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- I'm Russell.

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- I'm Scott.

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- I'm Leo.

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This is Spitball.

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Welcome to Shark Stank, the rowdy show where...

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Hold on a second.

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Oh, I'm being handed something from our lawyers here.

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Oh, we cannot use that name.

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All right, got it.

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Welcome to Spitball, the pitchin' kitchen,

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where three lovable scamps empty their heads

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of startup and tech product ideas

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and anything else stuck up in there.

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So you can all have them for free.

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Anything we say is yours to keep.

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All right, Scott, hit us with that first pitch.

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- All right, so I want an app

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where everyone can pool money together

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and then it's a carrot and stick

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where you're incentivized in order to complete a goal

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or task.

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So how it would work is say all of us put $100 in

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and we say, we're all gonna work out

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for every single day this week or something.

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And then any one of us who completes that goal

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and you're accountable to everyone else in the group,

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but everyone who completes that goal gets their money back

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plus any extra of anyone else

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who doesn't complete that goal.

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So let's say Leo doesn't work out this week

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for whatever X days,

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he forfeits that week of funds that he put into it.

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And that goes to then Russell and myself.

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- Totally.

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- So that way there's no-

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- My work does this.

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- Do they really?

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What is it?

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- Yeah, the hold it for the holidays.

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Exactly that.

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promise to lose or maintain your weight from this day to this day, everyone puts into a pot and

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if you maintain it, you get it back. Awesome. Do you share the pot of people who don't make it?

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Yeah. Oh, that's perfect then. Okay. So is there an actual app for that? Is there like a jar?

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No, there is not. We do it all on paper. Awesome.

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So we would be your first customer, man. Fantastic. So I want to just pitch this or

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market this to... How do you make money?

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That's a great question, which is what we're going to discuss today.

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Yeah. But I want to pitch this to a bunch of

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competitive like sports teams or group of high schoolers or whatever

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that are just trying to do something.

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And they just want to freaking one up their friend in some form.

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The bigger the group, the more likely somebody will not succeed.

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So the various users are incentivized to get big groups together,

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which gets you more customers.

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Exactly. Monetizing that.

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I love this great question.

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It's a combo between Fitbit like challenges where you're challenging each other

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and doing the whole step contests that they have in like a Venmo type thing.

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Yeah, you all Venmo to this.

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You ever won Venmo's 100 bucks

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into this arbitrary pot over here?

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And then it'll just sit there

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until it automatically

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cashes you out at the end

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with whatever you deserve

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based on how well you did those goals.

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like do good bets?

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Like what if it's just like bounties?

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So bounties take a picture.

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So like take a picture of Leo's left

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butt cheek

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and everybody is putting money into a pot.

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Just like, like group dares.

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You call it like bet.

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You call it bet.

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I love this.

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You know, Gen Z, they always say, "All right, bet."

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And they go out and do something stupid.

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Like, this is like YOLO, but with money.

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So it's important that we establish ourselves as cool with the Generation Z folk listening.

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It'll be the entire title will be in emojis and nothing else.

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else. Bet. Okay. So literally it like it either auto generates a dare or something that everyone

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has to do and anyone who doesn't do it forfeits their share for that one. Oh, I love it. Suggestions

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from the app. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. This week's challenge is we're gonna get arrested.

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The people who organize these, the ones who set the rules and try to gather friends and

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stuff into it, they could pay a flat fee per contest, right? So you could try to take

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a slice from everybody but seems like that everyone always gets mad when you

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try to take a slice of something like yeah for sure but if it's like you know

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$1.99 a contest and then once they get started up you have unlimited people in

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the contest and all the money does exactly what you say oh yeah you do it

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by people if you want to have 25 people it costs you got to get the premium tier

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or whatever or it's a flat fee no matter how many people that way you

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incentivize them more and more and more people that's good have some huge work

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bet going on, like what you're saying.

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Yeah, $1.99, but 200 people participated, so it's nothing, or whatever your number is

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you decide on, right?

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I love this.

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Or you can buy a...

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Maybe you only pay...

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You take a cut of the cash out, so it incentivized people to keep the money in the app and do

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Because it's like...

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Whoa, that's clever.

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You know what I mean?

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Or PayPal or Cash App or whatever.

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Or...

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It's like, all right.

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Every time you do a cash out, it's a dollar.

