 797 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:22,000 or like, what is it? 798 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,560 Amazon does the Kindle with ads. 799 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:27,560 You just do something where you give out drones 800 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:28,600 and you're like, all right, 801 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,960 you can't use your drone until you've done 10 flights. 802 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:33,520 Here's how you do it. 803 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:34,360 Something like that. 804 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,040 - You gotta fly through this obstacle course 805 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,040 and prove you're worthy of this service. 806 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,200 - Or like-- 807 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,200 - Then we just sell the obstacle course 'cause it's fun. 808 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:43,040 - Yeah. 809 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:47,040 - That sounds fun, just on its own. 810 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,000 Like those drone racing companies, 811 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,600 competitions that they have out in Vegas or whatever. 812 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:55,280 My wife and I had a drone videography business 813 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,320 when they were like still pretty clutch. 814 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,120 We had a DJI one before they had cameras built in. 815 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,480 So we had the model that you strapped a GoPro to basically. 816 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:04,440 It was super great. 817 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,000 My whole goal with it was like start an LLC, 818 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,720 get just enough income to pay for the drone itself 819 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,200 and the experiment and then maybe I'll even stop. 820 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:14,040 I don't know. 821 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:15,320 But after about a year, 822 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:16,520 we had done a couple of jobs 823 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,980 for like a plastic injection molding company and stuff. 824 00:31:19,980 --> 00:31:22,200 Got some video and stuff, made a few hundred bucks, 825 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:23,680 paid for the drone itself. 826 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,240 And then we were looking at this like vast chasm 827 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,440 of we're gonna have to get certified. 828 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,360 There's gonna be a bunch of new regulation. 829 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,840 There's gonna be like insurance to deal with and stuff 830 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:34,960 'cause this is becoming legitimate now. 831 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,440 Let's bounce and we got out of it 832 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:41,440 because there was such impending headache 833 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,400 when it came to like all the paperwork and stuff. 834 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,120 So if I could abstract all that out and say, 835 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,280 hey, I need to hire a drone for this or whatever, 836 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,080 it comes with a pilot who's insured, 837 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,120 who's certified, who's done all this 838 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,720 and knows exactly what I need. 839 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,160 Or your platform maybe matches me to local pilots 840 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,760 who have, you know, this one's better for like video. 841 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:02,680 This one does LIDAR. 842 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:07,240 This one goes around and, I don't know, 843 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,360 makes 3D maps of your farm or whatever you need. 844 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,200 Then yeah, you're kind of making a marketplace there. 845 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:14,840 - Right, I think your revenue stream 846 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,040 is gonna be the insurance company at this point. 847 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,520 Let's start a drone insurance company 848 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,420 and then just have it as the baseline 849 00:32:22,420 --> 00:32:24,120 of this entire operation. 850 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,840 You gotta use our insurance for it, 851 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:28,820 you know, $2 a month or whatever. 852 00:32:29,900 --> 00:32:34,340 - Well, could you, as that marketplace owner, 853 00:32:34,340 --> 00:32:37,140 incentivize the drone owners to sign up by saying, 854 00:32:37,140 --> 00:32:39,260 hey, we'll insure you. 855 00:32:39,260 --> 00:32:41,660 And then you can take a cut of whatever it is 856 00:32:41,660 --> 00:32:46,460 that they make from their rental to insure them. 857 00:32:46,460 --> 00:32:47,300 - That's a great idea. 858 00:32:47,300 --> 00:32:48,120 - And then maybe you have to go through 859 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:49,380 some vetting process to make sure 860 00:32:49,380 --> 00:32:50,820 that they're not just gonna crash their drone 861 00:32:50,820 --> 00:32:52,460 and call your insurance 862 00:32:52,460 --> 00:32:53,860 because they've never flown it before. 