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- I'm Scott.

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- I'm Russell.

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- And I'm Leo.

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This is Spitball.

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Welcome to Spitball, the pitchin' kitchen,

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where three pixel pioneers empty our heads

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of startup and tech product ideas

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that we have stuck up in there

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so you can all have them for free.

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Anything that we say is yours to keep.

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Russell, you brought a guest along this week, yeah?

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- I did, future daddy, current daddy,

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friend of the podcast, tech guru in some lights,

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quality engineer, messes with chemicals and batteries,

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Marshall, welcome.

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- Hello everyone, thank you for having me.

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- Chemical daddy.

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- We're so glad to have you.

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This is gonna be a lot of fun.

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And this week, thanks to your idea,

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we're gonna be playing a game

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that we're calling Intermurals.

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So we're gonna give ourselves roughly a minute or two

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for one of our reject ideas

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that doesn't deserve a whole episode.

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So who wants to start us off?

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It was your idea, Marshall, you wanna be the first?

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- Yeah, sure.

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So the-- - All right, what do you got?

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- The one that I got right off the bat

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is a retractable blanket for--

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(laughing)

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For the neat freaks who like to be cozy.

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I'm just, I'm one of those neat freaks

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and I don't like leaving blankets all over the living room

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and I can just picture this kind of retractable blanket.

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You pull down when you need it

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and then it goes right back up when you're done,

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clean and cozy.

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- I love the eight.

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- Or it goes right at the foot of the bed

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and you don't have to make your bed ever again.

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Why do you have to leave your sheets on the bed?

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You can just roll them up like a,

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do, do, do, do, do, do, do,

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like a blind that you're pulling up.

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- Rip the lawnmower, get the full diesel engine running.

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- Get some real torque in there.

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- I don't know, I like the cartoon spin

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at the very end of it.

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- This is great, is it on the ceiling?

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- I guess I pictured it at the top of the couch

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and you pull it down,

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but you could go from underneath as well.

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- Like over your head, like a Snuggie?

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Does it have a hole in it?

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- It's sweet.

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- Well, I guess the armrests,

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like it doesn't open up or it doesn't cover the armrests,

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that's where your head goes or something.

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So I'm picturing you lying down for this.

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- You're laying down?

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- Oh, that's great.

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- Or you have two sections.

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- Or yeah, you just have a bunch of holes,

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like hooded holes throughout the whole blanket.

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- And you just pop through one of the holes.

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- Suspish.

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- Like a Swiss cheese.

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- Yes.

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- Honey, did you cut a bunch of holes in my blanket?

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- This is great 'cause if you have a whole couch

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and you have a whole family

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that wants to share a big blanket,

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don't have to worry about it anymore.

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You don't have to have five different throw blankets

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It's one amazing, enormous comforter that comes.

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- Mega blanket.

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- Right, just the electric motor just running.

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- Yeah, like one of those awnings

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that people put on their decks or something.

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- And it can be an actual electric blanket with the heat.

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I love it.

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This is great.

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- All right, Leo, what's your idea?

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- All right, I'll go.

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So there's a lot of mood tracking apps out there

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for yourself, keeping a log of how you're feeling day to day.

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It can help you with tracking hormones and stuff like that,

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but it only stays private.

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I think you should have a mood tracker app

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for family and friends.

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So you can keep logs of people that you interact with

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and say, you know what?

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So this came from community.

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Abed tracks whether or not he has good or bad interactions,

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and then he realizes what he's actually tracking

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with his female friends,

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then it started to yield very positive results.

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So I kept doing it.

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It's a great gag.

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But there are times where I wish,

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like, wow, there's a pattern.

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Every fall, this friend of mine gets really stressed,

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and every whatever, this other friend of mine,

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it might be nice to keep track of that somehow.

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- Absolutely, you could pop that open

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and see what kind of moods your friends are in.

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You don't have to try to guess at it.

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So you're not trying to ask them for things

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when they're super grumpy.

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- There you go.

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- Yeah, NSA is gonna love this.

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- They already have this for all of us.

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The social media element of that app

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is gonna be fascinating.

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- Yeah.

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It's like Be Real, but it says if you're good mood,

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bad mood, and it's shared with all your family and friends.

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- It's just emojis.

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It's just, that's all you post, just one emoji a day.

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- Oh, that's such a good idea.

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- No context, just emoji.

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- There's gotta be a network effect.

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How do you get people roped in?

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I don't know, but mood tracking for other people.

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- I wonder if you could do that just based on, like,

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blood pressure or heart rate or anything else.

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Could it come, if you feed enough data into this,

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could it come up with the correct emoji for your mood?

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- Maybe it's on everyone's Apple Watch.

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Yeah, totally.

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It's just the mood ring, but digitized.

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It's on everyone's auras or a ring.

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There you go.

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All right, Russell, what do you got?

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- This one would never make it on the pod.

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This is why it's called Outrage.

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It's basically a tool or a website,

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kind of like the Onion,

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but it just does terrible reviews

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of people's favorite restaurants and local areas.

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And just. (laughing)

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- One star only.

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- One star, it's just.

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- One star or less.

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- You just make fun of, like, people's favorite dishes

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and the whole breed is just the opposite of a critique.

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It's just awful.

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And people rage click on that

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and you just make people angry on food reviews

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for local community restaurants.

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Mom and Pop Shops, hundreds of years, just don't care.

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- Hold on, I'm registering trainwreck.app right now.

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That's fun.

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- Oh yeah.

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- So if you're just like,

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you wanna kind of feed into your own anger a little bit,

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that's when you go to this space

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and just kind of feel the anger,

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feel the burn a little bit.

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- Facebook, formerly Twitter,

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that all the newsfeed teams have learned

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and then learned the lesson by reverting

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that angry people keep you on the site longer, right?

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That's why flame wars and stuff happen.

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So there you go.

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- That's.

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- Instead of showing you

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all your uncle's horrible political opinions,

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you're seeing-- - Skip right to the good stuff.

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- Your favorite restaurant just skewered.

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- Dragged through the month.

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How could anybody say that about this restaurant?

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The view is awful and it's like the only lake view.

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Just smells bad from the dead fish.

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I don't know, I've thought about different restaurants

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that would have no reason to, yeah, have a bad review.

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- That's great.

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- Yeah.

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(laughing)

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- Scott, let's hear your intramural half-baked idea.

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- This is definitely a scrimmage one

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that I could not pitch as the full.

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Okay, so in order to help break bad habits,

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let's start a company that gives experiences

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that are so bad you never wanna do it again.

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So this stems from,

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significant other recently had food poisoning

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to the point that we got DoorDash

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and just a very bad experience

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with one of the ghost kitchens on it.

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And now she's like, "I will never ever eat this again.

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"This weekend was one of the worst I've ever had.

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"Never doing DoorDash now.

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"And now we're just gonna save extra money

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"from not doing DoorDash in our future.

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"Can you apply this to other things?"

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- Quit smoking.

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- Quit smoking, lace cigarette.

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- Someone beat you up.

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Oh yeah, there you go.

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- Let's call it or else.

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As I sit here, like picking and chewing on my fingernails,

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that's my oldest bad habit.

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If I had something that was like hanging over me.

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- Fingernail polish that's just tastes like anchovies

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or something.

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- Cayenne pepper.

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- Yeah, cayenne pepper.

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- Just ruin like TikTok.

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Like just have like 100 TikToks in a row

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that are just terrible.

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Never again.

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Just like, what am I on this for?

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I wanna quit my social media addiction.

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Yeah, exactly.

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All right, who wants to go first for main ideas?

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- Wait, this was originally a intramural idea

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and now I'm using it for Russell's Love Corner.

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(laughing)

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- This sounds like a perfect segue into the main show.

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- It's almost junior varsity or something.

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- Yeah, it's a Russell's Love Corner,

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but I had to pull this out of a hat,

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but I thought about this a while ago.

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It's a little ridiculous and I don't think this will ever,

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this is why I'm bringing a Spitball actually,

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this will be interesting.

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But, so I've thought about creating a,

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we'll call it beacons.

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Okay, so basically you're having a good night,

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you wanna meet somebody, you can press a button

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and a beacon goes out to all the single people in an area

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saying, "Hey, come meet me at this place tonight,

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boys and girls."