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But if you keep winning bets, you save up your cash outs

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and you do $1 cash out for a thousand bucks

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instead of 30 $10 ones, okay?

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Keeps the bets going.

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- Or you do affiliate deals.

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So you've got like the local Nike store

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will do a one for one, but they'll pay you

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to be one of the cash out options.

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You can get a $100 gift card for 90 bet bucks or whatever.

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- Oh, I love that.

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- Dude, the what are those challenge, all right?

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You go to random people, you take a picture

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of the worst pair of shoes and you all bet

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what are those?

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You know that meme?

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- Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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- I very much, yes.

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Russell's the chief creative officer for this.

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(laughing)

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- All he does is sit there all day

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and generate random crazy ideas for

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tweens to do. - Makes millions of people

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across the country do insane TikTok challenges.

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- God forbid they'll lose their $10 into this app

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that they put in if they don't hijack a car or something.

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- Guys, this is like quiz up, but crazier.

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Like you could have worldwide challenges.

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Like everybody votes on the craziest like bet.

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And it's like, what the heck is, you know,

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It's, what's the damn app that we use every day

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kind of at a certain time? - HQ?

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- What's it?

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- Be Real. - Oh, no, no.

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- Be Real, but with bets. - Be Real, mm-hmm.

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So at a certain time of day,

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everyone gets a notification that,

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look, you're gonna lose your money

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unless you do this thing right now.

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You have two minutes to take a picture if you're doing it.

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Good luck.

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- Or that's the game.

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It's just like we give $100 to whoever takes a photo

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of the biggest fish.

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- And so you can have-- - I love that.

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Scott's idea where you have like private friends group organized challenges amongst yourself

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and then the app itself has app sponsored worldwide challenges that you can choose to

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put yourself into also.

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So we're gonna get I love Russell's on there too where it's like hey take a picture of

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the biggest fish on here but we're just gonna get like a shit ton of pictures of generative

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AI fish like immediately afterwards of just me holding Moby Dick over the Grand Canyon

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trying to exactly trying to win the cash real quick.

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Then we're going to bunch of scripts.

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It's got to be like three second clips or something.

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It's got to be like something really hard to make it.

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AI.

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Dang, I don't know.

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Like that a lot, actually.

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Well, if we're firing up the app itself,

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we can choose so be real doesn't let you bring in pictures

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You can just force them to use the your apps camera, right?

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Yeah, that's right.

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Verified photo taken here.

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That's our exit strategy.

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Be real.

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Buy this.

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You know, we're going to sell ourselves to this already startup.

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It'll be great.

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Yes. Real.

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That real urge.

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Yeah. And then they get bought by FanDuel and they'll they'll thank us.

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And it's the be real logo.

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But there's a little T drawn in between the E and the R.

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That real. Oh, my God.

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Actually, that'd be so much fun.

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I just want to do it for fun.

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All right. If anyone ever makes this out, please, please tag us and whatever.

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first and we will win every competition.

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You might want to sit at the spitball show on Twitter or podcast

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at spitball that show on Mastodon or whatever.

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We'd love to see your your app that you make.

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You can even take the name.

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You definitely won't for sure get trademark lawsuits.

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Now, anything you hear out here, you guys can have just.

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Russell, hit us up.

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What do you got this week?

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All right.

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So brewery idea, okay, our brewery.

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I think I might have told some people this, okay?

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There is a brewery called Our Brewery in our hometown,

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but we're not gonna talk about that brewery.

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We're talking about a crew of people, brewers, okay?

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Home brewers, they come together,

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they rent out like a commercial space or whatever,

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a brewery place, and they brew their beer

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and they host it, right?

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but anybody can come in and brew their beer

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and have it on the wall, right?

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So now you have a wall of different beers

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from all these different brewers that are all local, okay?

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Like these are people that would love to start a brewery

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but don't know how to get off the ground

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or like have this dream of being a brewer, okay?

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And you don't have to go off the ground.

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At that point, like you just, and then you have,

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okay, here's the nuance, okay?

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You have that community.

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it's a self-generating marketing machine, right?

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'Cause everybody that brews beer,

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like bottling and all that stuff is painful,

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annoying, all that stuff.

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So you just say, hey, come to my brewery.

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- Oh my God, I hate dealing with all the equipment

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and everything, yeah.

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- Yeah, it's just like, you have a key.