863 00:32:53,860 --> 00:32:57,060 You have to go through their obstacle course first, right? 864 00:32:57,060 --> 00:33:00,620 But yeah, maybe that's the play. 865 00:33:00,620 --> 00:33:03,500 - Yeah, yeah, it makes me think about like, 866 00:33:03,500 --> 00:33:05,620 right, like Toro or like every job 867 00:33:05,620 --> 00:33:08,140 you have to pay for insurance, right, or something. 868 00:33:08,140 --> 00:33:11,020 So the insurance is that, I guess it makes, 869 00:33:11,020 --> 00:33:13,140 I didn't realize right when I started thinking 870 00:33:13,140 --> 00:33:14,420 about like the Uber model, 871 00:33:14,420 --> 00:33:16,540 everybody's already got insurance for their car, 872 00:33:16,540 --> 00:33:17,660 they've already got that stuff. 873 00:33:17,660 --> 00:33:20,740 So there's not really like this whole headache process 874 00:33:20,740 --> 00:33:22,800 when you buy, I mean, when you buy a car, 875 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:23,920 you know what you're signing up for, 876 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,060 but with drones, it sounds like it's a pain 877 00:33:26,060 --> 00:33:28,460 to get all your certifications and stuff, right? 878 00:33:28,460 --> 00:33:32,060 So maybe that's where the app comes in, 879 00:33:32,060 --> 00:33:35,780 just getting more drone pilots, certified drone pilots. 880 00:33:35,780 --> 00:33:38,340 Yeah, making all that easy. 881 00:33:38,340 --> 00:33:40,080 - I don't think people, the average person 882 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,620 who's sitting in an office as an accountant or whatever 883 00:33:42,620 --> 00:33:45,660 may not even know what a drone could do to like, 884 00:33:45,660 --> 00:33:48,020 like part of this could be the sales pitch of, 885 00:33:48,020 --> 00:33:50,080 did you know that something that you're dealing with 886 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:51,260 could be made a lot easier 887 00:33:51,260 --> 00:33:53,900 if some drone did it for 20 minutes? 888 00:33:53,900 --> 00:33:57,140 Like you could get some really cool videos of this 889 00:33:57,140 --> 00:33:58,260 or what are some of the other things 890 00:33:58,260 --> 00:34:01,180 that you wish you had drones for that you can't do? 891 00:34:01,180 --> 00:34:02,800 - A 3D model of my home. 892 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,380 I could do that. - Yeah, seriously though. 893 00:34:05,380 --> 00:34:07,340 - Right, like, I don't know. 894 00:34:07,340 --> 00:34:08,940 - Surveying. 895 00:34:08,940 --> 00:34:10,640 - Surveying is a great one. 896 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,020 - Yeah, I mean, roof inspections, 897 00:34:12,020 --> 00:34:12,980 there's something I hate, 898 00:34:12,980 --> 00:34:14,480 have to climb up on the roof, right? 899 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,860 But to say like, did that hail storm damage my roof? 900 00:34:17,860 --> 00:34:22,220 - Ooh, or vice, like what if a roof company just like, 901 00:34:22,220 --> 00:34:27,220 hey, fly a drone out, I'm going to sweep like 100 homes. 902 00:34:27,220 --> 00:34:29,420 I think Kyle is what, maybe what you're saying, 903 00:34:29,420 --> 00:34:32,780 like I can look at 100 homes once 904 00:34:32,780 --> 00:34:35,900 without sending a guy in a truck out there 905 00:34:35,900 --> 00:34:39,120 and it hailed over here, let me check like 100 roofs 906 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,780 and then send my sales team to those five or 10 homes 907 00:34:41,780 --> 00:34:43,260 that probably had the most damage, 908 00:34:43,260 --> 00:34:45,860 like 24 hour turnaround. 909 00:34:45,860 --> 00:34:49,380 That makes money for everybody, I think so. 910 00:34:49,380 --> 00:34:50,220 - Yeah. 911 00:34:51,780 --> 00:34:53,620 I know like cities need this all the time 912 00:34:53,620 --> 00:34:55,900 for like flooding and flooding management, 913 00:34:55,900 --> 00:35:00,600 like topography, home insurance, right? 914 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,260 I think when you get homeowner's insurance, 915 00:35:02,260 --> 00:35:03,820 you could fly a drone. 916 00:35:03,820 --> 00:35:06,860 I mean, there's a ton of small individual uses 917 00:35:06,860 --> 00:35:11,300 that literally people in trucks have to go out and do 918 00:35:11,300 --> 00:35:14,740 that could just instantly be replaced with Droober, 919 00:35:14,740 --> 00:35:15,980 drone Uber. 920 00:35:15,980 --> 00:35:17,380 (laughing) 921 00:35:17,380 --> 00:35:18,220 - Droober. 922 00:35:18,220 --> 00:35:19,040 - Droober. 923 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:20,340 (laughing) 924 00:35:20,340 --> 00:35:22,040 - That was off the cuff, that was. 925 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,300 (laughing) 926 00:35:24,300 --> 00:35:26,100 - Drunk Uber. 927 00:35:26,100 --> 00:35:27,380 - It sounds like drunk Uber. 928 00:35:27,380 --> 00:35:28,220 - Drunk Uber. 929 00:35:28,220 --> 00:35:29,040 (laughing) 930 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:29,880 - Drunk Uber. 931 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:30,720 (laughing) 932 00:35:30,720 --> 00:35:32,460 - Need to work on the branding there. 933 00:35:32,460 --> 00:35:34,200 - Now to be confused with. 934 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:38,820 - If this idea already exists, 935 00:35:38,820 --> 00:35:40,740 I have a way to make it not exist. 936 00:35:40,740 --> 00:35:42,020 If it does, you could, 937 00:35:42,020 --> 00:35:43,580 (laughing) 938 00:35:43,580 --> 00:35:45,900 basically what I'm trying to say is you throw some, 939 00:35:45,900 --> 00:35:47,940 that open street map thing, 940 00:35:47,940 --> 00:35:51,860 but this is all drone mapping, right? 