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(laughing)

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Literally, it's just a--

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- The DTF button.

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- Yeah, how is this different from Grindr?

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(laughing)

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- 'Cause you have to be at that location.

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Like you probably have to, this is how it makes money

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'cause like I bet you would have restaurants

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or whatever hire or like encourage people,

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attractive people to come to launch their beacons

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at different restaurants.

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Yeah, there's some legs here, all right.

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- Launch your beacon here and get free drinks

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for the next hour or something.

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- Yeah, the brand integration.

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- That's it.

269
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- Whoa.

270
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- You know, and now basically it's outsourcing

271
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single meetup nights to not be dependent

272
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on the restaurants or those people, but the single people.

273
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And so, "Meet a bunch of my boys,

274
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they're gonna launch our beacon tonight."

275
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- That sounds bad.

276
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(laughing)

277
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- You know what, that's part of the fun.

278
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That's part of the fun.

279
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(laughing)

280
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- Dude, I think I beaconed twice last night.

281
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I don't even remember.

282
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(laughing)

283
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- Yep, so then now you just have people like,

284
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and then now it's like, "Oh, look at,

285
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a bunch of beacons went off across the street.

286
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Let's go to that bar instead of this one," right?

287
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And now it's like a, it's a group--

288
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- Oh.

289
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- You know, it's probably better in groups

290
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if you're, you know, launching your beacon by yourself.

291
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It's not gonna be as cool.

292
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So I don't know how else to say it now.

293
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But yeah, it's like, if you do it in groups maybe

294
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or something, that's kind of where it shifts into more fun.

295
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- I just wanna add some hardware to this,

296
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where it's like an IR bracelet or something

297
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that you can only see through your phone

298
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if you're looking for it with the app or something.

299
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Like, "Oh, this person's, his beacon's going off over there,

300
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but you can only see it through the phone app."

301
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- It's gotta be called Beacon now,

302
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'cause the puns are the viral marketing in itself.

303
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- Absolutely.

304
00:11:12,560 --> 00:11:18,320
- But yeah, so now you just partner with brands.

305
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I think that's the monetization.

306
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It makes money.

307
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It's way different.

308
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You can take pictures with your boys

309
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and say, "We're gonna do this," right?

310
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And everybody can add on to that beacon.

311
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You know, "I'm here, I'm here, I'm here."

312
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Now you have, like, you know, before you go out,

313
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you can pick your place based on

314
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who wants to talk to somebody, right?

315
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So get rid of the whole, it's online dating without,

316
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that's how I would pitch it.

317
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It's more like-

318
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- Without preparation.

319
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- You can't talk to them.

320
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It's just, "Oh, I have to meet them in person?

321
00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,240
Ugh, I have to date in real life?

322
00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:54,360
Yikes," right?

323
00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,560
Like, no, yeah, that's how it is now.

324
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It's how it should be.

325
00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:00,520
- If you're having a bad date during it,

326
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do you change the app to a distress beacon

327
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and someone else can come and get you out of there?

328
00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:05,920
- Yeah.

329
00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:09,960
Just fire the flare, you know?

330
00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:14,320
- I feel like it'd be really easy for this culturally

331
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to be, like, a sign of desperation or not coolness.

332
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So how do we make sure that it's a cool thing

333
00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,760
that cool people do when they fire their beacon?

334
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- You wanna have a small,

335
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like, you have to have a small group together

336
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before you light the beacon.

337
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'Cause then it's not just like a single person-

338
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- Three or more.

339
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- Looking for love or whatever.

340
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It's a little bit of a group scene,

341
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but, you know, kind of saying,

342
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"Hey, we're open to hang out with more people.

343
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Come on over."

344
00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:47,280
- That's a great idea.

345
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You avoid the,

346
00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,080
there's that one creepy, horny guy in the corner

347
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who beacons here every night.

348
00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:52,560
- Slashing in the corner.

349
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(both laughing)

350
00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:56,320
- Yeah.

351
00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:57,880
Well, you could probably, like, on the app, right?

352
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We can make, like, small beacons

353
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and then big beacons or something like that.

354
00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,680
- Well, that's your in-app purchase strategy, right?

355
00:13:04,680 --> 00:13:05,760
- Oh, there it is.

356
00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,920
- Oh, geez.

357
00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:10,160
It's the best one yet.

358
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This has got,

359
00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,040
this could make more money than the other ones.

360
00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:14,280
- It's got legs.

361
00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:17,520
- I could say this, like, helping out small businesses

362
00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:22,520
and, you know, setting up, like, donation drives

363
00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:23,800
or something like that.

364
00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,960
If you have a bunch of beacons going off

365
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for a adoption event for kittens or something.

366
00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:33,880
- That's wholesome.

367
00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:34,720
- Oh, yeah.

368
00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:36,720
- Yeah, it's driving in the other direction from...

369
00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:37,560
- Yeah.

370
00:13:37,560 --> 00:13:40,640
- But you can have, like, a dog park beacon.

371
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Like, I feel like that's,

372
00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,840
I feel like a bunch of single people should meet at dog park.

373
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Everybody's got their dogs.

374
00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:48,440
Maybe we throw some beacons out there.

375
00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:49,720
- And that would be a great excuse.

376
00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:50,560
- Yeah.

377
00:13:50,560 --> 00:13:51,400
- Mutual interest.

378
00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:52,880
- Dude, maybe we throw some Pokemon Go elements in there,

379
00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:54,800
like, events, right?

380
00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:59,000
You do, like, random events at points of interest.

381
00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,800
Meet at this, no, I don't know if it's, like, a fountain.

382
00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:02,960
- It's the beacon weekend.

383
00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:03,800
- Yeah.

384
00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:07,760
I'll throw this out there

385
00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,120
and then I'll save it for the next Love Corner.

386
00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,240
But I wanna create a, you know,

387
00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:15,560
the Bachelor and the Bachelorette, the shows?

388
00:14:15,560 --> 00:14:17,920
I think this is, like, if you're a single person,

389
00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,760
you gotta have, that would be an interesting way

390
00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:25,000
to create a, you know, use the beacon to,

391
00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:26,640
I don't know how to make it not creepy,

392
00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:31,280
but, like, create an experience where I'm, like, you know,

393
00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:33,880
the most attractive dude on the planet, right?

394
00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:38,160
I mean, we're all that lucky to be here on this podcast.

395
00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,040
- We're looking at Marshall right now.

396
00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,320
Relatable, yeah, yeah, we all know.

397
00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:43,520
Bringing the average up.

398
00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:45,240
- You can somehow create that experience,

399
00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:47,040
like, live, in person.

400
00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:50,880
I have 10 people all around, like, trying to talk to me.

401
00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:52,580
I don't know, like, I feel like everybody

402
00:14:52,580 --> 00:14:54,880
that watches that show wants that experience

403
00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:59,240
once in their life for the Bachelorette, at least.

404
00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:00,560
I think that's what people.

405
00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,280
- A sponsored mega beacon.

406
00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:05,600
- Something like that, or I don't know.

407
00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,560
That's a stretch with this app, right?

408
00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:11,840
One of the many that we will launch here on this podcast.

409
00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,400
But I think that's a-- - Of course.

410
00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:15,680
- I really like that idea.

411
00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:16,640
- Would you use it, Scott?

412
00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:19,560
Like, if you, or like, would we have used this

413
00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:20,480
back in the day?

414
00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,680
- If I had a group, if we had a group

415
00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:26,480
of actually single guys, honestly, screw it.

416
00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:28,440
I would just force you guys to come out and be like,

417
00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:29,600
come on, we're all going out tonight.

418
00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:31,520
This is, tonight's for me.

419
00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:33,160
Get this app, turn on your beacons,

420
00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,600
and we're hanging at this bar together.

421
00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:36,440
- Yeah.

422
00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,520
- Light the-- - That's how I would do it.

423
00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:40,200
Light the beacons. - Light the beacon.

424
00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:41,040
- There's something kind of like--

425
00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:42,640
- The beacons are lit. - Exciting about it, right?

426
00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:43,800
- Russell calls for aid.

427
00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:46,680
- It feels like it has gravitas.

428
00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:48,400
- Yeah, it really does. - We've done it.

429
00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:49,240
- Yeah.