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Like, you can just come in and just drink beer

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and it's just kind of like those open bar concepts

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or I don't know how that legality goes,

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but we'll figure that out.

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But like, you just have people come in

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and just be like, all right, I brewed a new beer,

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come try it out, it's literally all tapped, okay?

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And here's the best part, you can have a small little

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no-code app, all right, or something,

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and you can rate beers locally, right?

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So now you can kind of create a little bit of competition.

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You can say, oh, wow. - The Russell tastes amazing

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this week, but man, the Leo just sucked, you know?

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- Yeah, Leo's great at IPAs.

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- They're all on the wall. - Yeah, but this guy's great

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red ales and you know now you have. And whatever one sells a lot you can have

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the revs split between the actual bar and the person who brewed it. Yeah you get a

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commission on that going through. You're not brewing the beer. It gives you incentive to be creative try new things and find

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something cool. So you have like you're having like actual brew days where like

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hey I've got all my equipment sterilized and whatnot and anyone can come in and

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for X amount you can try to brew your own beer I've got some basic ingredients

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You can mix in whatever you want.

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Throw in Tabasco sauce or whatever.

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Something crazy.

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And oh, I love that.

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And then we'll keep it fermenting and all that stuff and come back

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on this date at this time.

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And we, we take barrels, barrels to do bottling together with everyone.

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Well, yeah, you can do that.

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It's basically like, it's kind of like a co-op space, but like, and you can have,

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you can buy a bunch of barrels and just be like, all right, we got 40 barrels.

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Right.

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And as like literally the beer, instead of being in plastic kegs or glass bottles,

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It's in barrels and they just if you want to put it in a barrel, it just wrote.

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It's not it's better than nothing.

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I guess it's kind of like, you know, we would never do this otherwise.

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But there's a community space.

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Dude, it's incentivize it.

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If you brewed the beer, you drink for free that beer on it.

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So then people are constantly coming back and then they're coming to your space

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and they're incentivized to try other people's, but they'll physically be there.

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Oh, I like that a lot.

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And there are so many you're collecting some sort of payment to be entered in.

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Right. You have to pay for the ingredients plus some commission.

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Yeah. So yeah, that's the I think you can even collaborate with your local beer

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masters that are on staff, your brew masters who like help you figure out

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recipes and stuff. Yeah, exactly.

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Yes. All these things. Everybody's winning.

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Right. Here's another win.

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There are a lot of little breweries that are just there by themselves.

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Right. They're like they're like they want to be big.

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But and they threw a bunch of money into their brewery and they're like, oh,

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maybe we'll make it, maybe we'll be as big as New Holland or Founders and they can't be, I mean,

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just because the scale, it's like a scale issue. They can never bottle 100,000 bottles, right?

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But now they don't have to. They're just like the main brewer and they just open up their space. So

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everybody, every small brewery can do this and just say, we are hosting all small brewers to

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turn this into a community brewery. And now- And it's cost effective for you too.

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Yes, yeah, you you leverage the economy

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as a scale of buying the beer bottle at cost for everybody's cost, right?

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And you don't actually have to buy the equipment you're renting it.

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You can use it.

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Someone else can use your equipment next week.

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Exactly. You don't even have to pay for like is as the like commercial

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as the renter or the building owner or whatever.

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It's like people that are brewing the beer are paying for their own ingredients.

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They're making the beer.

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They're cleaning up after themselves, probably.

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And you're kind of just making them all of this stuff.

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You sell them the sterilization.

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and you sell them the actual ingredients to go with it

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and the yeast and the grain, the barley,

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and you just have a huge stockpile of it.

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I love that.

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- And waiters are basically free.

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You could literally have waiters that get paid in tips.

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Like that's what they, I mean,

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technically you're not paying them hourly.

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Which I know, I sometimes forget about that.

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- We might have the IRS on us on that one,

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but I like where it's going though.

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- But now you're a brewery that, you know,

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and there's wait staff there.

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- They're volunteers.

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- Sure, they're volunteers.

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- Yeah.

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- Our whole staff is volunteering, it's fine.

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- These Brewmeisters.

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- They make under $600, $599 a piece.

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- For tips.

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- That's fine.

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- See, okay, another name for this app is Brewmeister.

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All right, so it's like, you're brewing beers.