941 00:35:51,860 --> 00:35:55,700 Oh, so you just create a whole new layer to open maps 942 00:35:55,700 --> 00:35:59,300 that's like high quality drone footage and is a layer. 943 00:35:59,300 --> 00:36:00,740 And maybe that's a thing. 944 00:36:00,740 --> 00:36:01,580 Is that a thing? 945 00:36:01,580 --> 00:36:03,140 Leo, you're the map guy, you know? 946 00:36:03,140 --> 00:36:04,500 - You could do satellite, 947 00:36:04,500 --> 00:36:08,140 they work with like Bing aerial satellite stuff, 948 00:36:08,140 --> 00:36:11,180 but there's no like local street view equivalent. 949 00:36:11,180 --> 00:36:12,140 That'd be awesome. 950 00:36:12,140 --> 00:36:13,100 - Like, yeah. 951 00:36:13,100 --> 00:36:15,180 Is there a, can you capture? 952 00:36:15,180 --> 00:36:17,360 I don't even know how legal this, 953 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:18,620 maybe you guys don't know either. 954 00:36:18,620 --> 00:36:21,140 Like, can you capture foot like legally 955 00:36:21,140 --> 00:36:25,700 other people's homes, like fly a drone and video it? 956 00:36:25,700 --> 00:36:27,140 I guess like the satellites do it. 957 00:36:27,140 --> 00:36:29,700 Why can't I fly my drone and do it, right? 958 00:36:29,700 --> 00:36:33,240 - I mean, yeah, the street view truck does it. 959 00:36:33,240 --> 00:36:35,100 You can do it on public streets. 960 00:36:35,100 --> 00:36:36,020 - This is a thing. 961 00:36:36,020 --> 00:36:37,420 We should just create, 962 00:36:37,420 --> 00:36:39,740 why don't we just make our own drone network 963 00:36:39,740 --> 00:36:42,660 and map the entire world from a hundred feet 964 00:36:42,660 --> 00:36:43,800 off the ground, right? 965 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,300 Or maybe a little higher. 966 00:36:46,300 --> 00:36:48,780 Like what's the highest building? 967 00:36:48,780 --> 00:36:50,380 Just like a little bit higher. 968 00:36:50,380 --> 00:36:52,860 - What's the highest the FAA will allow us to fly? 969 00:36:52,860 --> 00:36:53,700 - There we go. 970 00:36:53,700 --> 00:36:55,300 - I think it's 400 meters, isn't it? 971 00:36:55,300 --> 00:36:56,140 Where airspace starts. 972 00:36:56,140 --> 00:36:57,340 - 399. 973 00:36:57,340 --> 00:36:59,500 That's our website, 399.com. 974 00:36:59,500 --> 00:37:00,500 (laughing) 975 00:37:00,500 --> 00:37:01,340 - 399.99. 976 00:37:01,340 --> 00:37:04,220 Data is king, man. 977 00:37:04,220 --> 00:37:05,940 - But that could actually be really nice to do 978 00:37:05,940 --> 00:37:07,860 'cause you know, some of those like 979 00:37:07,860 --> 00:37:10,740 miniature autonomous delivery robots 980 00:37:10,740 --> 00:37:12,820 that just like drive down people's sidewalks 981 00:37:12,820 --> 00:37:14,300 or on campuses. 982 00:37:14,660 --> 00:37:16,340 I don't know what they rely on right now, 983 00:37:16,340 --> 00:37:18,420 but I suspect it's like open street maps 984 00:37:18,420 --> 00:37:19,620 or satellite views, 985 00:37:19,620 --> 00:37:24,620 or they drive down with a camera on the front of them 986 00:37:24,620 --> 00:37:26,300 and then move around. 987 00:37:26,300 --> 00:37:27,460 But to have that aerial view, 988 00:37:27,460 --> 00:37:31,220 that's not quite so satellite based 989 00:37:31,220 --> 00:37:33,780 could be really good data 990 00:37:33,780 --> 00:37:37,060 for that kind of robotic application. 991 00:37:37,060 --> 00:37:39,100 - I looked, it's 400 feet, not 400 meters. 992 00:37:39,100 --> 00:37:40,380 I was close. 993 00:37:40,380 --> 00:37:42,660 Don't do 400 feet to drone and blame us. 994 00:37:43,580 --> 00:37:47,340 - So then the drones dock on top of Amazon delivery trucks 995 00:37:47,340 --> 00:37:48,900 and that's how they recharge. 996 00:37:48,900 --> 00:37:49,740 - Oh God. 997 00:37:49,740 --> 00:37:52,220 - Wait, did we talk about this idea already or no? 998 00:37:52,220 --> 00:37:53,060 (laughing) 999 00:37:53,060 --> 00:37:53,900 - Something like that. 1000 00:37:53,900 --> 00:37:55,300 (laughing) 1001 00:37:55,300 --> 00:37:57,700 - Did you ever see that render of the like 1002 00:37:57,700 --> 00:38:01,740 Hindenburg size blimp with the Amazon logo on it? 1003 00:38:01,740 --> 00:38:02,580 - Yes, that's right. 1004 00:38:02,580 --> 00:38:04,180 - And it's like going over a town 1005 00:38:04,180 --> 00:38:06,540 while "Ride of the Valkyries" is playing in the background. 1006 00:38:06,540 --> 00:38:07,380 - Absolutely apocalyptic. 1007 00:38:07,380 --> 00:38:09,380 - And like thousands of drones are coming down, 1008 00:38:09,380 --> 00:38:12,780 delivering packages and going back up to the mothership. 1009 00:38:12,780 --> 00:38:14,460 - I need my crock pot now. 1010 00:38:14,460 --> 00:38:16,700 (laughing) 1011 00:38:16,700 --> 00:38:18,700 - All right, I gotta check something. 1012 00:38:18,700 --> 00:38:21,180 How many square, like what if I paid a dollar 1013 00:38:21,180 --> 00:38:25,620 per square mile of land, right? 1014 00:38:25,620 --> 00:38:29,140 So like, let's just create a bounty. 1015 00:38:29,140 --> 00:38:32,460 We're gonna map the entire United States. 1016 00:38:32,460 --> 00:38:36,140 How many square miles in the US? 1017 00:38:36,140 --> 00:38:40,340 Okay, guess. 1018 00:38:40,340 --> 00:38:41,180 You guys get it? 1019 00:38:41,180 --> 00:38:42,620 This is actually like, I-- 1020 00:38:42,620 --> 00:38:43,620 - Jeez. 1021 00:38:43,620 --> 00:38:47,060 - Square miles. 1022 00:38:47,060 --> 00:38:49,060 - Programming language. 1023 00:38:49,060 --> 00:38:52,220 - Square miles, 2.5 million. 1024 00:38:52,220 --> 00:38:54,980 - 800 million. 1025 00:38:54,980 --> 00:38:59,980 - 3.797 million. 1026 00:38:59,980 --> 00:39:02,220 So just under 4 million. 1027 00:39:02,220 --> 00:39:03,060 So you get a-- 1028 00:39:03,060 --> 00:39:03,900 - I was close. 1029 00:39:03,900 --> 00:39:05,060 (laughing) 1030 00:39:05,060 --> 00:39:07,100 - Sorry, Kyle, I just was like so excited. 1031 00:39:07,100 --> 00:39:09,940 This is basically, you're saying like, 1032 00:39:09,940 --> 00:39:14,300 all right, capture a square mile, set a bounty, right? 