430
00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:51,640
- Yeah, it's good.

431
00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:53,040
- Gondor calls for aid.

432
00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,400
- You know what's funny?

433
00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:56,640
- Just a bunch of dudes on the app

434
00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:58,440
lighting their beacons to each other.

435
00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:00,680
(laughing)

436
00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:04,240
This becomes dudes hanging out,

437
00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,360
groups of guy friends, single guys,

438
00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,920
meeting other groups of single guys and hanging out.

439
00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,680
- Everyone wins. - That's valid, yeah.

440
00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:13,240
- Yeah. - Totally.

441
00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,280
- Maybe it should just be a bro app then.

442
00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:18,600
- The tenders of the world let you choose

443
00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:19,560
what you're interested in.

444
00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:21,040
I imagine that you could filter it

445
00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,120
so that you only see the beacons

446
00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,320
that are lit of your interests, right?

447
00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:27,160
- Oh, give 'em colors. - Yeah, that's true.

448
00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:28,000
- Yeah.

449
00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:33,000
- Hangouts are green and relationship interest, pink.

450
00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:36,200
- Oh, stoplights, right?

451
00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:39,760
Red, green, yellow, it's complicated group.

452
00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:43,160
(laughing)

453
00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:44,640
- Stoplight parties are blue.

454
00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:50,080
- It's a bad idea to engage with these ladies' color.

455
00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:52,800
- You could rate groups, could you rate?

456
00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:54,000
(laughing)

457
00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:54,840
- Like Uber.

458
00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:58,280
- Oh, that beacon is bad news, don't go to that beacon.

459
00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:00,640
- I really like the idea of it just,

460
00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,240
just release the app called Beacon

461
00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:06,280
and that's all it is, is you are emitting a beacon.

462
00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:07,920
Like Marshall said, you choose the color

463
00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:09,400
and then just let people figure it out

464
00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,000
on their own at that point.

465
00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:12,560
I'm gonna just light a red beacon here

466
00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,560
and see what happens and someone can drive by

467
00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:17,840
to be like, I wonder what the red beacon is.

468
00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:19,720
There's 30 green beacons over here.

469
00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:20,880
- Yeah, exactly.

470
00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:22,880
It'll just become its own little meaning

471
00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:24,800
in its own little clicks and areas.

472
00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:26,080
- Yeah, gotta figure it out,

473
00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:27,840
let the community figure it out.

474
00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:30,680
- Dude, throw some Snapchat geolocation stuff,

475
00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:31,800
like you can click the beacon,

476
00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:35,720
you can see the videos that are happening right now.

477
00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:36,760
That'd be kinda cool.

478
00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,400
See how the fights are going.

479
00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:43,880
- The fight club.

480
00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:45,840
- Ooh, that beacon just went out.

481
00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:46,680
- Oh.

482
00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:48,880
- Let's go here.

483
00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:49,720
- Call the police.

484
00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:57,960
- Alrighty, Scotty, let's hear what you're pitching today.

485
00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:01,360
- Okay, so I recently read an article

486
00:18:01,360 --> 00:18:03,640
that I cannot stop thinking about

487
00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:08,520
and it is a company that is training AI models.

488
00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,600
Microsoft's putting like $50 billion into new servers

489
00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:13,320
and training for different AIs,

490
00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:16,560
which is just a bunch of GPUs, super energy intensive.

491
00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:17,880
- He said AI, take a shot.

492
00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:23,280
- And so, but what this company is doing

493
00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:28,280
is they are renting people GPUs to put in their home

494
00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,760
and because they take so much energy,

495
00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,080
the people, you're using them as space heaters

496
00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,480
for their home and then the company

497
00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:39,280
is then subsidizing the money to pay for the power

498
00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:40,360
that's being consumed there.

499
00:18:40,360 --> 00:18:42,680
So pretty much you're just getting a free space heater

500
00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:44,280
that you just have to keep safe.

501
00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:46,600
- Or you're paying like half costs

502
00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:47,960
'cause you're gonna use a space heater anyway,

503
00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:49,640
you might as well split it with this guy.

504
00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:51,200
- Exactly.

505
00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:54,080
And if energy is being subsidized by that

506
00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:56,100
and you have a source of heat in your home,

507
00:18:56,100 --> 00:18:58,280
there are so many different attachments

508
00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:02,400
or things that you could put on top of this space heater/GPU.

509
00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,760
It's not hard to make a dehumidifier out of things

510
00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,160
as long as you have a heat source to condense air

511
00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:09,100
and constantly be pulling moisture out.

512
00:19:09,100 --> 00:19:13,040
You could put a big glass case around it full of algae

513
00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:14,640
that feeds off of the heat on it,

514
00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:18,320
a basic light source and use that for air purifying.

515
00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,400
Just put a hose connected to this guy,

516
00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:22,360
run water through it and all of a sudden

517
00:19:22,360 --> 00:19:24,880
you have heated floors or a heated swimming pool.

518
00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:26,760
You have a heat source for free in your house.

519
00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:28,120
How do we utilize it?

520
00:19:28,120 --> 00:19:29,740
- Melt snow.

521
00:19:29,740 --> 00:19:31,320
- Melt, there you go.

522
00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,840
- Yeah, melt your driveway.

523
00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:38,120
- Small basic, a mat that you can put over anything

524
00:19:38,120 --> 00:19:40,380
that just runs in and out of this GPU.

525
00:19:40,380 --> 00:19:41,220
- So is this like a thing?

526
00:19:41,220 --> 00:19:43,340
- Run your literal hot water heater.

527
00:19:43,340 --> 00:19:45,580
- So the actual space heater part of it

528
00:19:45,580 --> 00:19:47,420
is a thing right now.

529
00:19:47,420 --> 00:19:51,840
- So people are selling GPU pack boxes.

530
00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,740
- This is a Kickstarter that I just saw.

531
00:19:54,740 --> 00:19:56,900
Where they're like, we're gonna take these GPUs

532
00:19:56,900 --> 00:19:59,620
and we're gonna put them out into the world,

533
00:19:59,620 --> 00:20:00,780
rent them out into the world

534
00:20:00,780 --> 00:20:02,260
and you're gonna get the free heat.

535
00:20:02,260 --> 00:20:03,620
- Put this in your basement

536
00:20:03,620 --> 00:20:06,680
and we'll pay for half the energy to run it.

537
00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:08,980
You pay for half energy and you get heat.

538
00:20:08,980 --> 00:20:10,540
- In addition, you could also get

539
00:20:10,540 --> 00:20:13,500
the dehumidifier attachment 'cause it's in your basement.

540
00:20:13,500 --> 00:20:16,740
- So we're coming up with a bunch of ideas

541
00:20:16,740 --> 00:20:19,460
that would add on to this idea.

542
00:20:19,460 --> 00:20:21,260
- How would you use heat?

543
00:20:21,260 --> 00:20:22,100
- Free heat.

544
00:20:22,100 --> 00:20:24,740
- I mean, water heaters are constantly running.

545
00:20:24,740 --> 00:20:25,580
You just have it.

546
00:20:25,580 --> 00:20:27,100
- The amount of power that goes through these things.

547
00:20:27,100 --> 00:20:28,380
- Help that.

548
00:20:28,380 --> 00:20:29,220
- Honestly.

549
00:20:29,220 --> 00:20:32,220
- Dude, water heat, yes.

550
00:20:32,220 --> 00:20:34,420
I would just tag on everything.

551
00:20:34,420 --> 00:20:36,380
Like I would just get 50 of these in my home.

552
00:20:36,380 --> 00:20:38,040
It's just free heat.

553
00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,680
- Can you condense heat so that it's like,

554
00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:44,720
you know, 500 degrees, I'm using it for my oven type thing.

555
00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,980
If you have a GPU that's running for an hour

556
00:20:47,980 --> 00:20:50,240
and it produces this many joules,

557
00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,800
can that be collected and stored and accumulated somehow?

558
00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,920
I don't know enough physics to probably not.

559
00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:58,040
- I feel like that would have been done in some way

560
00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,400
if it was easier to do.

561
00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:01,240
Not specifically.

562
00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,600
- So like for example, we have a hot water pot.