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Like you download the app, you know,

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and you can travel and here's another cool idea.

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New founders or Bells, they can do like competitions.

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They wanna try a new beer,

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but they don't wanna put their name on it.

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Put it in our micro breweries.

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- Sure.

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- And see.

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- You will test it. - Pseudo brewers.

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- Right?

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Like how do you know a beer's gonna be good?

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Well you throw it into our breweries,

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you put it under a pseudonym like Ellibs, right?

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Or whatever.

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Founders or Downers or something like that.

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(laughing)

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- I love that.

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And if you took really good notes of the recipe

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as you were making it,

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like someone could come along,

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you just, you made a kick-ass beer.

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You made the new Oberon or something.

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Like someone could come in and be like,

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I will buy that beer from you right here.

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I will purchase that recipe or whatnot on that.

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- Why not?

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- And to foster the community spirit,

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you can have your app not only show

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what's on tap right now

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and the leaderboard for the week and stuff,

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but be where your recipes are.

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And you can just, that open sources all of the recipes

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that everyone else is using right now.

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So you can take their recipe and change it, tweak it,

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add your own thing to it.

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Someone else can do the same to yours.

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And it's like this competition

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where everyone knows everyone else's.

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Yeah, it's a formula car race, right?

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- See, that-- - Oh, I like that a lot.

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Everyone's on level playing field.

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- That's a great idea.

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You can have, you can pay somebody to brew your beer

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and you come up with a recipe, or you brew your beer.

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Like you actually physically in the space brew it.

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- Sure.

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- Or you have somebody do it for you.

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Like, all right, here's the hops, the barley measurements.

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And, cause there are some beer brewers that are like,

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I'm done actually sitting in front of a pot of water

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for four hours and watching the beer brew.

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I just want it, I want it to be done this way.

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And I want like, you could have one brew maker.

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I don't know how many there are in the world,

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if it's like there are a lot of them out there.

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But you can just have like somebody that wants to become

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the brewmaker for founders, start at one of our little breweries.

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Like you just brew beer for hundreds of people.

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You tell them what tastes good.

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Food scientists, right?

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Like that's their like an entryway, a gateway into it.

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Right.

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So I won the weekly leaderboard 31 times in a row, and that's why you should hire me.

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It looks good on a resume. Totally.

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Yeah. The mainstays make themselves at that point.

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Right? Because they're making money.

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Like in a way, the brewers are making money to brew their own beer.

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And if they're hot sellers, I'll just make it again and again and again.

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And oh, you can be selling them the bottles, the labels, the everything.

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Like you're in complete control at that point.

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You have so many opportunities to just keep upselling.

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I love it.

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Russell's app definitely has a little like draw or import

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your picture for your label and we'll put it on the front.

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But it has our logo in the bottom corner, right?

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Of course.

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What would Spitball beer look like?

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- What would the Spitball brew be?

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- Spitball beer, I wouldn't drink Spitball beer.

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- Yeah, that has some word construction there

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that is not the most appetizing, yeah.

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- Yeah.

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- For a drink nonetheless, yeah.

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(laughing)

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- Fortunately, that doesn't work for us.

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- There's no good variation of that, it just sounds gross.

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- Shark stank beer, however.

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- Oh, the stanky.

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- Shark stank.

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- That's a half a Wisen, that's for sure.

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- I drink shark stank over Spitball, honestly.

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- Tough choice.

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and then people are drinking it

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and they're like, that's the best damn beer.

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- Fun IPA.

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(upbeat music)

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- All right, Leo, what do you got?

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- I unfortunately have something less bro-y

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and more wholesome.

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I'm coming to you today with a product idea.

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So I think a lot, I have a one-year-old and three-year-old,

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so I think a lot about user interfaces

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and all that for kids, right?

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- As every parent does.

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- Yeah, right.

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How do I make them more independent

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so they stop needing me to look stuff up for them?

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So seven segment displays, liquid crystal displays,

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like you see on your microwave or old car radios

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where they've got the eight, right?

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Where you can make all 10 digits out of the eight.

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- Any number out of it.

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- Yeah, seven segment displays.

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That kind of LCD, you can stamp to be any shape

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or size or whatever.

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So your air fryer or your oven or whatever,

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you can, they'll order those custom

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where it has all of the features

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that can be lit up electronically.

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So we can design our own, right?