1033 00:39:14,300 --> 00:39:16,900 Get a VC firm to say, all right, 1034 00:39:16,900 --> 00:39:20,500 we're gonna capture $100 per square mile. 1035 00:39:20,500 --> 00:39:22,780 And you could just create entire companies. 1036 00:39:22,780 --> 00:39:26,140 And now you have the most accurate map 1037 00:39:26,140 --> 00:39:31,140 of the continental USA in, for 400, what, I mean, 1038 00:39:31,140 --> 00:39:35,500 if you give 100 bucks per square mile, yeah. 1039 00:39:35,500 --> 00:39:36,340 400 million bucks. 1040 00:39:36,340 --> 00:39:38,660 - I don't think you can fly over private land. 1041 00:39:38,660 --> 00:39:39,700 - Why not? 1042 00:39:39,700 --> 00:39:41,500 - I think you can be in public streets, 1043 00:39:41,500 --> 00:39:44,500 but I don't think you can just go over someone's house. 1044 00:39:44,500 --> 00:39:47,940 Or if you can, maybe they have the right to shoot you down. 1045 00:39:47,940 --> 00:39:48,780 - Oh, I don't know. 1046 00:39:48,780 --> 00:39:52,700 - We'll start selling equipment to shoot down drones. 1047 00:39:52,700 --> 00:39:54,060 - This is why we need comments. 1048 00:39:54,060 --> 00:39:56,740 This is why we need the listeners on the live stream. 1049 00:39:56,740 --> 00:39:58,660 - You can't fly near airports either. 1050 00:39:58,660 --> 00:39:59,860 - All right, then you skip over those. 1051 00:39:59,860 --> 00:40:00,700 - There's no flight zones. 1052 00:40:00,700 --> 00:40:01,620 - Save us some money. 1053 00:40:01,620 --> 00:40:05,100 Just save our investors some money. 1054 00:40:05,100 --> 00:40:05,940 - I like that, though. 1055 00:40:05,940 --> 00:40:07,460 You increase the bounty for areas 1056 00:40:07,460 --> 00:40:09,580 that people aren't likely to go. 1057 00:40:09,580 --> 00:40:11,300 So out in the middle of the desert, 1058 00:40:11,300 --> 00:40:12,420 no one wants to go there, 1059 00:40:12,420 --> 00:40:14,780 but it's gonna be 10 times the prices 1060 00:40:14,780 --> 00:40:17,060 just flying down New York City or something. 1061 00:40:17,060 --> 00:40:17,900 - Dude. 1062 00:40:17,900 --> 00:40:19,060 - When Waze first started, 1063 00:40:19,060 --> 00:40:21,380 every map on the whole map had little dots, 1064 00:40:21,380 --> 00:40:23,940 and then your character was Pac-Man-ing them up 1065 00:40:23,940 --> 00:40:25,820 to get you to drive over and map, 1066 00:40:25,820 --> 00:40:27,460 like, where are these roads exactly? 1067 00:40:27,460 --> 00:40:29,260 And a lot of the roads were either missing or wrong, 1068 00:40:29,260 --> 00:40:30,980 but then when you went around, 1069 00:40:30,980 --> 00:40:32,660 you were correcting the map for everyone else. 1070 00:40:32,660 --> 00:40:33,500 It was really cool. 1071 00:40:33,500 --> 00:40:34,340 - That's awesome. 1072 00:40:34,340 --> 00:40:35,820 - And incentivized you to, like, gamify, you know? 1073 00:40:35,820 --> 00:40:36,660 Same idea. 1074 00:40:36,660 --> 00:40:38,380 - Yeah, I think we actually talked about this 1075 00:40:38,380 --> 00:40:41,300 on the OpenStreetMaps thing that you had on the last one. 1076 00:40:41,300 --> 00:40:42,140 - Maybe. 1077 00:40:42,140 --> 00:40:43,580 - Just setting coordinates, 1078 00:40:43,580 --> 00:40:46,180 and people could set bounties, right? 1079 00:40:46,180 --> 00:40:48,260 And then that, you know, I put, 1080 00:40:48,260 --> 00:40:50,420 if you capture this square mile, 1081 00:40:50,420 --> 00:40:52,860 I'll throw $10 in, and now it becomes, like, 1082 00:40:52,860 --> 00:40:55,460 an ever-growing pot, and certain areas are, like, 1083 00:40:55,460 --> 00:40:58,980 if you map it, we got 100 contributors 1084 00:40:58,980 --> 00:41:01,020 that would pay X amount of dollars 1085 00:41:01,020 --> 00:41:02,820 to get this map on the map, 1086 00:41:02,820 --> 00:41:05,620 and so we'd facilitate and take fees off of that, right? 1087 00:41:05,740 --> 00:41:10,340 So, like, just the accuracy of satellite data is just, 1088 00:41:10,340 --> 00:41:11,460 (grunts) 1089 00:41:11,460 --> 00:41:12,300 just too, yeah. 1090 00:41:12,300 --> 00:41:13,140 - Totally. 1091 00:41:13,140 --> 00:41:15,420 Russell, I have come so close in the last 12 months 1092 00:41:15,420 --> 00:41:18,020 to buying a drone, and each time I talk myself out of it, 1093 00:41:18,020 --> 00:41:19,580 because I know it would, like you said, 1094 00:41:19,580 --> 00:41:20,420 it would sit in a corner, 1095 00:41:20,420 --> 00:41:22,060 but if I could scratch the itch 1096 00:41:22,060 --> 00:41:24,140 by renting one a couple of times, 1097 00:41:24,140 --> 00:41:26,220 I would be a customer, absolutely. 1098 00:41:26,220 --> 00:41:28,900 - See, we could also crowdsource a drone, Leo. 1099 00:41:28,900 --> 00:41:33,500 All four of us here could just be part owners of a drone, 1100 00:41:33,500 --> 00:41:34,580 right, like? 1101 00:41:35,420 --> 00:41:36,260 - Hmm. 1102 00:41:36,260 --> 00:41:38,420 - Always spitballing, A-B-S. 1103 00:41:38,420 --> 00:41:40,300 (laughs) 1104 00:41:40,300 --> 00:41:42,620 - A-B-C, always spitballing. 1105 00:41:42,620 --> 00:41:44,700 (laughs) 1106 00:41:44,700 --> 00:41:47,300 (upbeat music) 1107 00:41:47,300 --> 00:41:51,300 - Kyle, love to hear your idea. 1108 00:41:51,300 --> 00:41:54,180 - Yeah, all right, so in my spare time here, 1109 00:41:54,180 --> 00:41:57,220 I like to mess around with smart home equipment, 1110 00:41:57,220 --> 00:42:01,260 so I've probably got a dozen or so different sensors 1111 00:42:01,260 --> 00:42:03,420 floating around the house of one form or another, 1112 00:42:03,420 --> 00:42:05,500 taking temperature, checking to make sure 1113 00:42:05,500 --> 00:42:08,620 my sink's not leaking, so on and so forth. 