563
00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,680
We have a thing that's kind of like a kettle in our house

564
00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:07,400
but it takes forever to heat up,

565
00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,940
but it always stays at like 208 degrees.

566
00:21:09,940 --> 00:21:11,840
And it's an always on hot water thing.

567
00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:13,220
And it uses almost no electricity

568
00:21:13,220 --> 00:21:16,720
because it spreads out the load over a long, long time.

569
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:20,920
And doesn't take much to keep something hot in energy

570
00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:22,480
once you get it there.

571
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,340
I'm just wondering, what are the upper limits

572
00:21:24,340 --> 00:21:26,120
of this GPU temperature that we have to work with?

573
00:21:26,120 --> 00:21:27,040
- Yeah.

574
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:28,860
Well, how hot do GPUs get?

575
00:21:28,860 --> 00:21:31,240
It's like around 100 C, right?

576
00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:32,380
I don't know.

577
00:21:32,380 --> 00:21:33,220
- Yeah.

578
00:21:33,220 --> 00:21:34,200
- I'm gonna cook an egg on that.

579
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:35,280
- Dude. - You could run

580
00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:36,800
a 3D printer on that.

581
00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:38,720
- I do this kind of today.

582
00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:43,080
I mean, I let close the door of this room for my podcast

583
00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,980
and I don't have to run the heat in this room.

584
00:21:45,980 --> 00:21:48,280
Don't get good airflow.

585
00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:49,720
Like it makes sense.

586
00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,320
- 'Cause of all the computers on around you.

587
00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,040
- I have three monitors, you know.

588
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:55,920
My computer.

589
00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,840
- My wife complains that my office is significantly warmer

590
00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:00,040
than every other room in the house,

591
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:01,280
even when I'm not in it.

592
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,400
(laughing)

593
00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,380
I've got my NAS and all this stuff, you know.

594
00:22:06,380 --> 00:22:09,760
- Yeah, but this is kind of like a mini split

595
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:14,760
where you have smaller heat sources spread around the house

596
00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:18,000
if you have like a brick or something

597
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,580
that you plug in in one room

598
00:22:19,580 --> 00:22:22,440
and you have it around a couple of rooms,

599
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,160
then you can have it more localized

600
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,280
and more controlled as well.

601
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:28,560
- I mean, there's so much.

602
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,640
You can build a water cooler, or not a water cooler,

603
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:36,000
like a, you put like a, you know, an oil reservoir.

604
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,960
Like there is a whole crap load of stuff

605
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,160
you could do with this, I think.

606
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:43,720
- That's the thing, you can use the heat

607
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:45,840
to create essentially a refrigerator

608
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,380
and have a cooling side on it at the same time.

609
00:22:48,380 --> 00:22:50,360
You could literally power a refrigerator

610
00:22:50,360 --> 00:22:51,840
via a heat pump with this thing.

611
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:53,520
- Could you go, like in a way,

612
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:57,840
this would wipe out solar panels from the planet.

613
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,240
(laughing)

614
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,120
- We still need the energy.

615
00:23:02,120 --> 00:23:04,120
- The energy goes into this box, still.

616
00:23:04,120 --> 00:23:07,880
- The difference is someone else is paying for the energy.

617
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:08,720
- Okay, I mean.

618
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,880
- It's kind of like how your car has,

619
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,760
like it collects the waste heat

620
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,720
and that's how it runs the heat, like from the engine.

621
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:15,560
- Let me add to this.

622
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,960
Let's say you add solar panels to your roof

623
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,040
to power those GPUs.

624
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:25,040
Now you're literally making money running GPUs, free heats,

625
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:26,640
like you get your energy,

626
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,040
if they subsidize it the right way

627
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:31,440
and they're not like paying your electricity bill, right?

628
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,320
You're just like, throw some solar panels on it,

629
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,680
I'm retired, see ya boys.

630
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:39,520
I got 30 GPUs.

631
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,440
- We don't even need the GPU at this point.

632
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:42,680
Let's get the solar panels.

633
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:44,600
(laughing)

634
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,000
- GPUs, the GPUs make you your money,

635
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,560
the solar panels save you all the energy

636
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,400
and so now they're paying you literally

637
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,560
to right subsidize your energy.

638
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,600
Well, I make my own energy, so.

639
00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:58,800
- Couple grand a month.

640
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:00,720
- Scott, do you teach me about heat pumps?

641
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:04,320
So like you can turn this into cold somehow, right?

642
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:05,160
How does that work?

643
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,640
- I literally was on chat GPT right before pitching this,

644
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,120
being like, I can do this, right?

645
00:24:10,120 --> 00:24:10,960
And so.

646
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,160
- Yeah, 'cause like air conditioning and refrigeration

647
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,560
and stuff uses the loop energy.

648
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:16,560
I guess you have electricity.

649
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:20,000
- Yeah, you still have to have some kind of energy input.

650
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,760
It's like you're moving the heat around, I think.

651
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,160
- It's about compressing a liquid.

652
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,040
There's a liquid that when you compress it cools

653
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:28,960
or it's the other way around.

654
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,560
So when you compress it or you evaporate the air,

655
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:33,840
it cools or heats it.

656
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:35,440
I did HVAC school.

657
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,560
I have a certification in HVAC, believe it or not.

658
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:39,400
- What?

659
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:40,240
- Yeah.

660
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:41,060
- Seriously?

661
00:24:41,060 --> 00:24:41,900
- Not a full trade school.

662
00:24:41,900 --> 00:24:42,740
- Who are you, man, you have many talents.

663
00:24:42,740 --> 00:24:45,920
- I did, yeah, when I launched the company,

664
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:47,240
I had to do this whole HVAC training.

665
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:51,480
But yeah, there's a compressor, an evaporator and a coil.

666
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,880
And that coil when compressed is what creates the heat.

667
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,520
When you compress the liquid, I think it emits the heat

668
00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:58,720
or the other way around.

669
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:02,640
So yeah, it's like you have to put the energy in

670
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:06,400
to move it from heat to cool or cold.

671
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,320
- But the thing that's going into the system is not.

672
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:09,480
- I don't know.

673
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,720
- Compressors are what costs the, is what the energy is.

674
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:13,920
- Right, right, right.

675
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:14,960
So a way to collect heat.

676
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:16,560
What are the ways that people collect heat

677
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:17,400
and turn it into energy?

678
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:18,400
You got turbines.

679
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,560
That's a little bit too big scale for what we're doing here.

680
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,960
Like boiling water, steam turbine is a little much.

681
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:23,800
- Is that it?

682
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:24,680
Is everything steam?

683
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,720
- Yeah, it kind of makes me think that maybe

684
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,760
if we could just collect heat coming out of the back

685
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,480
of the computers and turn it into more energy,

686
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,360
we probably would have been doing that already, right?

687
00:25:32,360 --> 00:25:34,000
(laughing)

688
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:34,840
- Yeah.

689
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:36,760
- Marshall, is there some other kind of liquid

690
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:41,720
which a much lower point to turn into gas

691
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,000
that we could be running through here

692
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,080
and make little tiny turbines?

693
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,320
- Many of those are explosive, so probably not a good idea.

694
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,080
(laughing)

695
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,760
- I know that our city has bricks all around

696
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,240
that have computers in them

697
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,360
and they track the temperature of the sidewalk,

698
00:25:58,360 --> 00:26:00,440
but they're self-powered because they have plates

699
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,200
on the top and bottom of the brick

700
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,080
and somehow they generate just a little bit of voltage

701
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,080
in electricity from the temperature differential

702
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:12,560
between the warmer earth and the cooler air.

703
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,240
You can generate energy with plates and some sort of,

704
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:19,000
I don't know enough about it to sound intelligent

705
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,840
while I say this, but there are systems out there

706
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,200
to generate just a little bit of electricity

707
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:24,960
with temperature differentials, I think,

708
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,280
but probably not enough for what we're looking to do here.

709
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,520
- There's gotta be a way to convert heat and energy, right?

710
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,960
Like you can charge a battery with heat, right?

711
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:34,040
(laughing)

712
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:35,720
So I feel like this is--

713
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:36,920
- We're all running up against the limits

714
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,120
of our physics knowledge.

715
00:26:38,120 --> 00:26:41,080
- Yeah, there's definitely, I know there's an example.

716
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,240
I guess I think, yeah, I guess it is steam.