451
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So going off of that premise,

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I would like to design something

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that's about a five by seven size

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of one of those liquid crystal displays,

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where it is a stick figure of a little boy

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or a little girl, a person.

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And they have on different outfits.

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You have the stamping,

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the shape of a winter coat that can be turned on or off,

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or long pants and sweatshirt,

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or T-shirt, or swimsuit or whatever, right?

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And this is a,

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what is the weather going to be like today?

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You can have a little umbrella in their hand

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that we can turn on or off.

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And we put this down wherever they get changed

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for the morning or some spot where they can see it

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or reach it.

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And it's got just a little stick figure,

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sort of like a game and watch.

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You remember the old Nintendo things?

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Yeah, one of those, a little character

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that looks kind of like that, where it's got your,

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hey, it's gonna be really cold out today, little Jimmy.

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So here's a guy wearing a winter coat and looking chilly.

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and maybe you even have like the actual numbers

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and a sun or a cloud or whatever above him,

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but it's just a, hey, here's what you should expect today

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to make you feel a little bit more in control

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and less at the whim of whatever mom tells you

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that she looked up on her phone for the weather today, right?

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- Whoa, okay.

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- Yes.

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- End of pitch.

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We have this discussion every day.

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What's it gonna be like today?

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Because my son is very nervous about stuff.

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He likes to know what's coming.

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And we every day talk about

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what the weather's gonna be today.

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We look it up together and he can't do that on his own.

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You could have an ESP 32 or an Arduino or something behind one of these little

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displays, pulls down the weather once a morning and once in the midday.

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And then it sleeps otherwise.

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Which it knows.

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Yeah.

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I like that.

498
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Okay.

499
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Yeah.

500
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Got to make it fun Leo.

501
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We can sell the subscription.

502
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You got to, it has to be like elf on a shelf.

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It's got to have a name.

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Like it's got to be like.

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That's not fun.

506
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No kid likes elf on a shelf.

507
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Okay.

508
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What about like that?

509
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It's for the mom.

510
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Like Lil Jimmy or something.

511
00:20:03,580 --> 00:20:05,660
Like, oh, this is curious.

512
00:20:05,660 --> 00:20:07,100
George is all of our kids.

513
00:20:07,100 --> 00:20:09,060
You know, he's always walking around.

514
00:20:09,060 --> 00:20:11,380
Yeah, you could have your affiliate deals, right?

515
00:20:11,380 --> 00:20:14,740
After this product is successfully proofed, you have a different stamp

516
00:20:14,740 --> 00:20:18,180
that's got Elsa on it or whatever the heck you work with.

517
00:20:18,180 --> 00:20:18,620
Yes.

518
00:20:18,620 --> 00:20:22,180
Disney or Bluey or whatever that you have your characters version.

519
00:20:22,180 --> 00:20:27,460
But all you need to do is get the design of a character

520
00:20:27,460 --> 00:20:31,700
that's in at least every possible pose for a few different outfits

521
00:20:31,700 --> 00:20:33,640
and storm clouds above him or whatever, right?

522
00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:34,360
Yeah.

523
00:20:34,360 --> 00:20:38,100
I feel like there's so many applications to something's too, even outside of

524
00:20:38,100 --> 00:20:40,200
dressing for the weather for that day.

525
00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:43,920
Like I've heard before where like you have, I think it was you, Leo, that you

526
00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:47,700
have a light outside of your office that'll light up if it's, Hey, now it's

527
00:20:47,700 --> 00:20:50,080
not a time to disturb me because I'm in a meeting or something.

528
00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:50,320
Yep.

529
00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:51,840
You're on air, but knows.

530
00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:52,600
Yeah.

531
00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,780
I should not come in to talk to dad about whatever.

532
00:20:55,780 --> 00:20:56,120
Yeah.

533
00:20:56,120 --> 00:20:59,360
I feel like there's so many other applications that as well that you

534
00:20:59,360 --> 00:21:00,640
you could do with something like this,

535
00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,240
a little simple seven segment display or something.

536
00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:04,320
- Absolutely.

537
00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,400
- This is what's happening today in some form.

538
00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:07,880
- Yeah, and with something so simple,

539
00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:09,340
they don't take hardly any power,

540
00:21:09,340 --> 00:21:11,520
so you can wake up Wi-Fi,

541
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,000
pull down information, turn off Wi-Fi,

542
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:14,160
and they'll last months and months

543
00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,040
on some lithium ion battery.