1114 00:42:08,620 --> 00:42:11,300 Leo, you're not in your head, you're a smart home guy too. 1115 00:42:11,300 --> 00:42:12,140 - Oh yeah. 1116 00:42:12,140 --> 00:42:14,940 - Yeah, so you can probably relate to this then. 1117 00:42:14,940 --> 00:42:18,340 My dozen or so sensors have a dozen or so 1118 00:42:18,340 --> 00:42:21,220 different types of batteries that they all take. 1119 00:42:21,220 --> 00:42:23,860 So, and you know, I've got double A's, triple A's, 1120 00:42:23,860 --> 00:42:26,100 seven different types of coin cells, 1121 00:42:26,100 --> 00:42:27,140 all sitting in my house, 1122 00:42:27,140 --> 00:42:30,180 and all have to get changed every six months, a year, 1123 00:42:30,180 --> 00:42:31,260 whatever it is that they are, 1124 00:42:31,260 --> 00:42:32,820 and some of these are in hard to reach places too, 1125 00:42:32,820 --> 00:42:34,660 you know, up in an attic, down in a crawl space, 1126 00:42:34,660 --> 00:42:36,820 places you really don't wanna go all that often, 1127 00:42:36,820 --> 00:42:38,100 that's why you've got a sensor there 1128 00:42:38,100 --> 00:42:39,820 to tell you if something goes wrong. 1129 00:42:39,820 --> 00:42:43,180 So, that's a big problem. 1130 00:42:43,180 --> 00:42:45,140 One of the ways that companies are starting 1131 00:42:45,140 --> 00:42:48,660 to account for this is they're really getting into 1132 00:42:48,660 --> 00:42:51,100 like alternative energy and energy harvesting, right? 1133 00:42:51,100 --> 00:42:53,760 So if you can take solar power 1134 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,660 and power all these smart home sensors, well, that's great. 1135 00:42:56,660 --> 00:42:59,620 Now you don't ever have to change the batteries. 1136 00:42:59,620 --> 00:43:01,460 One big thing that they're really starting it into 1137 00:43:01,460 --> 00:43:03,700 is RF harvesting. 1138 00:43:03,700 --> 00:43:08,580 So it's using the wifi signals or Bluetooth in your house. 1139 00:43:08,580 --> 00:43:10,460 There's just all this excess energy 1140 00:43:10,460 --> 00:43:12,420 that's bouncing around your house all the time 1141 00:43:12,420 --> 00:43:14,860 that you're not doing anything with, 1142 00:43:14,860 --> 00:43:19,860 but these sensors can pick it up and just sit there churning, 1143 00:43:19,860 --> 00:43:22,500 picking up this power, absorbing it, absorbing, 1144 00:43:22,500 --> 00:43:25,260 and then once every 15 minutes or half an hour, 1145 00:43:25,260 --> 00:43:27,480 they've got enough information or enough power now 1146 00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:32,440 to turn on, take a temperature, spit it out over wifi, 1147 00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,120 and go back to sleep. 1148 00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,760 And then they just sit there for another 15, 20 minutes 1149 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:38,480 picking up more energy. 1150 00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,400 So as those start to come out, 1151 00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,600 people are gonna start purchasing those 1152 00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,600 'cause you never have to change batteries in those again. 1153 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,640 So that's just great. 1154 00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:49,040 The challenge is that's gonna create 1155 00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:50,800 a whole ton of electronic waste 1156 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,620 because people are just gonna go scrap these other pieces 1157 00:43:53,620 --> 00:43:55,600 that they never wanna change batteries again, 1158 00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,080 so why would they? 1159 00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:58,960 Plus you got all these kids toys too, right? 1160 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:00,800 Lots of other things to take battery. 1161 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:05,800 So my idea is to use that same energy harvesting concept, 1162 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,000 but package that into the same form factor 1163 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:10,840 as a typical battery. - Oh man. 1164 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,960 - And then now you've got these batteries 1165 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:15,920 that never go bad. 1166 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:17,160 It's the last battery you ever buy. 1167 00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,960 So you take six of these energy harvesting 1168 00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:21,880 triple A size batteries, 1169 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,800 you slop them into your kid's RC car, 1170 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:26,380 and you don't have to worry about changing the batteries 1171 00:44:26,380 --> 00:44:29,680 if they forget to turn it off, right? 1172 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,040 You can just drive this thing around. 1173 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,880 So now you've got this interim solution 1174 00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:35,080 for smart home stuff, 1175 00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:36,040 but you can also use this 1176 00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,840 for any other battery application you need. 1177 00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:42,320 - I have always been fascinated by RF harvesting. 1178 00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,680 Is it fringe science? 1179 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:48,980 Is it, can you actually get enough to power a wifi radio 1180 00:44:48,980 --> 00:44:51,760 or like matter or something low power? 1181 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:53,480 - I mean, yeah, with patience, right? 1182 00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:57,540 It all comes to how much data you need to send 1183 00:44:57,540 --> 00:44:59,700 and how long you're willing to wait 1184 00:44:59,700 --> 00:45:01,180 for that message to go across. 