717
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,840
- All right, I don't wanna get us too stuck in the rut

718
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:48,960
of just turn it back into more energy.

719
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:50,000
What other cool stuff can you do

720
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,560
with a heat block in your basement?

721
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,920
- I honestly think it's a retirement plan

722
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,080
if you throw some solar panels on there.

723
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,000
Like that is dope, but.

724
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:04,040
- I mean, could you switch it around a little bit

725
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,080
and rent out some of the computing power?

726
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:11,320
'Cause like GPUs are expensive and hard to come by.

727
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,800
That's kind of part of what gave you the idea, I think, right?

728
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:15,640
What if--

729
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,680
- Yeah, that's kind of the deal you're signing up for the--

730
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,760
- Half or some fraction of the computing power itself

731
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:22,880
instead of the heat.

732
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:27,400
I mean, instead of the subsidized energy,

733
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,440
you kind of have to trade it out, I would assume.

734
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:30,720
Can't get both.

735
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:31,560
- Yeah.

736
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:35,640
- But then you get a GPU for your sweet new computer.

737
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:36,480
- You had ideas, right, Scott?

738
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,480
- And you just share it with IBM.

739
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,720
(laughing)

740
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,720
- I'm so sorry to go back to this,

741
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:48,120
but Stirling engines and thermoelectric generators

742
00:27:48,120 --> 00:27:51,360
using the Seebeck effect can convert temperature differences

743
00:27:51,360 --> 00:27:53,680
directly into electric voltage.

744
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,160
This is gonna be extremely inefficient

745
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,800
compared to what we're pouring into this GPU,

746
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,360
but you're getting something out and it's free.

747
00:28:01,360 --> 00:28:03,520
- It's one of those thermoelectric generators,

748
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:08,520
but it's the entire bottom of the baseboards of your floor

749
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,680
all along your ceiling in the basement

750
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,280
where these GPUs live.

751
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,560
And when the heat hits the ceiling,

752
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:19,120
it's generating just enough of a temperature differential

753
00:28:19,120 --> 00:28:20,960
across a huge amount of space.

754
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:21,800
And I don't know how these things work.

755
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:22,640
- You take it straight to the bank.

756
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,240
- Stop talking up my ass.

757
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:25,720
- Straight to the bank.

758
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:26,960
- Straight to the bank.

759
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,200
- My initial gut reaction on this

760
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,920
was I wanted to put different attachments on top of this,

761
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:37,360
like the dehumidifier one, the air purifying one

762
00:28:37,360 --> 00:28:39,640
that was just filled with algae that's feeding off of,

763
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,760
it's living off of this heat on here.

764
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,280
The hose attachment where it runs a coil around it

765
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,240
and you can get hot water to different places,

766
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,240
such as to your heated floors, to your pool,

767
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,200
to keep your coffee warm on your desk.

768
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,400
Just a bunch of ridiculous hardware attachments

769
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,680
you could put on this guy and upsell that

770
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,920
as part of your GPU rental heater experience.

771
00:28:59,920 --> 00:29:02,120
- Dude, I feel like, yeah, GPU rental,

772
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:03,840
I feel like you could apply this to like,

773
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,560
speaking of HVAC, like the back of your refrigerator,

774
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,360
those compressors get stupid hot.

775
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,080
You run a little coil out of there, you got free heat.

776
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,280
It's just, there's a lot of vampiric heat

777
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:18,280
throughout your house, your oven when it's done,

778
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,600
your stove or whatever, not maybe not your stove.

779
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,000
- I always wondered where that heat goes.

780
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,520
- Right, it just evaporates free energy into the air, right?

781
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,800
Why not convert it into something useful?

782
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:34,160
- As our previous guest, Steph and I have shared before,

783
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,640
we have an ongoing debate about if we have an oven

784
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,880
that is at temperature and we've completed using it,

785
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,640
do you have the same amount of energy entering your home

786
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,480
if you leave the door shut when you're done with it

787
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:47,720
versus if you open it?

788
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,800
I think technically yes,

789
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,600
but that energy is spread over more time, right?

790
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,280
So is it more efficient for your,

791
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,080
like let's save the furnace running for 20 minutes

792
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,320
by opening the door or is it just, no, it's a wash,

793
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:01,840
leave it closed or open, doesn't matter.

794
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,640
- Isn't that the same kind of argument

795
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:08,080
like people have about running their heaters,

796
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,600
whether you want to like blast it a whole bunch at once

797
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:15,920
to build up a lot of heat or run it intermittently

798
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,680
over a period of time on and off.

799
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,640
I forget which one of those wins out

800
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,560
or if that is just an ongoing argument,

801
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,360
but I think it's kind of the same thing, right?

802
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:27,200
- It is.

803
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:31,240
- There's this also thing that I learned

804
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,600
in HVAC certification.

805
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,160
(laughing)

806
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:36,800
- Man, that is.

807
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:37,640
- It's called.

808
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,440
- I think I might go get my HVAC certification.

809
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,000
(laughing)

810
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,280
- If you guys want to sponsor us,

811
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,400
HVAC technicians of America.

812
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:52,080
- The objects in your house retain heat.

813
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:56,600
And so in a way, if like bringing a room

814
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,160
up to surface temperature,

815
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,240
you actually have to think about,

816
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:04,000
oh, all the pieces of furniture and crap in your room,

817
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,080
you actually have to bring that up to temperature as well.

818
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,400
And so there's probably some something there.

819
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,760
- It's like all the stuff around you is acting

820
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,800
as quote unquote insulation.

821
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:15,640
- Yes.

822
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,960
- You're slowly heating and or releasing heat if.

823
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,680
- Yeah, so I don't know if,

824
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,160
they didn't teach me what that means.

825
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,120
Like, should you keep your house warmer or colder?

826
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,000
But I feel like if you keep it hotter, right?

827
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:31,720
You have all this stuff in your house

828
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,960
that now is holding that heat as well

829
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,440
to your point Leo ovens, right?

830
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,720
Why not you just run this coil,

831
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,440
let's say from or whatever,

832
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:45,000
like the GPU to run through surfaces throughout your house

833
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,520
to then become another heating element, right?

834
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,320
Kind of like those speakers

835
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,760
that you just clip onto a desk.

836
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,040
And then now the desk becomes a speaker.

837
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,440
You could kind of run coils

838
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,680
and heating elements throughout your house

839
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,720
that are like, they're like hot packs, right?

840
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,440
- Everything's a heater.

841
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,160
- It's like those centralized vacuums

842
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:06,600
that you plug into the different ports

843
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,880
only you've got just hot everywhere you need it.

844
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,360
- No, yeah, your favorite spot on the couch is,

845
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,000
my favorite spot on the couch is always heated

846
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:15,840
by my GPU and the base bed.

847
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:17,360
- Oh, my bed at night.

848
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,400
- My bed at night, my toilet seat.

849
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:20,760
- Yeah, before you get in it.

850
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:21,600
- My...

851
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,800
- Just for the bidet.

852
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,440
- Yes.

853
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,760
- There's just a bidet tank next to it.

854
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:29,600
- That's the life.

855
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,480
I have a GPU in my bidet tank.

856
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,720
(laughing)

857
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,320
(upbeat music)

858
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:43,600
- All right, Marshall, what idea do you bring this week?

859
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:48,120
- All right, so I really enjoy mini golf

860
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:52,040
and I wanna find a way to really spruce it up

861
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:53,040
and jazz it up.

862
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:57,200
And I'm also a big fan of just doing puzzles,

863
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,480
whether it's like jigsaw puzzles or word puzzles.

864
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,200
And I wanna find a way to combine the two.

865
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,080
So I guess what I'm imagining is setting up

866
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,000
a mini golf course that has puzzles built into it.

867
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,440
And so you have to kind of complete the puzzle

868
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,840
to move to the next hole or something like that.

869
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:18,280
I feel like you could go really complicated with this.

870
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:22,520
Like the original idea in my head was a lot more

871
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:27,520
Rube Goldberg, but that is also very complex.

872
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,600
So you could also do some cool stuff

873
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:34,600
with like virtual reality or augmented reality.

874
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:39,560
I feel like would be an amazing use case

875
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,080
for augmented reality to have like puzzles

876
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,200
that you solve by kind of knocking a golf ball.