544
00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,400
Mom's happy because it's something

545
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,400
that you can pay 99 cents a month for

546
00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:22,320
and kind of forget about,

547
00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,560
and it makes them, their kid, a little less needy.

548
00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:27,280
- Are there other things

549
00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,000
that you wanna communicate to your kid?

550
00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,520
Like today we are going to do this.

551
00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,600
We're going to go to the beach or whatever.

552
00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:35,440
- Totally.

553
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:36,620
That's exactly what we do. - Regular things.

554
00:21:36,620 --> 00:21:37,460
- We have one of those.

555
00:21:37,460 --> 00:21:38,920
- Yeah, we're going to grandma's house today

556
00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:40,360
and you have a little grandma icon up there or something.

557
00:21:40,360 --> 00:21:43,760
- Yes, we have an E Ink screen on our wall that does that.

558
00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:45,640
It's got icons for what days are school

559
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:47,080
and what days are bath days.

560
00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:48,360
- School is a great one.

561
00:21:48,360 --> 00:21:49,400
- Yeah. - Bath days.

562
00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:50,620
Oh man, yeah, these are sweet.

563
00:21:50,620 --> 00:21:51,880
- So I have that now.

564
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:53,720
So we could have that.

565
00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:55,400
If you do the seven segment display thing,

566
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:56,840
then you gotta be a little bit creative

567
00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,600
about like knowing ahead of time every possible option.

568
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:00,440
But if you go E Ink.

569
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,640
- Honestly the E Ink one is a great way.

570
00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:03,480
- Yeah.

571
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,560
- You can have so much more versatility on there.

572
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,480
And then you can literally, they wake up and be like,

573
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:08,800
"What is my day today?

574
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:09,680
Oh, it's this."

575
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,280
And they come in no anxiety.

576
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:13,480
- E Ink is perfect for that

577
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,240
because it doesn't take any power

578
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:16,280
unless it's updating, right?

579
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:20,040
So you could have it sit and be completely off

580
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:21,800
and it wake up once a day,

581
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:23,840
grabs what's going on today and shuts back off.

582
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:24,680
Totally.

583
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:25,600
- Yeah, I love that.

584
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:27,120
preset it ahead of time.

585
00:22:27,120 --> 00:22:29,600
Or like you said, even on a schedule going forward,

586
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,840
you can program all your school days at a time.

587
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:33,760
- Mine just pulls from Google Calendar.

588
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,940
I'd rather not have to build out the whole infrastructure

589
00:22:35,940 --> 00:22:40,120
of like all of the servers for what are the possible options

590
00:22:40,120 --> 00:22:42,920
for grandma's house and whatever else icons, right?

591
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,140
- It's blank canvas too.

592
00:22:45,140 --> 00:22:45,960
- Well, that's okay.

593
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:46,800
Someone else will take this idea and make it for you.

594
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:48,280
- Yeah, when you make this, it'll be great.

595
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,160
- Yeah. - Yeah.

596
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,000
- The only real cost prohibitive part

597
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:54,400
is actually spinning up.

598
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,400
If I'm going to go seven second display with little game and watch Jimmy,

599
00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:01,460
you've got to actually once you have the design, pay someone to make the stamp,

600
00:23:01,460 --> 00:23:03,460
the tool, and that's the hard part.

601
00:23:03,460 --> 00:23:06,940
You've got to have like the cutter for the factory to have.

602
00:23:06,940 --> 00:23:08,360
So that's expensive.

603
00:23:08,360 --> 00:23:12,340
But once you've built one proof, manufacturing a bunch of those things

604
00:23:12,340 --> 00:23:16,300
is really cheap or we just scrap the whole seven second display thing.

605
00:23:16,300 --> 00:23:19,140
We go eink and we just pre-programmed to have little.

606
00:23:19,140 --> 00:23:20,040
Sure.

607
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,140
I really like the eink one.

608
00:23:22,140 --> 00:23:24,100
You have so many options on there.

609
00:23:24,100 --> 00:23:25,640
Yeah, blank canvas.

610
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:26,540
Yeah.

611
00:23:26,540 --> 00:23:28,240
And then we won't need to raise our children.

612
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,940
Leo, we can just have these E Ink displays.