1185 00:45:01,180 --> 00:45:03,540 But absolutely, I don't know, 1186 00:45:03,540 --> 00:45:05,140 it's probably like a one watt. 1187 00:45:05,140 --> 00:45:05,980 - That's enough, yeah. 1188 00:45:05,980 --> 00:45:09,420 - Would be my guess for a typical broadcast 1189 00:45:09,420 --> 00:45:12,500 of a typical wireless router. 1190 00:45:12,500 --> 00:45:13,620 There you go, my router. 1191 00:45:13,620 --> 00:45:15,180 Probably 500 watts. 1192 00:45:15,180 --> 00:45:17,340 I don't know what it is, but yeah. 1193 00:45:17,340 --> 00:45:19,940 - If our intro to engineering class, 1194 00:45:19,940 --> 00:45:23,140 it blew my mind when the professor took 1195 00:45:23,140 --> 00:45:26,540 just like a wire, hooked it up to a headphone 1196 00:45:26,540 --> 00:45:30,060 and the wire was coiled as an inductor to the point 1197 00:45:30,060 --> 00:45:32,260 that there was nothing powering the system. 1198 00:45:32,260 --> 00:45:33,660 It was just a breadboard, 1199 00:45:33,660 --> 00:45:35,820 but you could still put that headphone up to your ear 1200 00:45:35,820 --> 00:45:39,840 and pick up the local FM radio or AM radio on there. 1201 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:44,100 And it was just feeding energy from the air 1202 00:45:44,100 --> 00:45:46,740 enough to power it so that you could actually hear something 1203 00:45:46,740 --> 00:45:49,500 that blew my mind that there's so much energy 1204 00:45:49,500 --> 00:45:51,700 just floating around all the time. 1205 00:45:51,700 --> 00:45:53,260 - Tin foil. - There's stories of Brinkley. 1206 00:45:53,260 --> 00:45:56,440 There was this huckster who lived, I think, 1207 00:45:56,440 --> 00:46:00,300 in Texas or somewhere out South who was broadcasting 1208 00:46:00,300 --> 00:46:03,260 like snake oil commercials over the radio. 1209 00:46:03,260 --> 00:46:04,580 And he had this pirate radio station 1210 00:46:04,580 --> 00:46:07,060 that was way over the legal limits in the USA. 1211 00:46:07,060 --> 00:46:08,980 So he moved right over to Mexico 1212 00:46:08,980 --> 00:46:11,740 and he had this like 1000 watt transmitter, 1213 00:46:11,740 --> 00:46:13,740 something insane that was way, way more 1214 00:46:13,740 --> 00:46:14,580 than it should have been. 1215 00:46:14,580 --> 00:46:15,980 And people talked about in nearby towns, 1216 00:46:15,980 --> 00:46:17,820 their bed springs would play the radio. 1217 00:46:17,820 --> 00:46:19,980 (laughing) 1218 00:46:19,980 --> 00:46:20,820 - Oh my God. 1219 00:46:21,660 --> 00:46:26,020 They could hear it in like pots and pans and stuff. 1220 00:46:26,020 --> 00:46:28,180 - So if I got a big, like, let's say, 1221 00:46:28,180 --> 00:46:29,940 I'm thinking of this as like an antenna. 1222 00:46:29,940 --> 00:46:32,260 Like if I got a bigger antenna, 1223 00:46:32,260 --> 00:46:34,420 like would it produce more power? 1224 00:46:34,420 --> 00:46:35,620 Is that a thing? 1225 00:46:35,620 --> 00:46:40,540 Like if I bought a giant cover for the ceiling of my office, 1226 00:46:40,540 --> 00:46:45,540 could I power or charge more with a bigger net, right? 1227 00:46:45,540 --> 00:46:48,620 - Yeah, I don't think it has to do 1228 00:46:48,620 --> 00:46:50,180 with the size of the antenna so much 1229 00:46:50,180 --> 00:46:51,980 as it has to do with the power supply 1230 00:46:51,980 --> 00:46:53,740 that's powering the antenna. 1231 00:46:53,740 --> 00:46:58,100 So I think you need like a 500 milliwatt antenna 1232 00:46:58,100 --> 00:47:01,220 to actually get your, I don't know, FM radio. 1233 00:47:01,220 --> 00:47:03,140 I'm throwing numbers out here. 1234 00:47:03,140 --> 00:47:04,500 But if you have like a one watt, 1235 00:47:04,500 --> 00:47:08,060 now suddenly you can go 17 times the distance. 1236 00:47:08,060 --> 00:47:10,700 - Ah, okay, okay, that makes sense. 1237 00:47:10,700 --> 00:47:13,460 'Cause I was about to go big with that. 1238 00:47:13,460 --> 00:47:15,700 (laughing) 1239 00:47:15,700 --> 00:47:18,540 That was real, I was like, whoa. 1240 00:47:18,540 --> 00:47:21,100 - He was about to invent wireless extension cords. 1241 00:47:21,100 --> 00:47:23,580 (laughing) 1242 00:47:23,580 --> 00:47:27,300 - I just want a way to never have to change the battery 1243 00:47:27,300 --> 00:47:30,180 in my fricking fire alarm ever again. 1244 00:47:30,180 --> 00:47:31,020 That's-- 1245 00:47:31,020 --> 00:47:32,420 - Oh, your smoke detector. 1246 00:47:32,420 --> 00:47:34,260 I bought new smoke detectors recently 1247 00:47:34,260 --> 00:47:37,060 and they had a sealed in lithium ion battery. 1248 00:47:37,060 --> 00:47:39,620 And it made me angry that I went my whole life 1249 00:47:39,620 --> 00:47:40,900 without having that. 1250 00:47:40,900 --> 00:47:43,660 'Cause yeah, it just needs to stay charged for 10 years 1251 00:47:43,660 --> 00:47:45,380 and then they're not good anymore anyway. 1252 00:47:45,380 --> 00:47:46,740 - Right. - Yeah, yeah. 1253 00:47:46,740 --> 00:47:47,580 But I know what you mean. 1254 00:47:47,580 --> 00:47:48,700 - There's a lot of things like that too. 1255 00:47:48,700 --> 00:47:50,060 - Clocks, right? 1256 00:47:50,060 --> 00:47:53,620 Like changing a clock battery is like the worst. 1257 00:47:53,620 --> 00:47:56,980 - I know, I'm thinking remote controls right now. 1258 00:47:56,980 --> 00:47:59,740 Like every remote or Roku or whatever, 1259 00:47:59,740 --> 00:48:02,020 they would just have a self-charging battery. 1260 00:48:02,020 --> 00:48:04,740 The power consumption on them is so minimal 1261 00:48:04,740 --> 00:48:06,220 and so sporadic. 1262 00:48:06,220 --> 00:48:07,940 It would always be fully charged 1263 00:48:07,940 --> 00:48:12,020 if it could just pick up AM whatever station on there 1264 00:48:12,020 --> 00:48:13,420 and charge itself up. 1265 00:48:13,420 --> 00:48:14,780 - Yeah, Xbox controller. 1266 00:48:14,780 --> 00:48:16,420 - Xbox controller, that's a great one. 1267 00:48:16,420 --> 00:48:17,660 - You could charge that thing. 