877
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:49,240
And you try to knock it into this column

878
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,880
and that opens a gate so that you can then knock it

879
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,960
in this other direction.

880
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,200
And so it's more than just moving around obstacles.

881
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,840
There's a little bit more of a mechanical marvel to it.

882
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,680
And I think that would really draw people.

883
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,080
I think people would be excited about seeing something

884
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,920
like that in action, whether it is a big physical thing

885
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,840
in front of you or a kind of virtual space that you have,

886
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:19,840
I guess, curated for some more specific puzzles.

887
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:21,240
- Like an escape room. - Yes.

888
00:34:21,240 --> 00:34:23,680
- Like an escape room. - Escape rooms meet putt-putt.

889
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:24,520
- Exactly.

890
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:25,360
Oh, that's great.

891
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,320
'Cause that, people gather for those.

892
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,480
People are excited to come together

893
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:30,680
and solve puzzles together.

894
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,720
You could have it be a group experience

895
00:34:32,720 --> 00:34:36,320
where you have to have multiple people participating

896
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,960
in order to get to the next stage.

897
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,920
It's working in one room together, but it's putt-putt.

898
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,160
(laughing)

899
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,360
What'd you guys think?

900
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,520
- It's sweet.

901
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:53,400
- I love the VR possible element to that as well.

902
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:54,360
Just put them in.

903
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,200
'Cause my first thought is on this is,

904
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,360
okay, if you're doing puzzles on putt-putt,

905
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,480
like the only, everyone loves putt-putt,

906
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,080
except for waiting behind the person in front of you

907
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:05,680
doing putt-putt.

908
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,040
And if you're, all of a sudden,

909
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,160
it's some person figuring out a puzzle up front.

910
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,880
So I really love the idea of combining this escape room ask

911
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:15,920
where you have your own section.

912
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,880
It could even be the same room where things are changing

913
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,320
inside the room and you're just putting the same course

914
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:21,400
that's changing all the time,

915
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,400
or you're moving on to different ones going through.

916
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:24,960
- Yeah. - That could be awesome.

917
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:25,800
- That's a good point.

918
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,400
You could put time limits too.

919
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,680
You could put like escape rooms have a time limit, right?

920
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,160
You could throw like, all right, you have 10 minutes a hole.

921
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:36,280
You pass or fail and your game is beat all 18 holes

922
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,520
in your time limit or nine holes, right?

923
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,440
It's team effort.

924
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,080
Maybe it's like a shot.

925
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,960
Like it has to be a hole in one too.

926
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:46,760
You could do stuff like that.

927
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,720
'Cause that would be, now everybody's like,

928
00:35:48,720 --> 00:35:50,920
come on, get the, you know, nail it.

929
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:51,760
Turn to the left.

930
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,400
- Yeah, then you get your picture taken

931
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,760
if you beat the record and get the hole in one.

932
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,400
But over the course of your puzzles that you've solved

933
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,000
so far, you're getting yourself rewards like bumpers

934
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,720
and easier paths to the hole in one and stuff.

935
00:36:03,720 --> 00:36:04,560
- Yeah.

936
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:05,560
- Whoa.

937
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,760
- The faster you solve each of them,

938
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,080
the more bonuses you get moving on.

939
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,000
- That's so cool.

940
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:13,480
- That's some good incentive.

941
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,280
- And then maybe the final part of it

942
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,800
with that last hole in one is, you know,

943
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,240
there is some kind of mechanical piece

944
00:36:20,240 --> 00:36:21,360
that takes the ball away.

945
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,840
And that's the Rube Goldberg part of it

946
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:26,720
where a Ferris wheel carries it away from you

947
00:36:26,720 --> 00:36:27,840
so you don't get another shot.

948
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:29,000
That's it, man.

949
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:33,080
Once you've hit that last shot, it's gone.

950
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:33,920
- Got it, yeah.

951
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:35,320
You gotta monetize this, right?

952
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,440
You gotta steal the ball at the end of the course.

953
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,840
- Yeah, come back and try again next time.

954
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:46,200
- I've used my MetaQuest too for a lot of like zero G frisbee

955
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:47,720
and playing Beat Saber and stuff.

956
00:36:47,720 --> 00:36:50,360
But honestly playing golf and golf simulators

957
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,040
works really, really well.

958
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,320
We have a friend who bought me a putt-putt game

959
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,800
and it's super fun to play golf in VR.

960
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:57,640
- Nice.

961
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,320
Yeah, I imagine you,

962
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,560
so you have to have some kind of like

963
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,400
haptic feedback with that, right?

964
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,560
Is there any kind of built in

965
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,920
for the games you've played, Leo?

966
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:09,760
- Oh yeah, yeah.

967
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,800
The controllers of each buzz and actually, you know what?

968
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,600
Some of the games require controllers

969
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,360
but some of them are just hand tracking

970
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,520
and you could even have like your own accessory

971
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,440
that you sell that is a little golf club

972
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,560
or something, you know,

973
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,000
or just nothing at all, your pressing buttons.

974
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,000
- Yeah, it's probably not too difficult

975
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,080
to set up a golf club that has haptic feedback,

976
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,440
you know, just have the sensors in the right place

977
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,600
and you don't even need the ball for this.

978
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,720
It can just be purely virtual.

979
00:37:39,720 --> 00:37:40,680
- A little gyroscope inside.

980
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:41,520
- Yeah, every time you tap.

981
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,240
- Every time you swing and you tap it, it vibrates.

982
00:37:44,240 --> 00:37:46,920
So like every MacBook since 2015,

983
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,160
when you push the trackpad,

984
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,840
it feels like you're pushing down the thing

985
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:54,080
for when it's just a solid piece of glass that doesn't move

986
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:55,800
and it's got a little vibrate motor

987
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,200
and it feels like you're depressing something

988
00:37:58,200 --> 00:37:59,880
and moving it downward, but you're not.

989
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:02,160
It's just like buzzing in just the right way.

990
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,760
You could trick your brain easily with like,

991
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:05,840
the Nintendo Switch made a big deal

992
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:06,680
about this when it launched.

993
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,160
You could have vibrate stuff just right

994
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,720
so that it feels like my controller's full of marbles

995
00:38:10,720 --> 00:38:11,800
or whatever.

996
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:16,440
You could tap your golf club in just the right way

997
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,640
where it feels like you've made contact with the ball.

998
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:19,480
- Yeah. - That's great.

999
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,000
- Depending on like how hard you swing it,

1000
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,840
it can clunk harder for a bigger swing.

1001
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,800
- You inserted the club into the secret keyhole

1002
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:29,080
in your escape room thing

1003
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,520
and it feels like you're turning it or something.

1004
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,880
There's gotta be a way to do that, yeah.

1005
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,640
- And yeah, like if you have like a team element,

1006
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:37,760
you could have different hole,

1007
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,360
like one hole isn't just, it's not a one hole

1008
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,480
with one hole in it.

1009
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,240
It's multiple holes.

1010
00:38:44,240 --> 00:38:47,240
- Everyone has to do their own section of the puzzle

1011
00:38:47,240 --> 00:38:48,760
all at the same time or something.

1012
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:49,600
- Yep. - Yeah.

1013
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:53,280
- Or you need like, part of it is gated in a way

1014
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,000
that you need some people to hit certain markers

1015
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,040
for you to move on in your section or something like that.

1016
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:00,440
- Yeah, yep, yep, yep.

1017
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:01,840
- So like each puzzle.

1018
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,760
- I can't cross this pit of lava below me

1019
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,560
until someone else gets their putt

1020
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,400
so I could put up a bridge.

1021
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:09,240
- Yeah.

1022
00:39:09,240 --> 00:39:11,080
- Like you don't have to have one ball either.

1023
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,880
You can have like three balls per hole

1024
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,480
and now you have to nail, right?

1025
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,760
You have to do the hole in one in each one

1026
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,240
in order to unlock the thing, to unlock the thing.

1027
00:39:21,240 --> 00:39:23,560
And yeah. - Yeah, totally.

1028
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:24,400
- That'd be.

1029
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,400
- Russell, as many balls as you want.

1030
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:27,560
- I want eight.

1031
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:28,400
I want eight of them.