613
00:23:30,940 --> 00:23:33,240
To raise our children.

614
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,280
It'll tell you now is time to eat.

615
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:36,280
Now is time to brush teeth.

616
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,640
So you can get a display and then just stick a battery on the back

617
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,400
and all of it's one big soldered board.

618
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,380
You just put it in like a picture frame that you cut a mat out.

619
00:23:44,380 --> 00:23:45,740
You're good.

620
00:23:45,740 --> 00:23:46,640
Are they cheaper now?

621
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:47,240
I thought they were like.

622
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,340
When you get big, they get really expensive, but they're like 40 to 60 bucks.

623
00:23:50,340 --> 00:23:53,800
So you can make this $100 product with a subscription fee and you're good.

624
00:23:53,940 --> 00:23:57,480
Oh, can we just buy a bunch of used Kindles and rip them apart?

625
00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,840
That's exactly what the one that I have is from

626
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:04,540
a company in the Middle East somewhere buys a bunch of Kindles

627
00:24:04,540 --> 00:24:07,280
that are headed for the landfill, pops the screen off of them

628
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,720
and built a PCB to go around it.

629
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,020
That's awesome. Good for them.

630
00:24:12,020 --> 00:24:13,180
It's called Ink Plate.

631
00:24:13,180 --> 00:24:15,560
They are not a sponsor of the show, but I love them.

632
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,700
Not a sponsor yet.

633
00:24:18,700 --> 00:24:20,020
We have so many sponsors.

634
00:24:20,020 --> 00:24:22,300
We have to check the list each time to make sure they're not on.

635
00:24:22,340 --> 00:24:24,300
- Dude, I feel like children calendaring

636
00:24:24,300 --> 00:24:25,260
is like really difficult.

637
00:24:25,260 --> 00:24:26,140
Like that's a problem.

638
00:24:26,140 --> 00:24:29,300
Like when you have two, three, four kids,

639
00:24:29,300 --> 00:24:31,180
especially when they're going to school,

640
00:24:31,180 --> 00:24:34,100
got different play dates, you're just like feed them,

641
00:24:34,100 --> 00:24:36,700
nap times, you're just like, how do you manage all that?

642
00:24:36,700 --> 00:24:38,420
It just, you need a calendar.

643
00:24:38,420 --> 00:24:39,380
You need something.

644
00:24:39,380 --> 00:24:40,220
It's, yeah.

645
00:24:40,220 --> 00:24:43,900
- I've heard like, one of my coworkers has like a stoplight

646
00:24:43,900 --> 00:24:46,000
that they keep in their kid's room,

647
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:47,180
where it's just like, you know,

648
00:24:47,180 --> 00:24:48,400
red, yellow, green or whatever.

649
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,980
And it's literally like, if it's red,

650
00:24:50,980 --> 00:24:52,900
It means it is still bedtime.

651
00:24:52,900 --> 00:24:55,520
You shouldn't come out of your room yet because it's 4 a.m.

652
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:59,400
or something like you can't leave the room until it turns green

653
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:00,780
at whatever time you set it.

654
00:25:00,780 --> 00:25:03,160
And the kids like really respond to that.

655
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:04,860
They really respect the stoplight.

656
00:25:04,860 --> 00:25:06,000
I don't know if I've seen that before.

657
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,820
Is that a product that's already exists?

658
00:25:07,820 --> 00:25:09,700
We have the exact same setup. It's great.

659
00:25:09,700 --> 00:25:11,880
Yeah. Does everybody make their own version?

660
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:13,240
Hatch. Oh, OK.

661
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,000
Oh, Hatch. Oh, yeah, I have Hatch.

662
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,160
Hatch. Yeah, it's a sound machine.

663
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:17,880
Do you have one?

664
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,420
Yeah. I didn't know they had alarms and stuff for that.

665
00:25:20,500 --> 00:25:24,740
I guess it's just crazy to me how much they like live and breathe by it though

666
00:25:24,740 --> 00:25:27,240
Which means that your E Ink guy would be great for that

667
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:32,760
The hatch little sound machine guy has like an RGB that you can put timers on and that's exactly what it's for. Yep

668
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,500
Oh my gosh, I didn't know I had one of these already

669
00:25:35,500 --> 00:25:42,980
And that's the kind of public service this shows all about oh, yeah

670
00:25:42,980 --> 00:25:46,620
Product already exists that I already own boom

671
00:25:48,380 --> 00:25:51,580
You were about to pitch me on the thing that you have at home right now, dude.