1268 00:48:17,660 --> 00:48:20,340 - Especially when it like sits around all, 1269 00:48:20,340 --> 00:48:21,860 like for a whole day. 1270 00:48:21,860 --> 00:48:23,060 - Right. - It doesn't do anything. 1271 00:48:23,060 --> 00:48:23,900 Right? 1272 00:48:23,900 --> 00:48:26,980 - 99% of the time, it's just chilling there 1273 00:48:26,980 --> 00:48:29,380 until you press a button on it or something. 1274 00:48:29,380 --> 00:48:30,340 - Totally. 1275 00:48:30,340 --> 00:48:32,260 And smart home is the perfect application for this. 1276 00:48:32,260 --> 00:48:33,140 You're totally right. 1277 00:48:33,140 --> 00:48:34,900 With new protocols like matter and stuff, 1278 00:48:34,900 --> 00:48:36,700 a lot of them are really low power. 1279 00:48:36,700 --> 00:48:38,700 - Yeah, 'cause then you can toss sensors 1280 00:48:38,700 --> 00:48:41,060 like literally into the wall 1281 00:48:41,060 --> 00:48:42,460 and you can drywall over top. 1282 00:48:42,460 --> 00:48:43,300 - Oh man. - And just forget about it. 1283 00:48:43,300 --> 00:48:44,220 - You don't have to worry about it, right? 1284 00:48:44,220 --> 00:48:45,220 - Your whole wall. 1285 00:48:45,220 --> 00:48:48,580 - You were telling me that you put a accelerometer 1286 00:48:48,580 --> 00:48:52,140 on your washing machine and had it text you if, 1287 00:48:52,140 --> 00:48:54,860 hey, the laundry, it stopped jiggling 1288 00:48:54,860 --> 00:48:56,580 so the laundry's done and let you know. 1289 00:48:56,580 --> 00:48:58,100 And I thought that was the most brilliant thing 1290 00:48:58,100 --> 00:48:59,300 I've ever heard. 1291 00:48:59,300 --> 00:49:02,540 - Hold on, I'm an Amazon Zigbee vibration sensor. 1292 00:49:02,540 --> 00:49:04,660 Thank you very much, Kyle. 1293 00:49:04,660 --> 00:49:09,020 - Can we, wait, Kyle, I think you're saying like, 1294 00:49:09,020 --> 00:49:12,940 can I put a, like paint over, replace drywall, right? 1295 00:49:12,940 --> 00:49:14,780 I just put a giant sticker on the wall 1296 00:49:14,780 --> 00:49:18,500 and now I could put devices all over the wall. 1297 00:49:18,500 --> 00:49:21,340 - Wallpapers back, baby. 1298 00:49:21,340 --> 00:49:23,860 - Yeah, like could you just like have a, 1299 00:49:23,860 --> 00:49:26,420 I mean, this would be a cool, or like a toy. 1300 00:49:26,420 --> 00:49:28,220 Let's say you make this into a kid's toy, right? 1301 00:49:28,220 --> 00:49:30,340 Or something, you just have like a board 1302 00:49:30,340 --> 00:49:33,100 and all of a sudden, whatever you put on the board 1303 00:49:33,100 --> 00:49:38,100 is receiving power from like this wireless mats or whatever. 1304 00:49:38,100 --> 00:49:39,940 And now you're just like creating it, 1305 00:49:39,940 --> 00:49:41,460 like it just is magic. 1306 00:49:41,460 --> 00:49:43,940 It looks like magic, it acts like magic. 1307 00:49:43,940 --> 00:49:46,260 - Yeah, you could absolutely do that. 1308 00:49:46,260 --> 00:49:51,260 Actually, I saw a place, I was at CES back in 2021 1309 00:49:51,260 --> 00:49:54,900 and they had a really cool place there 1310 00:49:54,900 --> 00:49:57,300 that had a, like a transmitter box 1311 00:49:57,300 --> 00:49:58,780 up in a corner of their room. 1312 00:49:58,780 --> 00:50:02,820 And it was just blasting probably five Watts of power. 1313 00:50:02,820 --> 00:50:04,660 I don't know, it wasn't a ton, 1314 00:50:04,660 --> 00:50:06,660 but it was enough to wirelessly charge 1315 00:50:06,660 --> 00:50:11,660 every single different thing in their demonstration area. 1316 00:50:12,300 --> 00:50:14,820 So they had like three or four different phones 1317 00:50:14,820 --> 00:50:17,340 that had this little plug hooked in there 1318 00:50:17,340 --> 00:50:19,900 that were receiving power from this. 1319 00:50:19,900 --> 00:50:21,220 And now all of a sudden, 1320 00:50:21,220 --> 00:50:23,300 your phone just gets trickle charged all the time. 1321 00:50:23,300 --> 00:50:24,580 Your tablets get trickle charged, 1322 00:50:24,580 --> 00:50:26,940 your TV can be powered through this little box 1323 00:50:26,940 --> 00:50:28,600 that sits up in the corner. 1324 00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:31,340 Now you're gonna get on, I'm sure all sorts of like 1325 00:50:31,340 --> 00:50:32,540 health concerns around. 1326 00:50:32,540 --> 00:50:33,380 - I was just thinking that. 1327 00:50:33,380 --> 00:50:35,100 - How much power am I gonna, 1328 00:50:35,100 --> 00:50:37,660 am I X-raying myself every day? 1329 00:50:37,660 --> 00:50:40,220 - Irradiating my body overnight. 1330 00:50:40,220 --> 00:50:42,100 - So that's why I like your original idea, 1331 00:50:42,100 --> 00:50:43,100 just 'cause it's-- 1332 00:50:43,100 --> 00:50:43,940 - It's already there. 1333 00:50:43,940 --> 00:50:45,900 - Hey, we're using existing, you know, 1334 00:50:45,900 --> 00:50:50,020 radio stations or existing 2.4 gigahertz Wi-Fi 1335 00:50:50,020 --> 00:50:52,980 to trickle charge everything we possibly can. 1336 00:50:52,980 --> 00:50:54,260 - Can I ask a naive question? 1337 00:50:54,260 --> 00:50:55,860 If I had a bunch of these all over my house, 1338 00:50:55,860 --> 00:50:57,740 would my Wi-Fi signal be down? 1339 00:50:57,740 --> 00:50:59,420 Like would I have less RF power 1340 00:50:59,420 --> 00:51:00,660 penetrated through the walls and stuff? 1341 00:51:00,660 --> 00:51:03,460 'Cause I'm taking that energy and using it. 1342 00:51:03,460 --> 00:51:04,740 - I don't actually know. 1343 00:51:04,740 --> 00:51:06,660 I don't think so though. 1344 00:51:06,660 --> 00:51:08,380 - Huh, yeah, me either. 1345 00:51:08,380 --> 00:51:10,100 - I mean, presumably, I mean, yeah, 1346 00:51:10,100 --> 00:51:13,220 'cause the power does like bounce off of all these things. 1347 00:51:13,220 --> 00:51:15,980 And so when it, now something is absorbing it, 1348 00:51:15,980 --> 00:51:17,620 it will pick up some of that power. 1349 00:51:17,620 --> 00:51:20,860 So maybe, but I don't know how many devices 1350 00:51:20,860 --> 00:51:25,660 you'd have to do to like really make that affect you really. 1351 00:51:25,660 --> 00:51:27,620 - This is free energy in a way, right? 