1032
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,640
(laughing)

1033
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:34,000
- Yeah, but then you're kind of like tracking

1034
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,240
more than one just for yourself to kind of

1035
00:39:37,240 --> 00:39:40,440
get to the goal, I guess.

1036
00:39:41,720 --> 00:39:45,640
- Instead of a par three, it's a three ball hole, right?

1037
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:49,000
- Oh yeah, 'cause you can generate more at a whim,

1038
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,560
but that's like, that's part of what your score is.

1039
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,560
Like if you can do it with just the one or two,

1040
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:55,400
do your score.

1041
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:56,760
- Yeah, and if it's like 10 minutes

1042
00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:00,160
and it's like a 12 ball, a 12 par course

1043
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:01,840
and you have to nail, right?

1044
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,920
Oh, I gotta hit 12 swings.

1045
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:05,800
I gotta nail all of these, right?

1046
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:09,640
Or that's, yeah, I lose the puzzle

1047
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:10,960
and then I don't get my tickets.

1048
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,240
- If it's actually happening in VR and software,

1049
00:40:13,240 --> 00:40:14,680
then you can randomize it too,

1050
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,080
because it feels like if you just gave it

1051
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,400
like a static thing, then it doesn't have much replayability

1052
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,160
but if you're able to mix up the puzzles somehow.

1053
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,200
- That's true, yeah.

1054
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:27,040
Mixing up a mini golf course is probably hard.

1055
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:28,480
- Like Keep Talking and Nobody Explodes

1056
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,800
has frameworks for each puzzle,

1057
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,320
but they're randomized and kind of generated.

1058
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,840
- Okay, so you have different mechanics

1059
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:40,360
and puzzle elements that are being shifted around

1060
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,200
every time you play, or you could even,

1061
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,880
like I know a lot of games have, what's it called?

1062
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:50,280
Seeds where if you know an exact puzzle

1063
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,000
you do want to play or wanna play one together with people.

1064
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:54,320
- You can bring it back up.

1065
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,280
- I'll use that same code

1066
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,720
and then you're playing the same level

1067
00:40:58,720 --> 00:41:00,560
or you could just get a completely new one.

1068
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,960
- Let's you tap into the speed run community.

1069
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:03,800
- There it is.

1070
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,360
- If you have that kind of hardware though,

1071
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,360
where you can get that sort of haptic feedback,

1072
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:12,760
I also wanna see the free for all opposite version of this,

1073
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:14,840
where everyone's in the room at the same time

1074
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,840
and you'd be like, first one to get it in the hole wins, go.

1075
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:19,600
(laughing)

1076
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:21,960
- Yeah, the Fall Guys of--

1077
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:23,560
- Yeah. - The Fall Guy version.

1078
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:24,680
Where it's just chaos

1079
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:26,360
and you are just going as fast as you can.

1080
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:27,200
- That sounds like a blast.

1081
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,840
- Like these Tetris 99, F-Zero 99 games

1082
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:31,760
that Switch has been doing where you just have a mob.

1083
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:32,880
That's great.

1084
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,520
- Yeah, that sounds like a bonding experience.

1085
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,880
- Put it in some warehouse somewhere, yeah.

1086
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:39,400
(laughing)

1087
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:40,640
- Corporate event. - That's fun.

1088
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:42,960
- Bachelor party. - Right, team building.

1089
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,360
(laughing)

1090
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,280
- Team building, go kill everyone else.

1091
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,160
- Like what if you hide, there's one hole

1092
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,200
and everybody has to try to putt around to find it.

1093
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:53,960
Just, yeah.

1094
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:55,640
(laughing)

1095
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:57,440
- Just putting through the forest.

1096
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,040
- It's part of the putting through the forest.

1097
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:01,520
(laughing)

1098
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,240
What does that guy do?

1099
00:42:03,240 --> 00:42:04,920
There's a putt-putt course nearby,

1100
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,120
they're looking for the hole.

1101
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,400
- It's a worldwide ARG.

1102
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,680
First to find the hole on earth wins.

1103
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,920
(laughing)

1104
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:15,960
- That's how you get the price started for it.

1105
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,760
That's how you get it going, kickoff event.

1106
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:22,560
- I love the idea of a giant corporate warehouse for VR

1107
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,800
where you just get a bunch of Oculus's or something,

1108
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,480
invite groups of people there and be like,

1109
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,080
okay, this is this game that we're doing,

1110
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:31,320
that we're doing paintball today,

1111
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,080
we're doing forest putt-putt, we're doing whatever.

1112
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:35,080
- It does exist, yeah.

1113
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:36,600
There's been like, you know,

1114
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:38,880
when the last Harry Potter movie came out,

1115
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,040
come to our thing, put on your VR headsets

1116
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:42,680
and we have a special partnership

1117
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,760
where you can be in Hogwarts or whatever, yeah.

1118
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:46,880
- Whoa.

1119
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,320
- Yeah, you could have separate events like that

1120
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,200
kind of tied into it.

1121
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,400
But it's gotta be mini golf themed still.

1122
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:54,560
- That's right.

1123
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,640
- I'm not letting go of that.

1124
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:57,960
- That's great.

1125
00:42:57,960 --> 00:42:59,440
- Harry Potter mini golf?

1126
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:00,360
Maybe.

1127
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:01,560
- It's gotta be mini golf.

1128
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,040
- I might be thinking of the wrong franchise,

1129
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,480
but there was definitely some like big

1130
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,040
blockbuster AAA film that partnered

1131
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,480
and did a VR experience where they basically did that.

1132
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,720
They built like a, it's kind of a set around there,

1133
00:43:14,720 --> 00:43:16,480
but really you don't need a ton of decoration stuff

1134
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,720
'cause it's all being VR'd on top of,

1135
00:43:18,720 --> 00:43:21,560
but you can like run into a real wall, you know.

1136
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,120
- A VR latency, I think that's the name of the place.

1137
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:24,960
- I'm sure there's been several.

1138
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:26,560
- Not that we have to, we can cut this part out.

1139
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,680
It's like, there's a place in Holland, right?

1140
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:30,240
- That's a great idea, Marshall.

1141
00:43:30,240 --> 00:43:31,320
- I like it.

1142
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:32,640
- I know, I wanna see that.

1143
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:33,480
I wanna do that.

1144
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:34,560
- Me too.

1145
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:35,840
- I just don't wanna put in the work,

1146
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,040
so Spitball people, it's yours.

1147
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:39,240
- That's why we're here.

1148
00:43:39,240 --> 00:43:46,480
- Okay, Leo, what idea have you got for us today?

1149
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,000
- It's a simple one.

1150
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,280
So for those of you who don't know this,

1151
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,080
I'm sorry to bear the bad news,

1152
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,040
but your bathroom is disgusting

1153
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,720
and particles settle all over everything,

1154
00:43:56,720 --> 00:43:58,080
including your toothbrush.

1155
00:43:58,080 --> 00:43:59,880
And that's always bothered me when I found out

1156
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:01,640
how gross toothbrushes are.

1157
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,400
There are ultrasonic jewelry cleaners out there

1158
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,320
that just use regular water to vibrate and clean shit.

1159
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,440
There should be one with some sort of notch or hole,

1160
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,160
and that's where I store my toothbrush.

1161
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,720
I stick it in there at night and it just vibrates and stuff.

1162
00:44:15,720 --> 00:44:17,400
I think there's some for like UV or whatever,

1163
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,240
but it just cleans it every night.

1164
00:44:19,240 --> 00:44:22,480
And then it's sitting in there for a minute or two.

1165
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,760
I don't think you have to do it for very long.

1166
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:29,680
And you get a clean toothbrush every day, done, pitch over.

1167
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,240
I don't know how to make it waterproof, but yeah.

1168
00:44:32,240 --> 00:44:33,840
- Yeah, I like the idea.

1169
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,040
'Cause all you need is the ultrasonic,

1170
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,840
all you need is the ultrasonic vibrations

1171
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:41,400
to, I guess, to kill the germs.

1172
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:42,320
I think that's true.

1173
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:46,160
I think you can sterilize stuff ultrasonically.

1174
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:47,000
- What?

1175
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:48,920
- Wait, you're telling me that it's just water?

1176
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:50,560
- There are jewelry cleaners out there

1177
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:51,760
that you just stick water.