672
00:25:51,580 --> 00:25:52,080
Done.

673
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,580
And it's a sound machine.

674
00:25:54,580 --> 00:25:55,580
What a great idea this would be.

675
00:25:55,580 --> 00:25:57,080
Won't someone make this?

676
00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:05,580
All right, Leo, give me a random noun, anything in the world.

677
00:26:05,580 --> 00:26:06,580
Furby.

678
00:26:06,580 --> 00:26:08,580
Okay, we're gonna add the word smart in front of it.

679
00:26:08,580 --> 00:26:11,580
Russell, what are multiple features of a smart Furby?

680
00:26:11,580 --> 00:26:13,080
Smart Furby.

681
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:17,080
Oh man, it's just, it's Furby connected to the internet, right?

682
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:20,980
So anything you ask it, it responds with an answer

683
00:26:20,980 --> 00:26:21,820
from the internet.

684
00:26:21,820 --> 00:26:23,240
It's Alexa Furby.

685
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:27,560
- So it's like the people that hook Alexa up to the fish,

686
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:28,940
the bass or whatever, and they'll be like,

687
00:26:28,940 --> 00:26:29,780
Alexa, what's the weather?

688
00:26:29,780 --> 00:26:32,660
And the fish comes out and be like, it's 47 degrees.

689
00:26:32,660 --> 00:26:35,140
- Yes, with the crazy Furby voice,

690
00:26:35,140 --> 00:26:38,100
and you gotta keep all the annoying parts of a Furby.

691
00:26:38,100 --> 00:26:41,260
- But it translates it into that crazy Furby language

692
00:26:41,260 --> 00:26:43,940
of horrible, scary gibberish.

693
00:26:43,940 --> 00:26:45,500
- That's right, and then it self-destructs.

694
00:26:45,500 --> 00:26:47,500
- It's also, it's gotta have some security.

695
00:26:47,500 --> 00:26:48,620
- 30 seconds.

696
00:26:48,620 --> 00:26:49,620
- Of course it does.

697
00:26:49,620 --> 00:26:52,660
As all Furbies should.

698
00:26:52,660 --> 00:26:54,700
- You've gotta pull it right from the OpenAI API

699
00:26:54,700 --> 00:26:56,340
so that you can befriend it,

700
00:26:56,340 --> 00:26:59,020
learn to enjoy your time with it,

701
00:26:59,020 --> 00:27:00,860
grow a relationship with it.

702
00:27:00,860 --> 00:27:01,860
- Oh God.

703
00:27:01,860 --> 00:27:03,780
- Dude, next year that's happening.

704
00:27:03,780 --> 00:27:05,540
That's like, we don't even need to put on the podcast

705
00:27:05,540 --> 00:27:09,540
'cause there's gonna be 30 Tickle Me Elmo AIs.

706
00:27:09,540 --> 00:27:10,380
- Smart Furbies.

707
00:27:10,380 --> 00:27:12,340
- Oh God.

708
00:27:12,340 --> 00:27:13,180
- Yeah.

709
00:27:13,180 --> 00:27:15,580
- Cameras in the irises on each of them,

710
00:27:15,580 --> 00:27:18,180
a facial recognition going through.

711
00:27:18,180 --> 00:27:19,620
- All right, I don't like smart Furby,

712
00:27:19,620 --> 00:27:21,020
you do not have my investment.

713
00:27:21,020 --> 00:27:22,060
(laughing)

714
00:27:22,060 --> 00:27:24,060
You talked me out of it.

715
00:27:24,060 --> 00:27:26,420
- We literally go to pitches to talk them out of this

716
00:27:26,420 --> 00:27:27,580
and how terrible idea it is

717
00:27:27,580 --> 00:27:29,060
'cause we don't want this in the world.

718
00:27:29,060 --> 00:27:29,900
- The anti-pitch.

719
00:27:29,900 --> 00:27:31,580
- Love me, I am Furby.

720
00:27:31,580 --> 00:27:33,260
- The anti-pitch.

721
00:27:33,260 --> 00:27:34,580
Hey, that's a good idea for a podcast.

722
00:27:34,580 --> 00:27:36,020
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723
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