1352 00:51:27,620 --> 00:51:30,100 'Cause other people already paying for it 1353 00:51:30,100 --> 00:51:33,220 are like radio stations and all that stuff. 1354 00:51:33,220 --> 00:51:34,220 So like-- 1355 00:51:34,220 --> 00:51:36,020 - Yeah, or you're paying for it, right? 1356 00:51:36,020 --> 00:51:38,500 By broadcasting your Wi-Fi signal out too. 1357 00:51:38,500 --> 00:51:41,540 So in a way it's, right, 1358 00:51:41,540 --> 00:51:45,540 it just seems like if I put a hundred batteries 1359 00:51:45,540 --> 00:51:49,820 in my basement or like on my roof, right? 1360 00:51:49,820 --> 00:51:53,820 Could I just like trickle charge for as a generator? 1361 00:51:53,820 --> 00:51:58,420 Like, all right, my power goes out once every two years. 1362 00:51:58,420 --> 00:52:01,460 But when it does, I have been trickle charging 1363 00:52:01,460 --> 00:52:05,300 for the last, I've been trickle charging. 1364 00:52:05,300 --> 00:52:06,900 - From the local radio station. 1365 00:52:07,940 --> 00:52:11,220 I feel like solar is probably way more worth your time 1366 00:52:11,220 --> 00:52:12,060 than the local radio station. 1367 00:52:12,060 --> 00:52:13,060 - I guess so, Leo. 1368 00:52:13,060 --> 00:52:15,980 I guess that makes sense, right? 1369 00:52:15,980 --> 00:52:16,820 - Yeah. 1370 00:52:16,820 --> 00:52:18,660 (laughing) 1371 00:52:18,660 --> 00:52:20,580 Not to know about you, but. 1372 00:52:20,580 --> 00:52:22,940 - Yeah, why would I even buy a device then? 1373 00:52:22,940 --> 00:52:25,820 I guess I could just buy a generator, right? 1374 00:52:25,820 --> 00:52:26,660 Yeah. 1375 00:52:26,660 --> 00:52:29,420 - I wanna jump back to the CES thing you were saying, Kyle. 1376 00:52:29,420 --> 00:52:32,580 Like were these like actual plugs 1377 00:52:32,580 --> 00:52:34,900 that I put into devices to power them? 1378 00:52:34,900 --> 00:52:37,620 'Cause what you described, I'm picturing like, 1379 00:52:37,620 --> 00:52:42,620 so an Android or iPhone phone, something with that, 1380 00:52:42,620 --> 00:52:44,620 I guess it's all USB-C now, 1381 00:52:44,620 --> 00:52:47,260 a USB-C device that always is trickle charging, 1382 00:52:47,260 --> 00:52:49,940 that you have always plugged into the bottom of your phone. 1383 00:52:49,940 --> 00:52:52,740 So your phone is always slowly trickle charging 1384 00:52:52,740 --> 00:52:53,580 no matter where you go. 1385 00:52:53,580 --> 00:52:55,060 - Yeah, that's basically the idea. 1386 00:52:55,060 --> 00:52:56,820 - Based on local Wi-Fi or radio. 1387 00:52:56,820 --> 00:52:57,780 - Yeah, so basically it's like, 1388 00:52:57,780 --> 00:53:00,180 yeah, it plugs in USB-C to your phone. 1389 00:53:00,180 --> 00:53:02,460 And then it's just like this little circuit board 1390 00:53:02,460 --> 00:53:04,580 that probably sticks to the back of the phone, 1391 00:53:04,580 --> 00:53:06,900 it would be my guess, or maybe it's the case. 1392 00:53:06,900 --> 00:53:10,820 And then it just absorbs all that energy 1393 00:53:10,820 --> 00:53:13,300 and transmits it into your phone as it needs it. 1394 00:53:13,300 --> 00:53:14,860 - It's crazy that there's enough wattage 1395 00:53:14,860 --> 00:53:15,940 to actually make that useful. 1396 00:53:15,940 --> 00:53:17,100 - That's awesome. 1397 00:53:17,100 --> 00:53:19,300 - Yeah, I don't, again, don't know what sort of wattage 1398 00:53:19,300 --> 00:53:21,340 they were pumping out of that thing, but. 1399 00:53:21,340 --> 00:53:22,300 - This needs to exist. 1400 00:53:22,300 --> 00:53:23,460 This needs to exist. 1401 00:53:23,460 --> 00:53:26,100 - There goes your potential sponsorship from Duracell. 1402 00:53:26,100 --> 00:53:29,540 Never gonna see a penny from them. 1403 00:53:29,540 --> 00:53:31,660 - We'll go with a dollar store battery. 1404 00:53:31,660 --> 00:53:32,860 That's more our speed. 1405 00:53:35,060 --> 00:53:37,020 - That's who's gonna sponsor. 1406 00:53:37,020 --> 00:53:38,940 - Well, thank you Duracell for listening. 1407 00:53:38,940 --> 00:53:40,620 And thank you for listening, listener. 1408 00:53:40,620 --> 00:53:42,140 We hope you enjoyed yourself this evening. 1409 00:53:42,140 --> 00:53:43,420 And thank you, Kyle, for being here. 1410 00:53:43,420 --> 00:53:44,260 This was lovely. 1411 00:53:44,260 --> 00:53:45,660 - Yeah. - Thanks, had a great time. 1412 00:53:45,660 --> 00:53:47,780 - Our website is Spitball.show. 1413 00:53:47,780 --> 00:53:49,580 There you can find links to YouTube channel 1414 00:53:49,580 --> 00:53:51,700 for all you Google Podcast refugees, 1415 00:53:51,700 --> 00:53:54,500 other social medias, all on there, Spitball.show. 1416 00:53:54,500 --> 00:53:56,740 And email us feedback, comments, ideas, 1417 00:53:56,740 --> 00:53:58,500 we're podcast@Spitball.show. 1418 00:53:58,500 --> 00:54:00,340 That's also how you can follow us on the Fediverse, 1419 00:54:00,340 --> 00:54:03,500 such as Mastodon, and supposedly Instagram threads. 1420 00:54:03,500 --> 00:54:07,500 Soon we'll see, just try to follow @podcasts@Spitball.show. 1421 00:54:07,500 --> 00:54:09,300 Our subreddit is r/spitballshow. 1422 00:54:09,300 --> 00:54:12,380 Our intro/outro music is Swingers by Bonkers Beat Club. 1423 00:54:12,380 --> 00:54:13,700 Please, if you wouldn't mind, 1424 00:54:13,700 --> 00:54:16,380 open up that podcast app that you're listening to right now 1425 00:54:16,380 --> 00:54:18,860 before the show ends in a couple of seconds 1426 00:54:18,860 --> 00:54:20,300 and try to give us a five-star review 1427 00:54:20,300 --> 00:54:21,620 as fast as you possibly can. 1428 00:54:21,620 --> 00:54:24,860 Subscribe, add, rate, whatever your button has, press it. 1429 00:54:24,860 --> 00:54:25,700 We'd love that. 1430 00:54:25,700 --> 00:54:27,380 It's the best way for people to find the show. 1431 00:54:27,380 --> 00:54:30,380 New episode is coming out in two weeks. 1432 00:54:30,380 --> 00:54:31,220 See you then. 1433 00:54:31,220 --> 00:54:33,800 (upbeat music) 1434 00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,260 [DRAMATIC MUSIC]