1178
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:53,200
Sometimes you can put a little bit of bleach

1179
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,760
or something in it or like shining agent or whatever,

1180
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:56,680
but you just stick,

1181
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:57,960
I don't know if you've seen videos out there,

1182
00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:59,720
but TikTok or whatever has them

1183
00:44:59,720 --> 00:45:01,880
where you just stick a dirty piece of like bracelet

1184
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:03,320
or jewelry or necklace.

1185
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,640
It just vibrates water and not much else

1186
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,480
and dirt falls off of it.

1187
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,880
I wanna store things that actually go in my body in there.

1188
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,120
(laughing)

1189
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:17,280
- So I have one of those jewelry cleaners.

1190
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:20,160
I have something like that for a,

1191
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,000
it's like the size of my glasses

1192
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,360
so I can clean them off every once in a while.

1193
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,520
But- - Does it work?

1194
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,520
- To have one like built in with your toothbrush,

1195
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:30,360
like a case. - Does it work

1196
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:31,520
for your glasses?

1197
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:32,880
- I have to use soap for that.

1198
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,200
I'm not sterilizing, I'm trying to get the oils off,

1199
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:36,280
but it does.

1200
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:37,200
- Sure.

1201
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:38,200
How long do you have to leave it in there

1202
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:39,080
before they're clean?

1203
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:43,200
- The one I have runs for like a preset three minutes.

1204
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,480
So that- - See, that's nothing.

1205
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:46,480
- Yeah.

1206
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:47,440
- That's nothing.

1207
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,120
I want it there for 23 hours

1208
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:49,960
until I'm ready to brush my teeth again.

1209
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:51,680
- No, I'm saying that's all you need.

1210
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:52,880
You stick your toothbrush in there

1211
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:53,880
and you run it for three minutes

1212
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,640
while you use your mouthwash and wash your face

1213
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,000
or get your pajamas on and then you're done.

1214
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,600
- Or just do your alarm in the morning

1215
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,080
'cause it's buzzing.

1216
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:06,640
- For those of you who have electric toothbrush,

1217
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:08,880
you just take the head off and stick it in there.

1218
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:10,960
You don't even have to have the notch.

1219
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,240
- I wonder if you could flush the system,

1220
00:46:13,240 --> 00:46:15,080
somehow have it hooked up to your main water line

1221
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:18,080
where it'll just auto flush and auto refill each day

1222
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:19,120
or however you want.

1223
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:19,960
- Ooh, yeah.

1224
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:21,560
- That was the case.

1225
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,080
You could put anything in there, like you said.

1226
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:24,720
I just have my cleaning box.

1227
00:46:24,720 --> 00:46:26,640
Maybe you don't wanna share your toothbrush with it

1228
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:28,880
after this if I'm putting in jewelry or other things,

1229
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:29,720
but.

1230
00:46:29,720 --> 00:46:32,720
- I think there are camping and desktop,

1231
00:46:32,720 --> 00:46:35,680
small apartment dishwashers that you can get

1232
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,480
that sit on a countertop and they hook up

1233
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,160
to your kitchen sink and you just turn on the faucet

1234
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:41,760
and the pipe goes straight into it

1235
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,240
and it's got room for a few plates and not much else.

1236
00:46:44,240 --> 00:46:45,960
But for people who are in a situation

1237
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:47,500
where they can have a full one,

1238
00:46:47,500 --> 00:46:48,420
you want kinda like that,

1239
00:46:48,420 --> 00:46:50,520
but also with a pass through on the faucet

1240
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,560
where it just sits there and you could,

1241
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:54,720
yeah, your cleaning box, exactly.

1242
00:46:54,720 --> 00:46:55,920
- That'd be dope.

1243
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,080
You could just create the toothbrush too.

1244
00:46:58,080 --> 00:46:59,320
Why not stop at the,

1245
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,520
like this is the toothbrush that's always clean, right?

1246
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:03,840
You just.

1247
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:04,680
- Whoa.

1248
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:05,500
- Yeah.

1249
00:47:05,500 --> 00:47:07,160
- It's compatible but proprietary

1250
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,080
with our special heads that we have to sell.

1251
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:11,240
- Just go all the way.

1252
00:47:11,240 --> 00:47:14,200
- I love that actually.

1253
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:16,400
It's just a toothbrush, an electric toothbrush,

1254
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,680
but it stores upside down so the bristles are facing down,

1255
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:23,040
but it's inside of some ultrasonic recharging thing.

1256
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:23,880
- Yes.

1257
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:25,400
- And then you pull it back up and it's clean

1258
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,240
and ready to go each time.

1259
00:47:27,240 --> 00:47:28,240
- Boom.

1260
00:47:28,240 --> 00:47:30,180
- If you're storing it inside something,

1261
00:47:30,180 --> 00:47:32,520
then it doesn't really even need the like everyday thing

1262
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:33,360
'cause it's not getting particles on it.

1263
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:34,600
- No, no, no, I want it extra clean.

1264
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:35,440
- I mean, I would like that.

1265
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:36,260
- Might as well.

1266
00:47:36,260 --> 00:47:38,560
- Get all the black pieces out, yeah.

1267
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:39,920
- And I like the idea of having it

1268
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:41,880
drained somewhere too afterwards.

1269
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:43,160
'Cause like after it's clean,

1270
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:44,920
you don't want it sitting around in that water

1271
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:46,560
'cause then it's just gonna get funky again.

1272
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:48,480
Now all that stuff that you blew off

1273
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:49,980
is gonna settle back down.

1274
00:47:49,980 --> 00:47:50,820
So you can drain it, let it dry.

1275
00:47:50,820 --> 00:47:53,600
- A reservoir tank that'll auto flush it each time.

1276
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:54,440
- Yeah, oh yeah.

1277
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,200
- You just fill it up once a month or whatever,

1278
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:57,540
once a week.

1279
00:47:57,540 --> 00:47:59,120
- Like a Keurig type thing.

1280
00:47:59,120 --> 00:47:59,960
- Yeah, exactly.

1281
00:47:59,960 --> 00:48:01,480
- It probably wouldn't need a lot of volume.

1282
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:02,960
- Yeah, you don't need much.

1283
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:04,120
- Every time you flush your toilet,

1284
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,520
it actually takes the water from the top tank,

1285
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:07,880
runs it through.

1286
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:09,360
Why reinvent the wheel?

1287
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:10,200
We gotta...

1288
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:14,120
- We'll just store toothbrushes in the top of our toilets.

1289
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:15,360
- I was gonna say that.

1290
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,360
The toilet tank is clean water.

1291
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,520
You just make that the ultrasonic cleaner.

1292
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:20,440
- That's it.

1293
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,680
And it has a GPU in it.

1294
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:24,920
(laughing)

1295
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:32,680
- Small risk of electric shock.

1296
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:34,040
Do not sit on that.

1297
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,640
You gotta squat, you gotta hover.

1298
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:38,560
- No metal toilet seats.

1299
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:40,320
(laughing)

1300
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:41,360
- Thank you all for listening.

1301
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:42,820
We hope you enjoyed yourself this evening.

1302
00:48:42,820 --> 00:48:44,160
And thank you very much, Marshall.

1303
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:45,000
It was a delight to have you.

1304
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:46,680
- It was wonderful to be here.

1305
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:47,880
Thanks.

1306
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,440
- Our website is Spitball.show.

1307
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:51,720
There you can find us, you know,

1308
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links to YouTube channel, social media,

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all you Google podcast refugees,

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head on over to YouTube and subscribe to us.

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Email us feedback, comments, ideas.

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If this made you think of something else,

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if we didn't know that one of the things we said

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already existed, tell us about it.

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We're podcast@Spitball.show.

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That's how you can find us on the Fediverse too,

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such as Macedon, you just follow podcast@Spitball.show.

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Our subreddit is r/spitballshow.

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Our intro/outro music is Swingers by Barker's Beat Club.

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You're listening on a podcast app,

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please, if you wouldn't mind,

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hit us with that five star review, subscribe, add,

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whatever it is that your app lets you do to this show,

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please do it.

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That's the best way for people to find out about us.

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New episode is coming out in two weeks.

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We will see you then.

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(upbeat music)

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(dramatic sound)

